| 00:16.51 | katossi | this is not possible, diet-x11 has problems again with patches |
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| 00:24.16 | JustinP | I just did a build fron scratch and diet-x11 definately worked... |
| 00:26.30 | katossi | I had to do the same thing with xim.patch that with the other ones |
| 00:26.52 | katossi | move it to xlibs/files/ |
| 00:26.57 | katossi | and then it works |
| 00:42.41 | JustinP | perhaps you're building the Xorg7 version of x? |
| 00:47.44 | katossi | don't know |
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| 00:51.44 | katossi | maybe it's required by dillo or gpsdrive |
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| 01:39.38 | reenoo | katossi: please make sure your OE tree is up to date and file bugs if you still encounter any issues. |
| 01:39.41 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 01:40.22 | katossi | reenoo: night and yes it's most of the times updated |
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| 03:13.13 | CIA-1 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r2621e7a7... 10/conf/distro/unslung.conf: Unslung: unslung.conf, DISTRO_VERSION is now 6.7-beta |
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| 03:52.36 | jnc | i'm brainstorming about what to do with embedded meta-distro |
| 03:56.16 | leoncamel | hmm, I build toolchains with linux-2.6.11-glibc-hdr, and the kernel is linux-2.4.20. Is it right ? |
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| 03:59.15 | jnc | not sure |
| 03:59.23 | jnc | depends on your distro setting and kernel version |
| 04:03.02 | leoncamel | hmm, I want setup a OE environment for a linux-2.4 kernel. but the package glibc-linux-header only provided linux-2.6.8-hdr .. |
| 04:03.21 | leoncamel | hmm, what shall I do to setup that environment ? |
| 04:04.54 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:05.04 | JustinP | leoncamel: OE will build the 2.4 kernel for you fine |
| 04:05.21 | JustinP | leoncamel: just make sure to install the gcc 2.95 arm package |
| 04:06.40 | leoncamel | JustinP, I want to build a gcc-3.[34] and binuitls-2.15(or more) with "glibc-linux-header 2.4". |
| 04:07.05 | JustinP | again....? |
| 04:07.18 | JustinP | just set up OE, tell it you want kernel 2.4, and build... |
| 04:07.33 | leoncamel | JustinP, but, I search the package directory, and the linux-libc-header only provided linux-libc-headers-2.6.8.1.bb.. |
| 04:07.53 | JustinP | just BUILD IT! |
| 04:07.55 | JustinP | it works |
| 04:08.03 | leoncamel | JustinP, hmm, you mean the "KERNEL="2.4"" in local.conf ? |
| 04:08.07 | JustinP | yes |
| 04:08.28 | leoncamel | ok. thanks . |
| 04:09.48 | leoncamel | hmm, not really. |
| 04:09.56 | Zero_Chaos | what is good sftp client for zaurus? command line or opie.... |
| 04:10.10 | leoncamel | JustinP, I already set that option for linux-2.4. |
| 04:12.06 | leoncamel | JustinP, but I find the "iwmmxt-linux/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r1".. |
| 04:12.20 | leoncamel | Hmm, wait, I am confused. |
| 04:12.46 | leoncamel | do we need linux-headers while building cross-gcc ? |
| 04:14.39 | JustinP | just let it build |
| 04:15.02 | JustinP | stop looking, OE knows better than you what it needs |
| 04:18.57 | JustinP | leoncamel: you're welcome to look into and mess with the metadata, of course, but the first step is to just use it |
| 04:20.12 | jnc | is there a pre-existing wiki page for developer names and who everyone is? |
| 04:21.05 | JustinP | not AFAIK |
| 04:26.38 | jnc | Guys and gals, if you have commit access please add yourself http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/People |
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| 04:27.24 | jnc | it's the next best thing to having a /~username/ to put thoughts and ideas related to OE |
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| 04:44.33 | emte | jnc, most devs have thier own sites/pages |
| 04:44.55 | emte | including links to donate/support the work they do |
| 04:50.42 | jnc | hmm |
| 04:50.47 | jnc | i'm just broke i guess |
| 04:53.21 | emte | lol |
| 04:56.09 | emte | http://www.vanille.de/projects/openembedded.html |
| 04:56.10 | emte | http://www.hrw.one.pl/articles/donations/ |
| 04:56.12 | emte | etc |
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| 04:57.32 | emte | interesting .... |
| 04:57.44 | emte | http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x093DF623 |
| 04:57.53 | emte | the handhelds.org public key server ... |
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| 06:19.59 | leoncamel | hi, folks . how can I build cross-gcc with option "disable-multilib" ? |
| 06:21.43 | JustinP | add it to the EXTRA_OECONF |
| 06:23.05 | leoncamel | JustinP, hmm, where should I add this option into ? |
| 06:23.26 | JustinP | copy the gcc-cross bb file that you want, then edit it and build that one |
| 06:24.33 | leoncamel | JustinP, ok. |
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| 06:27.00 | leoncamel | JustinP, hmm, I am not sure. could you tell me more about it ? |
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| 06:27.30 | JustinP | EXTRA_OECONF |
| 06:27.33 | JustinP | I'm heading to bed now |
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| 06:28.26 | leoncamel | JustinP, hmm, it seems the gcc-cross-initial_3.4.4.bb already use "--disable-multilib" now . |
| 06:29.02 | leoncamel | JustinP, but the cross-gcc I build, seems use "--enable-multilib" .. :( |
| 06:29.35 | leoncamel | JustinP, OK. :) here is moon now .. |
| 06:34.49 | leoncamel | Hmm, very strange here : I find two gcc-cross in my work directory : tmp/work/iwmmxt-linux/gcc-cross-3.4.4-r3 and tmp/work/iwmmxt-linux/gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-r3. |
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| 06:35.22 | leoncamel | but the arm-linux-gcc in tmp/cross is gcc-cross-3.4.4-r3. |
| 06:36.03 | leoncamel | why ? and how can I install gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-r3 into tmp/cross/arm-linux ? |
| 06:36.31 | JustinP | arm-linux is *ARM-LINUX* binaries |
| 06:36.40 | JustinP | not for running on the host |
| 06:39.36 | leoncamel | JustinP, I mean how can I change my current toolchain to "gcc-cross-initial" instead of "gcc-cross" ? |
| 06:41.50 | JustinP | You don't want to |
| 06:41.59 | JustinP | gcc-cross-initial is just for creating gcc-cross |
| 06:42.07 | JustinP | gcc-cross is th eone that actually builds stuff |
| 06:46.18 | leoncamel | JustinP, I know it is very late for you. But could you mind have a look at this : http://rafb.net/paste/results/kQ6SHv16.html |
| 06:47.43 | leoncamel | the two cross-gcc got different specs. |
| 07:06.00 | _law_ | hi |
| 07:06.26 | _law_ | get some compile errors if i try to build file-native http://pastebin.com/592252 |
| 07:11.17 | leoncamel | _law_, could you paste more message and your local.conf ? |
| 07:14.19 | _law_ | leoncamel, http://pastebin.com/592260 |
| 07:15.26 | _law_ | leoncamel, http://pastebin.com/592263 |
| 07:18.17 | leoncamel | no idea. try "rebuild" |
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| 08:00.42 | Cockroach- | morning |
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| 08:22.22 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:23.06 | johnX | 'mornin |
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| 08:30.04 | koobla | hi all! |
| 08:31.55 | Cockroach- | Anyone familiar with meta-sdk metadata |
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| 08:46.49 | alan|laptop | morning all |
| 08:47.03 | Cockroach- | morning |
| 08:48.46 | Cockroach- | Creepy |
| 08:49.06 | Cockroach- | it seems that I'm starting to understand how the metadata works |
| 08:49.27 | alan|laptop | ^^ you do better than i do... |
| 08:49.44 | Cockroach- | Maybe it was just pure luck |
| 08:50.12 | Cockroach- | I managed to compile meta-sdk target with DISTRO as "familiar-0.8.3" and machine "x86" |
| 08:50.57 | Cockroach- | Too bad that familiar is a kind of a curse word these days |
| 08:51.07 | XorA | morning |
| 08:52.57 | leoncamel | does OE support EABI toolchains ? |
| 08:54.53 | RP | leoncamel: If someone adds the right packages, it can support most toolchains |
| 08:54.56 | RP | morning all |
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| 09:04.09 | katossi | this is so weird: I have a custom gpe image that compiles fine, but if I add just one more package, like for example jamvm to the task-gpe, then it always tries to compile samba, and not even the lastest version but the 3.1.14 |
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| 09:13.05 | leoncamel | RP, I want use my own compiler. How ? |
| 09:13.11 | XorA | leoncamel: koen is working on EABI support |
| 09:14.04 | XorA | katossi: I cant remeber what, but there is a hard coded depend somewhere in OE for samba 3.1.14, I fell over that one a couple of says ago, but I also temporarilly killed my Z so Ive forgotten where |
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| 09:14.39 | leoncamel | It seem something wrong with the toolchain which I build with OE. I am using gcc-cross-3.4.4. |
| 09:16.44 | leoncamel | here is the log : http://rafb.net/paste/results/I1u23266.html |
| 09:17.03 | XorA | RP: did you see discussion on mixer funkiness yesterday? |
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| 09:25.00 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:25.49 | hrw|work | if I want to be tinderclient then I need to build from scratch or can I became one in any moment? |
| 09:26.26 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8d0568a4... 10/packages/linux/ep93xx-kernel/defconfig: ep93xx kernel: update defconfig to match 2.6.16-rc5-derevo14 |
| 09:26.40 | koen | hrw|work: you can become one any moment |
| 09:27.05 | hrw|work | thx |
| 09:30.13 | _law_ | hi hrw |
| 09:30.34 | hrw|work | argh... |
| 09:30.50 | hrw|work | kopete cannot connect to jabber.org but any other client can ;( |
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| 09:33.26 | _law_ | hrw|work, you have updated file-native ? |
| 09:33.59 | _law_ | hrw|work, i get the following error, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/592260 |
| 09:35.30 | katossi | _law_: it's the famouse file-native problem |
| 09:36.03 | katossi | _law_: update your tree, clean your tmp and compile 'file'. it worked to me |
| 09:37.09 | _law_ | katossi, only remove file stuff from tmp? or remove the whole tmp? |
| 09:38.02 | katossi | _law_: file stuff should be enough, but for some reason I had to do a deeper cleaning, try yourself and find out |
| 09:39.21 | katossi | XorA: it would be nice if we could find all the dependencies in a very easy way, a la gentoo for example |
| 09:39.21 | hrw|work | rm tmp/staging/HOST_SYS/bin/file if file-native_4.16-r1 does not build? |
| 09:40.13 | katossi | hrw|work: didn't work here |
| 09:40.17 | hrw|work | katossi: bitbake -n something? |
| 09:40.39 | hrw|work | katossi: should. I build r1 with 0 sized file in staging/bin |
| 09:42.20 | hrw|work | to be sure that it will use just-built file |
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| 10:02.05 | greentux_alt2 | morning |
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| 10:24.21 | hrw|work | hi greentux_alt2 |
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| 10:29.40 | katossi | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.43 | XorA | katossi: its in conf/distro/*.conf files as extra DEPENDS |
| 10:33.47 | koen | or conf/machine/*.conf |
| 10:33.56 | koen | or conf/machine/include/*.conf |
| 10:36.16 | hrw|work | someone need to clean that mess a bit... |
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| 10:36.43 | hrw|work | rootfs_size, gpe_extra_stuff, bigscreen etc. |
| 10:36.54 | koen | I'm trying to: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/current/6904.html |
| 10:36.56 | koen | hey grma |
| 10:36.57 | katossi | yes, sometimes I'm kind of lost |
| 10:37.02 | Cockroach- | oh boy |
| 10:37.14 | grma | hi |
| 10:39.50 | XorA | ~lart glibc for changing interfaces |
| 10:40.11 | katossi | I don't understand this: zaurus-clamshell.conf:GPE_EXTRA_INSTALL += "gaim sylpheed chkhinge" |
| 10:40.27 | katossi | why does a zaurus-clamshell need gaim, sylpheed, etc... |
| 10:40.43 | XorA | katossi: it doesnt need it, its usable because it has a vga screen |
| 10:40.47 | NAbyss | katossi: Some of us like using IM on the run |
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| 10:40.55 | Cockroach- | koen: I hate to bother you with beginner problems, but I did as you suggested few days ago, and managed to build the 'meta-sdk'. So, now I got this oe-sdk-2006xxxxx.tar.bz2 on the tmp/deploy/sdk directory, but I'm not sure what I should do with it's content. :) |
| 10:41.25 | katossi | XorA: how could I prevent it to install? or is it just a DEPEND and not RDEPEND dependency? |
| 10:41.37 | hrw|work | Cockroach-: unpack to system, add /usr/local/*/bin to PATH and use arm-linux-gcc |
| 10:41.41 | koen | Cockroach-: untar it somewhere on your computer and play with it :) |
| 10:41.51 | TheMasterMind1 | katossi: comment out that line |
| 10:45.06 | katossi | XorA: just because it's usable doesn't mean we need it. And I think, that should depend more on distro than in machine |
| 10:46.25 | greentux_alt2 | somebody more info? http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4475809720.html |
| 10:49.58 | Cockroach- | koen & hrw|work: I did figure that much out, I did a meta-sdk build for both h3600 and x86 machines and the idea was to first develope, build and debug under x86 hardware and after everything works, build for arm. However when I tried to build nano (not through OE, but using the sdk) and having set CC, CPP, LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS environment variables to point where the SDK was unpacked, everything went well except that the resulting nano binary was linked to |
| 10:50.26 | Cockroach- | So I suppose there is no "free lunch" by just chroot:ing to some directory and having everything working by itself ;) |
| 10:52.23 | Cockroach- | I lack experience when working with developing software for linux. |
| 10:53.22 | hrw|work | greentux_alt2: another montavista users |
| 10:53.31 | hrw|work | greentux_alt2: I suppose - 2.4.20 kernel |
| 10:53.44 | greentux_alt2 | hrw|work: ah, ok ... montavista :( |
| 10:53.51 | hrw|work | Cockroach-: it was linked to wrong libs? |
| 10:54.19 | hrw|work | Cockroach-: you need to give params to configure script with path to cross-libs, cross-includes |
| 10:54.27 | RP | greentux_alt2: It would be nice if we could see these devices running 2,6 :-/ |
| 10:54.42 | greentux_alt2 | RP: will check at CeBit... |
| 10:55.12 | Cockroach- | hrw|work: when setting LDFLAGS="-L/path/to/my/special/libs", it just appends that to the library search path, and not override the default ones? |
| 10:56.46 | greentux_alt2 | yesterday i got a CF umts card (from japan...)... and: it works! |
| 10:56.58 | NAbyss | greentux_alt2: Nice.. |
| 10:57.03 | NAbyss | greentux_alt2: How much, roughly? |
| 10:57.38 | greentux_alt2 | NAbyss: dont know. sold only with a contract (plan). i assume around $450 without. |
| 10:57.52 | NAbyss | Ah, not too bad then |
| 10:58.33 | hrw|work | Cockroach-: unpacked nano. it has ./configure script which probably has --with-libs --with-includes switches which you should use instead of LDFLAGS |
| 10:58.42 | Cockroach- | k |
| 10:58.45 | greentux_alt2 | NAbyss: will be available in uk next month |
| 10:58.46 | hrw|work | ~change 450 usd to pln |
| 11:02.05 | koobla | where can I get linux-libc-headers for a 2.4.25 kernel? |
| 11:02.22 | hrw|work | koobla: linux-libc-headers are not related with running kernel |
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| 11:02.37 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 11:02.44 | koobla | hm, well, agreed ;) |
| 11:02.46 | koen | hey florian_kc |
| 11:02.50 | hrw|work | hi florian_kc |
| 11:03.31 | hrw|work | if my opie-image build failed on sharp-aticore-oss then I do not get any opie stuff but opie-image is starting to build. |
| 11:04.02 | hrw|work | I'm thinking about something like opie-image:DEPENDS = "what MUST be built to even start do_rootfs" |
| 11:07.50 | hrw|work | sharp-aticore-oss does not like make 3.81 ;( |
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| 11:07.56 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 11:11.22 | ashak | file-native is failing to compile on my system. |
| 11:11.40 | ashak | | lt-file: could not find any magic files! |
| 11:11.41 | ashak | | make[2]: *** [magic.mgc] Error 255 |
| 11:11.50 | hrw|work | r1? |
| 11:12.14 | katossi | ashak: did you update your tree? |
| 11:12.23 | Cockroach- | hrw|work: it seems that I just fumbled myself. Compiling and linking was done against the correct "special" libraries, but since the nano was built with dynamic linking, on running ldd it showed bindings to my host libs because the "special" libraries were not visible. Running ldconfig and tuning ld.so.conf would change that |
| 11:12.28 | ashak | katossi: about an hour ago |
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| 11:13.03 | ashak | hrw|work: file-native-4.16-r1 |
| 11:13.33 | hrw|work | argh. |
| 11:14.32 | katossi | ashak: your tmp stuff must probably be clean, hrw said before how to do it |
| 11:14.54 | ashak | katossi: which parts? |
| 11:15.09 | ashak | or is is simpler to nuke the whole lot? |
| 11:15.16 | katossi | ashak: the ones related to 'file' |
| 11:15.46 | katossi | ashak: cleaning everything obviously will work, but you will start everything from scratch then |
| 11:15.57 | ashak | tmp/work/i686-linux/file-native ? |
| 11:16.33 | hrw|work | tmp/staging/HOST_SYS/bin/file |
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| 11:17.51 | ashak | stuff like this, is there anywhere it is mentioned other than in here? |
| 11:17.52 | hrw|work | who can help me understand why opie-image does not even try to build opie packages which it has to install? up-to-date OE .dev, up-to-date bitbake |
| 11:18.36 | ashak | hrw|work: I only had that problem when I wasn't using the svn bitbake on my gentoo system. |
| 11:19.10 | XorA | god I wish I understood this modern glibc stuff, like why it add __THROW to all function calls when included from c++ |
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| 11:25.44 | Bernardo | hrw|work: may I suggest a default file for /etc/default/opd_args so that bluetooth file reception works (even if it isn't integrated with opie yet)? |
| 11:26.38 | Bernardo | I've just been fighting it, and got it to work without much trouble |
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| 11:27.11 | Bernardo | now if we had a "obex incomming folder" it would be even nicer |
| 11:27.44 | ashak | Bah, file-native is still failing |
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| 11:36.09 | hrw|work | Bernardo: you know - patches are welcome and bugzilla is working |
| 11:36.31 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I'm nearly two months back when it comes to .dev |
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| 11:39.53 | koobla | hrw|work, I found the problem with linux-libc-headers -- my TARGET_ARCH was ppc, leading to an undefined ARCH variable, which caused the script to stop |
| 11:40.44 | hrw|work | koobla: ppc<>powerpc naming problem? |
| 11:41.27 | koobla | right |
| 11:41.35 | Bernardo | hrw|work: ok, I've sent to the list but I do need to start using bugzilla... |
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| 11:52.21 | Bernardo | hrw|work: just added to bugzilla |
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| 11:59.23 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 12:00.03 | lardman | hi hrw|work, how's things? |
| 12:03.05 | hrw|work | lardman: not bad |
| 12:03.40 | hrw|work | lardman: I reserved half of day during weekend for oz release (if it will be build in that time) |
| 12:04.28 | lardman | hrw|work: Cool, I'll flash it then and prepare for user support on the forums ;) |
| 12:04.35 | hrw|work | lardman: ;) |
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| 12:05.40 | hrw|work | and I have problem with my lips - weather ;( |
| 12:06.19 | lardman | it's strangely warm here (tho' raining as standard), Spring must have started |
| 12:07.37 | hrw|work | here it has to snow in next days a bit |
| 12:08.24 | hrw|work | koen: do you know where angstrom homepage will be hosted? |
| 12:08.55 | koen | hrw|work: yes |
| 12:09.18 | hrw|work | I feel pain each time when I have to go to openzaurus.org... |
| 12:09.26 | hrw|work | ~kill sf.net project webserver |
| 12:09.28 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited meson gun at sf.net project webserver |
| 12:15.26 | florian_kc | koen: now we know why it isn't sf.net ;-) |
| 12:16.56 | hrw|work | I feel that bitbake/OE.dev is broken in nasty way... |
| 12:17.26 | hrw|work | build opie-image and let it fail on one of depends.. next run will ignore that fail and skip all depends |
| 12:18.12 | hrw|work | and then s/opie-image/meta-opie/ and you will get moment where it will not take care od buildtime depends |
| 12:19.56 | hrw|work | any ideas? |
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| 12:22.17 | reenoo | morning |
| 12:23.31 | hrw|work | hi Rene |
| 12:23.42 | reenoo | hi hrw|work |
| 12:27.32 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 12:27.44 | Bernardo | hrw|work: do you want me to build anything? |
| 12:27.52 | Bernardo | I'll have my inlaws here, but... |
| 12:28.09 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 12:28.20 | Bernardo | I already left my machine building meta-opie, iqnotes, prboom and opie-kdepim-image for the akita |
| 12:28.35 | hrw|work | Bernardo: no - I would rather want why that happen |
| 12:29.00 | Bernardo | ? |
| 12:29.07 | koen | reenoo: you latest change to glibc seems to work on my config |
| 12:29.11 | hrw|work | Bernardo: I probably can build that all by hand - but want to know why automatic way does not work |
| 12:29.12 | koen | reenoo: thanks for fixing it |
| 12:29.45 | hrw|work | ~lart recent OE (.dev/bitbake) for breaking |
| 12:31.28 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I meant for the launch |
| 12:31.46 | hrw|work | Bernardo: mickeyl machine is working on building |
| 12:32.00 | Bernardo | ok, if you need anything just tell me |
| 12:32.06 | hrw|work | sure |
| 12:32.07 | reenoo | koen: np |
| 12:32.25 | hrw|work | Bernardo: currently ewi is enough for me if I have to build something |
| 12:34.06 | reenoo | koen: I'm about to fix the h3900 tune-*.conf situation and would like it to default to tune-strongarm. would you mind adding a variable to angstrom.conf to override that? |
| 12:34.46 | reenoo | (H3900_TUNING = "xscale" to be precise) |
| 12:35.33 | koen | I wouldn't mind |
| 12:35.34 | hrw|work | TUNING_h3900 = "xscale" maybe? |
| 12:35.59 | hrw|work | so machine override comes for free |
| 12:36.00 | katossi | what is that supposed to do? use some custom flags for gcc? |
| 12:36.12 | koen | ~lart EABI for being armv5 only |
| 12:36.18 | hrw|work | katossi: look at conf/machine/includes/tune-* |
| 12:36.24 | reenoo | hrw|work: no. think of the H3900_ as a namespace prefix. |
| 12:36.24 | katossi | aha |
| 12:36.34 | hrw|work | reenoo: ok |
| 12:37.55 | koen | reenoo: how will this be handles in other armv5 machines? |
| 12:38.21 | katossi | hrw|work: ok it's as I thought, but, is it really worth of it? what's the real gain? |
| 12:38.32 | reenoo | koen: dunno. I guess they could adopt the same strategy |
| 12:38.57 | koen | wouldn't it be smarter to propose it to oe@ and implement it in a day or to? |
| 12:42.46 | hrw|work | katossi: depends |
| 12:43.08 | hrw|work | katossi: rumours say that xscale gain few % of speed |
| 12:43.10 | reenoo | koen: the amount of time I have these days is limited and I'm just adding a variable... |
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| 12:43.28 | katossi | hrw|work: 10% is ok to me, 1% is worthless |
| 12:43.58 | koen | reenoo: I'm sort of abusing oe@ for documentation purposes |
| 12:45.08 | reenoo | koen: if you look at pH5's recent post you'll see how people forget what's discussed/announced there very soon... |
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| 12:45.52 | koen | true |
| 12:46.18 | XorA | hrw|work: this SD timeout problem, is it supposed to give an output in dmesg? |
| 12:46.24 | reenoo | koen: I'll comment on it in the commit message and forward that to oe@ |
| 12:46.35 | koen | reenoo: thanks |
| 12:46.41 | hrw|work | XorA: no |
| 12:47.09 | XorA | hrw|work: how do you know when you have hit the problem then? |
| 12:47.26 | hrw|work | XorA: just test 'while true;do md5sum /dev/mmcblk0;done' - if results differ then you got it |
| 12:47.55 | highfi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.56 | hrw|work | XorA: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-arm-kernel&m=114164723821285&w=2 |
| 12:48.12 | XorA | hrw|work: hmmm, a mv to /dev/mmcblk0p1 has just entered D state for me |
| 12:48.34 | hrw|work | XorA: dmesg full of i/o errors? |
| 12:48.49 | hrw|work | highfi: shipping to any part of world in price? nice |
| 12:48.57 | XorA | hrw|work: nope, hence why I was checking |
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| 12:49.42 | XorA | hrw|work: I suspect I have found why my root on SD crashed occasionally |
| 12:50.08 | hrw|work | XorA: timeout problem? |
| 12:50.32 | XorA | hrw|work: I have no errors to tell any form of problem |
| 12:50.53 | reenoo | koen: should I add H3900_TUNING = "xscale" to angstrom.conf so it's all in the same commit or do you want to do that? |
| 12:50.53 | hrw|work | XorA: try that md5sum |
| 12:51.13 | koen | reenoo: go ahead and add it if you want |
| 12:51.26 | reenoo | koen: ok, will do. thanks |
| 12:51.36 | hrw|work | XorA: it failed on any bad card - my 64M/256M, 1G from greentux, 256M transcend (oz user) |
| 12:52.01 | XorA | hrw|work: hmm, md5sum immediately enters D state, mmc driver must be fscked |
| 12:52.14 | hrw|work | XorA: dmesg gives? |
| 12:52.25 | XorA | hrw|work: nothing |
| 12:53.36 | hrw|work | strange |
| 12:53.54 | hrw|work | XorA: so linux-oz r11 will not work for you probably |
| 12:54.50 | XorA | hrw|work: this problem is older than r11 |
| 12:55.13 | XorA | hrw|work: but with my / on SD it used to just lock up device, I moved / back to jffs2 and I can now see why I get lockups |
| 12:55.18 | hrw|work | XorA: I know - but r11 got rmk patch instead of my old one |
| 12:55.22 | XorA | hrw|work: its been bugging me for a while |
| 12:56.11 | hrw|work | XorA: I first got it serious in December |
| 12:56.29 | XorA | hrw|work: this afternoon I will try md5sum and see if this is same problem or a different mmc bug |
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| 13:00.26 | katossi | is there any known problem with gnome-vfs-dbus and samba > 3.1.14? why is that specific version required? |
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| 13:16.57 | leoncamel | hmm, I think there is some problem with the toolchain which I builded with OE. |
| 13:17.51 | leoncamel | the problem is very strange. It always crashed like this : http://rafb.net/paste/results/I1u23266.html |
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| 13:20.04 | leoncamel | I rebuild a toolchain with crosstool. It is configured with "softfloat, gcc-3.4" . Then I build a busybox with static option. |
| 13:20.54 | leoncamel | and It will not crash then. |
| 13:20.59 | leoncamel | any idea ? |
| 13:21.20 | hrw|work | leoncamel: arm? |
| 13:21.52 | leoncamel | hrw|work, yes. |
| 13:22.05 | hrw|work | leoncamel: checked linux-arm-kernel archives? |
| 13:22.29 | leoncamel | hrw|work, ok. I will check it now . |
| 13:23.13 | leoncamel | hrw|work, But I don't know which keyword should I use .. :( |
| 13:23.33 | koen | does cvs have a recursive add? |
| 13:23.54 | hrw|work | koen: no |
| 13:24.00 | koen | hrm |
| 13:24.10 | njs | sure -- 'find -print0 | xargs -0 cvs add' ;-) |
| 13:24.25 | njs | (err... or maybe that does horrible things to existing CVS dirs.) |
| 13:24.28 | hrw|work | leoncamel: kernel init hang |
| 13:24.42 | leoncamel | hrw|work, :). OK. |
| 13:24.48 | njs | (like, end up with CVS/Entries files in the repo, or something equally horribly stupid.) |
| 13:25.13 | reenoo | njs: cvs will refuse to add that type of thing |
| 13:26.35 | njs | reenoo: I probably have the details wrong, I've mostly managed to suppress most of my cvs scar tissue these days. I remember _something_ like that... I wonder what. |
| 13:26.35 | koen | apart from the cvs add thing, I have a RO monotone-cvs mirror online :) |
| 13:26.35 | katossi | who made gnome-vfs-dbus bb file? |
| 13:27.18 | hrw|work | katossi: mt log? |
| 13:28.29 | hrw|work | gnmoe-vfs-dbus: depend on an older samba to fix build |
| 13:28.31 | hrw|work | koen |
| 13:29.01 | hrw|work | katossi: so test with current samba |
| 13:29.10 | hrw|work | katossi: Revision: ff8482dffaa2fde2376b39d9666e0598a8beae83 |
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| 13:29.38 | hrw|work | its over 0.5h old change |
| 13:29.45 | hrw|work | s/h /y |
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| 13:33.39 | zecke | do13: hey |
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| 13:33.51 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
| 13:33.52 | zecke | do13: where are your konq bb files again? |
| 13:34.07 | ulit1 | hi zecke ;-) |
| 13:34.12 | hrw|work | zecke: another bitbake/OE.dev problem found ;( |
| 13:34.41 | hrw|work | zecke: build opie-image and let it fail on one of depends.. next run will ignore that fail and skip all depends |
| 13:34.42 | zecke | hrw|work: that is not funny any more :( (for both of us) |
| 13:35.01 | zecke | hrw|work: that one is new |
| 13:35.27 | hrw|work | zecke: I know - but I was out of .dev for month(s) so more things are new for me |
| 13:35.53 | hrw|work | zecke: here it was sharp-aticore-oss failed so qte dont build so no opie at all |
| 13:36.02 | zecke | hrw|work: depends in DEPENDS or in RDEPENDS? |
| 13:36.32 | hrw|work | zecke: opie-image rdepends |
| 13:40.06 | koobla | hi zecke! |
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| 13:41.55 | zecke | koobla: found the issue? |
| 13:42.03 | koobla | yes |
| 13:42.10 | zecke | koobla: what was it? |
| 13:42.14 | koobla | BBFILES contained 2 paths |
| 13:42.25 | koobla | moved my packages into tree -> now it works |
| 13:42.40 | koobla | so much for the symptoms :) |
| 13:42.43 | hrw|work | BB>> getvar BBFILES |
| 13:42.43 | hrw|work | /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/*/*.bb /home/hrw/devel/oe/hrw-packages/*/*.bb |
| 13:42.46 | hrw|work | and it works |
| 13:42.53 | zecke | hrw|work: hmm I wonder how to reproduce it |
| 13:42.54 | koobla | hmmm. cured it for me at least |
| 13:43.21 | koobla | i looked into the bb cache - the function names are corrupt |
| 13:43.29 | hrw|work | zecke: install make 3.81 and build opie-image/c7x0 from scratch - it will fail on sharp-aticore-oss |
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| 13:44.14 | koen | hrw|work: that would explain why OE suddenly built glibc 2.3.2 |
| 13:44.28 | RP | hrw|work: Are you seeing this problem under the bitbake shell or from the commandline? |
| 13:44.38 | hrw|work | RP: shell |
| 13:44.43 | koen | cmdline |
| 13:44.49 | hrw|work | will try cmdline now |
| 13:45.09 | RP | XorA: I did read the discussion about the mixer yesterday - I think its a bug somewhere in ASoC by the looks of it |
| 13:45.26 | RP | koen: You're seeing the same issue? |
| 13:45.29 | XorA | RP: cool, just making sure you saw it when someone else complains |
| 13:45.37 | koen | RP: I did yesterday |
| 13:46.46 | RP | Next time someone sees the RDEPENDS issue I'd appreciate a -D -D -D -v output log from bitbake to try and track the problem down with... |
| 13:46.57 | RP | XorA: thanks :) |
| 13:47.06 | hrw|work | RP: ok |
| 13:47.33 | XorA | RP: Ive got a horrible workaround involving alsamixer and alt tab :-( |
| 13:48.03 | koen | also 'buffers' in bbshell is broken |
| 13:48.13 | RP | XorA: We'll get there eventually... |
| 13:48.13 | koen | it renumbers the buffers the wrong way |
| 13:49.51 | Cockroach- | Oh my |
| 13:50.21 | Cockroach- | I was able to build a working familiar & gpe for 3630 |
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| 13:51.23 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:51.52 | hrw|work | RP: hmm.. now it works.. |
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| 13:54.45 | koen | http://pastebin.com/592549 <- cvs mirror script for OE |
| 13:59.34 | hrw|work | koen: THX for http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18098&view=findpost&p=117517 |
| 14:01.34 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/mmc_plus_2gb.diff will go into 3.5.4 first upgrade... |
| 14:01.42 | _law_ | hrw|work, removed file from staging dirs, but i always get the same error :-( |
| 14:02.26 | hrw|work | argh.. |
| 14:02.47 | hrw|work | I will not touch non-maintained stuff in next few weeks |
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| 14:04.34 | koen | hey zecke_ |
| 14:09.12 | zecke_ | re |
| 14:10.35 | koen | zecke_: http://pastebin.com/592549 |
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| 14:10.48 | do13_ | hi all |
| 14:10.54 | koen | he do13_ |
| 14:11.01 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 14:11.07 | do13_ | hey koen, Marcin |
| 14:11.53 | ulit1 | hi do13 |
| 14:12.01 | ulit1 | zecke told me, you are building embedded konqueror |
| 14:12.15 | do13_ | hey ulit1, yep |
| 14:12.18 | ulit1 | do oyu have any recent bb files? |
| 14:12.27 | zecke_ | hey uli |
| 14:12.33 | ulit1 | hey zecke |
| 14:12.39 | do13_ | hey zecke |
| 14:13.28 | hrw|work | RP: rmk timeout patch works better for you then our old version? |
| 14:13.46 | RP | hrw|work: It works just the same but is a proper fix |
| 14:14.02 | ulit1 | do13: maybe, i should introduce myself :-) |
| 14:14.20 | zecke_ | ulit1: hehe, good thinking |
| 14:14.22 | do13_ | ulit1: sorry. I need some cleanups |
| 14:14.22 | hrw|work | RP: ok. I'm adding one fix for 3.5.4 c7x0 kernel now |
| 14:14.30 | ulit1 | I am working for Road, The company that is sponsoring the port |
| 14:14.37 | ulit1 | My Name is Uli |
| 14:14.48 | do13_ | Hey Uli :) |
| 14:15.04 | ulit1 | And I am trying to get it built with bitbake |
| 14:15.34 | do13_ | ulit1: wait a sec |
| 14:16.55 | hrw|work | mickey|dinner: ping |
| 14:17.09 | zecke_ | do13_: was thar javascript error a compile time or runtime error? |
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| 14:18.04 | do13_ | zecke_: runtime error |
| 14:18.20 | ulit1 | did you get pcre to linbk cleanly? |
| 14:19.44 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.14-rc1: started |
| 14:20.00 | do13_ | ulit1: with a trick. Try this one http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/konqueror-embedded_svn.bb |
| 14:20.48 | CIA-1 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2ebbef46... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:20.50 | CIA-1 | linux-openzaurus 2.6.14-rc1: [MMC] Support MMC version 4 cards |
| 14:20.52 | CIA-1 | Version 4 of the MMC specification increased the version number of the |
| 14:20.54 | CIA-1 | CID structure. None of the fields changed though so the only required |
| 14:20.56 | CIA-1 | change is adding '4' to the approved list. |
| 14:20.58 | CIA-1 | patch taken from 2.6.15 |
| 14:21.29 | _law_ | NOTE: package file-native-4.16: completed :-) |
| 14:21.45 | do13_ | zecke_: On javascript pages konqe eats 99% cpu load and crashed after a minute |
| 14:21.54 | ulit1 | do13_: thanks |
| 14:21.59 | ulit1 | i'll give it a try |
| 14:22.12 | do13_ | zecke_: But on my pc with qvfb it works |
| 14:22.29 | do13_ | ulit1: np |
| 14:22.35 | zecke_ | do13_: did you try in a qemu image yet? |
| 14:22.52 | CIA-1 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rea1850c8... 10/conf/distro/ (4 files): distro/*.conf: change PREFERRED_VERSION_x11 to PREFERRED_VERSION_libx11 |
| 14:22.56 | zecke_ | ulit1: thanks to Richard we can create qemu images |
| 14:23.02 | do13_ | zecke_: not yet |
| 14:23.53 | zecke_ | hrw|work: how did we sort out the file-native issue? |
| 14:24.05 | hrw|work | zecke_: using just-build file |
| 14:24.21 | ulit1 | zecke: we should extend qemu to emulate our peripherals |
| 14:25.09 | hrw|work | zecke_: but it still fails for many people ;( |
| 14:25.17 | hrw|work | I will not touch non-maintained stuff in next few weeks |
| 14:25.29 | zecke_ | hrw|work: yes it still fails :( |
| 14:25.58 | koen | that explains why OE builds dbus 0.23 and glibmm 2.4 |
| 14:26.00 | zecke_ | hrw|work: well, somehow it complains that no magic files were found :( |
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| 14:27.32 | do13_ | RP: Does opie works with qemu yet? |
| 14:28.05 | CIA-1 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r235af9cf... 10/packages/avahi/avahi_0.6.9.bb: avahi: add 0.6.9 |
| 14:30.59 | ashak | file-native compiled fine for me, after I totally removed the tmp dir :) |
| 14:32.23 | CIA-1 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra8fc8d79... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (files/makefile-fix.patch keylaunch_2.0.7.bb): keylaunch-2.0.7: LDFLAGS Makefile fix |
| 14:36.34 | CIA-1 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * reb48ce1d... 10/packages/login-manager/files/login-manager: login-manager: simplify get_valid_lms, fix for kbdless devices with only one dm installed |
| 14:38.43 | ulit1 | do13, how did you get konqueror not to link against "-L/home/luckas/svn-slimfast/phone-oe-arm.clean/oe-build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib" :-) |
| 14:38.58 | ulit1 | there is a major bug in the makefile |
| 14:39.24 | ulit1 | which makes the response of "pcre-config" a dependency and nto only a linker flag |
| 14:39.58 | XorA | ~lart win2k server and snmp agents |
| 14:41.48 | do13_ | ulit1: PCRE_CONFIG="invalid" and the configure script use the default values. This is a nasty hack |
| 14:42.22 | do13_ | ulit1: btw. my bb-file contains a copy and paste error. I put a new one online |
| 14:42.48 | ulit1 | do13: which caused my builds to link against the hosts libpcre :-( |
| 14:43.04 | ulit1 | i'll give your bb a try with PCRE_CONFIG="invalid" |
| 14:47.41 | RP | hi ulit1 |
| 14:48.06 | RP | ulit1: Adding support for more arm cpus/peripherals to qemu would be good :) |
| 14:49.10 | do13_ | ulit1: NOTE: package konqueror-embedded-0.0+svn20060307-r0: task do_compile: completed |
| 14:49.28 | ulit1 | :-) |
| 14:49.37 | ulit1 | NOTE: package konqueror-embedded-20060309: completed |
| 14:49.37 | ulit1 | Build statistics: |
| 14:49.44 | ulit1 | :-) |
| 14:49.47 | HopsNBarley | 'mornin all |
| 14:49.52 | ulit1 | let's put it on the device ... |
| 14:50.00 | koen | hey HopsNBarley |
| 14:50.09 | HopsNBarley | hi koen! |
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| 14:50.24 | ulit1 | scp: ./konqueror-embedded_20060309-r0_armv5te.ipk: No space left on device |
| 14:50.25 | ulit1 | :-( |
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| 14:51.48 | do13_ | ulit1: you need a bigger flash :) |
| 14:53.28 | do13_ | ulit1: do you have seen problems with javascript? |
| 14:53.33 | ulit1 | oh. thanks do13. i was already wondering how to solve the scp issue ;-) |
| 14:54.07 | ulit1 | this is my first try on the arm platform. JS on x86 seems fine |
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| 15:07.22 | katossi | soon we will have a origami.conf :) |
| 15:09.28 | emte | koen|away, why would you embed a png into an svg? they are both vector graphics, you should be able to convert easily |
| 15:09.42 | hrw|work | emte: png is bitmap not vector |
| 15:10.05 | emte | really? |
| 15:10.19 | emte | it was vector when i fist worked with it |
| 15:10.24 | chouimat | hi emte |
| 15:10.40 | emte | but that was ... 8/9 yrs ago ... |
| 15:10.57 | emte | whne macromedia first introduced it |
| 15:11.05 | emte | hey chouimat |
| 15:11.30 | emte | all line and color feild stuff |
| 15:11.48 | emte | for director and flash |
| 15:11.51 | njs | ...are you sure that is the same png? |
| 15:11.59 | emte | not anymore |
| 15:12.51 | emte | i wonder what happens if i load my old stuff now ... |
| 15:13.00 | njs | hmm, wikipedia says that "macromedia fireworks" uses PNG's extensibility to store more its own custom info in PNGs |
| 15:13.20 | emte | lol |
| 15:13.34 | emte | there i go i guess |
| 15:14.22 | emte | as far as you can trust wikipedia now that it was dubbed the most flawed referance availible |
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| 15:16.46 | ashak | Is there any way to setup vnc within gpe, like you can within Opie? |
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| 15:18.20 | XorA | ashak: install x11vnc |
| 15:19.54 | zecke_ | ashak: you could use teleport? teleport the applications to your linux desktop |
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| 15:21.17 | dtx | Can someone tell me what the difference is exactly between IPKG_INSTALL, DEPENDS, and RDEPENDS. And which ones resolve their dependencies automatically? |
| 15:22.09 | ashak | zecke: teleport? sounds fun... *investigates* |
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| 15:23.20 | zecke_ | ashak: I don't know if matchbox desktop is supporting it |
| 15:23.20 | [lala_] | do13_: are you planning to put your konq bb file into dev? |
| 15:23.30 | zecke_ | [lala_]: as I judge do13, he tries to sell it to lineo first |
| 15:23.46 | [lala_] | hehe |
| 15:24.04 | hrw|work | dtx: IPKG_INSTALL = packages which will be in image, DEPENDS = build depends, RDEPENDS = on-device depends (and they are autosolved for libs) |
| 15:24.39 | hrw|work | [lala_]: lineo track his work on patches... |
| 15:25.09 | zecke_ | have you seen the new Zaurus already? |
| 15:25.56 | hrw|work | zecke_: slc3200? |
| 15:25.59 | zecke_ | yes |
| 15:26.20 | hrw|work | zecke_: sharp out of 4G uDrives so released new machine |
| 15:26.34 | hrw|work | zecke_: changed colors to hide that it is same as before ;) |
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| 15:34.23 | ashak | This sucks, I have no idea what i'm doing :) |
| 15:36.11 | hrw|work | NOTE: package opie-image-1.0: completed |
| 15:36.13 | hrw|work | finally |
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| 15:55.49 | hrw|work | http://www.iral.com/~albertr/linux/zaurus/wireless/ nice hacks to cxx00 |
| 15:57.14 | do13_ | [lala_]: If the last dependencies are solved I'll publish my bb- files |
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| 15:58.27 | dan2003 | off topic i know, but batteries, the zaurus batteries, is the lio-ion charge within the pack? or is this just the cell protection circuit? if so why the third terminal? does naybody know?l |
| 15:58.37 | Bernardo | do13: please do. We do need a half-decent web browser |
| 15:59.03 | hrw|work | do13_: we (opie users) will get very nice browser |
| 15:59.17 | hrw|work | cu - english lesson |
| 15:59.19 | do13_ | hrw|work: yep. |
| 15:59.25 | dan2003 | I widh to build n external charger for my spare Cells, im quite awra eof the lio-ion charge cycle and have a propper li-ion charger IC, but i am unsure about how the cicruit within the z battery packs works |
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| 16:05.44 | dan2003 | interesting, scope reveals its a serial comunications line! |
| 16:07.25 | ulit1 | do13:thanks for your help. got konqui running on my device with the same problems you reported. |
| 16:08.55 | ulit1 | i'll keep you updated on further improvements (try adding " -DENABLE_BOOKMARKS" to your *_extraflags for example) |
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| 16:12.56 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 16:13.03 | do13_ | ulit1: thx |
| 16:17.05 | do13_ | ulit1: I hope we get an discount for your phone :) |
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| 16:25.50 | ulit1 | do13: :-) |
| 16:26.18 | ulit1 | do13: does having in-berlin as a provider mean you are living in berlin? |
| 16:26.32 | do13_ | ulit1: no near frankfurt |
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| 16:46.47 | hrw | Bernardo: iqnotes 2.1.0rc1 is in OE iirc |
| 16:47.28 | hrw | Bernardo: iqnotes_2.0.99-2.1.0rc1.bb (.dev) |
| 16:47.29 | hrw | cu |
| 16:49.28 | CIA-1 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rec8212ce... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/files/angstrom/splash-l.svg: gpe-bootsplash: start adding some Angstrom branding |
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| 16:54.32 | Bernardo | hrw|gone: thanks. That's what happens for only checking oz354... |
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| 17:02.02 | CoreDump|home | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency diffstat-native <- is anyone else getting this? There is indeed no -native .bb and diffstat.bb doesn't build it either |
| 17:03.32 | zecke | CoreDump|home: hey |
| 17:03.44 | zecke | CoreDump|home: we now have an ASSUME_PROVIDED for required native packages |
| 17:03.52 | CoreDump|home | err |
| 17:03.56 | zecke | CoreDump|home: and bitbake.conf sets it, make sure you do not overwrite it |
| 17:04.17 | CoreDump|home | I didn't touch bitbake.conf and svn upped yesterday |
| 17:04.31 | zecke | CoreDump|home: sorry for my phrasing, |
| 17:04.42 | zecke | CoreDump|home: "Du überschreibst ASSUME_PROVIDED!" |
| 17:04.48 | CoreDump|home | ahh |
| 17:04.58 | CoreDump|home | probably in my local.conf |
| 17:04.58 | zecke | CoreDump|home: You need to do ASSUME_PROVIDE += instead of '=' |
| 17:06.06 | CoreDump|home | zecke: thanks =) local.conf indeed overwrote that var |
| 17:07.06 | zecke | *food* |
| 17:08.28 | CoreDump|home | ~lart nfs-kernel-server |
| 17:08.39 | CoreDump|home | heh how fitting |
| 17:11.31 | CoreDump|home | zecke: I have a stupid question about the ASSUME_PROVIDED thingy. Wasn't the whole point of OE to have a unified devel environment which is self-contained? Ie: it compiles its own buildroot and (almost) all dependencies required for crosscompilation. |
| 17:12.03 | CoreDump|home | Using ASSUME_PROVIDED kinda defeats this purpose |
| 17:12.23 | reenoo | well, you have to stop at some point |
| 17:12.44 | Crofton | CoreDump|home, it does, but it does help if you are too lazy to figure out why a native build desn't work for you ... |
| 17:13.45 | reenoo | CoreDump|home: i.e. compiling a compiler without a compiler won't work. the same goes for patching the sources of patch without patch. etc. etc. |
| 17:13.56 | CoreDump|home | I do understand that it would be quite some work to include the "-native" stuff but I always "assumed" (hehe) that this was a sortf of principle of OE |
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| 17:14.38 | zecke | CoreDump|home: yes true. But how do you compile a compiler? |
| 17:14.49 | zecke | CoreDump|home: well you need one to compile -> ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 17:14.58 | zecke | CoreDump|home: how to run bitbake -> python is present |
| 17:15.07 | CoreDump|home | you don't, at a very early stage you have to use pre-installed stuff of course |
| 17:15.25 | zecke | CoreDump|home: quilt needs patch as RDEPENBDS, but do build quilt we need to patch it |
| 17:15.34 | zecke | CoreDump|home: patch -> ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 17:15.57 | zecke | CoreDump|home: the minimal set of absolute requirements will land in ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 17:16.09 | CoreDump|home | zecke: ah ok |
| 17:16.54 | zecke | CoreDump|home: the only bigger package sin ASSUME_PROVIDED are python and perl |
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| 17:20.47 | CoreDump|home | thanks for clearing this up =) |
| 17:26.15 | zecke | CoreDump|home: do you have an idea on how to document that better? |
| 17:27.10 | CoreDump|home | as the change was very recent, maybe add it to /topic? |
| 17:27.48 | CoreDump|home | or add a "Important Notes" features to BB which prints out this kind of stuff on the first run after an update =) |
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| 17:35.42 | CoreDump|home | zecke: nice! |
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| 17:43.43 | RP | zecke: I have a sanity.conf and sanity.bbclass which detects the ASSUME_PROVIDED error now :) |
| 17:45.15 | zecke | RP: you check if the know bits are still present? |
| 17:45.24 | zecke | RP: you might do require instead of include? |
| 17:46.02 | RP | zecke: you mean for sanity.conf? |
| 17:46.18 | zecke | yes (don't tell me you do that already) |
| 17:46.43 | RP | its an include at the moment but a require would be fine |
| 17:46.57 | RP | as long as people can override (which they can) |
| 17:47.15 | RP | zecke: It also checks for a minimum bitbake version |
| 17:48.11 | RP | zecke: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/oe-sanity.patch |
| 17:48.32 | RP | I posted to oe@ about including it. I'm tempted to just push it... |
| 17:48.57 | koen|away | the bikeshed should be yellow |
| 17:48.59 | zecke | RP: I have seen it, use require conf/sanity.conf |
| 17:49.03 | koen|away | gah |
| 17:49.09 | koen|away | ~lart nickserv |
| 17:51.04 | zecke | RP: you could just require all files |
| 17:51.24 | zecke | RP: and kergoth can just use touch (once) |
| 17:54.20 | RP | zecke: I don't see the point in requiring all files. Running without a distro set is valid... But I agree sanity should be required which will catch a different set of misconfigurations :) |
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| 19:05.40 | zecke | CoreDump|busy: did file-native build for you? |
| 19:06.09 | zecke | CoreDump|busy: for me opie-image, meta-opie, meta-opie-all are building, meta-gpe fails on sylpheed |
| 19:07.15 | pH5 | zecke: 0.8.3? I just today built sylpheed 2.2.2 in .dev |
| 19:07.29 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 19:07.58 | zecke | pH5: 1.9.12 :} (whatever my config is) |
| 19:08.13 | zecke | pH5: it fails to link, see #730 |
| 19:08.57 | zecke | RP: I have one question for your sanity.bbclass, how often is the quick return used? |
| 19:12.39 | mickeyl | good evening |
| 19:12.45 | reenoo | evening mickeyl |
| 19:12.58 | mickeyl | hi reenoo |
| 19:15.12 | kergoth | hmm, whats changed in the .bb format since i was last involved? addition of 'require', what else? |
| 19:15.42 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 19:15.44 | pb_ | hi kergoth |
| 19:15.50 | zecke | kergoth: see the ChangeLog :} |
| 19:15.53 | HopsNBarley | hey gang. i'm not looking for a tutorial, but some tips on bringing up a new architecture would be amazingly helpful. |
| 19:15.54 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 19:18.17 | HopsNBarley | i'd start by co'ing the bitbake and openembedded stuff. |
| 19:18.39 | mickeyl | hi pb_, hi kergoth |
| 19:18.39 | HopsNBarley | there is a distro (lite5200) that's similar. |
| 19:19.09 | HopsNBarley | i'm lost on how much of the nslu2 stuff to use... |
| 19:19.36 | Crofton | HopsNBarley, just enought to make it work, not so much as to bloat it :) |
| 19:23.09 | HopsNBarley | Crofton, that's always the trick! |
| 19:23.13 | Crofton | :) |
| 19:23.33 | RP | zecke: I suspect there might be issues there - we could perhaps do with a different event type which let you access the data after the configuration reading stage or something... |
| 19:24.11 | RP | zecke: It did work when I was testing but that was probably as I was only working on a single package (so it does only run once per package)... |
| 19:24.41 | zecke | RP: I just guess it might not work |
| 19:25.13 | RP | zecke: It does to an extent but perhaps only partially :-/ |
| 19:25.40 | zecke | RP: ATM I'm trying to fix - aeh understand - the most horrible c code ever |
| 19:25.48 | zecke | ~lart mad_fcl |
| 19:26.48 | RP | zecke: :-/ |
| 19:34.50 | _law_ | hmm gpe doesnt boot since last update :-( |
| 19:35.11 | _law_ | /etc/X11/login-managers/ Permission denied |
| 19:36.01 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 19:37.00 | _law_ | Can?t open display (null) |
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| 19:39.27 | reenoo | which version of gpe-dm is that? I thought I had got rid of the login-manager dependency. |
| 19:40.21 | _law_ | gpe-dm 0.48-r2 |
| 19:40.41 | pH5 | _law_: do you have e17 installed? |
| 19:40.47 | _law_ | no gpe |
| 19:40.54 | pH5 | if not, just removing login-manager should fix this |
| 19:41.10 | _law_ | der isnt anything unter /etc/X11/login-managers/ |
| 19:41.40 | pH5 | _law_: that's because the change in gpe-dm that moved /etc/init.d/gpe-dm to /etc/X11/login-managers was reverted |
| 19:42.24 | Zero_Chaos | kergoth: ping |
| 19:42.25 | _law_ | pH5: starting gpe-dm manually works :-) |
| 19:42.52 | _law_ | so i only should remove login-manager from rc5.d ? |
| 19:43.21 | reenoo | _law_: ipkg remove login-manager |
| 19:43.29 | _law_ | okay |
| 19:45.13 | reenoo | pb_: does ipkg grok something like Conflicts: foo << 1.2 ? |
| 19:45.31 | pb_ | not sure |
| 19:45.41 | reenoo | actually < will do |
| 19:46.30 | reenoo | err |
| 19:46.52 | reenoo | that was supposed to read foo (< 1.2) of course ;) |
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| 19:51.01 | kergoth | Zero_Chaos: pong |
| 19:51.23 | Zero_Chaos | kergoth: out of curiousity, would you have time to upgrade nmap to 4.01 in OE? |
| 19:52.06 | kergoth | doubtful, i havent touched oe much in like a year |
| 19:52.11 | kergoth | feel free to send a patch to the list |
| 19:52.43 | Zero_Chaos | kergoth: I've been trying, apparently it's not that easy :-) I'll get it eventually I guess. |
| 19:53.13 | kergoth | hehe. well if i have some spare time i'll take a look, i've been meaning to get back into it some anyway |
| 19:53.36 | Zero_Chaos | kergoth: well, I'll submit it if I get it to work :-) |
| 19:53.44 | kergoth | good good |
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| 20:06.36 | _law_ | hmm gpe-dm only start manually init scripts always says Cant open display (null) |
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| 20:07.01 | _law_ | xmodmap: unable to open display localhost_0.0 |
| 20:07.07 | _law_ | localhost:0.0 |
| 20:07.21 | _law_ | starting it as root works fine |
| 20:07.23 | kergoth | hehe, http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg |
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| 20:09.03 | koen|train | hi all |
| 20:09.51 | awp__ | hey |
| 20:10.03 | pH5 | hey koen|train |
| 20:10.40 | koen|train | pH5: I wonder why glib 2.10 crashes gpe-bluetooth |
| 20:12.07 | koen|train | pH5: gconf-merge-tree is also a nice thing to do |
| 20:12.25 | koen|train | especially on jffs2 |
| 20:15.48 | pH5 | koen|train: because it uses threads. last time I tried against some glib 2.9.x, it crashed deep inside glib :-/ |
| 20:16.18 | _law_ | is it nomal that ther is no gpe-dm in rc5? |
| 20:16.21 | _law_ | only in rc3 |
| 20:16.47 | _law_ | rc2 |
| 20:16.56 | koen|train | rc1 |
| 20:16.59 | koen|train | blast off! |
| 20:17.29 | _law_ | koen|train: remove gpe-dm from rc 1 ? |
| 20:17.47 | koen|train | nah, I was just simulating a count down |
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| 20:18.34 | _law_ | koen|train: ok |
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| 20:22.21 | koen|train | ~stab inkscapeOSX |
| 20:22.22 | ibot | ACTION runs at inkscapeOSX with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 20:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - iboit is up on the times if he already has an oragami |
| 20:23.34 | koen|train | heh |
| 20:23.43 | koen|train | 1 kilo of winXP death |
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| 20:25.58 | _law_ | shouldnt gpe-dm also be in rc5 ? |
| 20:26.29 | koen|train | it should be |
| 20:26.37 | koen|train | unless you fell victim to the login-manager thing |
| 20:27.46 | _law_ | ok so i?ll add in manualy |
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| 20:33.09 | florian_ | re |
| 20:36.32 | _law_ | thats the clue |
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| 21:04.10 | zecke | e image is failing |
| 21:04.50 | zecke | JustinP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=4&logfile=20060309200900.log |
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| 21:41.15 | gremlin[it] | no one have problem with file-native package ??? |
| 21:42.01 | _law_ | gremlin[it]: whats your problem? |
| 21:42.23 | gremlin[it] | don-t compile |
| 21:42.38 | gremlin[it] | | ../src/file -C -m /mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/file-native-4.16-r1/file-4.16/magic/magic.mime |
| 21:42.38 | gremlin[it] | | ../src/file -C -m magic |
| 21:42.39 | gremlin[it] | | magic, 8022: Warning type `search/0x140 \x0\x40\x1\x0' invalid |
| 21:42.50 | gremlin[it] | and a lot more of errors after |
| 21:43.08 | _law_ | removedtmp/staging/$HOST_SYSTEM/bin/files ? |
| 21:43.39 | _law_ | remove alse: tmp/staging/$HOST_SYSTEM/*magic* stuff |
| 21:43.43 | _law_ | also |
| 21:44.40 | _law_ | i found some magic stuff in lib/ share/ ... |
| 21:45.41 | gremlin[it] | trying |
| 21:49.08 | rwhitby | I'm offline for about four days (holiday) - see you then! |
| 21:49.41 | _law_ | rwhitby: wish you nice holidays |
| 21:49.52 | gremlin[it] | ok now work ... mainly seem was the magic library of previous versine to cause the toubles |
| 21:50.01 | gremlin[it] | thanks _law_ |
| 21:50.06 | _law_ | gremlin[it]: np |
| 21:50.26 | _law_ | gremlin[it]: ran into same problem :-) |
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| 22:07.05 | JustinP | hell |
| 22:11.20 | JustinP | those aren't e-image failures..... |
| 22:15.59 | greentux | ~ibot |
| 22:16.00 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 22:17.57 | greentux | ~seen uli |
| 22:18.01 | ibot | uli <n=kurumin@dial-up-200-184-32-213.intelignet.com.br> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 165d 8h 13m 50s ago, saying: 'i'm new in this forum'. |
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| 22:58.04 | _law_ | n8 all |
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| 23:49.19 | Iron_Monk | hi. does anyone know of a CF card that uses a chipset for which I can find source code drivers, to use the control and address registers? |
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| 23:50.49 | Iron_Monk | like umm |
| 23:50.51 | Iron_Monk | ATHEROS? |
