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| 07:07.33 | _law_ | any ideas? http://pastebin.com/643597 |
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| 07:48.36 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:49.12 | hrw|work | _law_: bitbake trunk? cache clear does not help? |
| 07:50.07 | _law_ | hrw|work, yes trunk, its ah totaly new build-tmp |
| 07:50.29 | _law_ | hrw|work, wanna build oz354x for my husky |
| 07:50.35 | Genesis | morning sir . |
| 07:50.59 | hrw|work | lamikr: oz354x NEED r329 bitbake |
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| 07:54.37 | RP | morning all |
| 07:55.18 | RP | hrw|work: I've tested the status of alpha2 and the kerneluedv is fine. Somehow GPE is using very small fonts though. Perhaps this is because I did an incemental image rebuild? |
| 07:55.36 | hrw|work | RP: probably |
| 07:55.49 | hrw|work | RP: coredump worked on 200dpi recently |
| 07:56.26 | RP | hrw|work: ok, I'll run a total rebuild - I guess some PR wasn't bumped |
| 08:02.21 | hrw|work | RP: mmcsd_no_scr_check-r0.patch - does it work? |
| 08:03.26 | RP | hrw|work: No idea - no feedback :-( |
| 08:04.38 | hrw|work | RP: iirc your coworkers has such cards.... |
| 08:05.10 | RP | hrw|work: You do rc although they haven't got around to testing it :-/ |
| 08:05.17 | _law_ | hrw|work, ok thanks so i?ll checkout r329 |
| 08:07.53 | hrw|work | RP: borrow card for few minutes and insert into Z :) |
| 08:08.06 | hrw|work | WORKING one :) |
| 08:08.08 | RP | Did anyone here have an SD card that gave the unrecognised SCR error? |
| 08:08.25 | RP | hrw|work: They're in London, I'm a few hundred miles away in Newcastle |
| 08:09.27 | hrw|work | ah. |
| 08:21.08 | hrw|work | RP: can we enable kexec for 3.5.4.1? |
| 08:22.32 | RP | hrw|work: As long as it doesn't upset the size of the cxx00 kernels |
| 08:23.39 | hrw|work | RP: can it be in module if upset? |
| 08:25.17 | XorA | morning |
| 08:25.25 | RP | hrw|work: It can;t |
| 08:25.39 | hrw|work | ok |
| 08:25.41 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
| 08:25.57 | RP | hrw|work: It doesn't look very big though - I've enabled it locally for my rebuild and we can see what happens |
| 08:26.37 | RP | hrw|work: http://sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/3.5.4.1-alpha2/ was the result of my last build btw |
| 08:26.56 | hrw|work | RP: I'm building from scratch since yesterday |
| 08:29.34 | hrw|work | with rm_work and src_distribute_local |
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| 08:37.32 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 08:37.57 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 08:38.57 | CoreDump|home | fwiw. kexec works fine w/ 2.6.15 on SL-Cxxxx |
| 08:42.38 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: we moved to .16 |
| 08:43.01 | CoreDump|home | neat! |
| 08:43.18 | hrw|work | building 3.5.4.1 from scratch now |
| 08:43.35 | hrw|work | s/.1/.1-alpha2 |
| 08:43.52 | CoreDump|home | I'm just checking GPE and Opie after a clean build |
| 08:44.36 | RP | CoreDump|home: I saw dpi issues on my last gpe build but I think we must have missed a bumped PR somewhere... |
| 08:44.55 | hrw|work | for machine in c7x0 spitz akita;do echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\"" > conf/auto.conf;echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\"";bitbake gpe-image opie-image bootstrap-image;done |
| 08:45.01 | hrw|work | how to not love power of sh ;) |
| 08:45.18 | RP | hrw|work: Funnily enough I have something very similar :) |
| 08:45.32 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: hah, remove any MACHINE= settings from any conf and do |
| 08:45.32 | RP | hrw|work: Have we any plans to include the glibc locale pregeneration? |
| 08:45.36 | hrw|work | RP: oz-build.sh is a bit more complicated |
| 08:45.40 | CoreDump|home | for machine in 1 2 3 4 5 |
| 08:45.52 | CoreDump|home | do export MACHINE=1 ; bitbake blahh |
| 08:45.57 | hrw|work | RP: after alpha2 |
| 08:45.59 | CoreDump|home | works perfectly ;) |
| 08:46.17 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I do not want to remember that I lack MACHINE every time when I want to extra build something |
| 08:46.28 | CoreDump|home | fair enough |
| 08:46.46 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: I usually have collie as last machine so I can do 'for do done' build and then build any updates for _arm |
| 08:47.03 | hrw|work | ~hail account on ewi |
| 08:47.05 | ibot | ACTION bows down to account on ewi and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 08:47.36 | hrw|work | did you guys read my '3.5.4.x plans' mail on oz-devel? |
| 08:47.53 | CoreDump|home | ok, one DPI issue here, too. But that might just be a result of hentges-* stuff. Building default GPE now |
| 08:48.30 | _law_ | hrw|work, samw problem with r329 :-( |
| 08:48.39 | RP | hrw|work: That mail looked fine to me |
| 08:48.56 | hrw|work | _law_: clear cache? I use r329 for oz354x and no problems |
| 08:49.26 | _law_ | hrw|work, there is now tmp dir yet |
| 08:49.45 | CoreDump|home | I use 359, works fine |
| 08:50.12 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: just read it. I am not a friend of changin feed/ tho. Upgrades is fine IMO |
| 08:51.03 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: it is going to be really big |
| 08:51.12 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 08:51.25 | hrw|work | I have ~100 packages for upgrades |
| 08:51.56 | CoreDump|home | well, here's an idea. Drop the 3.5.4 feed after .2 is out. Upload a complete new .2 feed and symlink it into the 3.5.4 feed URL |
| 08:52.04 | hrw|work | btw - rm_work.bbclass sometimes fails ;( |
| 08:52.22 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: write to list |
| 08:52.32 | CoreDump|home | will do |
| 08:54.32 | CoreDump|home | man, NFS root is the best thing since sliced bread |
| 08:55.14 | hrw|work | wifi card for each Z is good thing too |
| 08:55.33 | hrw|work | need usb wifi for machine at work |
| 08:55.51 | _law_ | now it works (some missconfiguration in local.conf) |
| 08:56.05 | _law_ | now i?ll build oz3.5.4.1 for my husky |
| 08:57.16 | hrw|work | cheapest usb wifi is 91 pln |
| 08:57.18 | hrw|work | brb |
| 08:58.32 | CoreDump|home | well, I'm still getting the udec usb error msg on boot. I thought that was fixed? |
| 08:58.55 | CoreDump|home | sigh |
| 08:59.13 | CoreDump|home | the locale-base postinst crap is still there |
| 09:00.54 | CoreDump|home | still there and _hanging_ my boot grrrr |
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| 09:12.52 | CoreDump|home | hmmm |
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| 09:14.06 | CoreDump|home | there are still issues w/ DPI |
| 09:14.25 | CoreDump|home | font-size "7" is now readable but still to small |
| 09:14.43 | CoreDump|home | and, as XorA mentioned, the themes set a too small title font |
| 09:18.16 | CoreDump|home | i wonder what I did yesterday that I didn't see this |
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| 09:21.24 | ade|desk | is there a way to make the settings in local.conf stay no matter what a distro file says ? |
| 09:21.59 | CoreDump|home | if you overide an overide, it's gone ;) |
| 09:24.09 | ade|desk | what does the '?=' mean |
| 09:29.15 | CoreDump|home | set if previously unset |
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| 09:35.22 | ade|desk | does that override an '=' |
| 09:35.57 | hrw|work | no |
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| 09:42.21 | ade|desk | cool |
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| 10:16.58 | hrw|work | NOTE: package libsm-6.0.3-r1: task do_distribute_sources: started |
| 10:16.58 | hrw|work | NOTE: Licenses (['MIT-X']) are not all listed in SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES, skipping source distribution |
| 10:18.21 | RP | hrw|work: If I remember rightly, MIT-X says you cna do anything with it... |
| 10:18.34 | hrw|work | ipkg is terribly slow with oz 3.5.4 feeds |
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| 10:19.56 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 10:20.07 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 10:21.16 | RP | hi Bernardo |
| 10:21.29 | hrw|work | NOTE: package libxcursor-1.1.2-r2: task do_distribute_sources: started |
| 10:21.29 | hrw|work | NOTE: Licenses (['BSD-X']) are not all listed in SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES, skipping source distribution |
| 10:21.35 | RP | Bernardo: Did you have an SD card with an unrecognised SCR structure? |
| 10:22.12 | hrw|work | NOTE: package libgpg-error-1.0-r0: task do_distribute_sources: started |
| 10:22.12 | hrw|work | NOTE: Licenses (['GPL', 'LGPL', 'FDL']) are not all listed in SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES, skipping source distribution |
| 10:22.16 | hrw|work | hmm |
| 10:22.21 | ade|desk | RP: i d o |
| 10:22.37 | RP | ade|desk: Fancy trying a recent 2.6.16 kernel and see if it works? |
| 10:23.40 | ade|desk | will do as soon as i can get a build running |
| 10:24.43 | RP | ade|desk: The kernel and modules from http://sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/3.5.4.1-alpha2/ should work |
| 10:25.03 | ade|desk | ok that mmakes life easier |
| 10:26.25 | Bernardo | RP: let me check the dmesg from my akita |
| 10:27.27 | RP | Bernardo: If ade|desk can test, that's fine - I'd just like to know whether a patch I added helps or not... |
| 10:27.31 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I look for cheap 802.11 usb stick |
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| 10:28.42 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I have one that works if you have a powered usb hub - a cnet CWD 854 Rev. E |
| 10:29.38 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I will connect it to desktop pc so power is no problem |
| 10:29.40 | Bernardo | RP: mine seems to have no problem in 2.6.15 - the only output I have in dmesg after inserting it is "mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 SD 988160KiB" |
| 10:30.06 | Bernardo | hrw|work: then this one or another rt2570 based stick will serve you well |
| 10:30.14 | RP | Bernardo: ok, I think I must have been thinking of someone else, sorry :) |
| 10:30.23 | Bernardo | not as much range as a pcmcia card, but works very well with linux |
| 10:30.36 | Bernardo | RP: NP. Whatever I can do to help... |
| 10:30.41 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I need <10m ;) |
| 10:31.35 | Bernardo | I only had problems with this one when I was more than 30m away, and with at least three stone walls between it and the AP. |
| 10:32.08 | Bernardo | down in the patio, and I live on the first floor... +- 6 meters up, 25 straight line |
| 10:32.23 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I want to buy usb wifi stick to have wifi net at work - stick in desktop, cf in zaurus |
| 10:32.50 | Bernardo | then you'll be ok with this one. I've used it in that config |
| 10:33.19 | Bernardo | it even has too much range for that, I had a few guys here trying to connect to it... :) |
| 10:33.44 | Bernardo | now, back to ebay to try to find a replacement for this sandisk... :( |
| 10:34.45 | hrw|work | Pretec CF Wlan 2.5 card is nice |
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| 10:34.57 | hrw|work | linksys wcf12 is nice |
| 10:35.05 | hrw|work | dlink dcf-660w is bulky |
| 10:37.25 | Bernardo | seems like there's none to be found right now in ebay |
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| 10:42.28 | XorA | hrw|work: if I add INHERIT += "rm_work" to my local.conf I can no longer build anything, is that the right syntax? |
| 10:43.55 | hrw|work | XorA: rm_work is a bit faulty but workable - I'm building 3.5.4.1 with it |
| 10:54.29 | ade|desk | RP: sorry for maxing out sam |
| 10:54.44 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rbd06749d... 10/conf/licenses.conf: licenses.conf: added 'MIT-X BSD-X FDL Bitstream Vera' into list |
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| 10:58.01 | XorA | hrw|work: http://pastebin.com/643810 |
| 10:58.13 | XorA | hrw|work: bit faulty, Id say, very faulty |
| 10:58.49 | hrw|work | ok - it is not so usefull - patches welcome |
| 10:59.43 | hrw|work | I wrote it 19 months ago.. |
| 10:59.47 | hrw|work | http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/related/classes/rm_work.bbclass?nav=index.html|src/|src/classes |
| 11:00.25 | RP | ade|desk: Its ok, I'm not using that connection much atm so I'df not noticed :) |
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| 11:01.42 | do13_ | morning all |
| 11:02.01 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 11:02.09 | RP | hi Dirk |
| 11:02.13 | ade|desk | RP: i think the kernel is too big |
| 11:02.16 | do13_ | hi Marcin, Richard |
| 11:03.07 | RP | ade|desk: It wouldn't have built it if it were too big? |
| 11:04.05 | XorA | hrw|work: ok, I update bitbake, now it builds but doesnt rm the WORKDIR, I will investiage |
| 11:04.14 | RP | hrw|work: The last line of rm_work.bbclass should read addtask rm_work before do_build after do_package |
| 11:04.37 | ade|desk | RP: just going by bug #816 |
| 11:05.21 | hrw|work | RP: good to know |
| 11:05.45 | hrw|work | RP: does current way is wrong? |
| 11:06.04 | hrw|work | NOTE: package libpixman-0.1.6-r0: task do_distribute_sources: started |
| 11:06.04 | hrw|work | NOTE: Licenses (['X11']) are not all listed in SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES, skipping source distribution |
| 11:06.08 | hrw|work | heh.. another one |
| 11:12.11 | RP | hrw|work: I think it might confuse bitbake |
| 11:15.03 | hrw|work | thx |
| 11:15.47 | hrw|work | changed and started build |
| 11:20.00 | hrw|work | RP: can mail led show sd/mmc transfers? |
| 11:23.23 | hrw|work | Bernardo: ping |
| 11:23.33 | hrw|work | or even RP: ping |
| 11:24.04 | hrw|work | RP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777 - reversed Calendar/Adress on cxx00 - is it kernel bug? |
| 11:25.02 | hrw|work | RP: on c7x0 Calendar is 59, Address is 60 - keymap-2.6.map is same for c7x0/akita/spitz in this place so it looks like kernel reverse them.. we can fix it in keymap-2.6.map anyway |
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| 11:25.56 | RP | hrw|work: It could well be a kernel bug |
| 11:26.20 | RP | If it is in the kernel, I'd prefer to fix the kernel rather than the keymaps |
| 11:27.11 | RP | hrw|work: If we add an mmc activity led trigger, it can show up on the mail light. Nobody's written such a trigger yet |
| 11:27.31 | hrw|work | RP: is it hard to write? |
| 11:28.00 | RP | hrw|work: The trigger code is easy. Finding the right place to put it isn't |
| 11:28.07 | RP | Although I've not looked |
| 11:29.28 | hrw|work | ok |
| 11:30.46 | hrw|work | I will move to sd soon so it would be nice to have it |
| 11:32.32 | RP | hrw|work: I'll keep it in mind |
| 11:32.37 | RP | We need more kernel hackers |
| 11:33.44 | hrw|work | NOTE: package qte-2.3.10-r32: task do_patch: completed |
| 11:33.46 | hrw|work | uf |
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| 11:42.54 | hrw|work | Bernardo: you are running opie? |
| 11:43.13 | Bernardo | hrw|work: going to lunch now, is it about the reversed keys? |
| 11:43.21 | hrw|work | yes |
| 11:43.24 | Bernardo | hrw|work: yes, I'm running opie |
| 11:43.53 | Bernardo | I'm pretty sure it's kernel related |
| 11:43.56 | hrw|work | Bernardo: ipkg install http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4x-experimental/libqte/libqte2_2.3.10-r32_akita.ipk |
| 11:44.05 | hrw|work | Bernardo: its fixed |
| 11:44.09 | Bernardo | ok, will do that after lunch |
| 11:44.11 | hrw|work | thx |
| 11:44.34 | Bernardo | is that in 354x already? |
| 11:44.40 | hrw|work | not yet |
| 11:44.44 | Bernardo | have to run now, wife's calling |
| 11:44.49 | hrw|work | I want it tested |
| 11:44.51 | hrw|work | cu |
| 11:44.55 | hrw|work | greet wife ;) |
| 11:45.04 | Bernardo | I will, thanks |
| 11:46.16 | hrw|work | RP: you are added into openzaurus project members at berlios |
| 11:46.22 | hrw|work | mickey|zzZZzz: you are added into openzaurus project members at berlios |
| 11:47.35 | RP | hrw|work: TYVM :) |
| 11:47.40 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 11:47.48 | RP | hrw|work: I can confirm those keys are a kernel bug |
| 11:48.45 | hrw|work | ok |
| 11:49.08 | RP | hrw|work: Its an easy fix, if a bit annoying to have to push into mainline |
| 11:58.23 | XorA | hrw|work: apologies, rm_work is slightly different than I though, it is working here now |
| 11:58.50 | hrw|work | np |
| 11:58.59 | hrw|work | it fails sometimes anyway |
| 11:59.09 | XorA | hrw|work: why does it called both before do_build and do_package? |
| 11:59.51 | hrw|work | dont remember now |
| 12:08.22 | hrw|work | ~timriker |
| 12:08.23 | ibot | somebody said timriker was my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 12:09.03 | hrw|work | do I remember correctly - he host bugs.oe? |
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| 12:27.34 | hrw|work | ~lart zaurusd |
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| 12:40.09 | hrw|work | what would you tell for new variable: USE_FEED_FOR_IMAGES? |
| 12:45.18 | RP | hrw|work: treke (aka Greg GIlbert) hosts bugs.oe |
| 12:45.30 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.com/643930 - my version of koen patch for using feeds as source of packages for images |
| 12:45.42 | hrw|work | controlled by USE_FEED_FOR_IMAGES = 1/0 |
| 12:45.44 | hrw|work | thx |
| 12:45.46 | hrw|work | ~treke |
| 12:45.51 | ibot | treke is probably Greg Gilbert <greg@treke.net>, or a goon, or a goon with no life, and no neck |
| 12:47.10 | hrw|work | ~seen treke |
| 12:47.18 | ibot | treke <n=ggilbert@69-175-35-85.ventca.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 86d 12h 58m 21s ago, saying: 'http://zaurus.catstar.org/jmqt/index_e.html'. |
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| 12:47.18 | hrw|work | re Bernardo |
| 12:48.11 | hrw|work | RP: what do you think about that patch? |
| 12:50.40 | RP | hrw|work: I think we can make a cleaner version where this gets done in a seperate .bbclass |
| 12:51.00 | hrw|work | I'll post it as an enhancment in bugtracker |
| 12:51.45 | RP | hrw|work: ok, its certainly worth doing something with, just a question of the exact implementation :) |
| 12:51.56 | hrw|work | yep |
| 12:52.45 | Bernardo | re hrw|work |
| 12:53.04 | Bernardo | hrw|work: do you want me to test that qte now? |
| 12:53.18 | hrw|work | yes |
| 12:53.27 | Bernardo | ok |
| 12:54.58 | hrw|work | thx |
| 13:04.53 | Bernardo | hrw|work: the keys are still switched |
| 13:05.51 | Bernardo | when I check the buttons app, everything is set as it should, callendar launching ko/pi, address launching ka/pi, but pressing callendar I get ka/pi |
| 13:06.18 | Bernardo | and pressing address I get ko/pi |
| 13:06.35 | hrw|work | Bernardo: that thing is not libqte but kernel |
| 13:07.04 | hrw|work | Bernardo: does cursors are ok now? (was rotated with r31) |
| 13:07.57 | hrw|work | ~lart sd for being so slow... |
| 13:08.29 | hrw|work | kingston 512M sd in sync mode is like modem 9600 |
| 13:09.17 | _law_ | hrw|work, modell? |
| 13:09.45 | hrw|work | normal lowspeed |
| 13:10.11 | Bernardo | yes, cursors work fine |
| 13:10.22 | hrw|work | Bernardo: great |
| 13:10.26 | Bernardo | I hadn't tested r31, I had r27 right now |
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| 13:13.33 | hrw|work | ok - I know that r31 had cursors problem |
| 13:14.41 | Bernardo | r27 didn't, I think. I didn't do much testing on them |
| 13:14.44 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:16.13 | hrw|work | hi chouimat |
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| 13:17.01 | chouimat | Today quote:The Bible teaches to love your neighbor, and Kama-Sutra explains how. |
| 13:18.04 | Cobelius | I have the following problem. The installation of a software is made by the command "make install". The Software is installed in /usr/realtime. How can I say that somthing like a faked root is used while installation to make the package? |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r03036e36... 10/packages/qte/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | Thanks to the ROAD GmbH we now have a bugfixed QtE kernel-keymap.patch |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | Bugfixes: |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | - Handle keys > 127 (7Bit) |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | - Workaround broken keymaps |
| 13:18.18 | CIA-4 | - Fix Autorepeat |
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| 13:18.20 | CIA-4 | - plenty of other fixes |
| 13:18.59 | hrw|work | Cobelius: fix its makefile how to use DESTDIR |
| 13:19.29 | Cobelius | can I write ${D} in it? |
| 13:19.34 | Cobelius | Or in the .config File? |
| 13:19.45 | Cobelius | Is this variable also availabe in make? |
| 13:20.02 | hrw|work | let makefile use DESTDIR and you will tell that DESTDIR=${D} |
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| 13:50.05 | Cobelius | how was the formar for .bb filename name_version_revision or name_version-revision? |
| 13:50.25 | hrw|work | NAME_VER.bb |
| 13:50.38 | hrw|work | revision in PR inside of bb |
| 13:50.51 | Cobelius | okay |
| 13:50.52 | Cobelius | thank you |
| 13:50.54 | hrw|work | np |
| 13:57.38 | hrw|work | RP: pcmciautils are not enabled for alpha2 yet |
| 13:58.12 | RP | hrw|work: I thought I pushed that change? |
| 13:59.55 | hrw|work | pushed but it looks like not working ;( |
| 14:01.45 | hrw|work | hmm.. will look more into it |
| 14:02.31 | hrw|work | false alarm.. something gave me pcmcia-cs also building... |
| 14:03.07 | hrw|work | sory |
| 14:05.15 | RP | np :) |
| 14:05.34 | Cobelius | Is there a variable existing which contains the path to the kernel header files? |
| 14:07.28 | hrw|work | STAGING_KERNEL_DIR iirc |
| 14:08.01 | hrw|work | hmm... kernel-modules depend on all modules and is installed ;( |
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| 14:51.26 | hrw|work | 50K left for kernel size on c7x0 |
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| 15:08.46 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 15:13.39 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date |
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| 15:38.40 | tux1800 | I have a question about mtd |
| 15:40.55 | tux1800 | i have /dev/mtdblock? but no /dev/mtd?, and i have kernel message complaining about ... |
| 15:41.04 | tux1800 | jffs2_scan_eraseblock(): Magic bitmask 0x1985 not found at 0x00000400: 0x8010 instead |
| 15:41.09 | jnc | hmm |
| 15:41.11 | jnc | not sure |
| 15:46.49 | CosmicPenguin | tux1800: thats on the travis still? |
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| 16:00.32 | Genesis | bonne soiree |
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| 16:04.14 | HopsNBarley | hey everybody. I'm hitting a "ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libperl5" when building openslug. this with a fresh everything/start from scratch this am. Any Ideas? |
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| 16:09.42 | _law_ | hi all |
| 16:11.43 | RP | HopsNBarley: Current bitbake head looks totally broken to me - try a slightly older version of bitbake |
| 16:15.08 | HopsNBarley | thanks RP. |
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| 17:21.20 | mickeyl | yo |
| 17:28.32 | HopsNBarley | hey mickeyl |
| 17:28.47 | HopsNBarley | how goes the dissertation? |
| 17:30.03 | mickeyl | pretty tough atm. can't really focus on continuing the chapter that describes my architecture.... working on the evaluation chapter instead :) |
| 17:30.24 | HopsNBarley | what's your topic/title? |
| 17:30.36 | mickeyl | adaptive middleware for mobile distributed systems |
| 17:31.21 | mickeyl | i have developed a component based middleware architecture that reconfigures its building blocks at runtime based on which services / nonfunctional services the applications need |
| 17:32.09 | Crofton | why not just use CORBA? |
| 17:32.16 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:32.16 | HopsNBarley | sounds interesting. current. marketable (-; you planning on work or academia? |
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| 17:33.10 | mickeyl | CORBA is bound to the oo-rpc client/server concept. my middleware can do that, but can also can do peer2peer abstractions + can do tuple space, messaged passing, etc. what you need. |
| 17:33.24 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 17:34.12 | Crofton | send me a copy when you are done? |
| 17:34.14 | mickeyl | HopsNBarley: i'm not sure yet. i guess i'd like to be a uni professor, but i don't like to continue doing the same research style i did the last 5 years. i want something else for a while |
| 17:34.31 | mickeyl | Crofton: sure |
| 17:36.45 | HopsNBarley | i'd thought about the prof. route, but then in grad school i saw how much time the profs. spend getting ready to do work (grants, reviews, etc) rather than doing work. that's in the US at least. |
| 17:38.04 | HopsNBarley | mickeyl, did you design a language to describe this, or operating at a slightly lower level? |
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| 17:39.16 | pH5 | good evening |
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| 17:45.26 | pb__ | mickeyl, pH5: yo |
| 17:45.31 | pb__ | reenoo: yo |
| 17:46.17 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:46.20 | reenoo | yo pb__ |
| 17:48.29 | CIA-4 | 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r5945a66a... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:48.29 | CIA-4 | asterisk: updated download path, added PR |
| 17:48.29 | CIA-4 | slugos-packages.conf: added asterisk to package list |
| 17:52.37 | mickeyl | HopsNBarley: i settled on describing the architecture using uml2 static and dynamic views. it's not really good, but it's the most commonly accepted description language. the middleware itself is written in Python (like bitbake :) - that helped to make all bindings dynamic etc. |
| 17:53.57 | mickeyl | HopsNBarley: yeah, that's true, but it wouldn't be a major factor for me. in germany the standard route is to submit a Habilitation thesis before you can apply for a university prof. this would mean 3 to 5 more years doing the same research & publish style - and I'm not sure whether i want that |
| 17:54.21 | mickeyl | hi pb, REdOG |
| 17:54.23 | mickeyl | hi reenoo |
| 17:54.31 | reenoo | moin mickeyl |
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| 18:11.43 | TheMasterMind1 | hrm |
| 18:12.12 | TheMasterMind1 | would be nice if module deps were listed as ipk dependencies |
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| 18:18.05 | TheMasterMind1 | reenoo: hey do you maintain the java packages? |
| 18:19.54 | reenoo | TheMasterMind1: I do at times |
| 18:24.16 | TheMasterMind1 | reenoo|afk: i want to make non-gui versions of classpath and kaffe.. would ${PN}-console as the package name make sense? |
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| 18:54.19 | TheMasterMind1 | 1.4M ./usr/lib/ipkg/info |
| 18:54.19 | TheMasterMind1 | 592K ./usr/lib/ipkg/alternatives |
| 18:54.20 | TheMasterMind1 | sheesh |
| 18:55.46 | TheMasterMind1 | thats too much overhead for a bootstrap image |
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| 19:12.22 | pb_ | that does sound like a lot |
| 19:14.21 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the price you pay for ipkg |
| 19:14.59 | pb_ | well, apparently, but 592k of alternatives? |
| 19:15.28 | pb_ | it's hard to imagine how you could end up with that much data unless every file on the system was an alternative. |
| 19:15.29 | CosmicPenguin | true - that is a little high |
| 19:15.49 | CosmicPenguin | Well, isn't everything in busybox an alternative? |
| 19:16.13 | CosmicPenguin | s/isn't everything/doesn't everything/ |
| 19:16.16 | pb_ | more or less, but how many executables does busybox provide? it's not _that_ many. |
| 19:16.17 | CosmicPenguin | s/an/have an/ |
| 19:17.10 | pb_ | and 1.4MB for info also seems a bit much. the control file should only be a few hundred bytes for each package, plus maybe twice as much again in maintainer scripts. |
| 19:17.38 | pb_ | oh well |
| 19:17.53 | pb_ | I guess this is why we have jffs2 compression :-} |
| 19:20.23 | pH5 | If I do du -sh in my rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info dir, it says 3.7M. but 'cat * | wc -c' gives about 304k. For alternatives this is 608k vs. 4674 bytes. |
| 19:21.21 | CosmicPenguin | pH5: yeah, thats what I get |
| 19:21.47 | CosmicPenguin | I have 146 alternatives in my directory |
| 19:22.24 | CosmicPenguin | biggest one is 47 bytes, but du shows 4k per file |
| 19:23.05 | CosmicPenguin | But almost all of them are busybox related |
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| 19:35.37 | zecke | emte: hey |
| 19:35.59 | zecke | emte: +10 devices for familiar? Opie can live quite happily without glibc localisation |
| 19:36.28 | zecke | applying the 'timezone' argument... well it is late |
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| 20:08.55 | RP | zecke: bitbake head is rather broken but i guess you know this? |
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| 20:34.47 | zecke | RP: no |
| 20:35.10 | zecke | RP: no, I don't know that. I suspected it though |
| 20:37.07 | RP | zecke: Earlier on I tried building something so it parsed the cache, tried to build and failed. I reran bitbake on the same package and it told me nothing provided it |
| 20:37.39 | RP | zecke: In other words the cache is ending up corrupt :-/ |
| 20:39.28 | JustinP | mickeyl: thanks, that seemed to work.....of course now I get a segfault.... |
| 20:40.45 | zecke | RP: oh, I think hrw and koen reported that 'years' ago |
| 20:41.25 | zecke | RP: I have a night shift ahead, we might be able to look into it on the weekend |
| 20:41.37 | RP | zecke: Ah, I thought it was a result of the cach changes :-/ |
| 20:42.03 | RP | zecke: np. I just wondered if it was known about. If it is, fine :} |
| 20:46.56 | zecke | RP: OT: Do you work on Monahan Linux support? |
| 20:47.49 | RP | zecke: no, I'm not even sure what that is :) |
| 20:48.14 | zecke | RP: the new Intel PXA |
| 20:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | What, are they naming their new processors after congressmen now? |
| 20:50.47 | RP | zecke: Ah, I just know it by its number :). Sadly I have nothing to do with it |
| 20:51.08 | zecke | RP: by serial number? |
| 20:51.18 | zecke | Serial Numbers from x-y are... |
| 20:51.48 | RP | zecke: pxa25x, pxa26x, pxa27x etc. I'm not mad enough to memorise serial numbers :) |
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| 20:59.18 | zecke | RP: do you have an idea how bitbake remembers this error? |
| 20:59.38 | zecke | RP: we have an already failed list, but we will never save it |
| 20:59.39 | zecke | RP: do we 'destroy' the cached file in case of error? |
| 21:00.21 | RP | zecke: I'm afraid I wasn't able to look into it. We must cache something though :-/ |
| 21:02.12 | zecke | "SDK Light is provided in binary format and includes: |
| 21:02.13 | zecke | pre-built binaries for i386 and ARM" |
| 21:02.14 | zecke | lol |
| 21:02.22 | zecke | TT smells like using EABI already |
| 21:29.53 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 21:30.00 | RP | hi CoreDump|home |
| 21:30.01 | JustinP | 'lo CoreDump|home |
| 21:30.15 | JustinP | evas is staging now....but I get a segfault from edje.... |
| 21:30.30 | JustinP | if anyone else would care to try building entrance I'd be grateful |
| 21:30.57 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: .dev or .1? |
| 21:31.24 | JustinP | 1? |
| 21:31.26 | JustinP | .dev |
| 21:31.34 | JustinP | oz354* still builds fine |
| 21:31.47 | JustinP | changes to evas to make it modular are causing issues in dev right now... |
| 21:31.54 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: I'll try to build .dev then overnight and let you know |
| 21:32.53 | CoreDump|home | e-image-core will do right? |
| 21:33.30 | JustinP | yep, that wold be great |
| 21:33.40 | JustinP | make sure to update, mickeyl fixed the staging issue with evas for me |
| 21:33.58 | CoreDump|home | will do |
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| 22:56.34 | cromain | Hi ! Please, can anyone tell me how to set the cross-compiler to OE so that 'bitbake a_package' use it ? |
| 22:56.54 | zecke | cromain: hi, using ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 22:57.01 | cromain | I'm a bit confused: in the Wiki, there are instruction using kernel 2.4 and gcc2.95 |
| 22:57.01 | zecke | cromain: and putting your compiler into the path? |
| 22:57.20 | zecke | cromain: right, this is special for kernel compile |
| 22:57.26 | zecke | cromain: but it is very similiar |
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| 22:58.11 | cromain | zecke: so ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-4.1" in my case |
| 22:58.24 | zecke | cromain: no ;) |
| 22:58.41 | zecke | cromain: (we lack documentation and would be glad if one could help us to improve it) |
| 22:58.52 | cromain | zecke: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "/the/path/to/my_compilo" ? :-) |
| 22:59.01 | zecke | cromain: base.bbclass adds 'DEPENDS' for libc and gcc |
| 22:59.13 | zecke | cromain: depending on your TARGET_ARCH and OS |
| 22:59.18 | cromain | zecke: yes, I'll do as soon as I'll succeed ! |
| 22:59.33 | zecke | cromain: you can do ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-libc" |
| 22:59.47 | zecke | cromain: and ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/arm-linux-gcc" |
| 22:59.59 | zecke | cromain: then just make sure you have a arm-linux-gcc binary in your path |
| 23:00.51 | cromain | zecke: Ok, I have armv5te-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc, so does ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/armv5te-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc" will do the trick ? |
| 23:01.07 | zecke | cromain: no ;) |
| 23:01.13 | zecke | cromain: open base.bbclass |
| 23:01.15 | cromain | ok should I select virtual/a_package_that_exit_some_where ? |
| 23:01.22 | cromain | um ok, thanks |
| 23:01.25 | cromain | :) |
| 23:01.36 | zecke | cromain: 'virtual' does not exist, as the names says |
| 23:02.36 | zecke | cromain: we see a line "deps += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc virtual/libc" |
| 23:02.54 | zecke | cromain: so as you have your toolchain - ASSUME_PROVIDED virtual/libc |
| 23:03.01 | zecke | cromain: and then the right compiler (gcc) |
| 23:03.14 | zecke | cromain: also look at bitbake.conf to see how TARGET_PREFIX is set |
| 23:07.17 | cromain | zecke: um... I don't have TARGET_PREFIX in my bitbake.conf |
| 23:07.34 | cromain | zecke: I use the release 329 of bitbake. |
| 23:08.27 | zecke | cromain: you have one, look into the one in the OE directory |
| 23:08.38 | cromain | zecke: ok, I found |
| 23:08.54 | cromain | zecke: I looked into the bitbake one |
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| 23:16.59 | cromain | zecke: ok I set TARGET_ARCH = "armv5te-softfloat" and TARGET_OS = "linux-gnu" in my org.openembedded.oz354fam083/conf/bitbake.conf |
| 23:18.08 | zecke | cromain: well, you risk a lot of patches not being applied |
| 23:18.38 | cromain | zecke: why ? and what sort of patches ? |
| 23:19.04 | zecke | cromain: OE ones for cross compilation |
| 23:19.23 | zecke | cromain: we apply certain fixes when building for arm (not armv5te-softfloat) |
| 23:20.11 | cromain | zecke: I see. Do you already tested with armv5te ? |
| 23:20.32 | zecke | cromain: sure, we just 'tune' for it though |
| 23:20.38 | cromain | zecke: I can make armv5te a try, and simply using arm if it fails |
| 23:20.41 | zecke | cromain: check conf/machine/* for armv5te |
| 23:20.54 | zecke | cromain: it will fail! and it should fail |
| 23:21.11 | zecke | cromain: and we have no armv5te-softfloat in sites |
| 23:22.50 | zecke | cromain: ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/libc virtual/arm-linux-gcc" |
| 23:23.06 | zecke | cromain: maybe set TARGET_FPU = "soft" (shouldn't be necessary) |
| 23:23.24 | zecke | cromain: make sure arm-linux-gcc is in the path |
| 23:23.27 | cromain | zecke: ok, so should I rebuild and use an arm-softfloat-linux-gnu toolchain ? Or can I still use my armv5te-softfloat-linux-gnu toolchain ? |
| 23:23.29 | zecke | cromain: tune for armv5te |
| 23:23.49 | zecke | cromain: you can still use your one, just rename it ;) |
| 23:24.07 | cromain | zecke: :) |
| 23:26.21 | cromain | zecke: should I specify 'softfloat' in the ASSUME_PROVIDED: virtual/arm-softfloat-linux-gnu-gcc ? or simply virtual/arm-linux-gcc ? |
| 23:27.40 | zecke | cromain: well, no magic involved. Every package has virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc as DEPENDency |
| 23:27.51 | zecke | cromain: ASSUME_PROVIDED not more, not less -> arm-linux-gcc |
| 23:28.32 | cromain | zecke: ok, thanks |
| 23:31.57 | cromain | zecke: i need some sleep.. thank you very much for your help ! I think I'll have more time this week-end to try OE, eventually with armv5te if arm work without problem :) |
| 23:32.17 | zecke | cromain: wait a second |
| 23:32.28 | cromain | zecke: and of course update the Wiki :) |
| 23:32.30 | zecke | cromain: TARGET_ARCH is arm, x86, mips, sh3... |
| 23:32.45 | zecke | cromain: for what you tune, or what floating point you use is a different story |
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| 23:33.22 | cromain | zecke: ah Ok |
| 23:33.26 | zecke | cromain: we regulary build for Xscale (all sorts) |
| 23:33.40 | cromain | zecke: where do I should put softfloat then ? |
| 23:33.49 | zecke | TARGET_FPU = "soft" |
| 23:33.58 | zecke | but as you use a different toolchain it doesn't matter |
| 23:34.18 | cromain | zecke :ok, already set apparently (i use "collie") |
| 23:35.10 | zecke | good nite |
| 23:35.13 | cromain | zecke: thanks again for your help :), bye |
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