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| 00:04.40 | ashak | Can bitbake utilize multiple cpus? |
| 00:04.54 | JustinP | no, but make can |
| 00:05.11 | JustinP | actually, bitbake *should* be able to distribute across multiple machine as well |
| 00:05.23 | JustinP | I think the program it can use is....icecream....but I never used it myself... |
| 00:06.10 | ashak | Might be time to update my dual athlon machine, it has to be faster than this centrino laptop. |
| 00:08.13 | ashak | ANyone know if it's possible to configure Opie for use without a touchscreen? |
| 00:10.45 | CIA-4 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r861bf5a8... 10/packages/meta/e-image.bb: e-image: add missing DEPENDS on e17-gpe-menu-convert |
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| 00:33.55 | JustinP | I guess everyone is sleeping... |
| 00:34.06 | JustinP | oh, finally |
| 00:34.12 | JustinP | NOTE: package gcc-3.4.4-r5: task do_compile: completed |
| 00:38.23 | ashak | Wow, Opie just booted on this device :) |
| 00:44.36 | JustinP | yay, NOTE: package e-image-1.0: started |
| 00:44.41 | JustinP | what device? |
| 00:47.19 | ashak | HTC Typhoon |
| 00:47.49 | ashak | Shame it's a smartphone and has no touchscreen. |
| 00:48.06 | ashak | Which is why I asked if anyone knows whether Opie can be controled without a touchscsreen. |
| 00:49.17 | emte | JustinP, you need a test of e-image? |
| 00:49.20 | NA|Zzz | ashak: Unlikely, I'd say... not at a usabe level, I'd imagine at least |
| 00:49.23 | NA|Zzz | *usable |
| 00:49.45 | emte | i'll update again and start it |
| 00:50.36 | JustinP | ashak: you should be abel to navigate ok, but *using* anything is going to be impossible...unless you have a tab key and a keyboard which work....and then still many things won't work |
| 00:50.53 | ashak | NA|Zzz I've been reading somewhere about the possibility of hacking small sections of qte, to enable display of a mouse pointer and then moving the pointer with the joystick |
| 00:50.54 | JustinP | emte: I'm testing e-image in oz354fam083 |
| 00:51.14 | JustinP | shadows: could be possible, hack it into tslib or something.... |
| 00:51.28 | JustinP | emte: I'll be comitting it before the day is out I think. e-image-core already works |
| 00:51.33 | emte | you could just disable tslib no? |
| 00:51.56 | JustinP | emte: and if you like you can test e-image in .dev, I was having some dependency issues and so decided to just switch to stable for today |
| 00:52.04 | ashak | JustinP: Heh, no, I habe 0-9, *, #, Dial, Hangup, up, down, left, right, select. home, backspace and the two keys by the screen whose names evade me at the moment. |
| 00:52.45 | emte | ouch ... i thought i updated yesterday ... |
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| 02:26.38 | shadows | i need like, a keyboard that attaches to a long USB cable and just has the arrow keys |
| 02:26.44 | shadows | or a remote ;) |
| 02:27.01 | shadows | bluetooth would work |
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| 02:27.30 | JustinP | ? |
| 02:28.41 | shadows | pressing laptop keyboard up/down arrows when reading e-books or documentation, it puts my arms at weird angles and strains my wrists |
| 02:29.24 | JustinP | ah yes |
| 02:29.50 | shadows | actually, a mouse will work |
| 02:30.18 | shadows | there's a mini-mouse that came with the zaurus kit i bought from guy |
| 02:30.26 | shadows | should be fine :) |
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| 02:38.55 | shadows | JustinP: i've got a nice chunk of fixes that are documented in bugtracker, whom might i grab tonight to review them for commit? |
| 02:41.44 | JustinP | heh |
| 02:41.50 | JustinP | I'll try to check them out |
| 02:42.04 | JustinP | I left them unread in my e-mail so I'd be able to find them ;-) |
| 02:42.31 | shadows | try search query... http://bugs.openembedded.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=shadow%40serverart.org&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1 |
| 02:42.32 | JustinP | just trying to finish my work on e-image in oz354fam083 so I can commit it... |
| 02:42.36 | shadows | okay |
| 02:43.03 | shadows | no rush here, i am exhausted from first day at new job today, so i wanted to find out before i fall asleep on my keyboard |
| 02:43.07 | JustinP | will do my best |
| 02:43.11 | shadows | awesome |
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| 04:21.22 | JustinP | NOTE: package e-image-1.0: completed |
| 04:21.37 | JustinP | ~cheer |
| 04:21.38 | ibot | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
| 04:21.46 | JustinP | lol |
| 04:21.47 | emte | lol |
| 04:22.11 | emte | man, this dbus stuff is not making any sense |
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| 04:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | What's this? Is the OE project actively looking at other SCMs currently? |
| 04:38.35 | JustinP | some people are |
| 04:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Good, monotone is slow |
| 04:39.03 | JustinP | so speed it up |
| 04:39.12 | JustinP | they *will* speed it up |
| 04:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, how? |
| 04:39.19 | JustinP | in fact, they have code which speeds it up already |
| 04:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | You can only do so much.. |
| 04:39.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Sticking the update in cron can only do so much |
| 04:39.44 | JustinP | it just needs to be tested so they can release it |
| 04:39.51 | JustinP | pfff |
| 04:39.59 | JustinP | there aren't *that* many revisions in a day |
| 04:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but when you have a crappy processor |
| 04:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Spending 30 minutes on a very very few number of revisions... isn't a happy thing |
| 04:40.35 | JustinP | and if my peasly little 800Mhz Celeron can deal with this anything you have can deal with it |
| 04:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a feeling this is more of a patience thing ;) |
| 04:40.58 | JustinP | exactly |
| 04:41.05 | JustinP | you don't need the updates *NOW* |
| 04:41.18 | JustinP | I like how monotone works |
| 04:41.23 | JustinP | the speed is something to be patient about |
| 04:42.03 | emte | ScytheBlade1, you installed the roster patches yet? |
| 04:42.20 | emte | apperently it doubles the speed of monotone |
| 04:42.25 | JustinP | exactly |
| 04:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | The fact that you can spend days getting the newest revisions, if you don't get the oe.db from random sites... just isn't a good thing |
| 04:42.41 | JustinP | (I sure haven't installed it yet for OE...but I know they're working on stabilizing it all) |
| 04:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | emte, no, I'm rather new here :) |
| 04:43.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, correction. I've been lurking and poking for several months now |
| 04:43.23 | ScytheBlade1 | But just got a project that will kick OE stuff into high gear |
| 04:43.25 | JustinP | if you're a developer you should be staying up to date. Using a snapshot makes perfect sense if you haven't pulled in a while |
| 04:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | *But I just |
| 04:43.55 | JustinP | and if you don't update in a while but don't want a snapshot...it's kind of your own fault for not pulling IMHO |
| 04:44.07 | emte | monotone currently has far more advantages then disadvantages |
| 04:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | See, that's the thing. monotone is the *only* SCM I've seen where it's faster to download a few hundred MB if you leave for a vacation for a week. |
| 04:44.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Props to what it's doing beind the CPU grinding, but hey |
| 04:44.40 | emte | the only other options are mercurial, and svk |
| 04:44.40 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not fast ;P |
| 04:44.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *behind |
| 04:45.01 | emte | and both those have thier own issues |
| 04:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | What's wrong with svk? (honest question, not like a biased one ;)) |
| 04:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure it's different, but "why not"? |
| 04:45.55 | emte | i can not remember the original reason for dismissing it now |
| 04:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough. |
| 04:46.36 | emte | i think it was issues with the scale fo OE and svk's capabilities |
| 04:46.50 | emte | of* |
| 04:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It works for KDE overall, but wouldn't for OE? 0_o |
| 04:47.38 | JustinP | OE is a different sort of project, of course |
| 04:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but still |
| 04:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I wouldn't really know ;P |
| 04:48.55 | emte | at the time of the switch there were over 100 developers committing at the same time with bitkeeper |
| 04:49.04 | JustinP | I suggest looking at the mailing list archives about all this |
| 04:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I shall |
| 04:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | emte, ah. |
| 04:49.24 | JustinP | there has been much discussion |
| 04:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, link to the archives? |
| 04:49.56 | emte | gmane has them i belive |
| 04:49.59 | JustinP | I've found monotone to be very stable and usable after a bit of a rocky start |
| 04:50.01 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 04:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the list name? |
| 04:50.28 | JustinP | the problems I've encountered have gotten far less prevalent |
| 04:50.41 | JustinP | I mean that I've run into no crashes or such in quite a while |
| 04:50.45 | JustinP | although I had some in the beginning |
| 04:50.54 | emte | openembedded i think |
| 04:50.58 | JustinP | they've cleared it up quite well |
| 04:51.11 | JustinP | oe@handhelds.org |
| 04:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope... |
| 04:51.36 | emte | ah, i thought we swithched before all that |
| 04:52.27 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 04:53.28 | JustinP | anyone know anything about pango? |
| 04:53.47 | emte | besides it being a glib dep? |
| 04:54.04 | JustinP | I'm getting problems starting GPE apps |
| 04:54.17 | emte | version conflict? |
| 04:54.21 | JustinP | nope |
| 04:54.26 | JustinP | "no modules"... |
| 04:54.42 | emte | pango has modules? |
| 04:54.54 | emte | new one on me |
| 04:57.13 | JustinP | (gpe-calculator:27520): Pango-WARNING **: No builtin or dynamically loaded modules |
| 04:57.24 | JustinP | were found. Pango will not work correctly. This probably means |
| 04:57.24 | JustinP | there was an error in the creation of: |
| 04:57.25 | JustinP | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.12 | JustinP | fixed the pango problem...they still segfault, though.... |
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| 05:41.47 | CIA-4 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r797ca312... 10/packages/base-files/base-files/spitz/fstab: base-files: fix spitz hdd fstab entry |
| 05:41.51 | CIA-4 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rb7f2a731... 10/ (119 files in 9 dirs): |
| 05:41.52 | CIA-4 | e: update to dev versions and make the images work |
| 05:41.52 | CIA-4 | - All efl and e17 packages are updated to newer versions |
| 05:41.52 | CIA-4 | - Update preferred-e-versions and add it back into familiar and openzaurus conf files |
| 05:41.52 | CIA-4 | - Update e-image to use GPE progs instead of extra e progs which have fallen into disrepair |
| 05:41.54 | CIA-4 | -- GPE progs currently don't work in e-image, I suspect a missing dependency |
| 05:44.12 | JustinP | seems to be related to pango.... |
| 05:44.15 | JustinP | grrrr |
| 05:45.34 | JustinP | I would just figure it out now... |
| 05:52.30 | JustinP | yay, fixed ^_^ |
| 05:52.39 | JustinP | working e-image (I think) |
| 05:52.59 | johnX | was it a missing dep? |
| 05:53.03 | CIA-4 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r310e1e96... 10/packages/meta/e-image.bb: e-image: fix pango module dependency |
| 05:53.07 | CIA-4 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r4dfda95c... 10/packages/meta/e-image.bb: e-image: add pango module dependency (fixes GPE progs) |
| 05:55.13 | JustinP | installing pango-module-base-fc fixed it |
| 05:56.06 | shadows | JustinP: nice :) |
| 06:00.15 | JustinP | shadows: :- |
| 06:00.17 | JustinP | ) |
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| 08:02.14 | koen | hey zecke |
| 08:03.53 | zecke | hey |
| 08:07.38 | hrw | morning |
| 08:08.15 | hrw | koen: for me it is ok that mreimer will update h2200 stuff |
| 08:08.43 | hrw | JustinP: thx for e-image work |
| 08:11.32 | hrw | fsck.. |
| 08:11.42 | hrw | ~lart monotone for meld usage |
| 08:12.44 | hrw | I hope that I did not fsck repo when monotone failed to run meld on merge |
| 08:13.26 | hrw | 'mt merge', if need to merge then run meld;if meld fails then assume that it is merged |
| 08:14.38 | koen | that sucks |
| 08:14.52 | koen | why did meld fail? |
| 08:15.16 | hrw | unable to open display |
| 08:15.55 | koen | D'oh |
| 08:16.07 | hrw | I added 'export VISUAL=vim' - maybe it will help next time (helped in past) |
| 08:16.24 | koen | set display, run monotone explicit_merge on the offending csets |
| 08:18.04 | hrw | o fsck.. 541 revs on homemachine to pull.. |
| 08:18.04 | hrw | monotone: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in | revs written |
| 08:18.04 | hrw | monotone: 2,6 M | 306,7 k | 2357 | 541 | 0 |
| 08:18.04 | hrw | buuu.. |
| 08:19.03 | hrw | koen: which one would be offending csets? I got screen cleared and now 'monotone merge' show 'is merged' misuse messge.. |
| 08:19.50 | koen | hrw: check viewmtn/monotone log for the merge cset |
| 08:19.57 | koen | that lists the mergees |
| 08:21.59 | hrw | mt log show same as viewmtn |
| 08:22.11 | hrw | order a bit other but same |
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| 08:32.11 | hrw | ok time togo |
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| 08:58.46 | richard2 | morning all |
| 08:59.13 | accumulator | morning |
| 08:59.27 | accumulator | hmmm apmd still unstable in 3.5.4-test5 |
| 08:59.30 | accumulator | damn |
| 09:03.54 | hrw|work | re |
| 09:04.02 | hrw|work | accumulator: on sl-a300? |
| 09:04.33 | accumulator | nope on 5500(g) |
| 09:05.11 | hrw|work | worked on my 5500 with gpe |
| 09:05.36 | accumulator | it behaves the same as 3.5.3/opie + apm -r6 |
| 09:05.57 | accumulator | apmd just TERMs or SEGVs (dont know which) |
| 09:06.48 | accumulator | can apmd_proxy cause this? e.g. non-zero exit status? |
| 09:06.56 | hrw|work | hmm.too bad that you didnot said it 0.5h ago.. when I was able to check |
| 09:07.08 | accumulator | just woke up, sorry :) |
| 09:08.13 | katossi | anyone konws something about that one-way way with akita en kernel 2.6? no way to come back to 2.4? |
| 09:08.55 | hrw|work | katossi: oops when try to mount flash under 2.4? |
| 09:09.39 | katossi | didn't try |
| 09:10.05 | RP | katossi: Why is the 2.6 kernel one way? |
| 09:10.32 | koen | RP: could be that jffs2 thing CoreDump|afk talked about |
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| 09:10.45 | katossi | from blog.hentges.net :A note of warning: Do not use kernel 2.6 on your Akita. There will be no way back to kernel 2.4 w/o a NAND restore at this time. |
| 09:11.35 | katossi | but a friend of my in the uni told me the same thing, I could not beliebe it |
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| 09:11.54 | koen | thanks to sharp 2.4, you need a nand-restore |
| 09:12.25 | Blaz | hello there |
| 09:14.40 | RP | akita is a large page flash device and I guess the handling in 2.6 could be imcompativle with the hacks Sharp added to 2.4 :-( |
| 09:14.53 | RP | 2.4 technically never handled large page flash devices... |
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| 09:15.35 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 09:16.05 | johnX | RP: that's very interesting...I guess that makes my choice of sticking with 2.6 even easier |
| 09:17.01 | accumulator | prism3-support effectively disables all non-wifi interfaces. will roll an update |
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| 09:17.39 | accumulator | grr |
| 09:19.04 | accumulator | where do I send new ipks? |
| 09:19.18 | koen | ipkgs? |
| 09:19.34 | koen | OE doesn't use ipkg, it builds them |
| 09:19.41 | accumulator | ok |
| 09:19.50 | accumulator | where do I send my diffs then :) |
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| 09:20.53 | koen | add them to a bug |
| 09:21.00 | koen | http://bugs.treke.net |
| 09:21.07 | accumulator | k doe ik |
| 09:21.47 | Pigi | hi koen ! |
| 09:23.24 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 09:23.33 | koen | Pigi: sorry, still haven't tried .159 |
| 09:23.34 | hrw|work | hi Pigi |
| 09:23.41 | Pigi | hi hrw|work ! |
| 09:23.52 | Pigi | koen, np. |
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| 09:31.53 | hrw|work | lack of RTC in zauruses is pain.. at ~03:00 I was awaken because gpe-calendar started alarm in second room.. event from last saturday |
| 09:32.07 | shadows | yuck |
| 09:32.18 | shadows | is there no RTC, or is it not supported |
| 09:33.27 | RP | hrw|work: Was the clock wrong or was it just generally insane? |
| 09:34.25 | hrw|work | RP: clock wrong |
| 09:35.28 | RP | hrw|work: Nothing we want do about it (other than ntpupdate) :-/ |
| 09:37.59 | hrw|work | s/want/can't |
| 09:38.45 | shadows | oh, fun, i found the first DVD movie i ever made from linux |
| 09:39.27 | RP | My typing sucks even more than normal this morning :-/ |
| 09:40.44 | hrw|work | I have to find dvdrw to buy |
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| 09:43.28 | ade|desk | morning all |
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| 09:56.21 | hrw|work | JustinP: NOTE: Not creating empty archive for edje-themes-0.5.0.023-r6 |
| 09:56.27 | hrw|work | JustinP: its normal? |
| 09:58.17 | katossi | is the wrt54 image usable at all? |
| 09:59.03 | pb__ | hi Pigi |
| 09:59.16 | Pigi | hi pb__ |
| 09:59.18 | hrw|work | katossi: its unmaintained |
| 09:59.25 | katossi | aha |
| 09:59.36 | hrw|work | katossi: anyway packages build with this setting work on openwrt |
| 09:59.38 | gremlin[it] | Hi Pigi |
| 09:59.54 | Pigi | 'morning gremlin[it] ! |
| 09:59.55 | hrw|work | katossi: I build some stuff for my wrt54gs |
| 10:00.25 | katossi | good, I'll give it a try |
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| 10:13.09 | hrw|work | NOTE: package e-image-1.0-r5: task do_rootfs: started |
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| 10:14.44 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 10:15.07 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 10:16.41 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
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| 10:24.36 | minipanda | hi, peoples, is that possible to build an package for mips-eb target use OE's script? |
| 10:25.00 | hrw|work | | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-e-x11-core: |
| 10:25.00 | hrw|work | | entrance tslib-conf |
| 10:25.04 | minipanda | or there are already a familiar .conf for such kind of board? like wrt54g? |
| 10:25.11 | hrw|work | JustinP: lack of DEPENDS in e-image? |
| 10:27.51 | hrw|work | minipanda: familiar is distro - you need machine config |
| 10:28.23 | hrw|work | minipanda: look at wrt54g or mtx-1 configs - they are mips machines (but rather mipsel not mipseb) |
| 10:29.42 | minipanda | hrw|work: alright ... so i just ask out and try to make sure ... |
| 10:29.45 | accumulator | ipkg packages db gets removed on each boot? |
| 10:30.11 | minipanda | hrw|work: if mipseb build have issues, then is that very easy to deal with? |
| 10:30.17 | accumulator | var/lib/ipkg is empty every time |
| 10:30.30 | minipanda | hrw|work: or OE use any kind of magic to deal with el and eb for each pacakge? |
| 10:31.04 | johnX | I think that /var is a tmpfs |
| 10:32.13 | hrw|work | minipanda: TARGET_ARCH define it iirc |
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| 10:33.33 | hrw|work | accumulator: want to use flash for them? you do not have free space for it on 5500 |
| 10:35.49 | accumulator | hmm |
| 10:36.32 | accumulator | must have been on ram before.. now its tmpfs |
| 10:36.36 | accumulator | never mind |
| 10:36.46 | Bernardo | wrt54g... just got myself a cheap one from fon, when it gets here I'll have another target to play with... |
| 10:36.54 | johnX | accumulator: if you have an SD card that you leave in all the time that would be a good place to keep it |
| 10:39.13 | accumulator | I know, i'm just checking thew defaults :) |
| 10:39.27 | johnX | ah, ok |
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| 10:45.18 | hrw|work | Pigi: can ipkg stops after ERROR? now it display ERROR and start postinst scripts |
| 10:45.19 | ai2097 | Hey all. ipkg update && ipkg upgrade -> uninstalled busybox before doing anything else, and totally broke the system. |
| 10:45.52 | Pigi | hrw|work, can you send me some log ? |
| 10:46.02 | accumulator | ai2097: 3.5.4-test5? |
| 10:46.37 | ai2097 | accumulator: I'd love to give a version number, but the system is an NSLU2, and I can't get into it at the moment... because busybox is gone, and that's the shell :p. |
| 10:46.40 | hrw|work | Pigi: will do |
| 10:47.07 | hrw|work | ai2097: updating busybox was always tricky.. |
| 10:47.29 | ai2097 | Yes, but uninstalling before fetching is just insane -- for -any- package. |
| 10:47.31 | Pigi | koen, I think it will be better to test and upgrade to .159 before other troubles :) |
| 10:47.45 | Pigi | ai2097, it's a bug we are working on.. |
| 10:47.56 | ai2097 | Pigi: Good enough for me. |
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| 11:05.07 | koen | http://www.palmsource.com/press/2006/021406_accesslinuxplatform.html |
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| 11:05.22 | koen | mentions a gtk version of netfront |
| 11:05.37 | hrw|work | ok. its bug in OE |
| 11:05.58 | ade|desk | guess we should put a note out about copying busybox to another binary switch to that busybox shell before doing an upgrade |
| 11:06.34 | koen | I guess people should remove the new busybox from the feeds |
| 11:07.37 | ade|desk | hmm that too |
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| 11:16.12 | hrw|work | http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=8388 |
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| 11:23.52 | greentux | ~seen cosmicpenguin |
| 11:23.55 | ibot | cosmicpenguin is currently on #oe (11h 22m 58s) #elinux (11h 22m 58s), last said: 'thats sourceforge for ya'. |
| 11:26.05 | hrw|work | e17 is coming to my Z.. |
| 11:29.56 | shadows | after 3 hours of poking, i finally convinced Debian Installer to co-operate with a SATA optical drive |
| 11:30.22 | shadows | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerSataAtapiHowto in case anyone ever needs to do that sort of thing. |
| 11:30.39 | hrw|work | dbus has update-rc.d on device instead of rootfs creating |
| 11:30.54 | hrw|work | shadows: sata cdrom/dvd or dvdrw? |
| 11:31.28 | shadows | cdrw dvdrom |
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| 11:32.37 | shadows | newer laptop computers have completely SATA interconnects |
| 11:32.55 | shadows | ATAPI/SATA for the optical drives, SATA hard disks |
| 11:33.03 | minipanda | shadows: yea, just like ibm T43 |
| 11:33.18 | shadows | *nod* that's what's in front of me |
| 11:33.36 | minipanda | and even SATA device support suspend features since 2.6.15-rc6 |
| 11:33.50 | shadows | Ubuntu installer worked flawlessly |
| 11:34.03 | shadows | however i find myself not agreeable to Ubuntu limitations |
| 11:34.17 | minipanda | why use ubuntu? gentoo livecd is more fashion |
| 11:34.40 | shadows | it is for work |
| 11:35.28 | shadows | i won't be needing to compile anything, and if i must install a program, it will be done immediately |
| 11:38.02 | minipanda | shadows: em ... agree, and why not just stock debian but ubuntu? |
| 11:39.15 | shadows | ubuntu is the *only* thing that installed unmodified |
| 11:39.24 | shadows | i had to have an OS on the thing monday morning at work |
| 11:39.41 | shadows | so, now i am re-doing it with a debian install |
| 11:39.52 | shadows | debian installer does not support SATA ATAPI feature |
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| 11:40.26 | minipanda | oh, blame martin michmayer |
| 11:40.30 | shadows | :) |
| 11:40.38 | shadows | yes of course i will ;) |
| 11:40.59 | shadows | anyhow, i spent 2-3 hours hacking, and made it work |
| 11:42.33 | minipanda | shadows: well, i have to say, you're very lucky ... |
| 11:43.02 | minipanda | shadows: i've dig into my OE issue for whole afternoon, but still have no clue what's wrong :( |
| 11:43.08 | shadows | oh |
| 11:43.10 | shadows | what OE issue? |
| 11:43.27 | shadows | bug # please ? |
| 11:48.25 | minipanda | shadows: well, i failed to run "bitbake task-bootstrap" |
| 11:48.44 | minipanda | shadows: and i'm not sure it's a bug or caused by my own fault |
| 11:48.56 | minipanda | shadows: and let me show your more details on pastebin |
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| 11:53.07 | minipanda | shadows: still around? |
| 11:53.08 | minipanda | shadows: http://pastebin.com/554121 |
| 11:54.00 | shadows | sure |
| 11:54.33 | shadows | bad memory? |
| 11:54.51 | minipanda | shadows: bad memory? oh, what's that? |
| 11:55.00 | shadows | it's when your memory goes bad |
| 11:55.02 | shadows | and things break |
| 11:55.07 | shadows | try diagnosing your hardware |
| 11:55.13 | shadows | don't tell me it works fine otherwise |
| 11:55.27 | minipanda | shadows: hehe, my T43 have 1G low mem at the momoent |
| 11:55.27 | shadows | just go diagnose it with memtest86 or something, to be 100% sure |
| 11:55.56 | shadows | the other cause would be insane CFLAGS |
| 11:56.03 | minipanda | shadows: and the same symphton i meet on just stock 2.6.15 kernel from kernel.org |
| 11:56.08 | shadows | since you mentioned your affiliation with Gentoo |
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| 11:56.26 | shadows | i'd bet a dollar it's either bad memory or your use of Gentoo OS |
| 11:56.41 | minipanda | CFLAGS="-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr -frename-registers -fprefetch-loop-arrays -falign-functions=64" |
| 11:56.52 | minipanda | shadows: em ... i'm not sure, but that's possible |
| 11:57.18 | minipanda | shadows: BTW: CFLAGS for which app will cause bitbake script broken? |
| 12:01.48 | shadows | minipanda: impossible to know |
| 12:02.25 | minipanda | shadows: so ... i just suspect whether this was caused by Memory curruption |
| 12:02.48 | shadows | go test your machine, use memtest86.com utilities |
| 12:04.15 | hrw|work | memtest86+ better |
| 12:04.34 | minipanda | shadows: well, it's just a brand new lenovo T43 :-) |
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| 12:10.57 | greentux | somebody knows how to access openzaurus.org? |
| 12:11.37 | hrw|work | openzaurus.sf.net |
| 12:14.09 | minipanda | shadows: i'm pretty sure that's not caused by my gentoo system |
| 12:14.09 | hrw|work | ~seen JustinP |
| 12:14.13 | ibot | justinp is currently on #oe (18h 4m 53s) #openzaurus (18h 4m 53s). Has said a total of 205 messages. Is idling for 6h 13m 56s, last said: ')'. |
| 12:14.16 | greentux | hrw|work: tnx, looking for the instructions how repartition the borsoi... |
| 12:14.17 | minipanda | shadows: the same script for build bootstarp broken on my redhat AS4 server as well! |
| 12:14.39 | minipanda | shadows: so ... it's must cause by another reason |
| 12:14.50 | shadows | did you run the test on your RAM or not |
| 12:15.01 | greentux | hrw|work: found, but how can i access fdisk at original sharp? |
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| 12:15.22 | hrw|work | greentux: use terminal? |
| 12:15.51 | minipanda | shadows: no, i didn't, if i processed memetest, then i can't chat with you anymore |
| 12:15.54 | greentux | hrw|work: ok, looking for... :) |
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| 12:17.33 | shadows | *twiddles fingers* before i help you with anything, i want to know for sure your RAM is okay. maybe someone else would care to help you? |
| 12:17.42 | hrw|work | kergoth: ping |
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| 12:18.42 | greentux | hrw|work: did it. fine |
| 12:20.21 | minipanda | shadows: ok ... seems it's start to build on my rhas4 now ... |
| 12:20.43 | minipanda | shadows: well, i have to reboot to use memtest86 and memtest86plus now :-( |
| 12:20.50 | minipanda | shadows: so, chat later ... :-) |
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| 12:45.46 | lrg|home | morning all |
| 12:47.19 | hrw|work | hi Liam |
| 12:47.43 | lrg|home | Hi Marcin, back from Shanghai now. |
| 12:48.18 | hrw|work | lrg|home: how was your Chinese? |
| 12:48.49 | lrg|home | hrw|work: I now know hello, and the characters for entry and exit |
| 12:49.03 | lrg|home | I can also now use chop sticks :) |
| 12:49.24 | hrw|work | I have chop sticks in drawer in kitchen |
| 12:50.05 | lrg|home | You learn pretty quick when they are no knives or forks available ;) |
| 12:50.17 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 12:50.38 | hrw|work | I suppose |
| 12:51.09 | lrg|home | I'll email some news of the trip |
| 12:59.32 | hrw|work | I'm building e17 for all zauruses now |
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| 13:08.02 | koen | hrw|work: try http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/gpe-theme-e17_1.0.bb |
| 13:09.32 | hrw|work | koen: will but first I need JustinP or CoreDump to get it really working.. |
| 13:09.54 | hrw|work | after flash I had to run X by hand, then by hand gpe-conf screen to get calibration |
| 13:10.00 | hrw|work | no gpe apps in menus etc.. |
| 13:10.08 | koen | hmmm |
| 13:10.14 | koen | needs some polish |
| 13:10.20 | hrw|work | yep |
| 13:10.31 | hrw|work | I will not give it to users in this shape |
| 13:11.48 | koen | I suspect the loginmanager stuff isn't in the branch yet |
| 13:11.57 | hrw|work | probably |
| 13:12.18 | hrw|work | I prefer leaving it for JustinP to care |
| 13:12.39 | hrw|work | and images needs some love too - chkhinge is not needed on !clamshells for example |
| 13:13.06 | hrw|work | 29858K Feb 14 13:26 e-image-3.5.4-test5-collie.rootfs.jffs2 ;) |
| 13:13.14 | koen | heh |
| 13:13.50 | hrw|work | e17 for collie only as tarball (if CoreDump update altboot) |
| 13:13.51 | koen | interesting: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2006-02/msg00102.html |
| 13:14.24 | koen | if only someone would implement it |
| 13:21.03 | XorA | morning |
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| 13:21.15 | koen | hmmm |
| 13:21.17 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
| 13:21.25 | koen | http://mt.xaraya.com/com.xaraya.core/index.psp looks like a patched viewmtn |
| 13:24.03 | hrw|work | patched? css changed |
| 13:24.42 | koen | hrw|work: 'status' and 'description' |
| 13:25.36 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:31.28 | XorA | shadows: hows amd64 building going? |
| 13:34.47 | shadows | XorA: successful |
| 13:34.58 | shadows | XorA: waiting for patches to all be committed to OE before continuing |
| 13:35.03 | XorA | shadows: have you build gdbm? |
| 13:35.09 | shadows | i don't know, probably |
| 13:35.32 | XorA | shadows: can you check, I am unable to get that to build, and I need to verify if its a 64bit problem or other |
| 13:35.34 | shadows | there's a handful of bugs if you have commit access and want something to do |
| 13:35.55 | XorA | shadows: I have seen, but a lot of the bugs are in packages others really maintain |
| 13:36.04 | shadows | yeah |
| 13:36.30 | XorA | shadows: I dont think any in that queue I am comfortable with, even my own one :-) |
| 13:39.20 | shadows | what are you not comfortable with |
| 13:39.29 | shadows | tell me which bug number, and why. |
| 13:39.54 | XorA | shadows: just because they are core packages and no-one seems to be commenting on the bugs, no consensus |
| 13:40.55 | shadows | no one comments on this stuff because the URL is treke and not openembedded |
| 13:41.00 | shadows | if you have been following the lists |
| 13:41.16 | shadows | plus, i have made everything available as patches, so you can easily see what i intend to change |
| 13:41.16 | XorA | shadows: I do, but the core devs know to use treke.net :-) |
| 13:41.29 | shadows | yes |
| 13:41.37 | shadows | RP has committed several of my patches already |
| 13:41.50 | XorA | shadows: cool |
| 13:42.14 | shadows | i presume he does not have time to sit and go through them all, please do your share of the work |
| 13:42.43 | shadows | i've done my part clearing the way for a gcc4 cross intitial compatible gpe-image build |
| 13:44.09 | XorA | shadows: are only the perl and sqlite bugs still pending? |
| 13:44.14 | greentux | hi lrg|home |
| 13:44.35 | shadows | XorA: don't forget the updates to gtk-webcore |
| 13:44.41 | shadows | those are very important |
| 13:44.47 | XorA | shadows: gcc 4.0 is a seperate issue |
| 13:44.55 | koen | wow |
| 13:45.01 | koen | lrg|home: cool |
| 13:45.09 | XorA | shadows: I do not use gcc 4.0 so I wont be able to help with them |
| 13:45.27 | shadows | XorA: the patches (have you looked at them?) are not specific to gcc 4.0 |
| 13:45.57 | shadows | it means that what we are doing now when the cross initial is gcc 3.x, is -wrong- |
| 13:46.09 | shadows | it just happens to compile |
| 13:46.16 | XorA | shadows: Id like to keep seperate problems caused by bad assumptions on amd64 seperate from gcc issues |
| 13:47.29 | shadows | for gtk-webcore i update the compiler flags to match what the Apple developers use in their IDE project files, no thread safe statics |
| 13:51.39 | koen | any volunteers for http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006CallForPresentations ? |
| 13:52.38 | XorA | bugger, wonder if I can con a trick to San Jose office that week |
| 13:53.24 | koen | convince celf to fund your trip |
| 13:54.05 | lrg|home | greentux: Hi. could I get use of the borzoi for another 2 weeks as I've been a bit held up as off late. |
| 13:54.35 | greentux | lrg|home: two weeks after fosdem? |
| 13:54.54 | lrg|home | greentux: yes thanks |
| 13:55.13 | XorA | greentux: hey, hows your mmc/sd devel going? |
| 13:55.44 | greentux | XorA: work is going on. we devel a own sd card... |
| 13:56.01 | XorA | greentux: cool, will be nice to see |
| 13:58.10 | greentux | lrg|home: rp wrote me some ideas of simplifying the mixer cannels |
| 13:58.19 | greentux | XorA: give me 6 months... |
| 13:59.24 | XorA | greentux: is it going to have storage + cool shiot? |
| 14:00.10 | greentux | XorA: yes, storage + sc... we are looking for a nice sd controller... in the moment we wanna use a arm7 |
| 14:00.47 | hrw|work | koen: Proposals for presentations, demos and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions must be received by February 15, 2006. |
| 14:00.54 | hrw|work | koen: so its timing |
| 14:01.14 | XorA | hrw|work: just send mickys OE slides |
| 14:01.16 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:01.23 | XorA | hrw|work: you can always change it nearer the date |
| 14:01.45 | hrw|work | XorA: :) |
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| 14:03.27 | lrg|home | greentux: excellent. I started looking at this last week. We also have some help with this. |
| 14:04.47 | greentux | lrg|home: ok, will start to test voip app |
| 14:05.59 | greentux | lrg|home: sound playing is ok. perfect. |
| 14:07.31 | hrw|work | greentux: amount of mixer controls will scary most of users |
| 14:07.35 | hrw|work | iirc |
| 14:08.38 | greentux | hrw|work: yes, i know. so i organised something, that we can solve that |
| 14:08.51 | hrw|work | I know |
| 14:09.13 | hrw|work | no hurry anyway |
| 14:10.40 | lrg|home | greentux, hrw|work: I'll be emailing RP soon about this. |
| 14:10.47 | hrw|work | lrg|home: just readed mail - nice work |
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| 14:18.10 | koen | NOTE: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/edje.pc |
| 14:18.11 | koen | hmmm |
| 14:18.15 | koen | that should be in the -dev package |
| 14:23.34 | koen | | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/i686-linux/bin/edje_cc: Error. <stdin>:434 token FRAME not one of: RAW COMP LOSSY USER| /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/i686-linux/bin/edje_cc: Opening "/tmp/edje_cc.edc-tmp-U6UVtE" for input |
| 14:23.39 | koen | looks familiar |
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| 14:52.06 | zecke | koen|away: did you read the Palm/Access news? |
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| 15:20.01 | koen | zecke: I did read that |
| 15:20.43 | pb__ | lrg|home: thanks for your mail |
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| 15:26.56 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:27.23 | JustinP | hrw|work: :-) |
| 15:27.35 | JustinP | hrw|work: yes, those are normal, not all of the efl has examples/themes/etc |
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| 15:28.40 | JustinP | hrw|work: I don't understand...it worked for me last night.... |
| 15:29.49 | JustinP | hrw|work: you're right, though....I don't have DEPENDS for task-e-x11-core.... |
| 15:30.48 | JustinP | hrw|work: I just don't understand how it was working for me...... |
| 15:34.48 | CoreDump|home | +mhentges@mhcln03:/tmp >ls -al jffs2.diff |
| 15:34.49 | CoreDump|home | -rw-r--r-- 1 mhentges mhentges 796666 2006-02-14 16:35 jffs2.diff |
| 15:35.00 | CoreDump|home | what the hell did they do to that driver grr |
| 15:35.24 | JustinP | CoreDump|home: tried the oz354fam083 e-image yet? ^_^ |
| 15:36.01 | CoreDump|home | my /home is still unreadable to a 2.4 kernel so where's the point? But I tried it a few weeks back. |
| 15:36.13 | CoreDump|home | ohh e-image |
| 15:37.41 | JustinP | it *should* be working in .dev as well....but there are lib problems thanks to shadows' updates..... |
| 15:37.49 | JustinP | shadows: libsvg is giving me problems now |
| 15:37.51 | hrw|work | JustinP: I had to start X by hand, then start "gpe-conf screen" by hand to get calibration, no gpe apps in menus |
| 15:38.15 | JustinP | hrw|work: GPE apps get in menus when you run e17-gpe-menu-convert.sh |
| 15:38.27 | JustinP | hrw|work: I'll add a postinst for it, but it takes a *while* to run.... |
| 15:38.42 | hrw|work | JustinP: 1st boot take long time anyway.. |
| 15:38.44 | JustinP | hrw|work: if you had to start X by hand something is wrong. If you didn't get entrance, that's the problem |
| 15:39.03 | JustinP | hrw|work: again, it worked fine for me last night....no idea why your build would fail |
| 15:39.08 | hrw|work | JustinP: I can give you rootfs which I got |
| 15:39.11 | JustinP | hrw|work: what machine/distro? |
| 15:39.19 | JustinP | hrw|work: sure, that could be helpful |
| 15:39.29 | hrw|work | oz 3.5.4-test5 - machine any - which you want? |
| 15:39.51 | hrw|work | JustinP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/ |
| 15:40.04 | hrw|work | JustinP: e-image, e-image-core |
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| 15:41.32 | RP | lrg|home: welcome back :) |
| 15:41.36 | JustinP | hrw|work: did you test e-image or e-image-core? |
| 15:41.46 | RP | lrg|home: I'll forward you the mail I sent to greentux |
| 15:41.55 | JustinP | well...if -core isn't working neither will e-image |
| 15:43.34 | hrw|work | JustinP: e-image |
| 15:45.23 | danil | pb_,recently you and Erik discussed a new kernel branch on h5400 mailing list. (h41 if i am not mistaken). Is there a bb in OE for this? |
| 15:47.45 | CoreDump|home | RP: I ran the jff2 oops through ksymoops as you requested: http://hentges.net/tmp/oops.txt |
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| 15:50.55 | RP | CoreDump|home: Thanks, that makes it much more readable! |
| 15:51.18 | CoreDump|home | indeed. The compressors aren't to blame |
| 15:51.32 | RP | CoreDump|home: It shows the problem is within jffs2. I suspect I know why as well |
| 15:51.36 | JustinP | hrw|work: strange....your tarballs are a bit larger than mine... |
| 15:51.52 | RP | The mtd chip in akita is a newer style large page flash device |
| 15:53.04 | JustinP | hrw|work: your images look fine to me |
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| 15:53.22 | JustinP | hrw|work: I'll try to put your e-image in my Z.... |
| 15:53.35 | RP | CoreDump|home: I suspect the 2.4 driver combines several eraseblocks into one big eraseblock and only works on the larger units. Under 2.6, it works on the pages individually. |
| 15:53.53 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 15:54.02 | RP | CoreDump|home: If the 2.6 drive breaks the alignment into smaller secitons, the 2.4 driver probably can't cope |
| 15:54.12 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 15:54.21 | CoreDump|home | sounds complicated heh |
| 15:54.36 | RP | I'd forgotten akita was large page. |
| 15:54.51 | lrg|home | RP: thanks |
| 15:55.16 | CoreDump|home | s/akita/ SL-Cxxxx |
| 15:55.24 | RP | CoreDump|home: It caused me a lot of grief and I ended up borrowing an akita to get the 2.6 driver working with it at all |
| 15:55.29 | XorA | ~lart my lack of libtool knowledge |
| 15:55.30 | RP | CoreDump|home: No. Its only akita |
| 15:55.48 | CoreDump|home | RP: JustinP was seeing problems, too on his spitz |
| 15:56.01 | RP | and perhaps borzoi. Spitz is small page |
| 15:56.20 | CoreDump|home | he had the exact same problem AFAIK |
| 15:56.32 | CoreDump|home | JustinP: ? |
| 15:56.39 | RP | If justinp had the same issue it means page size can't be the problem |
| 15:56.48 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
| 15:56.56 | RP | but the flash in spitz is the same as the flash in c7x0 |
| 15:57.11 | RP | and my c7x0 worked in 2.4 |
| 15:57.19 | RP | (after using 2.6) |
| 15:57.23 | CoreDump|home | interesting |
| 15:57.32 | koen | as well as it could work with 2.4-crappix |
| 15:57.39 | CoreDump|home | koen: indeed |
| 16:00.04 | CoreDump|home | RP: maybe it's a kernel 2.6.15 thing. |
| 16:00.32 | RP | CoreDump|home: Could be. I know jffs2 has got a little more progressive more recently |
| 16:00.44 | JustinP | RP, CoreDump|home: no, I didn't have the same problem |
| 16:00.54 | RP | I'd only tested 2.4 back at say 2.6.11 :) |
| 16:01.03 | JustinP | apparently I just needed a newer "boot" partition... |
| 16:01.06 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 16:01.13 | JustinP | I've never altered my flash with 2.6 |
| 16:01.15 | JustinP | I have no need |
| 16:02.32 | CoreDump|home | damn those microdrive users =) |
| 16:03.44 | JustinP | ~hug the spitz |
| 16:03.46 | ibot | ACTION hugs the spitz |
| 16:03.47 | RP | I'd strongly suspect its the page size on akita |
| 16:06.29 | CoreDump|home | Is there any indication on the part of the function that failed in the oops? |
| 16:08.04 | RP | Its scanning the eraseblocks and something in the scanning function failed |
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| 16:08.31 | RP | That would indicate it couldn't read something to do with the format on the disk |
| 16:08.46 | RP | well, it could read but couldn't understand |
| 16:16.36 | CoreDump|home | any idea how to enable D1(printk(KERN_DEBUG "blahh") |
| 16:17.09 | koen | with CONFIG_LL_DEBUG ? |
| 16:18.29 | hrw|work | JustinP: where I need to put image to be able to set it as background in e17? |
| 16:19.28 | hrw|work | JustinP: vera fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/ttf/ and in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/fonts/ ;( |
| 16:24.18 | JustinP | hrw|work: e uses themes for that stuff I believe... |
| 16:24.32 | JustinP | hrw|work: as for the fonts....of they're in both places I suppose that should be fixed |
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| 16:28.12 | RP | CoreDump|home: That looks like one of the mtd debugging statements - it is controlled by a kconfig option? |
| 16:28.34 | RP | JFFS2_DEBUG= looks likely |
| 16:28.55 | CoreDump|home | I'm hoping for CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=3 to work =) |
| 16:29.52 | RP | CoreDump|home: be warned that they spew a lot of data |
| 16:30.01 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 16:30.09 | CoreDump|home | I'll see |
| 16:32.11 | hrw|work | ~curse scap for being shit on vga zaurus/2.6 |
| 16:32.13 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, scap for being shit on vga zaurus/2.6 ! |
| 16:32.13 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31494.png |
| 16:33.58 | koen | try gpe-screenshot |
| 16:34.18 | koen | that just requests X for a screenshot |
| 16:34.21 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I scap all the time |
| 16:34.25 | CoreDump|home | works perfectly |
| 16:34.39 | CoreDump|home | gpe-screenshot rocks |
| 16:34.57 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: gpe-screenshot rocks |
| 16:35.03 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: cli version of scap suxx |
| 16:35.07 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 16:35.30 | CoreDump|home | the distorted image is really the fault of the hh.org CGI |
| 16:35.39 | JustinP | hrw|work: your image works fine for me, X come sup on its own and I get the calibrate screen right off as I should |
| 16:36.02 | hrw|work | JustinP: fsck.. I will rebuild c7x0 one then |
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| 16:36.43 | JustinP | hrw|work: it *could* be a problem with the c7x0....as I said, I've never tested on anything but spitz |
| 16:36.59 | JustinP | hrw|work: also, you sure you have enough space for the image? the e-image is large |
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| 16:38.22 | hrw|work | JustinP: 64M flash/dev/mtdblock2 54272 33268 21004 61% / |
| 16:38.37 | hrw|work | JustinP: ok. 53M of flash |
| 16:39.42 | JustinP | hmmm |
| 16:39.45 | JustinP | fsck |
| 16:39.51 | JustinP | some GPE progs still not working |
| 16:39.59 | JustinP | why the hell aren't they pulling in their deps? |
| 16:40.08 | JustinP | now it says it can't load XPM images |
| 16:40.48 | JustinP | what do I need to install for GdkPixmap to work? |
| 16:41.08 | XorA | JustinP: the plugins |
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| 16:41.28 | JustinP | XorA: what plugins? |
| 16:41.36 | XorA | JustinP: |
| 16:41.37 | JustinP | XorA: and what's installing them for the GPE image? |
| 16:41.42 | XorA | JustinP: gdk-loader-* |
| 16:43.19 | JustinP | nothing references gdk-loader- in the bb tree... |
| 16:44.16 | hrw|work | JustinP: include (task|meta)-gpe in (task|meta)-e and use it |
| 16:44.17 | koen | gdk-pixbuf-loader-<imageformat> |
| 16:44.18 | XorA | JustinP: sorry, mistyped, gdk-pixbuf-loader-* |
| 16:47.40 | Pigi | See ya all |
| 16:48.44 | hrw|work | JustinP: e17-gpe-menu-convert.sh does not test does something was already converted? |
| 16:50.26 | JustinP | hrw|work: no |
| 16:50.35 | JustinP | hrw|work: I'm going to alter it to do just that |
| 16:51.06 | hrw|work | Converting /usr/share/applications/xmonobut.desktop to xmonobut.eap |
| 16:51.06 | hrw|work | edje_cc: Error. unable to load image for image "xmonobut.xpm" part entry to /home/root/.e/e/applications/all/xmonobut.eap |
| 16:51.09 | hrw|work | ERROR: cannot open file /home/root/.e/e/applications/all/xmonobut.eap for READ/WRITE |
| 16:51.28 | hrw|work | space is not a problem |
| 16:55.17 | CoreDump|home | CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=3 didn't produce any new messages grr |
| 16:55.21 | JustinP | hrw|work: I know about that one. It can't read xpm files |
| 16:55.30 | hrw|work | ok |
| 16:59.59 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:01.49 | JustinP | shadows: PING! |
| 17:02.25 | JustinP | shadows: building libsvg-cairo: checking for LIBSVG_CAIRO... Package libsvg was not found in the pkg-config search path. |
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| 17:06.41 | JustinP | shadows: nm, cancel the PING....looks like RP may have checked in a fix |
| 17:07.16 | RP | JustinP: yes, that fix is important |
| 17:08.40 | JustinP | I figured it had to do with staging... |
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| 17:12.55 | JustinP | RP: I see you turned on the kexec patch. I'll see if I can test it today. |
| 17:13.28 | JustinP | RP: and of you have any pointers on where to look for building the 2.6 kernel module for the remote....please let me know |
| 17:14.09 | JustinP | RP: a simple driver to look at perhaps....some pointers on the input system....how to possibly access the data (I seem to remembe ryou saying that the remote was hooked up to the SA1110?) |
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| 17:18.56 | CoreDump|home | ~lart clueless users too frelling lazy to RTFM |
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| 17:27.41 | gremlin[it] | error connecting with monotone.vanille.de ... |
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| 17:36.52 | RP | JustinP: I said it was hooked up to the MAX1111 |
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| 18:03.02 | Mardy | hi all |
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| 18:03.53 | JustinP | RP: ah yes, that one, sorry |
| 18:06.38 | JustinP | shadows: sorry, didn't get to your bb files |
| 18:09.16 | CoreDump|home | RP: ./nodelist.h:220: printk(KERN_NOTICE "Calculated used size %08x != stored used size %08x\n", my_used_size, jeb->used_size); \ |
| 18:09.32 | CoreDump|home | that's the last message before the oops |
| 18:09.45 | CoreDump|home | it does not crash in the scan function |
| 18:10.07 | CoreDump|home | i verified that with a ton of printk's |
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| 18:12.13 | CoreDump|home | Calculated used size 00000694 != stored used size 00000000 |
| 18:12.44 | CoreDump|home | i guess BUG() causes the oops on purpose |
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| 18:58.40 | koen | eewww |
| 18:58.52 | koen | kernel build: 2.4.21-rmk1-crus1.4.3 |
| 19:01.13 | zecke | crust? |
| 19:01.22 | zecke | koen: I would love to see ALP screenshots |
| 19:04.19 | koen | zecke: me too |
| 19:04.29 | koen | and I wonder when they decide between X and directfb |
| 19:04.42 | koen | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-February/msg00120.html |
| 19:09.46 | zecke | koen: actually DirectFB is more interesting for Hardware Vendors |
| 19:10.07 | zecke | koen: the superb support for layers... is stuff you most likely want to have |
| 19:11.20 | koen | directfb is pretty cute |
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| 19:15.37 | zecke | koen: e.g. what is quite common is. You have a device that wants h.264 playback |
| 19:15.49 | RP | CoreDump|home: So 2.4 thinks there's data there but the disk says not. Never good :-/ |
| 19:15.52 | zecke | koen: have acceleration ships and you have a video driver that supports layers |
| 19:16.32 | zecke | koen: with directFB it just works the way you want |
| 19:16.36 | CoreDump|home | RP: indeed |
| 19:17.30 | RP | CoreDump|home: I'm not sure I can be of much help without delving into the code and I don't really have the time for that, particualry given its 2.4 :-/ |
| 19:17.43 | CoreDump|home | =( |
| 19:18.53 | RP | CoreDump|home: You don't want to see my todo list :-/ |
| 19:19.03 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 19:20.45 | JustinP | RP: so no pointers on the input driver? I suppose I can just try to find the hinge button code..... |
| 19:21.16 | RP | JustinP: Look at drivers/input/keyboard/corgi_kbd.c |
| 19:22.22 | JustinP | ok |
| 19:22.31 | JustinP | will do my best....again... |
| 19:23.06 | RP | JustinP: I can try and throw some pseduo code together for the remote control if it would help? |
| 19:23.54 | zecke | koen: wasn't it 'merlin'? |
| 19:23.59 | JustinP | That would help immensely |
| 19:24.16 | koen | zecke: vanille is broken |
| 19:24.25 | zecke | ah okay |
| 19:24.29 | koen | yay! |
| 19:24.29 | zecke | drat |
| 19:24.49 | JustinP | RP: I know the very generics of what needs to be done....but none of the specifics...if I have pseudo code to fill in and the corgi kbd driver to look at I think I should be able to figure it out |
| 19:25.04 | koen | hooking up USB VDD to the PSU is bad, right? |
| 19:25.06 | JustinP | RP: the task is very daunting to start a driver from nothing.... |
| 19:26.54 | zecke | koen: *sorry* |
| 19:28.36 | JustinP | RP: so, yes, I would appreciate an outline very much. I'll try to check out the code and such tonight regardless |
| 19:36.35 | RP | JustinP: Give me a short while and I'll try and create something |
| 19:37.45 | JustinP | RP: thanks a whole bunch, I'll get to work on it tonight |
| 19:41.09 | zecke | koen: somehow the ewi disked if filled with a lot of 'source' |
| 19:42.16 | koen | 'source' as in your pr0n stash, or real source? ;) |
| 19:42.44 | zecke | koen: bittests' source_checker went through all of the ~3000 bb files |
| 19:43.45 | koen | zecke: can bittest generate a 'known good' repo of .bb files? |
| 19:44.09 | koen | e.g. copy the files that are to to a seperate dir |
| 19:44.20 | zecke | koen: it could, but it doesn't know much yet |
| 19:44.33 | zecke | koen: we could use the monotone qa stuff to flag broken files |
| 19:44.54 | koen | zecke: I'd like to have a complete 'audit' of all .bb files, seperating the good from the bad |
| 19:45.31 | zecke | koen: well I 'know' which patches apply, which sources can be fixed |
| 19:45.44 | zecke | koen: which files have a sane use of variables |
| 19:45.59 | zecke | koen: I do not know which files are builable, or install exploitable files |
| 19:46.19 | koen | running everything through OElint would be a nice start |
| 19:46.37 | zecke | koen: well that is bittest -ofoo.txt content_checker |
| 19:47.24 | koen | cute |
| 19:48.06 | zecke | ls -la /home/zecke/bitbake/bitbake_qa/*.txt |
| 19:48.17 | zecke | once the patch_checker ran through, I will post these :} |
| 19:48.32 | zecke | meantine I will work on the insane.bbclass |
| 19:49.23 | koen | zecke: using the monotone cert stuff would be a good idea |
| 19:50.50 | koen | zecke: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2006-02/msg00069.html is a nice thread to read |
| 19:51.26 | DataBeaver | Hm, how do I attach a patch to a bug? |
| 19:51.47 | koen | DataBeaver: first create the bug, the second visit will should you more options |
| 19:52.03 | DataBeaver | k |
| 19:52.13 | koen | s/should/show/ |
| 19:53.43 | koen | zecke: my devboard with a real ide interface arrived today, so I can work on native stuff some more |
| 19:54.00 | koen | zecke: could be a nice experiment to do some scratchbox like stuff in OE |
| 19:55.44 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:56.06 | koen | the only spare IDE disk has 'B0rked' written on it |
| 19:57.34 | NAiL | koenheh |
| 19:59.02 | NAiL | Does anyone here have experience with DoC devices? |
| 20:00.15 | DataBeaver | DoC? |
| 20:00.26 | koen | Disk on Chip |
| 20:00.27 | NAiL | DiskOnChip |
| 20:00.37 | NAiL | braindead flash chip by M-Systems |
| 20:00.39 | koen | probably the millennium+ variant |
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| 20:00.59 | NAiL | koen: correct. A 16MB one, connected to the ixp4xx expansion bus. |
| 20:01.15 | koen | is that the completely unsupported one? |
| 20:01.51 | NAiL | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.55 | NAiL | Apparently not ;) |
| 20:02.34 | koen | well, afaik there are 2 kinds of m+ chips, a supported one and a unsupported one |
| 20:02.44 | NAiL | aha |
| 20:02.45 | koen | the ipaq h4100 hackers had the unsupported one |
| 20:03.32 | NAiL | the 32MB one is unsupported I know |
| 20:06.15 | NAiL | Unfortunately, probing with the old driver simply doesn't find it, and the new driver oopses. |
| 20:07.22 | RP | JustinP: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/corgi_rc.c |
| 20:08.20 | RP | JustinP: It won't compile and needs a bit of work but a rough framework is there |
| 20:10.39 | JustinP | RP: thanks, I'll see if I can get it working tonight after work |
| 20:11.22 | RP | JustinP: There is going to be an issue with it fighting the sound system for the headphone interrupt |
| 20:12.40 | RP | JustinP: I'm about to rewrite the headphone interrupt handling anyway so the best soution might be to just comment it out in the sound code |
| 20:16.15 | mreimer | hrw|gone: ping |
| 20:16.34 | koen | mreimer: you're ok to commit to the branch |
| 20:16.44 | mreimer | thanks koen, you guessed what I was going to ask :-) |
| 20:16.47 | koen | :) |
| 20:17.21 | mreimer | koen, what do you think about shipping fam083 for h2200 with .15? It's just as stable for me as .13 |
| 20:17.55 | koen | pb__: Did I understand it correctly when you said that maverickcrunch is softvfp compatible, so a EABI userland can have accelerated FP operations? |
| 20:18.29 | koen | mreimer: it does seem to fix some bugs |
| 20:18.30 | zecke | okay good nite |
| 20:18.50 | DataBeaver | Why don't I have kbdrate? |
| 20:18.57 | JustinP | RP: ok, I'll see what I can do |
| 20:18.59 | mreimer | koen: I'll see if uE tagged the tree, and then work up a new .bb |
| 20:19.30 | koen | mreimer: I haven't heard from the hx4700 people, so lets contain it to h2200 atm |
| 20:19.50 | pb_ | koen: given the right library bits, yeah |
| 20:19.56 | mreimer | koen: ok. I'll check with tnb |
| 20:21.12 | koen | pb_: which bits would that be? |
| 20:21.46 | pb_ | well, an implementation of the soft-float libcalls that uses maverickcrunch opcodes |
| 20:22.33 | koen | it that libgcc or glibc? |
| 20:23.09 | pb_ | generally libgcc |
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| 20:23.48 | koen | thanks, I'll forward that info to the toolchain hackersh |
| 20:24.36 | pb_ | okay, very good |
| 20:29.17 | mreimer | koen: when I try to push to oz354fam083 to ewi, nothing goes out, even though I've committed changes to my local db. Does some kind of config need to happen on ewi for me to commit to it? |
| 20:29.59 | koen | mreimer: it looks like you're only pushing to .dev |
| 20:30.40 | koen | mreimer: http://pastebin.com/554817 |
| 20:31.09 | mreimer | koen: is that output from today? |
| 20:31.27 | koen | mreimer: try 'monotone sync ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.oz354fam083' |
| 20:31.31 | mreimer | ok |
| 20:31.33 | koen | mreimer: from a few minutes ago |
| 20:32.17 | mreimer | there we go |
| 20:32.24 | mreimer | hmm, 21 revs out seems like a lot |
| 20:32.45 | koen | monotone: allowed 'mreimer@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.oz354fam083' excluding '' |
| 20:33.11 | mreimer | koen: yeah, it looks different over here this time. So what was I doing wrong? |
| 20:33.13 | JustinP | mreimer: were you merging? |
| 20:33.22 | koen | mreimer: have meld or kdiff3 ready |
| 20:33.28 | mreimer | koen: I do |
| 20:33.28 | JustinP | mreimer: were you specifying org.openembedded.dev? |
| 20:33.59 | mreimer | JustinP: I did merge + update, and was executing the command from my checked-out org.openembedded.oz354fam083 directory |
| 20:34.50 | JustinP | mreimer: if you did lots of merges that's why you're pushing a lot |
| 20:35.06 | mreimer | JustinP: ah, that's it then |
| 20:41.43 | mreimer | koen, hrw|gone: it would be nice to get udev 0.84 into fam083 too |
| 20:43.20 | mreimer | koen, does this look right? I don't think anything got pushed. http://pastebin.com/554850 |
| 20:44.21 | koen | that looks ok |
| 20:45.40 | koen | mreimer: I'm updating viewtm right now |
| 20:45.53 | mreimer | koen: ah, I was wondering why the errors |
| 20:46.09 | mreimer | thanks for you help koen |
| 20:46.15 | koen | that pastebin doesn't list errors :) |
| 20:46.23 | koen | 'successfull exchange' |
| 20:47.01 | mreimer | I was confused by the 0 revs written part, but that probably means none were written to my local db, huh? |
| 20:47.22 | koen | correct |
| 20:49.08 | koen | mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 20:50.20 | mreimer | ah good |
| 20:50.38 | mreimer | koen, oz354fam083 should be able to build a working h2200 jffs2 rootfs now |
| 20:50.46 | koen | cool |
| 21:09.19 | JustinP | mreimer: push, not sync |
| 21:09.35 | mreimer | JustinP: that's what I tried first |
| 21:09.56 | JustinP | mreimer: you had the wrong branch, rememebr? |
| 21:10.20 | mreimer | JustinP: but if I'm pushing from the checked-out branch, I should have to specify a branch, right? |
| 21:10.34 | mreimer | from the checked-out branch directory, that is |
| 21:11.36 | JustinP | mreimer: for example: monotone push -k justinp@openembedded.org monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox,oz354fam083}" |
| 21:12.18 | mreimer | JustinP: I don't remember having to do that before, but if that makes it work, then I guess I will :-) |
| 21:13.36 | JustinP | if you do that once you should be abel to do "monotone push" and have it use the same options. This is just the full command |
| 21:15.12 | mreimer | JustinP: ah, that's probably it |
| 21:19.39 | JustinP | mreimer: I have shell aliases to push to vanille and ewi ^_^ |
| 21:19.43 | JustinP | and pull |
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| 23:15.58 | DataBeaver | I got bitbake interactive shell to crash by (accidentally) giving it an unmatched single quote |
| 23:17.14 | CosmicPenguin | patches welcome |
| 23:20.03 | CosmicPenguin | wow - we really don't have the i2c tools in the oe repo? |
| 23:20.04 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm |
