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| 00:13.20 | v8jlene | Why do I get "ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libz1" for something that has RDEPENDS="python-compression"... and why if I remove the rdepends, build, add the rdepends back I no longer get the error ;( |
| 00:47.33 | emte | because it caches it |
| 00:48.41 | emte | and i suspect python-compression redepends on zlib |
| 00:48.59 | emte | which is a compression library |
| 00:52.15 | v8jlene | emte: Yes, python-compression RDEPENDS on libz1. I think zlib should have an RPROVIDES libz1, which it currently doesn't. |
| 00:52.59 | emte | who is zlibs maintainer? |
| 00:53.29 | v8jlene | MAINTAINER = "Chris Larson <kergoth@handhelds.org>" |
| 00:54.13 | kergoth | it does not need an RPROVIDES. thats all automatic |
| 00:54.20 | kergoth | the problem isnt likely to be with the zlib .bb, but elsewhere |
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| 00:58.18 | v8jlene | kergoth: If I put RDEPENDS = "libz1" in a recipe then I get "ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libz1". Should this RDEPENDS be something else? |
| 00:58.27 | emte | i suspect that your probably not building a v1 xlib |
| 00:58.33 | emte | zlib* |
| 00:59.33 | v8jlene | emte: The ipkg's are there - even building all the zlibs recipe manually doesn't change this issue... |
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| 01:10.45 | emte | what versions tho |
| 01:12.18 | emte | as well you should note that making an ipkg is not the same as being staged |
| 01:13.25 | kergoth | v8jlene, RDEPENDS get added automatically. you dont have to add that at all. |
| 01:14.11 | v8jlene | emte: Yeah, I'm release that. Note that this is just a runtime dependency, everything actually builds and works fine if I remove it - except I need to manually install python-compression then... |
| 01:16.10 | v8jlene | kergoth: Yeah, I know that's what's meant to happen ;) I'm trying to figure out why it isn't and/or what's wrong with it... |
| 01:17.47 | emte | i am curious, why are you specifying an rdepends if you actually rdepend on python-compression? |
| 01:17.58 | emte | rdepends for zlib* |
| 01:17.59 | v8jlene | If I take a package, lets says nano for example, and add RDEPENDS="libz1" then you get "ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libz1". |
| 01:18.52 | v8jlene | emte: I RDEPENDS python-compression, python-compression RDEPENDS python-zlib and python-zlib RDEPENDS libz1 |
| 01:18.57 | kergoth | why are you adding RDEPENDS=libz1? you should not be. |
| 01:19.24 | v8jlene | kergoth: I'm not, that's python-zlib. That was one of my questions, is python-zlib wrong? |
| 01:19.57 | kergoth | hard to say. is your ipk actually named libz1, or is it named zlib1g? |
| 01:20.23 | v8jlene | libz1_1.2.3-r0_sh4.ipk |
| 01:20.29 | kergoth | no idea then. |
| 01:20.33 | emte | the ipkg is named libz1 but i think it actually provides libz.so.1 |
| 01:20.59 | kergoth | doesnt matter |
| 01:21.01 | emte | lookint at my system that is what i expect |
| 01:21.16 | emte | ah |
| 01:21.20 | emte | anyway bbiab |
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| 01:43.05 | v8jlene | kergoth: Would removing libz1 from python-zlib RDEPENDS be the correct fix? The python-zlib.shlibdeps is automatically getting a "libz1 (>= 1.2.3)" entry, so there should be no need to try and explicitly declare that dependency? And nothing else explicitly RDEPEDS on libz1. |
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| 04:02.06 | jnc | i missed what was said to me when i went afk :/ |
| 05:03.15 | emte | jnc, was probably me talking about gcc 4.1.1 |
| 05:03.26 | jnc | ah okay. sorry i missed that then |
| 05:03.27 | jnc | thanks emte |
| 05:04.35 | emte | someone was using it, complaining that only 4.1.1 was working for them |
| 05:07.28 | emte | ah, the sh4 guys |
| 05:09.49 | emte | and it seems TheCAn was trying to use it as well |
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| 05:29.36 | nemu | does anybody know how to solve following problem ? |
| 05:29.43 | nemu | NOTE: multiple providers are available (handhelds-sa, linux-openzaurus, gumstix, linux-efika, linux-amsdelta-2.6, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, opensimpad, linux-h6300-omap1, linux-omap1, corgi-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-geodegx, poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-h1940, ipod, linux-omap-2.6, mnci-ramses, handhelds-pxa-2.6, husky-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-geodelx, linux-xxs1500, LAB-kernel, handhelds-sa-2.6, handhelds-pxa, linux-bast, op |
| 05:31.02 | nemu | i have a SL-C6000L. i wrote on build/local.conf. MACHINE = "tosa" TARGET_OS = "linux" DISTRO = "openzaurus" DISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.4" |
| 05:33.08 | emte | use the correct branch? |
| 05:33.21 | nemu | vanille.de :) |
| 05:33.43 | emte | .oz354 |
| 05:33.59 | nemu | monotone --db=/stuff/OE.db pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.dev |
| 05:34.03 | emte | i think is it's name |
| 05:34.16 | emte | yes, i suspected as much |
| 05:34.45 | emte | you need the branch with the actual oz version info |
| 05:35.42 | nemu | :) i don't know what u mean. change from org.openembedded.dev to org.openembedded.oz354 ? |
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| 05:36.17 | emte | yes |
| 05:36.24 | emte | or atleat both |
| 05:36.37 | nemu | atleat ? |
| 05:36.46 | emte | atleast |
| 05:37.35 | nemu | one is database name:) what is the second ? DISTRO_VERSION ? |
| 05:38.11 | emte | distro version is just that |
| 05:38.19 | emte | the version of the distro you want to build |
| 05:38.30 | emte | it looks in conf/distro for it's metafile |
| 05:38.41 | emte | which you dont have because your not using the right branch |
| 05:38.53 | nemu | :) |
| 05:38.57 | nemu | yeah |
| 05:40.28 | nemu | does i have to change "directory name/path" |
| 05:40.57 | emte | no |
| 05:41.09 | emte | you can just change your extension i belive |
| 05:41.10 | nemu | for example , BBFILES |
| 05:41.19 | emte | in your monotone pull |
| 05:42.21 | emte | monotone --db=/stuff/OE.db pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.oz345 |
| 05:42.28 | nemu | ok :) |
| 05:42.35 | nemu | i execute that now! |
| 05:43.00 | emte | you should ask someone that uses oz what the right name is tho |
| 05:43.09 | emte | i am guessing |
| 05:43.23 | emte | if it works i lucked out |
| 05:43.23 | nemu | tho ? |
| 05:43.35 | emte | though |
| 05:44.17 | nemu | i am not know the jargon,well :) sorry |
| 05:44.52 | emte | just shorthand slang |
| 05:45.34 | nemu | slang :) ic |
| 05:46.40 | nemu | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/DevelopmentBranches <- can i solve this problem using this URL ? |
| 05:50.17 | emte | yup |
| 05:50.33 | emte | you want oz345x |
| 05:50.41 | nemu | :) yeah |
| 05:51.58 | nemu | thank u for ur answer :) |
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| 08:03.42 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:05.15 | koen | hey hrw|work |
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| 08:13.03 | koen | hrw|work: google analytics is already working :) |
| 08:13.09 | hrw|work | cool |
| 08:13.29 | XorA | morning |
| 08:13.55 | koen | hey XorA |
| 08:15.41 | hrw|work | koen: do you know who else want/should get access to stats? |
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| 08:17.50 | koen | hrw|work: mickeyl or the person who's going to volunteer for site maintenance :) |
| 08:19.34 | hrw|work | koen: for site maintenance it would be best to sign for separate account at G-A. I prefer to not create second admin user on my account as there is no way to create admin for separate projects. |
| 08:20.05 | koen | true |
| 08:21.52 | koen | ~change 800 bdn to eur |
| 08:22.06 | koen | hmmm |
| 08:22.46 | koen | ~change 800 bbd to eur |
| 08:23.05 | koen | that makes more sense |
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| 08:55.16 | __law__ | Hi XorA |
| 08:56.01 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 08:56.06 | koen | ehm __law__ |
| 08:57.24 | __law__ | XorA, have you tried to build oz (oz354x) in the last few days? |
| 08:58.19 | XorA | __law__: no, I never use branch |
| 09:00.03 | __law__ | XorA, .dev? |
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| 09:02.20 | koen | XorA: with Mardy's w100 stuff? |
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| 09:19.09 | XorA | koen: is that in? |
| 09:19.47 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2a0708b8... 10/packages/bluez/bluez-utils.inc: bluez-utils: apply 0x0,0x0 -> bcps patch for all distributions |
| 09:19.51 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * raac02cf2... 10/conf/distro/ (generic-uclibc.conf generic.conf): |
| 09:19.51 | CIA-9 | generic(-uclibc).conf: add 'reference' distribution configuration |
| 09:19.51 | CIA-9 | this should serve as a starting point for people adding new models and |
| 09:19.51 | CIA-9 | new distributions. It should always be buildable, so please use it for |
| 09:19.52 | CIA-9 | regression tests and keep it up to date! Be sure to comment everything you add. |
| 09:20.47 | koen | hey mickeyl|breakfas |
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| 09:40.09 | zecke | hey |
| 09:44.43 | koen | hey zecke |
| 09:45.07 | zecke | moin |
| 09:45.11 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/images/graph0.png |
| 09:45.18 | koen | I love the new graph generator |
| 09:45.58 | zecke | hehe |
| 09:46.08 | zecke | there is a dot bug? the text is not fitting in the node |
| 09:46.21 | hrw|work | nice |
| 09:46.22 | koen | or a "fonts suck on linux" bug |
| 09:46.35 | zecke | koen: I don't know if I wanto to create bitsearch or bitbake -S |
| 09:46.37 | koen | that's from the packaged-staging branch, btw |
| 09:47.22 | zecke | koen: when will you leave again? |
| 09:47.34 | koen | 20060607 |
| 09:47.40 | koen | http://oe.pastebin.com/744432 |
| 09:47.48 | zecke | oh okay |
| 09:54.06 | zecke | Eye Cancer |
| 10:00.32 | zecke | so many bad coders around |
| 10:02.03 | zecke | http://oe.pastebin.com/744449 <- morons |
| 10:03.46 | XorA | zecke: maybe win32 has a magic lldiv :-) |
| 10:04.01 | koen | zecke: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/glibc-no-isystem.patch |
| 10:04.08 | koen | zecke: is that correct? |
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| 10:04.58 | zecke | XorA: everytime I review the changes from one version to another, I feel like writing an email: "What is wrong with you? Stop coding!" |
| 10:05.55 | zecke | #ifdef WIN32 ULONGLONG par #else unsigned long long par; #ifdef WIN32 ULONLONG otherpar #else unsigned long long otherpar; #endif |
| 10:06.18 | zecke | koen: could be |
| 10:06.30 | zecke | koen: is only glibc2.4 broken? |
| 10:06.44 | zecke | koen: and I hope no update_data has been called |
| 10:06.56 | zecke | oh well, it is okay (regarding CPPFLAGFS) |
| 10:07.18 | XorA | zecke: thats appalling, shows a total lack of understanding of either C or WIN32 or probably both |
| 10:07.56 | zecke | XorA: typedef! *morons* :} |
| 10:08.29 | zecke | there are two GPL FLUTE implementations and both suck |
| 10:08.37 | zecke | but I lack the time to write my own :} |
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| 10:37.58 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r36ed964e... 10/ (18 files in 4 dirs): Remove unused stuff and poke at the tarballstash |
| 10:38.02 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r094a3ed8... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.4.bb: glibc 2.4: hopefully solve the do_stage loop |
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| 10:54.10 | hrw|work | if package provide *.pc then 'inherit pkgconfig'. if it contain PN-config then 'inherit binconfig' - what if it provide both? and should PN-config be in -dev or in PN? |
| 10:55.43 | koen | -dev |
| 10:58.53 | hrw|work | it will stay in PN :( bitbake ignore my FILES_${PN}-dev =+ "${bindir}/cherokee-config" |
| 10:59.12 | hrw|work | or += |
| 11:09.34 | koen | it doesn't ignore it, the file is already gone into ${PN} |
| 11:09.55 | hrw|work | and we do not have -= |
| 11:12.32 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb7c245fc... 10/packages/cherokee/cherokee_0.5.3.bb: cherokee: granular packaging, enabled PARALLEL_MAKE |
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| 11:18.02 | hrw|work | hi schurig |
| 11:18.09 | schurig | Hi! |
| 11:18.15 | hrw|work | ~seen cbrake |
| 11:18.23 | ibot | cbrake <n=cbrake@cpe-65-25-51-117.neo.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 20h 3m 20s ago, saying: 'hrw: hello'. |
| 11:18.39 | hrw|work | schurig: do you know does Agere cards are supported under 2.6 in some way? |
| 11:18.51 | schurig | hrw|work: not really, but I wrote a patch |
| 11:19.04 | schurig | hrw|work: We've told about this some weeks ago, did you forget? |
| 11:19.18 | hrw|work | schurig: ah.. yes.. forgot a bit |
| 11:19.39 | schurig | I'm using the wlags 7.18 source code from their web page, I never got 7.22 working |
| 11:20.02 | schurig | this driver is in a VERY bad shape, from a kernel programmers perspective |
| 11:20.18 | schurig | several *.h files are a #define, #if #ifdef #ifndef hell, e.g. thousands of them |
| 11:20.42 | schurig | anyway, I mad some fixup patches, some "transfer the API to kernel 2.6" patches and one bugfix |
| 11:20.49 | hrw|work | ok - just wanted to be perfect sure - I had an offer to get wcf54g free to work on driver |
| 11:21.10 | schurig | however, it works now only for Kernel up to 2.6.15, 2.6.16-rcX changed the API and I haven't done that yet |
| 11:21.25 | hrw|work | ( |
| 11:21.27 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 11:22.15 | schurig | but the driver works, and it even works with wpa-supplicant (usnig my driver_hermes for it, but that is even in OE) |
| 11:23.47 | hrw|work | hermes2 support wpa1 iirc |
| 11:24.21 | schurig | hrw|work: yea, I'm using WPA-PSK. And I once used 802.1x EAP-TTLS. Both worked. |
| 11:25.17 | hrw|work | schurig: which recipe in OE contain your 2.6 version? |
| 11:26.54 | schurig | hrw|work: none, because I stopped putting things into OE when OE switched to monotone |
| 11:27.14 | schurig | the driver_hermes in wpa-supplicant is still from the old BitKeeper times |
| 11:28.55 | hrw|work | schurig: does your tree is available somewhere to look into? |
| 11:29.17 | schurig | no, it's in my company internal svn |
| 11:30.11 | schurig | I don't like the speed of monotone and don't need it's features, so I use something fast internal. And our customers can get a free CD with the sources, to fulfull the GPL That's my current workflow. |
| 11:31.06 | hrw|work | hopefully we will switch to 0.26+ monotone in next 1-2 months. it is totally different in speed |
| 11:33.27 | schurig | :-) |
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| 11:37.13 | Cobelius | hi |
| 11:37.34 | Cobelius | does somebody know a good example how to write post install scripts for the ipkg packages? |
| 11:37.50 | Cobelius | so some comands that will be executed after the installation? |
| 11:38.40 | hrw|work | after instalation == on host (during image creation) or on device (during first boot)? |
| 11:40.05 | Cobelius | well it should work on image creation and on installation of the package |
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| 11:42.18 | hrw|work | on instalation: opie-dasher |
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| 11:42.58 | hrw|work | on creation: update-rc.d.bbclass (also on install/remove) |
| 11:45.55 | Cobelius | okay |
| 11:45.59 | Cobelius | thank you |
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| 11:57.01 | Cobelius | how can i insert changed files into openembedded or can give you some files that are written by me? |
| 12:07.24 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:07.57 | hrw|work | Cobelius: use bugtracker |
| 12:08.15 | koen | 'monotone ls unknown' |
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| 12:43.45 | zecke | hey |
| 12:45.32 | koen | hey zecke |
| 12:53.29 | mickeyl | hi |
| 12:53.46 | mickeyl | i can't get around that 'preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available' bug |
| 12:53.58 | koen | join the club :) |
| 12:55.33 | zecke | mickeyl: in need for bitsearch? |
| 12:56.06 | mickeyl | zecke: hi. what's that? |
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| 12:56.21 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 12:57.05 | zecke | mickeyl: searching the MetaData |
| 12:57.19 | zecke | mickeyl: e.g. bitsearch versions ^glibc |
| 12:57.33 | mickeyl | zecke: sounds good. is this an imaginative tool or does it exist? :) |
| 12:57.50 | zecke | mickeyl: both |
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| 13:02.42 | zecke | taking a rest now, have been at the dentist (again) |
| 13:03.50 | mickeyl | although the shell seems to detect it |
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| 13:28.19 | mickeyl | NAbyss: yes, i still kind of maintain it. just update it |
| 13:28.23 | mickeyl | updated, even |
| 13:28.29 | _guillermo | how can I compile openzaurus 3.4.5.1 rc4? I set distro to 3.4.5.1 and only rc2 is compiled |
| 13:28.57 | hrw|work | _guillermo: you have too old metadata |
| 13:29.13 | XorA | koen: bitrotting in gpe cvs .bb recipes :-( |
| 13:29.16 | _guillermo | I just pull the oz354x branch |
| 13:29.25 | hrw|work | _guillermo: updated too? |
| 13:29.31 | emte | anyone know if any distro actually uses libiconv? i had forgotten all about it until somemone just emailed me asking questions. |
| 13:29.48 | mickeyl | all non-glibc distros are probably using it |
| 13:30.13 | emte | i thought kergoth fixed it to not use the external libiconv |
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| 13:30.37 | emte | i know it was for uclibc that i added it, but i do not belive it was used in th end |
| 13:31.04 | NAbyss | mickeyl: Ah, okies.. do you know if it's known to work at present? I'm not having any luck with it.. pondering chasing it up with the original authors if it's not a known bug for OE |
| 13:31.24 | mickeyl | NAbyss: it should work good with the outdated gpsd. it doesn't work with new gpsd |
| 13:31.44 | NAbyss | mickeyl: Ah, thanks.. shall chase it up with them then. |
| 13:31.54 | NAbyss | It finds the gpsd, just not the gps |
| 13:32.15 | mickeyl | NAbyss: ya, that looks like the usual symptom. the qpegps are too lazy to upgrade their gpsd interface to the new API |
| 13:32.44 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rbd96d83d... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: start merging with embworld-oe.dbk |
| 13:32.49 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1c17f3bc... 10/packages/qpegps/ (qpegps_0.9.2.3.bb qpegps_0.9.2.3.2.bb qpegps_0.9.2.3.3.bb): qpegps: add 0.9.2.3.3, remove 0.9.2.3 |
| 13:33.33 | NAbyss | mickeyl: Yeah.. I'm tempted to just hack on the source, see if I can get the bugger going |
| 13:34.38 | NAbyss | mickeyl: This's the bug I filed, just for an FYI.. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1496428&group_id=55933&atid=478750 |
| 13:35.05 | mickeyl | k |
| 13:37.26 | koen | mickeyl: http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2006/05/29/platform-integration-for-mobile-linux-devices/ |
| 13:37.34 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbed7a828... 10/packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.7.bb: libsoup: unbreak staging |
| 13:37.38 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9c65cea9... 10/packages/libeventdb/libeventdb_cvs.bb: libeventdb: update PV |
| 13:38.24 | mickeyl | koen: ah, good to know. |
| 13:39.15 | koen | XorA: it should be slightly less bitrotted now |
| 13:39.22 | koen | XorA: but feel free to fix up the rest |
| 13:42.58 | XorA | koen: cheers |
| 13:43.52 | XorA | koen: I assume all cvs ones should by ${lastest_PN}+cvs? |
| 13:45.00 | _guillermo | hrw|work: what do you mean with updated? I just pulled from monotone.vanille.de |
| 13:45.23 | mickeyl | did you update as well? mt pull != mt updaet |
| 13:45.25 | mickeyl | update, even |
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| 13:45.48 | _guillermo | ok, I gave that for granted, yes pulled and updated |
| 13:46.38 | hrw|work | _guillermo: then show us 'monotone head' |
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| 13:47.31 | koen | XorA: yes |
| 13:47.55 | XorA | koen: if I see them I shall fix |
| 13:49.05 | hrw|work | _guillermo: it should be: 3d1e1f913a72ee6bf1cc84e50aad725485c374b7 coredump@openembedded.org 2006-05-28T18:51:17 |
| 13:49.26 | hrw|work | _guillermo: if you have older then you need to pull/update again |
| 13:49.37 | _guillermo | fb1c641b14d25026a94209f0d0733758f2dcf2d8 koen@openembedded.org 2006-05-09T20:20:18 |
| 13:49.58 | hrw|work | _guillermo: nearly 3 weeks old?? its ANTIQUE... |
| 13:50.02 | hrw|work | not even old... |
| 13:50.30 | _guillermo | ok I'm missing something then, how should I update it? |
| 13:50.53 | hrw|work | _guillermo: monotone pull;monotone update |
| 13:51.04 | _guillermo | I did that 100 times already, really |
| 13:52.19 | hrw|work | _guillermo: then look at it output and do it 101st time |
| 13:52.44 | mickeyl | check the default pull and update arguments, you may have to add the corresponding branch. |
| 13:54.17 | _guillermo | aha |
| 13:55.11 | mickeyl | to be safe, pull "org.openembedded.*" |
| 13:55.29 | mickeyl | might recheckout the wanted branch instead of updating as well |
| 13:55.38 | hrw|work | I prefer "org.openembedded.{dev,oz354x}" in this moment |
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| 14:21.21 | schurig | mickeyl: does my old 2.4 kernel driver help you? |
| 14:21.25 | schurig | mickeyl: hi, btw :-) |
| 14:21.54 | mickeyl | hi |
| 14:22.22 | mickeyl | schurig: i can see how you did it, although i would've hoped it would be a bit more generic and seperated from the ramses_keyboard itself :) |
| 14:22.34 | schurig | mickeyl: hehe :-) |
| 14:22.38 | mickeyl | schurig: perhaps you could send me the 2.6.x driver when you have a chance |
| 14:22.39 | mickeyl | ? |
| 14:22.47 | schurig | mickeyl: that one is not more generic |
| 14:22.52 | mickeyl | yeah, but 2.6 :) |
| 14:23.08 | schurig | mickeyl: how would you make it more generic? |
| 14:23.35 | schurig | mickeyl: I put much things into tables. To set rows/get columns, you must be hardware specific, so here you cannot be generic |
| 14:24.38 | mickeyl | schurig: my approach would be just to send the keycodes like normal and have a layer on top and between the inputsubsystem that just translates them to characters |
| 14:24.47 | schurig | mickeyl: anyway, this driver is nice for some things, but, unlike a normal cell phone, you won't get any visual feedback. So probably you want to add a raw mode to it and implement this at a higher level. |
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| 14:25.05 | hrw|work | what driver you are talking about? |
| 14:25.17 | mickeyl | ya, perhaps rather a userland daemon via uinput |
| 14:25.29 | mickeyl | hrw|work: a keyboard driver for a keypad |
| 14:25.40 | mickeyl | like writing text on a phone |
| 14:26.05 | hrw|work | ah.. |
| 14:26.15 | hrw|work | 2=ABC 3=DEF 4=GHI etc |
| 14:26.16 | schurig | mickeyl: one part of my driver translates the x/y position of my keyboard grid into scancodes, the actual scancode->character translation then is the standard kernel one. So my driver emits "pc"-keyboard scancodes, despite working quite differently |
| 14:26.42 | schurig | mickeyl: but an uinput based daemon cannot provide feedback like a cell phone either |
| 14:26.59 | mickeyl | ya |
| 14:27.03 | mickeyl | that's the main problem |
| 14:27.32 | schurig | mickeyl: what I mean: with my driver, when you press <BLUE> 1 1, you won't see anything until a short timeout or you press <BLUE> again. On a cellphone, you would see the "b", but at the cursor position. |
| 14:28.17 | mickeyl | schurig: i see. guess i rather try to finish running opie on it ... |
| 14:28.31 | mickeyl | pure VT is not that useful on a phone |
| 14:28.49 | schurig | mickeyl: so the definite driver would be something like I have, to be able to use the Linux console as a last resort, but a raw/half-cooked mode in the driver where then an Qt/Opie keyboard driver or an X11 program can provide the cell phone like feedback. |
| 14:29.14 | schurig | mickeyl: yes, not very useful, but it was nice at implementation time and *IS* nice as a last resort in case of weird bugs |
| 14:29.31 | mickeyl | schurig: indeed. especially because we don't have serial on that phone. |
| 14:29.40 | mickeyl | (not without soldering) |
| 14:29.48 | schurig | mickeyl: how much is such a phone? |
| 14:30.28 | mickeyl | schurig: 450EUR new for the european gps model, ~380EUR for the non-gps, 280 on ebay |
| 14:30.49 | mickeyl | pretty expensive for a two year old phone, but having linux was just too tempting |
| 14:31.05 | schurig | hmm, my wife would not agree :-) |
| 14:31.16 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 14:31.38 | schurig | this month is a very expensive month for us :-) |
| 14:33.05 | schurig | mickeyl: but when it is two years old, then probably it is still one of those phones where the keyboard is still usable for normal fingered people? |
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| 14:34.09 | mickeyl | schurig: it is, although the keypad is a bit small. then again, you can use the touchscreen to dial as well. http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/motorola_a780.jpg |
| 14:36.46 | hrw|work | ah.. thats how keypad is made.. |
| 14:37.39 | hrw|work | cbrake_away: still want cherokee without ssl support? |
| 14:42.44 | mickeyl | l8er |
| 14:43.17 | hrw|work | cu mickeyl |
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| 15:28.14 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:28.19 | TheCan | hi |
| 15:32.11 | CoreDump|home | hmmm after setting up OE from scratch I'm getting "../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot represent machine `arm:collie'" on a .oz354x Collie image. Any ideas? |
| 15:35.48 | CoreDump|home | from glibc-intermediate that is |
| 15:38.00 | hrw|work | glibc-intermediate?? |
| 15:38.11 | hrw|work | OZ never needed it... |
| 15:38.25 | hrw|work | anyway I have to go (gym) |
| 15:38.48 | hrw|work | OT: I'm changing theme on my website: http://www.hrw.one.pl/ - critize it if you want |
| 15:39.34 | CoreDump|home | normal glibc failswith the same error |
| 15:46.05 | _guillermo | where can I get a database snapshot of oe? http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 is not working |
| 15:46.27 | koen | ~gettingstarted |
| 15:46.28 | ibot | rumour has it, gettingstarted is http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 15:48.18 | _guillermo | I was using a different wiki, sorry |
| 15:49.06 | _guillermo | wow, 1.2 M/s, I guess it's hosted in an uni or something |
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| 15:54.13 | lardman | hi guys |
| 15:54.36 | koen | hey lardman |
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| 15:59.23 | Genesis | bye |
| 16:02.36 | lardman | hi koen, how's things? |
| 16:02.57 | koen | lardman: pretty good |
| 16:03.24 | koen | cursing env vars right now |
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| 16:24.15 | koen | aha |
| 16:24.24 | koen | -monitoraspect 16:9 |
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| 16:26.40 | drnik | Does anyone know where Qtopia Desktop calendar files are stored? |
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| 16:45.45 | guylhem_ | hello - I have finished and tested 2 patches for 2.6.16 : |
| 16:45.59 | guylhem_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:46.28 | guylhem_ | (ie you can set the max clock depending on situation etc - no overclock by default, which IMHO makes it suitable for integration in the default kernel) |
| 16:46.46 | guylhem_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.14 | guylhem_ | who can I send them to ? [preferably someone who can test them] |
| 16:48.34 | zecke | guylhem_: the openzaurus kernel bb file lists RP and mickeyl as maintainers |
| 16:48.47 | zecke | guylhem_: and RP looks like a good choiche to me |
| 16:48.58 | zecke | IMHO we should never support overclock |
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| 16:56.06 | guylhem_ | zecke - it is an option that is not activated by default |
| 16:56.19 | zecke | guylhem_: users are... :) |
| 16:56.46 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r53a72fde... 10/packages/netbase/ (3 files in 3 dirs): netbase: add proper interfaces file for Motorola GSM Phones |
| 16:56.48 | guylhem_ | .... dumb :-) but it only offer the user the choice to manually set the max freq to 530 for the performance driver |
| 16:56.52 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re7d1a141... 10/packages/qte/ (6 files): qte(-mt): touchscreen works on Motorola EZX platform now |
| 16:57.03 | guylhem_ | zecke, do you have a c7x0 ? |
| 16:57.08 | zecke | guylhem_: no |
| 16:57.31 | zecke | guylhem_: I'm 'conversative' in allowing people to damage their hardware |
| 16:57.47 | zecke | guylhem_: but send them to RP and he will decide |
| 16:57.51 | guylhem_ | ok |
| 16:58.05 | guylhem_ | I'll also ask him why I have problems with the sound driver. |
| 16:58.37 | guylhem_ | I'm using http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/bbfiles/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb |
| 16:59.09 | guylhem_ | for some reason it gives: |
| 16:59.10 | guylhem_ | ALSA sound/core/pcm_lib.c:1839: BUG? ((max >= 0)) |
| 16:59.11 | guylhem_ | [<c0022fc8>] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [<bf02f11c>] (snd_pcm_hw_param_near+0x3)[<bf02edec>] (snd_pcm_hw_param_near+0x0/0x3a0 [snd_pcm]) from [<bf03a158>] (snd) |
| 16:59.14 | guylhem_ | (...) |
| 16:59.46 | zecke | guylhem_: RP and lrg are safe bets for help |
| 17:00.52 | lardman | zecke: A lot of users want to use overclocking |
| 17:01.13 | lardman | zecke: It needs to be an option |
| 17:01.22 | koen | a lot of people put animals in microwaves as well |
| 17:01.25 | zecke | lardman: Manually apply patch, flash would b mine |
| 17:01.28 | guylhem_ | yesterday talked about this, he said I may have a ram corruption problem, but I recompiled and uploaded new drivers - same error. Odds are against having the same corruption |
| 17:01.34 | lardman | guylhem_: Good work, people have also been asking for that single root partition |
| 17:01.50 | lardman | zecke: users! ;) |
| 17:01.51 | guylhem_ | happy to help. I'm not a big fan of oe, but I'll take time to learn. |
| 17:02.07 | zecke | lardman: users with special needs/wishes, need to do special things |
| 17:02.16 | guylhem_ | I feel like most of my work is currently wasted, while in oe it will help more people |
| 17:02.29 | zecke | lardman: e.g. I wish my display would be more bright |
| 17:02.37 | zecke | lardman: but there is a reason apple limited it, physics |
| 17:02.49 | zecke | :) |
| 17:02.55 | guylhem_ | next item on my list 640x352 video playback. currently exploring mplayer-w100 on a 2.6.16 |
| 17:03.08 | lardman | zecke: I understand what you say, but as long as there's a warning about it, we need it to compete with other 'distros' like pdaX |
| 17:03.28 | guylhem_ | lardman - you have a c7x0 ? |
| 17:03.35 | lardman | guylhem_: yes |
| 17:03.45 | guylhem_ | I'd like to send the patch to someone else for validation. Please send me your email to guylhem gmail.com |
| 17:04.03 | guylhem_ | I'll send you a binary of the kernel, the .config and the parts to change |
| 17:04.10 | guylhem_ | on your local sources. |
| 17:04.36 | lardman | guylhem_: You can send me the stuff by all means, but I won't have time to do anything until next week I'm afraid |
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| 17:05.34 | TheCan | anyone can tell me where in kernel config i can specify the init? |
| 17:06.11 | guylhem_ | no pb. at least someone else will have it |
| 17:07.05 | zecke | TheCan: CMDLINE |
| 17:07.11 | zecke | TheCan: CONFIG_CMDLINE |
| 17:07.18 | TheCan | zecke, thx! |
| 17:07.38 | lardman | guylhem_: sent |
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| 17:12.14 | likewise | koen: I got a gdk-pixbuf package ready if interested. |
| 17:13.22 | TheCan | zecke, i can?t find it :( my problem is i once had an busybox-based system now i want to switch to a normal debian and debian doesnt boot to the end because i get no console etc. as it doesnt find the init. any idea how i could fix this? i thought about a symlink but what did i have to symlink then? i think busybox uses /linuxrc for init.. |
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| 17:14.34 | zecke | TheCan: not enough input. Your kernel has a CMDLINE either given by a bootloader or compiled in (I do not even know your arch....) |
| 17:15.00 | zecke | TheCan: but the kernel (2.6er) has atleast three fallbacks overuling the init= param... |
| 17:15.11 | zecke | TheCan: more in init/main.c of your favorite kernel |
| 17:15.20 | TheCan | i386 - ah so there is some init= param maybe also worth a try |
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| 17:15.53 | guylhem_ | lardman : sent |
| 17:15.54 | TheCan | if i get this here: "init: Id "D1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 Minutes" did it already load init and i got a problem with getty etc. maybe? |
| 17:16.22 | koen | likewise: attach the package to the bugtracker and I'll have a look later this evening |
| 17:17.04 | likewise | koen: it's not much use without packages depending on gdk-pixbuf really. I have my own small tree of packages that does without X now. |
| 17:17.44 | koen | don't forget to add the appropriate RREPLACES to gtk+ |
| 17:17.56 | lardman | guylhem_: Thanks :), I'll take a look at it as soon as I can |
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| 17:25.10 | guylhem_ | could someone confirm me the .bb file that is used by 3.4.5.1 current to build the 2.6.16 kernel is identical to http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/bbfiles/stable ? |
| 17:25.19 | guylhem_ | I think it is missing a couple of patches |
| 17:25.56 | koen | check the branch |
| 17:26.03 | koen | everything is out in the open |
| 17:28.02 | koen | (in case of "oh noooos, monotone too hard, OMG LOL 1337" -> http://www.openembedded.org/repo/) |
| 17:29.26 | guylhem_ | koen, I must say that for the 1st time this is a helpful reply :-) |
| 17:29.39 | guylhem_ | found the bb there and yes it is different |
| 17:29.43 | guylhem_ | r33 vs r7 |
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| 17:43.39 | JustinP | guylhem_: RP tends to keep the kernel up to date in OE |
| 17:44.46 | guylhem_ | I didn't know :-/ |
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| 17:57.49 | lardman | bye chaps |
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| 18:08.00 | joshua_ | koen, do you have a page that the project proposal for the staging thing has been moved to? I was curious to see how it'd be implemented, and it looks like google made them no longer exist (at least on the public web page) |
| 18:09.40 | koen | joshua_: it's all at http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.packaged-staging :) |
| 18:10.52 | joshua_ | hmm.. do you still have a copy of the original proposal that you submitted? |
| 18:11.31 | koen | joshua_: http://oe.pastebin.com/745208 |
| 18:11.53 | joshua_ | excellent. do you have a wiki page for this set up yet? |
| 18:12.08 | koen | nope |
| 18:12.14 | koen | there's a readme in the branch |
| 18:12.33 | koen | and all the code is online for everyone to see |
| 18:12.41 | guylhem_ | any idea on how to get a tarball from http://atty.skr.jp/WebSVN/log.php?repname=mplayer-w100&path=%2Ftrunk%2F&sc=1 ? |
| 18:12.41 | joshua_ | I'm eagerly awaiting this... crosstooling and doing dev package install magic by hand for the powerpc boards sort of sucks |
| 18:13.18 | koen | guylhem_: why do you need a tarball? |
| 18:13.28 | joshua_ | koen, okay. might I recommend that you set up a status wiki page off of SummerOfCode so that people like me who aren't very familiar with OE/monotone can take a quick glance at what's going on? |
| 18:13.54 | koen | joshua_: I can't do that |
| 18:14.03 | joshua_ | oh, crap, I forgot |
| 18:14.10 | koen | joshua_: I'm forbidded to use any of hh.orgs services, remember |
| 18:14.37 | joshua_ | damnit. er, wanna email someone every so often who will update by proxy? |
| 18:15.20 | koen | I have other uses for my time |
| 18:15.43 | koen | _guillermo: can't you just use svn:// in the .bb? |
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| 18:16.50 | joshua_ | I think that everybody would find it very useful if you did. |
| 18:17.30 | koen | 20:12 < koen> there's a readme in the branch |
| 18:17.30 | koen | 20:12 < koen> and all the code is online for everyone to see |
| 18:17.44 | guylhem_ | koen : I am trying to compile the latest (1.1.6) to test if I can key a faster video playback on c70 with 2.6.16 |
| 18:17.50 | koen | and that's all I'm going to say about it |
| 18:18.22 | koen | guylhem_: did you see mardy's mail about kdrive-w100? |
| 18:18.27 | joshua_ | sigh... |
| 18:18.44 | guylhem_ | koen : got a pointer ? |
| 18:19.40 | koen | guylhem_: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/89/8945.html |
| 18:22.11 | guylhem_ | great news! |
| 18:26.07 | guylhem_ | meanwhile I'll still try to get a working mplayer :-) |
| 18:27.14 | guylhem_ | is there a working abiword ? the one currently on the feed is quite dead |
| 18:29.26 | koen | guylhem_: see my response to your bugreport |
| 18:30.05 | koen | and fwiw, everything in that feed should be discussed in #openzaurus |
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| 18:30.16 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 18:30.36 | _law_ | hi koen |
| 18:33.45 | RP | guylhem_: I've noticed you comments about the patches. OZ doesn't support a unified root filesystem and never will so that patch will not make it into OE |
| 18:37.18 | guylhem_ | RP - too bad. this would be a usefull feature. Personally, I only had to 1) flash that kernel 2) fill the partition will the jffs2 image 3) remove /home from fstab and then everything worked out of the box |
| 18:37.41 | guylhem_ | regarding the overclock, any hope? |
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| 19:31.39 | koen | "selected the opie image." ... "no reference to X in /etc/inittab and no indication of how to get it running." |
| 19:31.41 | koen | users.... |
| 19:34.59 | Frg | haha ;) |
| 19:40.10 | likewise | koen: JFYI: gcc-4.1.1 works alrighty on the ep93xx. |
| 19:40.40 | likewise | koen: JFYI: correction: gcc-4.1.1-compiled kernel and userland work alrighty on the ep93xx. |
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| 19:43.46 | Greg2 | hello all |
| 19:44.05 | koen | likewise: softfpa? |
| 19:44.08 | koen | hey Greg2 |
| 19:44.19 | Greg2 | hey koen |
| 19:45.33 | likewise | koen: Default build, I assume softfloat is enabled in the build, from what I saw. I get no kernel float traps on floating point apps. |
| 19:45.59 | Greg2 | hey likewise |
| 19:46.19 | likewise | Greg2: hey there. Dialin-in again? :-) |
| 19:46.36 | koen | likewise: that's pretty good news |
| 19:46.36 | Greg2 | yes :( |
| 19:47.32 | likewise | koen: know of a floating point testsuite in OE? I would like to test this a bit more thorough myself. |
| 19:47.53 | koen | likewise: I have no idea |
| 19:48.32 | likewise | koen: hmmm, will google a bit. should be some testsuites around (maybe we should even run a testsuite in qemu) |
| 19:53.33 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r72d107b2... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_cvs.bb: gpe-calendar: add libhandoff to depends |
| 19:55.09 | koen | likewise: you know the MACHINE=qemu-arm trick? |
| 19:55.11 | koen | likewise: http://rpsys.net/openzaurus/qemu/ |
| 19:55.29 | likewise | koen: not yet :-) |
| 20:00.51 | Greg2 | likewise: i've set up oe/bitbake on my laptop and desktop |
| 20:00.51 | Greg2 | dial-up connection makes this take a very long time... different distro on each box |
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| 20:01.16 | Greg2 | ikewise: i've set up both so i can take my laptop to a place with dsl and do 'bitbake -c fetch opie-image' for source d/l only :) |
| 20:01.54 | likewise | greg2: smart move. is dsl hard to get at your place, or expensive? |
| 20:02.16 | Greg2 | likewise: both |
| 20:02.42 | Greg2 | s/ikewise/likewise |
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| 20:34.20 | Greg2 | koen: i know you are a gpe user, but you most likely know this... |
| 20:34.27 | Greg2 | koen: if i want to build the latest poodle (opie) image with a 2.6 kernel do i use openembedded.dev or openembedded.oz354x? |
| 20:34.52 | koen | .dev |
| 20:35.03 | Greg2 | koen: thanks |
| 20:35.09 | koen | iirc .oz354x doesn't have the bits from poodle/2.6 |
| 20:35.41 | koen | CoreDump|home is the poodle 2.6 expert |
| 20:35.52 | koen | wtf |
| 20:35.59 | Greg2 | koen: i know :) |
| 20:36.00 | koen | google wants the documents faxed |
| 20:36.06 | koen | faxed..... |
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| 20:44.18 | RP | guylhem_: I'm not sure about the overclocking patch. The accepted via is we don't support overclocking as standard as we don't want any responsibility if it goes wrong |
| 20:45.44 | joshua_ | koen, assuming there is no personal information, email me a scan, and I will print and feed back into the fax machine |
| 20:46.09 | joshua_ | (unless you know of a way to make an x100-like card or an alsamodem fax...) |
| 20:46.11 | koen | joshua_: thanks, but I'll fax it tomorrow at the uni |
| 20:46.14 | joshua_ | okay |
| 20:46.52 | koen | I don't even have a POTS subscription at my house :) |
| 20:47.03 | joshua_ | voip? or just cell? |
| 20:47.19 | koen | just cell |
| 20:47.32 | koen | since a gsm subscription via the uni was free |
| 20:48.20 | joshua_ | hmm, cool |
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| 20:50.30 | likewise | How does OE bitbake decide what to package? "NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:" |
| 20:50.58 | koen | likewise: via the FILES var |
| 20:51.16 | koen | it has some default entries like ${bindir} and ${libdir} |
| 20:51.31 | likewise | koen: ok, I should just += add to it. |
| 20:51.43 | koen | you can ship the files by doing FILES_${PN} += "/mydir /dir/file" |
| 20:52.10 | koen | try to use ${libdir} and vars like that |
| 20:52.18 | koen | for people redifining such paths :) |
| 20:54.02 | likewise | koen: Instead of making a lot of patches, I'll put my X-less tree online as it still under refinement. So far, gdk_pixbuf, cairo, pango, freetype, fontconfig, fdclock are now without any X deps. (It's http://www.esrac.ele.tue.nl/~leon/linux/openembedded/) |
| 20:55.00 | likewise | koen: It feels as if OE needs a USE variable (like portage/emerge) to cope with system wide features. (I.e. depend on features instead of (virtual) packages). |
| 20:55.50 | koen | USE flags are insane as soon as you start spreading packages |
| 20:56.03 | koen | they makes lots of sense for stuff like gentoo |
| 20:56.11 | likewise | koen: yes, agreed. |
| 20:56.46 | koen | the virtual/thing is suboptimal, though |
| 20:57.22 | koen | OT: do not use 'suboptimal' in a control engineering exam |
| 20:57.59 | likewise | koen: but I see no sane way to merge my tree with OE (if this is senseful for anyone but me, I like the BBFILE_COLLECTIONS feature to run a higher priority tree next to that of org.openembedded.dev). |
| 20:58.26 | likewise | koen: as in regelsystemen? |
| 20:58.32 | koen | yes |
| 20:59.49 | likewise | koen: OT: took me ages to pass the control exam (well not the system modelling part, but systems control). |
| 21:00.49 | koen | second year course and I still haven't passed it |
| 21:00.54 | koen | (started 2001) |
| 21:01.11 | likewise | koen: likewise :-) |
| 21:01.57 | likewise | koen: is it classical control (Bode, Nyquist, Zero-Poles, ...)? |
| 21:02.08 | koen | yep |
| 21:02.16 | koen | not too hard |
| 21:02.16 | koen | but annoying |
| 21:02.48 | Greg2 | good night all |
| 21:02.56 | koen | masons rule sucks with pen + paper |
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| 21:03.09 | likewise | koen: it takes intuition to understand the interaction between pole/zero placement and system behaviour (at least that's what my prof said - never had it) |
| 21:03.21 | likewise | nite greg2 |
| 21:03.30 | Philippe | I hated it even more to discover on the exam that I seemed to have missed a lesson and was missing part of the course. |
| 21:03.32 | likewise | ah a bit too slow... |
| 21:08.35 | koen | likewise: I think we can add you packages as foo-nox and add the appropriate RREPLACES and virtuals (shouldn't be needed) |
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| 21:10.18 | likewise | koen: I am now testing the final build. One package (cairoclock from MacSlow) wasn't in OE yet AFAIK, so I will make a X variant of it as well. It's a nice eye catcher app. |
| 21:10.54 | koen | you can even test it on your workstation |
| 21:11.05 | koen | thanks to RP qemu has graphics support |
| 21:12.25 | likewise | koen: yes, framebuffer support if I stand correct? |
| 21:12.34 | koen | yes |
| 21:12.48 | koen | on which you can run xfbdev or qt/e |
| 21:12.58 | koen | or plain fb apps |
| 21:13.46 | likewise | koen: I am thinking of building a GTK+-on-GDK-on-DirectFB-on-FB as a next project. |
| 21:14.07 | koen | like the debian-installer people do? |
| 21:14.21 | likewise | koen: Now that the Mike Emmel (Debian Installer) has already done. Yes :-) |
| 21:14.31 | likewise | s/the// |
| 21:16.04 | koen | gdk-directfb would be nice for phones |
| 21:16.34 | likewise | koen: for all kinds of embedded devices :-) |
| 21:22.30 | likewise | koen: eyecandy: http://www.esrac.ele.tue.nl/~leon/linux/ep93xx/ep9312_rendered_macslow_cairo_clock.png |
| 21:23.01 | koen | cute |
| 21:23.15 | koen | with kernel 2.4 you could even render it to the fb |
| 21:23.26 | koen | how is the performance if it? |
| 21:24.15 | likewise | bad... |
| 21:24.29 | koen | crunch! |
| 21:24.42 | likewise | koen: critical paths of cairo are fixed point. |
| 21:25.05 | likewise | koen: I hope to be able to run a second hand that actually moves every second :-) |
| 21:25.15 | likewise | hand as in wijzer |
| 21:26.02 | likewise | koen: the fdclock (simpler, direct cairo without librsvg) takes about 300 ms to redraw it's hands on a 800x800 display |
| 21:26.24 | koen | and cairoclock? |
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| 21:26.48 | likewise | just now adding a printk, just to get some feedback on its performance (and removing libpng write-out, which is the performance killer now) |
| 21:29.50 | likewise | <remove cats while editing source> |
| 21:33.15 | likewise | ok, her 5 minutes of fame: http://www.esrac.ele.tue.nl/~leon/linux/kitten_on_keyboard_error.jpg |
| 21:36.11 | Philippe | likewise, nice cat ! |
| 21:36.36 | Philippe | does not seem to press the keys too much yet... |
| 21:37.32 | likewise | Philippe: half an hour ago: suspend key (didn't even know I had one)... Fedora goes into suspend-to-disk, but I couldn't get it to start up again... |
| 21:37.48 | likewise | Philippe: I *just* finished my build though :-) |
| 21:38.45 | Philippe | likewise, sounds bad enough... OTOH you discovered you have a suspend key :-) |
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| 21:39.40 | likewise | Philippe: well yes, but I never got it to work under Linux on my previous computers so I do not bother... |
| 21:39.52 | likewise | Now only if the cat could code... |
| 21:40.04 | likewise | then I would have a small developer team here |
| 21:40.48 | Philippe | likewise, if you could train it to do that you might be a rich man soon... |
| 21:41.26 | Philippe | s/man/person/ |
| 21:43.58 | aquadran | koen: fix for glibc 2.4 works, it solve partial loop problem, but now it loop later in nptl dir |
| 21:45.37 | likewise | aquadran: hey, we saw that one also. pthread-error.h? |
| 21:46.35 | aquadran | likewise: yes |
| 21:50.43 | likewise | aquadran: you have both fixes? (fix one enables -isystem in bitbake.conf, fix 2 involves modified FLAGS for glibc) |
| 21:50.44 | aquadran | likewise: only second, maybe i miss first |
| 21:50.44 | likewise | second is most important, first does not do anything for glibc anymore, I *think* |
| 21:51.00 | likewise | aquadran: you checked out a recent OE, or did you patch your local copy? |
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| 21:51.34 | aquadran | likewise: i patched localy from email |
| 21:53.33 | aquadran | likewise: what first patch did ? i hade i bit problem with emails, so propably i lost that one |
| 21:53.33 | koen | ibot: calc 7.5 * 1.2 |
| 21:53.53 | likewise | hold on. got a Skype call... |
| 22:01.15 | koen | likewise: if you have bitbake 1.5.x (svn trunk) you can do the following: http://oe.pastebin.com/745721 |
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| 22:11.24 | koen | likewise: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/images/librsvg.png |
| 22:12.14 | koen | or http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/images/librsvg.svg |
| 22:18.43 | koen | generated with this command: http://oe.pastebin.com/745756 |
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| 22:30.18 | koen | likewise: did you see the librsvg graph? |
| 22:30.34 | likewise | koen: updating bitbake as we speak |
| 22:30.56 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/images/librsvg.png |
| 22:31.51 | likewise | koen: this is excellent. I have a *handwritten* A4 paper here, which looks almost alike! |
| 22:32.05 | koen | 00:18 < koen> generated with this command: http://oe.pastebin.com/745756 |
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| 22:33.11 | likewise | koen: the ep9312 runs 120% realtime with the cairo clock at 32x32.... |
| 22:33.34 | koen | heh |
| 22:34.37 | likewise | koen: and ~18% real-time when drawing it 500x500 pxls |
| 22:34.59 | likewise | hmmm. |
| 22:35.37 | koen | bitbake 1.5 has a lot of debug spew |
| 22:36.17 | koen | time to go to sleep |
| 22:36.19 | koen | 'night all |
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| 22:42.32 | likewise | nite koen |
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| 23:11.26 | likewise | mithro: hi |
| 23:14.16 | magnet | evening guys. |
| 23:14.54 | magnet | does someone know some loader like grub I could use with oe on my z3100 ? |
| 23:15.04 | magnet | I wish to try some kernels. |
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| 23:27.28 | v8jlene | magnet: Does altboot work on that model? |
| 23:29.09 | magnet | yea. |
| 23:30.42 | magnet | can I boot other kernels with it ? |
| 23:33.03 | v8jlene | Dunno, I've never used it. My boards just run lilo (have block mapper over the flash). Perhaps this will tell you something: http://www.hentges.net/misc/openzaurus/docs/altboot.shtml |
| 23:34.25 | magnet | I check. |
| 23:34.54 | v8jlene | magnet: Apparently not ;( "Please keep in mind that while altboot does enable you to use multiple root partitions / installations it does (currently) not allow you to boot another kernel. To load a different kernel than the one flashed, the kexec tools are required. Currently this is only possible with kernel 2.6 so your device must support this kernel." From http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/the-altboot-faq/ |
| 23:35.44 | magnet | it don't sound like i can setup it too have alternate boot kernels |
| 23:38.44 | v8jlene | magnet: If you just want to test out newer kernels then you could always nfsboot them? That's how I do all of my kernel testing. |
| 23:39.10 | magnet | umm |
| 23:39.51 | magnet | how do you do that ? |
| 23:40.57 | JoeSchmo | you could use altboot to kexec another kernel |
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| 23:41.34 | magnet | I didn t thinked about kexec. |
| 23:41.37 | bioeng | Hey, can I ask a few questions? |
| 23:42.05 | magnet | I'll try it |
| 23:42.20 | magnet | JoeSchmo: any docs on to get it working with alboot ( and why ? ) |
| 23:42.50 | bioeng | Do you guys think that if you're doing an EE major that a CS minor will help if you're having trouble with programming? |
| 23:43.03 | JustinP | magnet: altboot is just nice to use for testing or using alternate syste,s |
| 23:43.31 | JustinP | magnet: you can also just use kexec on its own without altboot |
| 23:43.41 | magnet | great |
| 23:44.01 | magnet | I just want to make some changes in the kernel sources. and test them |
