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00:18.52CosmicPenguinThat super-highspeed cache stuff is so damn cool
00:21.59NecronomIndeed.
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01:25.01CSManXorA|gone: how do i select mplayer to be built only with x11 and not with qt?
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02:50.41CSManwhat should I do to get some apps built with x11 instead of qt ?
03:04.44TheMasterMind1CSMan:  what apps
03:06.16CSManTheMasterMind1: mplayer-atty
03:06.20CSManfor example
03:07.47TheMasterMind1hrm
03:07.56TheMasterMind1well it depends on sdl so i think if you compile sdl for x11 itl
03:07.58TheMasterMind1l wrok
03:08.16TheMasterMind1libsdl-x11 instead of libsdl-qte
03:08.55CSManhow can i specify that when building mplayer-atty ?
03:09.16TheMasterMind1you don't
03:09.28CSManbut it's building with qte as default
03:09.34TheMasterMind1you have to build libsdl beforehand. set PREFERRED_PROVIDERS for virtual/sdl to libsdl-x11
03:09.55CSManright
03:10.06CSManPREFERRED_PROVIDERS in local.conf, right ?
03:12.36CSManok, changed. i'll build libsdl
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03:13.09TheMasterMind1virtual/libsdl that should be
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03:47.59JustinPjnc: I don't suppos eyou have a copy of JavaScriptCore_cvs.sourceforge.net__20060212.tar.gz
03:50.57jncJustinP: err.  nope
03:51.17JustinPjnc: didn't I check in the bbfile for that for you?
03:51.23jncyeah. :)
03:52.06JustinP:-P
03:52.25JustinPsf.net anoncvs isn't working for me for that package...
03:52.38jncah, shame
03:58.51CIA-903mwester 07org.oe.dev * rdc7c705f... 10/packages/nslu2-binary-only/ (3 files in 2 dirs): unslung-rootfs: passwd patch, updated NOTES
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04:01.07JustinPanyone else have that in their sources dir?
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04:08.26TheMasterMind1javascriptcore? what uses that
04:21.07jncTheMasterMind1: minimo, i think
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06:16.30TheMasterMind1evening
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07:14.42goxboxliveHI there. I am trying to build a bootstrap-image and it wouldnt pass trhue. This is the only message i get ( ERROR: Nothing provides dependency boostrap-image) and i also had som ecomplains about ipkg-linkudev. Can someone helpme out here?
07:18.09Genesisoï !
07:21.06zeckegoxboxlive: looks like a missing apce ipkg-link|udev
07:21.30zeckegoxboxlive: did you edit something or, is this default OE?
07:23.22goxboxliveIt's not a default one, i am trying to build for the HTC-universal. It worked two days ago, but i had to move the workdirectory because of missing space. I have just adopted the conf file for blueangel.
07:24.10zeckegoxboxlive: smells like a wrong (BOOTSTRAP_)EXTRA_DEPENDS
07:24.18zecke(missing space ' ')
07:24.42goxboxliveshould it be spaces in every " bla bla bla " ?
07:25.01Genesisgoxboxlive, : i've some pb with file with mod 000 for move them ( GCC visibilitypatch for example ) ,  how did you do ?
07:25.01zeckegoxboxlive: not every, but more spaces the better
07:25.24zecke(only with OVERRIDES avoid spaces)
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07:26.10goxboxliveGenesis: I dont follow, what do you mean?
07:26.18Genesislet it be ...
07:26.38TheMasterMind1hrmf, what installs stropts.h anyone have any ideas?
07:26.42zeckegoxboxlive: += adds a space
07:27.33goxboxliveok thx
07:32.47goxboxliveHere is my htcuniversal.conf, can you see something wrong in it:
07:32.51goxboxlive#@TYPE: Machine
07:32.51goxboxlive#@NAME: htcuniversal
07:32.51goxboxlive#@DESCRIPTION: Machine configuration for the HTC Universal device
07:32.51goxboxliveKERNEL ?= "kernel26"
07:32.51goxboxliveOVERRIDES =. "${KERNEL}:"
07:32.52goxboxliveTARGET_ARCH = "arm"
07:32.54goxboxliveIPKG_ARCHS += "all arm armv4 armv4t armv5e armv5te ipaqpxa htcuniversal"
07:32.56goxboxlivePREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive"
07:32.58goxboxlivePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel_kernel26 = "xanadux-un-2.6"
07:32.58zeckegoxboxlive: pastebin
07:33.00goxboxlivePREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "xanadux-un-2.6"
07:33.02goxboxlivePREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel = "xanadux-un-2.6"
07:33.04goxboxliveMODUTILS = "26"
07:33.06goxboxliveBOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel ipaq-boot-params ${@linux_module_packages('${UN_MODULES}', d)}"
07:33.08goxboxliveBOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS_append_kernel26 += "udev module-init-tools"
07:33.12goxboxliveUN_MODULES_kernel26 += "htcuniversal_bt htcuniversal_leds snd-pxa-i2sound-htcuniversal htcuniversal_power htcuniversal_phone htcuniversal_wlan"
07:33.15goxboxliveSERIAL_CONSOLE = "115200 tts/2 vt100"
07:33.17goxboxliveUSE_VT = "0"
07:33.19goxboxliveinclude conf/machine/include/handheld-common.conf
07:33.21goxboxliveGUI_MACHINE_CLASS = "smallscreen"
07:33.23goxboxliveROOT_FLASH_SIZE = "32"
07:33.25goxboxlive#OPIE_EXTRA_INSTALL += "opie-embeddedkonsole opie-ftp opie-i18n-no libgaim0 libgaim-protocol-msn libgaim-protocol-oscar libgaim-protocol-irc"
07:33.28goxboxlive#module_autoload_htcuniversal_leds = "htcuniversal_leds"
07:33.30goxboxlive#module_autoload_htcuniversal_bt = "htcuniversal_bt"
07:33.32goxboxlive#module_autoload_htcuniversal_wlan = "htcuniversal_wlan"
07:33.34goxboxlive#module_autoload_snd-pxa-i2sound-htcuniversal = "snd-pxa-i2sound-htcuniversal"
07:33.36goxboxlive#module_autoload_snd-pcm-oss = "snd-pcm-oss"
07:33.38goxboxlive#module_autoload_snd-mixer-oss = "snd-mixer-oss"
07:33.42goxboxlive#module_autoload_bnep = "bnep"
07:33.44goxboxlive# optimize images, but build feeds without using tune-xscale so as to retain backwards compatibility
07:33.46goxboxliveinclude conf/machine/include/tune-xscale.conf
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07:34.10Genesislol
07:34.12zecke~pastebin
07:34.13ibotsomebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste
07:34.19zeckegoxboxlive: do not flood me
07:34.41zeckegoxboxlive: I'm glad to help, but I want to decide what information I consume ;)
07:34.43Genesisnot only you ...
07:34.44Genesis:)
07:35.04zeckelucky me, I'm not too selfish then
07:35.44TheMasterMind1use pastebin.
07:36.11goxboxliveok i am so sorry, i'll paste it in the pastebin.com. Here is the link: http://pastebin.com/668797
07:36.48zeckeBOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS_append_kernel26 += "udev module-init-tools"
07:36.55zecketry '" udev"
07:37.07zecketouch conf/local.conf to reparse
07:38.12zeckehmm it should add a space though :}
07:39.56goxboxliveok i'll try, hold on.
07:40.53zeckeRP: bitbake gaim-plugin-foo would rock as well
07:41.04zeckeRP: building packages to get a RDEPENDS ;)
07:41.40zeckecya later ;)
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07:43.58goxboxliveDo i have to run 'bitbake -c clean bottstrap-image' before i try to build every time bootstrap-image failes?
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07:51.06TheMasterMind1probably
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07:59.12TheMasterMind1wow
07:59.19TheMasterMind1lfs bootscripts do *not* like busybox
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08:15.13XorAmorning
08:18.32TheMasterMind1morning
08:18.42TheMasterMind1well one could argue this was the stupidest idea ever
08:19.50TheMasterMind1in case anyone was curious, lfs' bootscripts are completely incompatible with busybox
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08:32.13TheMasterMind1whoa. kernel.inc creates .conf files using the aliases in the modules
08:32.16TheMasterMind1that's impressive
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09:39.51goxboxliveI dont get it. I still have problem building the bootstrap-image. Now it says, maybe run 'ipkg update'. I dont have ipkg at my computer, i am using debian.
09:40.10zeckegoxboxlive: hmmm?
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09:49.28ade|deskmorning al
09:49.30ade|deskall
10:02.02goxboxliveThis is was happening: http://pastebin.com/668909
10:05.38goxboxliveand this is what 'cat /usr/src/universal//work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs.11490' says.  http://pastebin.com/668911
10:06.31zeckevim /usr/src/universal//deploy/ipk/Package
10:07.00zeckegrep for bootstrap
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10:12.09goxboxliveThis one 'vim /usr/src/universal//deploy/ipk/Package' gives me an empty file. And 'ls -la | grep bootstrap' gives me nothing.
10:16.50goxboxliveSorry it gave me alot of packages, but nothing about bootstrap
10:20.48rob_w|misgoxboxlive,  did you build task-bootstrap.bb  yet ?
10:21.26rob_w|misipkg complains in that way as it "installs" the builded packages directly into the rootfs
10:21.42rob_w|misand it misses task-bootstrap.bb
10:21.45zeckegoxboxlive: did you try to manually build it?
10:22.05zeckegoxboxlive: have you in your log some reference to building task-bootstrap?
10:22.17zeckegoxboxlive: e.g Not creating empty package for task-bootstrap
10:24.23zecke"The related bug has been reported to the GNU make maintainers in 1988 but
10:24.23zeckeas the bug has not yet been fixed, it seems that GNU make is unmaintained :-(
10:24.24zeckeA working highly portable make program is at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/smake"
10:24.27zeckeI love Joerg
10:29.21goxboxlivewhen i run this, everything works just fine: bitbake -b ../org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/meta/task-bootstrap.bb
10:29.45zeckegoxboxlive: clean it, make it again
10:29.59zeckegoxboxlive: see if you have a task-bootstrap.ipk
10:31.10goxboxliveBut when i run this one, it failes: bitbake -b ../org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/linux/xanadux-un-2.6_2.6.12.bb se http://pastebin.com/668936
10:31.30zeckegoxboxlive: relation to the ipkg problem?
10:33.16goxboxliveThe task-bootstrap says it builds, but it is not in //deploy/ipk directory.
10:34.11zeckeit seems like your xanadu/HTC configuration is simply wrong...
10:34.13zeckeNOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'linux_module_packages' is not defined while evaluating:
10:34.18zeckeas it sais in line 6
10:35.01goxboxliveyes i know i can see that, but have no clue how to fix it. Do you :-/
10:35.28zeckegoxboxlive: pastebin your local.conf, xanadux-un...bb and the machine configuration
10:36.22goxboxliveOK I'll do that.
10:37.00zeckegoxboxlive: and remove that trailing slash too many from your path...
10:37.08zeckegoxboxlive: //deploy looks like a depot (svk,p4)
10:37.55goxboxlivelthis is local.conf http://pastebin.com/668940
10:38.47zeckeQuestion: # Don't use symlinks in in the path to avoid problems
10:38.47zeckeTMPDIR = /usr/src/universal/
10:38.53zeckeis that a symlink?
10:39.49goxboxliveno i dont have any symlinks. htcuniversal.conf http://pastebin.com/668941
10:41.20goxboxliveThis is myeThis is my xanadu...... http://pastebin.com/668943
10:42.09zecke*dinner*
10:42.13zeckewait a bit plase
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10:43.10goxboxliveyes of course. Bon apetite
10:47.19rob_w|misgoxboxlive,  btw maybe i will get a universal soon
10:47.22TheMasterMind1morning
10:48.32goxboxliveRob_w : I think you should. It's a cool gadget ( but way to expensive) .
10:49.16rob_w|misgoxboxlive,  yeah but i did some work for a friend  and he now looks into getting me that cheap
10:50.15goxboxliveANd it will be so great when the linux port is finished.
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10:55.11rob_w|misyeah ,that is the goal
10:55.16rob_w|misbrb
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11:08.47koen|workhi all
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11:15.59zeckekoen|work: hey
11:15.59zeckere
11:16.05RPmorning all
11:16.13RPzecke: Good news on the release :)
11:16.35koen|workhey zecke & RP
11:17.06zeckeRP: I'm glad we were able to end the instability that quickly
11:17.23zeckegoxboxlive: just a rule of thumb
11:17.32RPzecke: Yes, its nice to have the resolved
11:17.33zeckegoxboxlive: replace the 'include' with require
11:17.49goxboxlivein htcuniversal.conf?
11:17.59zeckeyes
11:18.04RPzecke: Is there an easy way to disable COW in bitbake btw? I'm wondering what happens to speed if we do...
11:18.41zeckeRP: and to do what instead?
11:18.45zeckeRP: deepcopy?
11:18.52RPzecke: yes
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11:19.01Bernardohi
11:19.07RPhi Bernardo
11:19.08zeckeRP: will be slower
11:19.17zeckeRP: you can test that easily
11:19.21RPzecke: ok, I just wondered
11:19.47RPzecke: I also wondered if you'd tried storing content and the other var flags in separate dicts?
11:20.11zeckeRP: no that :)
11:20.19RPThat wasn't clear - content in one dict, all the other flags in another
11:20.30RPzecke: I was thinking it might make lookups faster
11:20.47zeckeRP: I can prepare patch for you (to dict_smart.py)
11:20.57zeckeRP: you will change the createCopy method to do a deepcopy
11:21.10zeckeRP: and maybe remove some code, or just inherit dict
11:21.43RPzecke: I haven't time to experiment now but I think I know what I need to do to test it - I'll give it a go at some point...
11:22.30RPzecke: The main question is whether COW for speed or memory usage?
11:22.42RPI don't think we'd have the memory usage problem now...
11:22.58zeckeRP: both
11:23.14zeckeRP: accessing can get a bit slower
11:23.34zeckeRP: but you save the deepcopy
11:23.41RPbut creation is faster, right
11:23.52zeckeRP: see the 'override helpers'
11:23.59zeckeRP: with cow you will save another minute there
11:25.35goxboxlivezecke: that didn't help either. You meant the include conf/machine/include/handheld-common.conf to require conf/machine/include/handheld-common.conf and the same for the X-scale?
11:26.07zeckeyes
11:27.15goxboxliveWell it didnt help. This is so strange, for a couple of days a go it worked, but now it refuse.
11:27.33zeckegoxboxlive: okay, we know that these file exists
11:27.42zeckegoxboxlive: the kernel file itself looks correct as well
11:28.19zeckegoxboxlive: just make sure, using 'S' in that way is not too smart
11:29.36goxboxliveWhat do u mean about a caption s ?
11:30.14zeckegoxboxlive: you want to use your local directory as SOURCE directory
11:30.23zeckegoxboxlive: this looks somehow abusive ;)
11:31.07koen|worklater all
11:31.30goxboxliveYes , because i do some changes to it, and it har worked before. But one thing. Shall i make the defconfig and modules my self or will bitbake do that for me?
11:33.11goxboxlive( in the cvs linux kernel)
11:33.34zeckegoxboxlive: it will handle .config
11:33.41zeckegoxboxlive: and it will package all modules you built
11:35.41zeckegoxboxlive: Update bitbake, update OE
11:35.58zeckegoxboxlive: then run bitbake -DDD .../task-bootstrap.bb -cclean
11:36.00zeckegoxboxlive: then run bitbake -DDD .../task-bootstrap.bb
11:36.06zeckegoxboxlive: pastebin the logs
11:40.24goxboxliveZecke: I'll try now with the S pointing to cvs kernel. OE is updated to day, bitbake is not. I'll do that when the cvs is downloaded. I realy  appreciate your help here.
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11:43.59zeckegoxboxlive: you are welcome
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12:05.38TheMasterMind1mickeyl:  morning
12:05.45mickeylHI TheMasterMind1
12:06.07mickeylzecke: congrats for the release. HEAD is open for dirty hacking again?
12:11.43zeckemickeyl: I'm not sure
12:11.58zeckemickeyl: maybe we will have branches/dirty-hacking/zecke
12:12.01zeckemickeyl: maybe we will have branches/dirty-hacking/mickeyl
12:12.06zeckemickeyl: and then merge it to trunk
12:13.07zeckexxf86dgaproto
12:13.14zeckewhat should hat be?
12:13.19zeckemeta-sdl is horrible broken
12:13.31TheMasterMind1only one x i think
12:17.00zeckeTheMasterMind1: no these packages actually exist
12:17.06zeckehttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/libxxf86dga-dev
12:17.08CIA-903freyther 07org.oe.dev * rea299360... 10/packages/ (frodo/frodo_4.2.bb uae/e-uae_0.8.27.bb): (log message trimmed)
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12:18.47zeckeTheMasterMind1: right, thanks
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12:21.56goxboxliveZecke: I'back, i tried the bitbake -DDD .../task-bootstrap.bb  (after -cclean) alot of things happend, but the only error i got whas this: ERROR: Nothing provides dependency ../org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/meta/task-bootstrap.bb
12:22.27goxboxliveShouldn't i also have a '-b' in there?
12:24.38zeckegoxboxlive: sure ;)
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12:27.11goxboxlivezecke: heres the output : http://pastebin.com/669070
12:28.32zeckegoxboxlive: clean it first ;)
12:28.53goxboxlivelike this: bitbake -DDD .../task-bootstrap.bb -cclean
12:29.17zeckeyes
12:29.17zecke-b as well
12:29.55mickeylzecke: well, it's not _that_ dirty or is it? isn't HEAD for current development? :)
12:30.20goxboxliveok like this then 'bitbake -b -DDD .../task-bootstrap.bb -cclean
12:30.22zeckemickeyl: well, what do you want to do?
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12:31.32zeckemickeyl: BitBake should reach a higher level
12:31.52zeckemickeyl: print out the "Request of HEAD change" paper
12:31.55zeckemickeyl: and fax it to me
12:32.01zecke(filled out)
12:32.24zeckemickeyl: I will handle your request according to our 'Request of HEAD change'-process
12:32.58goxboxlivezecke: this gave me no errors: bitbake -DDDb ../org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/meta/task-bootstrap.bb What do u want me to do now?
12:33.11zeckemickeyl: seriously: more radical changes should go to a branch
12:33.20zeckegoxboxlive: I want to see the output
12:33.32zeckegoxboxlive: clean it, build it, show me the logs (pastebin)
12:33.50XorAgoxboxlive: why are you not running what zecke told you to?
12:35.30mickeylzecke: hmm... isn't that backwards? I thought branches were for stable changes, HEAD for unstable ones? (potentially)
12:35.40mickeylI'm find with whatever, of course
12:35.44mickeyls/find/fine/
12:35.55zeckemickeyl: sure we have a stable branch
12:36.06zeckemickeyl: which is absolutely stable ;)
12:36.15zeckemickeyl: and we have HEAD (multiple ones)
12:36.23zeckehey we should use monotone for bitbake as well
12:37.19zeckemickeyl: Currently, I simply want to avoid bigger breakage
12:38.04zeckegoxboxlive: oh well, wait a second
12:38.06goxboxlivezecke here: http://pastebin.com/669081
12:39.16goxboxliveXorA: goxboxlive: why are you not running what zecke told you to?   Because we i should build it, and i mistace it missed and -b to build.
12:39.22zeckegoxboxlive: do you generate ipackages at all?
12:39.49zeckemickeyl: did I kill monotone on vanille?
12:40.24zeckeit is repsonding now
12:40.31goxboxlivezecke: I used to, but it looks like it doesnt now.
12:41.04zeckegoxboxlive: this explains why it can't install a task-bootstrap ;)
12:41.54goxboxlivezecke: I c, but do i generate them? Whay to edit?
12:42.03zeckegoxboxlive: conf/local.conf
12:45.31goxboxlivezecke: Ok, i had a look there, but there where nothing about ipkg at all. What should i write in the local.conf to generate ipkg?
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12:46.10zeckegoxboxlive: see local.conf.sample
12:46.13zeckegoxboxlive: grep for ipk
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13:00.10goxboxlivezecke: It's going forward. The DISTRO= was wrong in my local.conf. But now it ask's for this. : NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'linux_module_packages' is not defined while evaluating: How do i define it?
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13:04.58Ifaistoshello !
13:06.54Ifaistosi am trying to modify ntp.bb in order to install ntpdate in rc2.d infront of ntpd (which is S20)
13:07.04Ifaistosi am using something like this
13:07.22Ifaistospkg_postinst_ntpdate_owmnr() {
13:07.23Ifaistos<PROTECTED>
13:07.23Ifaistos}
13:07.39Ifaistosbut it does not seem to work
13:08.05TheMasterMind1thats not the way to do it
13:08.16TheMasterMind1look at the ntpd package and see how it does it
13:08.40TheMasterMind1you inherit update-rc.d and use INITSCRIPT_NAME
13:10.07Ifaistosits allready inherited in the bb.
13:10.25Ifaistosi used the Nylon as an example
13:11.11Ifaistoshttp://pastebin.com/669135
13:11.37Ifaistosit's defined like that inside the ntp.bb
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13:18.48Ifaistoshmmm strange.... If i copy the packet over to the target machine and install it, it does install the init script
13:19.06Ifaistosthe rootfs though in /tmp/rootfs does not
13:19.22Ifaistoscontaining it
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13:29.25goxboxlivezecke: There are also others who have the same problem as i have for building to their blueangel. So i guess it's something with the branch or something. Maybe it's not my configs at all.
13:40.14zeckegoxboxlive: where can one get the branch?
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13:53.46goxboxlivezecke what do u mean? do u mean org.openembedded.oz354fam083?
13:55.21zeckegoxboxlive: what do I need to build it/produce this issue?
13:56.34treke|homezecke: Was there anything on my list that you wanted kept?
13:57.31zecketreke|home: haven't looked too carefully
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13:59.43treke|homedoesnt look like it's anything interesting. Just the big groups of cvs builds
14:00.01zeckehrw|gone: hey
14:00.29zeckehrw|gone: did you move the packages already?
14:00.36zecketreke|home: did you move the packages already?
14:00.51treke|homezecke: took them offline. haven't deleted them yet
14:00.55zecketreke|home: otherwise I could do a -cfetch worl and see what is mirrored
14:00.58zecketreke|home: ah okay
14:03.50zecketreke|home: could you wait another 12 hours?
14:04.07treke|homesure
14:04.07zecketreke|home: I want to do a -c fetch world and look for missing stuff
14:04.19zeckehrw|gone: where do you keep the source for OpenZaurus.org?
14:04.31treke|homeI just went over the list again and so far it looks really uninteresting
14:04.43treke|homeall that's on it are the cvs snapshots
14:04.44RPtreke|home: I think hrw if away for a few days
14:04.59zeckeRP: ah okay
14:05.05zeckehoneymoon already?
14:05.29RPzecke: I don't think so, not yet...
14:06.02zeckewe should consider making a joined present for him
14:10.30XorAhe said he be back tomorrow if I recall right
14:11.55XorAzecke: thats a good plan
14:12.40mickeylhey folks
14:12.44mickeyli need a bit of arm asm help
14:12.51XorAhey mickeyl
14:12.54mickeylcould you provide a translation for http://oe.pastebin.com/669250 ?
14:14.30zeckemickeyl: to ARM?
14:14.43zeckemickeyl: no atomic increment in armv4, armv5 IIRC
14:15.02zeckemickeyl: specially no lock operation ;)
14:15.05mickeylhmm
14:15.20mickeylso i will just subtitute that with ++i for arm ?
14:15.25mickeyl(and the like)
14:15.36zeckemickeyl: all you can rely on SA1100 and PXA (ARMv4 >) is swp
14:15.45zeckemickeyl: take a look at Qt
14:17.37mickeylarm gcc defines __ARM__ ?
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14:18.30zeckei think so, or  __arm__
14:18.35mickeylright __arm__, thanks
14:18.40zeckefeierabend
14:18.45mickeylProst
14:25.45RPmickeyl: You could look at the atomic ops code in the kernel
14:26.30mickeylRP: yeah, will do that
14:26.37mickeyl~lart x86isms
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14:27.49RPmickeyl: Sadly, as zecke said, there is no locking on arm so the kernel versions use irq_save which isn't an option in userspace
14:29.21zeckemickeyl: well use swp ;)
14:29.27cedric_is somebody compile something against libsdl-x11?
14:29.46zeckemickeyl: static /* olatile */ char my_lock = 0;
14:29.58mickeylurhgs
14:30.00zeckemickeyl: and use 'swp' to simulate a test_and_lock..
14:30.01mickeylmore x86isms
14:30.03mickeyl#define jassertfalse            { asm("int $3"); }
14:30.10mickeyl*sigh*
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14:30.39zeckemickeyl: and use something like while(my_swp(&var, ~0)!=0);
14:30.43zeckemickeyl: now your increment
14:30.50zeckemy_lock = 0;
14:30.52zeckereturn
14:31.02mickeyl*nod*
14:31.37zeckeI thin Dijkstra invented it
14:31.43zeckethough I have not seen a proof for that yet
14:32.00zeckefinally, cya
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14:39.11goxboxlivejust those 3 files i posted at pastebin. Thats all
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15:07.55mithromickeyl: you alive?
15:08.04mithroor somebody with commit access to OE?
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15:10.52mickeylyep, what's up?
15:11.05mithrodoes OE have the compat libs in it?
15:11.20mithroi seem to remeber it does
15:11.25mickeylyes, they're downloaded from somewhere
15:12.11mickeylhttp://openzaurus.org/mirror/oz-compat_0.5.tar.gz
15:12.24mickeylthe .bb is in sharp-binary-only/
15:12.41mithrookay can you add a test into the file so that if you are compiling with SOFTFLOAT they will die horribly
15:13.01mithropreferably insulting the person
15:13.19mickeyli could, but you know that they're not entirely useless even with soft float
15:14.22mithroi know - but the user hassle is not worth it - they do use floating point operations and the fact they don't segfault at all is a mirical
15:15.50mickeylwell, since they're not actually getting compiled, wouldn't it be better to tell the distro maintainers not to include them in feeds instead of having the .bb bail out?
15:16.35mithromickeyl: no - the oz-compat is NOT SUPPORTED and should NOT be used when using soft-float
15:17.43mickeyluhm... yes, but i don't see how preventing them to build will have anything to do with them actually getting used.
15:18.14mickeyli can do that if it makes you happy, but I seriously question the effectiveness of such a step
15:18.18mickeyl*shrug*
15:18.34mithromickeyl: well it stops accidently inclusion in SOFT-FLOAT distros
15:19.20mickeylmithro: in fact, i don't think they're getting accidently included...
15:19.30mickeyli think hrw knows exactly about the problems
15:19.46mithroi know it won't stop people from using it - but it makes sense anyway for things which are known to not work on SOFTFLOAT not actually be able to compiled for SOFTFLOAT
15:20.11mickeylok, for the casual bb user
15:20.28mickeylbbl, wandering homme
15:20.31mickeylhome, as well
15:20.43mithromickeyl: okay thanks
15:20.54mithrojust sent a rant to the list about the libraries
15:21.36mithrothere was a reason I removed them from my site in the first place :P
15:23.34XorAreally the only app I ever used them for was opera, once that new swanking konq-e makes it into OZ I doubt people want to run opera anymore
15:24.21mithrowhats the new konq-e like?
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15:25.18XorAmithro: no idea personally, I run GPE these days
15:25.30mithrowhats the browser of choice on GPE?
15:25.40XorAmithro: for me, links/firefox
15:25.55XorAmithro: or for quick vews of sites gpe-mini-browser
15:25.57mithrofirefox run okay on the zaurus?
15:26.11XorAmithro: a touch slow, but usable on 400Mhz machines
15:27.20mithroi wonder what ephiphany would be like
15:27.52XorAfeel free to make a .bb for me to test :-D
15:28.58mithroC parser of bitbake is more probably more importnat
15:31.01Genesisbye
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15:47.17ggilberttime to do my first ever monotone checkout
15:49.31pb__how intrepid of you
15:50.57ggilbertRequired software page doesnt mention a version number for monotone, is the protocol pretty stable?
15:52.12pb__I think you need a fairly recent version.  The one in debian unstable seems to be OK.
15:52.17pb__0.24 or 0.25 or something
15:52.30ggilberthehe. hopefully 0.23 works
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15:56.14RPggilbert: I suspect you need 0.24
15:56.57ggilberthehehe. Guess it's backport time :p
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16:51.21koenhi all
16:51.32koen~stab gprs
16:51.38ibotACTION runs at gprs with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
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16:58.29mickeylhi koen
16:59.03koenhey mickeyl
16:59.29koenmy connection will be gone as soon as the refridgerator starts cooling again...
17:00.45evildevilfreeze!
17:02.02mickeylheh
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17:13.15pgasXorA: do you use links2 in the console or with -g?
17:13.23XorApgas: -g
17:14.19pgasafter pre14 it allows for copy pasting ...I'm a links2 lover :)
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17:33.05NecronomWoo. I finally got a gpe-image build to complete.
17:33.24koenNecronom: congrats
17:35.51JustinPkoen: e-image-core biulds with angstrom distro ^_^
17:36.05JustinPkoen: of course it doesn't even work for OZ in .dev right now, so.....
17:36.18koenJustinP: yay!
17:37.13JustinPI think Xfbdev is segfaulting for some reason.....don't know why yet
17:38.30JustinPI'm trying to build e-image now
17:40.24koendo we have any OE devs that can read/write CJK?
17:41.21ggilberthmmm. I could have swordn someone lived in korea
17:42.13koenIt seems asia (and china in specific) is booming with embedded startups
17:46.59ggilbertoh wait, that was an opie developer
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17:50.19mreimeris it safe to ignore errors like this when parsing: ERROR: Error Method already seen: get_glibc_fpu_setting in' glibc_2.2.5.bb' now in 'glibc_2.4.bb'
17:50.34koenmreimer: it is safe to ignore them
17:50.40mreimerthanks koen
17:51.54pb_hi mreimer
17:51.58mreimerhi pb_
17:52.16mreimerpb_: apmd working well for you now? I hope to try your patch when I get a chance
17:52.51pb_mreimer: seems to be working fairly well, though I haven't been using it very intensively
17:53.20pb_I hope we can get that change into 0.8.4-rc2, though, so that it gets a bit more exposure.
17:53.27mreimeragreed
17:53.54pb_the other two major items I have for -rc2 are the hh41 kernel and that ipkg patch for l10n.
17:54.13mreimerkoen: what's lacking?
17:54.58koenmreimer: they were demoted to "technology demos" instead of "supported"
17:55.08mreimerreally? why?
17:55.32koenno idea
17:55.50radugawhat's missing?
17:55.53radugahw support?
17:55.56mreimernothing that I know of
17:55.56radugasw support?
17:56.04mreimereverything works on h2200
17:56.08pb_just documentation and testing, as far as I know.
17:56.09radugasomeone taking the time to test and put everything together neatly?
17:56.09mreimeralmost everything on hx4700
17:56.13radugapb: hm
17:56.21radugapb: i guess that's sortof good :/
17:56.22pb_I've no idea what the situation is with h6300, but the other two platforms seem to be fairly well supported
17:56.30mreimerthe only h2200 problem I know of is flaky battery monitoring on some h2200 boards
17:56.46pb_last time I checked, though, there was no install manual for hx4700.
17:57.02mreimerthere's that wiki page
17:57.09mreimerwhich is all h2200 has too
17:57.22pb_yeah, that's probably not quite good enough for "supported"
17:57.41pb_particularly if it still says "DANGER, THESE INSTRUCTIONS ARE UNTESTED" or something at the top, which the hx4700 one used to
17:57.51mreimerheh, h2200 still has that too :-)
17:57.54mreimertime to remove it.
17:58.15mreimerwhat else needs to be added to those docs to consider them "supported"?
17:58.18koenmreimer: udev is too old, the kernel probably won't compile in the branch, etc
17:58.37mreimerwe're clear to upgrade udev
17:58.54mreimerwhat's the "kernel probably won't compile in the branch" problem?
17:59.08koeniirc I instructed it to build the _cvs kernel
17:59.19pb_mreimer: not sure, I'd need to review them.  The ideal thing would be to have hx4700 and h2200 support integrated into the existing manual, but the next best thing would be a clear step-by-step procedure on a webpage.
17:59.31koenif it compiles it will be 2.6.ancient, otherwise you end up with a half broken 2.6.16
18:00.02mreimerkoen: I have my h2200.conf patched locally to use 2.6.15-hh0, which I'd recommend for 0.8.4
18:00.25mreimerpb_: I'm willing to do the work to get h2200 instructions ready to integrate into the existing manual
18:00.31pb_mreimer: excellent
18:00.37mreimerjust tell me what needs to happen other than copy and paste
18:01.50mreimerI would guess hx4700 hw support will be complete in the next month or two. wifi is almost there, and power consumption will likely be fixed very shortly, as people with documentation/schematics are involved now
18:01.54pb_basically, start with http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/install/ and identify the parts that need changing for the h2200.
18:01.54radugahm.
18:02.12radugaanyone here use either csound or timidity, on arm?
18:02.14pb_depending on what the differences are, it might either make sense to merge the h2200 bits into those pages, or create parallel pages with the h2200 steps on
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18:03.39mreimerpb_: steps 4 and 5 will be completely different, since we don't use bootldr
18:03.41reenooevening
18:03.49mreimerhey reenoo
18:03.56reenoohey mreimer
18:04.14mreimerdidn't get very far building angstrom: /opt/oe/build-angstrom/tmp/work/quilt-native-0.42-r0/temp/run.do_patchcmd.938: line 493: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
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18:04.47pb_mreimer: okay.  in that case, it sounds like h2200 should have a separate workflow for the installation.
18:05.16pb_in which case, we basically just need a new set of webpages in the same approximate style.
18:05.42pb_I'd like to retain the "walkthrough" kind of approach, since this seems to have worked well in the past.
18:05.51pb_hi reenoo
18:05.57reenoohey pb_
18:06.22mreimerpb_: ok. we also have multiple installation options: rootfs on CF, SD, internal flash, plus one can either boot from haret (for the dual-booters) or from LAB installed in flash
18:07.03pb_mreimer: okay
18:07.35pb_mreimer: I guess it isn't strictly necessary to document all the permutations, just the most common or useful one(s)
18:07.55pb_for example, if you decided that the only "supported" approach for 0.8.4 was to install into internal flash with LAB, that would be fine
18:08.18mreimerpb_: yeah, for time I'll probably have to do that
18:08.35mreimerpb_: but the speed increase of not having to use jffs2 tempts me to document the others
18:08.58mreimerI suppose I can always footnote the wiki page
18:09.05pb_yeah
18:10.55pb_by the way, does anybody know if netfilter has a "random drop" match option?  I thought it did but I can't find one now.
18:11.34pb_need to simulate various kinds of packet loss conditions for testing
18:17.55mreimerreenoo: I have a few h2200 patches for 0.8.4 to test, then I'll commit to .oz354fam083
18:18.32reenoomreimer: excellent. please go ahead.
18:19.22mreimerreenoo: lamikr approves of using udev 0.84, so I don't think there is any reason not to include it in fam 0.8.4
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18:20.52reenoomreimer: yeah, I saw that, just haven't got around to replying yet
18:21.12mreimerpb_: is the familiar installation manual in CVS somewhere?
18:21.42pb_mreimer: yeah, I think so.  let me check
18:22.25pb_it's in familiar/website
18:23.12mreimerthanks pb_
18:23.13koenheh
18:23.17koennot according to france
18:24.01mreimerhmm, cvs only has 0.8.0
18:24.31pb_ah, so it does
18:24.43pb_that's a bit weird, but I guess it hasn't changed much since 0.8.0
18:24.49pb_let me diff the 0.8.0 version against 0.8.2
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18:26.03pb_mreimer: http://handhelds.org/~pb/install.diff is the differences
18:26.11mreimerthanks pb_
18:26.33obergix[work]hi from Brazil
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18:26.47pb_hail zecke
18:26.58zeckehey
18:27.04koenhey obergix[work]
18:27.05koenobergix[work]: FISL?
18:27.38koenhey zecke
18:28.30obergix[work]koen: yep
18:28.48JustinPkoen: error compiling gcc-4.1.0 (not cross)
18:28.58obergix[work]at least 3 state governors in VIP room now... lucky me... libre software is really hype here
18:29.13zeckegoxboxlive: hey
18:29.31zeckegoxboxlive: could you send me all the files you are using and which are not in OE?
18:29.38koenJustinP: there's a patch for that in bugzilla
18:30.18koenJustinP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=851
18:31.56koenJustinP: if the lack of response on the bugs stays the same I'll apply the patch in the weekend
18:32.45JustinPkoen: ok. I'll apply it locally for now so I can keep building ^_^
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18:34.13pb_zecke: seems you were too slow in forking that code
18:34.37zeckepb_: maybe I control reenoos mind
18:35.01pb_oh, hadn't thought of that
18:35.23zeckemaybe reenoo is just a script written in nickel?
18:35.26fromvegaHello
18:35.35pb_just so long as you don't control _my_ mind...
18:35.57zeckepb_: I have forked it, and had adequately bashings in the header
18:36.08zeckepb_: though I didn't came around pushing it ;)
18:36.49fromvegaDo you know any free software for data aquisition systems? I mean, a software that reads data from serial port (or another port) and presents some usefull features like graphs, logs and etc? Or anything that can read and send control signals back?
18:37.10zeckefromvega: | :)
18:37.23fromvegazecke: | ?
18:37.24zeckefromvega: GNU plot, occtave, microcom/cu
18:37.30fromvegazecke: hum....
18:39.48fromvegazecke: is that I'm developing a simple data aquisition and control system, where I will read data from sensors and send back some commands for attached devices. I want to design a software for that, where the user can create some control routines without programming.
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18:41.13fromvegazecke: what's occtave and  microcom/cu ?
18:41.31zeckefromvega: google
18:41.37koen~google octave
18:41.40zeckefromvega: cu -> get data from the serial
18:42.09fromvegazecke: it's  oCtave or oCCtave?
18:42.50zeckefromvega: what do you think?
18:43.23zecke:)
18:43.37zeckefromvega: I normally follow google's 'Did you mean...'
18:43.50koenzecke: does octave handle softfpa correctly yet?
18:43.52fromvegazecke: ok, is that you have written with double CC so I get confused. But google found some occtave
18:44.05fromvegahehe
18:45.57fromvegazecke: and how about microcom/cu ? google does not found much.
18:46.15koenthat's microcom or cu
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18:46.20zeckefromvega: microcom or cu
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18:46.50pb_or minicom, even
18:48.17JustinPWTF is up with sf.net and gtk-webcore
18:48.30JustinPkoen: have you done any gpe builds lately with angstrom?
18:48.42pb_same thing that's always up with sourceforge's cvs tree, I guess
18:48.45JustinPkoen: perhaps you have a copy of JavaScriptCore_cvs.sourceforge.net__20060212.tar.gz I could borrow?
18:49.01zeckeJustinP: I have a diff from pb_, but I can't build librsvg to test the change?
18:49.06JustinPI haven't been able to check out the jscore module for a while...
18:49.08pb_you can use the ones from the familiar 0.8.3 source stash, probably
18:49.08zeckeJustinP: try the familiar oesources.org
18:49.13pb_http://familiar.handhelds.org/source/
18:50.03JustinPthis version is only used if you're compiling with gcc4
18:50.08goxboxlivezecke: Hi there, i am back. Yes can have those three files fromemen, but i have managed to build task-boostrap now. Struggling with the bootsrap-image because of this: http://pastebin.com/669816
18:51.03JustinPpb_, zecke: yep, the one up there is the older version
18:51.05zeckegoxboxlive: well
18:51.11koenzecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/
18:51.12koenehm
18:51.15koenJustinP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/
18:51.16JustinPI need someone who is compiling with GCC4 to give me the snapshot...
18:51.34JustinPkoen: thx much
18:51.36zeckegoxboxlive: well
18:51.38pb_oh, right.  the checkout version depends on your compiler version?  that's kind of funky
18:51.41JustinPkoen: will probably need that nrcit one as well
18:51.48zeckegoxboxlive: you build the stuff without packaging support ;)
18:52.00zeckegoxboxlive: this means even if you have built pciutils, usbutils
18:52.08zeckegoxboxlive: you do not have ipk packages ;)
18:52.16koenJustinP: all my sf.net checkouts are in that location now
18:52.34zeckeI can't wait for the next congres...
18:52.41zeckeI will mirror sf.net :}
18:53.00JustinPkoen: cool , thanks :-)
18:54.16goxboxlivezecke: But, when i made the task-bootsrap it mad a whole lot of *.ipk's More than i can count in an hour :-)
18:55.41zeckegoxboxlive: it did? well, you can only install stuff into a ipk image, where you have ipks ;)
18:57.58goxboxliveZecke': Yes i ran bitbake task-bootstrap and it got build :  ls -la /usr/src/universal/deploy/ipk/task*
18:57.59goxboxlive-rw-r--r-- 1 jrs src 932 2006-04-19 17:52 /usr/src/universal/deploy/ipk/task-bootstrap_1.0-r25_htcuniversal.ipk
18:58.20zeckegoxboxlive: try to read
18:58.28zeckegoxboxlive: reading is awesome, it helps you out
18:58.47koenNOTE: package edje-native-0.5.0.025-r3: task do_fetch: started
18:58.49koenNOTE: Update cvs://anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org/var/cvs/e;module=e17/libs/edje/m4;date=20060101
18:58.50koencvs [update aborted]: connect to thinktux.net(213.239.215.151):2401 failed: Connection refused
18:58.54koenhrm
18:59.39koenJustinP: shouldn't it be using the new cvs repo?
18:59.39zecke| linux-hotplug: unsatisfied recommendation for pciutils
18:59.39zecke| linux-hotplug: unsatisfied recommendation for usbutils
18:59.45zeckeno bugs though
18:59.57zeckegoxboxlive:  kernel-module-htcuniversal-phone-2.6 kernel-module-htcuniversal-wlan-2.6 udev
18:59.58koen| zecke:
19:00.07koen| zecke:  unsatisfied recommendation for bugs
19:00.07zeckegoxboxlive: there are no packages for that
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19:01.07goxboxlivezecke: I know, but the starnge thing is that i have removed them from the htcuniversal.conf file.
19:01.46zeckegoxboxlive: and changing that file, changes the contents of the ipk?
19:02.05JustinPkoen: yeah....
19:02.58JustinPkoen: strange thing, though: cvs://anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org       connect to thinktux.net
19:03.33koenaargh
19:03.42JustinPI noticed that earlier too
19:04.06JustinPI also looked in my sources dir and I had the tarballs for these....but they had a ":" after the host so they weren't picked up
19:04.20JustinPI really shouldn't be pulling that stuff from cvs but...::shrug::
19:04.36goxboxlivezecke: Actually i have no idea. Maybe this is way to hig for me, actually i dont get it. But i'll try to build pciutils ,usbutils and udev now.
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19:05.30mickeylkoen: rm -rf CVS in your sources. reading Root from CVS always gets preferred
19:05.33mickeylbbl, tv
19:06.03JustinPah....
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19:07.56zeckegoxboxlive: read again
19:08.20zeckegoxboxlive: you change the DEPENDENCIES of a package, rebuild the package
19:08.35koenmickey|tv: and another point why cvs sucks donkey ass
19:11.05zeckegoxboxlive: rebuild task-bootstrap
19:11.34zeckegoxboxlive: your EXTRA_DEPENDS in htc...conf get put into the 'Depends line' of the package
19:11.51zeckegoxboxlive: once the ipk is built, bitbake will not rebuild it
19:12.46goxboxlivezecke: ok i'll try :-/
19:12.50goxboxlivethx
19:14.06zeckegoxboxlive: bitbake will only rebuild a package if
19:14.21zeckegoxboxlive: the PV or PR changes
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19:17.19koenhey Pigi
19:17.58Pigihi koen !
19:18.10XorApgas: new links-x11 version just for you
19:18.31CIA-903xora 07org.oe.dev * rbc59ba05... 10/packages/links/ (4 files): links-x11_2.1pre21.bb, links_2.1pre21.bb : new versions
19:19.42pgasXorA: well, I hope for you too, I'm not using Oz atm ;)
19:20.03pgasthanks anyway
19:20.21zeckemickey|tv: what is the state of QtopiaCore in OE?
19:20.22XorApgas: whats your current poison then?
19:20.35pgaspdaxrom of course :)
19:20.52koenah, 2.4-crappix
19:20.57XorApgas: heh heh, Im sure with 10 secs of .conf file making you can get OE ti build packages
19:21.36koenXorA: every time we suggest that sash puts his fingers in his ears and goes "la la la la la la"
19:22.10XorAkoen: Im not suggesting sash use it, but as far as I recall, pdaXrom uses similar glibc and gcc to use and basic difference is the ipkg format
19:22.25pgasyeah, note that he knows his build system from A to Z so it's understandable
19:22.26koenXorA: glibc 2.ancient
19:22.26XorAkoen: but it should be fairly simple to get OE to output packages for pdaX
19:22.51koenXorA: yeah, just assume_provided gcc and glibc and you should be good to go
19:23.03pgasand some packages in the pdaxrom builder are missing from oe
19:23.12XorApgas: Oh, do tell
19:23.14pgas(and vice versa of course_
19:23.35koenI think more packages are missing from the builder than the reverse
19:23.48koenwith 2 or 3 orders of magnitude
19:24.30mreimerreenoo: http://pastebin.com/669901
19:24.38koen("not in OZ feed" != "not in OE", fwiw)
19:24.38zeckekoen: don't you get it?
19:24.51pgaskoen: I know
19:24.54zeckekoen: people want to be reliable on one person alone, single point of failure
19:24.57koenzecke: no, I'm pretty thick
19:24.58zeckekoen: cope with that
19:25.10zeckerely even...
19:25.33koenzecke: and demand $500/month
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19:27.55pgaskoen do you have a problem with money?
19:28.19Croftonyeah, he spends it all :)
19:29.20CroftonShould bitbake boostrap-image work with the latest bitbake from svn?
19:29.33koenCrofton: depends on your machine/distro
19:29.38koenCrofton: but generally: yes
19:29.40CroftonMine fails after parsing with the sanity check message
19:29.44Croftonhmm
19:29.59zeckekoen: do you know any issue?
19:30.23Croftonmachine would be omap5912osk and distro is openomap
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19:30.41koenzecke: issue with what?
19:30.41zeckeCrofton: and openomap.conf exists in conf/distro?
19:30.46Croftonyeah
19:30.53zeckekoen: building images with a new bitbake
19:30.57Croftonkergoth made it when I started fooling iththis stuff
19:31.04CroftonI suspect it is a copy if something
19:31.09koenzecke: I haven't found any yet
19:31.12zeckenjs: I have question regarding metaclasses?
19:31.12cbrakeCrofton: I got the sanity check message as well, but then the second time I ran bitbake, I did not get it.
19:31.23Croftonok
19:31.27koenzecke: or something went wrong with short term memory -> long term memory
19:31.29CroftonI'll try that :)
19:31.41Croftonnow I am building
19:32.05CroftonI assume I should look into all the errors during parsing when I have free time ?
19:32.42CosmicPenguinno
19:32.43CosmicPenguindo it now!
19:32.45CosmicPenguindo it!
19:33.17Croftonheh
19:33.28Croftonoverload/multi-tasking is occuring
19:33.34Croftonto many threads of execution
19:34.04cbrakewow, bitbake sure is fast now -- takes less than a second if the data is cached -- very nice :-)
19:34.51CosmicPenguinYeah, its slick isn't it?
19:35.15gremlin[it]opssss ... i update my monotone to 0.26 ... oe will upgrade to 0.26 ???
19:37.45gremlin[it]i got the message >>> mtn: misuse:   wait for a leader to migrate project data, ... <<<
19:38.00koenlater all
19:38.29cbrakegremlin[it]: I think you want to stay at 0.25
19:39.13cyrilRomaingremlin[it]: there is big changes between 0.25 and 0.26 which implies to completly rebuild the project history
19:39.30gremlin[it]cbrake too late ... i upgrage monotone (easy to revert) and update the oe database (i suppose less easy to revert) :( :( :(
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19:39.49cbrakegremlin[it]: :-(
19:39.50cyrilRomaingremlin[it]: someone here told me OE will probably switch with the 0.27 release
19:40.53cyrilRomaingremlin[it]: because we all need to switch together
19:41.49CSManXorA: hey man , i built mplayer-atty apparently the story is different than oz's
19:42.34gremlin[it]cyrilRomain yes i understand just asking if 0.25 -> 0.26 was a work in progess ...
19:43.06cyrilRomaingremlin[it]: don't know...
19:44.37pgasIs there a page somewhere describing the strong point of bitbake/openembedded ?
19:44.47pgass/point/points ?
19:45.02pgasie why one would want to use OE?
19:45.46CSManwhen i'm missing some app i just build it with oe
19:46.31Pigilater all
19:46.32CosmicPenguinBecause it has koen's personal guarantee of personal satisfaction or your money back
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19:49.07cedricevening
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19:49.48cyrilRomainpgas: not on the wiki in my knowledge, but I think a strong point is patches inclusion for openzaurus, a tool to create cross-toolchains, and of course cross-compiling
19:49.50cedricRP: which config should I set for the LEDs?
19:50.34Croftonpgas, the need for OE marketing literature has been identified :)
19:52.06pgasyeah, knowing  what it does could be usefull to convince people to use it..patches inclusion, cross-toolchains and cross compiling is what I would expect of such a system
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19:54.19XorACSMan: in what way?
19:55.31reenoomreimer: hmm. isn't gpe-nmf 0.22 picked by default anyway? or do you just want it pinned to a specific version?
19:55.43RPcedric: I'll have a look.
19:56.05mreimerreenoo: didn't preferred-versions specify 0.21 before?
19:56.36CSManXorA: it's not playing , like it gets stuck and cpu goes to 100%
19:56.48RPcedric: CONFIG_NEW_LEDS, CONFIG_LEDS_CLASS, CONFIG_LED_TRIGGERS, CONFIG_LED_TRIGGER* and CONFIG_LEDS_LOCOMO
19:57.13XorACSMan: did you resize video to 320x240 or 240x320 depending on which way your native framebuffer goes?
19:57.17reenoomreimer: unless the parser is ignoring the leading #, no, doesn't seem like it
19:57.31CSManXorA: i'm just trying to play an mp3 file which mpg123 can do without a problem
19:57.33XorACSMan: also you might want to try -ac mad, if mplayer-config didnt work for some reason
19:57.48cedricRP: thx dude
19:58.14mreimerreenoo: d'oh. ok
19:58.20CSManXorA: vc -mad worked just fine ! what codec was I using ?
19:58.34XorACSMan: the floating point on, mp3lib
19:58.41CSManOMG
19:59.06CSManXorA: what do you mean mplayer-config may have not worked?
19:59.35XorACSMan: Coredump added a mplayer-config.bb which install a config that is supposed to make -ac mad default
20:00.02XorACSMan: mplayer-common sorry
20:00.18CSManXorA: so if i install mplayer-common that should do the job
20:00.34XorACSMan: mplayer-atty should Depend on it
20:00.40zeckenjs: wow metaclasses are sexy
20:00.48XorACSMan: as should mplayer
20:01.16CSMani don't have it in my repository
20:01.26XorACSMan: you on a branch
20:01.30CSMananyway, i'll just tweak the .mplayer/config
20:01.41CSManXorA: .dev
20:01.47XorACSMan: yeah, thats what I have, my mplayer is so old :-)
20:01.49CSManis that a branch ?
20:01.55XorACSMan: no thats mainline
20:02.20CSManah, i find bitbake convenient but a bit mixed up with all those branches
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20:03.32zeckeyeah baby
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20:03.38zeckeyeah give it to me
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20:03.51XorAWTF
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20:04.04Croftonthis is annoying
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20:04.27CSManwhat a loser
20:04.29kajon#fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
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20:04.37CSMankajon: come hack my server, please, i beg you
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20:04.51*** part/#oe kajon (n=ein@66.229.44.246)
20:05.03XorAbizarre
20:05.12XorAthats not even effective spam
20:05.15CosmicPenguinWheres a channel op when you need them?
20:05.26reenoo<PROTECTED>
20:05.29pgasehe, been like this all day
20:05.31reenooworks wonders
20:06.10XorAis that one of those boot all the *doze users off irc hacks or something?
20:06.14CosmicPenguinYou would think that the MOTD would actually tell us how to contact somebody in charge
20:06.25zeckeChanServ claims OE is registered
20:06.45RPCosmicPenguin: try lilo failing all else
20:06.50CosmicPenguinheh
20:07.06CroftonI wonder who has ops here?
20:07.07fishheadCosmicCANUCK
20:07.15fishheadsince I am kinda busy and might not be paying attention
20:07.22fishheadif that spamming idiot comes back let me know in /msg
20:07.30fishheadI can have my friends make his life very miserable
20:07.32CosmicPenguindude - I wouldn't talk to you if you owned the joint
20:07.39fishhead:(
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20:08.36zeckeCosmicPenguin: how should one understand the last sentence?
20:08.59CosmicPenguinnot sure
20:09.05CosmicPenguinI just sort of typed it off the cuff
20:09.52zeckewell, sounds like 'tension'
20:09.53fishheadmeanie :(
20:10.05zeckebut well, I haven't said anything
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20:18.30CIA-903lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r334808b0... 10/packages/openobex/ (files/libusb_crosscompile_check.patch openobex_1.2.bb): openobex: Openobex failed to compiler due to error in checking libusb.pc in the crosscompiler environment.
20:23.14cedricRP: Registered led device: locomo:amber
20:23.14cedricRegistered led device: locomo:green
20:26.19cedricRP: how can I test it?
20:27.04fishheadhttp://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20060419PR204.html
20:27.06fishheadmmmm
20:27.37cedricRP: echo 1 > brightness
20:27.51cedricRP: works for both leds... :-)
20:29.42cedric~praise RP
20:29.43ibotAll hail RP!
20:30.06lamikrHi
20:30.20cedricnite all
20:32.02lamikrAny idea how to remove/prevent empty /etc/modules.conf file to appear to gpe-images automatically? After I removed that, the update-modules configured the /etc/modules file correctly in 084-prebuild in the first boot?
20:36.04pb_lamikr: Which package does ipkg think it came from?
20:36.40lamikrpb_: Hmm, can I check that easily?
20:36.46pb_"ipkg search /etc/modules.conf"
20:36.55pb_or inspect the .list files in /usr/lib/ipkg/info by hand
20:37.41lamikrpb_: I will check that once I get my kernel again to compilable state...
20:39.20pb_okay
20:39.42pb_if it's in a package, obviously you would need to inspect that package to find out why it's there.
20:40.00pb_if it isn't in any package, it's probably coming from a malfunctioning postinst script.
20:40.32pb_in that latter case, you'd need to use grep in usr/lib/ipkg/info to identify likely culprits
20:42.31lamikrI will try :-)
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20:43.40zeckeRP: I have a hacky solution now
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20:45.44rob_whow can i again migrate the db ?
20:46.09zeckerob_w: monotone db?
20:46.18rob_wyes
20:46.26zeckerob_w: monotone --db OE.db db migrate ?
20:46.34zeckerob_w: or how to rosterify for monotone 0.26?
20:47.19rob_wyeah i ve a new host and had missong monotoe .. so took the binary 0.26 and now it wants that
20:47.42zeckerob_w: are you aware of the implications of monotone 0.26?
20:47.59zeckerob_w: if you use it, you can not connect to ewi etc...
20:48.15zeckecbrake: did you mail me earlier this week?
20:48.23rob_werr
20:48.34cbrakezecke: yes
20:48.49zeckecbrake: sorry, I still need to respond :}
20:49.05zeckecbrake: it is still in my inbox, and awaiting action
20:49.21cbrakezecke: no problem.
20:50.01rob_wzecke how about dominion ?
20:50.13zeckerob_w: all, they use monotone 0.25
20:50.23rob_wi see ..
20:50.27zeckerob_w: 0.26 is a more dramatic (to the better) change of monotone
20:50.40zeckerob_w: but we need to have a migration plan for it first
20:50.41RPzecke: Hacky solution to which problem?
20:50.46zeckeRP: cow
20:50.53rob_wso why does it then implicate that horrible outcome
20:51.03RPzecke: yay :)
20:51.13zeckerob_w: new core, new way of storing the data ;)
20:51.14RPzecke: It gives the 1 minute speed improvement?
20:51.19zeckerob_w: IANA assigned network port?
20:51.23rob_wi imagine then i cannot build if i miss those servers , as i also saw that anon access to vanille is off
20:51.25zeckeRP: dunno
20:51.36zeckerob_w: it is off?
20:51.45zeckerob_w: monotone 0.26 connects at another port ;)
20:51.57zeckerob_w: simples solution, get monotone 0.25
20:51.58rob_wzecke, err not vanille but some 3rd one
20:52.14zeckerob_w: and wait for monotone 0.26+
20:52.19rob_walrighto .. will it merge back or do i need a new oe.db ?
20:52.32zeckerob_w: dunno, I think a new one
20:53.09zeckeRP: I hate when I forget 'time'
20:54.25rob_wzecke ,, hehe i wonder when the day comes when i get the gettingstarted stuff by head .. not today
20:55.10zeckerob_w: the day we improve our docu?
20:56.17reenoomreimer: while you're working on h2200 stuff... could you add an fstab for h2200?
20:56.31mreimerreenoo: sure. where?
20:56.41mreimeri.e. what package?
20:56.43zeckereenoo: thanks for removing the last lines from detect stylus :)
20:56.52reenoomreimer: base-files
20:57.08mreimerreenoo: what is lacking?
20:57.46Ken|JLimeAny suggestions on what to do while doing update?... Read a book?
20:58.13reenoomreimer: check the ones of the other ipaqs. a tmpfs entry for /var would be most important I think
20:58.19mreimerreenoo: ok
20:58.43rob_wzecke, probably
20:58.55reenoomreimer: thanks
20:59.36zeckeRP: could you parse on a slower machine for me?
20:59.44reenoozecke: heh. I just patched it up a bit. pb_ is going to split the code into two separate apps properly.
21:00.12rob_werror , my mozilla breaks on the link to the db snapshots .. wtf ?!?
21:00.27cyrilRomainrob_w: I updated the getttingStarted two days ago, because I'm trying to dive into OE. I'm completly new to OE and don't have enough experience to make docu more clear and more complete, sorry :-/
21:00.34zeckereenoo: I weren't able to argh.. 'ueberzeugen'... I hope you get what I meant...
21:01.42rob_wcyrilRomain, then i could imagine other people to worry about this
21:01.43zeckehttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/data_cow.patch
21:02.16rob_wzecke,  is that for me ?
21:02.23zeckeno
21:02.27zeckefor RP to test parsing
21:02.33zeckeI see no difference on ewi
21:02.36rob_wsorry
21:02.42zeckebut that is a pretty...
21:02.51zeckereenoo: hehe, mine as well..
21:03.10zeckereenoo|afk: I hope mine is crowded 200+ so this one gets split up
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21:10.54zeckenite
21:11.44pb_zecke: night night
21:13.51RPhmm. That's what I get for not paying attention...
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21:30.01JustinPnow gst-plugins fails...Package gstreamer-0.8 was not found.....looks like it compiled gstreamer-0.10.4
21:33.45CSManXorA: well, i got mplayer running, what's a good format to play with ?
21:34.24XorACSMan:
21:34.39XorACSMan: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/encoding-and-playing-video-for-c7x0-devices/
21:34.52XorACSMan: that approx what I do
21:35.22rob_wnow i am AGAIN stuck on boost , argh
21:35.34CSManrob_w: what happened with boost
21:36.18rob_wCSMan, ive to rebuild it as iam on a new host .. took over the trees but i need ot reinstall boost and monotone
21:36.31rob_wand boost misses now that filesystem stuff
21:36.36CSManrob_w: i remember i had a problem with unit tests, i had to change LANG_ALL to en_US
21:37.05rob_wCSMan, where is that ?
21:37.38CSManwell, it wasn't boost itself but a dependency : icu
21:38.09rob_wicu =?
21:38.12CSManand it was in freebsd
21:38.18rob_woh
21:41.55rob_wusr/include/boost/config/compiler/gcc.hpp:92:7: warning: #warning "Unknown compiler version - please run the configure tests and report the results"
21:49.11CSManXorA: appreciated =)
21:50.05rob_wahm , all 291 tests in monotone/testsuite failed ?!?
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22:11.31Ken|JLimeWhere should I send new files and patches?
22:21.16Ken|JLimeAnyone familiar with this error? ERROR: Error Method already seen: get_glibc_fpu_setting in' glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb' now in 'glibc-package.bbclass'
22:27.10RPKen|JLime: You can safely ignore it
22:27.27Ken|JLimeAh nice to know
22:27.38Ken|JLimeBtw, where should I upload new distro file?..
22:29.48RPKen|JLime: Patches should go into the bugzilla
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22:33.13Ken|JLimeOki, thx
22:33.17TheMasterMind1shouldn't we do a s,ERROR,WARNING, on that
22:33.28TheMasterMind1if not supress it
22:33.50RPTheMasterMind1: Yes and no. It is actually a real bug
22:34.14RPIt just so happens we don't see any error due to it...
22:36.48cyrilRomainRP, TheMasterMind1: I think it is worth mention it in the GettingStarted page if you don't remove it
22:37.29RPcyrilRomain: Its a transient thing - we'll either fix it or remove the warning, once we decide on the correct approach
22:39.17lamikrpb_: I think I found the causer of /etc/modules.conf... Just removed modutils-collateral from the h6300.conf
22:39.24JustinPtmbinc: ping
22:39.29CIA-903lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re2d14610... 10/conf/machine/h6300.conf: h6300.conf: remove modutils-collateral to get the update-modules to create /etc/modules correctly during the first boot.
22:42.43JustinPtmbinc: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=880
22:48.08cyrilRomainRP: ok then.
22:59.02reenoolamikr: could you please remove the ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION/ASSUME_PROVIDED stuff and reinstate the correct include statement?
22:59.59mreimerreenoo: have you decided to include udev 0.84, or should I put a PREFERRED_VERSION for it in h2200.conf?
23:00.45reenoomreimer: I'm fine with upgrading udev to 084
23:00.59mreimerok, I'll leave h2200.conf then
23:01.00reenoomreimer: PREFERRED_VERSION alone wouldn't work btw
23:01.22mreimerI've been using PREFERRED_VERSION_udev = "084" in my h2200.conf for a little while now, and it seems to work
23:01.34mreimerare you using a different procedure than build gpe-image?
23:01.46reenooyes and no
23:02.07reenooimages are built for all target devices
23:02.45reenooif one of those decides to build more recent _arm packages, all devices will get the more recent version
23:03.16mreimeroh, because of the way ipkg-index works?
23:04.06lamikrreenoo: Hups, sorry I forget those there. I will now send the fix.
23:04.33reenoomreimer: even if ipkg-make-index didn't move stuff to the morgue I'm moderately sure ipkg would pick the more recent version if more than one version is present
23:04.55mreimerah I se
23:04.56mreimere
23:05.25reenoolamikr: thanks. you probably want to move the ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION/ASSUME_PROVIDED stuff to your local.conf
23:07.54lamikrreenoo: Yes, I will do that. I just do not like much from the local.conf as it tends to have uncommitted stuff. But for that it is ok.
23:10.14reenoolamikr: well. you have to distinguish between build specific, site specific, and generally valid data. only the last category may go into the files in conf/, the others must remain in your local configuration files
23:11.52emtein regards to JustinP 's mailing list message
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23:12.35reenoorunning in a chroot is actually the better approach
23:13.20reenooprobably the only way to get fully reproducable builds
23:14.34lamikrreenoo: I put by accident the incorrect comment to my oe.db. (same than in earlier h6300.conf commit). I have not pushed it yet. Do you know is there any method to revert the change without pulling the oe.db again from the server?
23:16.55reenoolamikr: you mean you want to change the commit message after the actual commit? no idea, sorry. if the commit just cleans up h6300.conf, it's probably not worth worrying about.
23:17.41lamikrYes, that's what I meant. Well, I am too tired, so I will just push this cleanup.
23:18.14reenoogo ahead
23:18.27lamikrthanks, done now.
23:19.00emtereenoo, i agree, i havent tried it since bitbake was renamed. but especially with QEMU you cannot do that
23:19.27CIA-903lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9f2e3548... 10/conf/machine/h6300.conf: h6300.conf: remove modutils-collateral to get the update-modules to create /etc/modules correctly during the first boot.
23:19.39emtei am still getting QEMU accessing root directories and genrerating files outside of the bitbake root
23:20.18lamikrgood night
23:20.20emteto qualify that, the only reason i know is that QEMU is not installed on my host and i am finding labled files
23:21.15emtebut maybe that has been fixed now
23:21.50reenoolamikr: 'night
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23:27.45ggilbert/dev/sdb1             112G  6.1G  106G   6% /storage. Yay.
23:28.13emtewoohoo :)
23:28.43emteggilbert, you going to setup an access/request tracker?
23:28.52ggilbertemte: request tracker?
23:29.31emtefile access/request to generate a list of used filed
23:29.33emtefiles*
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23:29.57emtethen you could use a script to move them to holding for a month and del em after that
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23:30.24ggilbertWhat the fuck
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23:30.54NA|GoneMmm, spam.
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23:30.56ggilbertemte: ah. I've been meaning to do something like that. Even have a custom bitbake lib app
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23:30.59JustinPcould someone set the channel +R?
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23:31.08ggilbertbut I doubt it still runs after all this time
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23:31.40emteggilbert, you could use a bit fancier tool ...
23:31.57ggilberthehe. It was pretty darned fancy :p
23:31.59emtei am trying to remeber ... there is one taht is actually an apache module ...
23:32.33ggilbertThis one was basically a replacement for using bitbake -cfetch
23:32.50JustinPkoen|away: we need to fix this gnome-vfs-dbus thing....I keep having to add this to my local.conf: PREFERRED_VERSION_gnome-vfs-dbus = "svn"
23:33.40ggilbertexcept it kept track of everything
23:34.29emteyeah ...
23:34.49emtei belive i "may" be thinking about webalizer <?sp>
23:34.59ggilbertoh, access log stuff
23:35.15ggilbertI thought you meant for archive maintenance
23:35.19emtei do
23:35.23emtebased on access
23:35.32emtewhich to me makes sense
23:35.46ggilbertyeah, a bit
23:36.34ggilbertMy primary source of  concern is what has packages in the oe repository
23:36.54ggilbertthen after that frequency of access
23:37.10emteyou could setup your scripts taht way ...
23:37.30ggilbertyeah
23:37.42emtei would suspect the LICENSE ones would be run all the time
23:37.47emteaccess based once a month
23:38.36ggilbertWell there's really two potential use cases
23:38.54ggilbert1) some SRC_URI where upstream disappeared
23:39.19emteyeah, exceptions override list (protected)
23:39.53ggilbertThat stuff really doesnt matter to me much when it comes to pruning
23:40.22ggilbert2) The floating snapshot oe
23:40.37ggilbertThose suck up tons of disk space for little benefit
23:41.09emteyou archiving more than two?
23:42.22ggilbertRight now I've been archiving till full
23:42.58emteeww
23:43.41ggilbertOf that 112g drive, about 9g was being eaten  by oe temp files. 80 or so by the CVS/Snapshot downloads and 5 by regular source downloads
23:43.50ggilbertalong with the balance being my personal stuff
23:44.12ggilbertSo as it stands, it seems like the key here is just managing the stuff that floats based on the date
23:44.56ggilbertBecause my intent is to keep anything that is hardcoded
23:45.50ggilbertMaybe keep them for 1 yeard after they leave the repo
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23:46.32emte1yr seems excessive
23:50.01ggilbertYeah. Was just picking a safe number
23:50.17ggilbertthe idea is that for stuff like that, I want to leave a bit of wiggle room for people coding off older snapshots
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23:51.39ggilbertthe same goes for the CVS_TARBALL_STASH stuff, but it's more expensive to keep and isn't necesarrily useful. So that's where I might use the access logs
23:52.08ggilbertbut I'm not sure how to differentiate something that's a floating cvs build from something that's a hardcoded cvs build
23:52.32ggilbertall of our opie stuff comes out of CVS ( or did when I last looked)
23:52.52ggilbertI don't want the source for opie 0.9.3 to disappear just because the script thinks it's 15 or 30 days old
23:53.30ggilbertCosmicPenguin: btw, I know you guys use the tarball stash, how long of a lag time would AMD find appropriate?

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