| 00:05.50 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 00:06.58 | *** join/#oe myopiate (n=myopiate@219.70.69.162) |
| 00:14.45 | *** join/#oe wrobbie (n=rob@cm7.sigma181.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 00:19.23 | *** join/#oe idealm (n=ideal@58.33.55.138) |
| 00:37.54 | *** join/#oe bioengine (n=bferguso@68.216.133.80) |
| 00:38.03 | bioengine | Guys, I'd like to ask a few questions |
| 00:38.15 | bioengine | Basically, what does OpenEmbedded do? |
| 00:45.38 | bioengine | Hello? |
| 00:46.25 | Laibsch | bioengine: read through the answers that you already received. You asked the same question previously. |
| 00:48.16 | bioengine | I apologize |
| 00:48.39 | bioengine | I don't believe I asked what OpenEmbedded does before |
| 00:48.45 | bioengine | but I could be wrong |
| 00:52.08 | Laibsch | (23:34:23) hrw: bioengine: like you was told already: OE is buildsystem to generate linux based distributions. it does not cover hardware parts |
| 00:53.02 | bioengine | OK |
| 00:53.38 | bioengine | So you can use OpenEmbedded to create a Linux distro for an embedded device? |
| 00:53.54 | Laibsch | yes |
| 00:55.08 | *** join/#oe noclouds (n=mhfan@60.166.36.179) |
| 00:55.11 | bioengine | Does OpenEmbedded have libraries you can use in your Linux distro? |
| 00:57.14 | ggilbert | How so? |
| 00:57.57 | *** join/#oe benlau (n=benlau@benlau.rd.ust.hk) |
| 00:58.34 | bioengine | Well... |
| 00:58.42 | bioengine | I've never build a Linux distro before |
| 00:58.59 | bioengine | Is it simple for embedded devices? |
| 00:59.30 | ggilbert | Well, simple is relative :p |
| 00:59.58 | bioengine | I apologize |
| 01:00.08 | ggilbert | The openembedded stuff is fairly straight forward |
| 01:00.25 | bioengine | It's just that all of this programming stuff is new to me |
| 01:00.32 | ggilbert | But really, how complex building your distribution will be depends on what you need to do |
| 01:02.04 | ggilbert | but building a distribution for a single embedded device will be far far easier than building Redhat |
| 01:02.13 | bioengine | That's good to hear |
| 01:02.21 | bioengine | I need to build my skills |
| 01:03.07 | bioengine | What would be involved in general in building a Linux distro for an embedded device using OpenEmbedded? |
| 01:03.55 | ggilbert | well you need to decide what you need |
| 01:04.44 | ggilbert | and you need to get a kernel |
| 01:05.24 | ggilbert | and you need to write the packaging information for your custom applications |
| 01:06.07 | ggilbert | Then you'll need to start tweaking things so that the general packages in openembedded's repositories work the way you need them for your uses |
| 01:08.34 | bioengine | So the kernel I write basically is the set of system functions? |
| 01:08.44 | bioengine | Like copying from one place in memory to another? |
| 01:08.51 | bioengine | Or executing a program? |
| 01:09.13 | ggilbert | No, it's the code that makes linux work on the cpu you |
| 01:09.16 | ggilbert | have chosen |
| 01:09.26 | ggilbert | and has the drviers for the other hardware in your device |
| 01:10.15 | bioengine | So OE is a Linux distro? You just write drivers for it to interface with your hardware? |
| 01:10.27 | ggilbert | sort of |
| 01:10.38 | ggilbert | it's stuff to build a distro |
| 01:11.07 | Laibsch | bioengine: Get OE and just try it out. |
| 01:11.12 | bioengine | OK |
| 01:11.26 | Laibsch | I think it will be faster that way for you to understand what OE is and what it is not. |
| 01:11.28 | bioengine | Well, I'm installing Fedora this weekend when I should not have to help my dad |
| 01:11.52 | bioengine | He's been having me a work a LOT, seven days a week, 10 hours a day |
| 01:11.56 | Laibsch | Follow the steps on the GettingStarted page in the wiki. |
| 01:12.03 | bioengine | Hopefully, I should start to get some time off |
| 01:12.05 | bioengine | I'll do that |
| 01:12.11 | Laibsch | Ok, bye |
| 01:12.19 | bioengine | Thank you |
| 01:12.22 | Laibsch | G'nite |
| 01:12.22 | *** part/#oe bioengine (n=bferguso@68.216.133.80) |
| 01:12.24 | Laibsch | de nada |
| 01:12.39 | Laibsch | Too late, I guess ;-) |
| 01:13.01 | Laibsch | OK, now a question off my own. Maybe there is an answer in the morning. |
| 01:13.02 | Laibsch | I have fsck'ed the partition for OE, I have deleted tmp, deleted and checked out again org.openembedded.dev and bitbake. Still, I get strange errors when compiling: http://rafb.net/paste/results/dXVlRR96.html Anything broken in OE? |
| 01:20.37 | *** join/#oe bioengine (n=bferguso@68.216.133.80) |
| 01:20.52 | *** part/#oe bioengine (n=bferguso@68.216.133.80) |
| 01:29.48 | *** join/#oe Greg2 (n=greg@204.182.33.146) |
| 01:29.58 | Greg2 | hello |
| 01:36.20 | Greg2 | i've been using .oz354x to build collie and poodle images... and learning how to modify/fix and make .bb files... |
| 01:36.32 | Greg2 | but i read in yesterdays logs that RP had recently made changes in .dev to improve the poodle kernel (against 2.6.17) |
| 01:36.48 | Greg2 | so i've checked out .dev, but i'm not sure how to edit my conf for this using .dev... |
| 01:36.58 | Greg2 | would it be DISTRO= ?openzaurus-unstable? and MACHINE_KERNEL-VERSION= ?2.6? ? |
| 01:43.27 | Greg2 | i guess everyone is asleep |
| 01:43.39 | Greg2 | good night all |
| 01:47.00 | *** join/#oe Chocobo (n=swinchen@70-33-147-28.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 01:47.35 | *** part/#oe Greg2 (n=greg@204.182.33.146) |
| 01:55.40 | *** join/#oe W8TVI (n=me@166.166.10.226) |
| 02:20.42 | *** join/#oe tmbinc_ (i=XXX@e176188212.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 03:00.51 | *** join/#oe hvontres (n=henry@adsl-71-159-229-110.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:12.47 | *** join/#oe gints____ (n=gints@62.84.15.211) |
| 03:22.20 | hvontres | ~lart toaster |
| 03:35.42 | *** join/#oe aquadran_ (i=pablo@scummvm/undead/aquadran) |
| 03:35.47 | *** join/#oe NAbyss_ (n=foo@220-253-45-91.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 03:41.36 | *** join/#oe Timelord0 (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 03:50.26 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 03:51.58 | *** join/#oe do13- (n=nnnnnnnn@do13.in-dsl.de) |
| 03:53.05 | *** join/#oe EvilDevil_ (n=miau@p54A6F6AC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:11.35 | *** part/#oe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 04:12.41 | hvontres|home | ~seen RP |
| 04:13.03 | ibot | rp is currently on #gpe (6d 17h 31m 32s) #oe (6d 17h 31m 32s) #openzaurus (6d 17h 31m 32s) #handhelds.org (6d 17h 31m 32s). Has said a total of 282 messages. Is idling for 7h 1m 35s, last said: 'CoreDump|home: Ok, I'm just trying to rule out things. If altboot doesn't touch it, I'm beginning to wonder what does,,, :)'. |
| 04:18.39 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 04:31.31 | *** join/#oe mithro (n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net) |
| 05:11.47 | hvontres|home | ~seen CoreDump|afk |
| 05:12.01 | ibot | coredump|afk is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus. Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 2d 6h 25m 58s, last said: 'hrw|gone: that media-mount dialog fix broke things badly'. |
| 05:22.41 | *** join/#oe _law_ (n=law@81.223.225.146) |
| 05:26.59 | *** join/#oe magnet (n=magnet@lns-bzn-28-82-250-146-16.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 05:36.19 | *** join/#oe minipanda (n=hzhang@221.221.151.188) |
| 05:39.13 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@61.14.130.201) |
| 06:06.36 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 06:07.43 | *** join/#oe ar_ (n=ar@port-ip-213-211-250-51.reverse.mdcc-fun.de) |
| 06:08.47 | hvontres|home | ~seen lpotter |
| 06:08.54 | ibot | lpotter is currently on #oe #zaurus #openzaurus #opie #handhelds.org. Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 1d 11h 3m 25s, last said: 'pending'. |
| 06:55.49 | hrw | morning |
| 07:01.19 | hvontres|home | morning :) |
| 07:01.30 | hvontres|home | your machine acting beter yet? |
| 07:03.55 | hrw | no |
| 07:04.02 | hvontres|home | going to bed now.. |
| 07:10.36 | hrw | cu |
| 07:14.10 | *** join/#oe theturtle (n=theturtl@guiness.lifl.fr) |
| 07:41.15 | hrw|work | re |
| 07:43.43 | *** join/#oe do13_ (i=do13@antilope.in-berlin.de) |
| 07:43.49 | do13_ | morning |
| 07:44.40 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 07:45.16 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 07:45.53 | *** join/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 07:47.04 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-055-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:53.00 | *** join/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 07:53.39 | do13_ | hrw|work: wb |
| 07:54.00 | do13_ | hrw|work: probs with internet connection? |
| 08:00.24 | hrw|work | do13_: yep |
| 08:00.33 | hrw|work | this company network equipment suxx |
| 08:00.49 | hrw|work | avoid cheap !linux linksys routers |
| 08:04.38 | *** join/#oe Cwiiis (n=cwiiis@host86-134-79-97.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:12.28 | mithro | FSCK!!! |
| 08:12.41 | mithro | i can't remeber the root password for one of my machines |
| 08:13.36 | NAbyss_ | Bootup in singleuser? |
| 08:13.56 | mithro | bit hard when the machine is in the US and I'm here in Australia |
| 08:14.06 | NAbyss_ | Ah, smeg.. |
| 08:14.37 | mithro | yeah |
| 08:15.02 | mithro | it's because I changed it very recently |
| 08:15.45 | *** join/#oe pH5 (n=ph5@p548661D1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:18.53 | mithro | ahh ha! |
| 08:18.55 | mithro | figured it out |
| 08:28.55 | *** join/#oe zecke (n=ich@145.253.107.2) |
| 08:43.59 | XorA | morning |
| 08:44.09 | *** join/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 08:44.10 | hrw|work | hi xora |
| 08:45.23 | RP | morning all |
| 08:45.27 | XorA | hey RP |
| 08:45.43 | XorA | tis a sad day here today, company I started working for 5 years ago is no more |
| 08:46.39 | do13_ | hey Richard |
| 08:54.39 | *** join/#oe jipi (n=jipi@cm8.sigma146.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 08:58.11 | XorA | ~lart monotone.vanille |
| 09:00.03 | Laibsch | I have fsck'ed the partition for OE, I have deleted tmp, deleted and checked out again org.openembedded.dev and bitbake. Still, I get strange errors when compiling: http://rafb.net/paste/results/dXVlRR96.html Anything broken in OE? |
| 09:01.57 | XorA | Laibsch: working here, if its not your disk I would start suspecting your RAM |
| 09:02.17 | zecke | Laibsch: well, ewi is done |
| 09:02.27 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.28 | zecke | Laibsch: disable the tinderclient for now... |
| 09:10.24 | Laibsch | XorA: That would be strange. I have the same effect on the computer hosting the files and on my laptop who accesses the files via NFS. Would be hard to imagine that both have at the same time developped bad RAM. But you were right (I think it was you) about the partition being unclean (whatever the reason was). |
| 09:10.45 | Laibsch | zecke, hrw|work: OK, I'll try without tinderclient. |
| 09:15.33 | *** join/#oe __law__ (n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at) |
| 09:18.04 | XorA | Laibsch: I lose my OE partition every couple of months or so just due to the massive traffic, so Im used to seeing the wierd compile errors :-) |
| 09:20.41 | Laibsch | OK, seems like tinderclient was the culprit. For whatever reason. |
| 09:21.06 | hrw|work | we have to wait until ewi will get ON again |
| 09:24.04 | Laibsch | Oh, I thought that "ewi is done" meant that the problems had been taken care of. I guess it should read "down" ;-) |
| 09:24.47 | XorA | or "done in" as in murdered :-) |
| 09:33.23 | *** join/#oe woglinde (n=heinold@leningrad.mi.fu-berlin.de) |
| 09:33.25 | woglinde | hi |
| 09:33.55 | woglinde | has anyone a link for arm assembler site |
| 09:34.33 | NAbyss_ | woglinde: Have a look on intel's site if you're targeting xscale.. there's the pxa270/255 developers docs.. |
| 09:35.21 | woglinde | hm okay |
| 09:37.51 | zecke | woglinde: do you want my ARM ARM? |
| 09:38.36 | woglinde | no |
| 09:38.46 | woglinde | want something test woth qemu |
| 09:38.50 | woglinde | with |
| 09:41.55 | zecke | woglinde: so you want my ARM ARM? |
| 09:42.24 | woglinde | pff |
| 09:42.27 | woglinde | I want now |
| 09:42.33 | woglinde | and you are not araound |
| 09:42.42 | woglinde | hm arm offers nice jobs |
| 09:45.55 | zecke | hehe |
| 09:48.33 | woglinde | okay now flashing the n770 |
| 09:51.42 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dhcp4.informatik.uni-duisburg.de) |
| 09:53.16 | hrw|work | gotI got WebDAV calendar working ;) |
| 09:57.13 | lardman|work | morning |
| 09:59.11 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 09:59.15 | woglinde | hrw how? |
| 09:59.53 | hrw|work | woglinde: phpicalendar |
| 10:01.11 | woglinde | php hm |
| 10:10.50 | woglinde | http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DUI0068B_ADS1_2_Assembler.pdf |
| 10:11.01 | hrw|work | ~curse kdepim devel team |
| 10:11.04 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, kdepim devel team ! |
| 10:11.31 | woglinde | hrw lol |
| 10:11.47 | woglinde | hm |
| 10:11.57 | hrw|work | adding new event in korganizer = 95% cpu time and gui frozen for ~minute |
| 10:11.58 | woglinde | how to teach ibot url? |
| 10:12.18 | hrw|work | woglinde: ibot: something is description |
| 10:12.25 | hrw|work | ~armarm |
| 10:12.27 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, armarm is at http://www.altera.com/literature/third-party/ddi0100e_arm_arm.pdf |
| 10:13.03 | woglinde | ibot armasm http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DUI0068B_ADS1_2_Assembler.pdf |
| 10:13.20 | woglinde | ~armasm |
| 10:13.21 | ibot | armasm reads like poetry |
| 10:13.30 | woglinde | hm |
| 10:15.25 | hrw|work | ~lart kopete too |
| 10:18.25 | *** join/#oe luke-jr_ (n=luke-jr@user-0c93tin.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 10:18.26 | CIA-13 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd1244ab0... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer-1.0pre7+cvs20060519/ (8 files): packages/mplayer/mplayer-1.0pre7+cvs20060519/* : dropping patches ready to move them to more generic locale. |
| 10:18.31 | CIA-13 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf44ffed4... 10/packages/mplayer/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:18.31 | CIA-13 | mplayer_1.0pre8.bb : new version, moved patches to generic files directory |
| 10:18.31 | CIA-13 | as they apply to multiple versions. |
| 10:20.00 | RP | It appears the RTC is working over reboots on the PXA Zaurii btw. You need to use hwclock to save the time and that won't run whilst atd is running though |
| 10:23.49 | woglinde | ~lart nokia |
| 10:23.57 | woglinde | ibot snack |
| 10:23.59 | ibot | ACTION snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P |
| 10:28.54 | mickey|thesis | RP: that's extraordinarily good news |
| 10:28.55 | mickey|thesis | morning, btw. |
| 10:29.15 | hrw|work | hi mickey|thesis |
| 10:29.44 | woglinde | he mickeyl |
| 10:29.51 | do13_ | hey mickey|thesis |
| 10:30.09 | *** join/#oe Laibsc1 (n=Laibsch@V14ae.v.pppool.de) |
| 10:30.18 | woglinde | why the heck nokia cant include vpn stuff in the n770 |
| 10:33.44 | RP | morning mickey|thesis |
| 10:34.08 | *** join/#oe ade|desk (n=ADAVEY@194.200.143.249) |
| 10:34.47 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 10:39.54 | XorA | conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf needs a merge, I cant do it |
| 10:40.58 | CIA-13 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb624a20e... 10/conf/machine/include/smartphone-common.conf: smartphone-common.conf: Add some missing modules necessary for fat/vfat. |
| 10:41.02 | CIA-13 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r94c5581f... 10/conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf: htcuniversal.conf: Add some modules, autoload wireless LAN driver. |
| 10:41.06 | CIA-13 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0e9d72f5... 10/packages/tinymail/tinymail_svn.bb: tinymail: Configure for minimal dependencies. |
| 10:41.10 | CIA-13 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r0638b16e... 10/packages/mplayer/ (mplayer_1.0pre7+cvs20060519.bb mplayer_svn.bb): mplayer_svn.bb : new svn build of mplayer |
| 10:43.21 | woglinde | xora why? |
| 10:44.46 | XorA | woglinde: because Im the wrong side of an ADSL line, lack devent merge tool, and have no idea which is the correct rev anyway |
| 10:45.17 | XorA | and viewmtn is b0rked and not helpful |
| 10:49.15 | mickey|thesis | hold on |
| 10:52.45 | mickey|thesis | automerged with --lca |
| 10:52.49 | mickey|thesis | pushing... |
| 10:53.01 | XorA | mickey|thesis: cheers, sorry, disturbed you from writing |
| 10:53.05 | mickey|thesis | np |
| 10:53.42 | mickey|thesis | when normal merge doesn't work, always take a shot with merge --lca |
| 10:54.04 | hrw|work | my 'mtpull' alias use --lca always |
| 10:55.34 | hrw|work | hmm.. checked.. it is not --lca... my setup.sh use lca - sory |
| 11:06.26 | XorA | I totally forgot about --lca |
| 11:11.43 | *** join/#oe woglinde (n=heinold@leningrad.mi.fu-berlin.de) |
| 11:13.35 | *** join/#oe jipi (n=jipi@cm213.delta243.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 11:18.09 | woglinde | ~kerneldoc |
| 11:23.14 | lardman|work | Looks like there's still a split head (is that what it's called) in .dev |
| 11:23.39 | hrw|work | so called hydra? |
| 11:23.54 | XorA | lardman|work: doesnt seem split here |
| 11:23.55 | lardman|work | I'm trying not to look at it ;) |
| 11:24.09 | lardman|work | XorA: Hmm, I'll try pulling again |
| 11:24.27 | XorA | lardman|work: wasnt it medusa you dont look at, hydra you dont cut the heads off as more grow |
| 11:24.53 | lardman|work | Ah, my Greek(?!) mythology gone astray again |
| 11:25.06 | hrw|work | XorA: I known some of such medusa girls... |
| 11:25.27 | lardman|work | monotone.openembedded.org still has issues |
| 11:25.28 | XorA | hrw|work: we call them Neds or Chavs :-) |
| 11:26.48 | lardman|work | CIA says org.or.dev, is this different to org.openembedded.dev? |
| 11:26.53 | hrw|work | 69 revs to go ;P |
| 11:26.57 | hrw|work | lardman|work: its same |
| 11:27.07 | mickey|thesis | just a shortcut to not pollute the message |
| 11:27.19 | lardman|work | That's what I was thinking, had to check though |
| 11:28.08 | lardman|work | I guess monotone.openembedded.org is not the main repo? |
| 11:28.31 | hrw|work | we are switching to it |
| 11:28.47 | lardman|work | It has heads still, how often is it updated? |
| 11:29.35 | hrw|work | viewmtn show one head but its lagged a bit probably |
| 11:30.47 | lardman|work | May be me being stupid of course |
| 11:43.11 | *** join/#oe shiyee (n=Shiyee@0x535d64c1.abnxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 11:44.10 | *** join/#oe stevenh (n=lews@65.167.23.2) |
| 11:45.11 | *** join/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 11:46.00 | hrw|work | merging.. |
| 11:46.43 | hrw|work | merged - will push |
| 11:46.46 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 11:47.03 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 11:47.41 | hrw|work | pushed |
| 11:49.07 | CoreDump|home | uploading images sucks :\ |
| 11:51.00 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: *A*DSL? |
| 11:51.09 | do13_ | hi CoreDump|home |
| 11:51.16 | CoreDump|home | yeah, and BOY do I hate the "A" |
| 11:51.19 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 11:51.53 | CoreDump|home | ~25Mb to go of 314Mb, and that is only akita *sigh* |
| 11:51.55 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, CoreDump|home |
| 11:52.43 | do13_ | CoreDump|home: T-DSL? |
| 11:52.51 | CoreDump|home | do13: actually netcologne |
| 11:53.32 | CoreDump|home | for e few euros you can upgrade your uplink to Default+128Kbit (lol!).... |
| 11:53.56 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: what connection params you have now? |
| 11:54.12 | CoreDump|home | 2Mbit down, 256 (IIRC) kbit up |
| 11:54.30 | CoreDump|home | about 20kb/sec |
| 11:54.41 | hrw|work | I have 1536/170 at home |
| 11:54.49 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: :\ |
| 11:55.43 | CoreDump|home | btw, nice pdax bashing there heh |
| 11:56.30 | Skyhusker | morning |
| 11:56.40 | CoreDump|home | morning Skyhusker |
| 11:56.51 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: 2048/256 costs 17 pln (~4eur) more |
| 11:56.55 | hrw|work | hi Skyhusker |
| 11:57.06 | Skyhusker | hey hrw|work |
| 11:57.08 | Gerrath | I've noticed when I "ls -l" all my files are the same size, is this a busybox issue? |
| 11:58.26 | CoreDump|home | Gerrath: nope, while BB can be annyoing as hell, this one is new to me ;) |
| 11:59.05 | Gerrath | I can read and write to my file system (NOR) but all files look the same size :-) |
| 11:59.18 | Gerrath | jffs2 |
| 11:59.22 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 11:59.38 | zecke | woglinde: what kind of math classes do we need to take? |
| 12:02.00 | Skyhusker | hey zecke |
| 12:02.27 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 12:02.51 | zecke | woglinde: do the assignments (Ue) count as regular SWS? |
| 12:02.56 | *** join/#oe wrobbie (n=rob@cm7.sigma181.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 12:17.54 | woglinde | zecke 4+2 |
| 12:17.59 | Gerrath | I think the files are showing up as the max size: 16TB, I wish I had that much flash space :-p |
| 12:19.01 | woglinde | zecke mrs fehr announced the the new kvv, we should imedialtly sign up to get our lessons |
| 12:20.47 | *** join/#oe koen (n=koen@72.22.143.163) |
| 12:21.07 | woglinde | he koen |
| 12:21.47 | zecke | woglinde: so I need 6 SWS of math an 4+2 is doing that job? |
| 12:22.01 | zecke | woglinde: which math class do you take? I won't to get rid of this ASAP |
| 12:22.31 | woglinde | zecke right |
| 12:22.35 | woglinde | zecke see msf |
| 12:22.39 | woglinde | aeh msg |
| 12:23.07 | woglinde | args |
| 12:23.10 | woglinde | should register |
| 12:23.11 | woglinde | mnomo |
| 12:23.12 | zecke | woglinde: ;) |
| 12:24.05 | woglinde | damnit |
| 12:24.22 | woglinde | operation systems is at 8 a.m. |
| 12:24.25 | woglinde | math too |
| 12:26.59 | Gerrath | good morning cbrake :) |
| 12:27.14 | cbrake | morning! |
| 12:28.58 | *** join/#oe Greg2 (n=greg@204.182.33.175) |
| 12:29.12 | Greg2 | good morning |
| 12:29.45 | hrw|work | hi Cliff, Greg2 |
| 12:30.12 | Greg2 | hrw|work: hi |
| 12:30.20 | woglinde | zecke!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 12:31.25 | *** join/#oe LordVan (n=lordvan@i-83-67-126-41.freedom2surf.net) |
| 12:31.54 | zecke | 1? |
| 12:34.35 | Greg2 | i asked this last night... but noone was here, so i'll try again today |
| 12:34.38 | Greg2 | i've using .oz354x to build collie and poodle images... and learning how to modify/fix and make .bb files... |
| 12:34.47 | Greg2 | but i read in the logs that RP had recently made changes in .dev to improve the poodle kernel (against 2.6.17) |
| 12:34.55 | Greg2 | would it be DISTRO=?openzaurus-unstable? and MACHINE_KERNEL-VERSION=?2.6? |
| 12:36.26 | *** join/#oe cb__ (n=cbrake@cpe-65-25-51-117.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 12:37.31 | Greg2 | i've checked out .dev and i'm not sure how to set my conf ? |
| 12:39.25 | hrw|work | Greg2: I would copy 2.6.17 kernel into .oz354x tree |
| 12:41.01 | woglinde | bye all |
| 12:43.52 | Greg2 | hrw|work: would that be the .dev/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus--2.6.17 ? |
| 12:43.54 | Greg2 | hrw|work: the whole directory or find the bb |
| 12:44.12 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@221.221.18.94) |
| 12:44.19 | do13_ | Greg2: directory + bb |
| 12:44.44 | Greg2 | do13: ok |
| 12:46.25 | Greg2 | do13: any thing else i have to do to aim it at that bb |
| 12:47.50 | hrw|work | nothing more |
| 12:48.41 | Greg2 | hrw|work : thanks |
| 12:48.56 | Greg2 | do13 : thanks |
| 12:55.37 | *** join/#oe benlau (n=benlau@221.125.13.148) |
| 12:57.41 | *** join/#oe splAt1 (n=splat1@cpc2-leic7-0-0-cust281.leic.cable.ntl.com) |
| 12:59.09 | hrw|work | RP, cbrake: what do you think about having pxaregs, devmem2 in OE? they are quite often quoted on lakml and are easy to build |
| 12:59.50 | do13_ | hrw|work: isn't devmem2 in oe? |
| 13:00.06 | hrw|work | ops. devmem2 is in |
| 13:00.19 | hrw|work | never needed it so did not noticed |
| 13:01.32 | do13_ | hrw|work: I think pxaregs is usefull too |
| 13:03.58 | pH5 | do13_: there is a pxaregs? where to find it? I always use devmem2 + pxa-regs.h |
| 13:04.14 | hrw|work | http://www.mn-logistik.de/unsupported/pxa250/ |
| 13:04.56 | do13_ | or http://www.holgerschurig.de/pxatools.html |
| 13:05.49 | pH5 | hrw|work, do13_: cool, thanks |
| 13:06.21 | do13_ | hrw|work: do you have a bb-file? |
| 13:07.01 | hrw|work | do13_: not here |
| 13:07.09 | do13_ | hrw|work: Hmm I lost my file somewhere on my disk |
| 13:07.23 | hrw|work | schurig probably has one too |
| 13:10.47 | *** join/#oe LordVan (n=lordvan@i-83-67-126-41.freedom2surf.net) |
| 13:11.28 | *** join/#oe Kristoffer (n=ken@213-67-126-82-no75.business.telia.com) |
| 13:11.35 | Kristoffer | Hey all |
| 13:14.07 | hrw|work | do13_: I will look at home (should have recipe there) |
| 13:14.10 | hrw|work | hi Kristoffer |
| 13:14.14 | *** join/#oe stevenh (n=lews@65.167.23.2) |
| 13:15.15 | Greg2 | for my personal testing... how/where does OE/bitbake handle the cache errata check or fix for pxa250 with 2.6 ? |
| 13:15.28 | hrw|work | Greg2: thats kernel work not OE |
| 13:16.44 | __law__ | current tightvnc doesnt build.. cant find Xaw headers but they are avaiable add staging/arm-linux/include/X11/Xaw http://pastebin.com/723244 |
| 13:17.19 | do13_ | hrw|work: thx |
| 13:18.40 | Greg2 | hrw|work: but the bitbake bb builds the kernel ? |
| 13:19.07 | zecke | Greg2: and bitbake uses a .config for the kernel |
| 13:19.36 | mickey|thesis | we just build both kernels for poodle. i guess there is a runtime check sitting somewhere in the hh.org kernel, but iirc that wasn't submitted to mainline |
| 13:19.52 | mickey|thesis | i'd like to see that |
| 13:20.21 | hrw|work | __law__: it find headers but do not find library |
| 13:20.56 | Greg2 | mickey|thesis: hi |
| 13:21.11 | mickey|thesis | hi |
| 13:21.51 | hrw|work | __law__: check do you have libXaw in staging |
| 13:24.44 | *** join/#oe woglinde (n=heinold@peter.mi.fu-berlin.de) |
| 13:24.49 | __law__ | hrw|work, there are libXaw files in staging/arm-linux/lib |
| 13:25.06 | hrw|work | __law__: libXaw or libXaw{6,7,8}? |
| 13:25.44 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:27.55 | __law__ | hrw|work, ok there is no libXaw, should be linked in .bb file or? |
| 13:28.12 | XorA | __law__: thats my recipe, I just hacked it together so maybe I missed a dep or two |
| 13:28.26 | *** join/#oe W8TVI (n=me@166.165.153.136) |
| 13:29.03 | Greg2 | zecke: well then could you tell me how its done in the config |
| 13:29.07 | Greg2 | it 'used' to be #CONFIG_XSCALE_CACHE_ERRATA is not set |
| 13:29.13 | Greg2 | but that is not there with 2.6.17 |
| 13:29.59 | zecke | Greg2: well, then find out why it is gone? |
| 13:30.03 | *** join/#oe eumel (n=chatzill@p548208A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:30.04 | hrw|work | Greg2: that setting was in 2.4 not it 2.6 |
| 13:30.21 | zecke | Greg2: all BitBake/OE does is make oldconfig |
| 13:31.06 | *** join/#oe idealm (n=ideal@58.33.55.138) |
| 13:31.12 | *** join/#oe france (n=france@pool-151-203-3-175.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:32.42 | *** join/#oe polyonymous (i=hacker@pD9539526.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:33.08 | woglinde | hi polynomous |
| 13:34.25 | polyonymous | hey |
| 13:34.25 | XorA | __law__: BTW tightvnc needs non diet libX11 |
| 13:34.41 | polyonymous | speaking of X11, is there xload in OE somewhere |
| 13:34.43 | XorA | __law__: change vnc/tightvnc/Makefile to -lXaw7 |
| 13:35.40 | *** join/#oe |fiam| (n=tcpdevil@80-103-33-97.mad1.dialup.uni2.es) |
| 13:42.42 | *** join/#oe likewise (n=chatzill@82-171-189-134.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 13:44.14 | hrw|work | RP: git2 fails on Z :( |
| 13:44.17 | __law__ | XorA, /home/law/devel/oe/build/husky_gpe_005/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libXaw7.so: undefined reference to `XCreateIC' |
| 13:44.29 | __law__ | XorA, diet libX11 problem? |
| 13:45.28 | __law__ | pastebin is sooo slow today... |
| 13:49.35 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 13:52.08 | CoreDump|home | ~curse ADSL |
| 13:52.10 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, ADSL ! |
| 13:52.29 | CoreDump|home | still 25Mb to go grrrrrrrrr |
| 13:53.05 | Greg2 | CoreDump|home: hi |
| 13:53.12 | CoreDump|home | hi Greg2 |
| 13:57.15 | *** join/#oe frank7d (n=afs@91.2.3.213.fix.bluewin.ch) |
| 13:57.16 | ade|desk | XCreateIC should be stub'd in dietx11 |
| 13:58.14 | *** join/#oe CosmicPenguin (n=nobody@svl-ext-proxy01.amd.com) |
| 13:58.25 | woglinde | hi coredump |
| 13:58.41 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:00.03 | ade|desk | +XIC |
| 14:00.04 | ade|desk | +XCreateIC ( XIM im, ...) |
| 14:00.04 | ade|desk | +{ |
| 14:00.04 | ade|desk | + return NULL; |
| 14:00.04 | ade|desk | +} |
| 14:00.04 | ade|desk | + |
| 14:00.06 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.37 | *** join/#oe pH5 (n=ph5@p54866365.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:01.45 | __law__ | ade|desk, so it should work? |
| 14:02.18 | ade|desk | it should if your dietX11 has X18NCMSstubs in |
| 14:03.53 | ade|desk | ah maybe not |
| 14:04.15 | ade|desk | which dietX11 are you using ? |
| 14:04.42 | __law__ | diet-x11-X11R7.1-1.0.1-r0 |
| 14:04.49 | ade|desk | it looks like the xim.patch is not added to the current stuff |
| 14:05.38 | __law__ | so this could be the problem.. |
| 14:06.30 | ade|desk | mv libx11/xim.patch to diet-x11/xim.patch and then add it to the patch list in the bb |
| 14:06.48 | ade|desk | or perhaps cp rather than mv ;) |
| 14:06.55 | __law__ | ade|desk, ok i?ll try this |
| 14:07.54 | __law__ | XorA, could you add a symlink from libXaw7 to libXaw in the bb file. so the first error doesnt appear |
| 14:07.54 | ade|desk | you then get the stubs files and then this patch will add the extra stubs needed |
| 14:08.08 | Greg2 | bbl |
| 14:08.43 | ade|desk | we should really merge xim.patch into X18NCMSstubs.diff |
| 14:09.35 | ade|desk | the extra stubs allow you to use rdesktop as well as tightvnc |
| 14:10.21 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-031-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:14.30 | XorA | __law__: mt pull :-) |
| 14:15.07 | CIA-13 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r794196dd... 10/packages/vnc/tightvnc/Makefile: packages/vnc/tightvnc/Makefile : change -lXaw to -lXaw7 |
| 14:18.05 | __law__ | XorA, thanks |
| 14:19.03 | *** join/#oe hvontres|work (n=hvontres@63.92.216.147) |
| 14:19.36 | hvontres|work | ~seen RP |
| 14:19.49 | ibot | rp is currently on #gpe (7d 3h 38m 18s) #oe (7d 3h 38m 18s) #openzaurus (7d 3h 38m 18s) #handhelds.org (7d 3h 38m 18s). Has said a total of 288 messages. Is idling for 3h 7m 50s, last said: 'lardman|work: I know what you mean...'. |
| 14:21.57 | hvontres|work | hrw|work: Any news from the Resetmonkey? |
| 14:23.51 | hrw|work | hvontres|work: I'm not ewi admin |
| 14:24.11 | *** join/#oe ar_ (n=ar@port-ip-213-211-250-51.reverse.mdcc-fun.de) |
| 14:24.45 | hvontres|work | ewi still seems to be down today :( |
| 14:25.36 | CoreDump|home | sigh 9830 mhentges 15 0 1542m 1.2g 5036 S 0 63.0 30:20.27 pan |
| 14:26.14 | CIA-13 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * r5ad04161... 10/site/mipsel-linux-uclibc: site/mipsel-linux-uclibc: set default value for rp-pppoe |
| 14:26.18 | CIA-13 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * r7126e8db... 10/packages/asterisk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:26.19 | CIA-13 | Asterisk 1.2.9.1: add patches to compile against uclibc |
| 14:26.19 | CIA-13 | - add patch to disable getloadavg calls, because this isn't available in uclibc |
| 14:26.19 | CIA-13 | - also disable res_ninit and friends |
| 14:30.39 | *** join/#oe hvontres|work (n=hvontres@63.92.216.147) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.39 | *** join/#oe frank7d|work (n=afs@91.2.3.213.fix.bluewin.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.39 | *** join/#oe W8TVI (n=me@166.165.153.136) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.39 | *** join/#oe stevenh (n=lews@65.167.23.2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.39 | *** join/#oe theturtle (n=theturtl@guiness.lifl.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe do13 (n=nnnnnnnn@do13.in-dsl.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe gints____ (n=gints@62.84.15.211) |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe tmbinc (i=XXX@e176188212.adsl.alicedsl.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe XorA (n=dp@81-179-72-76.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe a-atwood (n=xf009976@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe flatronf701C (n=flatronf@202.75.186.154) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe mickey|thesis (n=nLPA@gandalf.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe aoe (n=aoe@tigerente.htu.tuwien.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:30.40 | *** join/#oe [cc]smart (n=[cc]smar@gw.ptr-62-65-142-223.customer.ch.netstream.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:32.49 | __law__ | ade|desk, if i add xim.patch X18NCMSstubs.diff doesnt apply :-( |
| 14:35.36 | ade|desk | X18NCMSstubs.diff must be applied first else xim.patch can't patch a file that doesn't exist |
| 14:38.45 | ade|desk | xim.patch might need a little massage as it was diff'ed to 6.2.1 |
| 14:38.59 | ade|desk | but it should still work fine |
| 14:41.46 | hvontres|work | CoreDump|home: Have you tried out RP's 6.2.17 Kernel on poodle yet? |
| 14:41.54 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|work: nope |
| 14:42.46 | hvontres|work | CoreDump|home: Ok. Are you still building out of the oz354x branch? |
| 14:42.51 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 14:43.35 | CoreDump|home | anything interesting in .17? |
| 14:43.49 | hvontres|work | I tried .dev last night, but it wanted to build a 2.4 kernel :( Need to figure out which configs to change |
| 14:44.49 | hvontres|work | Don't know what all he fixed in .17. I am trying to get my build setup to give me a working bootstrap image first. |
| 14:44.57 | ade|desk | wow 6.2.17 .. i must have been in a comma |
| 14:45.49 | CoreDump|home | ade|desk: ;) |
| 14:45.50 | hvontres|work | ade|desk: :) meant 2.6.17 |
| 14:46.26 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|work: check openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf, the variable to set kernel 2.6 is in there |
| 14:47.19 | hvontres|work | CoreDump|work: exept that the .dev branch does not seem to have a openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf file... |
| 14:47.52 | CoreDump|home | well read the one from .oz and set that var in your local.conf or openzaurus.conf |
| 14:48.00 | CoreDump|home | openzaurus-unstable.conf even |
| 14:48.43 | hvontres|work | Ok, I might give that a try tonight. Still getting used to mucking with OE..:) |
| 14:48.48 | __law__ | ade|desk, now it builds fine.. but tightvnc...XUnsetICFocus,XGetIMValues.. |
| 14:51.03 | __law__ | http://pastebin.com/723424 |
| 14:53.57 | ade|desk | hmm ok looks like more xim stuff is needed to be stub' |
| 14:54.50 | ade|desk | was Xaw7 linked with the new X11 ? |
| 14:57.12 | __law__ | ade|desk, should i rebuild Xaw? |
| 15:00.43 | __law__ | rebuild libXaw and tightvnc but i got the same problem |
| 15:05.17 | *** join/#oe TheCan (n=thecan@dslb-084-056-202-150.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:08.07 | ade|desk | sod |
| 15:10.01 | ade|desk | __law__: i could add extra stubs but not until friday as i am a fair way away from a good machine to test with for a while |
| 15:10.39 | ade|desk | i am currently baby sitting a new member of staff at a different office |
| 15:11.45 | __law__ | ade|desk, or i simple build libx11 ? |
| 15:13.17 | XorA | __law__: or do the stubs yourself and help ade|desk :-) |
| 15:13.35 | CoreDump|home | ~curse the god damn qpe/x11 SDL silliness |
| 15:13.37 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, the god damn qpe/x11 SDL silliness ! |
| 15:14.12 | ade|desk | libx11 is massive vs diet-x11 __law__ , your choice |
| 15:20.33 | *** join/#oe Cwiiis (n=cwiiis@host86-134-40-172.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:23.28 | *** join/#oe katossi_ (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-014-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:24.49 | *** join/#oe _gints___ (n=gints@62.84.15.211) |
| 15:25.04 | ade|desk | __law__: i've just downloaded the latest libX11 and the functions look simple to stub, hopefully the app can cope with a failing return nicely and revert to not caring about I18N |
| 15:29.55 | *** join/#oe _fiam_ (n=tcpdevil@80-103-0-134.bil1.dialup.uni2.es) |
| 15:35.19 | hrw|work | re mickeyl |
| 15:35.20 | *** part/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 15:35.25 | *** join/#oe hrw|work (n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl) |
| 15:35.35 | hrw|work | ops |
| 15:35.54 | mickeyl | thanx |
| 15:48.05 | hrw|work | looks like ewi was shutted down rather then reset |
| 15:53.08 | mickeyl | any toolchain expert around? |
| 15:53.15 | mickeyl | i found the glibc 2.4 not available problem |
| 15:53.18 | mickeyl | -DEPENDS="autoconf-native automake-native libtool-native gnu-config-native ipkg-utils-native file-native patcher-native virtual/arm-linux-gcc-initial linux-libc-headers" |
| 15:53.18 | mickeyl | +DEPENDS="autoconf-native automake-native libtool-native gnu-config-native ipkg-utils-native file-native patcher-native virtual/arm-linux-gcc linux-libc-headers" |
| 15:53.32 | mickeyl | glibc 2.4 deoends on arm-linux-gcc as opposed to arm-linux-gcc-initial |
| 15:55.00 | *** join/#oe ken (n=ken@213-67-126-82-no75.business.telia.com) |
| 15:56.40 | mickeyl | if nptl is in GLIBC_ADDONS, then the dependency is changed to arm-linux-gcc |
| 15:56.48 | mickeyl | which in turn requires glibc |
| 15:56.52 | mickeyl | -> circular dependency |
| 16:01.10 | *** join/#oe odo (n=Rand@xdsl-81-173-153-62.netcologne.de) |
| 16:07.11 | *** join/#oe bluebugs (n=cedric@LAubervilliers-151-11-32-8.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:07.37 | *** join/#oe zap (n=zap@85.249.170.16) |
| 16:08.12 | Laibsch | If I have a line RPROVIDES = japanese-font in a bb file can I then RDEPEND in another package on japanese-font? I want to make sure for a couple of packages that there is a Japanese font installed but which one does not matter. Should I rather use RPROVIDES = virtual/japanese-font? |
| 16:13.10 | hrw|work | cu |
| 16:13.44 | zecke | Laibsch: yes, yes :) |
| 16:13.46 | mickeyl | ERROR: Could not create group: ERROR: value too long for type character varying(255) |
| 16:13.47 | zecke | later guys |
| 16:13.50 | mickeyl | ups, sorry |
| 16:14.02 | Kristoffer | zecke, cya |
| 16:14.06 | Laibsch | zecke: Thanks |
| 16:14.09 | mickeyl | virtual/japansese-font makes it more clear imo |
| 16:14.24 | Laibsch | mickeyl: OK, that is what I'll do then. |
| 16:17.16 | hrw|gone | RPROVIDE should not have 'virtual/' |
| 16:17.38 | mickeyl | why not? |
| 16:18.08 | hrw|gone | ipkg install virtual/japanese-font |
| 16:18.21 | mickeyl | ipkg chokes on that? |
| 16:18.28 | hrw | how it looks? |
| 16:18.32 | mickeyl | looks good to me :D |
| 16:18.41 | mickeyl | but as I know ipkg.... |
| 16:18.44 | mickeyl | it will probably fail |
| 16:18.50 | hrw | virtual/japanese-font... is it PCF font? |
| 16:18.59 | hrw | BDF? TTF? OTF? Type1? QPF? |
| 16:19.12 | hrw | YAFF? |
| 16:19.33 | mickeyl | that's a point for appending the format, but not for removing the virtual :D |
| 16:19.45 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@219.142.239.49) |
| 16:19.53 | mickeyl | anyone tried 161 btw.? |
| 16:20.32 | mickeyl | RPROVIDES = japanese-font-ttf |
| 16:20.39 | hrw | ttf-font-japanese |
| 16:20.42 | Kristoffer | mickeyl, bitbake? |
| 16:21.13 | hrw | we have ttf-NAME packages, qpf-NAME packages so let it be ttf-font-japanese |
| 16:21.19 | mickeyl | fair enough |
| 16:21.23 | mickeyl | Kristoffer: yesß |
| 16:21.24 | mickeyl | ? |
| 16:21.40 | Kristoffer | mickeyl, havent tried it yet :) |
| 16:21.44 | mickeyl | aha |
| 16:21.45 | mickeyl | :) |
| 16:21.49 | mickeyl | no sorry, i meant ipkg |
| 16:22.00 | Kristoffer | aha :) |
| 16:23.39 | *** join/#oe minipanda (n=hzhang@219.236.27.35) |
| 16:24.42 | hrw | now cu for real |
| 16:24.45 | mickeyl | cu |
| 16:30.37 | *** join/#oe incinerator (n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 16:40.58 | lardman|work | bye |
| 16:41.58 | *** join/#oe goxboxlive (n=goxboxli@23.80-203-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:54.40 | *** join/#oe TheCan (n=thecan@dslb-084-056-167-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:54.56 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-014-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:55.17 | *** join/#oe toi (n=peter@d54C27365.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:58.11 | *** join/#oe joshin (i=josh@VDSL-130-13-143-17.PHNX.QWEST.NET) |
| 17:01.20 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 17:11.17 | *** join/#oe ideal (n=idealm_@58.33.55.138) |
| 17:13.28 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 17:24.18 | *** join/#oe zecke (n=ich@88.134.3.173) |
| 17:29.07 | *** join/#oe woglinde (i=woglinde@e178126129.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:29.30 | Laibsch | Is there an alternative source for http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/sources/tslib_pubcvs.arm.linux.org.uk__20060621.tar.gz |
| 17:34.52 | CoreDump|home | Laibsch: I have like a bazillion tslib_pubcvs packages in my sources dir but not that one sorry |
| 17:35.06 | woglinde | coredump *g* |
| 17:42.52 | Laibsch | OK, not a problem. Apparently, CVS fallback took care of it. |
| 17:46.01 | emte | i dont think kergoth has made any changes in a while |
| 17:48.53 | Laibsch | emte: I don't know |
| 17:49.24 | Laibsch | I am compiling imkit-anthy. Must be in the dependencies. |
| 17:53.46 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 17:53.48 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 17:53.50 | woglinde | he pb |
| 17:54.06 | woglinde | pb did you see the game yeesterday? |
| 17:55.56 | pb_ | no, I missed it |
| 17:58.11 | pb_ | but, well, I'm glad we don't have to play Germany in the next match |
| 17:58.58 | woglinde | hehe |
| 17:59.22 | zecke | woglinde: I have signed into this math class |
| 18:00.44 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 18:00.48 | *** join/#oe Crofton (n=balister@hc6521c68.dhcp.vt.edu) |
| 18:04.15 | kergoth | emte: heh, thats why, nobody's touched the .bb either in a long while, so it was never locked down |
| 18:06.02 | *** join/#oe stevenh (n=lews@65.167.23.2) |
| 18:09.08 | zecke | mickey|fifa2006: *busy* |
| 18:29.20 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@4.78.4.43) |
| 18:33.10 | Kristoffer | Whats a good bot to have on an irc channel? |
| 18:33.30 | CoreDump|home | good question |
| 18:33.39 | CoreDump|home | supybot probably |
| 18:33.57 | *** join/#oe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 18:34.00 | kergoth | supybot is indeed quite nice, and its in python, and relatively modular |
| 18:34.04 | Kristoffer | oki, will check that one out then |
| 18:34.20 | kergoth | one annoyance, last time i looked there was no really really good factoid plugin. there were two sort of half assed ones |
| 18:34.26 | kergoth | maybe its improved since then though |
| 18:34.30 | CoreDump|home | kergoth: true |
| 18:34.37 | CoreDump|home | !test |
| 18:34.37 | cdbot | Failed! |
| 18:34.44 | CoreDump|home | !akita |
| 18:34.45 | cdbot | akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog (http://www.akita-ken.ch/Sites/welpen/welpen.html) |
| 18:34.52 | CoreDump|home | works....sortof |
| 18:36.00 | CoreDump|home | kergoth: there were no updates in ages for this bot. Or any other good IRC bot in ages |
| 18:36.20 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:36.38 | kergoth | i was planning on contributing to supybot.. but then i got distracted |
| 18:36.38 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:36.55 | ggilbert_ | Sounds like... most everything |
| 18:37.01 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 18:37.05 | kergoth | ~emulate kergoth |
| 18:37.07 | ibot | ACTION hmms. |
| 18:37.13 | kergoth | damnit, not that one |
| 18:37.15 | kergoth | ~emulate kergoth |
| 18:37.17 | ibot | Why don't you go away, and come back when you've got some clue? |
| 18:37.22 | kergoth | ah well |
| 18:37.29 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 18:42.58 | zecke | hehe |
| 18:51.40 | *** join/#oe wenlin (n=afs@p549F8C83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:51.53 | *** join/#oe ken (n=ken@213-67-126-82-no75.business.telia.com) |
| 19:02.57 | *** join/#oe Harvy (n=norm@80-193-172-141.cable.ubr05.pres.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 19:21.41 | *** join/#oe JoeSchmo (n=jciccone@pool-71-125-88-25.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:23.33 | CIA-13 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r36df3445... 10/packages/linux/linux-dm7025.bb: linux-dm7025: update to dvb multipid patch to r4 in order to fix 'multiple recording on one transponder' issue |
| 19:23.37 | CIA-13 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rff3a6246... 10/packages/dreambox/ (dreambox-dvb-modules.bb dreambox-dvb-modules/dm7025/dream): dreambox-dvb-modules/dm7025: update drivers to fix CI issue |
| 19:23.49 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 19:23.51 | woglinde | he tmbinc |
| 19:27.23 | tmbinc | hi woglinde :) |
| 19:28.00 | woglinde | tmbinc more problems with the merge? |
| 19:31.02 | *** join/#oe W8TVI (n=me@166.165.155.161) |
| 19:32.02 | tmbinc | it still didn't work, yes |
| 19:32.06 | tmbinc | so i'm back at my old version |
| 19:32.12 | tmbinc | waiting for monotone 0.26+ to fix the problem :) |
| 19:32.22 | woglinde | tmbinc oh :( |
| 19:34.12 | pb_ | kergoth: g'day |
| 19:35.36 | *** join/#oe koen (n=koen@72.22.143.163) |
| 19:37.20 | woglinde | he koen |
| 19:38.00 | woglinde | koen can I now build a functional image with angtsroem for the n770? |
| 19:38.01 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 19:38.21 | koen | woglinde: not yet |
| 19:38.27 | kergoth | hey |
| 19:38.35 | woglinde | koen the old kernel-problems? |
| 19:38.40 | koen | I can have a look at it when I get home (~24h from now) |
| 19:38.43 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 19:38.50 | koen | yes |
| 19:38.59 | woglinde | hehe |
| 19:42.34 | koen | "move to 2.6 included a lot of hacking and it would take too much time to commit everything in a versioning system in the way, so it won't be broken from time to time. " |
| 19:42.42 | koen | some people don't really get the point of scms |
| 19:42.47 | koen | idiots |
| 19:43.02 | kergoth | take too much time? |
| 19:43.07 | woglinde | hihi |
| 19:43.08 | kergoth | oh noes, svn ci takes so much time up |
| 19:43.29 | koen | I guess releasing nothing also means you have no broken stuff |
| 19:45.17 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 19:46.33 | koen | oh noes, its broken |
| 19:46.33 | koen | svn up r<non broken> |
| 19:46.36 | koen | or something similar |
| 19:47.32 | *** join/#oe JoeSchmo_ (n=jciccone@pool-72-68-3-239.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:50.44 | woglinde | oh |
| 19:50.47 | woglinde | bye koen |
| 19:54.57 | *** join/#oe Chocobo (n=swinchen@70-33-147-28.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 19:58.13 | *** join/#oe mpoz2 (n=fabian@pD952F1E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:00.36 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 20:06.49 | *** join/#oe oce (i=nobody@antenni.nette.fi) |
| 20:08.01 | *** join/#oe poli (n=ca@CAcert-br/poli) |
| 20:09.51 | *** join/#oe TheCan (n=thecan@dslb-084-056-167-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:12.51 | Kristoffer | got my pubkey, but where should I put it /root/.monotone/kristoffer@openembedded.org? |
| 20:18.55 | *** join/#oe JoeSchmo (n=jciccone@pool-71-127-221-248.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:21.11 | *** join/#oe lrg (n=liam@exize.demon.co.uk) |
| 20:22.12 | lrg | ping RP |
| 20:36.44 | Kristoffer | hmm |
| 20:37.43 | Kristoffer | ls |
| 20:38.03 | woglinde | ls -la |
| 20:38.07 | Kristoffer | how can I activate my old pubkey file in a new installation? |
| 20:38.09 | Kristoffer | :P |
| 20:38.26 | cbrake | I think there is a monotone command to import keys |
| 20:38.38 | cbrake | Kristoffer: my keys are currently living in: .monotone/keys/cbrake\@openembedded.org |
| 20:39.07 | Kristoffer | Ive moved my keyfile to /root/.monotone/kristoffer@openembedded.org/kristoffer@openembedded.org |
| 20:39.19 | Kristoffer | but it doesnt find it, or I need to do something more |
| 20:39.40 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 20:40.00 | TheCan | Kristoffer, maybe try a path like cbrake?s? (with the .monotone/keys) ? |
| 20:40.25 | cbrake | Kristoffer: I'm looking up the command to import keys -- just a min ... |
| 20:40.36 | Kristoffer | thx |
| 20:42.47 | *** join/#oe Crofton_|laptop (n=balister@hc6521c68.dhcp.vt.edu) |
| 20:45.00 | Kristoffer | cbrake, any luck? |
| 20:45.33 | cbrake | Kristoffer: still looking. It is something like "monotone read < keyfilename" |
| 20:46.07 | cbrake | Kristoffer: basically, you pipe you key into monotone, and it figures out the rest, but can't find an example ATM |
| 20:49.26 | cbrake | Kristoffer: yeah, I think that is basically it. I'm not sure if you need to specify a database -- try it without and if that does not work, set up a dummy monotone db to use during the read command. |
| 20:49.37 | Kristoffer | That worked, had to move the file to /root/.monotone/keys/kristoffer@openembedded.org |
| 20:50.09 | Kristoffer | and do mt --db=OE.db read < /root/.monotone/keys/kristoffer@openembedded.org |
| 20:50.12 | Kristoffer | thx |
| 20:53.22 | *** join/#oe W8TVI (n=me@166.166.9.110) |
| 20:53.27 | *** join/#oe Chocobo (n=swinchen@70-33-147-28.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 21:02.10 | CIA-13 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rc559a14f... 10/conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf: |
| 21:02.10 | CIA-13 | Jlime-doney.conf : Removing kernel-modules from distro file |
| 21:02.10 | CIA-13 | * Due to the fact that we are using gcc-4.1.1 and the |
| 21:02.10 | CIA-13 | kernel being not very gcc friendly, we need to build |
| 21:02.10 | CIA-13 | the kernel and modules outside OE. So dont build for images. |
| 21:03.53 | kergoth | Kristoffer: you can always do something ugly like what the Z did for its kernels... OE supports having a seperate toolchain just for the kernel build :P |
| 21:04.41 | Kristoffer | really? |
| 21:04.50 | Kristoffer | that would be really nice |
| 21:05.10 | kergoth | its ugly, involves a postfix on the gcc/ld, ala virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95 or whatever |
| 21:05.14 | kergoth | but it did work |
| 21:05.41 | kergoth | in that case, most would build that toolchain externally and use ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 21:08.30 | woglinde | hm how to get ticks from arm-cpu like rdtsc on i386? |
| 21:14.25 | *** join/#oe thejapa (n=thejapa@200-232-210-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 21:19.46 | gints | what oe snapshot is recomended to download for familiar? |
| 21:20.29 | thejapa | org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 21:20.39 | gints | ty thejapa |
| 21:20.55 | gints | ah yes |
| 21:20.58 | thejapa | gints: that's for 0.8.2 |
| 21:21.05 | thejapa | you want familiar unstable? |
| 21:21.10 | gints | yeah |
| 21:21.12 | *** join/#oe ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 21:21.12 | *** mode/#oe [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 21:21.24 | woglinde | he thejapa |
| 21:21.33 | gints | 0.8.3... up to rc2 |
| 21:22.00 | thejapa | gints: then you need to download it thru git |
| 21:22.02 | gints | I want to build ipaq h3900 immage that do not hang |
| 21:22.03 | thejapa | http://familiar.handhelds.org/git/familiar-build.git |
| 21:22.44 | thejapa | the tree will be named org.handhelds.familiar |
| 21:22.56 | thejapa | woglinde: hi there1 |
| 21:28.12 | gints | thejapa: k.. I feel nooobish ... :) where is OE snapshot there in git? |
| 21:30.47 | thejapa | gints: sorry, wrote in a hurry. |
| 21:30.59 | gints | :) np |
| 21:31.06 | thejapa | do 'git clone http://familiar.handhelds.org/git/familiar-build.git' |
| 21:31.39 | thejapa | it will be inside familiar-build, along with a copy of bitbake. |
| 21:36.32 | thejapa | gints: any progress? it will take a while to download all stuff :) |
| 21:36.57 | gints | I install git :) |
| 21:40.02 | gints | he he ... with git I got gnu interactive tools |
| 21:41.04 | *** join/#oe redguy (n=mati@acw4.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:42.09 | thejapa | no no, it's this gint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software) |
| 21:42.14 | thejapa | oops |
| 21:42.16 | thejapa | git hehe |
| 21:42.41 | gints | :) |
| 21:43.12 | gints | I see |
| 21:49.57 | *** join/#oe Cwiiis_ (n=cwiiis@host86-134-48-133.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:51.46 | Laibsch | Having some problems creating and applying a patch to be used during compilation against the fetched source: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bNbe8c53.html Can somebody please give me a hint what I am doing wrong? |
| 21:53.14 | *** join/#oe csmanx (n=csman@70.55.144.43) |
| 21:53.14 | kergoth | Laibsch: patch=0? |
| 21:53.36 | Laibsch | I did try patch=1, same problem. |
| 21:53.40 | kergoth | have you tried applying teh patch to the source tree manually? |
| 21:54.19 | Laibsch | Well, it should work since it was created against the source tree. But I'll try that just to be sure. |
| 21:54.55 | *** join/#oe Chocobo (n=swinchen@70-33-147-28.agstme.adelphia.net) |
| 21:54.59 | kergoth | eh? no, there are lots of ways it could fail. say, an incorrect -p value on the patch line, for example |
| 21:57.03 | Laibsch | Sure there a millions of ways. That is where I am looking for help. |
| 21:57.13 | Laibsch | Trying a dry-run gave strange results. |
| 21:57.33 | kergoth | cd inside of the source tree in work and use -p 1 |
| 21:57.36 | kergoth | thats what oe is doing by default |
| 21:57.39 | *** part/#oe mpoz2 (n=fabian@pD952F1E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:58.07 | Laibsch | http://rafb.net/paste/results/q7Ut2Q67.html |
| 21:59.13 | kergoth | so it was already applied, or your patch included things it shouldnt have |
| 21:59.31 | kergoth | cat /mnt/pfaffe/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/imkit/tosa.patch | lsdiff |
| 22:01.17 | Laibsch | Need to install patchutils. |
| 22:01.43 | kergoth | yes :) patchutils is your friend. i use it constantly. filterdiff, lsdiff, recountdiff when i edit it manually.. |
| 22:03.04 | *** part/#oe thejapa (n=thejapa@200-232-210-97.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 22:04.21 | Laibsch | I get the names of a lot of files. Including png files which I guess is strange. |
| 22:05.12 | Laibsch | OK, the problem is that the updated dir is not complete. It contains only the changed files. |
| 22:13.26 | *** join/#oe ken (n=ken@213-67-126-82-no75.business.telia.com) |
| 22:24.19 | *** join/#oe KerwoodDerby (n=KerwoodD@69-174-178-223.frdrmd.adelphia.net) |
| 22:30.41 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-014-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:31.21 | *** join/#oe Cwiiis_ (n=cwiiis@host86-133-50-57.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:34.23 | *** join/#oe Crofton__|laptop (n=balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net) |
| 22:36.17 | KerwoodDerby | I'd really like to get going with OE but I'm jammed-up with monotone 0.26. Following the user manual, I got as far as attemping to checkout the OE package and got this: http://oe.pastebin.com/724361 . I'm guessing it's something trivial that I missed. |
| 22:37.13 | Laibsch | kergoth: I can apply the patch from the command line just fine now while being in /mnt/pfaffe/src/openembedded/tmp/work/arm-linux/imkit-anthy-0.4.5-r0/imkit-0.4.5 with -p1. Using patch=1 for tota.patch in the bb file still fails with "No file to patch". Any idea? |
| 22:37.21 | Laibsch | patch=0 does not work either. |
| 23:03.17 | *** join/#oe dijenerate (n=dijenera@69.73.207.240) |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe Laibsch (n=Laibsch@V14ae.v.pppool.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe magnet (n=magnet@lns-bzn-28-82-250-146-16.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe mithro (n=tim@ppp246-117.static.internode.on.net) |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe Gerrath (n=Shane_@unaffiliated/gerrath) |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe cyn (n=cyn@cpe-071-070-234-035.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:15.49 | *** join/#oe DaKa (n=David@nslu2-linux/daka) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe njs (n=njs@adsl-66-159-194-130.dslextreme.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe pb_ (n=pb@82-70-217-41.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe tomimo (n=kurre@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe RP (i=1000@tim.rpsys.net) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe NAiL (n=repvik@nslu2-linux/pdpc.active.repvik) |
| 23:15.50 | *** join/#oe zekoZeko_ (i=b@hydra.aufbix.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:15.51 | *** join/#oe CoreDump|afk (n=mhentges@hentges.net) |
| 23:15.51 | *** join/#oe jsun (n=jsun@host246.docomolabs-usa.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 23:23.51 | *** join/#oe KerwoodDerby (n=KerwoodD@69-174-178-223.frdrmd.adelphia.net) |
| 23:29.29 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: any idea if someone has done a memory tester ala memcheckx86 for arm? just writing and reading back bit patterns adn the like? |
| 23:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | oh geez - I have absoulutely no idea |
| 23:30.40 | CosmicPenguin | ARM isn't my bag, baby |
| 23:31.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:31.25 | kergoth | figured |
| 23:31.28 | kergoth | anyone else know? |
| 23:31.34 | kergoth | pb_? |
| 23:32.05 | kergoth | have what looks like memory corruption occuring, want to make sure its a software and not a hardware problem |
| 23:37.28 | KerwoodDerby | why would monotone complain that the layout of the OE.db database doesn't match monotone v0.26? |
| 23:37.50 | kergoth | because it doesnt. |
| 23:37.58 | kergoth | see the wiki. you need to install 0.25 |
| 23:39.50 | KerwoodDerby | Well, durnit. I HAD read that part and I (mistakenly) concluded that currently either 0.25 OR 0.26 were ok. My bad. Thanks. |