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| 01:38.18 | zach | After I build a package, how do I rebuild it? |
| 01:38.37 | zach | I applied an external patch to the source, and want to rebuild, but it just says it's already built |
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| 01:45.29 | evanchsa | If you are in the BB interactive session you can do rebuild <package name> |
| 01:46.40 | evanchsa | You could also do bb -f <package name> |
| 01:47.24 | zach | I tried that |
| 01:47.29 | zach | That didn't rebuild it |
| 01:47.35 | zach | But the interactive one did |
| 01:48.10 | zach | Unfortunately, it deleated the source I just modified... So how do I go about editing the source, and getting it to not delete it? |
| 01:48.18 | zach | deleted* |
| 01:48.32 | evanchsa | Ah, that's what I figured you wanted to do |
| 01:53.17 | TheMasterMind1 | zach: bitbake -b path/to/bb/file.bb -c compile -f |
| 01:53.24 | TheMasterMind1 | that will force the compile step only |
| 01:53.29 | zach | Thanks |
| 01:53.38 | emte | you use a second packages dir and override the repo |
| 01:53.44 | TheMasterMind1 | then if you do bitbake -b file.bb, it should notice that the compile step has a newer timestamp than the ones after it and redo the ones after it |
| 01:54.04 | emte | or that |
| 01:54.18 | TheMasterMind1 | that's how i do it anyway. once it works create a .patch and stick it in SRC_URI |
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| 05:21.52 | Necronom | Hrm. |
| 05:21.57 | Necronom | NOTE: package osb-jscore-0.5.0+cvs20060212-r0: task do_fetch: failed |
| 05:22.29 | Necronom | Does anyone else have incessant problems with sf.net anoncvs? |
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| 05:44.27 | zach | I just managed to build an patch kphonepi, and it works... But it seems like the QtE stuff is all wrong... It looks different (The theme doesn't seem to be applied to it), and there's no buttons in the title bar |
| 05:44.35 | zach | and* |
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| 05:56.20 | emte | Necronom, everyone on the planet does |
| 06:19.19 | zach | How do I package something I've built? I built with bitbake -b my.bb -c compile -f, but how do I build the .ipk? |
| 06:20.39 | treke|home | zach: Don't tell it to run a specific task, just let it do its thing |
| 06:20.58 | treke|home | Then it will run the "package" task :p |
| 06:21.19 | zach | treke|home, the problem is I modified the source, and don't want to clean the source, and reextract, and build |
| 06:21.36 | zach | which is what happens when I call rebuild |
| 06:21.48 | treke|home | then run the package task |
| 06:23.32 | zach | Hmm |
| 06:23.40 | zach | That's not listed when I run interactive, but it works |
| 06:24.14 | treke|home | ah. I didnt even know there was an interactive mode :p |
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| 06:59.02 | uv1 | Morning all. |
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| 07:19.59 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rcf432ace... 10/packages/busybox/busybox-1.01/slugos/sysctl.conf: busybox/slugos: Reinstated the fix to sysctl.conf which seems to have been reverted by someone. |
| 07:22.48 | uv1 | Problems with the latest .dev build (pull from 22.04.2006) and my c860. AlsaMixer does not provide left and right mixer any more. The device has no sound ;-( Any ideas ? |
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| 07:52.32 | uv1 | Hi all |
| 07:52.36 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf57df095... 10/packages/linux/ (ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16.bb): ixp4xx-kernel: Put required modules for usb storage back into the kernel. |
| 07:53.29 | uv1 | Have problems with alsamixer on my cl860. No sound at all after updateing to 2.6.16 kernel (.dev feed from 22.04.2006) |
| 07:53.36 | uv1 | Anyone here who can help ? |
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| 08:11.04 | uv1 | Have problems with alsamixer on my cl860. No sound at all after updateing to 2.6.16 kernel (.dev feed from 22.04.2006) |
| 08:11.05 | uv1 | Anyone here who can help ? |
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| 09:02.26 | uv1 | Morning |
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| 09:12.43 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r21e5c1bd... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Fixed the name of the disk led on the nas100d. |
| 09:32.40 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:35.36 | uv1 | morning Coredump |
| 09:40.46 | koen | RP: 4th projects: http://venge.net/monotone/wiki/SummerOfCode2006, the perl cvs thingie :) |
| 09:42.39 | RP | koen: Interesting although I'd prefer svn :) |
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| 09:48.46 | rwhitby | Trac with a monotone backend would be nice. Especially if it supported the nice trac changeset viewing. |
| 09:50.16 | RP | Hmm. First patch from pdaxrom - reboot handling for the cxx00. Doesn't quite do what sashz told me and isn't quite right :-/ |
| 09:51.54 | rwhitby | RP: does the latest LEDS timer trigger use delay_on/delay_off or frequency/duty ? |
| 09:52.01 | CoreDump|home | RP: Dunno, rebooting appears to work fine |
| 09:52.36 | koen | RP: didn't you fix that a week ago already? |
| 09:53.12 | RP | koen: Yes, and properly ;-) |
| 09:53.17 | RP | rwhitby: delay_on/delay_off |
| 09:53.35 | RP | rwhitby: Otherwise the conversions had too many nasty corner cases |
| 09:53.54 | rwhitby | RP: thx - looks like I've got an nslu2-linux leds script to modify then. Do you have a nice formula to convert freq/duty to delay_on/delay_off ? |
| 09:54.43 | RP | rwhitby: There was one in the driver... :) |
| 09:54.55 | koen | delay_on = duty and delay of = 1/(2 * freq) ? |
| 09:56.20 | RP | delay_on = (50 - (50 - duty)) 1000 / 50 freq and delay_off (50 + (50 -duty)) 1000 /50 freq |
| 09:58.38 | RP | er, (duty - 50) in the inner brackets even... |
| 09:58.53 | koen | I was wondering about that :) |
| 10:01.47 | mithro | writings essays suck |
| 10:03.03 | mithro | maybe I should apply for some SoC stuff :P |
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| 10:03.51 | koen | mithro: please do |
| 10:04.59 | mithro | sadly last year my 4 applications got rejected :/ |
| 10:05.29 | koen | ah, that's too bad |
| 10:06.36 | mithro | i might still apply for some of the OE/monotone ones as it would mean I could spend quite a bit more time on them |
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| 10:10.06 | RP | mithro: There's probably no harm in trying... |
| 10:10.26 | mithro | RP: yeah thats my thoughts |
| 10:10.39 | mithro | being a student must have some advantages :P |
| 10:11.50 | koen | being able to drink beer at 10am :) |
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| 10:34.13 | mithro | i don't drink alchol :P |
| 10:36.15 | koen | indeed |
| 10:36.17 | koen | I forgot |
| 10:37.02 | cyrilRomain | morning all. Is it a problem to use a shared source directory between more than one development branch ? |
| 10:37.31 | koen | DL_DIR of WORKDIR? |
| 10:37.40 | cyrilRomain | DL_DIR |
| 10:38.02 | rwhitby | RP: what's the units of delay_on and delay_off ? |
| 10:38.11 | koen | cyrilRomain: no problem at all |
| 10:38.28 | RP | rwhitby: msecs |
| 10:38.38 | cyrilRomain | koen: ok, thank you :) |
| 10:39.00 | rwhitby | So a freq of 1 and duty of 50 should translate to 500,500 |
| 10:39.11 | rwhitby | delay_on = (50 - (duty - 50)) * 1000 / 50 * freq |
| 10:39.12 | rwhitby | delay_off = (50 + (duty - 50)) * 1000 / 50 * freq |
| 10:39.19 | rwhitby | are those right? |
| 10:40.27 | reenoo | morning |
| 10:40.28 | koen | rwhitby: I get 1000,1000 |
| 10:40.43 | RP | rwhitby: Its a factor of two out - you need / 100 |
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| 10:43.54 | rwhitby | those equations are reversed for on/off too, aren't they? |
| 10:44.23 | RP | rwhitby: Yes :-/ |
| 10:45.48 | rwhitby | delay_on = (50 + (duty - 50)) * 10 * freq |
| 10:45.48 | rwhitby | delay_off = (50 - (duty - 50)) * 10 * freq |
| 10:47.36 | RP | you can rewrite as (duty) 10 freq and (100 - duty) 10 freq which looks much simpler. I can't remember why I didn't do that :) |
| 11:07.52 | koen | RP: gbluezconf looks like poky-ware ;) |
| 11:09.00 | RP | koen: I know nothing about it :) |
| 11:16.47 | koen | Packaged contents of gbluezconf into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/gbluezconf_00.10-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 11:26.00 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r001fcb06... 10/packages/gbluezconf/gbluezconf_00.10.bb: gbluezconf: add gbluezconf 00.10 |
| 11:28.32 | CoreDump|home | RP: do you know some trick to make collies buzzer emmit some beep or noise by chance? |
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| 11:33.14 | RP | CoreDump|home: Not without digging into the 2.4 kernel |
| 11:33.28 | CoreDump|home | RP: too bad |
| 11:33.41 | CoreDump|home | how does opie manage to do it? |
| 11:33.46 | koen | with 2.6 you could to nice stuff with alsa libs |
| 11:34.04 | koen | CoreDump|home: evil kernel hack using PCM and a fake sound dev? |
| 11:34.23 | CoreDump|home | :\ |
| 11:34.46 | reenoo | opie just does some ioctls on a non-standard device node IIRC |
| 11:35.37 | uv1 | koen: But my CL860 does nothing. Sound is off all time. That nearly makes it a brick (no alarms any more) |
| 11:35.48 | CoreDump|home | which breaks when someone used collies buzzer.patch in the kernel |
| 11:39.59 | uv1 | CoreDump|home: Going back to 1.3.x was a really bad idea. Now I am not able any more to get 1.4.1 working. Just waste of time and hot air ;-(( |
| 11:40.35 | CoreDump|home | uv1: delete the bitbake stuff and do a clean checkout then |
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| 11:43.00 | uv1 | Giving up for this weekend. Would be nice if someone could fix the CL860 no sound problem ... |
| 11:43.01 | uv1 | Bye |
| 12:00.54 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r3a73c379... 10/packages/slugos-init/files/leds: slugos-init: Updated the leds script to match the delay_on/delay_off interface for the timer trigger. |
| 12:00.58 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd900f23a... 10/packages/slugos-init/slugos-init_0.10.bb: slugos-init: Bumped PR |
| 12:01.02 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4548a9cb... 10/packages/slugos-init/files/turnup: slugos-init: Fixed the turnup script for nas100d. |
| 12:01.06 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf627a813... 10/packages/busybox/busybox_1.01.bb: busybox/slugos: Bumped PR due to sysctl.conf change. |
| 12:05.37 | koen | does ${MACHINE}.conf get parsed before or after ${DISTRO}.conf ? |
| 12:06.44 | koen | to answer my own question: http://oe.pastebin.com/676695 |
| 12:06.52 | koen | 'before' |
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| 12:16.07 | koen | hey zecke |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1fc6af6f... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-9 | angstrom-2006.9: add some safeguards |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-9 | * select kernel 2.6 for zaurus and iPAQs (KERNEL and ZKERNEL_VERSION) |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-9 | * zap contents of GPE_EXTRA_INSTALL |
| 12:19.53 | zecke | hey |
| 12:20.36 | zecke | ~lart sf.net |
| 12:20.41 | zecke | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xmms-embedded |
| 12:20.46 | CoreDump|home | koen: we sure need a better way to populate different sized root's in A than we have in OZ |
| 12:21.18 | CoreDump|home | like _16m _50m _100m etc |
| 12:21.43 | koen | CoreDump|home: indeed |
| 12:22.33 | CoreDump|home | the HDD models are *begging* for a different task-bootstrap =) |
| 12:23.18 | koen | right now I'm trying to remove some crud from the images |
| 12:23.55 | CoreDump|home | might just as well start over from scratch... |
| 12:24.35 | koen | I'd like to |
| 12:24.52 | koen | but that needs a task-bootstrap overhaul |
| 12:25.27 | reenoo | just don't use task-bootstrap if you don't want it |
| 12:25.50 | koen | right |
| 12:25.58 | koen | and loose all kernel modules |
| 12:26.24 | CoreDump|home | the whole point of a task-bootstrap is to put together a bare-bone image on top of which any GUI can be installed |
| 12:26.39 | CoreDump|home | not using something like that would be a major PITA |
| 12:26.56 | koen | which obviously needs openswan and mipv6 and pcmcia-cs and... and... and... |
| 12:27.02 | reenoo | koen: task-bootstrap has a defined purpose. if that doesn't suit your needs, you're free to come up with your own replacement |
| 12:27.16 | koen | will do |
| 12:27.23 | CoreDump|home | reenoo: thanks for that clever remark. I am doing that for _years_ |
| 12:27.56 | CoreDump|home | what I was trying to say is that we need a finer control for a task-bootstrap depending on the machine it is build for |
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| 12:30.32 | reenoo | no, you need separate task packages. task-bootstrap's purpose is "boot the machine, get onto $network, 'ipkg install $other-task-package'" |
| 12:31.28 | reenoo | the first and second part could be separate task packages |
| 12:38.33 | reenoo | factoring out a subset of task-bootstrap into say, task-essential-to-boot, isn't exactly a new plan and would be trivial to implement |
| 12:40.30 | ade|desk | task-essential-to-boot, task-networking : task-networking-{wireless,wired,serial} etc would be good |
| 12:40.44 | reenoo | yeah |
| 12:41.02 | reenoo | I described all that in a message to oe@ ages ago |
| 12:46.50 | zecke | cya |
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| 13:19.46 | AlexTe | I have created a .bb file to compile some program. All goes without error but it does nothing except unpack the source. What did I miss ? Is it not supposed to launch configure script ? |
| 13:20.42 | koen | either SRC_URI or S is wrong |
| 13:20.56 | koen | (or something non-obvious, but I can't say without the .bb) |
| 13:23.44 | AlexTe | S is supposed to match the source folder name once extracted ? |
| 13:25.08 | koen | yes |
| 13:25.32 | koen | by default: S = "${WORKDIR}/${P}" |
| 13:25.46 | koen | and P = ${PN}-${PV} |
| 13:30.54 | AlexTe | package seems to be extracted there: oe/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/kakasi-2.3.4-r0/kakasi-2.3.4 so default should be fine ? |
| 13:31.29 | koen | it looks that way |
| 13:31.48 | AlexTe | SRC_URI = "http://kakasi.namazu.org/stable/kakasi-${PV}.tar.gz" |
| 13:32.37 | koen | that looks ok as well |
| 13:32.57 | koen | could you pastebin the output of 'bitbake kakasi'? |
| 13:34.46 | koen | interesting: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/6606 |
| 13:37.06 | mickeyl | good morning |
| 13:37.15 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 13:37.16 | mickeyl | rwhitby: in what state is the nas100d support in OE atm.? |
| 13:37.38 | rwhitby | mickeyl: I've just debootstrapped debian with it. |
| 13:37.51 | mickeyl | cool |
| 13:37.59 | rwhitby | It's a fully supported SlugOS target. |
| 13:38.14 | rwhitby | But the 100d is EOL. |
| 13:38.26 | rwhitby | As is the DSM-G600RevA |
| 13:38.29 | mickeyl | means I could get one cheap? :) |
| 13:38.48 | koen | are the IOPs big endian as well? |
| 13:38.49 | rwhitby | mickeyl: if you can find one. |
| 13:39.02 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 13:39.08 | mickeyl | NAS 100/160GB 349.80 EUR |
| 13:39.10 | mickeyl | whow! |
| 13:39.12 | mickeyl | that's steep |
| 13:39.24 | AlexTe | koen : bitbake kakasi output: http://iris.vbone.net/kakasi.txt |
| 13:39.38 | rwhitby | mickeyl: that's not the normal price. |
| 13:41.28 | koen | AlexTe: did you do 'inherit autotools pkgconfig' in the .bb? |
| 13:41.55 | mickeyl | rwhitby: what would be a price to go? |
| 13:42.36 | rwhitby | I can't remember whether mine was USD$160 or USD$260 at Frys |
| 13:43.03 | rwhitby | I think it was $160. |
| 13:43.09 | mickeyl | rwhitby: right. that sounds better |
| 13:44.44 | rwhitby | http://www.macrolevel.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=216 |
| 13:44.47 | AlexTe | koen: looks like I was missing pkgconfig, thanks |
| 13:45.02 | koen | from #monotone: 15:44 < thm> well, I just wanted to tell you guys that I have a trac plugin almost working... |
| 13:45.33 | rwhitby | mickeyl: no idea what that shop is, but they say around $170 |
| 13:46.37 | koen | rwhitby: I thought you would like that bit of news :) |
| 13:46.54 | rwhitby | koen: yep. |
| 13:47.10 | cyrilRomain | mickeyl: 62,5 EUR on http://www.ciao.fr/Iomega_NAS_100d_160GB__691947 and 549 EUR TTC on http://www.ldlc.fr/fiche/PB00026296.html 8-| |
| 13:49.36 | cyrilRomain | mickeyl: well the first link seems to display an wrong price (I think, since it compares with not-related articles) |
| 13:51.00 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:51.32 | mickeyl | rwhitby: anyone of you guys tried streaming divx with a usbtv box? |
| 13:51.49 | mickeyl | (with a slug) |
| 13:52.09 | koen | s/divx/mpeg2/? |
| 13:52.25 | koen | if so, yes, effem has been doing that for a while |
| 13:52.36 | koen | since usbtv boxes usually output mpeg2 |
| 13:52.57 | rwhitby | as long as you don't need to transcode, it seems to work fine. |
| 13:52.58 | mickeyl | well, i was thinking the other way round |
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| 13:53.08 | mickeyl | pc -> slug -> tv |
| 13:53.44 | AlexTe | compilation went fine but in the end it tries to execute a binary it just compiled, to generate some data. Is there any known method for this ? |
| 13:53.45 | rwhitby | night all |
| 13:53.51 | mickeyl | g'night rwhitby |
| 13:54.01 | koen | 'night rwhitby |
| 13:54.24 | koen | AlexTe: run it through qemu or add kakasi-native |
| 14:02.29 | AlexTe | do you have examples ? |
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| 14:40.07 | mickeyl | anyone built opie in .dev lately? |
| 14:40.16 | mickeyl | can't seem to get any text rendered |
| 14:40.35 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r4: task do_package: started |
| 14:41.01 | koen | mickeyl: I'm building gpe,opie,e,xfce and bootstrap images for angstrom right now |
| 14:41.10 | mickeyl | ok |
| 14:41.24 | koen | could be font issue |
| 14:41.31 | mickeyl | i'm afraid so |
| 14:41.37 | mickeyl | i can't think of any changes though |
| 14:41.40 | koen | hrw will know the fix :) |
| 14:41.49 | mickeyl | aha downgrading to qt from 3.5.4 release doesn't make a difference |
| 14:41.52 | mickeyl | so it's not my qt build |
| 14:42.05 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:42.09 | koen | hey chouimat |
| 14:46.47 | koen | ibot: botmail for zecke: glibc packaging does indeed look a lot faster |
| 14:46.59 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd6d71105... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb: gpe-session-scripts: add 0.67 |
| 14:54.57 | mickeyl | downgrading fonts doesn't change anything |
| 14:55.03 | mickeyl | downgrading freetype |
| 14:56.31 | koen | mickeyl: have you tried prelink yet? |
| 14:56.35 | mickeyl | on |
| 14:56.36 | mickeyl | no |
| 15:00.04 | cyrilRomain | ... wiki updated to warn people not to use monotone 0.26 or above ... |
| 15:00.25 | koen | RP, mickeyl: http://oe.pastebin.com/676955 |
| 15:00.51 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 15:01.04 | mickeyl | can't get these darn fonts to display |
| 15:01.28 | koen | mickeyl: tried stracing? |
| 15:01.31 | RP | koen: Looks good to me :) |
| 15:02.37 | koen | RP: should I commit it? |
| 15:02.59 | TheMasterMind1 | && perhaps instead of ; |
| 15:04.10 | RP | koen: Yes please :) |
| 15:05.16 | CoreDump|home | .oz354x could use that as well ;) |
| 15:06.41 | mickeyl | ok, using qpf fonts it works |
| 15:06.50 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: ping |
| 15:07.00 | koen | it's a plot against ttf fonts |
| 15:07.05 | mickeyl | seems like it |
| 15:08.11 | Cockroach- | Evening |
| 15:08.16 | koen | hey Cockroach- |
| 15:08.27 | koen | TheMasterMind1: did you see that slide about jazelle? |
| 15:08.41 | TheMasterMind1 | koen: i did not |
| 15:10.12 | koen | http://oe.pastebin.com/676955 and http://linuxdevices.com/files/article064/slide12-sm.jpg |
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| 15:10.33 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r947b99ed... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_1.0.7-rc1.bb altboot_1.0.7-rc2.bb): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc2 |
| 15:10.38 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r7e670473... 10/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: sysvinit: Add support for more than one enabled getty in inittab through setting SYSVINIT_ENABLED_GETTYS. |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40758b8f... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-9 | zaurus-clamshell.conf: add support for adding jffs2 summaries to improve mount times |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-9 | * adapted from ipaq-pxa270.conf - Thanks Philipp! |
| 15:10.52 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r6d5aedd5... 10/packages/altboot/ (13 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:10.52 | CIA-9 | altboot: |
| 15:10.52 | CIA-9 | - Removed multiple die() functions |
| 15:10.52 | CIA-9 | - Altboot no longer activates an off-flash altboot-menu when not |
| 15:10.53 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.55 | CIA-9 | - Added a debug_echo function which is disabled in non-rc and |
| 15:10.57 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.59 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r69d638b1... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_1.0.7-rc1.bb altboot_1.0.7-rc2.bb): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc2 |
| 15:11.42 | TheMasterMind1 | koen: cool, how is the jffs2 related though? |
| 15:11.55 | koen | TheMasterMind1: it isn't |
| 15:12.06 | koen | TheMasterMind1: but I remembered you did java stuff |
| 15:12.50 | TheMasterMind1 | yep the jazelle slide looks very interesting |
| 15:13.20 | koen | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/TechConference2005Docs?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Optimizing_Linux_ARM.pdf |
| 15:13.22 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: please document variables in documentation.conf |
| 15:13.42 | koen | armv6 supports unaligned memory access |
| 15:13.42 | CoreDump|home | will do |
| 15:14.32 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 15:17.21 | Cockroach- | How does OE handle cross-configure problems with AC_TRY_RUN, AC_TRY_LINK etc variables? Is the do_configure() method in packages used to override the "normal" way of running configure-scripts (as if compiling manually and natively)? |
| 15:17.53 | koen | AC_TRY_LINK shouldn't pose any problem |
| 15:18.06 | Cockroach- | well true |
| 15:18.18 | koen | we manage most stuff with config.cache files from the site/ directory |
| 15:18.38 | koen | othwerwise we curse and patch the configure script |
| 15:19.37 | TheMasterMind1 | wow, the wikipedia ARM page is pretty nice |
| 15:19.58 | Cockroach- | koen: So that kind of confirms my beliefs, that each new package requires some tuning with the original configure scripts of the software |
| 15:20.19 | koen | about 80% of the packages require no tweaking |
| 15:20.25 | koen | our site files are pretty complete |
| 15:20.27 | Cockroach- | as opposed to Scratchbox which tries to fake everything |
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| 15:22.55 | CIA-9 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r55616adc... 10/conf/documentation.conf: conf: Update documentation.conf to include SYSVINIT_ENABLED_GETTYS |
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| 15:26.09 | koen | mickeyl: are we allowed to gloat of http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842 ? |
| 15:26.52 | mickeyl | you are |
| 15:31.23 | koen | mickeyl: any ideas for some OE SoC projects? |
| 15:32.55 | CIA-9 | 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8b12e357... 10/packages/python/python_2.4.2.bb: python: add 'python' meta package currently depending on 'python-core' |
| 15:34.34 | mickeyl | koen: a) variable namespaces + documentation, b) reorganizing bootstrap stuff, c) enforcing more consistence in metadata |
| 15:34.45 | RP | koen: Packaging for staging? |
| 15:35.11 | RP | That one is a lot of work though and they'd need existing experience with OE :-/ |
| 15:35.56 | RP | Finishing the C parser would be good. A multithreaded bitbake? |
| 15:36.38 | hrw | hi |
| 15:36.41 | RP | hi hrw |
| 15:36.45 | koen | anyway, contact erik@hovland.org for ideas and if you want to mentor someone (~4 hours/week, $500 from google) |
| 15:36.46 | hrw | CoreDump|home: I will push some changes |
| 15:36.51 | koen | hey hrw |
| 15:37.11 | hrw | how much does nslu2 costs today? |
| 15:37.18 | RP | koen: for 3 months? |
| 15:37.22 | hrw | in Poland its ~400pln |
| 15:37.25 | hrw | ~changel 400 pln to eur |
| 15:37.29 | hrw | ~change 400 pln to eur |
| 15:37.32 | koen | RP: 2 months iirc |
| 15:37.51 | mickeyl | hrw: i have an odd problem here. can you build an opie-image in .dev when you have a chance? I no longer works with TTF fonts here |
| 15:38.11 | RP | koen: Whilst I could offer to mentor last year, this year I can for various reasons I'm not getting into :-( |
| 15:38.16 | evanchsa | Hey, does anyone how I can debug this error? http://pastebin.com/677006 |
| 15:38.19 | RP | I can't |
| 15:38.24 | hrw | mickeyl: maybe on end of week - first I want to release 3.5.4.1-rc1 |
| 15:38.34 | mickeyl | right |
| 15:39.14 | mickeyl | RP: any idea how we could handle missing pcmcia insert events? |
| 15:39.16 | koen | evanchsa: disable binary locale generation |
| 15:39.33 | mickeyl | RP: if I have my wlan card in on boot, I need to manually ifup eth0 |
| 15:39.39 | mickeyl | RP: if i stick it in later, it works automatically |
| 15:39.41 | koen | evanchsa: but looking at your pwd, it looks like you'd want slugos or ludeos instead of familiar |
| 15:40.14 | koen | mickeyl: probe on boot? |
| 15:40.43 | hrw | mickeyl: on boot udev should go through /sys/ and fake events iirc |
| 15:40.46 | mickeyl | isn't udev supposed to do that? |
| 15:40.50 | mickeyl | right, that's what i was thinking |
| 15:40.59 | mickeyl | it doesn't work here though |
| 15:41.44 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd7bbd119... 10/packages/wpa-supplicant/wpa-supplicant_0.4.8.bb: wpa-supplicant: only PN replace/conflict wpa-supplicant-nossl |
| 15:41.47 | hrw | CoreDump|home: hostap-conf, wpa-supplicant pushed. I do not see newer libssl anywhere |
| 15:41.53 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8559cc68... 10/packages/hostap/ (files/hostap_cs.conf hostap-conf_1.0.bb): hostap-conf: some updates which I forgot to push |
| 15:41.59 | CoreDump|home | hrw: thanks |
| 15:42.16 | hrw | mickeyl: can you put opie-image somewhere? I will look into then |
| 15:42.55 | evanchsa | koen: The pwd isn't related to anything .. the OE stuff was placed there.. I have built ludeos and slugos in the past in this build environment but now I want to build familiar for my iPAQ |
| 15:43.01 | mickeyl | hrw: will do. after i installed a qpf font and changed settings to use that I saw text |
| 15:43.38 | mickeyl | aaah |
| 15:44.01 | mickeyl | hah! |
| 15:44.01 | mickeyl | root@c7x0:/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories# ls -la |
| 15:44.02 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . |
| 15:44.02 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 .. |
| 15:44.33 | RP | mickeyl: As hrw mentioned, udev should fake the events. It works here - Are you using udev 084? |
| 15:44.47 | mickeyl | root@c7x0:/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins# ipkg status udev |
| 15:44.47 | mickeyl | Package: udev |
| 15:44.48 | mickeyl | Version: 084-r7 |
| 15:44.56 | mickeyl | RP: does it work with the symbol card? |
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| 15:45.14 | RP | mickeyl: yes, perfectly... |
| 15:45.36 | mickeyl | odd |
| 15:45.36 | mickeyl | hrw: there is a libfreetype supposed to be in there isn't it? |
| 15:45.48 | RP | mickeyl: Are your card ids in the driver? |
| 15:46.16 | mickeyl | RP: i think so. the card is powered ok and stuff, it just isn't ifup'ed |
| 15:46.31 | hrw | mickeyl: opie-freetype |
| 15:46.48 | RP | mickeyl: Do you need an essid? I know that causes me problems... |
| 15:47.03 | mickeyl | RP: yes. I receive three essids here |
| 15:47.12 | mickeyl | RP: needs to run dhcp |
| 15:47.34 | mickeyl | hrw: can you ipkg list opie-freetype please |
| 15:47.34 | RP | mickeyl: I suspect our network.sh script isn't good enough to remember the right essid |
| 15:47.42 | mickeyl | RP: possible. |
| 15:47.56 | RP | network.sh is really just a hack :-/ |
| 15:48.09 | RP | It needs doing properly... |
| 15:48.37 | koen | isn't the essid supposed to be in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 15:48.46 | hrw | mickeyl: opie-freetype - 1.2.1-r0 - Freetype fontfactory plugin |
| 15:48.56 | mickeyl | sorry, ipkg files even |
| 15:49.07 | hrw | moment |
| 15:49.13 | RP | koen: I'm not 100% sure how its supposed to work tbh which is why I've not touched it... |
| 15:49.34 | hrw | Package opie-freetype (1.2.1-r0) is installed on temp and has the following files: |
| 15:49.34 | hrw | /home/hrw/devel/build/oz354x/_test/dest/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories/libfreetypefactory.so |
| 15:49.37 | koen | 'ifup ${IF}' looks in /etc/network/interfaces for info |
| 15:49.46 | koen | which is where wifi config lives |
| 15:49.54 | mickeyl | hrw: righto. thanks. opie-freetype is installed on my opie-image, but it doesn't contain any files |
| 15:49.55 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 15:50.17 | RP | koen: So in theory network.sh does do enough... |
| 15:50.27 | koen | RP: yes |
| 15:50.41 | koen | RP: and our /etc/network/interfaces is compatible with debian's |
| 15:51.25 | mickeyl | aah |
| 15:51.58 | koen | you'll need wireless_<foo> entries |
| 15:52.30 | mickeyl | hrw: ok, i got it. i changed EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST handling in that way that bb files are no longer allowed to override it. instead they need to append to it |
| 15:53.18 | mickeyl | I probably should change that again in order to be consistent with any EXTRA_foo |
| 15:53.19 | hrw | mickeyl: so .dev is a bit fscked for some qtopia stuff now? |
| 15:53.20 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 15:53.24 | mickeyl | hrw: yes |
| 15:53.30 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 15:54.06 | RP | hi pb_ |
| 15:54.16 | AlexTe | koen: I managed to compile the kakasi-native now how do I get it to actually execute the i386 binary ? I must patch the Makefile or can it be done automagically ? |
| 15:54.16 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 15:54.39 | RP | mickeyl: I just tested with a corrected /etc/network/interfaces file and it worked fine with the spectrum card |
| 15:54.51 | mickeyl | RP: ok cool, what did you change? |
| 15:54.56 | koen | AlexTe: make the kakasi-native put the tool in ${STAGING_BINDIR}. /me looks at mickeyl to check |
| 15:54.59 | RP | mickeyl: I just added my essid |
| 15:55.13 | mickeyl | koen? |
| 15:55.17 | mickeyl | what'S kakasi |
| 15:55.31 | koen | a cjk converter which needs to run some ninary |
| 15:55.35 | koen | binary even |
| 15:55.43 | mickeyl | right |
| 15:55.44 | koen | I wasn't sure about STAGING_BINDIR |
| 15:55.53 | mickeyl | foo-native needs to be installed there |
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| 16:05.56 | AlexTe | Ok the binary is there tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/mkkanwa but it still fails with error : | /bin/sh: line 1: src/mkkanwa: cannot execute binary file |
| 16:06.19 | hrw | 2cu |
| 16:07.24 | koen | AlexTe: you need to patch the Makefile.in (or .am) to run 'mkkanwa' instead if 'src/mkkanwa' |
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| 16:30.41 | koen | JustinP: could you check which xserver .dev builds? |
| 16:31.01 | koen | JustinP: I suspect the segfaults are being cause by xserver-kdrive-20060312 |
| 16:35.18 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r01bb9cb4... 10/conf/distro/ (3 files): distro configurations: introduce QTE_VERSION |
| 16:35.22 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7d2e948e... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable.conf: oz.conf: fix stupid typo |
| 16:35.26 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r56deba42... 10/classes/palmtop.bbclass: palmtop.bbclass: yet another typo |
| 16:35.30 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r006bb81b... 10/packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie.inc: libqpe-opie: take optional qt multithreading into account |
| 16:35.34 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rad62c55b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): libqpe/libopie: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST|PRE given in class |
| 16:35.38 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re399d3fa... 10/classes/opie.bbclass: opie.bbclass: leave one space at the end of EXTRA_* |
| 16:35.43 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1094ebfd... 10/packages/opie-freetype/opie-freetype.inc: opie-freetype: append to EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST, not override it |
| 16:35.47 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcef0047f... 10/classes/palmtop.bbclass: palmtop.bbclass: say CONFIG-=thread if we don't build against a multithreaded qt |
| 16:38.08 | koen | mickeyl: all your commits are dated ~17 hours ago, is the clock on your buildmachine allright? |
| 16:38.47 | emte | maybe cia fell asleep? |
| 16:39.12 | emte | 17 is an odd number to be skewed |
| 16:39.37 | koen | emte: I was looking at the monotone db |
| 16:40.07 | emte | ah, bad me |
| 16:40.18 | koen | but you didn't know that :) |
| 16:40.52 | emte | it was a 50/50 guess |
| 16:41.13 | emte | either had to be looking at the cia list or the repo |
| 16:44.19 | koen | bitbake 1.4 seems to be behaving quite nicely |
| 16:45.54 | emte | havent had much time for anything besides school work |
| 16:46.33 | RP | koen: You sound surprised :) |
| 16:47.33 | emte | bitbake just needs to get hit with the pretty stick |
| 16:47.45 | mickeyl | koen: mickey@c3po:/local/pkg/oe/packages/packages$ date |
| 16:47.45 | mickeyl | So Apr 23 18:47:55 CEST 2006 |
| 16:47.46 | RP | I do love the view some people have: We've a massive speed improvement so I obviously broke something and any bug found is a cache problem until proven otherwise :) |
| 16:48.01 | mickeyl | koen: perhaps merlin has a wrong time |
| 16:48.07 | emte | lol |
| 16:48.25 | mickeyl | no, merlin has a correct time as well |
| 16:48.34 | emte | the major change was just moving the cache from python to another language was it not? |
| 16:49.16 | emte | monotone db sync are a buit far apart now? |
| 16:49.17 | mickeyl | hah |
| 16:49.24 | emte | bit* |
| 16:49.25 | mickeyl | don't blame python. |
| 16:49.56 | mickeyl | usually using a better algorithm is giving more impact than using a faster language |
| 16:50.00 | mickeyl | which is what we did in this case as well |
| 16:50.10 | emte | hmm |
| 16:51.08 | emte | but lisp is everyone's parsing pal |
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| 16:52.36 | emte | occasionaly i wander across a parsing comparison, usually python is less than favorable. but you are probably right, algorithm is the largest factor |
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| 16:52.42 | zecke | koen: ;) |
| 16:53.16 | zecke | emte: context? |
| 16:53.24 | YoG | hi, did anyone managed to run openttd? |
| 16:54.20 | RP | emte: It was the same langaueg, different algorithm |
| 16:54.57 | emte | ah |
| 16:55.46 | emte | zecke, the PM give enough context for you? |
| 16:55.53 | zecke | emte: thanks a lot |
| 16:56.02 | zecke | emte: better algorithm helps a lot |
| 16:56.19 | zecke | emte: e.g. the most expensive operation update_data |
| 16:56.28 | zecke | emte: is now one of the fastest |
| 16:57.24 | emte | is there still any plans to move to sqlite? or has bb2 been shelved perm |
| 16:57.54 | zecke | emte: to solve what problem? |
| 16:57.55 | RP | emte: Not perm, just for now, until we see what we can do with the existing python codebase |
| 16:58.48 | RP | emte: In theory we could use sqlite with python. Its just slow and doesn't suit the way bitbake uses data |
| 16:59.10 | emte | zecke, was partially speed (which RP fixed) and partially a more dynamic way to handle package inheritance/dependancies wasnt it? |
| 16:59.27 | zecke | emte: yes, deps could be better |
| 16:59.39 | zecke | emte: e.g. I had a sqlite data module, it was dog slow tough |
| 17:00.23 | emte | yeah, probably for the reason RP just stated |
| 17:01.09 | zecke | emte: e.g. even packaging of glibc is way faster now |
| 17:01.28 | emte | that good, it was by far the slowest package |
| 17:02.29 | zecke | koen: mickeyl hrw|gone CoreDump|home : what do you consider of the following statement. "Drop OPIE from Angstrom" |
| 17:03.24 | emte | reminds me, i have/had a SoC idea for OE, which would help with image/usability (for newer users and business). Get someone to write the eclipse plugins for bitbake and monotone. |
| 17:03.33 | mickeyl | zecke: insane. who wants that? |
| 17:03.46 | mickeyl | Opie may not be that good, but it's usable for lots of people. |
| 17:03.47 | zecke | mickeyl: zecke said that |
| 17:03.54 | zecke | mickeyl: when is Angstrom due? |
| 17:04.07 | mickeyl | zecke: we aim the first release for 2006.9 |
| 17:04.22 | zecke | mickeyl: IMHO we have either QtopiaCore or encourage E17 or GPE/matchbox |
| 17:04.33 | zecke | in 2006.9 |
| 17:04.39 | mickeyl | let the first shock pass and let me think about that for some days |
| 17:04.45 | mickeyl | you may as well be right |
| 17:05.04 | mickeyl | QtopiaCore is nothing we can ship btw. |
| 17:05.06 | CoreDump|home | ~lart matchbox |
| 17:05.12 | mickeyl | no one wants to have just a library :D |
| 17:05.35 | zecke | mickeyl: Qtopia4 I meant ;) |
| 17:05.52 | CoreDump|home | drop opie1 and include opie2 ;) |
| 17:05.57 | mickeyl | and honestly, i think qtopia4 will suck for a lot of machines and I don't think i want to spend time to bugfix it for TT |
| 17:06.03 | mickeyl | heh, good idea |
| 17:06.07 | mickeyl | if it was 2008 |
| 17:06.09 | mickeyl | :D |
| 17:06.16 | zecke | mickeyl: well, 'we' can drop it from Angstrom then |
| 17:06.27 | zecke | Reasoning: Put preassure on TT |
| 17:07.25 | treke|home | Would they care? |
| 17:07.27 | mickeyl | no kidding. dropping opie from angstrom would be a pretty tough signal |
| 17:07.32 | mickeyl | treke|home: i think so |
| 17:08.02 | zecke | treke|home: they might care for EmbeddedLinux is Gtk+ |
| 17:08.04 | mickeyl | they always like point to OZ and the like if it benefits their marketing arguments... |
| 17:08.14 | zecke | afterall gtkmm is nice as well |
| 17:09.21 | AlexTe | I'm attempting to compile zten now, how do I make him find includes from libraries I have previously compiled ? Must install them in ${STAGING_INCDIR} ? |
| 17:09.45 | zecke | AlexTe: well, it depends |
| 17:09.58 | zecke | AlexTe: are they part of zten? or just dependencies? |
| 17:10.33 | AlexTe | it's dependancy from some library called "eb" |
| 17:10.44 | zecke | mickeyl: 'b' |
| 17:11.00 | mickeyl | ok |
| 17:11.05 | zecke | AlexTe: maybe create a directory eb in ${STAGING_INCDIR} |
| 17:11.11 | zecke | AlexTe: and install the headers there |
| 17:15.11 | zecke | emte: Currently we start to understand bitbake1 |
| 17:15.23 | emte | ? |
| 17:15.27 | zecke | emte: within a couple of month parsing speed will be not a issue |
| 17:15.33 | emte | ah |
| 17:16.03 | zecke | emte: I see not too many reasons to start bitbake2 myself then |
| 17:17.26 | emte | yeah, seeing as bitbake is an overhaul i wasnt sure if it was scraped after kergoth lost interest |
| 17:17.33 | emte | bitbake2* |
| 17:25.02 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rde84437c... 10/packages/corsair/ (3 files in 2 dirs): corsair: added 0.2.0 from .dev |
| 17:25.06 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re54d3f9c... 10/packages/corsair/corsair_0.2.0.bb: corsair: switch to tarball instead of CVS |
| 17:26.40 | hrw | CoreDump|home: altboot 1.0.6 or 1.0.7-rc2 for 3.5.4.1-rc1? |
| 17:26.44 | hrw | CoreDump|home: ping |
| 17:27.04 | CoreDump|home | 1.0.6 |
| 17:27.17 | koen | zecke: I'd rather not drop opie, but right now it's "team opie"'s call |
| 17:27.51 | hrw | ok |
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| 17:28.18 | koen | hey hrw |
| 17:28.35 | hrw | CoreDump|home: plan for OZ 3.5.4.1-rc1: altboot 1.0.6, sumtool used on images, 'fixed' arc4->wep thing |
| 17:29.18 | RP | hrw: and the kernel fixes |
| 17:29.19 | CoreDump|home | hrw: I didn't see the arc4 thingy with compiled images, only on ipkg upgrade |
| 17:29.38 | koen | zecke: you do have a point in making a 'closed source crap' version of angstrom to show you can use it as a base for $evil GUI |
| 17:29.52 | hrw | CoreDump|home: wep does not work without it |
| 17:30.10 | hrw | RP: I will use newest .oz354x kernel |
| 17:30.13 | CoreDump|home | that may be =) But maybe it is pulled into compiled images |
| 17:30.27 | RP | hrw: .dev and .oz354x are in sync |
| 17:30.39 | zecke | koen: TeamOpie = {} ;) |
| 17:31.00 | hrw | RP: yep - and I want to get info from Pavel Roskin about my hostap patches before |
| 17:31.13 | hrw | zecke: TeamOpie -= "hrw" even |
| 17:31.42 | RP | Its a shame as I like opie... |
| 17:31.57 | AlexTe | now I have an error in qpe/qpeapplication.h, can you help ? http://pastebin.com/677171 |
| 17:33.05 | zecke | AlexTe: wrong 'QMAKESPEC' |
| 17:33.15 | zecke | AlexTe: e.g. a -DQWS is missing when compiling |
| 17:33.28 | hrw | cu |
| 17:37.39 | CIA-9 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * redb2b19e... 10/classes/sanity.bbclass: sanity.bbclass: fixed typo in error message (utilits -> utility) |
| 17:45.49 | koen | RP: "Make native.bbclass set MACHINE to the build |
| 17:45.50 | koen | machine's arch and always inherit multimachine.conf" |
| 17:46.20 | koen | RP: I wrote an email with almost the exact same wording many moons ago :) |
| 17:46.49 | mickeyl | that's a slick idea |
| 17:47.04 | mickeyl | but we need to draw a line or else we build everything twice |
| 17:47.24 | mickeyl | alternatively, a good set of autofoo tests + ASSUME_PROVDIDED ;) |
| 17:48.05 | koen | mickeyl: when I was using LFS (1999-2003) there was a discussion about the 'purity' of LFS |
| 17:48.41 | koen | you need to build everything twice to garantee that the host system doesn't influence anything |
| 17:48.54 | koen | (ignoring -I/usr/include in packages) |
| 17:49.49 | mickeyl | i'm afraid users won't get this logic |
| 17:49.55 | mickeyl | or won't believe it |
| 17:50.05 | mickeyl | "i have everything, i don't _want_ OE to build it" |
| 17:50.12 | koen | yeah |
| 17:50.25 | koen | most toolchain issues aren't interesting to users |
| 17:51.03 | RP | This was what I meant by -native becomming special |
| 17:51.10 | koen | but having a flag to let OE build everything would be nice for purists |
| 17:53.03 | mickeyl | it wouldn't be such a nuisance if we had the option to do snapshots or so - so that we wouldn't have to build all native stuff again once we rebuild a distro |
| 17:53.16 | koen | donate $1M to us and we'll get OE ready for SElinux :) |
| 17:53.17 | mickeyl | snapshots would be interesting even for non-native stuff |
| 17:54.51 | RP | Its all covered by staging under packaging control |
| 17:55.49 | koen | staging under package control! |
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| 17:56.50 | RP | back later... |
| 17:58.39 | cyrilRomain | agree with koen. Even non-purist already profit from the stability of the Jackass/Rockhopper toolkits (a Gentoo installation where the toolchain is built twice). |
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| 18:00.44 | cyrilRomain | for sure, I'd be glad OE to offer such a feature :) |
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| 18:20.06 | YoG | hi, can anyone help me with openttd? |
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| 18:32.41 | mickeyl | what is openttd and what help do you need? |
| 18:33.16 | YoG | openttd is a game, its on the base feed of openzaurus (am i in the right place?) |
| 18:33.30 | mickeyl | guess #openzaurus may be the better channel |
| 18:33.56 | YoG | I'm also trying there, thanx |
| 18:33.59 | mickeyl | if the package doesn't work I recommend adding a bugtracker entry to bugs.openembedded.org -> prodcut 3.5.4 |
| 18:34.34 | YoG | I'm not sure, maybe it's just a configuration problem... |
| 18:34.55 | YoG | btw thanx for the oe sdk... I use it alot |
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| 19:00.35 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.14 | emte | looks liek it |
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| 19:30.44 | AlexTe | I finally succeded in compiling zten and its libraries thank to your instructions, it runs but it segfaults when I go in some menu :( |
| 19:31.41 | AlexTe | I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this... |
| 19:31.57 | zecke | AlexTe: install catchsegfault |
| 19:32.08 | koen | catchsegv? |
| 19:32.23 | zecke | yes |
| 19:32.31 | zecke | libsegault as well |
| 19:33.04 | koen | cachsegv should pull it in by itself |
| 19:42.04 | emte | should would could if it had a hood do do do da |
| 19:42.14 | emte | locate vxd |
| 19:43.11 | AlexTe | http://pastebin.com/677421 <-- catchsegv output |
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| 19:49.32 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra8a95de4... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: zaurus-clamshell.conf: fix jffs2 summary generation |
| 19:51.08 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 19:51.16 | mickeyl | jffs_readinode: CRC failures |
| 19:51.20 | mickeyl | is that something to worry about? |
| 19:51.46 | koen | I have a mental block against jffs2 errors, so I wouldn't know |
| 19:51.49 | emte | i would think so ... |
| 19:52.09 | emte | but maybe not as long as your not rewriting to it? |
| 19:52.20 | emte | or uising the data? |
| 19:52.32 | emte | using* |
| 20:00.40 | koen | cute: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901 |
| 20:00.49 | koen | the neverending udev story |
| 20:03.21 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8681a167... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: |
| 20:03.21 | CIA-9 | zaurus-clamshell.conf: back out the jffs2 summary patch; we need to handle that one different on c7x0 because of the extra |
| 20:03.21 | CIA-9 | sharp flash header :/ |
| 20:03.42 | koen | gah |
| 20:03.49 | koen | ~lart sharp |
| 20:04.53 | koen | mickeyl: we could however use it for the other mtd partition |
| 20:05.00 | koen | in some funky startup script |
| 20:05.40 | RP | koen: remove 16 byte header, run sumtool, add 16 byte header... |
| 20:06.12 | koen | dance around backwards, howl to the moon, run crc32 |
| 20:06.38 | RP | koen: It could be worse I guess... |
| 20:07.05 | mickeyl | RP: is there a mtd checking or low-level format tool or somethig like that? |
| 20:07.09 | mickeyl | i have new CRC errors |
| 20:08.12 | koen | flash_eraseall? |
| 20:08.28 | RP | mickeyl: My usual approach is to wipe all files and then create one big one to fill the partition |
| 20:08.53 | RP | mickeyl: The root partition is erased by updater.sh |
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| 20:09.16 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:09.20 | mickeyl | perhaps it's the 2nd partition |
| 20:10.52 | RP | mickeyl: That one shouldn't have been damaged by the above sumtool issues... |
| 20:11.13 | koen | can sumtool be ran 'online'? |
| 20:11.31 | RP | koen: I doubt it |
| 20:11.48 | cyrilRomain | .. still stuck building kernel for tosa (.dev branch openzaurus-unstable): http://oe.pastebin.com/677483 ; if 'enforce with -f' is a recommendation, how can I do that please ? |
| 20:12.03 | RP | koen: The Zaurus kernels do have summary suport enabled and have had for a while |
| 20:13.39 | RP | cyrilRomain: It looks like one of my patches is conflicting with one of Dirks - you could try commenting out the zaurus_reboot patch in the kernel .bb file |
| 20:15.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:17.03 | mickeyl | ok, my last patch gets TTF fonts back *phew* |
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| 20:17.31 | Ifaistos | greetings to all ! |
| 20:18.10 | cyrilRomain | RP: I commented zaurus_reboot patch, but bitbake now download linux-2.6.15.tar.gz; it is normal ? |
| 20:18.28 | RP | cyrilRomain: No, it should be building the 2.6.16 version |
| 20:21.03 | cyrilRomain | RP: well, ok, I removed the line instead of commenting and it's now builind 2.6.16, but another patch fails :-( |
| 20:21.25 | RP | cyrilRomain: With rejects on which file? |
| 20:21.29 | cyrilRomain | RP: http://oe.pastebin.com/677507 |
| 20:21.29 | mickeyl | zecke: hmm... dunno whether it's just me, but opie feels more sluggish with -rtti, +exceptions and -mt |
| 20:23.33 | RP | cyrilRomain: :-/. I don't know what the state of the current tosa build is. If zaurus_reboot isn't in there, it shouldn't be my patches causing that... |
| 20:24.09 | koen | mickeyl: I'm tempted to say that all those threads are fighting for fb access ;) |
| 20:25.26 | mickeyl | koen: heh. the thing is... we're not using threads... i just compiled the -mt version to get that new konqueror running |
| 20:27.07 | koen | 'night all |
| 20:27.11 | mickeyl | g'night koen |
| 20:27.35 | RP | 'night koen|sleep |
| 20:28.09 | mickeyl | what did you read? |
| 20:29.33 | RP | mickeyl: Just a random fiction book. I used to do a lot of reading until hacking got in the way... |
| 20:30.23 | RP | It was one thing I used the Zaurus for when I first got it... |
| 20:32.21 | cyrilRomain | RP: :-/ well, should I report a bug for this ? |
| 20:33.16 | RP | cyrilRomain: Leave it with me - I'll discuss it with Dirk (do13) next time I see him online |
| 20:33.29 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r86e9d63c... 10/packages/udev/udev_084.bb: udev 084: ship links.conf, patch courtesy Stelios Koroneos |
| 20:33.36 | cyrilRomain | RP: ok, thx |
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| 20:41.15 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc2ff150d... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb: |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-9 | linux-oz-2.6: Add some preliminary poodle hacks which get MMC/SD cards working, |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-9 | add suspend/resume support and working charging. There are some gross hacks |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-9 | involved but as least we know where the prolems are. This code is considered |
| 20:41.15 | CIA-9 | alpha and has bugs, hence its only enabled for poodle. |
| 20:44.53 | mickeyl | yay! |
| 20:44.57 | mickeyl | ~praise RP |
| 20:44.58 | ibot | All hail RP! |
| 20:45.41 | RP | Its a bit hacky in places but it does on the most part work. We can now think how to do it more neatly :) |
| 20:46.07 | RP | The nice bit is I didn't have to alter the core sharpsl_pm driver much to take the new machine |
| 20:46.16 | mickeyl | oh that's good |
| 20:46.26 | mickeyl | so only tosa is the charging exception |
| 20:47.00 | RP | So it seems :-/ |
| 20:48.13 | RP | You have no idea how pleased I was when poodle suspended and then resumed, seemingly without effort :) |
| 20:48.21 | mickeyl | i can roughly imagine :) |
| 20:49.15 | RP | Does that only leave poodle sound for a semi working 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:50.21 | mickeyl | please do some tests with the spectrum card |
| 20:50.25 | mickeyl | this was no go on poodle either |
| 20:50.47 | RP | No go in what way? It just didn't work with the machine? |
| 20:50.51 | mickeyl | right |
| 20:50.51 | AlexTe | According to gdb segfault is here, do you have any idea : 0x402d937c in QTextCodec::toUnicode () from /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2 |
| 20:51.06 | mickeyl | users reported "it didn't work" |
| 20:51.18 | zecke | AlexTe: hmm doesn't look right |
| 20:51.20 | zecke | AlexTe: URL zten? |
| 20:52.05 | AlexTe | http://www.gohome.org/zten/ |
| 20:52.16 | AlexTe | it's in japanese, mostly |
| 20:52.19 | zecke | lol |
| 20:52.36 | zecke | AlexTe: ah a dict |
| 20:52.48 | AlexTe | yeah, this app worked flawlessly on sharp and cacko rom |
| 20:53.01 | AlexTe | I thought it would be easy to compile it for OZ |
| 20:53.05 | mickeyl | do13: ping |
| 20:53.09 | zecke | AlexTe: well they don't use GPL versions of QtE and QPE ;) |
| 20:53.21 | zecke | AlexTe: wait a second |
| 20:53.29 | zecke | RP: you got a poodle as well? |
| 20:54.02 | zecke | mickeyl: is there a possibility in getting the C-7x0 for QtE keyboard hacking? |
| 20:54.48 | mickeyl | zecke: sure. do you want our project c750 for a while? |
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| 20:55.30 | RP | mickeyl: The spectrum card works perfectly |
| 20:55.30 | zecke | mickeyl: Let me check something first |
| 20:55.40 | RP | zecke: Yes, the one John Lenz had |
| 20:55.41 | mickeyl | RP: pretty cool. ~praise kernel 2.6 |
| 20:56.12 | RP | mickeyl: Before this it had my hostap card in so its safe to say it works just as well as the other models |
| 20:56.46 | zecke | mickeyl: hmm, I don't know if I have the time :} |
| 20:56.57 | mickeyl | zecke: ok, you'll get it after your Vordiplom |
| 20:57.01 | mickeyl | :D |
| 20:57.16 | zecke | mickeyl: haha, looking at my schedule ~6 weeks learning |
| 20:57.29 | zecke | mickeyl: 4*sessions... |
| 20:57.31 | mickeyl | do13: pingping |
| 21:04.19 | zecke | AlexTe: could you get me the URL to the source? |
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| 21:05.34 | AlexTe | SRC_URI = "http://www.gohome.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/zten.tar.gz \ |
| 21:05.37 | zecke | AlexTe: which version of EB did you use? |
| 21:05.52 | AlexTe | 4.2.2 |
| 21:06.23 | zecke | AlexTe: my debian has a package libeb7-dev is that the right version? |
| 21:06.26 | AlexTe | BTW I have enabled QEucJpCodec in my libqte, not sure it's needed but it might be a problem |
| 21:06.59 | AlexTe | not sure it's the same eb at all : http://www.sra.co.jp/people/m-kasahr/eb |
| 21:07.11 | AlexTe | sorry japanese again :) |
| 21:08.18 | zecke | AlexTe: I'm trying to build it on my x86 host |
| 21:09.15 | AlexTe | ok then you will need kakaki too : http://kakasi.namazu.org/ |
| 21:15.07 | zecke | OT: do we have mingw in OE already? |
| 21:16.46 | AlexTe | qbookentry.cpp: return QString (g_codec->toUnicode(title)); <-- it has definetely something to do with codecs |
| 21:17.05 | zecke | AlexTe: g_codec is likely to be uninitialized then |
| 21:17.14 | zecke | AlexTe: copy your built libqte to the device then |
| 21:17.44 | AlexTe | yes I'm already using my libqte codec enabled version |
| 21:19.53 | mickeyl | hmm, not bad, konq/3.5 runs |
| 21:19.59 | mickeyl | qt-mt-2.3.10 |
| 21:20.01 | mickeyl | albeit slow |
| 21:20.11 | mickeyl | and it's a qapplication |
| 21:20.16 | mickeyl | looks a bit strange |
| 21:20.27 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 21:24.00 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 21:24.17 | zecke | mickey|tv: do we use the ROAD gui? |
| 21:25.01 | mickey|tv | ya, --enable-gui=ROAD is listed in .conf |
| 21:25.08 | mickey|tv | EXTRA_OECONF even |
| 21:27.15 | zecke | mickey|tv: was it -nodaemon for QtE? |
| 21:31.30 | zecke | AlexTe: I see some uninitialized vars in QtE, but nothing that is really broken |
| 21:32.44 | zecke | AlexTe: gosh, that qbookentry.cpp is fun.. |
| 21:33.49 | zecke | AlexTe: start by doing g_codec = NULL; in qbookentry.cpp |
| 21:36.12 | AlexTe | QTextCodec* g_codec; <-- here ? |
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| 21:37.05 | zecke | AlexTe: yes |
| 21:37.11 | zecke | qbookentry.cpp:532: if (g_codec == NULL) |
| 21:37.20 | zecke | AlexTe: it looks like g_codec is never set to NULL |
| 21:37.29 | zecke | AlexTe: so g_codec will never be initialized |
| 21:37.37 | zecke | AlexTe: and yes we need eucJP encoding |
| 21:38.27 | AlexTe | compiling... |
| 21:45.19 | zecke | AlexTe: and, and, and? |
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| 21:46.09 | AlexTe | sorry same segfault |
| 21:46.28 | AlexTe | but this function is used in other files, maybe I should patch them too |
| 21:46.37 | AlexTe | ztenbook.cpp and ztencandidate.cpp |
| 21:46.48 | zecke | AlexTe: g_codec? |
| 21:47.00 | zecke | AlexTe: use something like printf to print g_codec |
| 21:47.09 | zecke | AlexTe: I suspect it is uninitialized |
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| 22:02.25 | AlexTe | I dont see my printfs so that code is never used apparently : if (g_codec == NULL) ... |
| 22:04.45 | AlexTe | oh wait |
| 22:05.19 | zecke | wtf my partition table is lost again |
| 22:05.44 | AlexTe | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.56 | AlexTe | it was about unicode so... |
| 22:06.30 | zecke | *pissed off* |
| 22:07.15 | zecke | damn |
| 22:07.42 | zecke | anyway to recover the partition tabele? |
| 22:08.53 | AlexTe | if you know the exact size you can just recreate it |
| 22:09.09 | emte | zecke, is this your host system? |
| 22:09.14 | zecke | AlexTe: well, I don't know it |
| 22:09.17 | zecke | emte: yes ;) |
| 22:09.29 | zecke | I think I need windows fdisk to reinitialize the disk... |
| 22:09.37 | emte | ... |
| 22:10.09 | emte | you could use one of the partition tools/disk manuf tools to back it up next time ... |
| 22:10.27 | zecke | invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 |
| 22:10.41 | emte | partition table 4? |
| 22:10.55 | zecke | will be corrected by w(rite) |
| 22:10.59 | emte | ... why do you have more than one partition table? |
| 22:11.01 | zecke | emte: well, write doesn't fix it |
| 22:11.09 | zecke | dunno |
| 22:12.02 | zecke | this included BitBake, OE, $HOME and backups |
| 22:12.09 | zecke | throws the system out of the window |
| 22:12.29 | johnX | how complex is your partitioning scheme? (ie, number of paritions) |
| 22:12.31 | emte | i take it eth partitions still exist in fdisk? |
| 22:12.46 | emte | if so write down all the sizes adn rebuild the table |
| 22:12.53 | emte | is about all i can reccomend |
| 22:13.10 | zecke | johnX: ~4 |
| 22:13.17 | zecke | johnX: basicly all are lvm2 partitions |
| 22:13.21 | pb_ | zecke: good evening |
| 22:13.28 | zecke | emte: 'p' shows no partitions |
| 22:13.42 | johnX | er...I have no experience with lvm2 otherwise I'd offer to help |
| 22:13.50 | emte | thats bad, perhaps the MBR on your drive is failing |
| 22:14.09 | johnX | Looks like it's time to break out your hex editor... |
| 22:14.12 | emte | unless you installed it bootsector ... |
| 22:14.26 | emte | brb |
| 22:14.53 | AlexTe | http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk |
| 22:15.08 | AlexTe | I once had success restore my partition table with this tool |
| 22:15.21 | AlexTe | takes ages to scan the while disk though |
| 22:15.26 | AlexTe | *whole |
| 22:18.24 | AlexTe | zten works fine, thanks for the help ! I will polish my .bb files, and hope this can be added to OZ |
| 22:19.10 | emte | present for you zecke maybe it will help |
| 22:21.09 | zecke | AlexTe: nice hint |
| 22:23.00 | zecke | AlexTe: wow, thanks |
| 22:24.05 | zecke | wow it worked |
| 22:24.19 | zecke | good nite |
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| 23:50.53 | Zero_Chaos | how do I use ":se noai |
| 23:50.53 | Zero_Chaos | abitbake-1.4 stable branch:se ai |
| 23:51.18 | Zero_Chaos | how do I use bitbake-1.4 stable branch? my bitbake just started saying it's too advanced for me :-) |
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