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| 00:56.00 | Jshanab | I have upgraded to bitbake 1.4.2 and found I have to set BBPATH at a system level, a script exporting it just isn't working for some reason. Now I get ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf and am thinking it is the BBFILES in the local.conf |
| 01:10.44 | Jshanab | It looks as if it is ignoring the BBPATH and using only conf/bitbake.conf |
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| 01:12.44 | Jshanab | nevermind, @#@$ old terminal window , need caffine.... |
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| 01:22.37 | Jshanab | Anyone know where I should set TARGET_ARCH? |
| 01:23.04 | emte | you shouldnt |
| 01:23.11 | emte | use the correct MACHINE= |
| 01:23.33 | emte | it will inherit TARGET_ARCH from that |
| 01:24.08 | Jshanab | ok, Where is that set? LOL |
| 01:24.18 | emte | in local.conf |
| 01:28.02 | Jshanab | thanks, i was looking at the familiar's conf file not the sample. I see it now. |
| 01:29.10 | emte | you are not trying to build 0.8.4 i hope |
| 01:29.32 | emte | that is currently in git, not monotone |
| 01:29.49 | emte | and it is unlikly that unstable will build at all |
| 01:30.14 | Jshanab | 0.8.3 |
| 01:30.42 | Jshanab | I am trying to follow the Open embedded site, it is young on documentation |
| 01:32.27 | Jshanab | I will have to pick something close and then tweak it |
| 01:33.22 | emte | what are you trying to do? |
| 01:35.00 | Jshanab | I have a HTC-apache AKA sprint PPC6700. I have booted familiar on it but things don't work so some things need to be adjusted for the hardware. I am trying to get to the point where I can work on the drivers. |
| 01:35.28 | Jshanab | It has a xscale270 ie armv5te |
| 01:36.13 | Jshanab | I wonder if the ipaq-pxa270 would be a good choice |
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| 01:45.09 | emte | possibly |
| 01:45.19 | emte | someon else i think has a HTC board ... |
| 01:47.46 | magnet | HTC blue angel or something ? |
| 01:47.50 | magnet | I got HTC magician there. |
| 01:48.34 | Jshanab | how come the familiar conf doesn't set the machine? |
| 01:49.07 | emte | beciuase its a distro not a machine |
| 01:49.11 | emte | because* |
| 01:49.41 | emte | familiar covers ~ten+ series of devices |
| 01:51.52 | Jshanab | ok, i am missing a few steps then. How do I create an image for my device. This needs to be a bootable image containng the kernel, the base utils and well... a distribution . What is that config for? |
| 01:52.36 | emte | the only config you need to edit is local.conf |
| 01:53.02 | emte | and in that the bare min you need to set are your paths, DISTRO, and MACHINE |
| 01:56.58 | Jshanab | crap, I had followed someones instruction to copy familiar's conf to local.conf. That was wrong ? |
| 02:00.41 | emte | i wouldnt expect it to work |
| 02:00.46 | emte | what page are you reading? |
| 02:01.22 | Jshanab | To tell you the truth I have forgot! |
| 02:02.13 | thejapa | emte: what about DISTRO_VERSION? Shouldn't it be set if using DISTRO="familiar"? |
| 02:02.45 | emte | no |
| 02:02.52 | emte | er your asking |
| 02:02.56 | emte | yeah it should |
| 02:03.04 | emte | that is a recent change that i forget about |
| 02:03.15 | emte | it used to be one string |
| 02:03.24 | emte | then for some reason it was changed |
| 02:03.31 | thejapa | btw, familiar-unstable breaks on gpe-calendar, koen left a but about it a few days ago. |
| 02:03.46 | thejapa | it just broke on mine, after the whoooole day building it. crap |
| 02:04.06 | thejapa | gee, koen left a bug open, not his but. |
| 02:04.07 | thejapa | ow |
| 02:04.17 | emte | unstable will probably fail on almost everything |
| 02:04.37 | thejapa | hehe, i know it the hard way |
| 02:07.14 | emte | Jshanab, you should be reading/following this: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
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| 02:12.42 | Jshanab | I am, just managed to get interruppted during some build problems. I think I got it now, I am configuring local.conf. |
| 02:16.54 | CSMan | so guys, the best thing to do would be to umount all media devs manually before going into sleep mode ? |
| 02:18.32 | emte | CSMan, yeah thats what i do |
| 02:18.44 | emte | and my ipaq behaves |
| 02:18.54 | CSMan | emte: i'll make a little script for it |
| 02:18.57 | CSMan | =) |
| 02:19.04 | emte | just pull out the device |
| 02:19.11 | emte | :) |
| 02:22.07 | Jshanab | Not to start a flame war, but should I use linux-uclibc or linux |
| 02:23.22 | emte | i would start with linux |
| 02:23.28 | emte | and tehn move to uclibc |
| 02:25.03 | CSMan | emte: just pull out the device ? |
| 02:26.23 | emte | sd, cf, pcmcia |
| 02:26.33 | emte | they will umount on removal |
| 02:26.50 | emte | unload* |
| 02:27.01 | thejapa | curiously... my h2200 has no need for umount before sleep. |
| 02:27.13 | thejapa | it is magic, i believe. and rootfs is on cf. |
| 02:27.22 | thejapa | it is booting from lab. |
| 02:27.25 | CSMan | thejapa: it's because you have 2.6.sx |
| 02:27.27 | Jshanab | SO, what do I build to create the whole image? the getting started is a little vague on that point |
| 02:27.29 | thejapa | ah |
| 02:28.01 | thejapa | you should buy a pocket of your favorite sci fi writer and do bitbake gpe-image or opie-image |
| 02:28.14 | CSMan | lol |
| 02:28.20 | thejapa | if your a good reader, you may even finish the book before the build completes |
| 02:28.36 | CSMan | gpe-image would take trillions of cpu cycles on a PII machine |
| 02:29.13 | thejapa | but I did opie-image a few days ago. it didn't work though. |
| 02:29.27 | thejapa | i'm new to this stuff too. ;) |
| 02:29.41 | Jshanab | I am watching stargate as i work on this, LOL. While we wait for angstrum, which do you like best GPE or OPIE, or what is the difference in less than 100 words |
| 02:30.21 | Jshanab | I am gonna try to do all compiling on an AMD64 |
| 02:30.27 | thejapa | opie has more apps, but i can't find a working image for h2200. |
| 02:30.45 | thejapa | so, it leaves me with gpe. but i do have a thing for gnome stuff. |
| 02:37.44 | Jshanab | This looks like I missed a step? "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency opie-image" |
| 02:40.56 | thejapa | jshanab: it should be there, which branch you are using? |
| 02:41.38 | thejapa | i mean, are you using /stuff/org... what? |
| 02:41.50 | Jshanab | org.embedded.oz354fam083 |
| 02:42.53 | thejapa | is there a file org.embedded.oz354fam083/packages/meta/opie-image.bb ? |
| 02:43.37 | Jshanab | yup |
| 02:44.30 | thejapa | have you set BBPATH correctly? |
| 02:44.55 | thejapa | like BBPATH=/stuff/build:/stuff/org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 02:45.20 | Jshanab | but....do I set DL_DIR to something? |
| 02:46.11 | thejapa | wait, BBPATH is an environment variable, not a setting in local.conf |
| 02:46.12 | Jshanab | yes BBPATH is set exactly as you say |
| 02:46.17 | thejapa | ok |
| 02:46.35 | Jshanab | ghidrah conf # env |grep BBPATH |
| 02:46.36 | Jshanab | BBPATH=/stuff/build:/stuff/org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 02:47.49 | thejapa | the DL_DIR is where bitbake will download tar.gz files to compile. you can put whatever path you want here. mine is DL_DIR = "/stuff/sources" |
| 02:47.54 | thejapa | but this is personal. |
| 02:48.32 | thejapa | in your local.conf is it BBFILES = "/stuff/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/*/*.bb" ? |
| 02:50.20 | Jshanab | There the bugger is...org.embedded notorg.openembedded me bad |
| 02:51.29 | thejapa | hey, fixing other ppl problems is way easier than our own, i should do it more often. :D |
| 02:52.14 | Jshanab | well, I have a screen full of errors now, i guess that is progress ? |
| 02:53.11 | CSMan | emte: now after mounting as user, it won't let me dismount unless i'm root |
| 02:53.28 | emte | lol |
| 02:53.30 | CSMan | i know why. |
| 02:53.36 | CSMan | emte: busybox. |
| 02:53.37 | Jshanab | they look like : |
| 02:53.38 | CSMan | =P |
| 02:53.39 | Jshanab | ... |
| 02:53.40 | Jshanab | ERROR: ("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/stuff/build/tmp/staging/HTC-apache-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0x2b139d60d290>)) while parsing /stuff/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver_3.3.5.6.bb |
| 02:53.42 | Jshanab | ... |
| 02:54.39 | thejapa | jezz |
| 02:55.05 | emte | you cant build abi with familiar |
| 02:55.47 | thejapa | what's abi? |
| 02:55.52 | Jshanab | Educate me, what is abi |
| 02:55.59 | thejapa | hehe |
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| 02:57.31 | NAbyss_ | Jshanab: Application binary interface.. in this context, it refers to EABI, afaik, which is a way of ensuring interoperability between apps compiled with different settings. |
| 02:57.44 | Jshanab | Dumb question, do I need familiar? How hard is it to make my own distribution? |
| 02:57.49 | NAbyss_ | (anyone, feel free to chip in if I'm off the mark) |
| 02:58.25 | Jshanab | OMG ABI I have used that before to let old solaris code run on linux years ago |
| 02:59.18 | NAbyss_ | Jshanab: Probably best to just use familiar.. creating a distro wouldn't be too easy. |
| 03:00.25 | thejapa | you can try building packages in org.*/packages that works |
| 03:00.45 | thejapa | but you could just use ipkg |
| 03:01.13 | CSMan | thejapa: now i have to go all the way to the server in Lima to build umount =P |
| 03:01.44 | thejapa | CSMan, I don't understand why they put a lima inside the Peru. |
| 03:01.48 | thejapa | hohoho |
| 03:01.51 | CSMan | XD |
| 03:02.14 | CSMan | very funny japinho |
| 03:03.36 | Jshanab | How do I turn off abi? where is the darn kernel config, menuconfig |
| 03:05.19 | thejapa | jshanab: I don't know if abi can be turned of, and i 'm curious about how to build custom kernels too. |
| 03:07.25 | Jshanab | I do it all the time in my desktop and even the crosscompiler toolchain, i just don't know the stuff to select. I am looking for a starting point. I came to the openembedded in search of the kernel .config file for familiar |
| 03:08.47 | CSMan | where in the tree is the original ping util ? |
| 03:08.53 | Jshanab | I assume it is gonna be |
| 03:08.55 | Jshanab | bitbake kernelheaders |
| 03:08.57 | Jshanab | bitbake kernel-2.16.16 |
| 03:08.58 | Jshanab | make menuconfig |
| 03:09.00 | Jshanab | make clean modules modules_install bzImage |
| 03:09.01 | Jshanab | etc.... |
| 03:09.05 | thejapa | compiling kernels for desktop is ok for me too. I just have no idea how to do it for h2200. |
| 03:09.17 | thejapa | or whatever handheld. |
| 03:10.06 | CSMan | it should be the same, you get a kernel-hXXXX package and the respective kernel-modules-hXXXX package |
| 03:10.30 | CSMan | emte: is that correct? |
| 03:10.40 | Jshanab | It should be identical. amen CSMan |
| 03:10.56 | emte | no |
| 03:10.58 | thejapa | ah, but to alter the .config I believe you have no access to menuconfig |
| 03:11.05 | emte | its quite a bit more convoluted than that |
| 03:11.20 | thejapa | i'm not happy to be right this time. |
| 03:11.33 | emte | you need to remember that the distro defines rule of what to pack in the image etc |
| 03:12.37 | Jshanab | The distro is just a big metapackage. The drivers to handle GPIO is the fun part |
| 03:13.00 | CSMan | i'm trying to find the original ping utility |
| 03:13.36 | Jshanab | the PXA270 developer pdf is like 1300 pages! |
| 03:14.17 | thejapa | CSMan: iputils? |
| 03:14.23 | NAbyss_ | Jshanab: That' not surprising... |
| 03:14.25 | CSMan | thejapa: good hint |
| 03:14.58 | NAbyss_ | One of the projects here at work is a simple web-based app, nowhere near the complexity of a processor.. requirements spec/high level design is ~200 pages. |
| 03:15.33 | CSMan | NAbyss_: hmm ? |
| 03:15.51 | NAbyss_ | CSMan: Was just replying to Jshanab about the 1300 page PDF.. |
| 03:16.06 | CSMan | oh |
| 03:16.10 | CSMan | ic |
| 03:16.35 | thejapa | bah, to study for my software engineering 1st exam, i had to study 800 slides. |
| 03:16.54 | CSMan | that's a lot of coverage |
| 03:17.05 | thejapa | yeah, nobody did the exam hehe |
| 03:17.35 | CSMan | wonder how the 2nd will be |
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| 06:43.48 | mithro | f pro is opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress? |
| 06:43.50 | mithro | :) |
| 06:45.07 | mithro | A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station... |
| 06:47.52 | france | heh |
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| 07:13.43 | emte | mithro, conquest the RC has demonstrated this many times |
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| 07:14.20 | mithro | ? |
| 07:14.33 | emte | or argumetitivly you could also say congress |
| 07:14.50 | emte | both suppress progress and change |
| 07:15.54 | emte | burt i still thek the roman catholic church is the right answer |
| 07:15.57 | emte | think* |
| 07:16.19 | emte | and with that sleep too |
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| 08:11.30 | mithro | can somebody send me an email? |
| 08:11.43 | NAbyss_ | Yep? |
| 08:18.45 | mithro | mithro AT mithis DOT com |
| 08:19.41 | NAbyss_ | mithro: Should be on the way |
| 08:21.16 | mithro | NAbyss_: your Ben Stewart? |
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| 08:25.10 | NAbyss_ | mithro: Ja |
| 08:25.22 | mithro | you work at Bosch? |
| 08:25.29 | NAbyss_ | Yep |
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| 08:28.19 | mithro | what you do there? |
| 08:28.35 | NAbyss_ | Internal application development |
| 08:28.49 | NAbyss_ | Work on some of the testing equipment |
| 08:30.09 | mithro | you like it there? |
| 08:31.10 | NAbyss_ | Yeah, I don't mind it too much... there's the inevitable management bullshit you get at any large company, but the people I work with are good. Only real complaint is the managment attitude against open source, and doing the job right. |
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| 08:50.47 | _bambam | hi |
| 08:51.47 | _bambam | i got a problem related to gcc-3.4.4 buildin for distro=ezx, breakin on: http://pastebin.com/757187 |
| 08:51.57 | _bambam | is this known? |
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| 09:17.32 | _bambam | btw, what happened to bugs.oe.o, bugzilla down? |
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| 09:27.37 | cyrilRomain | 'morning |
| 09:27.45 | _bambam | moin cyrilRomain |
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| 09:30.30 | hrw | hi |
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| 09:54.17 | CIA-9 | 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r32d211ea... 10/packages/libosip2/libosip2_2.2.2.bb: libosip2: Add libosip2 2.2.2, the GNU oSIP (RFC3261) library. |
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| 10:18.10 | hrw | hi koen |
| 10:20.18 | koen | hey hrw |
| 10:20.47 | hrw | koen: did you tried to build gcc 4.1.1 for target? |
| 10:21.01 | _bambam | hi koen |
| 10:21.17 | _bambam | koen: could you please try buildin gcc-3.4.4? |
| 10:21.38 | koen | hrw: I'm pretty sure I did |
| 10:21.43 | _bambam | heh, gcc seems to be a likkle mess after all |
| 10:22.05 | koen | hrw: let me boot my workstation |
| 10:22.15 | hrw | koen: I have a feeling that 3.4.4 is fscked - want to know about others |
| 10:27.54 | koen | I know gcc 4.0.2 builds |
| 10:29.55 | hrw | 4.0.2 built with 4.0.2? |
| 10:30.05 | koen | yes |
| 10:30.19 | _bambam | hmm, it won't here |
| 10:30.24 | hrw | not on amd64 |
| 10:30.49 | _bambam | hrw: also problems with gcov-io? |
| 10:31.11 | hrw | | /home/hrw/devel/build/dev/tmp/work/arm-linux/gcc-4.0.2-r2/gcc-4.0.2/gcc/libgcc2.c:1815: error: 'stderr' undeclared (first us |
| 10:32.51 | _bambam | hrw: i fixed this in replacin #include <stdio.h> with "<stagin_incdir>/stdio.h" |
| 10:33.13 | _bambam | hrw: but the problem is struct gcov_var |
| 10:35.41 | hrw | maybe - but I have to check why gcc 3.4.4 is not buildable too |
| 10:37.38 | koen | Packaged contents of gcc into /media/hda4/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/gcc_4.1.1-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 10:38.07 | hrw | koen: on x86? |
| 10:38.26 | koen | Linux lieve 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:20:54 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 10:39.41 | _bambam | hrw: 3.4.4 breaks on the same issue here |
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| 10:42.55 | hrw | looks like gcc need -I ${STAGING_INCDIR} |
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| 10:47.21 | cyrilRomain | hrw: gcc-4.1.1 built with gcc-cross-4.1.1 here on x86 |
| 10:47.50 | cyrilRomain | hrw: I have not tried it on my tosa yet though |
| 10:48.11 | koen | Packaged contents of postgresql into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/openzaurus/deploy/ipk/postgresql_8.1.4-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 10:48.27 | koen | ~lart postgresql for trying to run generated binaries |
| 10:48.29 | hrw | cyrilRomain: thx |
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| 10:52.22 | _bambam | hmm, so probably best'llbe jus to build in 32bit-userland |
| 10:54.15 | hrw | _bambam: thats too often is no option |
| 10:54.55 | _bambam | but it's worth a try, cause every gcc i tried broke on amd64 |
| 10:55.07 | koen | linux32? |
| 10:56.42 | eFfeM | hoen, hrw, yesterday I build 4.1.1 both initial-cross and cross for arm |
| 10:56.43 | _bambam | yes |
| 10:56.50 | eFfeM | s/hoen/koen/ |
| 10:57.20 | eFfeM | had to apply a hack for ld for big endian |
| 10:57.31 | eFfeM | didn't get to making a proper patch |
| 10:57.56 | eFfeM | managed to compile and run a hello world program, also managed to build the kernel, but didn't try it |
| 10:58.49 | eFfeM | first try glibc, 2.4 provides configure problems, so as as starter I'm now recompiling glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6 |
| 10:58.57 | hrw | eFfeM: cross and initial-cross are ok. I have problems with 'gcc' for arm |
| 10:59.42 | eFfeM | hrw, haven't tried that one, will try later (it is now humming on glibc, first grab some food |
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| 11:14.23 | CIA-9 | 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r9dff94c5... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: Add latest version (1.1.12) |
| 11:14.28 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdf77d30f... 10/packages/postgresql/postgresql_8.1.4.bb: postgresql: add 8.1.4, with a slight hack to make packaging work |
| 11:15.09 | XorA|gone | hrw: you bought an amd64? |
| 11:15.58 | hrw | XorA|gone: no cash for it |
| 11:16.05 | hrw | XorA|gone: I got access to amd64 |
| 11:17.13 | XorA|gone | hrw: I see neither of the problems you do using FC4 or gentoo or deban, I suspect the setup on that machine is b0rked |
| 11:18.27 | XorA|gone | bugger I need monotone 0.25 for amd64 |
| 11:19.39 | hrw | XorA|gone: on ewi (x86 debian) I cannot build gcc 3.4.4 for arm. on dev. (amd64 gentoo) I cannot build gcc 3.4.4/4.0.2 |
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| 11:21.44 | XorA|gone | hrw: wierd, as I can build gcc on x86 debian and on pretty much any amd64 distro |
| 11:22.49 | XorA|gone | sorry, I need to go buy food, back later |
| 11:23.39 | hrw | cu |
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| 11:33.16 | koen | hrw: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=67a98f498e25daeb44476a66b885f8baf59e93cb would be nice for .oz354x |
| 11:33.59 | hrw | what use it? |
| 11:34.16 | koen | most voip apps |
| 11:34.29 | hrw | ok |
| 11:34.36 | hrw | building |
| 11:35.18 | hrw | woglinde: how much costs new cheap laptop in .de? |
| 11:35.43 | koen | I didn't enable the arm[4,5] asm features, but it's easy to do it yourself |
| 11:36.46 | goxboxlive | whats up with the OE wiki page.? It is down, is there a new web web site? |
| 11:38.24 | hrw | NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 11:38.24 | hrw | NOTE: /home/hrw/devel/build/0420-354x/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/speex/speex_config_types.h |
| 11:38.27 | hrw | hm.. |
| 11:39.12 | woglinde | hrw which type of? |
| 11:39.23 | woglinde | hrw harddisk broken after 6 month? |
| 11:39.58 | hrw | woglinde: Ania wants to buy a laptop - it has to work and be cheap (but new) |
| 11:40.09 | koen | goxboxlive: www.openembedded.org has always worked |
| 11:40.36 | woglinde | hrw complicated theme |
| 11:41.13 | hrw | woglinde: I suppose. but I'm also lame when it comes to laptops |
| 11:41.31 | woglinde | hrw hm best think how much it should be |
| 11:41.37 | goxboxlive | koen: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 11:41.38 | woglinde | in the first |
| 11:41.38 | hrw | koen: I'm trying to fix speex build |
| 11:41.46 | woglinde | than we could lokk what fits |
| 11:41.49 | hrw | NOTE: package speex-1.1.12-r0.1: task do_build: completed |
| 11:42.00 | koen | goxboxlive: I repeat: www.openembedded.org has always worked |
| 11:42.18 | hrw | koen: parallel make OFF, some perl magic OFF, some perl magic changed |
| 11:42.54 | hrw | koen: http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted = 404 |
| 11:43.49 | koen | hrw: read the 404 page |
| 11:43.52 | hrw | koen: I know |
| 11:44.17 | koen | I can't help it that people are too stupid to read |
| 11:44.39 | hrw | koen: echo "RewriteRule ^cgi-bin/moin.cgi/(.*)$ /wiki/$1">>.htaccess ? |
| 11:44.52 | koen | hrw: doesn't work |
| 11:45.04 | koen | that clashes with another rewrite rule |
| 11:45.10 | hrw | ;( |
| 11:45.11 | koen | (as I said before) |
| 11:45.25 | koen | fixes welcome |
| 11:45.55 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r5d86b4a8... 10/packages/readline/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add readline |
| 11:45.57 | koen | mickeyl will be collection ssh keys soon |
| 11:45.59 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r3b0e4108... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: |
| 11:45.59 | CIA-9 | classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: minor improvements: |
| 11:45.59 | CIA-9 | * use PR as well |
| 11:45.59 | CIA-9 | * prefix packages with 'staging-' to avoid confusion with regular packages |
| 11:46.03 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r67a98f49... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex 1.1.12: enable fixed point from ARM |
| 11:46.48 | goxboxlive | koen: i see your point. |
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| 11:50.08 | koen | hey zecke |
| 11:50.21 | zecke | ho |
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| 11:53.36 | hrw | hi zecke |
| 11:53.57 | hrw | woglinde: I suspect upto 600EUR |
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| 11:54.42 | zecke | woglinde: I hope the n770 is not looking like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43911671@N00/108651788 |
| 11:55.32 | woglinde | zecke mom let me see how it looks now |
| 11:57.16 | zecke | RP: do you know of any good option to debug lock ups? |
| 11:58.03 | zecke | anyone here can do popups with dhtml? |
| 11:58.14 | zecke | or look into code that works on mozilla but not khtml/safari? |
| 11:58.30 | koen | zecke: what's the best way to use bbnote from a shell task? |
| 11:58.43 | zecke | oenote? |
| 11:58.52 | koen | oenote "foo" ? |
| 11:58.58 | zecke | yes |
| 11:59.07 | hrw | zecke: http://www.volkswagen.pl/js/popup.js works everywhere |
| 11:59.44 | zecke | license? |
| 12:00.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r1cbd0fbd... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: use package for do_stage if present |
| 12:00.45 | zecke | koen: I fear oenote will print into the log and not on the console |
| 12:01.07 | koen | zecke: that's why I asked |
| 12:01.19 | hrw | zecke: basically this code degrades to "window.open()"... |
| 12:01.55 | zecke | hrw: ah well, the tinderbox uses javascript for showing a popup when someone hits the 'L' |
| 12:02.18 | zecke | hrw: on camino/mozilla it shows a popup, on khtml/safari it is not doing that and opens the side directly... |
| 12:02.47 | hrw | popups are bad thing anyway |
| 12:03.15 | zecke | hrw: where would you put 'Add Note' 'Show Log' then? |
| 12:04.50 | hrw | zecke: note probably could be done with div and some JS (ajax) but showlog as target='_blank' |
| 12:05.01 | hrw | koen: I granulated speex |
| 12:05.07 | koen | hrw: cool |
| 12:06.09 | hrw | koen: will push into oz354x - check them |
| 12:06.34 | hrw | recipe differ from .dev one |
| 12:07.49 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc622ea50... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: added 1.1.12 |
| 12:07.55 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rb624975d... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: split binaries to separate package |
| 12:10.24 | koen | btw, we have http://monotone.openembedded.org now as a shortcut to viewmtn |
| 12:10.48 | hrw | nice |
| 12:11.09 | hrw | when monotone server on this address? |
| 12:11.23 | koen | 3 days ago? |
| 12:11.25 | zecke | hrw: once, I post the monotone migration plan :} |
| 12:12.26 | zecke | koen: did you know 'defaults' |
| 12:12.45 | koen | zecke: --set-defaults ? |
| 12:12.50 | zecke | defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 |
| 12:13.08 | koen | ah, cool |
| 12:13.13 | koen | didn't know about that |
| 12:16.12 | zecke | wow |
| 12:16.18 | zecke | event.preventBubble is not defined... |
| 12:17.44 | RP | zecke: Depends on the kind of lockup ;- |
| 12:17.47 | RP | ;-) |
| 12:17.52 | zecke | RP: kernel lock ups |
| 12:18.00 | zecke | RP: Linux kernel to be accurate |
| 12:18.18 | RP | zecke: There is the softlockup detector but that will depend if your irq handlers are dead or not |
| 12:18.55 | RP | so like I said, it depends on the kind of lockup (soft or hard) |
| 12:18.57 | zecke | RP: I suspect it is a lockup with swap vs. network stack |
| 12:19.25 | RP | right, try enabling the softlockup detector |
| 12:19.43 | RP | If it detects the kernel in the same place in the code, it will generate a backtrace |
| 12:20.15 | koen | hrw: there is an amule package in the bugtracker (which is down atm), no idea if it works |
| 12:21.29 | hrw | ok |
| 12:28.50 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r23408240... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: more generic |
| 12:38.29 | zecke | cya later |
| 12:55.13 | hrw | RP: looks like there is a method to force driver even when pcmciautils are used |
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| 13:05.52 | hrw | re koen |
| 13:07.56 | hrw | koen: how goes your SoC? |
| 13:08.24 | koen | slow |
| 13:08.45 | koen | ~lart glibc for broken do_stage |
| 13:10.02 | koen | but builds are a lot faster now :) |
| 13:10.55 | hrw | toolchain packaged does not need to be rebuilt etc? |
| 13:11.22 | koen | only do_stage packages |
| 13:12.01 | koen | if do_stage find a matching package it will use that and skip the original do_stage |
| 13:12.17 | hrw | aha |
| 13:12.46 | woglinde | fun |
| 13:12.51 | woglinde | http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/live/player_video.jsp?programs=11998947&lstreams=12001246 |
| 13:12.52 | hrw | so currently speex will build itself but use package for do_stage()? |
| 13:16.56 | koen | hrw: yes |
| 13:17.11 | koen | hrw: so people will need to bump PR to affect staging |
| 13:17.16 | koen | (or remove the package) |
| 13:19.46 | hrw | ok |
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| 13:25.05 | hrw | hi Rene |
| 13:25.23 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 13:25.28 | reenoo | hey Marcin |
| 13:25.58 | hrw | someone here use 'native' machine? |
| 13:26.06 | woglinde | hi renoo |
| 13:26.07 | hrw | in a MACHINE='native' meaning |
| 13:26.15 | reenoo | hey woglinde |
| 13:27.19 | reenoo | anyone happen to know whether .dev is expect to build working openslug images? or do I need a special branch for that? |
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| 13:38.50 | RP | reenoo: It is supposed to work. The NSLU people use it directly |
| 13:39.28 | RP | hrw: I thought there was a way to control pcmcia's bindings... |
| 13:39.56 | hrw | RP: modalias thing works |
| 13:40.17 | hrw | RP: still both drivers are loaded but only proper one is used |
| 13:41.09 | RP | I need to find some time to work on the kernel as CF card handling looks totally broken in recent kernels :-( |
| 13:41.32 | hrw | in which way 'broken'? |
| 13:41.48 | RP | hrw: You can't eject CF cards |
| 13:42.14 | RP | well, you can but it doesn't work and you'll have to reboot to regain use of the PCMCIA slot |
| 13:42.39 | reenoo | RP: hmm. odd. the build succeeds but the slug just hangs (no serial port yet...) |
| 13:43.01 | hrw | RP: ah that.. yes.. 'cardctl eject' works ok. getting it manually sort of work only |
| 13:43.01 | RP | reenoo: My images do that as well. I need to build a serial lead and see what's wrong |
| 13:43.16 | hrw | ~lart debootstrap |
| 13:43.24 | RP | hrw: By recent kernels I mean the git ones |
| 13:43.30 | hrw | RP: ah. |
| 13:43.32 | RP | hrw: 2.6.16 is ok |
| 13:43.54 | RP | 2.6.17 will be broken |
| 13:45.12 | reenoo | RP: ah, interesting. fwiw, images built from the 2.7-beta snapshot don't seem to boot at all here (LED stays red) |
| 13:45.53 | RP | reenoo: I got an image from rwhitby which worked fine but mine built at the same time doesn't work. I've not had a chance to debug it |
| 13:46.13 | RP | Hopefully if I can get something else I've been working on out the way, I might find some time to debug these things :) |
| 13:47.46 | reenoo | yah, I'd solder on a max232, but the slug isn't quite ours yet |
| 13:48.02 | RP | reenoo: Its also 3.3V ;-) |
| 13:55.42 | hrw | cu |
| 13:56.32 | reenoo | RP: well, at least I'd need to solder on some wires. |
| 13:56.39 | reenoo | later hrw|afk |
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| 14:00.23 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r43c781ec... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: delete package in do_clean |
| 14:01.49 | reenoo | later all |
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| 14:50.23 | Jshanab | Does anyone know how I turn off or select a different config for the kernel. When I build it pulls in the abi-kernel. I was told that won't work with familiar(but it is the one pulling it in) |
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| 14:58.04 | Hrw|husky | hi |
| 14:58.17 | Hrw|husky | gpe gaim this time |
| 14:58.47 | univac | :) |
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| 15:21.11 | hrw | re |
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| 15:24.07 | hrw | hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/native/tmp/TEST$ ./usr/bin/vim --version |
| 15:24.07 | hrw | VIM - Vi IMproved 6.4 (2005 Oct 15, compiled Jun 4 2006 17:23:06) |
| 15:24.07 | hrw | Compiled by hrw@bitbake |
| 15:24.21 | hrw | build with MACHINE='native' works again |
| 15:24.39 | hrw | re koen |
| 15:24.51 | koen | hey hrw |
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| 15:29.05 | hrw | hi drw |
| 15:29.17 | drw | hi hrw |
| 15:30.53 | hrw | MACHINE="native" works again. Marcos will be able to develop OPIE/GPE on desktop. |
| 15:31.21 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r21979c8b... 10/packages/mc/mc_4.6.0.bb: mc: we use ncurses - so let it be set (to not fetch slang) |
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| 16:24.46 | hrw | cu |
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| 17:18.50 | hrw | re |
| 17:24.10 | hrw | 'http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/02/legendary-computer-scientist-alan-kotok-has-died/' |
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| 17:26.06 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 17:26.12 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 17:26.39 | woglinde | koen why arent you at pink pop? |
| 17:26.41 | woglinde | *g* |
| 17:27.01 | koen | pinkpop is too *cough* commercial *cough* |
| 17:27.17 | koen | and I didn't have time to work there |
| 17:27.59 | woglinde | koen *g* |
| 17:29.02 | eFfeM | koen: you could have taken your laptop there and they undoubtly will have gprs ... |
| 17:29.21 | woglinde | yes and watsching the livestream |
| 17:29.22 | woglinde | lol |
| 17:29.23 | koen | eFfeM: maybe all those mountains would block the signal ;) |
| 17:29.33 | eFfeM | lol, mountains |
| 17:29.53 | eFfeM | anyone an idea why I get this: |
| 17:29.54 | eFfeM | ../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c: In function 'raise': |
| 17:29.54 | eFfeM | ../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:32: error: '__pthread_raise' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 17:30.13 | eFfeM | trying to compile glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6 with gcc 4.1.1 |
| 17:31.11 | koen | maybe a --without-__thread? |
| 17:31.26 | koen | I never tried to compile glibc 2.3.x with 4.1.1 |
| 17:32.25 | eFfeM | should I go for 2.4 ? |
| 17:32.31 | eFfeM | the gcc bb has --disable-threads |
| 17:35.52 | hrw | eFfeM: glibc 2.4 req kernel 2.6 (but you probably has it) |
| 17:36.07 | eFfeM | hrw, tnx, yes I am at 2.6.16 |
| 17:37.01 | eFfeM | by the way, why is bitbake nowadays parsing all bb files and not only the ones in my .conf file ? |
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| 17:40.13 | eFfeM | lost with glibc 2.4, if I set PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.4" in my conf file and do a bb glibc, I get: "NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available" although there is a glibc_24.bb... |
| 17:40.48 | eFfeM | do I need to edit/add something somewere else ???? |
| 17:41.23 | eFfeM | or is this in glibc_2.4.bb the bad guy: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 17:44.00 | sdjf | _bambam: is that the_grinder bam? |
| 17:48.27 | hrw | afk |
| 17:48.54 | sdjf | that means nope? |
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| 18:20.53 | _stalker_ | hi all |
| 18:21.02 | _stalker_ | can anyone help with oe? |
| 18:21.16 | _stalker_ | I managed to compile an entire Opie image |
| 18:21.26 | _stalker_ | but the root-fs populating step went wrong |
| 18:21.46 | _stalker_ | it seems ipkg got a segfault (?!) |
| 18:22.33 | _stalker_ | any advice? |
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| 18:41.50 | emte | eFfeM, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" means the meta file is broken and bad things will happen if you use it including leaving the bitbake buildsystem and mangling host system files |
| 18:42.28 | emte | which in the case of glibc is extreamly bad |
| 18:44.56 | zecke | emte: no |
| 18:45.03 | zecke | it does not mean it is broken |
| 18:45.27 | zecke | just not considered stable enough, even if it has the higher version |
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| 18:47.00 | emte | hmm, it has always been my impression that it ment they were broken |
| 18:47.21 | _stalker_ | can anyone help me with this: |
| 18:47.22 | _stalker_ | NOTE: package opie-image-1.0-r21: task do_rootfs: started |
| 18:47.23 | _stalker_ | ERROR: function do_rootfs failed |
| 18:47.30 | florian | hi all |
| 18:48.06 | emte | but i'll keep it in mind now |
| 18:48.49 | _bambam | _stalker_: isn't there a log ouput, where the failure is described? |
| 18:49.47 | pb_ | hi florian |
| 18:49.56 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 18:50.28 | _stalker_ | _bambam: o'course |
| 18:50.38 | _stalker_ | home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/work/ipaq-pxa270-linux-gnueabi/opie-image-1.0-r21/temp/run.do_rootfs.5021: line 457: 23204 Erreur de segmentation ipkg-cl -f /home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/work/ipaq-pxa270-linux-gnueabi/opie-image-1.0-r21/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap task-opie-base task-opie-base-applets task-opie-base-inputmethods task-opie-base-apps task-opie-b |
| 18:50.45 | _stalker_ | sorry for the trace |
| 18:50.49 | _stalker_ | Erreur de |
| 18:50.50 | _stalker_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.03 | _stalker_ | seems ipkg segfaults, doesn't it? |
| 18:51.12 | emte | bitbake* |
| 18:51.20 | _bambam | _stalker_: seems like |
| 18:51.33 | _stalker_ | should I compile another version of it? |
| 18:51.38 | _bambam | _stalker_: for postin jus use pastebin in future ;) |
| 18:51.40 | _stalker_ | is it worthy? |
| 18:51.48 | _stalker_ | allright,sorry |
| 18:52.22 | _bambam | _stalker_: might be a solution |
| 18:52.38 | _bambam | _stalker_: or if it's not workin at all, try it with dpkg |
| 18:52.58 | zecke | _stalker_: ipkg doesn't like '-' in the path name |
| 18:54.16 | _stalker_ | and how could I switch from ipkg to dpkg? |
| 18:54.38 | zecke | _stalker_: writing a package_deb.bblcass |
| 18:54.39 | _bambam | zecke: didn't had any problems related path names here |
| 18:54.59 | zecke | _stalker_: and a rootfs_deb.bbclass |
| 18:55.06 | zecke | _bambam: believe me, or don't do it |
| 18:55.31 | _bambam | _stalker_: for i in $(ls tmp/deploy/ipk/*.ipk); do dpkg --extract $i <your_rootfs>; done |
| 18:55.52 | _stalker_ | allright |
| 18:56.09 | zecke | zap and ignore_list++ |
| 18:57.41 | _bambam | zecke: jus yesterday e-image-core build fine on "open-ezx" ;) |
| 18:58.03 | zecke | _bambam: well, I have seen 4 crashes from four different people... |
| 18:58.30 | zecke | _bambam: not each memory violation leads to a segfault |
| 18:58.40 | _bambam | zecke: k |
| 18:58.54 | zecke | _bambam: and I'm pretty sure _stalker doesn't wan't each and every glibc locale package in his rootfs... |
| 18:59.35 | _bambam | zecke: it was jus an solution if anyting else won't work |
| 18:59.45 | _stalker_ | zecke: yep :) |
| 19:03.07 | zecke | _stalker_: we would be interested in proper dpkg and deb support |
| 19:03.31 | zecke | _stalker_: http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 |
| 19:03.36 | zecke | I think was the crash |
| 19:04.29 | zecke | _stalker_: we need to wait for the release of this ipkg release |
| 19:06.02 | _stalker_ | thx for the url |
| 19:06.05 | _stalker_ | i give a look |
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| 19:10.28 | _stalker_ | zecke: actual version of ipkg in oe is 0.99.154, isn't it? |
| 19:10.43 | _stalker_ | it seems I'll have to wait for a while... |
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| 19:17.59 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 19:23.29 | koen | mr_nice: could you update opensimpad.org to point to www.openembedded.org instead of the now defunct oe.hh.org? |
| 19:24.01 | *** topic/#oe by koen -> OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | BitBake 1.4.2 has been released - only use HEAD if you are developing it | this is still not a distribution support channel | www.openembedded.org |
| 19:25.12 | mr_nice | koen: no problem - mom |
| 19:25.41 | eFfeM | emte: zecke, thanks for the info (was suddenly called away, now reading the backlog) |
| 19:32.19 | mr_nice | koen: ok it is done |
| 19:32.27 | koen | mr_nice: thanks |
| 19:32.33 | mr_nice | koen: no problem |
| 19:33.14 | mr_nice | koen: if you have any suggestions just told me about them. there is also a test page now test.opensimpad.org |
| 19:35.33 | florian | hi mr_nice |
| 19:35.50 | mr_nice | florion:hi |
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| 19:41.18 | _bambam | what i really miss in oe is option --fetchonly |
| 19:41.56 | XorA|gone | _bambam: btbake -c fetch |
| 19:42.03 | XorA|gone | bitbake -c fetch |
| 19:42.18 | Skyhusker | hi |
| 19:42.54 | _bambam | XorA|gone: oh, thanks, i must have missed this |
| 19:45.14 | koen | hey Skyhusker |
| 19:45.20 | Skyhusker | hey koen |
| 19:46.43 | CIA-9 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rfc6d9e15... 10/packages/gcc/ (gcc-4.1.1/armeb-fix.patch gcc-cross_4.1.1.bb gcc_4.1.1.bb): gcc 4.1.1: added patch for big endian |
| 19:47.06 | hrw | re |
| 19:47.16 | koen | hrw: wb |
| 19:50.34 | Skyhusker | hey hrw |
| 19:51.06 | hrw | building kopete 0.12 is... |
| 19:55.40 | univac | in what package of ppp-* is `pppstats`? |
| 19:55.54 | univac | ppp-tools? |
| 19:55.59 | koen | univac: check the .bb |
| 19:56.03 | hrw | ~lart kopete jingle support |
| 19:56.26 | univac | i have't oe tree ;[ |
| 19:56.53 | hrw | univac: then check feed/base/Packages.filelist of your OZ distro |
| 19:56.58 | koen | univac: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ppp/ppp_2.4.3.bb |
| 19:57.08 | univac | thx. |
| 19:59.47 | univac | FILES_ppp-tools = "/usr/sbin/pppstats /usr/sbin/pppdump" |
| 19:59.48 | univac | :) |
| 20:00.26 | univac | wants* |
| 20:00.28 | univac | w00t |
| 20:02.49 | koen | hrw: one like this: http://cgi.ebay.nl/HP-iPAQ-h2210-Pocket-PC_W0QQitemZ9732420939QQcategoryZ8131QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ? |
| 20:03.11 | hrw | yep |
| 20:03.28 | hrw | pda which IS pda |
| 20:03.42 | koen | a hx2750 would be nice |
| 20:03.46 | koen | 128mb ram :) |
| 20:03.58 | hrw | not clamshell which need to be opened before use, which need several seconds to be reacting... etc |
| 20:04.02 | univac | mhm |
| 20:04.05 | univac | 320x240 |
| 20:04.24 | hrw | koen: someone from TX, usa want to exchange hx2755 to clamshell |
| 20:04.58 | hrw | univac: also bt/wifi/pxa27x 624MHz |
| 20:05.29 | univac | nice, but to small |
| 20:05.39 | univac | i want clamshell :) |
| 20:05.41 | koen | hp stopped making the 2750 models |
| 20:05.50 | koen | they only have 64mb ram models now |
| 20:06.26 | hrw | univac: you have crap^Wcollie now? |
| 20:06.38 | univac | no, h3870 |
| 20:06.43 | Skyhusker | koen: does the integrated wireless chipset in the hx4700 support monitor mode? |
| 20:06.57 | koen | Skyhusker: probably not |
| 20:07.05 | koen | Skyhusker: they just got it working :) |
| 20:07.26 | Skyhusker | koen: i meant if you know is the hardware is capable ;) |
| 20:07.41 | Skyhusker | ouch |
| 20:07.41 | Skyhusker | s/is/if/ |
| 20:07.53 | Skyhusker | the atmel in the h5550 can't work in monitor mode |
| 20:07.55 | hrw | Skyhusker: check acx100 chipset status? |
| 20:10.04 | Skyhusker | hrw: checking acx100.sf.net now :) |
| 20:10.09 | univac | emacs! |
| 20:10.28 | Skyhusker | zecke: are you working on something for Mac OS? |
| 20:11.04 | hrw | univac: GVim! |
| 20:11.11 | univac | too |
| 20:11.25 | zecke | starting to use a real IDE |
| 20:11.30 | zecke | ... |
| 20:11.39 | hrw | zecke: Western Digital Raptor? |
| 20:11.47 | zecke | after 5,6,7,10,15... seconds I was about to go back to gvim |
| 20:11.58 | koen | zecke: the user manual is the second most visited page on the OE site |
| 20:13.42 | zecke | :} |
| 20:13.54 | zecke | I will be really, really busy the next two weeks |
| 20:14.01 | zecke | first exam... |
| 20:15.07 | koen | good luck |
| 20:15.22 | koen | I'm missing my exams due to the holiday |
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| 20:15.25 | hrw | zecke: we will check to not keep you here |
| 20:15.32 | koen | so I have to do 7 exams in august |
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| 20:16.24 | zecke | koen: oh well... I have still many exams left |
| 20:16.29 | zecke | ~lart disabled people... |
| 20:16.49 | hrw | zecke: WAI 508? |
| 20:17.00 | zecke | WAI? |
| 20:17.06 | koen | hrw: so you are going to try beating zecke and me with getting filthy rich? |
| 20:17.23 | hrw | Web Accessibility Interface (disabled people) |
| 20:17.40 | hrw | koen: try? |
| 20:17.48 | zecke | hrw: no, just me... I take these classes and at the end of the term I'm too exhausted to get the exam |
| 20:18.03 | zecke | and enqueue them... just dequeue takes so freaking long :} |
| 20:18.04 | hrw | koen: time to get cash for amd64 switch etc.. |
| 20:18.21 | zecke | hrw: I have read a blog about NForce4/5 and AM2 |
| 20:18.46 | hrw | zecke: mine or other? |
| 20:18.53 | zecke | hrw: no |
| 20:19.09 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r49179f7a... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.15-hh1: add a patch to fix resume on h2200. |
| 20:19.09 | zecke | hrw: http://fflewddur.livejournal.com/285149.html |
| 20:19.21 | hrw | thx |
| 20:20.11 | koen | zecke: p.g.o? |
| 20:21.10 | zecke | yepp |
| 20:21.50 | koen | the binary sort bug was nice |
| 20:22.08 | zecke | koen: yes |
| 20:22.16 | zecke | koen: I hope to pass my exam bringing this information |
| 20:22.22 | zecke | "Algorithms and Programming" |
| 20:22.25 | koen | :) |
| 20:22.37 | zecke | "Show me a binary search in haskell and java" |
| 20:22.47 | zecke | "The broken one from your lecturer, or one that works?" |
| 20:22.52 | univac | haskell is nice :) |
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| 20:23.13 | zecke | univac: functional programming itself is nice |
| 20:23.44 | univac | ep |
| 20:23.46 | univac | y |
| 20:24.05 | hrw | zecke: I think that when I will finally afford amd64 such problems will get resolved (or VIA release am2 chipsets) |
| 20:24.18 | zecke | VIA? |
| 20:24.32 | hrw | I like via chipsets |
| 20:24.55 | hrw | all my PCs were VIA based |
| 20:25.12 | hrw | 1st: VIA KT133 + Duron 600 |
| 20:25.22 | univac | <- nforce |
| 20:25.25 | hrw | 2nd: VIA KT600 + AthlonXP 2200+ (1.8GHz) |
| 20:25.32 | hrw | 3rd: who knows.. |
| 20:25.34 | zecke | I hate nvidia |
| 20:25.47 | univac | why? |
| 20:25.53 | koen | I hate nvidia for buying mediaq and taking the docs offilne |
| 20:25.55 | zecke | they killed vodoo |
| 20:26.01 | zecke | and mediaq |
| 20:26.03 | univac | bettter than ati :) |
| 20:26.27 | hrw | I do not hate them - hate is opposite to love. I prefer to ignore them (but I use mx440 agp here) |
| 20:26.52 | koen | and I dislike nvidia for thei crappy filters |
| 20:27.14 | univac | i have some old matrox cards :) |
| 20:27.17 | hrw | zecke: for me VIA chipsets are best supported now |
| 20:27.21 | univac | g200, g400 .. |
| 20:27.30 | hrw | I use matrox g450 at work, used g400 at home |
| 20:27.46 | koen | too bad my powerbook has this crappy nvidia chip... |
| 20:28.03 | hrw | koen: kip it off and use usb gfx card |
| 20:28.17 | univac | :) |
| 20:28.17 | hrw | koen: of pcmcia -> cf and cf-xga superhiper card |
| 20:28.30 | koen | pcmcia? |
| 20:28.42 | univac | it sucks ;p |
| 20:28.43 | hrw | koen: usb -> pcmcia -> cf then |
| 20:29.00 | koen | :) |
| 20:29.24 | hrw | I was 'debugging' my app for cfxga card but never ever seen that card or output from it |
| 20:29.39 | hrw | /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload ./historyviewer.ui | /usr/bin/perl -pi -e "s,public QWizard,public KWizard,g; s,#include <qwizard.h>,#include <kwizard.h>,g" >> historyviewer.h ; |
| 20:29.46 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.51 | hrw | so called 'KDE love' |
| 20:30.14 | univac | kde > gnome |
| 20:30.16 | univac | :) |
| 20:31.13 | hrw | univac: I want desktop which does not need 'registry editor' to be properly configured |
| 20:31.36 | univac | FVWM! |
| 20:32.41 | mr_nice | zecke: if you have some time - could you please give me a short overview about the SIMpad Kernel 2.6 so I can upload it to opensimpad.org? Did Guylhem succeded in contacting you? |
| 20:32.50 | zecke | no |
| 20:33.14 | zecke | mr_nice: pretty much unchanged, for some weeks |
| 20:33.17 | hrw | univac: wmaker + hacked rox-filer |
| 20:33.21 | zecke | mr_nice: mcp/ucb works thanks to pavel |
| 20:33.33 | zecke | mr_nice: mq200 works on the mediaq I have |
| 20:34.56 | mr_nice | zecke: what are the parts which are not working. how willing people could contact you to help. |
| 20:35.52 | mr_nice | zecke:who else is working on 2.6 series? |
| 20:36.51 | hrw | cu |
| 20:39.04 | zecke | mr_nice: SA11x0 USB client, mq200 only works for me, I have not tested sound at all |
| 20:39.32 | zecke | mr_nice: next two weeks, I will have no spare time at all |
| 20:41.12 | mr_nice | zecke:don't missunderstand me I only wanted to know about the things and report on opensimpad.org I don't want to push you |
| 20:42.44 | zecke | mr_nice: oh, I did not understand it this way |
| 20:43.08 | zecke | mr_nice: I have a semi public git tree for the SIMpad, it just takes a couple of 'days' finding time to work on it |
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| 20:44.24 | mr_nice | zecke: can I write on the page that if someone is intrested in SIMpad kernel hackin he could contact you over this irc channel? |
| 20:44.39 | zecke | mr_nice: sure |
| 20:45.35 | zecke | cya later guys |
| 20:45.37 | mr_nice | zecke: thx |
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| 21:58.48 | mr_nice | good night cya |
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| 22:17.09 | jnc | eek, my borzoi isn't doing the D+B thing :( |
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| 22:41.04 | jnc | found out why. jogwheel stuck in |
| 22:41.17 | jnc | popped it out, now service linux boot is working |
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| 23:04.35 | zecke | CoreDump|home: ping |
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| 23:09.55 | zecke | pb__: did you ever play with 'vm_swappiness'. Does it change the performance of GPE/X11 on devices with 'little' RAM? |
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| 23:27.14 | jnc | wpa_supplicant is useless as included with OZ 3.5.4.1-test/rc4, why even bother including it? |
| 23:28.39 | jnc | also hh.org bugzilla should upgrade to at least version 2.22 |
| 23:28.47 | jnc | searching for bugs is broken before 2.22 |
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| 23:32.28 | Harvy | does anybody know whilst trying to do a build it looks for /home/repvik ..? |
| 23:32.58 | emte | jnc, conciddering recent developments you shouldpost that in the familiar channel or atleast hhkernel |
| 23:33.05 | emte | concidering* |
| 23:33.17 | emte | altho france might read it in here as well |
| 23:33.35 | emte | Harvy, it looks for whatever you set it to |
| 23:36.58 | Harvy | but I do not have a /home it is mounted elsewhere |
| 23:37.09 | Harvy | the error is |
| 23:38.29 | Harvy | the path does not exist |
| 23:43.33 | zecke | nite guys |
| 23:44.51 | Harvy | i will will try again in a few days when i get my new slug |
| 23:46.00 | Harvy | i have been told that bitbake doesnt work on amd64 so guess ill have to wate |
| 23:48.16 | likewise | Harvy: huh? bitbake works here on amd64. |
| 23:49.06 | likewise | Harvy: but AMD64 in general tends to have a few uncovered bugs everywhere. I could succesfully build two distro's with it. |
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| 23:50.57 | Harvy | likewise: I am trying to build for a ipaq 2110 and was told that it wouldnt work |
| 23:51.16 | Harvy | so I got a couple of slugs |
| 23:51.34 | likewise | Harvy: A slug as the build machine? |
| 23:51.45 | likewise | Harvy: or as a target? |
| 23:52.43 | Harvy | as a build machine seems to work better than my laptop !! |
| 23:53.57 | likewise | Harvy: ok, I am building OpenSlug (and similar IXP4xx targets) and Cirrus ARM9 targets fine from my AMD64 machine. |
| 23:54.16 | likewise | HArvy: but maybe the ipaq 2110 distro hits on a specific bug. |
| 23:56.07 | rwhitby | A slug as a build machine for another device? How masochistic :-) |
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