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| 00:52.41 | [g2] | is file-native-4.16-r1 broken ? |
| 00:53.20 | reenoo | sort of |
| 00:53.40 | reenoo | try wiping out file and any magic files from staging |
| 00:53.40 | emte | reenoo, cant you take djb's approach? |
| 00:53.53 | reenoo | emte: huh? |
| 00:54.00 | emte | wrap another ssl library to "pretend" to be openssl |
| 00:54.44 | reenoo | gnutls is supposed to do that but it's not complete yet |
| 00:54.56 | emte | (the djb ref is in regards to snedmail-qmail) |
| 00:55.03 | emte | sendmail* |
| 00:55.54 | emte | ah, is that what gnutls is for ... i thought it was to replace nssl |
| 00:56.25 | emte | atleast thats the only places i've saw it anyway |
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| 00:58.05 | emte | hmm |
| 00:58.23 | emte | oh wait ... |
| 00:59.02 | emte | hrmm |
| 00:59.55 | emte | when did i comment out my tmp path ... |
| 01:00.58 | reenoo | this box isn't usable with glibc packaging running |
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| 02:12.00 | HopsNBarley | ecc, still around? |
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| 02:58.07 | ecc | HopsNBarley|zzz: guess I missed you ... |
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| 03:19.53 | emte | hrm ... |
| 03:20.10 | emte | okay the flag works but not the test code IN the bb ... |
| 03:20.38 | emte | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0464/3113) [14 %]ERROR: /backupfiles/biohazard/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb:12: unparsed line: 'if ${HOST_NONSYSV} == 1:' while parsing /backupfiles/biohazard/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb |
| 03:20.45 | emte | ideas? |
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| 04:09.14 | leoncamel | good morning .. :) |
| 04:27.21 | emte | moo |
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| 05:10.28 | emte | okay lets try this again ... |
| 05:10.34 | emte | actually |
| 05:10.45 | emte | kergoth, you happen to be awake? |
| 05:11.02 | leoncamel | emte, hmm ? |
| 05:11.24 | emte | trying to insert some test code in a bb file |
| 05:11.27 | champ | anyone have a nokia 770? |
| 05:11.58 | emte | i wish i did |
| 05:12.38 | champ | i'm trying to find out about obtaining root |
| 05:12.53 | champ | i read that it might brick your 770 |
| 05:12.53 | emte | ? |
| 05:12.59 | champ | so i am hesitant to attempt |
| 05:12.59 | emte | ... |
| 05:13.17 | emte | the oe image will brik your device if your root ... |
| 05:13.21 | champ | http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot?highlight=%28root%29 |
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| 05:14.18 | champ | but i have to do it so i can run kismet and nmap and other fun tools |
| 05:14.43 | champ | i am new to linux though and it looks a bit overwhelming |
| 05:20.28 | emte | use sudo |
| 05:20.37 | emte | or patch the tools to ignore root |
| 05:21.06 | champ | i am new to linux what is sudo? and how would i patch the tools to ignore root? |
| 05:22.20 | emte | sudo allows you to exicute commands as root while bing a user |
| 05:23.45 | champ | can i download sudo.deb? |
| 05:23.58 | champ | i cant install .gz files |
| 05:24.09 | champ | i don't have tar or gzip |
| 05:26.03 | Zero_Chaos | champ: follow the directions on that page you posted, and learn about linux. |
| 05:27.00 | johnX | agreed, you might want to play around with Linux on a PC where you're less likely to do permanent damage |
| 05:27.29 | champ | well the 770 was free so..might as well |
| 05:27.30 | champ | ;] |
| 05:27.51 | Zero_Chaos | champ: can I get one for free? |
| 05:28.33 | champ | I don't know ask Nokia |
| 05:28.52 | Zero_Chaos | champ: how did you get one for free? |
| 05:29.55 | emte | grr |
| 05:30.01 | emte | where is the magic ... |
| 05:33.10 | emte | aha |
| 05:33.13 | emte | ... i think |
| 05:35.53 | emte | nope ... |
| 05:36.08 | champ | I have a contact at Nokia |
| 05:36.39 | champ | they are shipping me their $150 wireless foldable bluetooth keyboard on monday |
| 05:36.41 | champ | ;] |
| 05:37.19 | emte | so why dont you provide a n770 for all the devs? |
| 05:37.45 | champ | because i am not god |
| 05:38.46 | emte | well this looks better |
| 05:38.52 | emte | ERROR: invalid syntax (fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb:__anonfunc, line 2) |
| 05:51.58 | emte | is anyone awake ? |
| 05:52.11 | Zero_Chaos | I am, but I can't help you |
| 05:52.20 | emte | lol |
| 05:52.28 | emte | yeah i cant help myself either |
| 05:52.37 | emte | # Compatability for the rare systems not using or having SYSV |
| 05:52.37 | emte | python () { |
| 05:52.37 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.37 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.37 | emte | } |
| 05:52.42 | emte | trying to get that to work |
| 05:53.03 | Zero_Chaos | yeah, I can't help :-) |
| 05:53.23 | emte | hmm |
| 05:53.30 | emte | i should probably append ... |
| 06:08.05 | emte | hmm no clear example if i can or not ... |
| 06:08.43 | emte | maybe someone will wake up soon who can help |
| 06:09.22 | johnX | it really would be nice if everyone lived in one time zone :) |
| 06:09.49 | champ | johnx: why is that? |
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| 06:10.34 | johnX | champ: so that some of us wouldn't have to stay up until all hours of the morning to talk to the rest |
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| 06:16.54 | champ | oh, that makes sense |
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| 06:40.04 | johnX | has anyone found a good RSS reader to use in GPE? |
| 06:42.31 | emte | not sure but i expect yarssr would compile |
| 06:44.36 | johnX | that looks interesting |
| 06:45.08 | emte | i use it to monitor e17 and OE |
| 06:45.36 | johnX | I'm trying to get liferea to compile right now, since I'm partial to an interface that shows the headline and summary in a nice windowed form |
| 06:45.51 | johnX | I might try yarssr after that |
| 06:46.17 | johnX | never hurts to see what will work |
| 06:46.19 | emte | i think i have yarssr because it was gtk :) |
| 06:47.02 | johnX | liferea is GTK as well and can use gtkhtml instead of gecko |
| 06:47.31 | johnX | yarssr may be much lighter :) |
| 06:48.19 | emte | 4.0K /usr/bin/yarssr |
| 06:48.22 | emte | lol |
| 06:48.26 | johnX | wow! |
| 06:48.29 | johnX | that's incredible :P |
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| 08:55.08 | uv1 | Morning all |
| 08:55.40 | johnX | mornin' |
| 08:56.43 | uv1 | Hav problems to get file-native build (zaurus). Th 4.13 version worked. but 4.16 comlains not to find any magic file. Any ideas ? |
| 08:58.29 | johnX | i had the same problem and I cheated my way out of it by using the version of file that my distro provided to do the command that it fails on |
| 08:58.39 | johnX | I have no idea what effect this will have in the long term |
| 08:59.13 | johnX | I heard someone else "fixed" it by erasing their tmp and rebuilding everything |
| 09:00.41 | uv1 | johnX: This is the MS method ;-) |
| 09:01.18 | johnX | heh |
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| 10:07.34 | mickeyl | morning |
| 10:11.10 | zecke | hey |
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| 10:17.24 | koen | hey zecke |
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| 11:15.47 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba5e9634... 10/packages/meta/ (meta-toolchain.bb task-sdk.bb): |
| 11:15.49 | CIA-1 | meta-toolchain: add a .bb to generate a tarball of the SDK toolchain |
| 11:15.51 | CIA-1 | task-sdk: add a task-sdk-bare only containing glibc bits |
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| 12:12.58 | leoncamel | hi, folks . Is there anybody use u-boot for pxa27x board ? |
| 12:13.11 | chameleon | hi, I setup an oe build environment to build openzaurus for my SL5600, it builds kernel 2.4.18 and 2.6.15 where can i disable building the 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 12:14.16 | mickeyl | this is odd, virtual/kernel should point to _one_, not two kernels |
| 12:16.22 | chameleon | hmm, i did a monoton pull this morning |
| 12:16.38 | chameleon | where is virtual/kernel defined? |
| 12:18.30 | mickeyl | you are using the oz354fam083 branch, are you ? |
| 12:18.38 | mickeyl | virtual/kernel is defined in the $MACHINE.conf |
| 12:19.38 | chameleon | i did a pull for org.openembedded.dev |
| 12:20.57 | mickeyl | if you're interested in building an openzaurus release, i recommend using the branch |
| 12:22.15 | chameleon | the poodle.conf states KERNEL_VERSION ?= "2.4", should I change that to KERNEL_VERSION = "2.4" |
| 12:22.32 | reenoo | morning |
| 12:23.40 | chameleon | ok, the build was fine, the problem arise when i tried building fbvncserver, which needs the kernel config, which is for 2.6 instead of 2.4 |
| 12:23.48 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 12:24.15 | reenoo | hi koen |
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| 12:38.40 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8cc816cb... 10/packages/linux/ep93xx-kernel/defconfig: ep93xx-kernel: update defconfig |
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| 12:40.53 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rffdd8d95... 10/packages/dropbear/ (dropbear_0.45.bb dropbear_0.46.bb dropbear_0.47.bb): dropbear: never apply allow-nopw.patch for DISTRO=familiar |
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| 13:40.13 | blib | hello all |
| 13:40.38 | blib | Did any one tried to build nylon distro lately with OE? |
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| 13:43.50 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 13:43.56 | pH5 | hey koen |
| 13:44.01 | mickeyl | i don't think so. nylon is a bit in flux since the last maintainer started a world trip. someone else has picked up this task, but i'm sure he would be glad to accept patches as well |
| 13:44.07 | koen | hrm, that gcc 4.1 .bb isn't working |
| 13:51.50 | blib | mickeI, may be you know tag that I can try to build against? |
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| 13:53.36 | mickeyl | blib: no, i have no idea. just try a build and lets see what problems you have |
| 13:55.08 | blib | it say that it cant' find linux-mtx-1 package, but it is there. So don't even know where to start with that |
| 14:00.14 | mickeyl | hmm, can't help atm. since i'm busy doing oz builds, but how 'bout sending the exact chain of commands plus the error message to oe@handhelds.org? the new nylon maintainer is supposed to read that list as well |
| 14:01.49 | blib | ok |
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| 14:13.29 | Leon | All: any news on the OeNI meeting? |
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| 14:16.52 | Bernardo | hi |
| 14:17.04 | pH5 | hi Bernardo |
| 14:17.12 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rfb9d7b21... 10/conf/distro/familiar-unstable.conf: familiar-unstable: reinstate PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc* one more time. |
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| 14:24.11 | alan|home | hi all |
| 14:24.21 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rc3f657e2... 10/conf/distro/familiar.conf: familiar: set MAINTAINER and ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION. |
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| 14:36.08 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rd4c53927... 10/packages/neon/neon_0.24.7.bb: neon: don't link against openssl for licensing reasons. inherit binconfig rather than duplocating code. |
| 14:36.27 | reenoo | duplocating |
| 14:36.38 | reenoo | ~lart typos |
| 14:37.49 | Bernardo | guys, trying to build a module, but "inherit module" seems to be switching into the kernel dir before doing the make, and I want the make to be done in the package dir |
| 14:38.19 | Bernardo | reenoo: so https support in neon is off-limits? |
| 14:40.10 | Bernardo | reenoo: also, I didn't inherit binconfig in my patch for oz354 for the reasons I put on the bug report |
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| 14:43.18 | reenoo | Bernardo: sounds like you want to fix subversion's configury |
| 14:43.37 | Bernardo | reenoo: I wanted to, but not enough time or expertise... :) |
| 14:44.44 | Bernardo | I just proposed bug #732 after getting subversion to work with https for a friend that was leaving to the usa and wanted to use his collie to build some stuff |
| 14:44.59 | Bernardo | I know it's a quick'n'dirty hack |
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| 14:49.07 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:49.16 | Bernardo | hi chouimat |
| 14:49.34 | chouimat | ROFL http://www.askmen.com/jokes/2006_mar/mar11.html |
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| 15:44.25 | RP | morning all |
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| 15:46.19 | pH5 | hi RP |
| 15:48.55 | koen | hey RP |
| 15:51.57 | Bernardo | hi RP |
| 15:52.18 | Bernardo | can any of you guys tell me what is the recommended way to add stuff to modules.conf? |
| 15:52.38 | Bernardo | the same way hostap-modules adds to pcmcia-cs.conf, in install? |
| 15:52.39 | koen | let update-modules handle it |
| 15:52.44 | RP | I found the colour problem under the qemu images |
| 15:52.49 | koen | RP: yay! |
| 15:52.52 | koen | RP: and a fix? |
| 15:53.33 | RP | koen: I have a fix. It was a matchbox issue - just awaiting approval to commit it. |
| 15:53.43 | koen | heh |
| 15:54.06 | koen | I wonder if that fixes florian's MB problem on his 15bit sgi as well |
| 15:56.00 | RP | koen: I certainly have a good idea of where any 15bpp problems would be |
| 15:56.53 | RP | koen: This "fix" just gets the reversed R and B case working for now until we can fix the code properly... |
| 15:57.05 | RP | for the Angstrom site? |
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| 15:57.23 | koen | angstrom and others |
| 15:57.53 | RP | I can do php, html and sql. My design skills aren't good though ;-) |
| 15:58.13 | Bernardo | koen: ok, thanks |
| 16:12.27 | pH5 | I needed this patch to build xserver-kdrive_20050207 against X11R7.0 xlibs: http://en.pastebin.ca/45241 |
| 16:12.48 | pH5 | Can I drop this and the X11R7 xlibs into org.oe.dev tomorrow? |
| 16:13.16 | leoncamel | hmm, I got a question: At first, I build a bootstrap-image. The gcc-cross will use "gcc-cross-3.4.4-initial". After that, I bitbake LAB-kernel, The gcc-cross will be "gcc-cross-3.4.4_kernel-3.4.4". |
| 16:13.30 | koen | pH5: send a mail to oe@ saying "this is going in tomorrow" |
| 16:13.52 | RP | pH5: Is this backwards compatible? |
| 16:13.53 | koen | leoncamel: yes, it build a seperate gcc to build the kernel |
| 16:14.10 | RP | pH5: (The xserver patch I mean) |
| 16:14.18 | leoncamel | Then, I bitbake mplayer, what the gcc-cross will be ? gcc-cross-initial or gcc-cross-3.4.4_kernel-3.4.4 ? |
| 16:14.31 | koen | neither |
| 16:14.43 | koen | gcc-cross-initial is only used to build glibc |
| 16:15.11 | leoncamel | koen, which gcc-cross will use then ? |
| 16:15.26 | RP | pH5: I'm certainly fine with the X11R7 libs. Tieing the old xserver to the new libs does worry me slightly though |
| 16:15.29 | koen | gcc-cross-3.4.4 (depending on your distro) |
| 16:16.06 | pH5 | RP: good point, I'll have to try this. |
| 16:16.26 | pH5 | RP: the _cvs version works flawlessly though. perhaps we should just make a new snapshot? |
| 16:16.28 | leoncamel | koen, So, hmm, ok. The gcc-3.4.4_kernel-3.4.4 is only for building kernel ? |
| 16:16.44 | koen | leoncamel: yes, some kernels are picky about the compiler |
| 16:17.18 | RP | pH5: That would be better. Also feel free to add the patch for that version as I for one might fine it useful but just have it commented out in the .bb for now. |
| 16:17.53 | leoncamel | koen, which gcc-cross will put into tmp/cross/bin then ? gcc-cross-3.4.4 ? |
| 16:18.10 | RP | pH5: Which device did you test the xserver on btw? |
| 16:18.28 | pH5 | hx4700, that's the only one I have... |
| 16:19.59 | RP | pH5: ok. I should be able to test on the Zaurus but not soon :-/ |
| 16:24.17 | pH5 | RP: great. I'll write a warning to oe@ |
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| 16:30.46 | CIA-1 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ra951b187... 10/packages/tuxbox/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tuxbox-tuxtxt-32bpp: fix unsigned char, fix input device detection, bump PR |
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| 17:50.32 | HopsNBarley | koen, while we are on the gcc-cross/glibc topic, how is the version picked? I see PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc in the various confs. I set this in my generic.conf, but an older version gets picked. |
| 17:51.17 | emte | if you override it in your local.conf it will use that |
| 17:51.36 | emte | or machine or distro as well i belive |
| 17:52.21 | HopsNBarley | lemme check - i don't think it appears in any other file that gets read... |
| 17:52.24 | koen | emte: generic.conf is in conf/distro :) |
| 17:53.12 | emte | koen, yeah but can you use it with the "non-version" bitbake code now? |
| 17:53.20 | emte | er version-only |
| 17:54.11 | HopsNBarley | nope, PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc only appears in the generic.conf. wierd. |
| 17:54.33 | koen | emte: the version only code is only familiar, angstrom and OZ |
| 17:54.41 | emte | ah |
| 17:54.54 | emte | thought it was OE-wide |
| 17:55.01 | koen | not yet |
| 17:55.01 | HopsNBarley | is some other package specifically naming a dependency on the older version? |
| 17:55.12 | koen | RP's sanity.conf will do that |
| 17:55.46 | emte | HopsNBarley, does the glibc bitbake your trying to call have a bb file? |
| 17:57.01 | HopsNBarley | emte, i'm trying to build a ppc toolchain with bitbake virtual/powerpc-linux-gcc. |
| 17:57.08 | HopsNBarley | yeah, it's this one: 2.3.2+cvs20040726 |
| 17:57.15 | koen | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2786595347.html |
| 17:57.27 | koen | if only it had a better screen |
| 17:57.41 | koen | HopsNBarley: there's a bug in recent bitbake about selectors |
| 17:57.52 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rc110c77d... 10/packages/dropbear/ (4 files): dropbear: never apply allow-nopw.patch for DISTRO=familiar |
| 17:58.01 | koen | HopsNBarley: as a workaround remove all other glibc .bbs |
| 17:58.20 | HopsNBarley | koen, great idea. |
| 17:59.08 | emte | koen, while i think about it, you know where to look for more docs on trying to "inject" python test code into bb metafiles? |
| 17:59.39 | koen | emte: nope, sorry |
| 18:00.01 | koen | apart from the usual 'over 3k examples' |
| 18:00.53 | emte | koen, yeah, i just havent git it to quite work |
| 18:00.56 | emte | got* |
| 18:02.32 | emte | http://oe.pastebin.com/596542 can you see my problem? |
| 18:06.00 | emte | i think my problem is with the bb.data.setVar('EXTRA_OECONF', ' --with-ipc=tcp --program-prefix= ', d) line |
| 18:06.41 | CIA-1 | 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rdfcb7791... 10/packages/dropbear/dropbear.inc: dropbear: fix typo in last commit |
| 18:08.09 | emte | grr stupid power ... worst thing about the power doing out is that my system rebooted with a new kernel and now my sounds card doesnt behave again :( |
| 18:08.15 | emte | going* |
| 18:12.15 | emte | aha i think i found my problem :) |
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| 18:14.34 | zecke | hey |
| 18:14.49 | zecke | my NSLU2 arrived, tomorrow I will have the time to brick it |
| 18:15.23 | emte | congrats |
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| 18:18.04 | emte | okay so i just checked and the gloabal variable IS getting passed but EXTRA_OECONF is not getting modified ... therefore my test is failing ... |
| 18:20.32 | zecke | emte: is it overwritten later? |
| 18:21.33 | emte | trying to find out now |
| 18:21.48 | emte | just doing some prints to check what i expect |
| 18:22.21 | emte | well its behaving |
| 18:22.23 | emte | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0464/3113) [14 %]1 |
| 18:22.23 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.33 | emte | so it must be getting overridden |
| 18:23.38 | emte | zecke, this is what i have currently |
| 18:23.41 | emte | http://oe.pastebin.com/596570 |
| 18:24.43 | emte | including both my print tests |
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| 18:25.27 | emte | hmm i wonder ... |
| 18:27.11 | emte | the "inherit autotools" is the only line in the non-native bb file, will that override the native settings? |
| 18:27.32 | HopsNBarley | have you traced all the open calls? I found this pretty helpful in understanding/diagnosing what's going on in bitbake |
| 18:28.14 | zecke | emte: I just grepped the classes and none should overwrite the EXTRA_OECONF variable |
| 18:28.27 | zecke | emte: try __anonfunc instead of python() (should be the same though) |
| 18:28.34 | emte | hmm |
| 18:28.40 | zecke | emte: what does the shell say if you peek into the variable? |
| 18:28.53 | emte | will do, i am just trying the function in both files now |
| 18:29.06 | emte | emte NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0464/3113) [14 %]1 |
| 18:29.06 | emte | emte --with-ipc=tcp --program-prefix= |
| 18:29.10 | emte | as i would expect |
| 18:29.32 | emte | the "1" is the setting in my local.conf |
| 18:29.49 | emte | so that part behaves and so does the function |
| 18:30.45 | emte | and the HOST_NONSYSV i have set to default "0" in the bitbake.conf |
| 18:30.51 | emte | for compatability |
| 18:32.35 | emte | aha! |
| 18:32.38 | emte | it loves me |
| 18:33.05 | emte | btw, what does "--program-prefix= " do? |
| 18:33.16 | zecke | emte: you specified it? |
| 18:33.25 | zecke | ' ' gets prepended to fakeroot |
| 18:33.45 | emte | zecke, yes i did |
| 18:33.47 | zecke | so it is ' fakeroot' e.g. you can use it to prefix a gcc with arm-linux- ;) |
| 18:33.56 | emte | ah |
| 18:34.55 | emte | it seems i have to have the function in the called bb as well |
| 18:35.01 | emte | or that is how it just worked |
| 18:36.02 | emte | so, do i submit all three files to bugtracker or a patch for all three? |
| 18:37.45 | zecke | patch |
| 18:38.12 | emte | k |
| 18:39.19 | emte | fakeroot shouldnt need a PR bump from this because i never actually changed fakeroot , correct? |
| 18:42.23 | zecke | Bernardo: the kernel gcc is not 2.95? (at least not set as this) |
| 18:44.01 | emte | hrm ... bad function bad! |
| 18:46.15 | leoncamel | hi, folks. How can I create a nfsroot for target ? well, the tmp/rootfs load for building rootfs images. And HOW can I want setup a nfs root for target? |
| 18:47.09 | RP | hi zecke |
| 18:47.30 | RP | zecke: I finally found the colour problem under qemu. Matchbox bug :) |
| 18:48.40 | CIA-1 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5de21ce1... 10/packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.48.bb: dropbear: add 0.48 - this time for sure |
| 18:51.27 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r97dd2ea8... 10/packages/binutils/ (10 files in 2 dirs): add binutils 2.6.91.0.6 |
| 18:58.29 | emte | i think i got it :) |
| 18:58.38 | emte | needed a pair of single quotes |
| 19:04.53 | emte | woohoo test 3 works :) |
| 19:05.13 | emte | time for some -nurding :) |
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| 19:32.41 | zecke | RP: hehe |
| 19:32.53 | zecke | RP: did you make mallum release a 1.0.1 yet? |
| 19:33.09 | zecke | enough writing for now, time to brick the NSLU2 |
| 19:35.16 | koen | zecke: yo can even brick it over ethernet! |
| 19:35.21 | koen | it was never so easy ;) |
| 19:35.56 | zecke | koen: I hope it can read and write HFS+ media |
| 19:36.11 | koen | if 2.6.15 can, the nslu2 can too |
| 19:39.53 | koen | zecke: http://www.macosx.nl/?p=showarticle&art_id=2247 |
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| 19:48.06 | zecke | koen: I have to try that PDF thing |
| 19:48.15 | zecke | koen: I'm annoyed I can't zoom in safari |
| 19:48.25 | koen | that SafariSpeed thing is also great |
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| 20:12.45 | RP | zecke: not yet :) |
| 20:13.33 | RP | Why is it me+OE+ext3 = damaged partitions? :-/ |
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| 20:16.56 | koen|tv | because ext3 sucks |
| 20:17.03 | koen|tv | xfs hasn't let me down yet |
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| 20:18.19 | zecke | koen|tv: I have seen all Linux FS's fail |
| 20:18.22 | emte | yup xfs loves me |
| 20:18.33 | emte | even after the power fail last night |
| 20:18.40 | koen|tv | zecke: yeah, I'd love to use zfs |
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| 20:18.58 | zecke | koen|tv: have you had redboot access from OSX? |
| 20:20.22 | koen|tv | once I get the pl2303 osx driver working, yes |
| 20:20.39 | koen|tv | ~lart bazaar |
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| 20:23.11 | zecke | koen|tv: oh you haven't tried over ethernet? |
| 20:23.37 | koen|tv | zecke: no, I have a linux box ready for stuff like that |
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| 20:27.03 | RP | koen|tv: I tried xfs and I find that easier to break :-/ |
| 20:28.35 | koen|tv | lets hope for zfs support in linux :) |
| 20:29.52 | koen|tv | it will confuse the hell out of zaurus users ;) |
| 20:33.27 | pb_ | zecke: mm, I don't think I've ever seen ext3 fail in a serious way. XFS does seem to be a bit of a liability, though. |
| 20:33.40 | NAiL | I've had severe problems with XFS and powerfailures |
| 20:34.00 | koen|tv | NAiL: I have a ups for that :) |
| 20:34.04 | NAiL | all open files were overwritten with ^@ when the power went out. |
| 20:34.18 | NAiL | (All files written to) |
| 20:34.39 | pb_ | not sure what other file systems are worth trying. Has anybody used JFS? |
| 20:37.02 | zecke | pb_: I have seen ext3 fail on syscall fuzzinh |
| 20:37.24 | pb_ | zecke: I'm not sure I know what "syscall fuzzinh" is, but it sounds eleet. |
| 20:37.29 | zecke | pb_: which is nothing one does normally though :) |
| 20:37.47 | zecke | pb_: make syscalls with weird arguments |
| 20:37.53 | pb_ | oh right |
| 20:37.58 | zecke | pb_: e.g. let Opie run |
| 20:38.16 | zecke | nothing you would normally do :) |
| 20:38.28 | pb_ | indeed |
| 20:38.43 | pb_ | I guess I feel that you get what you deserve in that case :-} |
| 20:39.21 | jnc | pb_: JFS loses the speed contest for most things you'd use a FS for |
| 20:39.37 | jnc | it is reportedly very stable though |
| 20:39.52 | pb_ | ah, right |
| 20:40.27 | jnc | hey guys, how would i make wpa-supplicant in the rootfs for openzaurus-unstable image updated to the new version; it now links against gnutls |
| 20:40.30 | jnc | and works |
| 20:40.32 | jnc | i've used it successfully |
| 20:40.49 | pb_ | the other reasons I gave up on xfs were that grub hates it, and the online resizing thing can only grow partitions, not shrink them |
| 20:40.51 | jnc | currently there is some werid wpa-supplicant-nossl package, i would like to depreciate that entirely |
| 20:41.09 | zecke | jnc: why? |
| 20:41.09 | pb_ | send patches to bugzilla, I guess |
| 20:41.29 | zecke | jnc: I guess ssl is implemented with OpenSSL? |
| 20:41.42 | pb_ | I'm not sure why you have that antipathy to wpa-supplicant-nossl though. There are some folks who might not want to install any tls library. |
| 20:42.01 | jnc | zecke: it was, gnutls is in the rootfs for many of those images, so i think supporting openssl in wpa-supplicant is pointless when gnutls works |
| 20:42.13 | zecke | pb_: Thread Locale Storage? ;) |
| 20:42.16 | jnc | pb_: gnutls is already in many images |
| 20:42.18 | pb_ | as it happens, for gpe we already ship gnutls in the images, so ssl support in the supplicant would come for free, but the Opie crew might balk at installing a TLS library. especially one whose name starts with g. |
| 20:42.19 | jnc | no no |
| 20:42.29 | jnc | TLS is a term for SSL stuff, not thread local storage |
| 20:42.38 | zecke | I know :) |
| 20:42.41 | pb_ | jnc: many images, but not all of them |
| 20:42.50 | zecke | pb_: jnc : I only mind OpenSSL |
| 20:42.51 | jnc | okay sure |
| 20:42.58 | pb_ | I don't really understand what would be gained by removing the option to not have tls. |
| 20:43.12 | jnc | but the wpa-supplicant-nossl that is in there does not work at all with the 2.6 kernel |
| 20:43.17 | jnc | and we are targetting 2.6 aren't we? |
| 20:43.38 | emte | doesnt the wpa-supplicant-nossl end up with a crippled package taht cannot auth ? |
| 20:43.48 | jnc | exactly |
| 20:43.50 | pb_ | jnc: I'm not sure who "we" is in that context. |
| 20:44.06 | jnc | pb_: RP mentioned something about completely depreciating all 2.4.x kernels |
| 20:44.22 | pb_ | jnc: I suppose he must have been drinking. |
| 20:44.27 | emte | jnc, i doubt that will happen for a very long time |
| 20:44.29 | jnc | he may have been thinking of OZ, but i thought it was in the context of all distros in OE |
| 20:45.08 | jnc | anyhow wpa-supplicant-nossl is broken either way AFAIK |
| 20:45.13 | emte | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HandheldsDevices_2fh3600 |
| 20:45.25 | emte | is the status page for the h36 2.6 kernel |
| 20:45.30 | pb_ | RP is welcome to deprec(i)ate the 2.4 kernels as much as he likes in a personal capacity, of course, but there are some platforms that are still using 2.4 and will probably continue to do so for a while yet. |
| 20:45.51 | RP | That is a slight misquote :) |
| 20:45.57 | jnc | ah okay |
| 20:46.03 | jnc | RP: tell me what you meant again? |
| 20:46.04 | emte | lol |
| 20:46.29 | emte | i'll submit my non-sysv stuff later today |
| 20:46.48 | zecke | emte: what are you using instead? init-ng? |
| 20:47.18 | RP | I said that a number of zaurus 2.4 kernels are end of life and only 2.6 will be developed in future for the models c7x0, akita, spitz and borzoi, plus probably tosa |
| 20:48.07 | jnc | oh okay, my mistake |
| 20:48.22 | jnc | i'm really asking what you guys think about this wpa-supplicant thing |
| 20:48.32 | koen|tv | jnc: did you see the gcc 4.1.0 .bb on the mailinglist? |
| 20:48.36 | RP | Also, it was mentioned that angstrom might be 2.6 only at first |
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| 20:48.51 | jnc | koen|tv: i haven't yet subscribed to the ML, i.e. i didn't see where to do that |
| 20:49.04 | koen|tv | RP: till 2.4 eabi patches surface it will be 2.6 only |
| 20:49.54 | RP | jnc: As long as you make sure the licencing issue is ok, I can't see a problem with some new wpa-supplicant packages and changing the image depends to use them where appropriate |
| 20:49.58 | koen|tv | jnc: http://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/oe |
| 20:49.59 | RP | koen|tv: exactly |
| 20:50.25 | koen|tv | jnc: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733 |
| 20:50.36 | koen|tv | RP: and eabi is also armv5 only at the moment |
| 20:50.49 | jnc | thanks koen |
| 20:52.13 | jnc | koen|tv: FYI the ssl cert for "localhost.tqghQq" expired on 12/06/2005 |
| 20:57.24 | zecke | anyone know where I can get the upslug from? |
| 20:57.28 | zecke | sf.net is broken ATM |
| 20:58.08 | RP | pb_: Does the collections handling in bitbake cover class/*.bbclass files? |
| 20:58.23 | koen|tv | zecke: http://pdo.debian.net/testing/otherosfs/upslug2 |
| 21:00.11 | zecke | RP: yes |
| 21:00.23 | zecke | RP: it also covers conf |
| 21:00.30 | zecke | RP: site, etc... |
| 21:01.29 | RP | zecke: thanks, that makes sense, I just wanted to confirm |
| 21:02.12 | zecke | RP: I had a hard time creating the right regular expressions at first |
| 21:02.23 | zecke | RP: do you suffer from the same problem? |
| 21:04.24 | RP | zecke: I'll find out if I have it right shortly :) |
| 21:04.55 | RP | zecke: I'm going by what the bitbake manual says and it seems quite clear so hopefully its just going to work |
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| 21:25.56 | blib | for some reason when I try to build -native package during the build bitbake uses include files from target platform instead of host platform. How can I debug it? |
| 21:35.32 | zecke | blib: change into the workdir |
| 21:35.47 | zecke | blib: look at the log files, config.log etc |
| 21:46.57 | hrw | hi |
| 21:47.03 | koen|tv | hey hrw |
| 21:47.58 | hrw | RP: where did you hide linux-openzaurus_git.bb? |
| 21:48.24 | koen|tv | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/linux-openzaurus_git.bb |
| 21:48.56 | hrw | thx |
| 21:58.27 | hrw | NOTE: package collie26-image-1.0: started |
| 22:05.26 | jnc | what is openmn |
| 22:05.32 | jnc | ?$ |
| 22:06.57 | hrw | distro |
| 22:07.27 | jnc | oh hmm |
| 22:07.48 | hrw | #@DESCRIPTION: Destribution for Devices produced by M&N Solutions GmbH, Germany, Rosbach |
| 22:08.38 | hrw | fetching zaurus.git tree... |
| 22:08.51 | koen|tv | jnc: Bero also got glibc 2.4 working |
| 22:08.57 | jnc | interesting |
| 22:09.11 | koen | so we'll have all the necessary bits for EABI soon(TM) |
| 22:09.20 | jnc | Real Soon Now (TM) |
| 22:09.28 | koen | where 'working' read 'compiling' |
| 22:09.58 | jnc | i'm still very strongly for seperating out the SDK from the tree |
| 22:10.15 | zecke | jnc: use different BBFILES? |
| 22:10.22 | jnc | more than that |
| 22:10.27 | jnc | make the SDK a distro |
| 22:10.30 | zecke | whatever :) |
| 22:10.58 | jnc | you build the SDK, then you change the configs to point at the SDK as a pre-built verison of the tools needed to compile |
| 22:11.32 | jnc | combining development with quality assurance is pretty much impossible in the current configuration |
| 22:11.49 | koen | put staging under package management control! |
| 22:11.50 | zecke | ? |
| 22:12.15 | zecke | jnc: ah hand having two different trees will magically increase quality? |
| 22:12.33 | jnc | it will make it easy to keep the SDK from moving around too much |
| 22:12.36 | zecke | jnc: in that case I could write a bucket sort like tool to split up the tree |
| 22:12.47 | hrw | ~lart git fetcher for lack of progress info |
| 22:12.49 | jnc | plus it would speed up some of this |
| 22:12.59 | zecke | jnc: PREFERRED_VERSION, PROVIDER and BBFILES are enough for that |
| 22:13.00 | jnc | not by much, but the complaint i hear is that OE is too slow |
| 22:13.04 | zecke | jnc: seriously |
| 22:13.28 | reenoo | jnc: I recommend you try to understand how OE works and what the relevant design decisions where |
| 22:13.33 | jnc | hm |
| 22:13.38 | hrw | jnc: bitbake recipes parser is slow |
| 22:13.40 | zecke | jnc: what has speed to do with SDK? |
| 22:13.42 | reenoo | were even |
| 22:13.56 | zecke | jnc: I thought we talk about quality? |
| 22:14.04 | zecke | :) |
| 22:14.16 | jnc | zecke: how can i send you my SDK to use for building your OE tree? |
| 22:14.18 | jnc | i am on amd64 |
| 22:14.20 | zecke | reenoo: how can I thank you for your review? |
| 22:14.28 | jnc | are you on amd64? |
| 22:14.31 | reenoo | zecke: which review? |
| 22:14.42 | zecke | reenoo: you do on the oe commit mailinglist |
| 22:15.06 | reenoo | zecke: ah heh |
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| 22:15.27 | reenoo | zecke: how about unborking bitbake's current dependecy issues? ;) |
| 22:15.29 | zecke | jnc: dunno, maybe by getting me an AMD64? |
| 22:15.35 | jnc | zecke: no. |
| 22:15.46 | reenoo | s/dependecy/dependecy handling/ |
| 22:15.47 | jnc | how would i use the current setup, and build you an SDK for your platform |
| 22:15.58 | zecke | reenoo: that is NP complete I guess, I'm in the process of building a gadget to prove that |
| 22:16.18 | zecke | jnc: 1. select which licenses you want to distribute |
| 22:16.19 | jnc | and by platform i meant build platform |
| 22:16.47 | zecke | jnc: 2. build a OE meta-sdk in a lsb environment |
| 22:16.54 | zecke | jnc: 3. wait |
| 22:17.06 | zecke | jnc: 4. have a SDK that works on any lsb compilant system |
| 22:17.12 | jnc | ... |
| 22:17.15 | jnc | for any arch? |
| 22:17.20 | hrw | cu |
| 22:17.27 | zecke | jnc: for any lsb compilant system |
| 22:17.32 | koen | heh |
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| 22:17.41 | koen | has the lsb stopped being a farce? |
| 22:17.53 | reenoo | no, it still is |
| 22:18.02 | zecke | koen: well it has at least some ABIs defined :} |
| 22:18.03 | reenoo | their testsuite that is |
| 22:18.06 | RP | Aha. The symlinks in my paths are breaking everything! The ibot logs are useful :) |
| 22:18.16 | koen | RP: libtool? |
| 22:18.17 | jnc | what does lsb compliant mean... that you build one binary and it magically works on any arch, now? |
| 22:18.26 | jnc | i thought LSB was a layout for the fs |
| 22:18.36 | zecke | jnc: well lsb is IA-32 only |
| 22:18.40 | jnc | yeah |
| 22:18.45 | zecke | jnc: so it works on any lsb compilant distribution |
| 22:18.57 | zecke | jnc: well nobody else standardized the ABI on different CPUs |
| 22:19.02 | jnc | okay so you're not even talking about the same thing |
| 22:19.03 | RP | koen: correct |
| 22:19.24 | zecke | jnc: well I'm saying what is possible on Linux/ELF |
| 22:19.29 | jnc | i'm talking about building an SDK for a given build platform from a single build machine |
| 22:19.36 | zecke | jnc: on OSX/GnuStep you could create FAT binaries |
| 22:19.52 | jnc | so we could set a build machine to build the SDK for many types of build host archs |
| 22:19.54 | zecke | jnc: but that is not even in the focus on OE |
| 22:19.58 | koen | zecke: FAT is old, Universal is all the rage now |
| 22:20.03 | jnc | cross compiling is not the focus? |
| 22:20.18 | zecke | jnc: creating one binary for all host systems |
| 22:20.31 | jnc | why would you create one binary for all host systems |
| 22:20.36 | zecke | jnc: and I think I personally do not want to distribute prebuild OE toolchains |
| 22:20.45 | zecke | jnc: how else should it run on all systems? |
| 22:20.53 | reenoo | jnc: cross compiling cross toolchains is going to break horribly given that nobody ever does that |
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| 22:21.27 | jnc | reenoo: debian does that a lot, so i don't know what you get that nobody does it |
| 22:21.37 | reenoo | jnc: ?? |
| 22:21.51 | jnc | debian is a pretty huge project, and the build system allows for exactly that sort of thing |
| 22:21.53 | reenoo | jnc: you do realize that you're talking nonsense don't you? |
| 22:22.00 | jnc | perhaps |
| 22:22.03 | jnc | it makes sense to me |
| 22:22.14 | reenoo | debian does native builds on all supported archs |
| 22:22.32 | koen | which is why the armeb port is taking months |
| 22:22.59 | jnc | that's a policy thing though, much of say, 68k development, is cross-compiled from other faster machines |
| 22:23.33 | jnc | ack... i just remembered, 68k is not exactly supported in etch :/ |
| 22:23.54 | koen | wookeys emdebian talk raises some problems with debian's policy |
| 22:24.40 | reenoo | jnc: that's a different story, you proposed cross compiling $any->$any toolchains on the same build box |
| 22:25.05 | jnc | it confuses me why you wouldn't build a single toolchain package for a given arch, for all non-toolchain developers to use |
| 22:25.19 | jnc | to make sure everyone is reporting against the same thing exactly |
| 22:26.53 | koen | jnc: putting staging/ and cross/ under package management would be a nice first step to achieve that goal |
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| 22:27.51 | jnc | hm .. |
| 22:29.11 | zecke | reenoo: hmm RP and me are working on it... we need more input first though |
| 22:33.01 | RP | jnc: This is something we'd like to give the option of in future. The solution is to put staging under package control. This is planned but needs a lot of careful thought and work |
| 22:33.06 | jnc | any objections to overwriting the default wpa-supplicant.conf file with something vastly more simple? |
| 22:33.39 | RP | jnc: What breaks as a result of that change? |
| 22:33.52 | jnc | nothing really, actually it should work more often |
| 22:33.57 | jnc | that's why i want to change it |
| 22:34.12 | jnc | currently the default wpa-supplicant.conf does not work |
| 22:34.33 | jnc | i.e. if you try to associate with an access point, and the SSID is 'example', it won't work. |
| 22:34.39 | jnc | not likely |
| 22:35.05 | RP | It certainly needs some attention |
| 22:35.09 | jnc | i propose to change it so that by default, unless you change the config file, wpa-supplicant.conf will be set up such that it will not do anything in any case, allowing WEP to work |
| 22:35.33 | jnc | also changing it so that update_config=1 by default |
| 22:36.03 | RP | I'd mention the changes on oe@ maybe linking to a patch. If nobody complains, commit it |
| 22:36.10 | jnc | hmm. |
| 22:55.46 | jnc | after this push. |
| 22:57.10 | CIA-1 | 03jnc 07org.oe.dev * r53e14a99... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:57.12 | CIA-1 | WPA Supplicant updates, and inclusion of version 0.5.1 for distros with gnutls |
| 22:57.14 | CIA-1 | already being built. Resolves licensing issues, and non-working supplicant |
| 22:57.16 | CIA-1 | issues for those with 2.6/2.4 kernels. Report breakage to Eric (jnc). |
| 23:02.59 | zecke | jnc: just to understand it, you just discarded RP's comment and pushed? |
| 23:06.23 | HopsNBarley | see ya'll next week. gotta do actual real work in san fran this week. |
| 23:10.52 | AwayNAiL | jnc: the latest wpa-supplicant... Does it include the zd1211-patches I added earlier? |
| 23:19.59 | NAiL | ah, it doesn't. Good |
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| 23:39.51 | CIA-1 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8df12327... 10/packages/zd1211/ (zd1211-r59/makefile-unslung.patch zd1211_r59.bb): zd1211: Fixup for Unslung 2.4-kernel |
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| 23:59.52 | reenoo | 'night all |