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| 00:14.19 | RP | Zero_Chaos: You might want to consider testing OZ 3.5.4.1 on akita to see how the 2.6 kernel stacks up |
| 00:14.47 | Zero_Chaos | RP: I will do that, as soon as I have a new job, sell my car, and buy an akita. |
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| 00:19.44 | RP | Zero_Chaos: Ah, sorry, I thought you were asking questions for a different reason |
| 00:20.17 | Zero_Chaos | RP: I'm asking questions because I have a collie, and I want something with more kick. :-) |
| 00:20.36 | zecke | RP: I don't get where the bottle neck is in python |
| 00:20.48 | zecke | RP: it is not what I would have expected :} |
| 00:27.40 | RP | zecke: I can't claim to have looked into it in detail |
| 00:28.10 | RP | zecke: I do sometimes wonder if the cache works properly though as parsing with the cache never seems as fast as it could be... |
| 00:28.50 | CIA-1 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb08f6373... 10/packages/opensync/syncml-client_0.1.bb: syncml-client: Add version 0.1. |
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| 00:33.31 | zecke | hmm |
| 00:33.31 | zecke | cya |
| 00:33.38 | zecke | RP: we could cache a lot more |
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| 00:34.07 | RP | zecke: making the parser faster as a whole would still be the better goal IMO :) |
| 00:34.37 | zecke | RP: I'm currently not too sure that the parser is the bottle neck |
| 00:34.47 | zecke | I will look into the profile tomorrow... |
| 00:34.52 | zecke | it is still loading |
| 00:34.54 | zecke | cya |
| 00:36.25 | Zero_Chaos | the monotone repository is like a darn hydra |
| 00:36.26 | Zero_Chaos | monotone: multiple update candidates: |
| 00:36.26 | Zero_Chaos | monotone: 61685483d439c8fa8ae72f891a69b446c143d5a7 mickeyl@openembedded.org 2006-03-21T00:16:38 |
| 00:36.29 | Zero_Chaos | monotone: b08f63739476538bba8a26df42863f10c88eb335 florian@openembedded.org 2006-03-21T00:23:54 |
| 00:36.37 | Zero_Chaos | cut off a head, and a new one grows back |
| 00:39.13 | JustinP | heh |
| 00:39.20 | Zero_Chaos | njs: if you think of one, you won't be able to compare it to monotone.... so what's the point :-) |
| 00:39.26 | JustinP | Zero_Chaos: just choose one for now |
| 00:39.37 | JustinP | Zero_Chaos: monotone/hydra isn't evil |
| 00:39.54 | Zero_Chaos | JustinP: I'll do nothing of the sort, I'll politely wait for it to be fixed. |
| 00:41.01 | Zero_Chaos | JustinP: I know, I am not a developer, I only use monotone to pull updates, if you all like it, whatever, none of my concern. I will get me another one of those people that mentions multiple heads :-) unless you all prefer that I don't report. |
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| 00:41.40 | njs | Zero_Chaos: "just choose one" = "acting exactly like CVS and every other system out there", so I'm not sure why it's such a thing to be avoided :-) |
| 00:42.35 | Zero_Chaos | njs: it's all good in the hood :-) I don't really care, doesn't bother me. It's not my project, I just wait a bit and pull again. I just like to mention it when I see it. |
| 00:44.53 | JustinP | it *should* be fixed, someone just needs to do it.... |
| 00:46.26 | RP | I'm pulling atm and have a commit to make shortly... |
| 00:46.50 | njs | Zero_Chaos: sure. just saying, there's really no reason to bother waiting, if you just pick one randomly you'll get exactly the same results as you do on every other project that doesn't use monotone. so might as well, instead of wasting your time waiting :-) |
| 00:49.15 | njs | neither does CVS, it just picks the one with the earlier date :-) it just hides the other one from even being visible, so you don't realize that you're making an arbitrary choice. |
| 00:50.53 | RP | merged btw... |
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| 01:10.12 | JustinP | Zero_Chaos: monotone up -rREVID |
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| 01:21.04 | RP | 'night all |
| 01:21.25 | NAbyss | Seeyas |
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| 03:25.22 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 03:45.08 | jnc | mickey|zzZZzz: i may buy a c3200 |
| 03:46.39 | jnc | it's kind of expensive though |
| 03:47.38 | JustinP | 32? |
| 03:49.16 | jnc | yeah |
| 03:49.26 | jnc | $700usd |
| 03:49.45 | jnc | that's about $400 more than i want to spend |
| 03:51.33 | NAbyss | jnc: What's new with the 3200? |
| 03:51.47 | jnc | nothing interesting |
| 03:51.55 | jnc | 6gb hard drive |
| 03:52.15 | jnc | at that rate, i would pop for the SL-6000w |
| 03:52.21 | jnc | with bt and wifi |
| 03:52.29 | JustinP | if you can find one |
| 03:52.40 | jnc | they are easy to buy now |
| 03:59.06 | jnc | http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/product.php?productid=148&cat=2&page=1 |
| 04:01.08 | JustinP | $850.99 |
| 04:01.37 | JustinP | I wouldn't mind one, but geez....that's not worth is when you could have a bigger keyboard, protected screen, and a large HD.. |
| 04:01.42 | JustinP | for less |
| 04:03.25 | jnc | yeah |
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| 06:57.40 | grma | Good Morning! |
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| 07:36.49 | hrw | hi |
| 07:36.53 | hrw | ~seen hrw|gone |
| 07:36.59 | ibot | hrw|gone <n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 1d 13h 39m 54s ago, saying: 'ok. now I'm gone'. |
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| 08:09.08 | Genesis | yo |
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| 08:28.33 | Mardy | hi all |
| 08:29.13 | Genesis | hi mardy |
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| 08:44.08 | hrw | hi |
| 08:46.52 | RP | oyz |
| 08:46.58 | RP | morning all even :) |
| 08:50.39 | XorA | morning |
| 08:50.52 | RP | morning XorA |
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| 08:51.02 | XorA | RP: that me kernel ready? |
| 08:51.58 | RP | XorA: I pushed a 2.6.16 kernel. Sound on the c7x0 on the c7x0 is still suffering problems. I think Liam said you could add #define DEBUG 1 to a couple of the ASoC files to get more interesting debug info which may be an idea |
| 08:52.39 | RP | XorA: Getting the sound on c7x0 is probably a blocking issue for 3.5.4.1 |
| 08:53.03 | RP | Sound is there but key taps aren't working for example (they work on spitz) |
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| 09:03.25 | XorA | RP: ok, I should try that tomorrow, I need my Z working tonight so I am loath to flash |
| 09:03.49 | XorA | RP: good thing is liam is only 10 mins down road from me so we can get a c7x0 to him for testing |
| 09:06.56 | hrw|work | Collie touchscreen now works: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/17784.html |
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| 09:08.54 | do13 | morning all |
| 09:09.28 | hrw|work | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4392038828.html |
| 09:09.31 | hrw|work | YES! |
| 09:10.11 | hrw|work | OZ 3.5.4 on linuxdevices |
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| 09:14.05 | hrw|work | JustinP: ping |
| 09:14.07 | hrw|work | hi Dirk |
| 09:14.33 | do13 | hi Marcin |
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| 09:15.42 | hrw|work | JustinP: sent you cc: of e17 problem |
| 09:15.44 | hrw|work | hi Zero_Chaos |
| 09:15.47 | hrw|work | zecke: hi |
| 09:17.10 | zecke | hey |
| 09:17.13 | zecke | do13: hey |
| 09:17.20 | do13 | hey zecke |
| 09:17.35 | zecke | do13: have you seen the Keyboard 'Bug' on oe@hh.org |
| 09:17.49 | zecke | do13: for a user pressing Fn - Num makes the keyboard unusable in Opie |
| 09:17.50 | RP | XorA: np. I might also try and look into the sound problem at some point - just a question of time |
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| 09:18.06 | RP | hrw|work: Good news about the touchscreen - Pavel said he was going to look at it |
| 09:18.11 | zecke | do13: I suspect it to be a bug in my QtE keyboard driver, if I send you patch could you try compiling a package? |
| 09:18.20 | do13 | zecke: I read the mail, but haven't checked this |
| 09:18.27 | zecke | RP: hrw|work : who is Pavel talking with? |
| 09:18.37 | hrw|work | zecke: Pavel Machek - collie 2.6 hacker |
| 09:18.38 | zecke | RP: hrw|work : his tslib 'issue' would have been solved withins econds |
| 09:19.00 | do13 | zecke: np. I can test this |
| 09:19.18 | zecke | do13: Do you know if Fn+Num produce > 7Bit keycodes? |
| 09:19.37 | do13 | zecke: I don't know |
| 09:19.52 | XorA | RP: out of interest, will 2.6.16 run EABI? |
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| 09:20.45 | RP | XorA: Its not enabled in the defconfig but otherwise, it should |
| 09:21.12 | RP | zecke: I don't know. We could have told him this but he likes to do things his own way - we had to tell him about tslib... |
| 09:21.31 | XorA | now does enabling EABI mean you can only boot an EABI image, or will it boot both? |
| 09:21.43 | RP | In theory, both... |
| 09:22.07 | XorA | ok, I can altboot angstrom then, I am happy |
| 09:22.51 | XorA | ~fishslap me |
| 09:22.53 | ibot | ACTION slaps xora up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 09:23.24 | hrw|work | zecke: basically sometimes Pavel looks lost when it comes to Z |
| 09:23.54 | hrw|work | I have to resolder 9pin -> 25pin and test own serial cable |
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| 09:27.02 | do13 | zecke: concerning libqte-mt: Do you see problems with a static version? |
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| 09:29.21 | XorA | RP: http://pastebin.com/613981 |
| 09:30.50 | RP | XorA: Out of diskspace? |
| 09:31.10 | XorA | RP: no, maybe my ext3 is dieing again :-( |
| 09:31.21 | XorA | RP: Ill force a fsck next boot |
| 09:31.30 | RP | XorA: Both c7x0 and spitz compiled fine for me :-/ |
| 09:31.40 | hrw|work | ~lart orbit2-native for building in eons... |
| 09:31.57 | XorA | RP: is likely its my machine then |
| 09:33.44 | RP | XorA: Try ust rerunning the build |
| 09:34.05 | XorA | RP: am doing that now |
| 09:34.25 | hrw|work | hm.. I will flash 3.5.4.1/c7x0 |
| 09:36.29 | XorA | RP: built this time, defineately my machine |
| 09:36.33 | XorA | crappin amd64 |
| 09:41.41 | zecke | do13: No, I just imagine a big fat dragon :) |
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| 09:52.52 | Bernardo | Good Morning |
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| 09:53.02 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:54.44 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo ade |
| 09:55.56 | zecke | pb__: master? |
| 09:57.59 | zecke | pb__: how can I make objdump, disassemble code that I can simply input to gas? |
| 10:01.23 | CIA-1 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r17c16ff5... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen: install correct binary |
| 10:01.37 | CIA-1 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r50c22362... 10/packages/meta/ (bootstrap-image.bb gpe-image.bb opie-image.bb): fixed feed info in images: bootstrap/gpe/opie |
| 10:02.24 | pb__ | zecke: good morning |
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| 10:02.49 | pb__ | zecke: you mean you want objdump to create a source file that you can feed back into gas? I don't think it can do that on its own; you'd need to write a small script to massage the output. |
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| 10:03.27 | zecke | pb__: hmm :( |
| 10:04.18 | zecke | pb__: do you have a such a script? :} |
| 10:04.22 | zecke | *lame* |
| 10:04.40 | pb__ | heh. sorry, no |
| 10:04.53 | zecke | pb__: don't you feel like writing one? |
| 10:04.59 | zecke | I guess you don't |
| 10:10.54 | pb__ | regrettably not |
| 10:11.25 | pb__ | maybe you can convince someone else in this channel to write one for you. :-} |
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| 10:16.30 | njs | zecke: sure you can't get away with just munging the original file with objcopy or something? *random shot in dark* |
| 10:17.02 | zecke | njs: never used objcopy |
| 10:17.14 | zecke | njs: I need to change the numbers for a mov and add :} |
| 10:18.40 | hrw|work | zecke: use xxd and vi |
| 10:19.34 | XorA | RP: one of my sound problems is fixed in 2.6.16 |
| 10:20.05 | obergix[work] | morning |
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| 10:20.31 | hrw|work | hi obergix |
| 10:21.43 | njs | zecke: ah, that's a little different. no useful hints, sorry. |
| 10:21.51 | XorA | RP: alsa 2.6.16 defconfig turns off iptables |
| 10:22.00 | XorA | s/alsa/also/ |
| 10:22.45 | njs | well, I know you could do it by writing some linker/binutils hack, but probably it would be easier to just memorize the architecture manual and use a hex editor. |
| 10:23.48 | hrw|work | njs: those 8bit times when people was hacking games/apps with disc monitors and hex editors.. |
| 10:23.48 | pb__ | zecke: oh right. if that's all you want to do, yeah, use xemacs in hexl-mode |
| 10:28.16 | ade|desk | ~lart vmware/win32 and cygwin/X for killing xterm during long compiles |
| 10:28.47 | zecke | pb__: I don't know the mnemoic for mov and add :} |
| 10:28.50 | XorA | ade|desk: I use Xming all day without it killing an xterm |
| 10:31.10 | ade|desk | XorA: will give it a go :) |
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| 10:37.28 | RP | XorA: Which problem did it fix? |
| 10:38.14 | XorA | RP: when device is closed/opened the device make sound come out, I dont need to switch between mic/headphone on mixer to re-enable it |
| 10:38.20 | pH5 | hi all |
| 10:38.37 | RP | XorA: So which problems remain for you? |
| 10:38.43 | RP | hi pH5 |
| 10:38.48 | XorA | RP: the bug that is left is if you pause mplayer while using alsa, when unpause it just locks up (not crashed though as you can q to exit) |
| 10:38.58 | XorA | RP: this does not happen when using OSS |
| 10:39.05 | XorA | RP: so it might be an mplayer bug |
| 10:40.23 | RP | XorA: ok. I'm also left wondering why sound under opie doesn't work :-/ |
| 10:40.52 | XorA | RP: wel Ill keep playing over today, but the major problem looks fixed from my quick tests |
| 10:41.08 | RP | XorA: ok. That's good to know :) |
| 10:43.25 | Bernardo | RP: backing up my akita now before flashing with the alpha1 images... |
| 10:44.21 | Bernardo | anything you want me to test? |
| 10:44.43 | RP | Bernardo: Not specifically - I'd just like to know if it works :) |
| 10:44.52 | Bernardo | ok... |
| 10:45.26 | RP | Bernardo: I'm hoping its in the same state as spitz which is working well |
| 10:45.45 | Bernardo | my only problem is that I don't have network right now so wont be able to add easily any module that isn't in the base image |
| 10:46.09 | Bernardo | my sandisk wifi card was never the same after the washing machine and the dryer... |
| 10:46.42 | RP | I can see it not liking that... |
| 10:47.33 | Bernardo | right now it works for 1 minute tops, after warming up |
| 10:48.05 | Bernardo | does the connect plus (wifi + 128Mb) work well now? |
| 10:48.17 | Bernardo | I'm having a friend bring me one |
| 10:48.31 | RP | The memory and wifi don't work at the same time as far as I know |
| 10:48.48 | RP | but that could have changed, I don't know... |
| 10:49.02 | RP | Does opie do anything c7x0 specific with sound? |
| 10:49.30 | RP | The kernel sound looks fine so I'm beginning to think its opie |
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| 10:51.57 | ArjanS | hrmm... the .oz354fam083 branch is split again |
| 10:52.34 | Bernardo | RP: on kernel 2.4 I have sound in opie about 50% of the time |
| 10:56.05 | _law_ | is it possible that i got an virus-mail from nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net |
| 10:56.12 | _law_ | woem.vb-9 |
| 10:56.23 | _law_ | s/woem/worm |
| 10:56.39 | pb__ | very possible |
| 10:56.52 | pb__ | bkbits is no doubt infested with all forms of malware |
| 10:57.02 | ade|desk | RP: doh, pl110 was compiled and linked but still no display :( |
| 10:57.26 | zecke | pb__: hehe |
| 10:57.33 | RP | ade|desk: It might have hooks in other files if you're just trying to add bits in, I have no idea |
| 10:57.54 | RP | Probably integratorcp.c or whatever the main integrator file is... |
| 10:58.02 | ade|desk | ok will see if i can do this another way. |
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| 11:01.42 | RP | hi Liam |
| 11:01.52 | RP | Was just about to mail you :) |
| 11:02.17 | RP | The latest ASoC looks good and has fixed problems on c7x0 (and continues to work on spitz) |
| 11:03.05 | lrg | RP: excellent. btw, my tosa build is almost finished, so hopefully we will have tosa ok soon. :) |
| 11:04.24 | lrg | RP: i think we may still have the problem where record only wasn't working on borzoi, I can fix this when I receive the new borzio from greentux |
| 11:05.01 | RP | lrg: I've just been experimenting with input on the c7x0 - I get a continuous note in the headphones when I enable Mic Bias and no sidetone... |
| 11:05.19 | RP | I suspect we're missing some key detail about how the hardware is setup... |
| 11:05.43 | RP | lrg: Good news on both fronts :) |
| 11:05.58 | lrg | RP: i agree |
| 11:06.35 | RP | I haven't checked if the record only issue is still there on cxx00 but I suspect it is. For now I've let zaurusd leave sidetone enabled |
| 11:07.08 | lrg | RP: it might help to see the amixer settings when you hear the c7x0 tone. I can the check the wm8731 and ask a hw engineer |
| 11:08.27 | RP | lrg: Interestingly the tone changes if I increase playback volume so perhaps we have a L/R swapped somewhere? |
| 11:08.56 | lrg | RP: interesting... |
| 11:10.33 | RP | lrg: The problem is we have no idea how the jack connects to the wm8731 - At least its simpler that the wm8750 so we stand some chance of working it out :) |
| 11:11.19 | lrg | RP: true, I'll speak to a hw engineer about this and what could cause such a tone. It may be possible to deduce the connections. |
| 11:12.07 | lrg | RP: btw, boku is almost got audio out of his driver :) |
| 11:12.34 | RP | lrg: To hear the tone, I need Mic Boost on and the mixer sidetone switch on. Altering the playback volume or sidetone volume changes the tone |
| 11:14.32 | hrw|work | Bernardo: do nand backup before booting 2.6 on akita |
| 11:14.41 | hrw|work | too late... |
| 11:14.55 | ade|desk | RP: i could kiss you !!!!!! |
| 11:15.00 | RP | lrg: No other mixer settings change things expect the Jack Function - you can hear the tone for both headphones and headset and the tone is different |
| 11:15.25 | lrg | RP: ok, is it possible to dump amixer or alsactl output when this happens on headset and headphones. |
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| 11:17.07 | Bernardo | RP: almost perfect |
| 11:17.38 | Bernardo | package manager still looks for lists in /var/lib/ipkg instead of /usr/lib/ipkg/lists |
| 11:18.21 | Bernardo | and no sound in opie (at least screen taps) |
| 11:18.33 | RP | ade|desk: It works? |
| 11:18.37 | ade|desk | yes |
| 11:18.44 | RP | ade|desk: nice :) |
| 11:18.56 | RP | Bernardo: Does sound work outside of opie? |
| 11:19.00 | ade|desk | i am looking at a screen configuring locale-base- crap |
| 11:19.15 | RP | ade|desk: Ah - that takes a while :) |
| 11:19.26 | RP | I must make some nicer images at some point... |
| 11:19.32 | hrw|work | Bernardo: do nand backup before booting 2.6 on akita |
| 11:19.40 | Bernardo | RP: let me see if I have anything here to test... |
| 11:19.40 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I did... :) |
| 11:19.43 | hrw|work | Bernardo: ;) |
| 11:20.00 | hrw|work | Bernardo: ipkg will use /var/lib/ipkg/ because on collie we are out of space |
| 11:20.18 | ade|desk | RP: i really don't care howlong it takes, this is a non gcc3 build and i am happy |
| 11:20.25 | Bernardo | but ipk still uses /usr/lib/ipkg |
| 11:20.27 | RP | hrw|work: Looks like opie sound is tempramental - this is something outside of my control (and I seem to remember this issue from a long time ago?) |
| 11:20.42 | Bernardo | only package manager points to /var/lib/ipkg |
| 11:20.54 | lrg | RP: do you think its a driver issue ? |
| 11:20.56 | hrw|work | Bernardo: hm |
| 11:21.03 | ade|desk | bbl |
| 11:21.19 | ade|desk | nick ade|afk |
| 11:21.33 | zecke | RP: the QtE OSS implementation is incomplete to name it like this |
| 11:21.41 | hrw|work | Bernardo: just flashed 3.5.4.1 on c7x0 and have 'lists_dir ext /var/lib/ipkg' in ipkg.conf |
| 11:22.09 | zecke | hmm objdump is a dead end |
| 11:22.17 | lrg | zecke: interesting, i wonder when they will use alsa |
| 11:22.39 | zecke | lrg: Qtopia4 - the holy grail that fixes all issues - |
| 11:22.45 | lrg | ah |
| 11:23.10 | zecke | lrg: I think they will not support it any time soon |
| 11:23.18 | lrg | :( |
| 11:23.30 | Bernardo | hrw|work: you're right |
| 11:23.36 | Bernardo | sorry |
| 11:23.52 | Bernardo | I had that commented on my backup ipkg.conf file I had just restored |
| 11:24.03 | RP | lrg: I think its opie at fault as sound is sometimes there sometimes not accross a spectrum of devices... |
| 11:24.21 | lrg | ~lart dell for making a crappy touchpad on the latitude |
| 11:24.23 | RP | lrg: I've sent you some mixer configs which give the tone |
| 11:24.32 | lrg | RP: thanks |
| 11:25.43 | RP | So the question is whether to use 2.6.15 or 2.6.16 for 3.5.4.1 :) |
| 11:26.47 | katossi_uni | does the nokia 770 have host usb? |
| 11:26.49 | lrg | RP: hear hear |
| 11:27.35 | RP | katossi_uni: In hardware yes. Not sure how much its supported though |
| 11:28.47 | katossi_uni | aha, too bad |
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| 11:33.22 | zecke | pb__: How do I find my operands in the hexdump? :} |
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| 11:39.24 | XorA | Microsoft just paid me to tell them linux is great :-) (Ill wait to see if cheque ever arrives) |
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| 11:40.00 | XorA | RP: no probs with 2.6.16 here yet |
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| 11:41.10 | ade|afk | 2.6.16 and pcmciautils .. go on ;) |
| 11:42.15 | Bernardo | swapfile format changed between 2.4 and 2.6? |
| 11:44.22 | RP | Bernardo: I think they might have developed a new format, yes |
| 11:44.36 | hrw|work | Bernardo: if you have idea about meta packages for libxine then send infos |
| 11:44.52 | RP | hrw|work: task packages ;-) |
| 11:45.09 | Bernardo | hrw|work: if I have the time to look at it, I'll do it |
| 11:45.37 | hrw|work | Bernardo: thx |
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| 11:46.39 | Bernardo | also the memory leaks in libipkg don't help at all when installing a few packages |
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| 11:48.07 | do13 | Hi Liam |
| 11:49.39 | psioff | join #openzaurus |
| 11:50.36 | lrg | Hey Dirk |
| 11:51.21 | lrg | do13: any chance to look at the backlight build problem yet ? |
| 11:51.46 | do13 | lrg:Yeah, it works. |
| 11:52.12 | do13 | lrg: But I need some tweaks to buld the image |
| 11:52.33 | lrg | do13: ok, i'll work around for the time being |
| 11:52.48 | do13 | lrg: Do you have a working userland? |
| 11:53.44 | lrg | do13: not yet, i's just failed on creating the image - due to missing kernel modules. I'm updating and rebuilding kernel now |
| 11:54.22 | do13 | lrg: which modules are misssing? |
| 11:55.15 | lrg | do13: the new sound and touch, my fault |
| 11:56.00 | hrw|work | ~hail koen for 'create images from feed' functionality |
| 11:56.03 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen for 'create images from feed' functionality and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 11:56.11 | Bernardo | didn't zautrix have a patch for zuc to work on 640x480? |
| 11:56.34 | hrw|work | Bernardo: had but in a way that it does not work on 320x240 |
| 11:56.38 | do13 | lrg: No. These are build in. Wait I'll look for my tosa.conf |
| 11:57.30 | RP | do13, lrg: If you RRECOMMEND modules you can avoid builds failing when you build them in |
| 11:57.32 | Bernardo | hrw|work: and can we make it so that patch application is dependent on using a 640x480 device? |
| 11:58.10 | do13 | PR: thx |
| 11:58.16 | hrw|work | Bernardo: or do zuc, zuc-hires which is ugly |
| 11:58.48 | lrg | RP, do13: It's my fault. I had a half complete build on friday and did an update this morning before resuming the build - so it was abit out of sync. |
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| 12:00.17 | Bernardo | well, more urgent in my personal priorities list is opie-solitaire... :) |
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| 12:06.13 | Bernardo | RP: the usb port is "stuck" in host mode? |
| 12:06.37 | Bernardo | RP: the usb port is "stuck" in host mode? |
| 12:07.41 | Bernardo | ~lart isa proxy |
| 12:13.27 | Bernardo | somehow I've disable the akita keyboard in konsole |
| 12:13.32 | Bernardo | time to restart opie |
| 12:14.15 | RP | Bernardo: rmmod ohci_hcd ? |
| 12:14.59 | RP | Bernardo: Probably fiddling with Sysrq? :) |
| 12:15.40 | Bernardo | RP: I think I somehow pressed a shift+fn combination while writing "swapon /media/card/.swapfile" |
| 12:15.56 | Bernardo | had to restart opie to get the keyboard responding again |
| 12:16.02 | Bernardo | fat fingers... |
| 12:16.12 | hrw|work | standard qte keyboard problem ;( |
| 12:16.18 | RP | I keep breaking its keyboard handling too :-/ |
| 12:16.40 | Bernardo | so I'm not the only one |
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| 12:19.55 | CIA-1 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra179ed86... 10/packages/sharp-binary-only/ (2 files in 2 dirs): sharp-aticore-oss: added make 3.81 patch from .dev |
| 12:19.59 | Bernardo | there goes opie again... |
| 12:20.17 | Bernardo | ~lart libipkg |
| 12:21.47 | zecke | hrw|work: ?? |
| 12:22.06 | zecke | hrw|work: is the keymap broken? |
| 12:23.08 | Bernardo | RP: now I have sound after this last boot (3rd boot since flashing) |
| 12:24.04 | RP | Bernardo: Interesting. I'm blaming opie ;-) |
| 12:25.25 | hrw|work | zecke: some users reported that Fn+shift kills keyboard on c7x0 - iirc it even was in OE bugtracker |
| 12:26.10 | zecke | hrw|work: well, the guy never replied and the patch was wrong |
| 12:26.26 | zecke | hrw|work: the keyboard driver is an interpreter |
| 12:26.42 | zecke | hrw|work: if it is asks to navigate to column X |
| 12:27.10 | zecke | hrw|work: and now VoidSymbol gets released, the driver will act accordignly (in compliance to man keymaps) |
| 12:29.44 | hrw|work | ok |
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| 12:34.00 | zecke | hrw|work: I might be able to commit a updatet kernel-keymap.patch |
| 12:34.19 | zecke | hrw|work: It has a workaround for broken keymaps and handles >7 bit codes correctly |
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| 12:36.25 | Bernardo | zecke: cool |
| 12:36.46 | Bernardo | it it added support for the zoom and light fn keys, would be even better |
| 12:36.47 | do13 | RP: BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RRECOMMENDS += "kernel-module-soundcore ..." should work? |
| 12:39.49 | lrg | do13, RP: it's failed again - cant satisfy deps for task boostrap wrt to audio and touch modules. It looks like it's asking for the i2s driver which is not required for tosa, I'll try and fix up zaurus-clmashell-2.6.conf to remove the i2s dep for tosa |
| 12:40.49 | do13 | lrg: First remove *wm* from tosa-2.6conf |
| 12:41.11 | lrg | do13: ok. |
| 12:41.36 | RP | do13: yes |
| 12:41.48 | do13 | RP: http://pastebin.ca/46469 |
| 12:43.51 | RP | do13: Something still has them in DEPENDS by the looks of it. The unsatisfied reccomendation messages are just warnings |
| 12:44.03 | RP | (RDEPENDS that is) |
| 12:44.32 | RP | Probably zaurus-clamshell-2.6 - I didn't know tosa was using that |
| 12:44.55 | RP | and given it should install dependent modules, we probably don't need to list i2s in there anyway |
| 12:45.06 | lrg | RP: fixing that now |
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| 12:57.01 | hrw|work | openslug-native is full of stuff... bit too hardcore for me when it comes to <1G storages |
| 12:59.04 | NAiL | it can stand being slimmed down a bit |
| 13:05.23 | hrw|work | NAiL: I'm thinking about something like task-native-sdk |
| 13:05.48 | hrw|work | task-native-sdk-{python,perl,x11,gtk2,opie} - that kind of stuff |
| 13:06.05 | NAiL | not a bad idea |
| 13:06.41 | NAiL | openslug-native was kinda thrown together so we had a quick way of installing build-essentials ;) |
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| 13:17.14 | hrw|work | who has admin powers on OE bugzilla? |
| 13:28.31 | CIA-1 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r13554b43... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig: ixp4xx-kernel: Update defconfig |
| 13:31.11 | do13 | RP: Is this ok http://pastebin.ca/46471 ? |
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| 13:35.38 | Genesis | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0025/3216) [ 0 %] |
| 13:35.53 | Genesis | why need he to do that each time ? |
| 13:36.00 | Genesis | s/it/he |
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| 13:41.40 | RP | do13: yes, that's fine |
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| 13:52.00 | do13 | lrg: mt pull |
| 13:52.02 | do13 | NOTE: package bootstrap-image-1.0: completed |
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| 13:52.50 | CIA-1 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * r5c016e9d... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: remove soundmodules from RDPEPENDS for tosa |
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| 14:05.29 | lrg | do13: ok |
| 14:09.18 | do13 | lrg: I hope later today, I can update to 2.6.16 |
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| 14:22.40 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:26.09 | Bernardo | hi chouimat |
| 14:26.09 | Bernardo | RP: waking up from suspend got it suspended again. Looks like the "on" button might be repeating? |
| 14:26.49 | Bernardo | also, removing the power cord takes about 30 secs to get the light to dim |
| 14:27.54 | Bernardo | putting the cord back in - 10 secs before the backlight brightens |
| 14:28.55 | Bernardo | checked again, 15 secs to off, 10-11 secs to on |
| 14:29.43 | hrw|work | RP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18110&st=0&#entry119576 |
| 14:29.59 | hrw|work | ibot: terrier is Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 |
| 14:30.01 | ibot | hrw|work: okay |
| 14:30.29 | hrw|work | trisoft have sl-c3200 available |
| 14:31.07 | lrg | hrw|work: how much do they cost ? |
| 14:31.16 | hrw|work | RP: can we provide kind of image for them to test does our 2.6 works on terrier? this way we could be first !sharprom distro supporting it |
| 14:31.46 | hrw|work | ljp: at trisoft.de 'coming soon' price |
| 14:32.19 | lrg | hrw|work: I think I'll buy 1 |
| 14:32.29 | hrw|work | lrg: EUR 541 at pricejapan.com |
| 14:33.05 | lrg | hrw|work: thanks |
| 14:33.54 | emte | 541? isnt too bad |
| 14:34.13 | emte | wrong symbol, bac char chart |
| 14:34.17 | emte | bad* |
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| 14:37.31 | do13 | lrg: conics.net 529 EUR |
| 14:39.37 | hrw|work | trisoft would probably want >700EUR |
| 14:41.46 | lrg | do13: thanks, btw gpe-image for tosa still failing for the same the deps (sound & touch) for task-bootstrap |
| 14:42.09 | hrw|work | lrg: rebuild task-bootstrap |
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| 14:42.33 | nacer_ | hi |
| 14:42.35 | lrg | hrw|work: sorry, how do I do that ? |
| 14:43.17 | lrg | hrw|work: I've deleted the tmp/stamps for it and did a bitbake gpe-image |
| 14:43.49 | hrw|work | lrg: bitbake -i and then 'rebuild task-bootstrap;build gpe-image' |
| 14:44.11 | lrg | hrw|work: ah, ok - thanks |
| 14:47.07 | hrw|work | np |
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| 14:48.23 | RP | hrw|work: Ask them try the 2.6 spitz image on it. The only thing I can think of to go wrong is the lack of the right pcmcia ID |
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| 14:49.31 | RP | hrw|work: Perhaps first ask them to find out the pcmcia IDs under 2.4 and we can check they're in 2.6 |
| 14:49.41 | hrw|work | RP: read thread on oesf |
| 14:50.09 | RP | lrg: Just watch out for import duty - probably about an extra 80GBP |
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| 14:50.56 | lrg | RP: that's hefty :( |
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| 14:51.56 | RP | lrg: 20GBP clearance fee and the rest is VAT :-/ |
| 14:53.17 | RP | hrw|work: Having read the thread, I suspect the spitz image will just work then |
| 14:54.57 | zecke | hrw|work: thanks for the xxd hint |
| 14:55.08 | zecke | hrw|work: it worked - took a bit longer than I had expected though |
| 14:55.53 | RP | Bernardo: I suspect that's an issue with opie's apm polling taking a while to notice the user has started charging |
| 14:55.56 | hrw|work | zecke: xxd rule |
| 14:56.12 | RP | The suspend/resume button repeat is worrying as that should be fixed... |
| 14:56.16 | hrw|work | zecke: vi file then :%!xxd then edit then %!xxd then :wq |
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| 15:15.38 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:15.45 | zecke | CoreDump|home: hey |
| 15:16.38 | hrw|work | someone has idea how to make irk-belkin and irk-targus working? then have to conflict but also have to be installable |
| 15:25.37 | zecke | nope :( |
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| 15:42.47 | Bernardo | RP: also, the opie mixer doesn't "speak" alsa |
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| 15:44.05 | hrw|work | Bernardo: opie does not speak alsa at all |
| 15:48.12 | JustinP | hrw|work: ok, will look at it... |
| 15:48.35 | RP | Bernardo: It should be able to talk via the OSS mixer. I suspect that communication is limited |
| 15:52.47 | hrw|work | JustinP: thx (we speak about e17 - right?) |
| 15:53.02 | jnc | darn, kernel 2.6.16-r0 too big for spitz |
| 15:53.26 | jnc | "| Size is 1306348" |
| 15:53.53 | Genesis | too many things in the kernel |
| 15:54.16 | Genesis | it's not the place for driver i find |
| 15:55.36 | JustinP | hrw|work: I assume so... |
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| 16:02.01 | zecke | kergoth: ping |
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| 16:07.59 | jnc | RP: could the defconfig-cxx00 please define cc optimize for size? |
| 16:08.29 | Genesis | RP, : you said in your doc that your initrd.bin is gzipped file , but i don't succeed to uncompressed it |
| 16:08.52 | RP | Genesis: Note is says gzip -c |
| 16:09.14 | RP | jnc: I'm not sure I like that option although I can see why you'd want it in your case |
| 16:09.28 | Genesis | ho |
| 16:09.33 | JustinP | what is the size of the root partition for the c750? |
| 16:10.01 | Genesis | i'll test somethings else |
| 16:10.10 | jnc | RP: it's standard for x86 kernel configs, reccommended by kernel peoples as i grok it |
| 16:10.23 | hrw|work | JustinP: ~23M |
| 16:10.33 | jnc | i see how it could break though |
| 16:10.38 | JustinP | ack |
| 16:10.47 | JustinP | ok, well, e-image-core is probably also too big |
| 16:10.54 | JustinP | shows 21M on the site |
| 16:11.12 | RP | jnc: I'd be interested in seeing if there is a difference in kernel performance |
| 16:11.25 | RP | (vs. memory usage) |
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| 16:13.58 | JustinP | anyone with a c750 want to test an e-image(-core) for me? |
| 16:14.00 | JustinP | on a card would be best |
| 16:14.00 | lardman|work | JustinP: I can do so this evening |
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| 16:14.02 | JustinP | lardman|work: I'd appreciate it. The e17 stuff has been tested only on spitz & akita so far |
| 16:14.02 | lardman|work | JustinP: Just the core image from the standard download location? |
| 16:14.02 | zecke | RP: the bitbake performance is totally weird |
| 16:14.16 | zecke | RP: no method takes more than 0.05 seconds on invocation |
| 16:14.32 | zecke | RP: only calling these functions 17.000.000 times accumulate |
| 16:14.49 | RP | zecke: So the solution is to call less things? :) |
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| 16:15.37 | zecke | RP: we have ~3000 bb files but we call execute 33.000 times |
| 16:15.55 | hrw|work | hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/oz354x/_test$ ipkg install irk-targus |
| 16:15.55 | hrw|work | Installing irk-belkin (0.11-r2) to temp... |
| 16:16.10 | zecke | koen|away: could you update python to python2.4.2 (from 2.4.1?) |
| 16:16.11 | hrw|work | any ideas how to resolve that? |
| 16:16.12 | JustinP | lardman|bbiab: core first off, yes. I suggest trying it with a loopback image, I'm not sure if it fits in the flash.... |
| 16:16.41 | RP | zecke: Do we need to execute all these things at parse time? |
| 16:16.56 | RP | zecke: There are a limited number of variables we're interested in... |
| 16:17.19 | zecke | RP: well each variable could influence other variables |
| 16:17.46 | zecke | RP: part of it will be to parse each .bbclass only once |
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| 16:18.43 | zecke | RP: I accidently closed my terminal. within some hours I will have the hotshot profile loaded :} |
| 16:18.50 | RP | zecke: I realise the variable dependencies are tricky... |
| 16:18.54 | jnc | that will eat a huge amount of memory |
| 16:19.06 | RP | I appeciate the reasons behind kergoth's redesign... |
| 16:20.50 | RP | jnc: It depends how you do it. The idea was to parse into a database |
| 16:21.05 | zecke | RP: which makes things slower at first |
| 16:21.25 | RP | zecke: but rebuilds should just be able to rebuild the variables that changed |
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| 16:21.56 | zecke | RP: yeah you want to store the syntax trees for bbfiles and classes |
| 16:22.05 | zecke | RP: and then you want to assemble those :} |
| 16:22.29 | RP | I've given that a fiar bit of thought. I did reach some bits of the dependency tracking that seemed difficult to solve though due to bitbake's variable structure |
| 16:22.32 | zecke | RP: and I'm pretty sure there will be efficient tree algorithmis for that already |
| 16:22.40 | RP | I can't quite remember that that was... |
| 16:23.33 | RP | zecke: One of these days I'll write this multi threaded builder which will also use some interesting algorithms. I have most of them in my head :-/ |
| 16:23.53 | jnc | would eliminating executable code from bb files be helpful? |
| 16:24.25 | RP | jnc: Its a rather fundemental part of OE/bitbake |
| 16:24.42 | jnc | i don't find it necessary |
| 16:25.29 | jnc | there are python-isms which could be abstracted out |
| 16:25.35 | RP | jnc: bbclass files are just bb files |
| 16:25.42 | jnc | like things referencing FILE |
| 16:25.50 | zecke | RP: I will finish the c++ parser, but currently I think a better data implementation will help us more |
| 16:25.55 | jnc | hm |
| 16:26.16 | jnc | okay i guess i wasn't refering to bbclass |
| 16:26.38 | zecke | RP: would you be interested in the hotshot profiler file? |
| 16:26.41 | RP | jnc: Internally they're the same thing to bitbake - renamed for users to see what goes on more clearly |
| 16:27.10 | RP | zecke: I'm not sure my python is elite enough to be able to use it? |
| 16:27.24 | zecke | RP: do you have python 2.4.2 installed? |
| 16:27.35 | zecke | hotshot uses cuntime as abreviation :} |
| 16:28.33 | RP | zecke: I have on certain machines, yes |
| 16:28.45 | zecke | ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/bitbake.hotshot |
| 16:28.53 | zecke | from hotshot import stats |
| 16:29.04 | zecke | s = stats.load('bitbake.prof') |
| 16:29.09 | zecke | wait... |
| 16:29.11 | zecke | dir(d) |
| 16:29.17 | zecke | dir(s) even |
| 16:30.15 | RP | zecke: I guess this would explain why the cache isn't of too much benefit |
| 16:31.15 | hrw|work | jnc: by 'executeble code in bb' you mean all those do_compile(), do_install() etc parts? |
| 16:31.35 | jnc | hrw|work: i mean things like sed statements |
| 16:31.45 | zecke | RP: AUT? |
| 16:31.56 | RP | zecke: Acceptable Use Policy |
| 16:32.00 | zecke | RP: ISP == Uni ATM |
| 16:32.12 | zecke | RP: I sincerly hope I do not violate that :} |
| 16:32.28 | hrw|work | jnc: so all do_*() parts |
| 16:33.01 | jnc | hrw|work: those are needed by bitbake and used in many places |
| 16:33.20 | jnc | i meant unnecessary executions of code |
| 16:33.39 | jnc | a sed statement at runtime is unnecessary |
| 16:33.55 | lrg | ping koen |
| 16:34.13 | jnc | using a bit of python code referencing FILE should be unnecessary |
| 16:35.32 | jnc | these things exist because bitbake/OE does not provide a consistent way, or it does and it's not being used |
| 16:35.58 | jnc | it makes optimizing more difficult |
| 16:37.18 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/alanc?entry=security_hole_in_xorg_6 |
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| 16:38.07 | JustinP | sed makes optimizing difficult? |
| 16:38.29 | JustinP | are you saying we should remove the *shell* code from bb files? I don't see how that could even be possible |
| 16:39.35 | zecke | "Why shouldn't we remove all methods?" |
| 16:39.53 | zecke | Bitbake Tuning 300 |
| 16:40.33 | zecke | pals, we should regulary play online games |
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| 16:44.06 | JustinP | :-) |
| 16:44.29 | XorA | RP: wierd, either a 2.6.16 change or a gpe change, but powerbutton is now Calendar + Suspend :-) |
| 16:47.21 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 16:53.37 | zecke | RP: my hotshot profile is still loading |
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| 16:59.35 | hrw|work | RP: we have poodle in UK for shipping costs |
| 17:00.31 | RP | hrw|work: That sounds good! :) |
| 17:00.41 | hrw|work | RP: can he send it to you? |
| 17:00.46 | hrw|work | RP: aa_ user on #gpe |
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| 17:06.15 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:25.54 | Genesis | bye |
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| 18:24.26 | ljp | sshhhhh |
| 18:24.44 | pb__ | are you trying to sleep? |
| 18:26.10 | lrg | hey pb__ |
| 18:27.03 | ljp | me? nope. just waking up |
| 18:27.15 | ljp | didnt want to disturb anyone sleeping in here |
| 18:27.24 | lrg | pb__: are you going to CELF ? |
| 18:33.17 | RP | That's a good question - who is going to CELF out of interest? |
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| 18:38.56 | aa_ | hi |
| 18:39.26 | aa_ | I am about to try things I am not really clever enough to try on my ipaq3715 |
| 18:40.16 | aa_ | now the kernel boots with that script thing, and I can log in ssh over usb |
| 18:40.49 | aa_ | seems that it is not mounting any drives. Woulkd the next step be to attempt to get something more than the 16 mb ramdisk? |
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| 18:44.23 | pb__ | lrg: probably not, unfortunately |
| 18:44.51 | pb__ | ljp: ah right, very public spirited of you |
| 18:45.02 | aa_ | pb__: you're famous, what should I do in general terms? please? |
| 18:45.41 | aa_ | or in fact, who should I speak to |
| 18:45.46 | pb__ | aa_: what are you trying to achieve? I don't really know what the state of the art is on the 3715. |
| 18:45.47 | aa_ | in fact, never mind |
| 18:46.06 | pb__ | heh, okay |
| 18:46.28 | aa_ | pb__: well, there is a booting kernel, and ssh, nicely, but nothing more than a ramdisk and no mounted partitions |
| 18:46.38 | aa_ | but still never mind...I will browse for a while |
| 18:46.45 | pb__ | righto |
| 18:48.01 | kergoth | zecke: replied. thats fine with me |
| 18:48.14 | ljp | make that infamous :) |
| 18:49.13 | aa_ | well, I remember these names from a time when I used to use oz |
| 18:49.17 | aa_ | :) |
| 18:52.36 | zecke | kergoth: you saved me to lookup that agreement from my mailbox |
| 18:52.50 | zecke | kergoth: and I can finally take that code from ROAD back to OE ) |
| 18:53.00 | zecke | kergoth: and bring it in shape for Qt4 |
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| 18:56.02 | zecke | kergoth: would have been a shame to redo the fixes |
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| 19:01.25 | aa_ | ok, seems I am stuck asking annoying questions. Really sorry. |
| 19:03.43 | aa_ | the 3715 has an internal disk it calls "storage" what are the chances of mounting that? |
| 19:05.03 | kergoth | zecke: nod. glad to hear it |
| 19:06.17 | aa_ | also the radisk is 12 mb and I think there are 64 mb available, should I set it to use the whole thing? |
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| 19:11.38 | ljp | chances are 4,500,546:1 |
| 19:11.49 | aa_ | in my favour? |
| 19:12.16 | ljp | i dunno. you tried mounting it? |
| 19:12.29 | aa_ | I am going through /dev trying to munt everything |
| 19:12.50 | aa_ | my mummy told me to learn shell scripting, but well, I was lazy |
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| 19:14.36 | aa_ | now, although I am clueless, I am sensing that maybe /dev/ is just wrong |
| 19:15.05 | aa_ | I think I need to do things like find out where these things are or something |
| 19:15.43 | aa_ | ok, well, the sd card could also be the thing to do it |
| 19:23.12 | pb_ | aa_: check dmesg, see if it says anything about mtd devices |
| 19:23.34 | aa_ | ok, thanks |
| 19:23.51 | pb_ | if so, those would be your internal storage. you would need to be careful about mounting them, though, since your machine might become unusable if wince gets upset. |
| 19:24.18 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 19:26.36 | aa_ | pb_: unfortunately no mention |
| 19:28.20 | aa_ | oh wow, I found instructions |
| 19:29.38 | aa_ | the instructions end like this "If I were a real hacker, I would download the ARM cross-compiler, download |
| 19:29.41 | kergoth | hey |
| 19:29.42 | aa_ | the kernel and the patches and start editing and linking |
| 19:29.44 | aa_ | in the asic3 SD card module. Or something like that." |
| 19:29.55 | zecke | OT: how can I scroll in a screen? |
| 19:30.07 | aa_ | control-a escape |
| 19:30.17 | aa_ | g-up pg-down |
| 19:31.40 | zecke | RP: Okay here it is: from 5 minutes parsing, two are spend compiling and executing functions |
| 19:33.09 | polyonymous | Rewrite it into c(++) and precompile c-based .bbs into .so :) |
| 19:34.30 | zecke | polyonymous: that doesn't make it more efficient |
| 19:34.48 | zecke | polyonymous: compiling each function and executing is almost O(1) |
| 19:34.57 | polyonymous | Well, in fact, I was kidding, but I'm not sure if it's true. |
| 19:35.01 | zecke | (with the functions we have) |
| 19:35.36 | zecke | kergoth: did you ever used the feature where you downloaded a BBFILE from the internet? |
| 19:35.43 | polyonymous | You won't have to compile them each time. |
| 19:35.55 | polyonymous | (but then again, don't take it seriously) |
| 19:36.46 | pb_ | zecke: it'd be interesting to see a breakdown of that per function. |
| 19:36.47 | kergoth | zecke: hmm, i think i tested it once. the idea behind that was to facilitate having the .bb in the upstream source tree, pulling that down and including it for use in a .bb repo |
| 19:36.52 | kergoth | been a long time though |
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| 19:37.11 | kergoth | and bb isnt really a very good fit for development at the moment anyway |
| 19:37.15 | pb_ | zecke: (and with compile and execute separated out) |
| 19:38.07 | zecke | kergoth: it stops where your localpath is a tar.gz ;) |
| 19:38.29 | zecke | ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/bitbake.hotshot |
| 19:38.43 | zecke | (and again don't try to search for hotshot and cuntime |
| 19:38.57 | pb_ | zecke: heh, do you go by the name "hotshot" these days? |
| 19:40.42 | zecke | pb_: I just wanted to get some hints - well I got other 'hints' |
| 19:40.59 | pb_ | hehe |
| 19:42.12 | zecke | kergoth: and the 'scoping' of python functions is the one 'wanted'? |
| 19:42.41 | kergoth | i dont understand what you'er asking |
| 19:45.44 | pb_ | I guess he's asking whether it's correct that "def ...:" pokes the function into the global builtins namespace. |
| 19:46.32 | kergoth | ah. well, the problem with it atm is that it could easily be prone to side effects. no isolation |
| 19:46.44 | kergoth | moving it into its own namspace might be a Good Thing(tm) |
| 19:46.47 | pb_ | yeah |
| 19:47.39 | pb_ | tricky to do that now without creating a compatibility headache though |
| 19:47.47 | pb_ | I guess you'd need to introduce a new scoped variant of "def" |
| 19:49.02 | kergoth | thats true. we really shouldve implemented a means of versioning for our metadata at the start |
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| 19:49.09 | pb_ | right |
| 19:49.13 | pb_ | we suck, but we knew that already |
| 19:49.14 | Ken|JLime | Quick question, what is the clean command? |
| 19:49.33 | Ken|JLime | -c clean? |
| 19:49.34 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:50.42 | zecke | kergoth: global scoping is nice as well |
| 19:50.50 | zecke | kergoth: just parse the functions once |
| 19:51.05 | zecke | kergoth: specially handlers, and helper functions of .bbclasses |
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| 19:54.20 | pb_ | not sure what handlers you're thinking of, but helper functions might well benefit from that. |
| 19:54.43 | pb_ | package.bbclass is quite an offender in that regard, it has loads of functions that don't really need to be compiled again and again |
| 19:55.47 | kergoth | whee.. you know whats fun... a segfault before the mmu has been setup |
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| 19:59.33 | pb_ | kergoth: eleet |
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| 20:03.51 | kergoth | gotta love uml though. makes debugging stuff like that so much easier |
| 20:04.32 | hrw|gone | 3A |
| 20:05.48 | pb_ | mm, yeah. though, xen is my virtualizer of choice these days. |
| 20:06.03 | kergoth | i need to try that, have yet to do so |
| 20:06.11 | pb_ | seems to perform a lot better than uml from what I've seen so far |
| 20:06.38 | kergoth | nice |
| 20:07.33 | pb_ | yeah, it's very cool. only problem I've had with it is that it seems to hate my Via C3 machines. |
| 20:08.07 | zecke | pb_: if package.bbclass would define different functions depending on the bbfile |
| 20:08.15 | zecke | that would be horror - eh chaos |
| 20:08.19 | zecke | but again chaos is good |
| 20:08.21 | woglinde | hm the hardware virtualizer for the i5/p5/openserver platform kicks ass, but it's a little bit expensive |
| 20:08.41 | pb_ | zecke: I don't think it can. afaik, the "def ...:" syntax doesn't go near bb.data, so there is no way for the bbfile to influence the code. |
| 20:08.51 | zecke | woglinde: hehe Mr. i5 certified? |
| 20:09.02 | zecke | pb_: this is what you want to believe :} |
| 20:09.10 | woglinde | zecke calm down *g* |
| 20:09.21 | pb_ | obviously that isn't true for "python xxxx() { .... }" though: you really do need to parse those every time. |
| 20:09.26 | woglinde | zecke let's fix the RMI code |
| 20:09.35 | pb_ | zecke: right, this belief is what lets me sleep at night |
| 20:09.49 | zecke | woglinde: is it my time to get involved? |
| 20:10.39 | zecke | NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 3217 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked. |
| 20:10.40 | zecke | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency foo |
| 20:10.41 | zecke | real 0m14.396s |
| 20:11.40 | zecke | for the record that is bitbake, with a 'Null Parser', without any usage of eval and exec |
| 20:11.53 | zecke | but with configuration parsing, and going through each bb file |
| 20:14.31 | pb_ | very good |
| 20:15.44 | zecke | to satisfy the speed junky my voices say "Ship.IT, Ship.IT" |
| 20:31.20 | Ken|JLime | How do i clean the "memory" of a bitbake build? Made some changes to a .bb file and want it to delete the old compiled and compile again |
| 20:31.57 | CoreDump|home | bitbake -c clean -b .bb |
| 20:33.10 | zecke | CoreDump|home: will that trigger the bitbake bug? |
| 20:33.21 | CoreDump|home | nope |
| 20:33.46 | CoreDump|home | which bug anyways? |
| 20:34.02 | kergoth | i seem to have misplaced my paycheck |
| 20:34.03 | zecke | CoreDump|home: -c clean cleaning all dependencies as well |
| 20:34.04 | kergoth | this cant be good |
| 20:34.12 | zecke | oh :( |
| 20:34.15 | CoreDump|home | zecke: ouch |
| 20:34.22 | zecke | kergoth: print a new one? |
| 20:34.44 | kergoth | yea, will have to call them and have them put a stop payment on teh current one and send a new one |
| 20:34.47 | kergoth | bleh |
| 20:44.04 | pb_ | kergoth: suck |
| 20:51.25 | kergoth | god i suck with gdb. i should fix that |
| 20:52.03 | nacer_ | hi |
| 20:52.13 | nacer_ | i have probleme with compilation of gpe-image |
| 20:52.18 | pb_ | that's very sad. |
| 20:52.19 | nacer_ | touch: ne peut faire un touch sur `/home/ovea/laradji/emulation/gentoo/os1/build/tmp/deploy/ipk/Packages': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
| 20:52.19 | nacer_ | NOTE: Task failed: /home/ovea/laradji/emulation/gentoo/os1/build/tmp/work/gpe-image-1.0-r19/temp/log.do_rootfs.6577 |
| 20:52.29 | pb_ | sounds like you failed to set a DISTRO |
| 20:52.45 | nacer_ | erf ok |
| 20:52.56 | pb_ | if you don't specify a DISTRO, you won't get any packages created |
| 20:53.05 | nacer_ | for build a i386 work with qemu |
| 20:53.10 | nacer_ | what distro i use ? |
| 20:53.20 | pb_ | look in conf/distro |
| 20:53.28 | pb_ | you probably want "familiar-unstable" or some such |
| 20:53.43 | nacer_ | ok |
| 20:53.45 | nacer_ | tks |
| 20:53.45 | pb_ | or, alternatively, you could add package_ipk to INHERIT directly |
| 20:54.47 | nacer_ | i have choose familiar |
| 20:54.51 | nacer_ | unstable |
| 20:55.16 | nacer_ | i need to rebuild nano and task-bootstrap |
| 20:55.19 | nacer_ | ? |
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| 20:55.52 | pb_ | I think it should work to just "bitbake gpe-image" again |
| 20:56.00 | pb_ | you don't need to build nano, that's just an example |
| 20:56.04 | nacer_ | i have a syntax bug with local.conf syntax |
| 20:56.20 | pb_ | what's the error? |
| 20:56.27 | nacer_ | i have comment require sanity.conf in bitbake.conf for resolv it |
| 20:56.39 | pb_ | oh right, yeah |
| 20:56.48 | pb_ | your bitbake is a bit too old, but I think commenting out that line is OK |
| 20:56.56 | nacer_ | ok |
| 20:57.04 | nacer_ | 1.3.2 bitbake |
| 20:58.17 | pb_ | yeah, the latest is something like 1.3.3.1 |
| 20:58.22 | nacer_ | ok |
| 20:58.37 | pb_ | I don't think it matters, but I'm not completely sure. Ueberhacker Zecke would be your resource for that information. |
| 20:58.55 | nacer_ | the wiki doc is very usefull :) |
| 20:59.06 | nacer_ | i have never use bitbake or monotone |
| 20:59.38 | kami22 | hi can someone pls help me i am trying to use cyrus-sasl under Openslug i installed only the standard package cyrus-sasl and cyrus-sasl-dev and i always get this error on my screen and in my /var/log/messages: http://pastebin.ca/46537 |
| 21:00.01 | pb_ | kami22: you should probably take that up with the openslug folks in #nslu2-linux or someplace |
| 21:00.06 | nacer_ | i only want to make a image for view opie and gpe on qemu |
| 21:00.58 | kami22 | but i think its a package problem |
| 21:01.19 | zecke | nacer_: for 'require' you need to have the latest released version of bitbake? |
| 21:01.35 | zecke | RP: should we dump trunk into a bitbake releasE? |
| 21:01.58 | CIA-1 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * r67f607ed... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus_2.6.16: add patches for tosa |
| 21:02.21 | kergoth | uml forks off a shitload of processes... how to determine which one to attach my gdb to.. |
| 21:02.24 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:02.32 | nacer_ | do you know what OS use this pda phone : |
| 21:02.33 | nacer_ | http://www.imcosys.com/ |
| 21:02.34 | nacer_ | ? |
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| 21:03.17 | nacer_ | zecke: i have comment the require and i try without the last version |
| 21:03.18 | pb_ | kergoth: are they actually forks, or just threads? |
| 21:03.26 | nacer_ | if i have a bug a i install it |
| 21:03.48 | kergoth | "detaching after fork from child process" |
| 21:03.49 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:03.55 | kergoth | looks like both |
| 21:03.59 | pb_ | doh |
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| 21:04.27 | pb_ | maybe you can attach a separate gdb to each one |
| 21:04.40 | pb_ | use the power of your multitasking operating system, and all that |
| 21:05.09 | do13 | nacer_: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4475809720.html |
| 21:05.35 | kergoth | hmm, you can add c code to make it wait for a gdb to connect to it, cant you? |
| 21:06.26 | koen | lrg: pong |
| 21:06.32 | lrg | hey koen |
| 21:06.45 | do13 | hey koen |
| 21:07.13 | lrg | koen: i think I may have fast (100Mb) mirror for OE |
| 21:08.05 | pb_ | kergoth: try just putting in a sleep(100) or something. When gdb connects it should cause the sleep to return immediately. |
| 21:08.12 | kergoth | ah. |
| 21:08.19 | kergoth | thanks |
| 21:08.38 | kergoth | i'm such a printf/printk debugger :P |
| 21:08.45 | lrg | koen: I should ssh get access to it in a few weeks and set up some accounts. someone could then set up an OE mirror. |
| 21:09.18 | lrg | get ssh |
| 21:09.21 | pb_ | or alternatively, the freebsd folks have a slightly more sophisticated version: see the end of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/debugging.html |
| 21:09.58 | pb_ | kergoth: heh, yeah. given the sucky state of gdb on arm, it's easy to get used to printf. |
| 21:10.13 | pb_ | but gdb on i386 is usually pretty good. |
| 21:10.33 | zecke | pb_: hehe |
| 21:10.38 | lrg | pp_: heh, use printk all the time |
| 21:10.45 | pb_ | yeah, you crazy kernel guys |
| 21:10.45 | zecke | pb_: printf is there any other debugging tool for arm? |
| 21:11.06 | lrg | zecke: a flashing LED ;) |
| 21:11.07 | do13 | lrg: you can start with 2.6.16 |
| 21:11.15 | pb_ | zecke: yeah, oscilloscope |
| 21:11.30 | lrg | do13: will do, I'll mt pull and rebuild |
| 21:11.53 | lrg | zecke: and if your rich, a logic analyser. |
| 21:12.00 | zecke | they all are pretty good tools |
| 21:12.13 | zecke | LED's when getting the bootldr running on your new board :} |
| 21:12.23 | zecke | oh it is green, it initialized the UART1 |
| 21:12.57 | lrg | zecke: at least mainstone has hex leds for dumping memory addresses :) |
| 21:13.13 | zecke | wow |
| 21:13.43 | lrg | zecke: although, I've not had to do that for a long time as things have been stable for ages. |
| 21:13.56 | pb_ | zecke: indeed. and then, when your code gets more sophisticated, you can use the same led to send error messages in morse code |
| 21:14.04 | lrg | heh |
| 21:14.41 | lrg | pb_: but what about if you have a timing proble ;) |
| 21:14.48 | lrg | problem |
| 21:15.26 | pb_ | mm, then I guess you're fairly screwed |
| 21:16.42 | pb_ | incidentally, you don't even need to be all that rich these days to have a logic analyzer; see http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HEWLETT-PACKARD-1630D-LOGIC-ANALYZER_W0QQitemZ7602281344QQcategoryZ25399QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem for example |
| 21:18.16 | lrg | pb_: wow, that's good value. I've been thinking about one for home..... |
| 21:19.07 | zecke | hmm not responding here |
| 21:19.27 | pb_ | I guess you need the equivalent ebay.de url :-} |
| 21:19.41 | pb_ | it's item number 7600640080 |
| 21:20.00 | do13 | here is an usb based one http://www.pctestinstruments.com/ |
| 21:20.02 | zecke | pb_: thanks |
| 21:20.58 | RP | Hmm. I could use a logic analyzer :) |
| 21:21.26 | do13 | Yeah. It's nice |
| 21:21.35 | lrg | do13: very nice (except for the windows front end) 200MHz will definatly be enough for all portable audio busses |
| 21:22.00 | do13 | I2C, SPI and RS232 Interpreters are good |
| 21:22.41 | RP | My scope is a bit behind the times now as well I guess... |
| 21:23.00 | do13 | RP: old analog one? |
| 21:23.19 | RP | do13: Yes. Very old... |
| 21:24.04 | do13 | RP: Same here.. |
| 21:25.45 | koen | lrg: cool news about the mirror |
| 21:25.50 | lrg | The funny thing is that they sell it with 8Mb of physical RAM and only enable 512k of it. You need to buy a software key to get the rest |
| 21:26.09 | lrg | koen: yes, i'm hoping it will come in handy for other stuff as well |
| 21:26.20 | RP | I wonder if I can talk my boss into kitting out an electronics lab :) |
| 21:26.30 | RP | somehow I doubt it... |
| 21:26.48 | lrg | RP: you could alway come up to Edinburgh and borrow some of my stuff |
| 21:27.01 | zecke | wow I 'parsed' all bitbake files within 9 seconds :} |
| 21:27.13 | pb_ | zecke: awesome |
| 21:27.14 | lrg | zecke: wow |
| 21:27.43 | zecke | lrg: totoally unusable though |
| 21:27.52 | lrg | koen: who would be the best person to set up the OE mirror ? |
| 21:27.57 | lrg | zecke: :( |
| 21:28.07 | pb_ | zecke: not awesome |
| 21:28.14 | RP | lrg: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind :) |
| 21:28.38 | zecke | pb_: well I now I know that collecting files takes 9 seconds + parsing |
| 21:29.08 | zecke | pb_: eval+compile+exec takes about 1:50 minute |
| 21:29.23 | pb_ | zecke: so, what did you actually do in the 9 seconds? is that just reading the files and lexing them? |
| 21:30.06 | zecke | pb_: sleep(8) |
| 21:30.21 | pb_ | zecke: ah, I sense an opportunity for optimisation |
| 21:30.54 | zecke | pb_: it parsed local/conf, getting FILES, PROVIDES from the file |
| 21:31.08 | koen | lrg: mickeyl, hrw or me |
| 21:31.09 | zecke | pb_: so we have 9 seconds python overhead |
| 21:31.19 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: ping? |
| 21:31.32 | lrg | koen: ok, I'll send you all an email when I know more. |
| 21:37.26 | koen | lrg: ok, thanks |
| 21:46.02 | pb_ | zecke: oh, crumbs |
| 21:47.09 | zecke | pb_: what are 9 seconds, taking account ewi is not the fastest machine :} |
| 21:47.42 | pb_ | oh, I thought ewi was totally the fastest machine |
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| 21:48.56 | zecke | pb_: just because it pulls within hours :} |
| 21:49.41 | zecke | pb_: what takes 10 seconds on ewi takes 20 on my ibook :( |
| 21:53.18 | pb_ | zecke: ah, ewi is only twice as fast as your ibook? then it is indeed slower than I thought. |
| 21:53.21 | RP | zecke: What proportion of data operations are flag based vs operations on the variables themselves? |
| 21:53.41 | zecke | RP: I don't know yet |
| 21:54.10 | zecke | RP: a.print_callers('getVar') |
| 21:54.25 | zecke | RP: do get a list of who called a method looking like getVar* |
| 21:54.48 | zecke | RP: getVarFlag gets called by getVar as well |
| 21:55.50 | zecke | pb_: now I'm at two seconds for bitbake opie-image |
| 21:56.13 | pb_ | very good |
| 21:56.16 | zecke | pb_: and bitbake world takes 8 |
| 21:56.20 | pb_ | presumably gpe-image is much slower due to x11 bloat |
| 21:56.31 | zecke | pb_: so building the world package list takes 6 seconds |
| 21:56.46 | zecke | pb_: yeah also parsing the massive amounts of badly formated c code |
| 21:56.58 | zecke | pb_: takes at least 2^n the time parsing c++ takes |
| 21:57.05 | pb_ | so I heard |
| 21:57.49 | koen | zecke: is it IO or cpu bound? |
| 21:57.58 | zecke | koen: both, I guess |
| 21:58.19 | zecke | koen: could you install python 2.4.2 on ewi? |
| 21:59.13 | koen | zecke: done |
| 21:59.15 | lrg | night all |
| 21:59.20 | zecke | koen: thanks |
| 21:59.58 | zecke | damn |
| 22:00.05 | zecke | searching hotshot Profile... |
| 22:00.19 | zecke | Yeah I want to see profiles of 16 year old brit girls |
| 22:02.47 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.48 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.48 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.48 | zecke | ImportError: No module named profile |
| 22:02.53 | zecke | hmm still broken |
| 22:03.36 | do13 | RP: who was writting the CE-RH1 driver? |
| 22:04.13 | RP | do13: CE-RH2 I think and it was JustinP |
| 22:04.29 | do13 | RP: This is nice http://home.arcor.de/relei2004/zaurusfernb.html |
| 22:05.11 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:06.07 | RP | do13: Nice to know it works the way I thought it did :) |
| 22:06.36 | do13 | RP: Can you read the text? |
| 22:08.21 | RP | do13: Not exactly but I think the meaning is fairly clear - circuit diagrams are a universal lanuage :) |
| 22:08.43 | do13 | :) |
| 22:09.14 | RP | Its interesting the values changes between c7x0 and cxx00 |
| 22:09.16 | koen | RP: I tried explaining that to a few CS students |
| 22:09.36 | koen | RP: the gave me blank look and said "Dude, just use java for that" |
| 22:09.44 | nacer_ | i have a error with compilation of glibc |
| 22:09.46 | nacer_ | | make[2]: *** [/home/ovea/laradji/emulation/gentoo/os1/build/tmp/work/i386-linux/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3/build-i386-linux/csu/divdi3.os] Erreur 1 |
| 22:09.46 | nacer_ | | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ovea/laradji/emulation/gentoo/os1/build/tmp/work/i386-linux/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3/libc/csu' |
| 22:09.46 | nacer_ | | make[1]: *** [csu/subdir_lib] Erreur 2 |
| 22:12.41 | RP | koen: They probably meant you needed coffee :) |
| 22:14.24 | do13 | night all |
| 22:14.52 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: I need you :) |
| 22:15.24 | RP | 'night Dirk |
| 22:15.49 | NAbyss | koen: CS students, for the most part, are idiots... don't bother explaining it ;) |
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| 22:19.28 | pb_ | zecke: bad luck, it appears that mickey has fallen into some kind of enchanted 100-year sleep |
| 22:21.33 | zecke | hmm without psyco times go from 2 to 6 seconds |
| 22:23.26 | koen | heh |
| 22:23.39 | koen | RMK gives an example on how *not* to use git |
| 22:23.52 | zecke | koen: with his external patches? |
| 22:24.10 | zecke | koen: well, I love it. The second question was to get even more from rmk :} |
| 22:24.22 | zecke | hey now you publish patches, gives us your git tree |
| 22:24.51 | zecke | with parsing in python it goes from 6 seconds to 2m26 |
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| 22:31.27 | Ken|JLime | Trying to compile busybox, Giving me some errors about posix_types.h http://pastebin.com/615183 any suggestions? |
| 22:37.36 | Ken|JLime | Anyone? |
| 22:38.30 | koen | 'night all |
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| 22:48.14 | Bernardo|away | stupid question of the night - the oz354x branch still uses the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 dir? |
| 22:48.30 | zecke | Bernardo|away: that depends |
| 22:48.43 | zecke | Bernardo|away: if you do co --branch oz354x you will have a oz354x dir |
| 22:48.56 | zecke | Bernardo|away: if you did up --branch oz354x the dir name is not changed |
| 22:49.08 | Bernardo|away | zecke: thanks |
| 22:51.43 | Bernardo|away | now to find out why am I getting a "branch 'oz534x' is empty" |
| 22:51.59 | zecke | 534? |
| 22:52.05 | Bernardo|away | 354 |
| 22:52.20 | zecke | Bernardo|away: did you pull that branch as well? |
| 22:53.07 | Bernardo|away | yes, I did "monotone --db=oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de 'org.openembedded.oz354x" |
| 22:53.16 | zecke | good |
| 22:53.16 | Bernardo|away | and it got 30 revs at least |
| 22:54.34 | Bernardo|away | also, if I do a list branches on that db, it has dev, dreambox, oz354fam083 and oz354x |
| 22:54.58 | Bernardo|away | nm |
| 22:55.00 | zecke | if you try to check it out? does it work? |
| 22:55.08 | Bernardo|away | seems I did a mistype |
| 22:55.29 | Bernardo|away | trying to check it out now again and it seems to be doing something |
| 22:55.41 | Bernardo|away | yep, got the dir right now |
| 22:55.47 | Bernardo|away | I must have mistyped before |
| 22:55.54 | Bernardo|away | thanks zecke, sorry for the trouble |
| 22:57.08 | mithro | i need grunts |
| 22:57.31 | Bernardo|away | 'night everyone |
| 22:57.31 | zecke | mithro: hi |
| 22:57.39 | zecke | mithro: can one mix WxPython and PyGame? |
| 22:58.32 | mithro | anyone want to be a Grunt for the Thousand Parsec project? |
| 22:59.07 | zecke | mithro: what is a grunt? |
| 22:59.28 | zecke | mithro: I can make sounds |
| 23:01.19 | mithro | zecke: somebody to do the boring work, IE fix up the xml description of the protocol |
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| 23:13.29 | lardman | JustinP: ping |
| 23:14.59 | lardman | e-image-core doesn't appear to work (on the c750, though I don;t think that's the issue) |
| 23:15.25 | lardman | I'm presented with a login prompt, and am returned to it every 20-30s or so |
| 23:16.35 | lardman | http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Zaurus/temp/ has dmesg.txt and logread.txt output - looks like a problem with entrance |
| 23:16.54 | lardman | Jan 1 00:13:06 c7x0 daemon.crit entrance: Cannot initialize requested display ":0". Exiting. |
| 23:18.05 | lardman | ~seen JustinP |
| 23:18.09 | ibot | justinp is currently on #oe (21h 28m 59s) #openzaurus (21h 28m 59s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 1h 28m 21s, last said: 'in general, although there are some frontends'. |
| 23:18.40 | lardman | back tomorrow, night-night |
| 23:20.06 | kergoth | ot, but if anyone ever wants to use gdb on a user mode linux, disable CONFIG_MODE_TT |
| 23:20.14 | kergoth | when its enabled, it hoses gdb |
| 23:20.23 | kergoth | burned a few hours on that damn config option :P |
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| 23:42.34 | nacer_ | can i use generic distro ? |
| 23:42.40 | nacer_ | or its justs a example ? |
| 23:42.48 | nacer_ | for build oe |