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| 02:53.14 | JustinP | emte: yeah, ipaq-sleep is used in OZ..... |
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| 04:31.31 | JustinP | why the hell is locale-base-de-de installed? |
| 04:34.16 | treke|home | *points at the germans* |
| 04:37.38 | JustinP | koen|away: well, Opie EABI image boots fine and seems to work |
| 04:38.29 | JustinP | koen|away: gpe-image locked up boot while configuring locale-base-de-de (will try again) |
| 04:38.54 | JustinP | koen|away: e-image got into xtscal but it wouldn't respond...then e came up fine. Killed X and second X locked up the device |
| 04:42.28 | JustinP | koen|away: well, it gpe doesn't lick up, it just stops on configuring locale-base-de-de and won't let me break or login of anything |
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| 06:27.06 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 06:53.34 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3486b9cd... 10/packages/sword/sword_1.5.8.bb: sword: inherit pkgconfig so gnomesword will build |
| 06:53.41 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc96bc812... 10/packages/sword/gnomesword_2.1.2.bb: gnomesword: added 2.1.2 from .dev |
| 06:53.42 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r863f2d91... 10/packages/hostap/ (hostap-modules.inc hostap-modules_0.4.7.bb): hostap-modules 0.4.7: stage hostap_common.h header to get wpa-supplicant built with hostap support |
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| 06:53.46 | CIA-9 | wpa-supplicant 0.4.8: enabled hostap & hermes support |
| 06:53.47 | CIA-9 | - it need to DEPEND on hostap-modules (0.4.7 builds for 2.4.18 and 2.6.16) |
| 06:53.47 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:04.35 | JustinP | damn, looks like you caught me... |
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| 07:05.51 | JustinP | altboot kicks so much ass |
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| 07:06.26 | JustinP | hrw|gone: gpe-image for 3.5.4.1-a3 doesn't seem to shutdown (init 6) |
| 07:17.49 | fishhead | can anyone here give me a honest opinion on rounded ide cables, proper ones with twisted pair wires, shielding etc |
| 07:27.53 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 07:34.56 | zecke | moin |
| 07:35.14 | shiyee | morn |
| 07:36.52 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:37.26 | hrw|work | JustinP: CoreDump|afk told that this is bug in 2.6.16 behaviour - remove 'dd' from script and it will work |
| 07:39.47 | hrw|work | CoreDump|afk: rename 1.0.7-rc1 to 1.0.6+1.0.7-rc1 before it get used by people.. |
| 07:40.37 | JustinP | hrw|work: you mean in the gpe-dm init script? |
| 07:40.45 | hrw|work | JustinP: yep |
| 07:40.54 | JustinP | ok |
| 07:40.57 | JustinP | will try it |
| 07:41.14 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 07:41.51 | zecke | pb_: do you know the status of hh.org SummerOfCode 2006 |
| 07:42.35 | pb_ | zecke: no, I don't. I think Erik was going to offer for hh.org to be a mentoring organisation, but I haven't heard any more than that. |
| 07:42.48 | zecke | pb_: we are listed as one IIRC |
| 07:42.53 | pb_ | ah, very good |
| 07:42.59 | zecke | could have been a bad dream though |
| 07:43.08 | pb_ | I know several people have volunteered to be mentors |
| 07:43.08 | zecke | no dreaming |
| 07:43.23 | zecke | pb_: we need some kind of 'Hey dudes, you are welcome' |
| 07:43.41 | zecke | pb_: 'Important for us is..., maybe one of these topics suit your desire' - site |
| 07:43.49 | pb_ | yeah, indeed. we had one of those last year. |
| 07:44.06 | pb_ | let me try to find it |
| 07:44.55 | zecke | *destroy GPE from the inside* ;) |
| 07:45.04 | pb_ | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode |
| 07:45.17 | pb_ | of course, that page now reflects the end of the SoC rather than the beginning, but still |
| 07:45.45 | zecke | pb_: are you familiar with the 'main site' of hh.org? |
| 07:45.59 | pb_ | not really. why do you ask? |
| 07:46.27 | zecke | pb_: it is awesome to have this wiki site |
| 07:46.33 | zecke | pb_: we need to link to it though ;) |
| 07:46.59 | pb_ | yeah |
| 07:47.14 | pb_ | last year I think it was linked from the handhelds.org front page and from the code.google.com site |
| 07:47.36 | zecke | (Ideas) yes, we don't have that ;) |
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| 07:52.44 | njs | I just did all the SoC forms and stuff, if people are curious how they work :-) |
| 07:53.57 | zecke | njs: I 'delegated' to the summer-administration mailing list first |
| 07:54.18 | zecke | njs: if Erik or France say they are overloaded, I might help and come back to you |
| 07:54.48 | zecke | njs: Do you think a students knows what monotone is about? |
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| 07:55.36 | njs | zecke: not sure what you mean? |
| 07:55.54 | pb_ | zecke: obviously handhelds.org would be delighted to sponsor your efforts to destroy GPE. |
| 07:56.06 | pb_ | that sounds like an excellent project |
| 07:56.24 | njs | hah |
| 07:57.02 | zecke | njs: for hh.org I fear we won't get any students ;) |
| 07:57.31 | njs | last year monotone got the fewest apps of any SoC sponsor :-) |
| 07:57.33 | zecke | njs: they navigate to code.google.com... find hh.org, maybe click on the link to hh.org and wonder what it is all about |
| 07:58.19 | zecke | njs: and close the window. I wonder how one can transport the message "hh.org is right for you, it is fun staying here" |
| 07:58.37 | njs | if you figure it out, let me know ;-) |
| 07:58.59 | njs | (this time there's a little project blurb you can fill out in the project admin screen, that shows up on the google site) |
| 07:59.22 | pb_ | zecke: last year we had somewhere between 50 and 100 applications, from what I remember |
| 07:59.25 | njs | e.g., http://code.google.com/soc/monotone/about.html |
| 07:59.39 | zecke | pb_: oh, good :) |
| 08:00.02 | pb_ | we certainly ended up with a shortlist of about 20 from which we needed to select five. |
| 08:00.11 | zecke | pb_: I'm consider applying at NetBSD (QtopiaCore port), or hh.org (Show how crappy GPE is - dogtail testing) |
| 08:00.36 | pb_ | very good |
| 08:00.51 | pb_ | I'd certainly encourage you to apply for the hh.org project. |
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| 08:06.20 | XorA | morning |
| 08:07.53 | katossi_ | hi, is gcj compiled by default with gcc? |
| 08:09.17 | pb_ | depends on your architecture |
| 08:09.20 | pb_ | I think it is on i386 |
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| 08:10.15 | RP | JustinP, hrw: I have a fix for the dd issue |
| 08:10.46 | JustinP | RP: cool ^_^ |
| 08:11.28 | hrw|work | zecke: bitbake 1.4.0 is fscking awesome! |
| 08:11.49 | hrw|work | 1m52s for 1st go, 2s for cached.... jeez.. |
| 08:12.14 | njs | ;-) |
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| 08:14.35 | RP | hrw|work: The cache changes on top of zecke's COW work make it fly :) |
| 08:15.04 | katossi_ | zecke: have you tried gcj only with 4.01 or with 4.1 as well? |
| 08:15.08 | hrw|work | http://www.pcsystemsdirect.com/topdeal.htm - dell discounts for desktop/notebooks |
| 08:19.21 | katossi_ | hrw|work: only for USA shop, is isn't it? |
| 08:19.30 | goxboxlive | What about bitbake 1.5.0 is it stable and fast? I am using 1.3.9 at the moment, should i upgrade? |
| 08:21.01 | hrw|work | katossi_: I suspect it |
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| 08:27.54 | RP | do13: ping? |
| 08:28.29 | hrw|work | RP: I got hostap-ids patch from maintainer |
| 08:29.39 | zecke | 4.0.x only |
| 08:29.52 | zecke | goxboxlive: do you want something stable or not stable? |
| 08:30.02 | zecke | goxboxlive: we have a 1.4 stable branch (not the fastest and latest) |
| 08:30.09 | zecke | goxboxlive: but stable and fast enough |
| 08:30.19 | RP | hrw|work: ah good. I never got a response from the hostap people about mickeyl's oops :-( |
| 08:31.54 | zecke | http://survey.openembedded.org/index.php?sid=2&newtest=Y what do you think? |
| 08:33.03 | hrw|work | Entrepreneur? |
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| 08:33.35 | CIA-9 | linux-oz-2.6: 2.6.16 updates |
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| 08:33.36 | hrw|work | had to look into dict.. |
| 08:33.58 | hrw|work | RP: can you push this into .oz354x? so I will add my changes into this then |
| 08:34.05 | zecke | hrw|work: I had to look into the dict to get the right spelling |
| 08:34.19 | goxboxlive | zecke: Ok, i c. I just downloaded it using SVN. Jave to look for the 1.4 version then. :-) . BTW, i have builded and builded, all works great now. Actually, i am affraid to do a monotone update because maybe all might break again. Do u think it's safe to update the branch? |
| 08:34.21 | zecke | hrw|work: I have ~10 more questions, and then we should consider starting the survey :} |
| 08:34.31 | hrw|work | zecke: add X86 to platform list |
| 08:34.37 | RP | hrw|work: ok |
| 08:34.41 | zecke | hrw|work: X86 is crap ;) |
| 08:35.05 | hrw|work | zecke: is but people are using for this |
| 08:35.30 | RP | zecke: I use OE for professional and private purposes :) |
| 08:37.13 | hrw|work | fsck... forgot usbnet cable... |
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| 08:42.51 | RP | hrw|work: That changelog was truncated above - what was also in there was fixing reboot and halt handling |
| 08:43.41 | hrw|work | great |
| 08:43.50 | hrw|work | RP: so 'reboot' reboots now? |
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| 08:48.33 | zecke_ | re |
| 08:48.42 | zecke_ | ~lart nameservers |
| 08:49.05 | RP | hrw|work: correct. In theory - The devices are all different so lets hope I got it right |
| 08:49.45 | hrw|work | ok |
| 09:10.28 | Genesis | does kdrive support multihead ? |
| 09:11.33 | koen|away | Genesis: iirc it does, but I;'m not sure |
| 09:16.12 | koen|work | XorA: "I havn't had much experience with the plugins; probably best if you file |
| 09:16.13 | koen|work | bugs against the individual plugins into the our bugzilla and attach the |
| 09:16.13 | koen|work | relevant voodoo, and any observations you might have made. |
| 09:16.15 | koen|work | " |
| 09:16.15 | zecke_ | goxboxlive: well, you can create a branch (locally) |
| 09:16.35 | koen|work | XorA: that was tf's answer about the plugin problems |
| 09:21.44 | XorA | koen|work: crap, Im kind of against filing a general bug against the whole of abiword-plugins when the problem is almost certainly how we build it |
| 09:22.32 | koen|work | XorA: that was my thought as well, but I can see that documenting it in their bugtracker would have some value as well |
| 09:24.28 | hrw|work | zecke_: question about RAM in host machine.. make it <256M, 256M, 512M, 1G, >1G maybe? |
| 09:24.31 | XorA | koen|work: well if we file it, maybe we persuade one of them of the goodness of OE :-) |
| 09:24.50 | koen|work | :) |
| 09:25.52 | RP | koen|work: If there are some none invasive changes that could be made to abiword to work better with OE, its probably worth suggesting them |
| 09:26.24 | koen|work | RP: we suspect abi-plugins is having problems with being crosscompiled |
| 09:26.58 | koen|work | I asked tf if he knew any usual suspects |
| 09:27.25 | RP | koen|work: I thought it might have been tf you asked :) |
| 09:27.40 | XorA | RP: its one of these annoying cases where the building is easy, but the result doesnt work |
| 09:27.50 | koen|work | having o-hand minions to abuse is quite nice ;) |
| 09:27.54 | zecke_ | http://survey.openembedded.org/index.php?sid=2&newtest=Y |
| 09:28.00 | zecke_ | first round of questions |
| 09:28.12 | RP | XorA: The build logs don't show anything useful? |
| 09:28.23 | RP | koen|work: ;-) |
| 09:28.26 | RP | koen|work: You have a c700? |
| 09:28.33 | njs | zecke_: what are you using for that? |
| 09:28.34 | koen|work | RP: I have |
| 09:28.39 | koen|work | (199.3 km away atm) |
| 09:28.42 | XorA | RP: no, all its doing is making some .so files as plugins, but they wont actually load into abiword |
| 09:28.55 | RP | koen|work: How does reboot and halt behave on it? |
| 09:29.19 | RP | XorA: It uses the right compiler/linker? |
| 09:29.40 | XorA | RP: yes they are valid ARM shared libs |
| 09:29.42 | zecke_ | njs: Too many reasons (which is bad - I know) |
| 09:29.47 | koen|work | RP: no idea, I never reboot :) |
| 09:29.56 | njs | zecke_: hrm? |
| 09:30.09 | njs | zecke_: I actually meant, what software are you using to run it? :-) |
| 09:30.11 | zecke_ | njs: I want to identify the 'really' primary use case, I want to get an idea how many people are actually using OE (amount) |
| 09:30.25 | zecke_ | njs: that is phpsurveyor |
| 09:30.28 | RP | koen|work: ok, next time you have it handy, I'd be interested to know what they do and whether the kernel changes I just made make things better/worse/indifferent |
| 09:30.31 | koen|work | zecke_: 'Which tools do you use to communicate with the OpenEmbedded developers?' |
| 09:30.39 | koen|work | zecke_: that implies multiple answer |
| 09:30.43 | koen|work | answers* |
| 09:30.56 | koen|work | RP: I'll test it after the weekend |
| 09:31.09 | RP | koen|work: thanks |
| 09:31.10 | zecke_ | koen|work: right, wait a second |
| 09:31.27 | njs | zecke_: though I know what you mean! we have a huge list of things we're curious about (http://venge.net/monotone/wiki/SurveyQuestions), and I am not sure how to make them into a reasonable survey :-) |
| 09:31.47 | RP | koen|work: c700 is different to the c7[56]0 in that respect. I'm not sure it can halt |
| 09:31.58 | koen|work | RP: I see |
| 09:32.02 | koen|work | anyway, lunch time |
| 09:32.14 | zecke_ | njs: yeah, creating the questions is one thing, getting answers another |
| 09:32.22 | zecke_ | njs: but finding the results... :} |
| 09:32.44 | zecke_ | njs: e.g. we suspect many people are using OE, I only know about ~20 though ;) |
| 09:33.06 | zecke_ | njs: We know our documentation sucks, but is that really a problem :} |
| 09:47.11 | XorA | RP: what is SSP? |
| 09:47.29 | RP | XorA: A serial communications bus |
| 09:47.45 | RP | XorA: The race was theoretical |
| 09:47.57 | XorA | RP: anything to do with SD cards? |
| 09:48.14 | RP | XorA: nothing at all |
| 09:49.08 | XorA | RP: ok, I just ask as I see a problem when I ipkg install something as large as gimp or firefox, 75% of the time ipkg will end up in d state and I need to sysreq reboot to get SD working again |
| 09:49.22 | XorA | RP: no messages in dmesg to help :-( |
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| 09:50.11 | RP | XorA: You're installing from which media onto which other media? |
| 09:50.29 | XorA | RP: network to SD |
| 09:50.46 | XorA | RP: but also happens CF to SD as well |
| 09:51.10 | RP | So it looks like an SD bug. I've not seen that one... |
| 09:51.39 | zecke_ | did anyone try to parse binary files with flex yet? |
| 09:51.45 | XorA | RP: yeah, I think its card dependant |
| 09:52.19 | RP | XorA: Card dependant means we're unlikely to find a fix :-( |
| 09:52.42 | XorA | RP: well at least hrw|work says he doesnt see it, I do on both the card I use |
| 09:53.06 | RP | zecke_: I'll have a look survey later btw |
| 09:53.23 | RP | XorA: I don't use SD much - the MD spoils me... |
| 09:53.29 | zecke_ | RP: which survey - a ka reduce bias |
| 09:53.42 | XorA | RP: if I could afford Id upgrade to a MD machine and just forget SD exists |
| 09:54.38 | RP | XorA: I just wish I could actually use my device for fun stuff :) |
| 09:54.50 | zecke_ | mithro: hey, how far is your dict? |
| 09:55.16 | hrw|work | zecke_: add body {color:black} into CSS of survey |
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| 09:55.49 | XorA | RP: :-( |
| 09:56.15 | zecke_ | hrw|work: you clearly overestimate my skills |
| 09:57.02 | XorA | I assume I can use ipkg with offline root to install an ipk on build machine, then put SD card in Z and do ipkg configure? |
| 10:00.25 | hrw|work | zecke_: w8 |
| 10:00.41 | zecke_ | hrw|work: let us get the questions sorted out |
| 10:00.48 | zecke_ | hrw|work: we can play with the templates then (look) |
| 10:01.29 | hrw|work | zecke_: ok - its in templates/default/startpage.pstpl |
| 10:03.25 | zecke_ | hehe |
| 10:03.50 | zecke_ | hrw|work: I'm currently looking on how to make token less surveys |
| 10:04.25 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:05.20 | RP | XorA: yes |
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| 10:10.27 | XorA | koen|away: http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10198 |
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| 10:36.27 | XorA | muttng |
| 10:39.33 | hrw|work | ~lart rmk |
| 10:39.40 | XorA | erp |
| 10:39.53 | hrw|work | ibot: bad lart.. |
| 10:39.54 | ibot | Bad lart.., bad! No cookie for you! |
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| 10:45.36 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r5a4da1dc... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf: openzaurus 3.5.4.1: hostap-modules 0.4.7 are preferred, not 0.3.9 |
| 10:48.17 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.oz354x * rd007d38e... 10/packages/linux/ (6 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Sync with .dev |
| 10:48.46 | hrw|work | thx RP |
| 10:49.53 | RP | hrw|work: I've realised I messed it up a bit - have pushed a fix and dropped 2.6.15 |
| 10:50.45 | RP | hrw|work: (The fixes to linux-openzaurus.inc in .dev were important but broke 2.615) |
| 10:51.28 | hrw|work | cant we just drop 2.6.15? |
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| 10:52.09 | RP | hrw|work: I have :) |
| 10:54.11 | CIA-9 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.oz354x * r64128d10... 10/packages/linux/ (16 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Drop 2.6.15. Add missing 2.6.16 defconfigs |
| 10:56.21 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:56.29 | hrw|work | RP: my change to 2.6.16 kernel |
| 10:56.59 | RP | hrw|work: That's quite a few :) |
| 10:58.33 | hrw|work | I'm now working on new version of just pushed patch |
| 10:59.46 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r10e71162... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added some PCMCIA ids from Pavel Roskin (this will go into 2.6.17) and other places |
| 11:01.11 | hrw|work | and now same into .dev |
| 11:02.37 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc1e2b56f... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added some PCMCIA ids from Pavel Roskin (this will go into 2.6.17) and other places |
| 11:13.48 | hrw|work | is there tool like diffdiff? |
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| 11:54.54 | hrw|work | RP: 21 13:54 < sashz> So kernel 2.6 pdaXrom development stoping, but i already made overlays, overclocking, fix reset time during reboot and QVGA mode ;) |
| 11:55.40 | zecke | he? |
| 11:56.10 | hrw|work | probably collected patches from places |
| 11:56.33 | zecke | I don't get what is stopping |
| 11:57.11 | hrw|work | zecke: his akita died |
| 11:57.23 | RP | hrw|work: Can he send me his patches? |
| 11:57.27 | zecke | 2.6er kernel is bad then |
| 11:57.31 | hrw|work | RP: join #cacko |
| 11:58.54 | RP | hrw|work: I've asked him... |
| 11:58.59 | hrw|work | ah |
| 11:59.03 | RP | hrw|work: Do you know what killed his akita? |
| 11:59.16 | hrw|work | no |
| 11:59.48 | RP | hehe. Lots of people in #cacko :) |
| 11:59.49 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.com/673118 |
| 12:00.06 | hrw|work | RP: log from channel |
| 12:01.14 | zecke | is sashz a bot? |
| 12:01.21 | mickeyl | ported from pycore? |
| 12:01.25 | mickeyl | phycore even |
| 12:01.27 | mickeyl | what's that? |
| 12:01.32 | pb__ | hail mickeyl |
| 12:01.33 | hrw|work | phycore is devboard on pxa27x |
| 12:01.41 | mickeyl | ah, k |
| 12:01.44 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
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| 12:02.15 | Genesis | yopyop |
| 12:02.22 | RP | mickeyl: phycore was some device that uses intel's pxa270 patches as a base |
| 12:05.33 | mickeyl | i see |
| 12:05.36 | mickeyl | uh oh |
| 12:05.42 | mickeyl | look at that: |
| 12:05.51 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 3409424 2006-04-20 10:28:53 ./opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2.3.10 |
| 12:06.03 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 4925464 2006-04-21 14:02:46 ./opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte-mt.so.2.3.13 |
| 12:06.14 | mickeyl | that's because of a) threading b) exceptions c) RTTI |
| 12:06.18 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 12:06.25 | pb__ | crumbs |
| 12:06.43 | zecke | mickeyl: enable visibility changes ;) |
| 12:07.07 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:07.56 | zecke | mickeyl: there was already code in the qte.bb |
| 12:08.10 | mickeyl | ya |
| 12:08.13 | mickeyl | i just enabled it |
| 12:08.16 | mickeyl | lets see if it builds |
| 12:08.41 | mickeyl | porting UBOOT to the Zaurus would rock |
| 12:11.30 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/ - can someone look at hostap-* patches? |
| 12:12.32 | mickeyl | i don't think /* Compaq WL100 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter */ is such a good ide |
| 12:12.33 | mickeyl | a |
| 12:12.40 | mickeyl | isn't that a hermes chipset? |
| 12:12.44 | mickeyl | +using |
| 12:13.13 | hrw|work | we had it in hostap_cs.conf so I added it |
| 12:13.42 | mickeyl | we need to find that out. i prefer using orinoco for everything hermes |
| 12:14.21 | hrw|work | and it is already in hostap_cs.c |
| 12:16.06 | mickeyl | RP: did we get a response because of SanDisk crash-at-suspend yet? |
| 12:16.28 | mickeyl | nslu-folks: anyone using wlan-ng with their slug? |
| 12:16.29 | RP | mickeyl: No repsonse at all |
| 12:16.31 | mickeyl | darn |
| 12:17.31 | RP | Apparently pxafb is only used by cxx00 so its ok to hack QVGA support into it |
| 12:18.16 | mickeyl | -rwxr-xr-x 1 mickey abvs 5573696 2006-04-21 14:15 libqte-mt.so.2.3.13 |
| 12:18.25 | mickeyl | with the visibility stuff |
| 12:18.25 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 12:18.34 | hrw|work | does it had to be smaller? |
| 12:18.39 | mickeyl | i thought so |
| 12:18.43 | mickeyl | i have no idea about that stuff though |
| 12:19.01 | hrw|work | btw - can I skip patch using quilt? |
| 12:19.01 | pb__ | it certainly shouldn't have made it bigger. |
| 12:19.14 | pb__ | normally you'd expect a size reduction, and in the worst case it ought to make no difference |
| 12:19.23 | mickeyl | pb_: yeah, that's kind of bogus |
| 12:19.45 | pb__ | I wonder what those crazy trolls can have done |
| 12:19.46 | zecke | mickeyl: is that stripped? |
| 12:20.04 | zecke | pb__: if we have inlines hidden on, I can't imagine this makes a size increase |
| 12:20.29 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:20.42 | mickeyl | after upgrading to bitbake 1.4.0, my files no longer get packaged |
| 12:21.09 | pb__ | oh dear |
| 12:24.08 | RP | bitbake is also behaving in an "interesting" fashion on the machine I just did an svn up on :-/ |
| 12:24.10 | mickeyl | r458 correctly packages, r459 and r460 don't |
| 12:24.21 | zecke | mickeyl: 1.4.0? |
| 12:24.27 | RP | r460 doesn't download patches properly either |
| 12:24.39 | zecke | smells like COW to me (not 1.4.0) |
| 12:24.55 | mickeyl | dunno. which rev corresponds to 140? |
| 12:24.56 | mickeyl | (HEAD) |
| 12:25.09 | zecke | mickeyl: I try to find out |
| 12:25.48 | zecke | 459,460 are COW changes ;) |
| 12:25.53 | zecke | and yes they are broken :} |
| 12:26.00 | zecke | mickeyl: we have a stable branch for a reason ;) |
| 12:26.17 | mickeyl | right |
| 12:26.30 | mickeyl | guess i do further devel on that stable branch |
| 12:27.03 | RP | 458 is looking much better to me as well |
| 12:27.12 | zecke | and BTW: it printed BitBake 1.5.0 ;) |
| 12:27.21 | zecke | RP: My second COW failed as well ;) |
| 12:27.32 | zecke | RP: mithro spotted the error yesterday |
| 12:28.09 | RP | zecke: Working COW seems to be quite tricky to get right :-/ |
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| 12:28.24 | zecke | RP: well we succeeded with data_smart |
| 12:28.39 | zecke | RP: but I want to do tricks to avoid the not too good lookup method :} |
| 12:29.29 | zecke | ~lart Gtk+ |
| 12:29.38 | zecke | ~lart debian for packaging gtk+ |
| 12:29.48 | mickeyl | ok, now lets see if we can build an opie image against that libqt-mt |
| 12:33.03 | zecke | mickeyl: I would like to find out, if the symbol count decreased at least |
| 12:33.03 | mickeyl | zecke: i can check that for you later |
| 12:33.03 | mickeyl | that is... give you the binaries :) |
| 12:33.03 | zecke | pb__: what headers/package do I need for GdkPixbuf? |
| 12:33.03 | pb__ | zecke: gtk-2.0 |
| 12:33.04 | pb__ | and, in your case, probably gtkmm :-} |
| 12:33.04 | zecke | pb__: hehe |
| 12:33.04 | zecke | pb__: *gdk-pixbuf-gnome2 |
| 12:33.04 | zecke | pb__: what version of Gtk+ will this need? |
| 12:33.08 | pb__ | not sure. where are you seeing that? |
| 12:33.27 | zecke | pb__: in aptitude |
| 12:33.41 | zecke | pb__: I used apt-get build-dep librsvg now :} |
| 12:33.48 | zecke | *shitload of gnome libs installed now* |
| 12:34.53 | zecke | ah built, now kill GtdPixbuf |
| 12:35.35 | pb__ | ah right |
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| 13:30.30 | RP | The poodle has arrived btw :) |
| 13:30.35 | mickeyl | good to know |
| 13:30.39 | mickeyl | how does it look like? |
| 13:31.10 | RP | mickeyl: Its running OZ 3.5.2 and a 2.6.12-rc5 kernel :) |
| 13:31.46 | hrw|work | RP: post on oz.org about it please |
| 13:31.54 | hrw|work | ~change 400 pln to eur |
| 13:31.59 | mickeyl | RP: 3.5.2 ? woot |
| 13:32.40 | RP | mickeyl: That will soon be 3.4.5.1 and a 2.6.16 kernel ;-) |
| 13:33.08 | mickeyl | :)) |
| 13:33.10 | mickeyl | cool |
| 13:34.37 | vektorgirl | hi everyone |
| 13:34.49 | vektorgirl | have a nice friday afternoon! |
| 13:37.57 | vektorgirl | did anyone manage to build an openembedded image these days? i think i've got an very stupid error. bitbake always fails when trying to get any of the defined sources, manual editing did not help... |
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| 13:39.16 | mickeyl | pastebin a complete run and let us see |
| 13:39.24 | mickeyl | ~pastebin |
| 13:39.27 | ibot | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 13:39.27 | vektorgirl | k |
| 13:39.56 | mickeyl | ibot: pastebin is also for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com |
| 13:39.57 | ibot | mickeyl: okay |
| 13:39.59 | mickeyl | ~pastebin |
| 13:40.00 | ibot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com |
| 13:42.45 | vektorgirl | http://pastebin.com/673266 |
| 13:43.00 | vektorgirl | i already changed the definition |
| 13:43.40 | vektorgirl | of the source-package in the .bb-file, but the error is basically the same |
| 13:44.16 | RP | hrw|work: posted to oz.org |
| 13:45.27 | hrw|work | thx |
| 13:45.34 | mickeyl | vektorgirl: add INHERIT += patcher into your local.conf |
| 13:45.36 | mickeyl | then try again |
| 13:45.45 | vektorgirl | k |
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| 13:47.16 | hrw|work | hmm.. why we not fetch quilt from tarballs? |
| 13:47.21 | hrw|work | http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/quilt/ |
| 13:47.28 | vektorgirl | i did this before |
| 13:47.46 | Ken|JLime | Who should I talk with about doing a familiar sh3 port? |
| 13:48.04 | mithro | somebody said my name? |
| 13:48.57 | vektorgirl | put the file to the source directory, and added an file:// entry, it did not work, so i think my error is derived from a different source, as i did not find any .bb files ready to compile |
| 13:49.14 | emte | Ken|JLime, i belive you volunteer yourself |
| 13:49.43 | Ken|JLime | yeah |
| 13:49.48 | Ken|JLime | just want some quick info |
| 13:51.05 | emte | read the handhelds.org wiki? |
| 13:51.15 | emte | or look at examples? |
| 13:51.29 | pb__ | Ken|JLime: familiar-dev@handhelds.org |
| 13:51.52 | vektorgirl | i'm basically following the wiki page GettingStarted at http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted yeah |
| 13:52.16 | cedric | RP: nice! |
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| 13:57.05 | Ken|JLime | When adding familiar as distro it complains about version, where should i put what? :) stupid question i know |
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| 13:57.44 | emte | distro = "familiar-0.8.4" |
| 13:57.54 | Ken|JLime | thx |
| 13:57.57 | emte | local.conf |
| 13:58.12 | emte | or familiar-unstable in your case |
| 13:58.24 | emte | if your starting dev on a new machine |
| 13:58.54 | Ken|JLime | The machine has been supported for awhile, just havent gotten round to creating a familiar release for it |
| 13:59.24 | emte | ah |
| 14:04.01 | Ken|JLime | When using unstable version will it just wget the latest versions of programs? When will the freeze begin? |
| 14:05.01 | mickeyl | once a branch splits of |
| 14:05.02 | mickeyl | f |
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| 14:05.32 | Ken|JLime | How you mean |
| 14:05.49 | mickeyl | release stablizing is done in branches other than .dev |
| 14:05.52 | mickeyl | .dev is for development |
| 14:06.59 | Ken|JLime | Aha, I understand. |
| 14:07.03 | hrw|work | Ken|JLime: .oz354fam083 was used to release openzaurus 3.5.4 and then familiar team use it for Familiar 0.8.3/0.8.4 |
| 14:07.15 | hrw|work | Ken|JLime: .oz354x is for OZ 3.5.4.1 and future |
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| 14:08.29 | Ken|JLime | what branch is used for current 0.8.4? |
| 14:09.46 | Ken|JLime | org.openembedded.oz354fam083? |
| 14:09.48 | mickeyl | oz354fam083 |
| 14:09.50 | mickeyl | yep |
| 14:10.05 | mickeyl | because 083 got relabelled |
| 14:10.20 | Ken|JLime | ah, oki. Will work on that one then. Btw, is there any chance of getting a sh3 release with the coming 0.8.4 release? or is it frozen? |
| 14:10.36 | mickeyl | you have to take that up with reenoo |
| 14:10.43 | hrw|work | I do not think that familiar guys will add !arm now.. |
| 14:11.02 | Ken|JLime | Oki |
| 14:14.58 | mickeyl | adding support to .dev will be a good idea as well |
| 14:15.22 | mickeyl | in case another version of an oe-based familiar will see the light of day, it will most likely be branched off of .dev as well |
| 14:15.36 | mickeyl | well... that may be true or not |
| 14:15.45 | mickeyl | anyway, .dev is the branch to go :) |
| 14:16.23 | Ken|JLime | :) will do |
| 14:24.08 | mickeyl | hrw|work: with Qt being over 4MB, all future collie releases should be ext2fs releases only for altboot. |
| 14:24.48 | hrw|work | mickeyl: yep.. was thinking about such thing |
| 14:24.57 | HopsNBarley | hey gang - how do i resolve the "unable to resolve file conflict" when updating from the master makefile? |
| 14:27.02 | HopsNBarley | it's in the kernel bb file: 'packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16-rc2.bb' -> 'packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16-rc4-git9.bb' vs. 'packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16.bb' |
| 14:27.42 | zecke | HopsNBarley: monotone revert your ixp...bb to remove your local changes |
| 14:28.17 | mickeyl | hmm d'oh |
| 14:28.24 | mickeyl | anyone ever seen it failing like |
| 14:28.26 | mickeyl | | | genext2fs: couldn't allocate a block (no free space) |
| 14:28.30 | koen|train | monotone diff > ++patch ; montone revert ixp...bb ; patch < ++patch |
| 14:28.47 | HopsNBarley | zecke, ah yeah, i may have made some changes there. Thanks for the reminder (you too koen!) |
| 14:28.56 | koen|train | quilt/shelf functionality should be a monotone google SoC project |
| 14:29.16 | XorA | mickeyl: used to see that all the time when it ran out of inodes, but not disk space |
| 14:29.35 | HopsNBarley | i'd love to see a '-n' (pretend, but don't do) in the monotone prop |
| 14:30.31 | koen|train | mickeyl: you are lying! qt/e is only 60kB according to shawn gordon and trolltech! |
| 14:30.32 | HopsNBarley | koen|train, hmmm: monotone diff == "no changes". but there ARE changes. is there an easy explanation? |
| 14:30.48 | koen|train | did you commit the changes? |
| 14:31.03 | koen|train | "no changes" means "no diff between the .db abd working copy" |
| 14:31.03 | HopsNBarley | nope. just hangin there in the FS. |
| 14:31.10 | HopsNBarley | ah. remember now. thanks. |
| 14:32.31 | mickeyl | 32768016 2006-04-21 16:26 opie-image-c7x0-20060421140750.rootfs.img |
| 14:32.32 | mickeyl | darn |
| 14:32.35 | mickeyl | that's too large |
| 14:36.40 | hrw|work | fit my c7x0 :) |
| 14:36.53 | mickeyl | hah |
| 14:37.05 | Ken|JLime | Should I submit patches to the bugzilla? |
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| 14:37.24 | mickeyl | Ken|JLime: : yep |
| 14:37.25 | koen|train | Ken|JLime: yes |
| 14:37.58 | koen|train | "standard .tgz ipkgs" |
| 14:37.58 | koen|train | "standard .tgz ipkgsdjeez |
| 14:38.28 | Ken|JLime | Supply as file or text? |
| 14:38.34 | koen|train | file |
| 14:39.09 | koen|train | why do zaurus users think that everything in the sharprom is "standard"? |
| 14:39.31 | koen|train | like nothing has changed in 5 years |
| 14:39.53 | NA|Zzz | because they're endusers... |
| 14:58.21 | hrw|work | collie need to die... |
| 14:58.30 | hrw|work | wpa-supplicant 0.4.8 use openssl |
| 14:59.52 | Ken|JLime | Im having some issues with setting correct machine parameters, Its not due to openembedded, just dont got an idea on how to fix it best |
| 15:00.56 | Ken|JLime | The arch needs to be sh3, to be able to create a working toolchain, but needs to be sh for glibc, openssl, and lots of other things |
| 15:02.18 | Ken|JLime | Any ideas? |
| 15:05.27 | Ken|JLime | mickeyl: could you please discard my patch for now, working on a different solution |
| 15:10.44 | RP | hrw|work: I assume removing the suspend on hinge close behaviour is the preferred option until the GUIs can cope with configuring it? |
| 15:11.29 | hrw|work | yes |
| 15:12.07 | RP | hrw|work: It just needs the apm call patching out the script then. I'll sort that out. |
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| 15:18.29 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:21.34 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:23.08 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: I want people to have a go at it, just no the normal users ;) |
| 16:08.08 | CoreDump|home | RP: "* Add "proper" reboot and shutdown handling for poodle, c7x0, cxx00 and tosa" yay! |
| 16:08.22 | koen|train | nick koen|away |
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| 16:09.09 | koen|train | there |
| 16:09.17 | RP | CoreDump|home: Its needs testing. I'm lead to believe it might be close to solving the RTC getting lost over reboot |
| 16:09.18 | koen|train | now my keyboard doesn't have a lag of 6000ms |
| 16:10.06 | CoreDump|home | RP: I'll check it out. Keeping RTC over reboot would be very nice |
| 16:18.51 | koen|train | zecke: "According to [my boss], it [OE] can change without any expectation, and [some big corp] does not want to depend of something impredictable." |
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| 16:19.20 | koen|train | zecke: that was a quote from someone one that might be right for some questions in the survey |
| 16:19.49 | koen|train | 'that' -> quote |
| 16:21.00 | RP | koen|train: If big corps pay for a team to support OE, this might not happen... |
| 16:21.24 | koen|train | RP: OE isn't inherently unpredictable |
| 16:21.34 | koen|train | RP: you have proven that with the poky 'branch' |
| 16:21.48 | koen|train | (don't you just love using double negatives?) |
| 16:21.56 | RP | koen|train: Agreed, I can just see how people would percieve it like that |
| 16:22.03 | zecke | koen|train: well it is unpredictable |
| 16:22.15 | zecke | koen|train: it is a way of transporting the message, that it is easily predictable |
| 16:22.30 | zecke | koen|train: I'm not good of physics but isn't the following true: |
| 16:23.03 | ade|desk | its not hard to define preferred bits though is it .. and its all there in the db |
| 16:23.05 | zecke | koen|train: "One can predict the future, if you the position of each electron in the universe at the current time and their path" |
| 16:23.38 | koen|train | largely, yes |
| 16:23.54 | koen|train | but you can't know path and position at the same time |
| 16:23.59 | koen|train | (Heisenberg) |
| 16:24.06 | RP | I was just about to mention that :) |
| 16:24.38 | zecke | well you could pay a team and assult heisenberg and all his traces ;) |
| 16:24.53 | zecke | cya, I need to pick up woglinde from the train station |
| 16:25.01 | CoreDump|home | later zecke |
| 16:25.05 | koen|train | good luck |
| 16:25.21 | ade|desk | erm i wouldn't use the term 'electron' though |
| 16:25.38 | RP | "particle" :) |
| 16:26.38 | ade|desk | again not the best term either. information entity would be better |
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| 16:27.06 | zecke | koen|train: RP : I 'plan' to introduce 'stable' releases |
| 16:27.15 | koen|train | zecke: for OE? |
| 16:27.18 | koen|train | zecke: or for bitbake? |
| 16:27.21 | zecke | e.g. release OE XScale Version 2006.13 |
| 16:27.30 | zecke | all packages known to compile and 'work' for XScale |
| 16:27.34 | koen|train | stable releases for OE have been on my todolist for a while |
| 16:27.36 | zecke | and only fix security issues with packages |
| 16:27.53 | RP | We should probably combine bitbake+oe for release |
| 16:29.50 | koen|train | that's the idea for the angstrom release branches: a bitbake snapshot + only one version for each 'package' in the repo |
| 16:30.13 | koen|train | creating those branches is the hard part, maintaining them would be fairly easy |
| 16:30.51 | koen|train | look at .oz354x: quite stable |
| 16:30.52 | RP | Poky is just really a cleaned verison of OE which has been stripped down a bit... |
| 16:31.55 | koen|train | RP: if monotone 0.27 were superfast and supported cherrypicking, would you consider having a .poky branch in the main OE.db? |
| 16:33.06 | RP | koen|train: I don't have any control over that |
| 16:33.26 | koen|train | RP: suppose you had, would you consider it? |
| 16:34.12 | RP | koen|train: The issue is monotone. Its a lot easier to get people downloading with svn than monotone |
| 16:34.59 | RP | If, as and when your average desktop that has svn has monotone alongside with a version that will just work, I'd say we could do that |
| 16:35.16 | koen|train | that's what I thought |
| 16:35.49 | koen|train | the major problem is people prejudice againts monotone |
| 16:36.23 | RP | koen|train: A monotone -> svn gateway might help |
| 16:36.38 | koen|train | 'svn co http://foo.com.wobbler/trunk' vs 'wget http://foo.com.wobbler/OE.db ; monotone --db=OE.db co foo.com.wobbler' |
| 16:36.40 | RP | koen|train: You'll note git now has a cvs gateway mode? |
| 16:36.57 | koen|train | RP: you mean that perl script? |
| 16:37.22 | RP | koen|train: Its just a perl script? |
| 16:37.28 | RP | I didn't look at it in detail |
| 16:37.41 | koen|train | RP: you know that monotone has had a 2 way cvs gateway for ages? |
| 16:37.58 | RP | koen|train: no :) |
| 16:38.07 | koen|train | we could have had that running months ago if it weren't for france + hh.org denying me access to the oe account |
| 16:38.32 | RP | koen|train: "two way"? :-/ |
| 16:38.47 | RP | I guess we'd just use it one way? |
| 16:38.56 | koen|train | we would |
| 16:39.18 | koen|train | but one could do 'cvs commit foo' and see it appear in the monotone db automagically |
| 16:39.39 | RP | koen|train: If there was an svn gateway, poky in the oe.db might be possible |
| 16:40.30 | koen|train | and FWIW, I have a running OE cvs gateway for some time now |
| 16:40.39 | koen|train | using some ugly scripts |
| 16:40.45 | ggilbert | oh? |
| 16:40.52 | ggilbert | that in the wiki? |
| 16:41.05 | koen|train | ggilbert: no, not a real public one |
| 16:41.12 | ggilbert | ah |
| 16:41.37 | koen|train | real enought to realise that cvs sucks too hard be be useable |
| 16:41.41 | koen|train | -t |
| 16:42.03 | koen|train | once I get svn working on that machine I'll try to do a svn gateway and publicize the url |
| 16:42.27 | RP | koen|train: svn would give me some options with poky |
| 16:42.55 | koen|train | yeah, you could svk smerge OE -> poky |
| 16:43.21 | koen|train | zecke has the required goat sacrifice count to make that work |
| 16:45.11 | koen|train | people just don't get p2p scms |
| 16:45.37 | koen|train | maybe we should put some mp3s in the repo |
| 16:45.41 | koen|train | people seem to get mp3s |
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| 17:19.21 | zecke | koen|away: ping |
| 17:19.34 | zecke | mickeyl: I want to become the SIMpad maintainer of Angstrom |
| 17:25.56 | koen | zecke: pong |
| 17:32.50 | koen | zecke: if you want to be the simpad maintainer, your first job is to put the necessary bootldr + flasher files online :) |
| 17:33.11 | koen | you know, the files I was asking for a few months ago for familiar install kits |
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| 18:00.01 | CoreDump|home | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.9184.png looks like building GPE and opie in the same tmp doesn't become mplayer..... |
| 18:00.38 | XorA|gone | CoreDump|home: it will break any SDL using app |
| 18:00.55 | CoreDump|home | XorA|gone: nope, just mplayer |
| 18:01.48 | koen | zecke: http://free-electrons.com/pub/video/elc2006-denis-kropp-directfb-uhapi.ogg |
| 18:01.51 | CoreDump|home | sdl-qpe and sdl-x11 are compatible, it doesn't matter which one your app uses or against which it was compiled |
| 18:02.21 | CoreDump|home | good question |
| 18:02.34 | koen | from the seventh layer of hell |
| 18:02.49 | koen | (also known as alabama ;) ) |
| 18:02.55 | CoreDump|home | probably |
| 18:03.28 | CoreDump|home | that doesn't help me with that problem tho =) rebuilding sdl-x11 and mplayer did not help |
| 18:03.32 | koen | TheMasterMind1: http://linuxdevices.com/files/article064/slide12.jpg |
| 18:07.43 | koen | according to CosmicPenguin http://free-electrons.com/torrent/elc2006-matt-locke-celf-open-test-lab.ogg.torrent should feature OE |
| 18:10.18 | koen | CoreDump|home: are hating the pxa250 already? |
| 18:10.46 | koen | +you somewhere |
| 18:10.52 | CoreDump|home | don't have it yet, still on its way |
| 18:13.01 | koen | so it is also slow by snail mail? ;) |
| 18:15.59 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 18:16.10 | CoreDump|home | can't be worse than a collie |
| 18:29.48 | koen | CoreDump|home: it probably is slower as a colloy |
| 18:29.52 | koen | collie* |
| 18:30.06 | koen | cache is broken and it only has 32mb or ram |
| 18:30.13 | CoreDump|home | i will see :\ |
| 18:30.19 | koen | and 32mb is tight for gpe |
| 18:30.34 | koen | opie will probably run quite nice |
| 18:35.02 | CoreDump|home | ah, I forgot. Only 32Mb RAM ouch |
| 18:35.52 | koen | which incidentally is the trick our trolltech shill used in his most recent FUD against GPE |
| 18:36.19 | koen | gpe doesn't run nicely on a device with 32mb, period |
| 18:39.06 | ljp | ya, its too fat |
| 18:39.43 | ljp | and it wasnt trolltech that did that, it was me |
| 18:41.02 | CoreDump|home | well, rm *SDL* from staging and rebuilding SDL + mplayer did not fix that annyoing bug. At least it's not in SDL |
| 18:41.26 | koen | CoreDump|home: remove all qt/e crap from staging and shlibs |
| 18:41.35 | CoreDump|home | mehh |
| 18:41.47 | CoreDump|home | i was planning on rebuilding the opie stuff |
| 18:42.03 | CoreDump|home | the problem is mplayer specific in any case |
| 18:42.29 | koen | there's good reason I build all X stuff *before* qt/e stuff |
| 18:42.46 | CoreDump|home | usually I do the same |
| 18:43.47 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:43.49 | pb_ | g'day ljp |
| 18:44.44 | ljp | hi |
| 18:50.16 | ljp | i have a coffee stain on my gpe shirt |
| 18:53.04 | pb_ | doh, that's no good |
| 18:53.21 | pb_ | still, I don't have an opie shirt at all, which I guess is even worse |
| 18:54.48 | ljp | you can buy one |
| 18:54.54 | ljp | hmm. whats that site |
| 18:55.00 | ljp | casepress |
| 18:55.04 | ljp | cafepress |
| 18:55.08 | ljp | :) |
| 18:55.18 | ljp | my opie clock is slow |
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| 18:59.39 | pb_ | oh yes, very good |
| 18:59.41 | pb_ | http://www.cafepress.com/opie.3651405 |
| 19:03.24 | pb_ | not to be confused with http://www.cafepress.com/poppetgifts.44873245 of course |
| 19:16.13 | CosmicPenguin | koen: indeed it should |
| 19:16.40 | CosmicPenguin | koen: what other presentations are on that site? |
| 19:17.21 | CosmicPenguin | In torrent form, I mean |
| 19:18.26 | koen | lots of them, but yours isn't :( |
| 19:18.32 | koen | http://free-electrons.com/community/videos/conferences/ |
| 19:18.51 | CosmicPenguin | Thats ok, I have a horrible speaking voice |
| 19:19.51 | koen | one wouldn't notice with all the cell phones going off and intefering with the microphone |
| 19:20.05 | CosmicPenguin | If you listen to the power managment panel, you can hear one of the auidence members get up and start Geode bashing |
| 19:20.19 | koen | heh |
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| 19:20.51 | koen | x86-suckage by proxy? |
| 19:21.05 | CosmicPenguin | not really |
| 19:21.28 | CosmicPenguin | more of "I used geode like 8 years ago, and it sucked then, so I assume it still sucks" |
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| 19:24.10 | CosmicPenguin | koen: who is responsible for those recordings? |
| 19:24.26 | pb_ | hi reenoo|afk |
| 19:24.38 | reenoo | evening |
| 19:24.41 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
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| 20:49.10 | pb_ | reenoo: ah, very good, thanks |
| 20:50.14 | reenoo | pb_: np. thank you for the patch :) |
| 20:51.17 | reenoo | pb_: I'm not sure about the suspend scripts though. I have no idea who added them or why :/ |
| 20:53.33 | pb_ | koen thinks that the ifupdown one was added to work around an old bug in the h5500 wifi driver. |
| 20:53.47 | pb_ | unfortunately that was back in bitkeeper days, and bkbits was down last time I tried to look up the history |
| 20:54.11 | reenoo | it was back up yesterday I think |
| 20:54.23 | pb_ | I'm not sure what the deal is with the usbnet one; I think it might have been inherited from Familiar 0.7.2. I never use usbnet myself so I'm not really in a position to judge that one. |
| 20:55.09 | reenoo | yah, unfortunately I don't use usbnet either since none of my other machines is set up to handle usbnet properly |
| 20:55.21 | pb_ | ah yeah, bkbits is indeed working now |
| 20:56.03 | pb_ | oh, how embarrassing, it seems it was added by me |
| 20:56.19 | reenoo | heh |
| 20:56.52 | pb_ | well, at least nobody else should be offended by its removal then |
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| 20:59.09 | reenoo | hmm. you mention Erik in one commit message. maybe he remembers why the scripts were required? |
| 21:00.56 | pb_ | yah, perhaps |
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| 21:11.04 | pb_ | ah |
| 21:11.07 | pb_ | "The h5400 script is added to save power in standby mode because the |
| 21:11.07 | pb_ | radio will be explicitly turned off when the module is unloaded." |
| 21:11.45 | reenoo | ah, hmm |
| 21:11.56 | pb_ | I never entirely believed that claim. |
| 21:12.12 | pb_ | if unloading the module really does make a difference, that's definitely a bug in the kernel |
| 21:12.29 | pb_ | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h5400-port/11/1133.html |
| 21:12.40 | reenoo | yeah. it should be powered down in the suspend hook I would think |
| 21:12.52 | pb_ | yeah |
| 21:13.03 | pb_ | oh, actually, reading the thread a bit further, it looks like I didn't apply that part of the patch |
| 21:13.38 | pb_ | it sounds like Erik's change just consolidated some scripts in more sensible locations |
| 21:16.03 | reenoo | well, I've added Erik to the CC list on that bug. let's see what he says. |
| 21:16.08 | pb_ | cool |
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| 21:39.00 | mreimer | reenoo: I have a couple of h2200 patches which I'm trying to get committed |
| 21:41.36 | reenoo | mreimer: ok, great |
| 21:41.57 | mreimer | reenoo: thanks for committing pb's apmd patch |
| 21:47.16 | reenoo | mreimer: as for udev, I had planned to pull in at least http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=37324cc4d1e17f84d5f0cd110fdb0d0029a444a6 and http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=7c8cbf8df32a4687f7bad9f62abe216f366729a8 |
| 21:48.07 | mreimer | reenoo: I'll check them out. Should I go ahead and remove DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1"? |
| 21:48.18 | reenoo | mreimer: sure, please do |
| 21:48.29 | mreimer | ok |
| 21:49.39 | mreimer | reenoo: the second change you posted above undoes what the first one does (rtc symlink), so be careful when applying, unless that's intentional |
| 21:50.00 | reenoo | mreimer: no, it actually moves that to another file |
| 21:50.12 | mreimer | ah ok |
| 21:50.18 | reenoo | mreimer: I missed that at first glance as well... |
| 21:53.11 | mreimer | reenoo: ok, committed |
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| 21:54.00 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1e281f15... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.15-hh1.bb: Add handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.15-hh1.bb. |
| 21:54.04 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4f902dc8... 10/packages/udev/udev_084.bb: udev_084.bb: remove DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 21:56.05 | reenoo | mreimer: excellent. thanks |
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| 22:00.58 | reenoo | mreimer: fyi, I've merged the two heads. please pull+update |
| 22:01.04 | mreimer | ok |
| 22:05.10 | mreimer | any reason why not to put "auto usb0" in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 22:06.44 | reenoo | to bring it up on boot? why? |
| 22:07.40 | mreimer | doesn't that make it come up automatically whenever usb0 is created? Or is that something udev should handle now? |
| 22:07.59 | mreimer | it does make usb0 work at boot |
| 22:08.08 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.08 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.27 | reenoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.06 | mreimer | so probably udev needs to handle this |
| 22:09.25 | pb_ | right, udev would be the thing |
| 22:10.01 | pb_ | "auto" is hardly ever appropriate in a modern system |
| 22:10.16 | reenoo | mreimer: I believe Richard's patch (the second rev I linked to) should make that work |
| 22:10.45 | reenoo | +SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add" RUN+="/etc/udev/scripts/network.sh" |
| 22:10.45 | reenoo | +SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="remove" RUN+="/etc/udev/scripts/network.sh" |
| 22:10.50 | mreimer | reenoo: ah, excellent |
| 22:10.59 | mreimer | thanks for the schooling |
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| 22:13.05 | reenoo | I'm off to bed for now. 'night all |
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| 22:13.16 | mreimer | nite reenoo. thanks for your work |
| 22:13.54 | reenoo | mreimer: feel free to pull in both of those revisions. otherwise I'll look into that tomorrow |
| 22:14.02 | mreimer | reenoo: ok |
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| 22:23.30 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9a1686a3... 10/packages/udev/ (udev-084/udev.rules udev_084.bb): udev 0.84: bring in rev 37324cc4d1e17f84d5f0cd110fdb0d0029a444a6 from .dev. |
| 22:23.34 | CIA-9 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ref56317a... 10/packages/udev/ (udev-084/local.rules udev-084/udev.rules udev_084.bb): udev 0.84: bring in rev 7c8cbf8df32a4687f7bad9f62abe216f366729a8 from .dev. |
| 22:23.47 | mreimer | reenoo|zZzZ: as you see, I committed and pushed those two udev changesets |
| 22:24.37 | zecke | mithro: ping (COW question) |
| 22:34.07 | zecke | mickeyl: we need to edit .mt-attr :} |
| 22:35.46 | zecke | rwhitby: hey, nslu2 could update to bitbake 1.4.0 |
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| 22:40.59 | rwhitby | zecke: thx |
| 22:41.27 | rwhitby | is that head in svn? |
| 22:41.39 | zecke | no |
| 22:41.51 | zecke | it is in branches/bitbake-1.4 (a stable branch) |
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| 23:25.43 | ggilbert | " Our flying mount should move 35% faster than everyone else's mounts, but we can only use it for 15 seconds out of every three minutes." |
| 23:26.26 | zecke | hehe |
| 23:26.36 | ggilbert | wrong channel |
| 23:26.37 | ggilbert | :p |
| 23:26.54 | ggilbert | Wrong server for that matter |
