| 00:07.07 | Luke-Jr | either debug mode doesn't mention bbclasses or it's not being included |
| 00:08.12 | andrewy | to compile a package for the sharp rom do I need to use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch, or will the org.openembedded.dev branch work? |
| 00:09.05 | Luke-Jr | neither will work, last I checked |
| 00:09.11 | Luke-Jr | unless you get really lucky |
| 00:09.17 | andrewy | ah |
| 00:09.31 | andrewy | somewhere the wiki said it would work if i set distro to sharprom-compatible, but thats no longer true? |
| 00:09.42 | Luke-Jr | shrug |
| 00:09.45 | Luke-Jr | maybe it is, try |
| 00:10.01 | andrewy | im pulling the oz354 source, takes a while |
| 00:13.02 | Luke-Jr | no reason to think an OZ branch would work w/ Sharp |
| 00:13.43 | andrewy | yeah, im going to need that for oz anyways though |
| 00:13.59 | Luke-Jr | why? |
| 00:14.06 | Luke-Jr | use openzaurus-unstable :) |
| 00:14.15 | andrewy | isn't it needed for the 3.5.4 oz? |
| 00:14.16 | andrewy | what's that? |
| 00:14.33 | andrewy | i just found out about OE today, so im kind of clueless |
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| 00:15.39 | Luke-Jr | org.openembedded.dev is the absolute latest stuff |
| 00:16.02 | Luke-Jr | oz354fam083 is a (I think) bugfix-only in-progress release for OZ & Familiar |
| 00:16.58 | andrewy | oh.. so if I compile an ipk with oe.dev, i will be able to install it in OZ fine? |
| 00:17.22 | Luke-Jr | I expect so |
| 00:17.37 | Luke-Jr | I don't use OZ releases, tho |
| 00:17.42 | Luke-Jr | I just build my own OZ-based OS for my Z |
| 00:18.08 | andrewy | the only differences is which packages you include, right? |
| 00:18.56 | Luke-Jr | and that I always use openzaurus-unstable |
| 00:22.17 | andrewy | is that another branch? |
| 00:22.29 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 00:22.33 | Luke-Jr | its simply latest in .dev |
| 00:22.37 | andrewy | oh right |
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| 04:21.24 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/501092 <-- why is the bbclass not being included? |
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| 07:06.36 | jbowler-away | RP: with bitbake -r4 everything seems broken (the whole RDEPENDS of slugos-image simply disappear for some builds), with -r1 things were working, but the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel definately doesn't work. Here's the bitbake output (PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is set to ixp4xx-kernel): |
| 07:06.39 | jbowler-away | NOTE: multiple providers are available (nslu2-kernel, linux-jlime-sh3, handhelds-sa, linux-openzaurus, gumstix, collie-kernel-24-8, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, collie-kernel-48-16, mnci-ramses, opensimpad, nslu2-linksys-kernel, openzaurus-sa, linux-omap1, openzaurus-pxa27x, linux-mtx-1, linux-geodegx, collie-kernel-58-6, poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, xanadux-ba-2.6, openzaurus-pxa, linux-h1940, ipod, collie-kernel-32-0, linux-omap-2.6, linux-h6300-om |
| 07:06.41 | jbowler-away | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel |
| 07:06.57 | jbowler-away | slugos-image RDEPENDS start with "kernel" |
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| 08:47.27 | RP | jbowler: This is a bit of a concern as -r4 (which is basically the same as -r6) should work just as well :-/ |
| 08:47.57 | RP | morning all |
| 08:47.58 | XorA | morning |
| 08:48.31 | RP | jbowler: I've just had an opie-image build sucessfully... |
| 08:49.15 | RP | jbowler: Perhaps its some issue specific to slugos image as I fixed a number of corner cases in the code, one of it which it might have been relying on |
| 08:54.10 | XorA | RP: http://sam.rpsys.net/bitbake-rprovides-r5.patch the current patch? |
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| 08:55.16 | jbowler | I find that if I add DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth" to slugos-image.bb it works fine, if I don't have it the required kernel is not used. |
| 08:55.30 | RP | XorA: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r6.patch |
| 08:55.53 | jbowler | I haven't tried that patch yet though... |
| 08:56.22 | jbowler | RP: do you see any problem if I incorporate your LEDs patches into the NSLU2 (etc) kernel? |
| 08:56.22 | RP | jbowler: Ah, I think I understand. Try -r6 as I did change something which will have a big effect on slugos |
| 08:57.19 | RP | jbowler: No problem at all. I did talk to Alessandro about the NSLU using them |
| 08:57.52 | RP | jbowler: In -r4, RDEPENDS were built, then DEPENDS. This is obviously wrong and I changed that for -r5/r6 |
| 08:57.55 | jbowler | Presumably I have to set up the GPIO definitions correctly (number and polarity) in NSLU2 specific code? |
| 08:58.37 | RP | jbowler: You need a specific LED driver for the NSLU2. I think Alessandro might have some code already |
| 08:59.28 | jbowler | Yes, he said he had looked at it. |
| 09:01.08 | jbowler | -r6 has an error in the 'nothing provides' message, it was in r4 too: |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | NameError: global name 'itemtype' is not defined |
| 09:01.47 | jbowler | (That's from "bitbake kernel", kernel is RPROVIDED I believe). |
| 09:03.11 | RP | jbowler: That's a typo, fixing, thanks |
| 09:04.49 | jbowler | Do I need to remove the cache going from r1 to r6? At present with r6 bitbake slugos-image gives me: |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency python-native |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | NOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native |
| 09:05.29 | RP | Ah. This is a bug in the metadata - add an RDEPENDS="" to ipkg-utils-native for now |
| 09:05.49 | RP | Basically, inherit native sets PACKAGES to "" which breaks things like this |
| 09:06.01 | RP | This isn't bitbake but OE being incorrect |
| 09:06.15 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch has the typo fixed |
| 09:06.48 | RP | and that error shouldn't have been "kernel" but something else as its a build time dependency |
| 09:07.42 | jbowler | RP: ipkg-utils-native explicitly sets both RDEPENDS and PACKAGES: |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | RDEPENDS = "python-native" |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | # Avoid circular dependencies from package_ipk.bbclass |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | PACKAGES = "" |
| 09:08.52 | RP | jbowler: That PACKAGES isn't needed as native.bbclass also does this if I remember rightly which is why python-native can't be found |
| 09:09.58 | RP | I don't know what the DEPENDS and RDEPENDS of a native packahe should be exactly really. I guess the above is correct, native.bbclass shouldn't be setting PACKAGES and should set BUILD_ALL_DEPS = 1 |
| 09:11.19 | jbowler | In general it should be that foo-native includes foo and foo has a list of RDEPENDS "a b c", then foo-native should RDEPEND on "a-native b-native c-native". |
| 09:11.34 | jbowler | Getting that to work might be difficult though ;-) |
| 09:12.16 | RP | jbowler: I think my comments above have that covered, Changing PACKAGES="" in native.bbclass is going to break things though :) |
| 09:12.51 | RP | For now, until we fix other things, setting RDEPENDS="" in that one .bb file is a tempting work around :) |
| 09:13.27 | XorA | seeing as the plan is that STAGING becomes package controlled, shouldn't native become a build of a package for ARCH=${BUILD_ARCH} or something similar? |
| 09:13.39 | XorA | and then -native disappears |
| 09:14.09 | jbowler | Yes, it should - the -native package and inherit native already do that, but they also stop the packaging. |
| 09:14.53 | RP | There are a lot of issues here which we can hit once we have "normal" packaging for staging working. One step at a time... :) |
| 09:15.12 | XorA | RP: fair enough, Im still too scared to look at bitbake code |
| 09:16.27 | RP | It is scary, especially if you don't know python verry well :) |
| 09:17.06 | RP | But I'm really happy with -r6 as its feels like its doing everything properly |
| 09:17.30 | RP | jbowler: I'll be very interested to see if slugos-image builds... |
| 09:17.42 | XorA | RP: I dont, I think Im too old for these new fangled languages :-) nearest I got is a patch for binconfig.bbclass many years ago |
| 09:18.15 | jbowler | It looks like it does, but it's just starting slugos-lag, that will show if there are any problems now (I have the slugos-image.bb DEPENDS commented out again) |
| 09:19.22 | RP | jbowler: Other changes from -r4 include ignoring circular runtime dependencies and only building the rdepends of subpackages that are actually rdepended on themselves |
| 09:19.50 | RP | The latter point is important for meta-opie as it declares lots of tasks but opie-image only uses a small number of them |
| 09:20.32 | RP | (a task being a subpackage of RDEPENDS for a particular function like task-bootstrap) |
| 09:22.45 | jbowler | Is this a side effect of an r1->r7 change? |
| 09:22.46 | jbowler | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for kernel: |
| 09:22.47 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:24.04 | RP | jbowler: Have you pulled the change to kernel.bbclass which adds PACKAGES_DYNAMIC = "kernel-image-*" to kernel.bblcass? |
| 09:24.18 | RP | It was a while ago so I'd suspect you should have... |
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| 09:24.26 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:24.29 | RP | hi dirk |
| 09:24.40 | jbowler | RP: I believe I have that change |
| 09:24.44 | do13_ | hi Richard |
| 09:25.35 | jbowler | I actually changed bitbake code while bitbake was running though... |
| 09:26.43 | RP | jbowler: I can't find that error in my bitbake code... |
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| 09:27.36 | jbowler | It's something to do with deleting the slugos-image DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth", because when I rebuild now I get the multiple providers message for the kernel. |
| 09:28.53 | RP | It should no longer suggest PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel as a solution though? |
| 09:29.15 | jbowler | No, it says: |
| 09:29.18 | jbowler | NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime kernel-image- |
| 09:30.07 | RP | Ah, kernel-image-. Not kernel.That's interesting |
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| 09:33.01 | RP | jbowler: Does it continue past that or error out with the cannot satisfy kernel-image error? |
| 09:33.34 | RP | Its interesting is says kernel-image and not kernel-image-2.6.15 as well... |
| 09:35.31 | jbowler | The build complains about multiple providers, but the image rootfs step cannot find kernel-image-2.6.15 even though it downloaded kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:35.44 | alan|laptop | morning ! |
| 09:36.17 | jbowler | Still, the problem may be that I changed the bitbake - it only built that kernel with the old (-r1) bitbake. |
| 09:36.30 | RP | jbowler: Ah, that's an ipkg error. |
| 09:36.38 | jbowler | Yes |
| 09:37.06 | RP | jbowler: Check if kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk exists |
| 09:37.33 | RP | I suspect bitbake will have created kernel-image-_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk instead |
| 09:37.57 | RP | Your question becomes why has ${KERNEL-VERSION} disappeared? |
| 09:38.19 | jbowler | I'm not sure - I deleted deploy/ipk/kernel* |
| 09:38.37 | jbowler | Ah, ok, it still happens... |
| 09:39.15 | jbowler | And I have kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_nslu2l.ipk |
| 09:39.32 | jbowler | (That's the correct name - because it now picks up the correct kernel .bb) |
| 09:40.24 | jbowler | ipkg isn't attempting to install the kernel-image- ipk |
| 09:40.58 | jbowler | It downloads kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:41.16 | RP | If ipkg was asked to install kernel-image- instead of kernel-image-2.6.15, that would break it |
| 09:41.44 | RP | I think you probably need to clean tmp and work out exactly where the build is breaking down... |
| 09:42.58 | jbowler | slugos-lag is already half way through, and that started clean with -r7 |
| 09:45.45 | RP | ok. I've noticed my last opie builds were slighly more correct in the build choices - it build libxine-fb instead of libxine for example |
| 09:46.28 | jbowler | I think it's my mistake - my ipkgarchs is not up-to-date |
| 09:49.45 | RP | ah, ok. That would explain why ipkg was upset |
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| 10:54.24 | RP | gpe-image works with -r6 :) |
| 11:05.55 | XorA | RP: Im upto gcc-cross :-) |
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| 11:06.35 | CoreDump|home | umm are there problems w/ ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl amt? I' getting "monotone: read from fd 9 (peer ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl) failed, disconnecting" when trying to push |
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| 11:14.10 | RP | CoreDump|home: Did you have your write access renabled after updating your database? |
| 11:16.11 | CoreDump|home | ahh no |
| 11:16.50 | CoreDump|home | who do I need to talk to for that as mickeyl is away? koen I guess? |
| 11:19.43 | doppiaemme | Just a question... Is it correct that bootstrap-image has /boot empty?? |
| 11:20.38 | RP | doppiaemme: That would depend on the machine |
| 11:21.51 | doppiaemme | RP: I bitbake bootstrap-image for VIA epia machine, it compiled ok but /boot is empty... |
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| 11:25.00 | RP | doppiaemme: I'm not familar with the epia. Should it have a kernel in there or is the kernel loaded in some other way? |
| 11:26.57 | doppiaemme | RP: this is what I don't understand... for now I've a bootstrap-image, putting the rootfs on a CF and booting from it isn't enough... I know it's a newbie problem but I can't find any docs... |
| 11:28.12 | RP | doppiaemme: I don't know enough about the epia to offer any useful advice I'm afraid |
| 11:28.54 | _law_ | is here someone, how has an clamshell where hostap drivers work without loading modules by hand once? |
| 11:29.19 | _law_ | or g_ether |
| 11:29.35 | doppiaemme | RP: no problem, thanks :-) |
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| 11:29.52 | lrg|home | morning all |
| 11:29.53 | RP | hi liam |
| 11:30.09 | lrg|home | RP thanks for that mail :) |
| 11:30.20 | RP | _law_: g_ether shouldn't autoload as you might want one of the other gadgets |
| 11:30.53 | RP | _law_: hostap should autoload but doesn't after a reboot - removing and inserting the card usually wakes it up |
| 11:31.10 | RP | lrg|home: np. I noticed you fell out the cc again :) |
| 11:31.13 | XorA | _law_: hostap works fine here |
| 11:31.20 | XorA | _law_: g-ether needs to be modprobed |
| 11:31.49 | _law_ | RP, i always have to modprobe after reboot. i have got an netgear wlan card |
| 11:31.55 | _law_ | will try my asus later |
| 11:32.18 | lrg|home | RP: can you forward and I'll reply and remind him I'm the contact |
| 11:33.55 | RP | lrg|home: If it happens again, I will do |
| 11:34.39 | lrg|home | RP: thanks, I guess thats another beer I'm due you a Fosdem. I'm losing count now :) |
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| 11:35.46 | RP | lrg|home: Looks like I won't be very sober at fosdem either :) |
| 11:35.55 | lrg|home | heh |
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| 00:07.07 | Luke-Jr | either debug mode doesn't mention bbclasses or it's not being included |
| 00:08.12 | andrewy | to compile a package for the sharp rom do I need to use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch, or will the org.openembedded.dev branch work? |
| 00:09.05 | Luke-Jr | neither will work, last I checked |
| 00:09.11 | Luke-Jr | unless you get really lucky |
| 00:09.17 | andrewy | ah |
| 00:09.31 | andrewy | somewhere the wiki said it would work if i set distro to sharprom-compatible, but thats no longer true? |
| 00:09.42 | Luke-Jr | shrug |
| 00:09.45 | Luke-Jr | maybe it is, try |
| 00:10.01 | andrewy | im pulling the oz354 source, takes a while |
| 00:13.02 | Luke-Jr | no reason to think an OZ branch would work w/ Sharp |
| 00:13.43 | andrewy | yeah, im going to need that for oz anyways though |
| 00:13.59 | Luke-Jr | why? |
| 00:14.06 | Luke-Jr | use openzaurus-unstable :) |
| 00:14.15 | andrewy | isn't it needed for the 3.5.4 oz? |
| 00:14.16 | andrewy | what's that? |
| 00:14.33 | andrewy | i just found out about OE today, so im kind of clueless |
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| 00:15.39 | Luke-Jr | org.openembedded.dev is the absolute latest stuff |
| 00:16.02 | Luke-Jr | oz354fam083 is a (I think) bugfix-only in-progress release for OZ & Familiar |
| 00:16.58 | andrewy | oh.. so if I compile an ipk with oe.dev, i will be able to install it in OZ fine? |
| 00:17.22 | Luke-Jr | I expect so |
| 00:17.37 | Luke-Jr | I don't use OZ releases, tho |
| 00:17.42 | Luke-Jr | I just build my own OZ-based OS for my Z |
| 00:18.08 | andrewy | the only differences is which packages you include, right? |
| 00:18.56 | Luke-Jr | and that I always use openzaurus-unstable |
| 00:22.17 | andrewy | is that another branch? |
| 00:22.29 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 00:22.33 | Luke-Jr | its simply latest in .dev |
| 00:22.37 | andrewy | oh right |
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| 04:21.24 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/501092 <-- why is the bbclass not being included? |
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| 07:06.36 | jbowler-away | RP: with bitbake -r4 everything seems broken (the whole RDEPENDS of slugos-image simply disappear for some builds), with -r1 things were working, but the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel definately doesn't work. Here's the bitbake output (PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is set to ixp4xx-kernel): |
| 07:06.39 | jbowler-away | NOTE: multiple providers are available (nslu2-kernel, linux-jlime-sh3, handhelds-sa, linux-openzaurus, gumstix, collie-kernel-24-8, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, collie-kernel-48-16, mnci-ramses, opensimpad, nslu2-linksys-kernel, openzaurus-sa, linux-omap1, openzaurus-pxa27x, linux-mtx-1, linux-geodegx, collie-kernel-58-6, poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, xanadux-ba-2.6, openzaurus-pxa, linux-h1940, ipod, collie-kernel-32-0, linux-omap-2.6, linux-h6300-om |
| 07:06.41 | jbowler-away | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel |
| 07:06.57 | jbowler-away | slugos-image RDEPENDS start with "kernel" |
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| 08:47.27 | RP | jbowler: This is a bit of a concern as -r4 (which is basically the same as -r6) should work just as well :-/ |
| 08:47.57 | RP | morning all |
| 08:47.58 | XorA | morning |
| 08:48.31 | RP | jbowler: I've just had an opie-image build sucessfully... |
| 08:49.15 | RP | jbowler: Perhaps its some issue specific to slugos image as I fixed a number of corner cases in the code, one of it which it might have been relying on |
| 08:54.10 | XorA | RP: http://sam.rpsys.net/bitbake-rprovides-r5.patch the current patch? |
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| 08:55.16 | jbowler | I find that if I add DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth" to slugos-image.bb it works fine, if I don't have it the required kernel is not used. |
| 08:55.30 | RP | XorA: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r6.patch |
| 08:55.53 | jbowler | I haven't tried that patch yet though... |
| 08:56.22 | jbowler | RP: do you see any problem if I incorporate your LEDs patches into the NSLU2 (etc) kernel? |
| 08:56.22 | RP | jbowler: Ah, I think I understand. Try -r6 as I did change something which will have a big effect on slugos |
| 08:57.19 | RP | jbowler: No problem at all. I did talk to Alessandro about the NSLU using them |
| 08:57.52 | RP | jbowler: In -r4, RDEPENDS were built, then DEPENDS. This is obviously wrong and I changed that for -r5/r6 |
| 08:57.55 | jbowler | Presumably I have to set up the GPIO definitions correctly (number and polarity) in NSLU2 specific code? |
| 08:58.37 | RP | jbowler: You need a specific LED driver for the NSLU2. I think Alessandro might have some code already |
| 08:59.28 | jbowler | Yes, he said he had looked at it. |
| 09:01.08 | jbowler | -r6 has an error in the 'nothing provides' message, it was in r4 too: |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | NameError: global name 'itemtype' is not defined |
| 09:01.47 | jbowler | (That's from "bitbake kernel", kernel is RPROVIDED I believe). |
| 09:03.11 | RP | jbowler: That's a typo, fixing, thanks |
| 09:04.49 | jbowler | Do I need to remove the cache going from r1 to r6? At present with r6 bitbake slugos-image gives me: |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency python-native |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | NOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native |
| 09:05.29 | RP | Ah. This is a bug in the metadata - add an RDEPENDS="" to ipkg-utils-native for now |
| 09:05.49 | RP | Basically, inherit native sets PACKAGES to "" which breaks things like this |
| 09:06.01 | RP | This isn't bitbake but OE being incorrect |
| 09:06.15 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch has the typo fixed |
| 09:06.48 | RP | and that error shouldn't have been "kernel" but something else as its a build time dependency |
| 09:07.42 | jbowler | RP: ipkg-utils-native explicitly sets both RDEPENDS and PACKAGES: |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | RDEPENDS = "python-native" |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | # Avoid circular dependencies from package_ipk.bbclass |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | PACKAGES = "" |
| 09:08.52 | RP | jbowler: That PACKAGES isn't needed as native.bbclass also does this if I remember rightly which is why python-native can't be found |
| 09:09.58 | RP | I don't know what the DEPENDS and RDEPENDS of a native packahe should be exactly really. I guess the above is correct, native.bbclass shouldn't be setting PACKAGES and should set BUILD_ALL_DEPS = 1 |
| 09:11.19 | jbowler | In general it should be that foo-native includes foo and foo has a list of RDEPENDS "a b c", then foo-native should RDEPEND on "a-native b-native c-native". |
| 09:11.34 | jbowler | Getting that to work might be difficult though ;-) |
| 09:12.16 | RP | jbowler: I think my comments above have that covered, Changing PACKAGES="" in native.bbclass is going to break things though :) |
| 09:12.51 | RP | For now, until we fix other things, setting RDEPENDS="" in that one .bb file is a tempting work around :) |
| 09:13.27 | XorA | seeing as the plan is that STAGING becomes package controlled, shouldn't native become a build of a package for ARCH=${BUILD_ARCH} or something similar? |
| 09:13.39 | XorA | and then -native disappears |
| 09:14.09 | jbowler | Yes, it should - the -native package and inherit native already do that, but they also stop the packaging. |
| 09:14.53 | RP | There are a lot of issues here which we can hit once we have "normal" packaging for staging working. One step at a time... :) |
| 09:15.12 | XorA | RP: fair enough, Im still too scared to look at bitbake code |
| 09:16.27 | RP | It is scary, especially if you don't know python verry well :) |
| 09:17.06 | RP | But I'm really happy with -r6 as its feels like its doing everything properly |
| 09:17.30 | RP | jbowler: I'll be very interested to see if slugos-image builds... |
| 09:17.42 | XorA | RP: I dont, I think Im too old for these new fangled languages :-) nearest I got is a patch for binconfig.bbclass many years ago |
| 09:18.15 | jbowler | It looks like it does, but it's just starting slugos-lag, that will show if there are any problems now (I have the slugos-image.bb DEPENDS commented out again) |
| 09:19.22 | RP | jbowler: Other changes from -r4 include ignoring circular runtime dependencies and only building the rdepends of subpackages that are actually rdepended on themselves |
| 09:19.50 | RP | The latter point is important for meta-opie as it declares lots of tasks but opie-image only uses a small number of them |
| 09:20.32 | RP | (a task being a subpackage of RDEPENDS for a particular function like task-bootstrap) |
| 09:22.45 | jbowler | Is this a side effect of an r1->r7 change? |
| 09:22.46 | jbowler | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for kernel: |
| 09:22.47 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:24.04 | RP | jbowler: Have you pulled the change to kernel.bbclass which adds PACKAGES_DYNAMIC = "kernel-image-*" to kernel.bblcass? |
| 09:24.18 | RP | It was a while ago so I'd suspect you should have... |
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| 09:24.26 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:24.29 | RP | hi dirk |
| 09:24.40 | jbowler | RP: I believe I have that change |
| 09:24.44 | do13_ | hi Richard |
| 09:25.35 | jbowler | I actually changed bitbake code while bitbake was running though... |
| 09:26.43 | RP | jbowler: I can't find that error in my bitbake code... |
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| 09:27.36 | jbowler | It's something to do with deleting the slugos-image DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth", because when I rebuild now I get the multiple providers message for the kernel. |
| 09:28.53 | RP | It should no longer suggest PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel as a solution though? |
| 09:29.15 | jbowler | No, it says: |
| 09:29.18 | jbowler | NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime kernel-image- |
| 09:30.07 | RP | Ah, kernel-image-. Not kernel.That's interesting |
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| 09:33.01 | RP | jbowler: Does it continue past that or error out with the cannot satisfy kernel-image error? |
| 09:33.34 | RP | Its interesting is says kernel-image and not kernel-image-2.6.15 as well... |
| 09:35.31 | jbowler | The build complains about multiple providers, but the image rootfs step cannot find kernel-image-2.6.15 even though it downloaded kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:35.44 | alan|laptop | morning ! |
| 09:36.17 | jbowler | Still, the problem may be that I changed the bitbake - it only built that kernel with the old (-r1) bitbake. |
| 09:36.30 | RP | jbowler: Ah, that's an ipkg error. |
| 09:36.38 | jbowler | Yes |
| 09:37.06 | RP | jbowler: Check if kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk exists |
| 09:37.33 | RP | I suspect bitbake will have created kernel-image-_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk instead |
| 09:37.57 | RP | Your question becomes why has ${KERNEL-VERSION} disappeared? |
| 09:38.19 | jbowler | I'm not sure - I deleted deploy/ipk/kernel* |
| 09:38.37 | jbowler | Ah, ok, it still happens... |
| 09:39.15 | jbowler | And I have kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_nslu2l.ipk |
| 09:39.32 | jbowler | (That's the correct name - because it now picks up the correct kernel .bb) |
| 09:40.24 | jbowler | ipkg isn't attempting to install the kernel-image- ipk |
| 09:40.58 | jbowler | It downloads kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:41.16 | RP | If ipkg was asked to install kernel-image- instead of kernel-image-2.6.15, that would break it |
| 09:41.44 | RP | I think you probably need to clean tmp and work out exactly where the build is breaking down... |
| 09:42.58 | jbowler | slugos-lag is already half way through, and that started clean with -r7 |
| 09:45.45 | RP | ok. I've noticed my last opie builds were slighly more correct in the build choices - it build libxine-fb instead of libxine for example |
| 09:46.28 | jbowler | I think it's my mistake - my ipkgarchs is not up-to-date |
| 09:49.45 | RP | ah, ok. That would explain why ipkg was upset |
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| 10:54.24 | RP | gpe-image works with -r6 :) |
| 11:05.55 | XorA | RP: Im upto gcc-cross :-) |
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| 11:06.35 | CoreDump|home | umm are there problems w/ ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl amt? I' getting "monotone: read from fd 9 (peer ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl) failed, disconnecting" when trying to push |
| 11:06.51 | CoreDump|home | s/amt/atm |
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| 11:14.10 | RP | CoreDump|home: Did you have your write access renabled after updating your database? |
| 11:16.11 | CoreDump|home | ahh no |
| 11:16.50 | CoreDump|home | who do I need to talk to for that as mickeyl is away? koen I guess? |
| 11:19.43 | doppiaemme | Just a question... Is it correct that bootstrap-image has /boot empty?? |
| 11:20.38 | RP | doppiaemme: That would depend on the machine |
| 11:21.51 | doppiaemme | RP: I bitbake bootstrap-image for VIA epia machine, it compiled ok but /boot is empty... |
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| 11:25.00 | RP | doppiaemme: I'm not familar with the epia. Should it have a kernel in there or is the kernel loaded in some other way? |
| 11:26.57 | doppiaemme | RP: this is what I don't understand... for now I've a bootstrap-image, putting the rootfs on a CF and booting from it isn't enough... I know it's a newbie problem but I can't find any docs... |
| 11:28.12 | RP | doppiaemme: I don't know enough about the epia to offer any useful advice I'm afraid |
| 11:28.54 | _law_ | is here someone, how has an clamshell where hostap drivers work without loading modules by hand once? |
| 11:29.19 | _law_ | or g_ether |
| 11:29.35 | doppiaemme | RP: no problem, thanks :-) |
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| 11:29.52 | lrg|home | morning all |
| 11:29.53 | RP | hi liam |
| 11:30.09 | lrg|home | RP thanks for that mail :) |
| 11:30.20 | RP | _law_: g_ether shouldn't autoload as you might want one of the other gadgets |
| 11:30.53 | RP | _law_: hostap should autoload but doesn't after a reboot - removing and inserting the card usually wakes it up |
| 11:31.10 | RP | lrg|home: np. I noticed you fell out the cc again :) |
| 11:31.13 | XorA | _law_: hostap works fine here |
| 11:31.20 | XorA | _law_: g-ether needs to be modprobed |
| 11:31.49 | _law_ | RP, i always have to modprobe after reboot. i have got an netgear wlan card |
| 11:31.55 | _law_ | will try my asus later |
| 11:32.18 | lrg|home | RP: can you forward and I'll reply and remind him I'm the contact |
| 11:33.55 | RP | lrg|home: If it happens again, I will do |
| 11:34.39 | lrg|home | RP: thanks, I guess thats another beer I'm due you a Fosdem. I'm losing count now :) |
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| 11:35.46 | RP | lrg|home: Looks like I won't be very sober at fosdem either :) |
| 11:35.55 | lrg|home | heh |
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| 11:39.53 | do13_ | Hi Liam |
| 11:40.06 | lrg|home | hi Dirk |
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| 11:41.43 | do13_ | lrg|home: I haven't tested wm97xx_register_misc_dev. It was too late yesterday. |
| 11:42.33 | zecke | hi |
| 11:42.38 | zecke | CoreDump|home: lart you ;) |
| 11:42.48 | lrg|home | do13: np, do you know Ole Reinhardt at kernelconcepts. He's doing some testing with the driver today using the wm9705 |
| 11:42.58 | lrg|home | zecke: hey |
| 11:42.59 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 11:43.34 | zecke | CoreDump|home: you broke the tailorization ;) |
| 11:43.48 | CoreDump|home | I don't get it |
| 11:44.09 | RP | hi zecke |
| 11:44.23 | zecke | CoreDump|home: "Akita/Spitz: Use OE f?r setting CMDLINE, not defconfig. |
| 11:44.25 | zecke | " |
| 11:44.35 | RP | zecke: My builds all worked out with the bitbake patch so its looking good. I've created r7 due to a typo |
| 11:44.38 | zecke | CoreDump|home: breaks importing the cset into a svn repository |
| 11:44.43 | lrg|home | do13: he's testing wm9075 aux adc and touch at the same time on a custom platform. should be interesting to see if he has the pen down issue. |
| 11:44.45 | do13_ | lrg|home: I read a post on lakml |
| 11:44.53 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch |
| 11:44.55 | CoreDump|home | I don't even remember pushing that lol |
| 11:45.59 | lrg|home | do13: my trip to Shanghai is now on the 3rd Feb, so I would hope we can have it all working before your trip to Spain |
| 11:46.26 | zecke | CoreDump|home: I'm currently converting our monotone db to Git, Darcs and SVN |
| 11:46.35 | do13_ | lrg|home: Did you tosa arrived? |
| 11:46.37 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 11:47.11 | zecke | RP: I will leave at 14:00 torwards the office. I will do a build as well and then commit the patch |
| 11:47.18 | CoreDump|home | but what does OE care about that? |
| 11:47.40 | lrg|home | do13: not yet, however snail mail is slow in the UK. :( Hopefully get it by the weekend. |
| 11:47.41 | do13_ | lrg|home: I'm next week on vacation |
| 11:48.06 | XorA | lrg|home: you in the uk? |
| 11:48.20 | do13_ | lrg|home: So we have this weekend :) |
| 11:48.25 | lrg|home | do13: np, I'll probably have it fixed on your return |
| 11:48.47 | lrg|home | XorA: yes, Dunfermline |
| 11:48.59 | XorA | lrg|home: we must get together, Im edin based |
| 11:49.59 | CoreDump|home | anyway,gottagoto work, later |
| 11:50.09 | lrg|home | XorA: do you go to edlug ? |
| 11:50.39 | XorA | lrg|home: No, Ive been in holyrood on same night as it a few times 3-4 years ago |
| 11:51.58 | lrg|home | XorA: ah, I recommend coming along one night. Incinerator also goes. Do you work in Edin ? |
| 11:52.10 | XorA | lrg|home: upstairs from Virgin Megastore |
| 11:52.25 | XorA | lrg|home: I shall have to try and make it sometime |
| 11:52.38 | XorA | lrg|home: Ime sure I owe you a beer for the sound driver :-) |
| 11:53.01 | lrg|home | XorA: I work at Wolfson next to Murrayfield. I'm probably due you a beer as well :) |
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| 11:53.22 | do13_ | lrg|home: How far is Dunfermline away from Salisbury? |
| 11:53.39 | lrg|home | XorA: if you were a student, I could have offered you a summer placement to linux audio |
| 11:53.54 | XorA | lrg|home: been a long time since I was a student :-) |
| 11:54.13 | lrg|home | do13: oh about 500 miles (english geog not very good) |
| 11:54.36 | XorA | lrg|home: thats about right |
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| 11:54.41 | XorA | lrg|home: the distance that is |
| 11:54.53 | do13_ | lrg|home: Ok. It's too far away. |
| 11:55.27 | lrg|home | do13: are you going to Salisbury ? |
| 11:55.45 | do13_ | lrg|home: We have an office in Salisbury |
| 11:56.09 | lrg|home | do13: ah, pb_ lives closer to Salisbury. He lives in Cambridge |
| 11:57.09 | do13_ | lrg|home: Thanks |
| 11:57.29 | do13_ | lrg|home, RP you will visit FOSDEM? |
| 11:58.06 | lrg|home | do13: yes, I've still to make my hotel arrangements. It would be nice if we were all booked into the same hotel |
| 11:59.31 | RP | do13_: Yes, that's the plan |
| 11:59.43 | do13_ | lrg|home: You wil arrive on 24th? |
| 12:00.31 | lrg|home | do13: I've not booked any travel yet, so I'm flexible |
| 12:01.54 | do13_ | I'll look at a flight. Maybe we can met. |
| 12:02.47 | lrg|home | do13: yes, that would be cool. I'll book my travel to be there on the 24th. |
| 12:03.07 | RP | I suspect I'll arrive midday on the 24th |
| 12:03.15 | RP | but nothing's booked yet |
| 12:03.38 | lrg|home | RP: cool, let me know if your hotel and I'll try and book the same |
| 12:04.21 | do13_ | First of all I have to fight with my wife:) |
| 12:04.32 | RP | lrg|home: will do. Its in my boss' hands atm. |
| 12:10.50 | do13_ | RP: Let me know your hotel |
| 12:10.51 | zecke | koen|away: ping! |
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| 12:12.32 | zecke | koen|away: dpkg-reconfigure locales and please add german! |
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| 12:27.27 | kami22 | hi i know that i am still asking the same questions but i am still trying to compile php for my openslug and i always get this error : http://pastebin.ca/36581 |
| 12:30.35 | RP | kami22: Its trying to use libs in /usr/lib instead of staging. |
| 12:31.05 | kami22 | okay but how can i fix this? |
| 12:31.09 | kami22 | easily :) |
| 12:31.29 | RP | Find out why it passes -L/usr/lib into that commandline |
| 12:31.33 | RP | It shouldn't be |
| 12:32.04 | kami22 | but i didnt change anything to the standard bb files |
| 12:32.13 | kami22 | cant you try to compile php? |
| 12:32.41 | kami22 | maybe there is a bug in the bb file? |
| 12:33.19 | RP | kami22: There is a bug either in the .bb or in php itself which is breaking when cross compiling. Someone needs to work out why and fix it |
| 12:34.29 | kami22 | yes but i think i am not so intelligent to do this on my own |
| 12:35.28 | RP | kami22: You can learn ;-) |
| 12:36.00 | zecke | darcs and git are up-to-date again |
| 12:36.26 | kami22 | RP: maybe i thousand years :) |
| 12:36.31 | RP | zecke: I'm still trying to remember how to use git again :) |
| 12:36.48 | zecke | RP: cg-clone, cg-update ;) |
| 12:36.54 | zecke | RP: cg-log |
| 12:37.01 | zecke | cg-<tab> |
| 12:37.14 | RP | zecke: I have raw git installed :) |
| 12:37.26 | zecke | that is disgusting |
| 12:37.37 | zecke | git clone ? |
| 12:37.41 | zecke | git update? |
| 12:37.43 | zecke | git log? |
| 12:38.05 | RP | near enough. but then try switching branches :) |
| 12:38.16 | zecke | kami22: do you fail turing tests? |
| 12:38.27 | zecke | RP: cd ../other-branch ; cg-update? |
| 12:38.48 | RP | git branch xyz; git checkout -f abc |
| 12:39.05 | RP | The -f had me puzzled for a while :) |
| 12:39.10 | zecke | kami22: if not I'm confident you can fix php's build system |
| 12:39.30 | RP | I should try cognito :) |
| 12:41.04 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:44.21 | XorA | kami22: I think unless you are willing to roll up your sleeves and look into problem yourself its going to be a long while before anyone here does |
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| 12:49.07 | kami22 | sorry but i think i dont know what the problem is to compile php for the slug it cant be that difficult to get it working? |
| 12:49.55 | XorA | kami22: the problem is zecke, RP etc are all working on other stuff, there isnt enough man power about to fix every problem in every bb, someone will eventually do it when they need php |
| 12:51.05 | zecke | kami22: you are spending at least three days on that issue already. What about putting some energy/brain power into it? |
| 12:51.29 | zecke | anyway cya later |
| 12:56.59 | kami22 | i am trying everything now but i cant get a solution and i am not a programmer |
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| 13:13.30 | XorA | RP: http://pastebin.com/502284 probably ny fault somewhere |
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| 13:44.06 | RP | XorA: This is latest OE metadata with the -r7 bitbake patch and a bitbake gpe-image? |
| 13:47.44 | Cobelius | What does the class debian do`? |
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| 13:49.28 | RP | Cobelius: Renames packages in a debian like way |
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| 14:07.22 | XorA | RP: yes to all |
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| 14:08.59 | zecke | re |
| 14:11.09 | RP | XorA: Not good then. I don't understand it as everything worked ok here :-/ |
| 14:12.26 | RP | XorA: Try running "bitbake -D -n gpe-image" and I'll have a look for any problems |
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| 14:18.30 | XorA | RP: http://www.xora.org.uk/buildlog |
| 14:23.25 | RP | XorA: Was this from a clean tmp dir? |
| 14:23.30 | XorA | RP: yes |
| 14:26.38 | RP | XorA: There is no mention of gpe-task-* in there and there should be :-/ |
| 14:28.19 | XorA | RP: dropped too many depends somewhere? |
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| 14:28.42 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 14:29.51 | RP | hi florian_kc |
| 14:30.30 | RP | XorA: looks a bit like it somehow. I get the same results from bitbake -n -D here which is somewhat puzzling as the build worked earlier... |
| 14:31.12 | XorA | RP: well at least I can quickly test any fix |
| 14:34.01 | XorA | probably down the side of the couch with all the other missing stuff |
| 14:34.42 | RP | XorA: Could you rerun that with -D -D please? The thngs I'm interested in don't appear unless you do that :) |
| 14:35.11 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:35.46 | RP | morning chouimat |
| 14:35.52 | florian_kc | hi chouimat |
| 14:40.02 | florian_kc | Oh well.. merging in ~450 revisions takes a while. |
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| 14:47.38 | zecke | florian_kc: good decision. If you want something only read only you might try git or darcs |
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| 14:50.12 | XorA | RP: running |
| 14:52.22 | florian_kc | zecke: well... since i need to fix it anyway i give it another try. i think i have quite some stuff to commit. |
| 14:52.35 | florian_kc | btw. did koen|away commit my quilt fixes? |
| 14:52.52 | XorA | RP: http://www.xora.org.uk/buildlog2 |
| 14:54.17 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/501092 <-- why is the bbclass not being included? |
| 14:56.20 | zecke | Luke-Jr: -DDD ??? |
| 14:57.50 | Luke-Jr | zecke: nothing suggests any bbclass for it |
| 14:58.41 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/502426 is w/ debug |
| 14:58.49 | Luke-Jr | about 7 Ds, IIRC |
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| 14:59.39 | zecke | Luke-Jr: well the logging stills of bitbake are missing. I fear you will need to take it on with the parser |
| 14:59.53 | zecke | Luke-Jr: just make it print a line on any file it tries to include |
| 15:00.18 | zecke | we should change inherit's semantic to use require instead of include |
| 15:00.29 | Laibsch | I set up a new computer for compiling OE. I think I followed the GettingStarted page in the wiki but I still get an error "ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf". I am in the build directory and build/conf/local.conf exists. Any clues? |
| 15:00.55 | zecke | Laibsch: echo $BBPATH sais what? |
| 15:01.00 | Luke-Jr | zecke: ./lib/bb/parse/parse_py/BBHandler.py: debug(2, "BB %s:%d: inheriting %s" % (fn, lineno, file)) |
| 15:01.25 | Laibsch | zecke: /usr/src/openembedded/build:/usr/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev |
| 15:02.07 | Laibsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.28 | zecke | Luke-Jr: good then either you misspelled the inherit or ... |
| 15:02.42 | Luke-Jr | :\ |
| 15:03.12 | zecke | Laibsch: then /usr/src/... has no conf/bitbake.conf?! |
| 15:04.01 | Luke-Jr | zecke: it's parse-time: DEBUG: BB :0: inheriting classes/kde_split.bbclass |
| 15:04.10 | Luke-Jr | DEBUG: CONF file 'classes/kde_split.bbclass' not found |
| 15:04.11 | Luke-Jr | :( |
| 15:04.59 | Laibsch | zecke: Oops, I should read more carefully :-[ |
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| 15:07.37 | RP | XorA: There is not one mention of the word runtime in that log which makes me wonder if it is the same bitbake/OE metadata you're using :-/ |
| 15:08.16 | RP | XorA: It never says things like "Additional runtime dependencies" |
| 15:08.55 | XorA | RP: ah pish, I just realised, its my fault |
| 15:09.22 | Luke-Jr | argh... why won't bitbake find my bbclass |
| 15:09.24 | Luke-Jr | ? |
| 15:09.37 | zecke | RP: we need to kill the usage of bb.encodeurl as well?! (on the fetcher front) |
| 15:10.20 | RP | zecke: We should make a list of things we'd like to do to bitbake |
| 15:10.51 | zecke | I'm currently adding means to bitbake to have a special 'now' meaning |
| 15:11.12 | RP | zecke: excellent - I think there's a bit in the git fetcher that would like that |
| 15:11.14 | Laibsch | After I did a "monotone update" can I go back to prebreakage? I get an error now. |
| 15:11.25 | RP | zecke: I'd like to see gitruncmd become a general fetcher function |
| 15:11.34 | XorA | RP: totally forgot on build machine I use at work I have an installed bitbake, I shall now start again from afresh |
| 15:11.45 | XorA | RP: sorry for the bother |
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| 15:13.08 | RP | XorA: I thought it was strange :) |
| 15:14.07 | XorA | RP: I owe you another beer now, thats twice this week Ive done that |
| 15:15.54 | Luke-Jr | RP: s/beer/pop so OE doesn't lose a kernel dev ;) |
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| 15:20.26 | CoreDump|work | anyone here with admin access to the Monotone Database? |
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| 15:21.36 | Luke-Jr | | /home/luke-jr/src/oe2005/build.alt/tmp/work/kdelibs-dcop-native-3.4.1-r0/temp/run.do_unpack.23432: line 381: `kde_split,_do_unpack': not a valid identifier |
| 15:21.46 | Luke-Jr | WTF? O.o |
| 15:29.58 | zecke | Luke-Jr: not what you wanted to see? |
| 15:30.11 | Luke-Jr | what's adding commas? |
| 15:30.13 | XorA | RP: now those errors that I think you were talking of earlier, ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency python-native NOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native |
| 15:32.41 | RP | XorA: Change the RDEPENDS in ipkg-utils-native to "" |
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| 15:36.24 | XorA | RP: just scrolled back to find that |
| 15:41.19 | Luke-Jr | erm |
| 15:41.46 | zecke | Luke-Jr: sounds like a ','.join to me.. but I have no clue where it might come from |
| 15:41.52 | Luke-Jr | why does qt-x11-free-3.5-r10 stage into tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/qte3/ ? |
| 15:42.10 | Luke-Jr | zecke: I was doing 'inherit native, kde_split', sorry |
| 15:42.34 | Luke-Jr | but now the issue with qte3 vs qt3 |
| 15:42.37 | zecke | Luke-Jr: that is a bug |
| 15:42.46 | zecke | Luke-Jr: either the qt3.bbclass is broken |
| 15:43.01 | zecke | Luke-Jr: the STAGING_INCDIR var for Qt gets set in a bbclass |
| 15:50.12 | Luke-Jr | aha, correction |
| 15:50.19 | Luke-Jr | it's the -native variant that is qte3 |
| 15:51.23 | Luke-Jr | tho I can't see why: |
| 15:51.27 | Luke-Jr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:54.30 | Luke-Jr | err! |
| 15:54.45 | Luke-Jr | I've never built the native variant... where does the qte3 dir come from? :x |
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| 15:57.16 | zecke | pH5: your shell patch has been applied |
| 15:57.29 | zecke | Luke-Jr: uicmoc maybe? |
| 15:57.52 | Luke-Jr | zecke: hrm, but shouldn't that be in qt3 instead? |
| 15:58.14 | zecke | Luke-Jr: uicmoc3-native uses QtE3 ;) |
| 15:58.37 | zecke | Luke-Jr: dunno why people insist on installing a static qte3 :} |
| 15:59.01 | Luke-Jr | zecke: I wonder if that will be a problem :\ |
| 15:59.42 | zecke | Luke-Jr: opie-lupdate uses that lib... |
| 16:02.25 | Luke-Jr | x11-native is broken :\ |
| 16:05.29 | katossi_uni | RP: I've benn out for some weeks and I just read the changelog with your commits, I can only say congratulations!! |
| 16:06.20 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/502518 <-- x11-native b0rked |
| 16:07.03 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 16:07.06 | pH5 | zecke: thanks! |
| 16:11.21 | RP | katossi_uni: thanks :) |
| 16:11.24 | RP | hi pH5 |
| 16:12.46 | pH5 | hi RP |
| 16:15.46 | RP | Hmm. Are the monotone servers ok? |
| 16:16.16 | RP | vanille is refusing connections and ewi connects but doesn't do anything :-/ |
| 16:16.35 | Luke-Jr | same here |
| 16:16.42 | RP | as soon as I type that, ewi wakes up :) |
| 16:16.58 | Luke-Jr | it does? O.o |
| 16:18.10 | florian_kc | RP: vanille is down for several hours now... |
| 16:19.03 | Luke-Jr | I can't even connect to ewi now |
| 16:22.15 | Cobelius | is monotone.vanille.de down? |
| 16:22.31 | Luke-Jr | as usual, yes |
| 16:22.32 | florian_kc | ewi restarts automatically after some minutes. |
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| 16:22.49 | zecke | well mickeyl's irc bot dropped off as well |
| 16:22.51 | Luke-Jr | bah, 0 revs in |
| 16:23.03 | zecke | this could mean the whole Uni Frankfurt/DFG-Net could have ussues |
| 16:23.43 | florian_kc | heh right... seems to be a similar situation like in Siegen :-/ |
| 16:24.23 | florian_kc | I wonder how long it takes for the first department to drop DFN and use DSL ;-) |
| 16:24.45 | Luke-Jr | DFN? O.o |
| 16:24.53 | zecke | Luke-Jr: German Research Network |
| 16:25.10 | zecke | Luke-Jr: Network in the sense of ISP |
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| 16:27.06 | zecke | RP: I feel like breaking bitbake fetcher tonight |
| 16:27.18 | Luke-Jr | fdv: ping |
| 16:27.32 | Luke-Jr | bedboi: ping |
| 16:27.35 | RP | zecke: I think I have some good ideas on how we could break it :) |
| 16:27.54 | Luke-Jr | ugh, x11-native has been broken for almost a year? |
| 16:28.04 | zecke | RP: I will move bb.encodeurl,bb.decodeurl to bb.fetch |
| 16:28.12 | hwtechnik | hi! |
| 16:28.20 | zecke | RP: and then I will put mirroring into Fetch |
| 16:28.43 | RP | zecke: Sounds good. we could move gitruncmd there as well |
| 16:28.49 | RP | suitably renamed |
| 16:29.13 | RP | and make the svn/cvs fetchers use it instead of os.system |
| 16:29.22 | hwtechnik | Any Zaurus-Owners and -Builders here? |
| 16:29.56 | zecke | RP: is it secure? that would be nice... |
| 16:30.17 | RP | zecke: Not so much secure but at least it correctly sets PATH... |
| 16:30.34 | RP | zecke: But making is secure would be a lot easier with all the os.system calls in one place |
| 16:30.50 | florian_kc | Hrm... what did i do wrong here: | checking target system type... Invalid configuration `INVALID-linux': machine `INVALID' not recognized ? |
| 16:31.12 | RP | florian_kc: Change your DISTRO line to something valid |
| 16:31.20 | RP | probably familiar-unstable |
| 16:32.21 | CoreDump|work | hwtechnik: yep |
| 16:33.06 | florian_kc | RP: doh... let me see |
| 16:33.24 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: what model? |
| 16:33.37 | CoreDump|work | Akita and Collie |
| 16:33.44 | RP | hwtechnik: There are a few of us around |
| 16:34.34 | hwtechnik | RP: Cool! At last. |
| 16:35.15 | hwtechnik | RP: Does anybody play around with kernel 2.6 on collie? |
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| 16:36.21 | RP | hwtechnik: Its lagging behind the other 2.6 kernels :-(. John Lenz did a bit of work and more recently, Pavel Machek (from LKML) has been doing some. |
| 16:37.15 | florian_kc | RP: hrm... familiar-0.8.3 should be valid for the familiar/oz stable branch. |
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| 16:37.55 | RP | florian_kc: For the banch, yes. I assumed you were using .dev to see that. Its caused by TARGET_OS not being set... |
| 16:38.15 | RP | which usually means DISTRO isn't right as they set TARGET_OS |
| 16:39.26 | florian_kc | RP: well... i'll invalidate the cache and try again, if it doesn't work then i'll continue to wonder ;-) |
| 16:39.33 | hwtechnik | RP: So, apart from them, nobody really works with 2.6? I try to get OE to build me a collie2.6 machine-config |
| 16:39.51 | RP | hwtechnik: correct |
| 16:40.20 | RP | hwtechnik: Pavel Machek's git tree is probably the most uptodate kernel for collie |
| 16:41.14 | hwtechnik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.56 | RP | hwtechnik: I think the standard collie one is passable but we relly need someone to develope a proper 2.6 one (with udev and things) |
| 16:44.39 | CoreDump|work | um, but of what use is a collie w/o SD card support? To many people next to none |
| 16:45.19 | Luke-Jr | collie lacks CF? |
| 16:45.29 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: My current one is not used, so I dontīt need the SD-support anyway. |
| 16:45.45 | Luke-Jr | I think I've seen a SD card once |
| 16:45.50 | XorA | CoreDump|work: get the SanDisk Connect + working :-) |
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| 16:45.54 | Luke-Jr | that's about all my SD experience ;) |
| 16:46.34 | hwtechnik | XorA: Is there a problem with the SanDisk? |
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| 16:48.16 | CoreDump|work | Um, I was talking about a Collie running a 2.6 kernel. No SD support there |
| 16:48.30 | Luke-Jr | RP: any way to change how the touchscreen works? |
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| 16:48.53 | Luke-Jr | RP: eg, have it only move the cursor and use OK/Cancel for left/right buttons |
| 16:49.09 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: No-one seems to have got IDE and Wireless working at same time |
| 16:50.07 | hwtechnik | XorA: And whatīs with network-cards, CF? billionton, in my case. |
| 16:50.32 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: all hostap supported ones work fine, the Sandisk works fine in wireless or IDE, just not both |
| 16:50.40 | XorA|other | both would rock |
| 16:50.56 | CoreDump|work | that would indeed rock |
| 16:52.11 | hwtechnik | XorA: Ahhh! So youīre talking about the one "special" dual-CF card from SanDisk. |
| 16:52.23 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: yeah the Connect Plus :-) |
| 16:52.57 | hwtechnik | XorA: Finally gotcha ;) |
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| 17:02.59 | hwtechnik | generel question: Does openembedded support downloading directly from a git tree ? |
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| 17:06.04 | CosmicPenguin | hwtechnik: bitbake does support that, yes |
| 17:06.52 | hwtechnik | CosmicPenguin: Sorry for mixing the two up. Am just curios. |
| 17:08.43 | CosmicPenguin | hwtechnik: thats ok, its easy to mix up the two - but the actual fetching is done by bitbake, so we need to give credit where credit is due |
| 17:09.28 | hwtechnik | CosmicPenguin: Roger that :) |
| 17:10.33 | hwtechnik | Has anybody succeeded in building a 2.6 kernel for the collie? I can definitely see the definition-files in there. |
| 17:10.51 | hwtechnik | But the build process always switches to 2.4. |
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| 17:24.18 | CoreDump|work | ahh now how did that work again. In theory the kernel is set with DISTRO and / or MACHINE. I believe there was a var you could set in local.conf to use the 2.6 kernel. |
| 17:24.40 | CoreDump|work | like KERNEL = "2.6" or something like that |
| 17:25.02 | CoreDump|work | sadly I can't check that ATM, |
| 17:27.14 | CoreDump|work | check conf/distro/$your_distro.conf and conf/machine/$your_machine.conf for clues |
| 17:30.15 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Thnx. Will look around there. |
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| 17:54.00 | zecke | re |
| 17:54.06 | zecke | RP: at your order |
| 17:54.11 | zecke | koen|away: ping |
| 17:56.38 | mithro | zecke: ping |
| 17:57.37 | CoreDump|work | wb zecke |
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| 17:58.43 | zecke | mithro: pong |
| 17:59.42 | mithro | zecke: still in Budapest |
| 18:00.13 | zecke | mithro: do you like Buda or Pest more? |
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| 18:03.44 | [g2] | how many non NSLU2 devs have write access to the OE repo ? |
| 18:04.00 | [g2] | guesstimate is what I'm looking for |
| 18:04.32 | mithro | zecke: i think i like Pest a little bit more |
| 18:04.45 | clorabit | hello |
| 18:05.21 | clorabit | where i find info starting with open embedded |
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| 18:05.36 | clorabit | where i can find info starting with open embedded |
| 18:05.50 | zecke | clorabit: oe.handhelds.org? |
| 18:06.22 | mithro | I'm trying to figure out where to go next |
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| 18:08.35 | mithro | my choices are Zagreb, Ljubljana or Belgrade |
| 18:08.41 | clorabit | zecke, where i can look OE tree for online trough html ? |
| 18:09.50 | zecke | clorabit: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 18:10.32 | zecke | mithro: I have not traveled to any of these cities yet :( |
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| 00:07.07 | Luke-Jr | either debug mode doesn't mention bbclasses or it's not being included |
| 00:08.12 | andrewy | to compile a package for the sharp rom do I need to use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch, or will the org.openembedded.dev branch work? |
| 00:09.05 | Luke-Jr | neither will work, last I checked |
| 00:09.11 | Luke-Jr | unless you get really lucky |
| 00:09.17 | andrewy | ah |
| 00:09.31 | andrewy | somewhere the wiki said it would work if i set distro to sharprom-compatible, but thats no longer true? |
| 00:09.42 | Luke-Jr | shrug |
| 00:09.45 | Luke-Jr | maybe it is, try |
| 00:10.01 | andrewy | im pulling the oz354 source, takes a while |
| 00:13.02 | Luke-Jr | no reason to think an OZ branch would work w/ Sharp |
| 00:13.43 | andrewy | yeah, im going to need that for oz anyways though |
| 00:13.59 | Luke-Jr | why? |
| 00:14.06 | Luke-Jr | use openzaurus-unstable :) |
| 00:14.15 | andrewy | isn't it needed for the 3.5.4 oz? |
| 00:14.16 | andrewy | what's that? |
| 00:14.33 | andrewy | i just found out about OE today, so im kind of clueless |
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| 00:15.39 | Luke-Jr | org.openembedded.dev is the absolute latest stuff |
| 00:16.02 | Luke-Jr | oz354fam083 is a (I think) bugfix-only in-progress release for OZ & Familiar |
| 00:16.58 | andrewy | oh.. so if I compile an ipk with oe.dev, i will be able to install it in OZ fine? |
| 00:17.22 | Luke-Jr | I expect so |
| 00:17.37 | Luke-Jr | I don't use OZ releases, tho |
| 00:17.42 | Luke-Jr | I just build my own OZ-based OS for my Z |
| 00:18.08 | andrewy | the only differences is which packages you include, right? |
| 00:18.56 | Luke-Jr | and that I always use openzaurus-unstable |
| 00:22.17 | andrewy | is that another branch? |
| 00:22.29 | Luke-Jr | no |
| 00:22.33 | Luke-Jr | its simply latest in .dev |
| 00:22.37 | andrewy | oh right |
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| 02:59.36 | lkcl | i've started a qt gnokii application if anyone's interested http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xanadux/qomunicator/ |
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| 04:21.24 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/501092 <-- why is the bbclass not being included? |
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| 07:06.36 | jbowler-away | RP: with bitbake -r4 everything seems broken (the whole RDEPENDS of slugos-image simply disappear for some builds), with -r1 things were working, but the PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel definately doesn't work. Here's the bitbake output (PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is set to ixp4xx-kernel): |
| 07:06.39 | jbowler-away | NOTE: multiple providers are available (nslu2-kernel, linux-jlime-sh3, handhelds-sa, linux-openzaurus, gumstix, collie-kernel-24-8, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, collie-kernel-48-16, mnci-ramses, opensimpad, nslu2-linksys-kernel, openzaurus-sa, linux-omap1, openzaurus-pxa27x, linux-mtx-1, linux-geodegx, collie-kernel-58-6, poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, xanadux-ba-2.6, openzaurus-pxa, linux-h1940, ipod, collie-kernel-32-0, linux-omap-2.6, linux-h6300-om |
| 07:06.41 | jbowler-away | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel |
| 07:06.57 | jbowler-away | slugos-image RDEPENDS start with "kernel" |
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| 08:47.27 | RP | jbowler: This is a bit of a concern as -r4 (which is basically the same as -r6) should work just as well :-/ |
| 08:47.57 | RP | morning all |
| 08:47.58 | XorA | morning |
| 08:48.31 | RP | jbowler: I've just had an opie-image build sucessfully... |
| 08:49.15 | RP | jbowler: Perhaps its some issue specific to slugos image as I fixed a number of corner cases in the code, one of it which it might have been relying on |
| 08:54.10 | XorA | RP: http://sam.rpsys.net/bitbake-rprovides-r5.patch the current patch? |
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| 08:55.16 | jbowler | I find that if I add DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth" to slugos-image.bb it works fine, if I don't have it the required kernel is not used. |
| 08:55.30 | RP | XorA: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r6.patch |
| 08:55.53 | jbowler | I haven't tried that patch yet though... |
| 08:56.22 | jbowler | RP: do you see any problem if I incorporate your LEDs patches into the NSLU2 (etc) kernel? |
| 08:56.22 | RP | jbowler: Ah, I think I understand. Try -r6 as I did change something which will have a big effect on slugos |
| 08:57.19 | RP | jbowler: No problem at all. I did talk to Alessandro about the NSLU using them |
| 08:57.52 | RP | jbowler: In -r4, RDEPENDS were built, then DEPENDS. This is obviously wrong and I changed that for -r5/r6 |
| 08:57.55 | jbowler | Presumably I have to set up the GPIO definitions correctly (number and polarity) in NSLU2 specific code? |
| 08:58.37 | RP | jbowler: You need a specific LED driver for the NSLU2. I think Alessandro might have some code already |
| 08:59.28 | jbowler | Yes, he said he had looked at it. |
| 09:01.08 | jbowler | -r6 has an error in the 'nothing provides' message, it was in r4 too: |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.22 | jbowler | NameError: global name 'itemtype' is not defined |
| 09:01.47 | jbowler | (That's from "bitbake kernel", kernel is RPROVIDED I believe). |
| 09:03.11 | RP | jbowler: That's a typo, fixing, thanks |
| 09:04.49 | jbowler | Do I need to remove the cache going from r1 to r6? At present with r6 bitbake slugos-image gives me: |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency python-native |
| 09:05.00 | jbowler | NOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native |
| 09:05.29 | RP | Ah. This is a bug in the metadata - add an RDEPENDS="" to ipkg-utils-native for now |
| 09:05.49 | RP | Basically, inherit native sets PACKAGES to "" which breaks things like this |
| 09:06.01 | RP | This isn't bitbake but OE being incorrect |
| 09:06.15 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch has the typo fixed |
| 09:06.48 | RP | and that error shouldn't have been "kernel" but something else as its a build time dependency |
| 09:07.42 | jbowler | RP: ipkg-utils-native explicitly sets both RDEPENDS and PACKAGES: |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | RDEPENDS = "python-native" |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | # Avoid circular dependencies from package_ipk.bbclass |
| 09:07.50 | jbowler | PACKAGES = "" |
| 09:08.52 | RP | jbowler: That PACKAGES isn't needed as native.bbclass also does this if I remember rightly which is why python-native can't be found |
| 09:09.58 | RP | I don't know what the DEPENDS and RDEPENDS of a native packahe should be exactly really. I guess the above is correct, native.bbclass shouldn't be setting PACKAGES and should set BUILD_ALL_DEPS = 1 |
| 09:11.19 | jbowler | In general it should be that foo-native includes foo and foo has a list of RDEPENDS "a b c", then foo-native should RDEPEND on "a-native b-native c-native". |
| 09:11.34 | jbowler | Getting that to work might be difficult though ;-) |
| 09:12.16 | RP | jbowler: I think my comments above have that covered, Changing PACKAGES="" in native.bbclass is going to break things though :) |
| 09:12.51 | RP | For now, until we fix other things, setting RDEPENDS="" in that one .bb file is a tempting work around :) |
| 09:13.27 | XorA | seeing as the plan is that STAGING becomes package controlled, shouldn't native become a build of a package for ARCH=${BUILD_ARCH} or something similar? |
| 09:13.39 | XorA | and then -native disappears |
| 09:14.09 | jbowler | Yes, it should - the -native package and inherit native already do that, but they also stop the packaging. |
| 09:14.53 | RP | There are a lot of issues here which we can hit once we have "normal" packaging for staging working. One step at a time... :) |
| 09:15.12 | XorA | RP: fair enough, Im still too scared to look at bitbake code |
| 09:16.27 | RP | It is scary, especially if you don't know python verry well :) |
| 09:17.06 | RP | But I'm really happy with -r6 as its feels like its doing everything properly |
| 09:17.30 | RP | jbowler: I'll be very interested to see if slugos-image builds... |
| 09:17.42 | XorA | RP: I dont, I think Im too old for these new fangled languages :-) nearest I got is a patch for binconfig.bbclass many years ago |
| 09:18.15 | jbowler | It looks like it does, but it's just starting slugos-lag, that will show if there are any problems now (I have the slugos-image.bb DEPENDS commented out again) |
| 09:19.22 | RP | jbowler: Other changes from -r4 include ignoring circular runtime dependencies and only building the rdepends of subpackages that are actually rdepended on themselves |
| 09:19.50 | RP | The latter point is important for meta-opie as it declares lots of tasks but opie-image only uses a small number of them |
| 09:20.32 | RP | (a task being a subpackage of RDEPENDS for a particular function like task-bootstrap) |
| 09:22.45 | jbowler | Is this a side effect of an r1->r7 change? |
| 09:22.46 | jbowler | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for kernel: |
| 09:22.47 | jbowler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:24.04 | RP | jbowler: Have you pulled the change to kernel.bbclass which adds PACKAGES_DYNAMIC = "kernel-image-*" to kernel.bblcass? |
| 09:24.18 | RP | It was a while ago so I'd suspect you should have... |
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| 09:24.26 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:24.29 | RP | hi dirk |
| 09:24.40 | jbowler | RP: I believe I have that change |
| 09:24.44 | do13_ | hi Richard |
| 09:25.35 | jbowler | I actually changed bitbake code while bitbake was running though... |
| 09:26.43 | RP | jbowler: I can't find that error in my bitbake code... |
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| 09:27.36 | jbowler | It's something to do with deleting the slugos-image DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel virtual/ixp-eth", because when I rebuild now I get the multiple providers message for the kernel. |
| 09:28.53 | RP | It should no longer suggest PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel as a solution though? |
| 09:29.15 | jbowler | No, it says: |
| 09:29.18 | jbowler | NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime kernel-image- |
| 09:30.07 | RP | Ah, kernel-image-. Not kernel.That's interesting |
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| 09:33.01 | RP | jbowler: Does it continue past that or error out with the cannot satisfy kernel-image error? |
| 09:33.34 | RP | Its interesting is says kernel-image and not kernel-image-2.6.15 as well... |
| 09:35.31 | jbowler | The build complains about multiple providers, but the image rootfs step cannot find kernel-image-2.6.15 even though it downloaded kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:35.44 | alan|laptop | morning ! |
| 09:36.17 | jbowler | Still, the problem may be that I changed the bitbake - it only built that kernel with the old (-r1) bitbake. |
| 09:36.30 | RP | jbowler: Ah, that's an ipkg error. |
| 09:36.38 | jbowler | Yes |
| 09:37.06 | RP | jbowler: Check if kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk exists |
| 09:37.33 | RP | I suspect bitbake will have created kernel-image-_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk instead |
| 09:37.57 | RP | Your question becomes why has ${KERNEL-VERSION} disappeared? |
| 09:38.19 | jbowler | I'm not sure - I deleted deploy/ipk/kernel* |
| 09:38.37 | jbowler | Ah, ok, it still happens... |
| 09:39.15 | jbowler | And I have kernel-image-2.6.15_2.6.15-r3.0_nslu2l.ipk |
| 09:39.32 | jbowler | (That's the correct name - because it now picks up the correct kernel .bb) |
| 09:40.24 | jbowler | ipkg isn't attempting to install the kernel-image- ipk |
| 09:40.58 | jbowler | It downloads kernel_2.6.15-r3.0_ixp4xxl.ipk |
| 09:41.16 | RP | If ipkg was asked to install kernel-image- instead of kernel-image-2.6.15, that would break it |
| 09:41.44 | RP | I think you probably need to clean tmp and work out exactly where the build is breaking down... |
| 09:42.58 | jbowler | slugos-lag is already half way through, and that started clean with -r7 |
| 09:45.45 | RP | ok. I've noticed my last opie builds were slighly more correct in the build choices - it build libxine-fb instead of libxine for example |
| 09:46.28 | jbowler | I think it's my mistake - my ipkgarchs is not up-to-date |
| 09:49.45 | RP | ah, ok. That would explain why ipkg was upset |
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| 10:54.24 | RP | gpe-image works with -r6 :) |
| 11:05.55 | XorA | RP: Im upto gcc-cross :-) |
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| 11:06.35 | CoreDump|home | umm are there problems w/ ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl amt? I' getting "monotone: read from fd 9 (peer ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl) failed, disconnecting" when trying to push |
| 11:06.51 | CoreDump|home | s/amt/atm |
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| 11:14.10 | RP | CoreDump|home: Did you have your write access renabled after updating your database? |
| 11:16.11 | CoreDump|home | ahh no |
| 11:16.50 | CoreDump|home | who do I need to talk to for that as mickeyl is away? koen I guess? |
| 11:19.43 | doppiaemme | Just a question... Is it correct that bootstrap-image has /boot empty?? |
| 11:20.38 | RP | doppiaemme: That would depend on the machine |
| 11:21.51 | doppiaemme | RP: I bitbake bootstrap-image for VIA epia machine, it compiled ok but /boot is empty... |
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| 11:25.00 | RP | doppiaemme: I'm not familar with the epia. Should it have a kernel in there or is the kernel loaded in some other way? |
| 11:26.57 | doppiaemme | RP: this is what I don't understand... for now I've a bootstrap-image, putting the rootfs on a CF and booting from it isn't enough... I know it's a newbie problem but I can't find any docs... |
| 11:28.12 | RP | doppiaemme: I don't know enough about the epia to offer any useful advice I'm afraid |
| 11:28.54 | _law_ | is here someone, how has an clamshell where hostap drivers work without loading modules by hand once? |
| 11:29.19 | _law_ | or g_ether |
| 11:29.35 | doppiaemme | RP: no problem, thanks :-) |
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| 11:29.52 | lrg|home | morning all |
| 11:29.53 | RP | hi liam |
| 11:30.09 | lrg|home | RP thanks for that mail :) |
| 11:30.20 | RP | _law_: g_ether shouldn't autoload as you might want one of the other gadgets |
| 11:30.53 | RP | _law_: hostap should autoload but doesn't after a reboot - removing and inserting the card usually wakes it up |
| 11:31.10 | RP | lrg|home: np. I noticed you fell out the cc again :) |
| 11:31.13 | XorA | _law_: hostap works fine here |
| 11:31.20 | XorA | _law_: g-ether needs to be modprobed |
| 11:31.49 | _law_ | RP, i always have to modprobe after reboot. i have got an netgear wlan card |
| 11:31.55 | _law_ | will try my asus later |
| 11:32.18 | lrg|home | RP: can you forward and I'll reply and remind him I'm the contact |
| 11:33.55 | RP | lrg|home: If it happens again, I will do |
| 11:34.39 | lrg|home | RP: thanks, I guess thats another beer I'm due you a Fosdem. I'm losing count now :) |
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| 11:35.46 | RP | lrg|home: Looks like I won't be very sober at fosdem either :) |
| 11:35.55 | lrg|home | heh |
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| 11:39.53 | do13_ | Hi Liam |
| 11:40.06 | lrg|home | hi Dirk |
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| 11:41.43 | do13_ | lrg|home: I haven't tested wm97xx_register_misc_dev. It was too late yesterday. |
| 11:42.33 | zecke | hi |
| 11:42.38 | zecke | CoreDump|home: lart you ;) |
| 11:42.48 | lrg|home | do13: np, do you know Ole Reinhardt at kernelconcepts. He's doing some testing with the driver today using the wm9705 |
| 11:42.58 | lrg|home | zecke: hey |
| 11:42.59 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 11:43.34 | zecke | CoreDump|home: you broke the tailorization ;) |
| 11:43.48 | CoreDump|home | I don't get it |
| 11:44.09 | RP | hi zecke |
| 11:44.23 | zecke | CoreDump|home: "Akita/Spitz: Use OE f?r setting CMDLINE, not defconfig. |
| 11:44.25 | zecke | " |
| 11:44.35 | RP | zecke: My builds all worked out with the bitbake patch so its looking good. I've created r7 due to a typo |
| 11:44.38 | zecke | CoreDump|home: breaks importing the cset into a svn repository |
| 11:44.43 | lrg|home | do13: he's testing wm9075 aux adc and touch at the same time on a custom platform. should be interesting to see if he has the pen down issue. |
| 11:44.45 | do13_ | lrg|home: I read a post on lakml |
| 11:44.53 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch |
| 11:44.55 | CoreDump|home | I don't even remember pushing that lol |
| 11:45.59 | lrg|home | do13: my trip to Shanghai is now on the 3rd Feb, so I would hope we can have it all working before your trip to Spain |
| 11:46.26 | zecke | CoreDump|home: I'm currently converting our monotone db to Git, Darcs and SVN |
| 11:46.35 | do13_ | lrg|home: Did you tosa arrived? |
| 11:46.37 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 11:47.11 | zecke | RP: I will leave at 14:00 torwards the office. I will do a build as well and then commit the patch |
| 11:47.18 | CoreDump|home | but what does OE care about that? |
| 11:47.40 | lrg|home | do13: not yet, however snail mail is slow in the UK. :( Hopefully get it by the weekend. |
| 11:47.41 | do13_ | lrg|home: I'm next week on vacation |
| 11:48.06 | XorA | lrg|home: you in the uk? |
| 11:48.20 | do13_ | lrg|home: So we have this weekend :) |
| 11:48.25 | lrg|home | do13: np, I'll probably have it fixed on your return |
| 11:48.47 | lrg|home | XorA: yes, Dunfermline |
| 11:48.59 | XorA | lrg|home: we must get together, Im edin based |
| 11:49.59 | CoreDump|home | anyway,gottagoto work, later |
| 11:50.09 | lrg|home | XorA: do you go to edlug ? |
| 11:50.39 | XorA | lrg|home: No, Ive been in holyrood on same night as it a few times 3-4 years ago |
| 11:51.58 | lrg|home | XorA: ah, I recommend coming along one night. Incinerator also goes. Do you work in Edin ? |
| 11:52.10 | XorA | lrg|home: upstairs from Virgin Megastore |
| 11:52.25 | XorA | lrg|home: I shall have to try and make it sometime |
| 11:52.38 | XorA | lrg|home: Ime sure I owe you a beer for the sound driver :-) |
| 11:53.01 | lrg|home | XorA: I work at Wolfson next to Murrayfield. I'm probably due you a beer as well :) |
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| 11:53.22 | do13_ | lrg|home: How far is Dunfermline away from Salisbury? |
| 11:53.39 | lrg|home | XorA: if you were a student, I could have offered you a summer placement to linux audio |
| 11:53.54 | XorA | lrg|home: been a long time since I was a student :-) |
| 11:54.13 | lrg|home | do13: oh about 500 miles (english geog not very good) |
| 11:54.36 | XorA | lrg|home: thats about right |
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| 11:54.41 | XorA | lrg|home: the distance that is |
| 11:54.53 | do13_ | lrg|home: Ok. It's too far away. |
| 11:55.27 | lrg|home | do13: are you going to Salisbury ? |
| 11:55.45 | do13_ | lrg|home: We have an office in Salisbury |
| 11:56.09 | lrg|home | do13: ah, pb_ lives closer to Salisbury. He lives in Cambridge |
| 11:57.09 | do13_ | lrg|home: Thanks |
| 11:57.29 | do13_ | lrg|home, RP you will visit FOSDEM? |
| 11:58.06 | lrg|home | do13: yes, I've still to make my hotel arrangements. It would be nice if we were all booked into the same hotel |
| 11:59.31 | RP | do13_: Yes, that's the plan |
| 11:59.43 | do13_ | lrg|home: You wil arrive on 24th? |
| 12:00.31 | lrg|home | do13: I've not booked any travel yet, so I'm flexible |
| 12:01.54 | do13_ | I'll look at a flight. Maybe we can met. |
| 12:02.47 | lrg|home | do13: yes, that would be cool. I'll book my travel to be there on the 24th. |
| 12:03.07 | RP | I suspect I'll arrive midday on the 24th |
| 12:03.15 | RP | but nothing's booked yet |
| 12:03.38 | lrg|home | RP: cool, let me know if your hotel and I'll try and book the same |
| 12:04.21 | do13_ | First of all I have to fight with my wife:) |
| 12:04.32 | RP | lrg|home: will do. Its in my boss' hands atm. |
| 12:10.50 | do13_ | RP: Let me know your hotel |
| 12:10.51 | zecke | koen|away: ping! |
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| 12:12.32 | zecke | koen|away: dpkg-reconfigure locales and please add german! |
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| 12:27.27 | kami22 | hi i know that i am still asking the same questions but i am still trying to compile php for my openslug and i always get this error : http://pastebin.ca/36581 |
| 12:30.35 | RP | kami22: Its trying to use libs in /usr/lib instead of staging. |
| 12:31.05 | kami22 | okay but how can i fix this? |
| 12:31.09 | kami22 | easily :) |
| 12:31.29 | RP | Find out why it passes -L/usr/lib into that commandline |
| 12:31.33 | RP | It shouldn't be |
| 12:32.04 | kami22 | but i didnt change anything to the standard bb files |
| 12:32.13 | kami22 | cant you try to compile php? |
| 12:32.41 | kami22 | maybe there is a bug in the bb file? |
| 12:33.19 | RP | kami22: There is a bug either in the .bb or in php itself which is breaking when cross compiling. Someone needs to work out why and fix it |
| 12:34.29 | kami22 | yes but i think i am not so intelligent to do this on my own |
| 12:35.28 | RP | kami22: You can learn ;-) |
| 12:36.00 | zecke | darcs and git are up-to-date again |
| 12:36.26 | kami22 | RP: maybe i thousand years :) |
| 12:36.31 | RP | zecke: I'm still trying to remember how to use git again :) |
| 12:36.48 | zecke | RP: cg-clone, cg-update ;) |
| 12:36.54 | zecke | RP: cg-log |
| 12:37.01 | zecke | cg-<tab> |
| 12:37.14 | RP | zecke: I have raw git installed :) |
| 12:37.26 | zecke | that is disgusting |
| 12:37.37 | zecke | git clone ? |
| 12:37.41 | zecke | git update? |
| 12:37.43 | zecke | git log? |
| 12:38.05 | RP | near enough. but then try switching branches :) |
| 12:38.16 | zecke | kami22: do you fail turing tests? |
| 12:38.27 | zecke | RP: cd ../other-branch ; cg-update? |
| 12:38.48 | RP | git branch xyz; git checkout -f abc |
| 12:39.05 | RP | The -f had me puzzled for a while :) |
| 12:39.10 | zecke | kami22: if not I'm confident you can fix php's build system |
| 12:39.30 | RP | I should try cognito :) |
| 12:41.04 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:44.21 | XorA | kami22: I think unless you are willing to roll up your sleeves and look into problem yourself its going to be a long while before anyone here does |
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| 12:49.07 | kami22 | sorry but i think i dont know what the problem is to compile php for the slug it cant be that difficult to get it working? |
| 12:49.55 | XorA | kami22: the problem is zecke, RP etc are all working on other stuff, there isnt enough man power about to fix every problem in every bb, someone will eventually do it when they need php |
| 12:51.05 | zecke | kami22: you are spending at least three days on that issue already. What about putting some energy/brain power into it? |
| 12:51.29 | zecke | anyway cya later |
| 12:56.59 | kami22 | i am trying everything now but i cant get a solution and i am not a programmer |
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| 13:13.30 | XorA | RP: http://pastebin.com/502284 probably ny fault somewhere |
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| 13:44.06 | RP | XorA: This is latest OE metadata with the -r7 bitbake patch and a bitbake gpe-image? |
| 13:47.44 | Cobelius | What does the class debian do`? |
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| 13:49.28 | RP | Cobelius: Renames packages in a debian like way |
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| 14:07.22 | XorA | RP: yes to all |
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| 14:08.59 | zecke | re |
| 14:11.09 | RP | XorA: Not good then. I don't understand it as everything worked ok here :-/ |
| 14:12.26 | RP | XorA: Try running "bitbake -D -n gpe-image" and I'll have a look for any problems |
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| 14:18.30 | XorA | RP: http://www.xora.org.uk/buildlog |
| 14:23.25 | RP | XorA: Was this from a clean tmp dir? |
| 14:23.30 | XorA | RP: yes |
| 14:26.38 | RP | XorA: There is no mention of gpe-task-* in there and there should be :-/ |
| 14:28.19 | XorA | RP: dropped too many depends somewhere? |
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| 14:28.42 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 14:29.51 | RP | hi florian_kc |
| 14:30.30 | RP | XorA: looks a bit like it somehow. I get the same results from bitbake -n -D here which is somewhat puzzling as the build worked earlier... |
| 14:31.12 | XorA | RP: well at least I can quickly test any fix |
| 14:34.01 | XorA | probably down the side of the couch with all the other missing stuff |
| 14:34.42 | RP | XorA: Could you rerun that with -D -D please? The thngs I'm interested in don't appear unless you do that :) |
| 14:35.11 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:35.46 | RP | morning chouimat |
| 14:35.52 | florian_kc | hi chouimat |
| 14:40.02 | florian_kc | Oh well.. merging in ~450 revisions takes a while. |
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| 14:47.38 | zecke | florian_kc: good decision. If you want something only read only you might try git or darcs |
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| 14:50.12 | XorA | RP: running |
| 14:52.22 | florian_kc | zecke: well... since i need to fix it anyway i give it another try. i think i have quite some stuff to commit. |
| 14:52.35 | florian_kc | btw. did koen|away commit my quilt fixes? |
| 14:52.52 | XorA | RP: http://www.xora.org.uk/buildlog2 |
| 14:54.17 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/501092 <-- why is the bbclass not being included? |
| 14:56.20 | zecke | Luke-Jr: -DDD ??? |
| 14:57.50 | Luke-Jr | zecke: nothing suggests any bbclass for it |
| 14:58.41 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/502426 is w/ debug |
| 14:58.49 | Luke-Jr | about 7 Ds, IIRC |
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| 14:59.39 | zecke | Luke-Jr: well the logging stills of bitbake are missing. I fear you will need to take it on with the parser |
| 14:59.53 | zecke | Luke-Jr: just make it print a line on any file it tries to include |
| 15:00.18 | zecke | we should change inherit's semantic to use require instead of include |
| 15:00.29 | Laibsch | I set up a new computer for compiling OE. I think I followed the GettingStarted page in the wiki but I still get an error "ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf". I am in the build directory and build/conf/local.conf exists. Any clues? |
| 15:00.55 | zecke | Laibsch: echo $BBPATH sais what? |
| 15:01.00 | Luke-Jr | zecke: ./lib/bb/parse/parse_py/BBHandler.py: debug(2, "BB %s:%d: inheriting %s" % (fn, lineno, file)) |
| 15:01.25 | Laibsch | zecke: /usr/src/openembedded/build:/usr/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev |
| 15:02.07 | Laibsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.28 | zecke | Luke-Jr: good then either you misspelled the inherit or ... |
| 15:02.42 | Luke-Jr | :\ |
| 15:03.12 | zecke | Laibsch: then /usr/src/... has no conf/bitbake.conf?! |
| 15:04.01 | Luke-Jr | zecke: it's parse-time: DEBUG: BB :0: inheriting classes/kde_split.bbclass |
| 15:04.10 | Luke-Jr | DEBUG: CONF file 'classes/kde_split.bbclass' not found |
| 15:04.11 | Luke-Jr | :( |
| 15:04.59 | Laibsch | zecke: Oops, I should read more carefully :-[ |
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| 15:07.37 | RP | XorA: There is not one mention of the word runtime in that log which makes me wonder if it is the same bitbake/OE metadata you're using :-/ |
| 15:08.16 | RP | XorA: It never says things like "Additional runtime dependencies" |
| 15:08.55 | XorA | RP: ah pish, I just realised, its my fault |
| 15:09.22 | Luke-Jr | argh... why won't bitbake find my bbclass |
| 15:09.24 | Luke-Jr | ? |
| 15:09.37 | zecke | RP: we need to kill the usage of bb.encodeurl as well?! (on the fetcher front) |
| 15:10.20 | RP | zecke: We should make a list of things we'd like to do to bitbake |
| 15:10.51 | zecke | I'm currently adding means to bitbake to have a special 'now' meaning |
| 15:11.12 | RP | zecke: excellent - I think there's a bit in the git fetcher that would like that |
| 15:11.14 | Laibsch | After I did a "monotone update" can I go back to prebreakage? I get an error now. |
| 15:11.25 | RP | zecke: I'd like to see gitruncmd become a general fetcher function |
| 15:11.34 | XorA | RP: totally forgot on build machine I use at work I have an installed bitbake, I shall now start again from afresh |
| 15:11.45 | XorA | RP: sorry for the bother |
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| 15:13.08 | RP | XorA: I thought it was strange :) |
| 15:14.07 | XorA | RP: I owe you another beer now, thats twice this week Ive done that |
| 15:15.54 | Luke-Jr | RP: s/beer/pop so OE doesn't lose a kernel dev ;) |
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| 15:20.26 | CoreDump|work | anyone here with admin access to the Monotone Database? |
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| 15:21.36 | Luke-Jr | | /home/luke-jr/src/oe2005/build.alt/tmp/work/kdelibs-dcop-native-3.4.1-r0/temp/run.do_unpack.23432: line 381: `kde_split,_do_unpack': not a valid identifier |
| 15:21.46 | Luke-Jr | WTF? O.o |
| 15:29.58 | zecke | Luke-Jr: not what you wanted to see? |
| 15:30.11 | Luke-Jr | what's adding commas? |
| 15:30.13 | XorA | RP: now those errors that I think you were talking of earlier, ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency python-native NOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native |
| 15:32.41 | RP | XorA: Change the RDEPENDS in ipkg-utils-native to "" |
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| 15:36.24 | XorA | RP: just scrolled back to find that |
| 15:41.19 | Luke-Jr | erm |
| 15:41.46 | zecke | Luke-Jr: sounds like a ','.join to me.. but I have no clue where it might come from |
| 15:41.52 | Luke-Jr | why does qt-x11-free-3.5-r10 stage into tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/qte3/ ? |
| 15:42.10 | Luke-Jr | zecke: I was doing 'inherit native, kde_split', sorry |
| 15:42.34 | Luke-Jr | but now the issue with qte3 vs qt3 |
| 15:42.37 | zecke | Luke-Jr: that is a bug |
| 15:42.46 | zecke | Luke-Jr: either the qt3.bbclass is broken |
| 15:43.01 | zecke | Luke-Jr: the STAGING_INCDIR var for Qt gets set in a bbclass |
| 15:50.12 | Luke-Jr | aha, correction |
| 15:50.19 | Luke-Jr | it's the -native variant that is qte3 |
| 15:51.23 | Luke-Jr | tho I can't see why: |
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| 15:54.30 | Luke-Jr | err! |
| 15:54.45 | Luke-Jr | I've never built the native variant... where does the qte3 dir come from? :x |
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| 15:57.16 | zecke | pH5: your shell patch has been applied |
| 15:57.29 | zecke | Luke-Jr: uicmoc maybe? |
| 15:57.52 | Luke-Jr | zecke: hrm, but shouldn't that be in qt3 instead? |
| 15:58.14 | zecke | Luke-Jr: uicmoc3-native uses QtE3 ;) |
| 15:58.37 | zecke | Luke-Jr: dunno why people insist on installing a static qte3 :} |
| 15:59.01 | Luke-Jr | zecke: I wonder if that will be a problem :\ |
| 15:59.42 | zecke | Luke-Jr: opie-lupdate uses that lib... |
| 16:02.25 | Luke-Jr | x11-native is broken :\ |
| 16:05.29 | katossi_uni | RP: I've benn out for some weeks and I just read the changelog with your commits, I can only say congratulations!! |
| 16:06.20 | Luke-Jr | http://pastebin.com/502518 <-- x11-native b0rked |
| 16:07.03 | pH5 | hi everyone |
| 16:07.06 | pH5 | zecke: thanks! |
| 16:11.21 | RP | katossi_uni: thanks :) |
| 16:11.24 | RP | hi pH5 |
| 16:12.46 | pH5 | hi RP |
| 16:15.46 | RP | Hmm. Are the monotone servers ok? |
| 16:16.16 | RP | vanille is refusing connections and ewi connects but doesn't do anything :-/ |
| 16:16.35 | Luke-Jr | same here |
| 16:16.42 | RP | as soon as I type that, ewi wakes up :) |
| 16:16.58 | Luke-Jr | it does? O.o |
| 16:18.10 | florian_kc | RP: vanille is down for several hours now... |
| 16:19.03 | Luke-Jr | I can't even connect to ewi now |
| 16:22.15 | Cobelius | is monotone.vanille.de down? |
| 16:22.31 | Luke-Jr | as usual, yes |
| 16:22.32 | florian_kc | ewi restarts automatically after some minutes. |
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| 16:22.49 | zecke | well mickeyl's irc bot dropped off as well |
| 16:22.51 | Luke-Jr | bah, 0 revs in |
| 16:23.03 | zecke | this could mean the whole Uni Frankfurt/DFG-Net could have ussues |
| 16:23.43 | florian_kc | heh right... seems to be a similar situation like in Siegen :-/ |
| 16:24.23 | florian_kc | I wonder how long it takes for the first department to drop DFN and use DSL ;-) |
| 16:24.45 | Luke-Jr | DFN? O.o |
| 16:24.53 | zecke | Luke-Jr: German Research Network |
| 16:25.10 | zecke | Luke-Jr: Network in the sense of ISP |
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| 16:27.06 | zecke | RP: I feel like breaking bitbake fetcher tonight |
| 16:27.18 | Luke-Jr | fdv: ping |
| 16:27.32 | Luke-Jr | bedboi: ping |
| 16:27.35 | RP | zecke: I think I have some good ideas on how we could break it :) |
| 16:27.54 | Luke-Jr | ugh, x11-native has been broken for almost a year? |
| 16:28.04 | zecke | RP: I will move bb.encodeurl,bb.decodeurl to bb.fetch |
| 16:28.12 | hwtechnik | hi! |
| 16:28.20 | zecke | RP: and then I will put mirroring into Fetch |
| 16:28.43 | RP | zecke: Sounds good. we could move gitruncmd there as well |
| 16:28.49 | RP | suitably renamed |
| 16:29.13 | RP | and make the svn/cvs fetchers use it instead of os.system |
| 16:29.22 | hwtechnik | Any Zaurus-Owners and -Builders here? |
| 16:29.56 | zecke | RP: is it secure? that would be nice... |
| 16:30.17 | RP | zecke: Not so much secure but at least it correctly sets PATH... |
| 16:30.34 | RP | zecke: But making is secure would be a lot easier with all the os.system calls in one place |
| 16:30.50 | florian_kc | Hrm... what did i do wrong here: | checking target system type... Invalid configuration `INVALID-linux': machine `INVALID' not recognized ? |
| 16:31.12 | RP | florian_kc: Change your DISTRO line to something valid |
| 16:31.20 | RP | probably familiar-unstable |
| 16:32.21 | CoreDump|work | hwtechnik: yep |
| 16:33.06 | florian_kc | RP: doh... let me see |
| 16:33.24 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: what model? |
| 16:33.37 | CoreDump|work | Akita and Collie |
| 16:33.44 | RP | hwtechnik: There are a few of us around |
| 16:34.34 | hwtechnik | RP: Cool! At last. |
| 16:35.15 | hwtechnik | RP: Does anybody play around with kernel 2.6 on collie? |
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| 16:36.21 | RP | hwtechnik: Its lagging behind the other 2.6 kernels :-(. John Lenz did a bit of work and more recently, Pavel Machek (from LKML) has been doing some. |
| 16:37.15 | florian_kc | RP: hrm... familiar-0.8.3 should be valid for the familiar/oz stable branch. |
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| 16:37.55 | RP | florian_kc: For the banch, yes. I assumed you were using .dev to see that. Its caused by TARGET_OS not being set... |
| 16:38.15 | RP | which usually means DISTRO isn't right as they set TARGET_OS |
| 16:39.26 | florian_kc | RP: well... i'll invalidate the cache and try again, if it doesn't work then i'll continue to wonder ;-) |
| 16:39.33 | hwtechnik | RP: So, apart from them, nobody really works with 2.6? I try to get OE to build me a collie2.6 machine-config |
| 16:39.51 | RP | hwtechnik: correct |
| 16:40.20 | RP | hwtechnik: Pavel Machek's git tree is probably the most uptodate kernel for collie |
| 16:41.14 | hwtechnik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.56 | RP | hwtechnik: I think the standard collie one is passable but we relly need someone to develope a proper 2.6 one (with udev and things) |
| 16:44.39 | CoreDump|work | um, but of what use is a collie w/o SD card support? To many people next to none |
| 16:45.19 | Luke-Jr | collie lacks CF? |
| 16:45.29 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: My current one is not used, so I dontīt need the SD-support anyway. |
| 16:45.45 | Luke-Jr | I think I've seen a SD card once |
| 16:45.50 | XorA | CoreDump|work: get the SanDisk Connect + working :-) |
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| 16:45.54 | Luke-Jr | that's about all my SD experience ;) |
| 16:46.34 | hwtechnik | XorA: Is there a problem with the SanDisk? |
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| 16:48.16 | CoreDump|work | Um, I was talking about a Collie running a 2.6 kernel. No SD support there |
| 16:48.30 | Luke-Jr | RP: any way to change how the touchscreen works? |
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| 16:48.53 | Luke-Jr | RP: eg, have it only move the cursor and use OK/Cancel for left/right buttons |
| 16:49.09 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: No-one seems to have got IDE and Wireless working at same time |
| 16:50.07 | hwtechnik | XorA: And whatīs with network-cards, CF? billionton, in my case. |
| 16:50.32 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: all hostap supported ones work fine, the Sandisk works fine in wireless or IDE, just not both |
| 16:50.40 | XorA|other | both would rock |
| 16:50.56 | CoreDump|work | that would indeed rock |
| 16:52.11 | hwtechnik | XorA: Ahhh! So youīre talking about the one "special" dual-CF card from SanDisk. |
| 16:52.23 | XorA|other | hwtechnik: yeah the Connect Plus :-) |
| 16:52.57 | hwtechnik | XorA: Finally gotcha ;) |
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| 17:02.59 | hwtechnik | generel question: Does openembedded support downloading directly from a git tree ? |
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| 17:06.04 | CosmicPenguin | hwtechnik: bitbake does support that, yes |
| 17:06.52 | hwtechnik | CosmicPenguin: Sorry for mixing the two up. Am just curios. |
| 17:08.43 | CosmicPenguin | hwtechnik: thats ok, its easy to mix up the two - but the actual fetching is done by bitbake, so we need to give credit where credit is due |
| 17:09.28 | hwtechnik | CosmicPenguin: Roger that :) |
| 17:10.33 | hwtechnik | Has anybody succeeded in building a 2.6 kernel for the collie? I can definitely see the definition-files in there. |
| 17:10.51 | hwtechnik | But the build process always switches to 2.4. |
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| 17:24.18 | CoreDump|work | ahh now how did that work again. In theory the kernel is set with DISTRO and / or MACHINE. I believe there was a var you could set in local.conf to use the 2.6 kernel. |
| 17:24.40 | CoreDump|work | like KERNEL = "2.6" or something like that |
| 17:25.02 | CoreDump|work | sadly I can't check that ATM, |
| 17:27.14 | CoreDump|work | check conf/distro/$your_distro.conf and conf/machine/$your_machine.conf for clues |
| 17:30.15 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Thnx. Will look around there. |
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| 17:54.00 | zecke | re |
| 17:54.06 | zecke | RP: at your order |
| 17:54.11 | zecke | koen|away: ping |
| 17:56.38 | mithro | zecke: ping |
| 17:57.37 | CoreDump|work | wb zecke |
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| 17:58.43 | zecke | mithro: pong |
| 17:59.42 | mithro | zecke: still in Budapest |
| 18:00.13 | zecke | mithro: do you like Buda or Pest more? |
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| 18:03.44 | [g2] | how many non NSLU2 devs have write access to the OE repo ? |
| 18:04.00 | [g2] | guesstimate is what I'm looking for |
| 18:04.32 | mithro | zecke: i think i like Pest a little bit more |
| 18:04.45 | clorabit | hello |
| 18:05.21 | clorabit | where i find info starting with open embedded |
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| 18:05.36 | clorabit | where i can find info starting with open embedded |
| 18:05.50 | zecke | clorabit: oe.handhelds.org? |
| 18:06.22 | mithro | I'm trying to figure out where to go next |
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| 18:08.35 | mithro | my choices are Zagreb, Ljubljana or Belgrade |
| 18:08.41 | clorabit | zecke, where i can look OE tree for online trough html ? |
| 18:09.50 | zecke | clorabit: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev |
| 18:10.32 | zecke | mithro: I have not traveled to any of these cities yet :( |
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| 18:18.47 | mithro | Zagreb is a 5.5 hour journey, Sarajevo is a 12 hour (overnight) journey, Belgrade is a 7 hour journey |
| 18:20.42 | mithro | anyone know what a Schnellzug means? |
| 18:20.54 | hwtechnik | fast train |
| 18:21.38 | hwtechnik | doesnīt stop in all stations and is therefore faster at your destination |
| 18:21.41 | mithro | ahh |
| 18:22.00 | mithro | it's still pretty slow :P |
| 18:22.22 | hwtechnik | well. there is always a faster type of Schnellzug |
| 18:22.52 | mithro | EC's are faster |
| 18:23.22 | clorabit | zecke, have u tried run dgen ? |
| 18:23.39 | zecke | clorabit: no what is that? |
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| 18:25.36 | clorabit | dgen is sega genesis emulator |
| 18:28.06 | clorabit | zecke, do u have experience compiling with crosstool ? |
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| 18:31.16 | zecke | clorabit: no it does not work on OS X (crosstools) |
| 18:31.38 | mithro | what is athens in german? |
| 18:32.35 | hwtechnik | Athen |
| 18:32.45 | clorabit | zecke, do u know anyone expert with crosstool ? |
| 18:33.26 | mithro | what is Greece in German? |
| 18:33.45 | hwtechnik | mithro: Griechenland |
| 18:34.03 | hwtechnik | mithro: or do you mean the language? |
| 18:34.06 | mithro | whats Wurzburg ? |
| 18:34.15 | hwtechnik | mithro: dunno |
| 18:34.31 | hwtechnik | mithro: where is that? |
| 18:34.35 | mithro | db.de can't figure out what I mean when I try in "Athen" or "Athens" |
| 18:34.41 | mithro | http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?ld=212.60&seqnr=1&ident=8a.02996018.1137089995&OK#focus |
| 18:34.57 | hwtechnik | mithro: just a sec |
| 18:35.18 | mithro | Trying to go from Istanbul to Athens |
| 18:36.02 | cvs_ | athen |
| 18:36.18 | cvs_ | should work |
| 18:36.23 | hwtechnik | mithro: how do you change start and destination? |
| 18:37.50 | mithro | hit the change button? |
| 18:38.16 | mithro | http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?ld=212.60&seqnr=8&ident=6k.02747718.1137089744&OK#focus |
| 18:38.19 | mithro | try that one |
| 18:38.51 | hwtechnik | mithro: seems that this is only possible through germany. so you must choose a point in germany and from thereon get to Athene. |
| 18:39.21 | Luke-Jr | [g2]: my guess would be all of them |
| 18:39.27 | mithro | hrm.... |
| 18:39.36 | mithro | I know you can go Istanbul -> Athens |
| 18:40.46 | hwtechnik | yeah. but not from that site. itīs supposed to be for travelers coming from or going to germany. |
| 18:41.08 | mithro | hwtechnik: i've used it for every other trip |
| 18:41.29 | mithro | ie Zagreb -> Belgrade etc |
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| 18:42.39 | hwtechnik | hmm... obviously it doesnīt know Athen |
| 18:42.55 | mithro | try Frankfurt -> Athens? |
| 18:44.30 | hwtechnik | I always get back Würzburg |
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| 18:45.16 | mithro | I wonder what that is |
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| 18:45.53 | mithro | both the Greece and Turkey rail lines websites are borked |
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| 18:46.40 | mithro | welp it nows about Thessaloniki |
| 18:47.13 | hwtechnik | funny. wait, trying to figure that one out. |
| 18:50.13 | clorabit | cu all |
| 18:50.20 | jbowler | RP: with bitbake -r7 I've got the behaviour again whereby slugos-image.bb RDEPENDS don't get build , but IPKG_INSTALL = "${RDEPENDS}" does have the correct packages, however only for BE builds... |
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| 18:56.58 | hwtechnik | mithro: check this out: http://www.ose.gr/%287216627309326357%29/ecPage.asp?page=dromologia.asp&lang=2 |
| 18:58.11 | hwtechnik | mithro: even the greece site says: There is not direct line |
| 18:59.12 | hwtechnik | mithro: oh, and donīt forget, they call it Athina. |
| 18:59.55 | hwtechnik | mithro: I tried it with the Austrian Railway too, and they donīt know Athene as well. |
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| 19:04.49 | Luke-Jr | interactive bitbake dies if it has a parse error on a bb |
| 19:04.55 | Luke-Jr | well, a bbclass anyway |
| 19:06.56 | zecke | Luke-Jr: it really dies? |
| 19:09.45 | Luke-Jr | zecke: drops to bash |
| 19:09.54 | Luke-Jr | zecke: after dumping error msgs |
| 19:10.15 | zecke | Luke-Jr: okay |
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| 19:11.49 | Laibsch | !archive |
| 19:11.50 | cdbot | Laibsch: Don't know, don't care |
| 19:12.02 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 19:12.47 | Laibsch | !log |
| 19:13.23 | Laibsch | !logs |
| 19:13.24 | cdbot | Laibsch: Dunno? |
| 19:13.38 | Laibsch | Is there an archive somewhere? I don't want to ask the same question I got answered a couple of months ago but I do not have access to my personal logs right now. |
| 19:15.43 | mithro | hwtechnik: it turns out there is a direct line |
| 19:15.51 | mithro | http://www.seat61.com/Turkey2.htm#Turkey%20-%20Greece |
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| 19:16.22 | zecke | Laibsch: ibot.rikers.org IIRC |
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| 19:17.04 | hwtechnik | mithro: funny. maybee all the train-railways havenīt updated their websites? |
| 19:17.16 | mithro | hwtechnik: it could be a private line |
| 19:17.23 | mithro | db.de only has "national" lines |
| 19:18.06 | hwtechnik | mitro: true. but this sentence "As from July 2005" ? Iīm not sure ;) |
| 19:18.27 | mithro | true |
| 19:19.53 | hwtechnik | mithro: I could phone them :) |
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| 19:22.23 | rwhitby | [g2]: have a look in the .monotone/monotonerc on nudi - that has all the OE devs that currently have write access. Koen mailed out a list of all who *used* to have write access last week I think. |
| 19:24.27 | Laibsch | zecke: yes, that is the one. Thank you. |
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| 19:27.00 | mithro | currently I'm thinking along these lines |
| 19:27.15 | CoreDump|work | koen|away: Could you please re-enable write access to the mt db for coredump@handhelds.org? |
| 19:27.57 | mithro | http://pastebin.com/502782 |
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| 19:29.07 | mithro | I guess i could cut out Zagreb - having some more days to play with in Athens/Istanbul might be nicer |
| 19:30.11 | zekoZeko | I'm having problems with bitbake, if someone could help me... |
| 19:30.30 | zecke | zekoZeko: if you ask a question, maybe ;) |
| 19:30.32 | zekoZeko | i've done everything according to gettingstarted page on the wiki |
| 19:30.44 | zekoZeko | zecke: of course, that was my introduction only :) |
| 19:31.15 | zecke | zekoZeko: you don't need one ;) Just one rule. If you post error messages and they are longer than two lines consider using pastebin |
| 19:31.23 | zekoZeko | i copied local.conf.sample to build/conf/local.conf, and set BBFILES correctly. |
| 19:31.26 | Luke-Jr | zecke: only consider? |
| 19:31.38 | zecke | Luke-Jr: that is a turing test ;) |
| 19:31.40 | mithro | zecke: what do you think? |
| 19:31.42 | Luke-Jr | zekoZeko: and DISTRO, MACHINE, etc, I hope? |
| 19:31.52 | zekoZeko | of course. |
| 19:31.55 | Luke-Jr | zecke: I don't know turing o.o |
| 19:31.58 | zekoZeko | but this is what i get: |
| 19:32.18 | zekoZeko | ERROR: no files to build. |
| 19:32.25 | zecke | mithro: Zagreb? Nice town, historical. How is the climate in the winter? |
| 19:32.25 | zekoZeko | for bitbake task-bootstrap |
| 19:32.56 | zecke | zekoZeko: did you set bbpath? |
| 19:33.04 | zekoZeko | Zagreb is not too cold now, around 0 in the morning, a few degrees above during the day. |
| 19:33.09 | zekoZeko | yes |
| 19:33.28 | Luke-Jr | zekoZeko: what are you trying to build? |
| 19:33.37 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 19:33.39 | ibot | rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca |
| 19:33.40 | zekoZeko | Luke-Jr: i'm trying to create a firmware for soekris 4826 |
| 19:33.55 | zekoZeko | i'll paste it right now, just a sec |
| 19:33.56 | Luke-Jr | zekoZeko: yes, but what providee are you building for it? |
| 19:34.05 | zecke | zekoZeko: could you do env, pwd, and put the output of bitbake task-bootstrap to pastebin? |
| 19:34.20 | zecke | Luke-Jr: as he said ;) |
| 19:34.43 | Luke-Jr | ah, missed that line, sorry |
| 19:35.04 | jbowler | RP: here's the bug (it's in bitbake I think), slugos-image.bb PROVIDES "${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image" which, for DISTRO="ucslugc" is ucslugc-image, if I bitbake ucslugc-image the RDEPENDS are not build, if I bitbake slugos-image they are. |
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| 19:35.20 | mithro | zecke: i've got no idea - but I'm assuming it would be slightly better then here in Budapest |
| 19:35.44 | mithro | the problem is going to be getting a reservation on the early train tommorrow |
| 19:36.43 | zecke | mithro: I would have chosen between Sarajevo and Zagreb |
| 19:37.23 | mithro | zecke: and skip belgrade? |
| 19:37.45 | zecke | mithro: no, I just know too little about belgrade ;) |
| 19:38.02 | zecke | unbelievable the iron curtain is in my mind :( |
| 19:38.09 | zekoZeko | zecke: http://pastebin.com/502796 |
| 19:38.41 | zecke | mithro: all cities must have this kind of post-war spirit |
| 19:38.53 | zecke | mithro: progressing into a new age/epoch |
| 19:39.14 | zekoZeko | Sarajevo is the coldest of all, in case you were wondering :) |
| 19:39.27 | zekoZeko | I live in Ljubljana and I've been to all of these places :) |
| 19:39.28 | mithro | the trip from Zagreb/Sarajevo -> Sofia sucks however :P |
| 19:39.37 | mithro | zekoZeko: recomendations? |
| 19:40.11 | zecke | zekoZeko: it does not load your local.conf ;) |
| 19:40.27 | Luke-Jr | zekoZeko: I don't see a DISTRO set ;) |
| 19:40.48 | zecke | zekoZeko: it is not able to find it. Your BBPATH would be guilty but it looks correctly |
| 19:41.19 | Luke-Jr | where is local.conf? |
| 19:41.19 | zekoZeko | I did another step that is not in the GettingStarted |
| 19:41.28 | zekoZeko | I copied bitbake.conf to build/conf/bitbake.conf |
| 19:41.35 | Luke-Jr | ..... |
| 19:41.38 | zekoZeko | otherwise it spat another error at me, I con't remember which |
| 19:41.51 | zekoZeko | can't |
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| 19:42.08 | zecke | zekoZeko: rm conf/bitbake.conf ;) |
| 19:42.16 | zecke | zekoZeko: it shadows your error only |
| 19:42.20 | zekoZeko | i see |
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| 19:42.47 | mithro | choices choices |
| 19:42.57 | zekoZeko | ooh |
| 19:43.05 | zekoZeko | and now it works |
| 19:43.10 | zekoZeko | stupid me |
| 19:43.15 | Luke-Jr | XD |
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| 19:43.22 | zekoZeko | at least it's parsing the *.bb files now. |
| 19:43.27 | zecke | jbowler: are you using RP's latest patches? |
| 19:43.39 | zekoZeko | mithro: Sarajevo is the nicest to see of them all I think |
| 19:43.49 | zekoZeko | mithro: the most ecclectic, although less so after the war |
| 19:44.05 | zekoZeko | mithro: and the "spirit of the war" that you were talking about is most present there |
| 19:44.29 | zekoZeko | actually, none of the ex-yu capitols has been hit by the war nearly as much as Sarajevo has. |
| 19:44.49 | Laibsch | Are packages being uncompressed into ./tmp/work/ or somewhere else? |
| 19:45.10 | zecke | Laibsch: uncompressed in what form? |
| 19:45.36 | zecke | Laibsch: they are placed in the deploy dir e.g tmp/deploy/ipk |
| 19:46.52 | mithro | zekoZeko: Sarajevo sounds cool, however it's the furthest out of my way and I'm already running out of time... |
| 19:47.08 | mithro | so the questions are, should I goto or skip either Zagreb and/or Belgrade |
| 19:47.21 | zekoZeko | mithro: where are you and where are you going? |
| 19:47.45 | zekoZeko | mithro: of those two, I'd say skip Zagreb. |
| 19:48.52 | mithro | I've been to Prague, Budapest, Vienna, Krakow, so it places are similar to them then I can skip em |
| 19:49.18 | zekoZeko | yeah, go to belgrade |
| 19:49.50 | mithro | means I don't have to get up so early too ;) |
| 19:50.35 | mithro | been to Istanbul? I think that city might (hopefully) be diffrent to all the Braque stuff I've seen already |
| 19:50.46 | zekoZeko | no, not yet |
| 19:51.04 | zekoZeko | It's supposed to be nice. |
| 19:51.22 | zekoZeko | just don't hang out with any birds :) |
| 19:51.33 | mithro | birds? |
| 19:51.42 | zecke | mithro: bird flu broke out in turkey ;) |
| 19:51.52 | mithro | I think I'll head to Belgrade tommorrow then |
| 19:51.57 | zecke | mithro: i think 16 people already died |
| 19:52.12 | zekoZeko | yesterday it was something like 5, but I wasn't watching the news today. |
| 19:52.48 | zecke | okay then at least some people died ;) |
| 19:53.01 | mithro | I saw that on the news a few days ago |
| 19:53.04 | hwtechnik | mithro: Youīve been here (Vienna) ? Damn. |
| 19:53.39 | Laibsch | zecke: I meant into what dir is source code decompressed before compilation. I found a different way to get to a solution of the real problem I had. |
| 19:53.59 | zekoZeko | mithro: If you decide not going to Turkey, you might still consider Sarajevo, Mostar and Dubrovnik. |
| 19:54.05 | zecke | Laibsch: what ever dir you configure ;) |
| 19:54.36 | mithro | hwtechnik: yeah about 6 months ago |
| 19:55.00 | zekoZeko | mithro: adriatic is quite warm now, you might get +10C there if the weather is any good. |
| 19:55.06 | hwtechnik | mithro: Uh.Oh. Thatīs a while ago :) |
| 19:55.57 | mithro | welp, I'm getting kicked out |
| 19:56.02 | mithro | this place closes in 5 minutes |
| 19:56.27 | hwtechnik | mithro: lol. have a nice trip. |
| 19:56.37 | zekoZeko | have a good time, wherever the path takes you :) |
| 19:57.48 | mithro | see ya people! |
| 19:57.53 | zekoZeko | ok, gotta bathe the kid... bbl. |
| 19:59.10 | Laibsch | I have read http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/bb_20file?action=highlight&value=cvs but I am not a CVS guru. Would somebody be kind enough to tell me what the SRC_URI line should look like for checking out something like this: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/gakusei co -P nunome |
| 19:59.43 | Laibsch | SRC_URI = "cvs.sourceforge.net;module=nunome;tag=$TAG;method=$METHOD" |
| 19:59.52 | Laibsch | But what are tag and method? |
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| 20:00.18 | Laibsch | How do I specify the project, in this case gakusei? |
| 20:00.25 | pb_ | If you don't want a tag, you can omit it. |
| 20:00.36 | Laibsch | OK |
| 20:00.39 | pb_ | For the example you mentioned, you need method=pserver |
| 20:02.08 | Laibsch | pb_: Thanks a lot. But SRC_URI = "cvs.sourceforge.net;module=nunome;method=pserver" does not quite look like it has got all the required information. |
| 20:02.15 | pH5 | SRC_URI="cvs://anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/gakusei;module=nunome;method=pserver" |
| 20:02.38 | pb_ | right, what ph5 said |
| 20:05.00 | Laibsch | cool, thanks guys. |
| 20:05.32 | gremlin[it] | hi to all :) |
| 20:05.38 | pH5 | hi gremlin[it] |
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| 20:05.44 | pb_ | hi gremlin[it] |
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| 20:06.02 | gremlin[it] | monotone.vanilla.de is down ? |
| 20:06.09 | gremlin[it] | hi pH5, pb_ :) |
| 20:06.10 | pH5 | gremlin[it]: as usual |
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| 20:07.49 | hwtechnik | RP: Wouldnīt it be good to have 2 seperate collie.conf files to include into the existing one, depending on the kernel choosen? |
| 20:08.23 | hwtechnik | RP: Or am I talking to the wrong one here? |
| 20:09.14 | hwtechnik | RP: wrong person, I mean. |
| 20:14.06 | Luke-Jr | grr |
| 20:14.11 | Luke-Jr | BASH syntax isn't valid in OE? |
| 20:14.49 | Luke-Jr | ${PN/-native//} would be nice |
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| 20:19.15 | Laibsch | Luke-Jr: Maybe you want to have a look at http://pfaffe3.dyndns.org/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/nunome/nunome_1.0.bb and see if we can get it to compile? |
| 20:19.15 | Laibsch | http://www.google.de/search?hs=Q3m&hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=+site%3Apurl.rikers.org+nunome+laibsch+mickeyl&btnG=Search lists some of the previous discussions about problems I had. |
| 20:19.24 | jbowler | zecke: I'm using the -r7 patch |
| 20:19.33 | CoreDump|work | hwtechnik: well, when I last checked (a few month back) they were doing some magic in $DISTRO.conf which selects certain ipk's depending on kernel type (2.4 / 2.6) |
| 20:19.46 | CoreDump|work | worked perfecty well =) |
| 20:20.56 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Thanks again for your info :) Iīm trying to get a 2.6 to get to build and work right now. |
| 20:21.38 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: After that I will try to get Pavels-git tree to compile and from there on I shall see... |
| 20:22.08 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Kinda step by step approach... A little slow, I admit. |
| 20:22.22 | CoreDump|work | sounds interesting. Didn't hear about anyone trying 2.6 on Collie for some time. |
| 20:23.18 | CoreDump|work | The required adjustments to the root image weren't that complicated. IIRC they had to use different modutils or some such. |
| 20:23.19 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Well I tried to start 3 weeks ago. So it wasnīt really a kickstart :) |
| 20:23.36 | CoreDump|work | hehe =) |
| 20:23.56 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Oh. So there are gotchas. Well I will resolve them step by step anyway. |
| 20:24.29 | CoreDump|work | I'm suprised that the original code is gone regarding 2.4 / 2.6 adjustments. |
| 20:24.34 | zekoZeko | cp: cannot stat `/mnt/old/b-old/tmp/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.28/uClibc.config': No such file or directory |
| 20:24.53 | zekoZeko | should that be packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.28/i386/uClibc.config ? |
| 20:28.32 | zecke | zekoZeko: no |
| 20:28.49 | zecke | zekoZeko: 'i386/uClibc.config' would be used if TARGET_ARCH is i386 |
| 20:28.58 | zecke | zekoZeko: this is the OVERRIDES system of bitbake |
| 20:29.07 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: well it isnīt exactly gone. But I made an error following the Wiki. Had the crosscompiler installed. |
| 20:30.26 | zekoZeko | zecke: my TARGET_ARCH is i486, so I guess that is why it's failing (there's no i486 dir in there). What could I do? |
| 20:31.13 | hwtechnik | CoreDump: Right now Iīm slowly trying to understand the BB-build process step by step. From that I will try my own BB file. |
| 20:33.32 | CoreDump|work | right, but It might be a good idea to just steal current .bb files and adjust them to your liking =) Replacing kernel 2.4 w/ 2.6 and correcting the module dependencies should be quite doable |
| 20:33.55 | CoreDump|work | bbl |
| 20:34.29 | zecke | zekoZeko: create one ;) |
| 20:34.36 | zecke | zekoZeko: and copy the file |
| 20:37.33 | zekoZeko | should I change anything in uClibc.config? I think it would make sense, looking at it, but I'm not familiar with it... |
| 20:38.35 | zecke | zekoZeko: you can start with the i486 one |
| 20:38.35 | zekoZeko | apparently not.. the i686 one looks the same :) |
| 20:38.50 | zecke | zekoZeko: and then you can do make menuconfig in the uclibc dir ;) |
| 20:39.44 | zekoZeko | I'll do that later, thanks. Now I just wanna make something bootable on the Soekris board as soon as possible, to start playing with it :) |
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| 21:15.47 | zecke | RP: ping |
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| 21:35.59 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 21:36.16 | pH5 | hi Pigi |
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| 21:36.39 | gremlin[it] | ciao Pigi |
| 21:36.58 | Pigi | ciao gremlin[it] |
| 21:37.08 | Pigi | Hi pH5 ! |
| 21:37.55 | zecke | NOTE: package pkgconfig-native-0.15.0-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 21:37.56 | zecke | NOTE: package pkgconfig-native-0.15.0: completed |
| 21:37.58 | zecke | hmm |
| 21:39.59 | pb_ | zecke: can you repeat the trick with 0.20? |
| 21:40.10 | pb_ | hi pigi |
| 21:40.18 | Pigi | hi pb_ ! |
| 21:40.22 | Pigi | everithing ok ? |
| 21:40.30 | zecke | pb_: I have deleted my 0.20 copy, but let me try |
| 21:40.36 | pb_ | Pigi: yep, pretty good |
| 21:40.41 | pb_ | zecke: thanks |
| 21:40.51 | Pigi | cool. |
| 21:41.04 | Pigi | did some one had the time to test the new ipkg revision ? |
| 21:41.49 | RP | zecke: pong |
| 21:42.00 | zecke | RP: will you be around another hour? |
| 21:42.10 | RP | zecke: Yes, I'm here for a while now |
| 21:42.35 | RP | zecke: Got called away earlier and ended up 20 miles away unexpectedly :) |
| 21:42.39 | pb_ | Pigi: not me, sorry |
| 21:42.52 | Pigi | np, It was just to know. |
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| 21:43.00 | zecke | RP: hehe |
| 21:43.13 | zecke | RP: I need to a) compile qemu, b) compile pkg-config |
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| 21:45.57 | RP | jbowler-away: Did you get any further with this image problem you're seeing? I don't think I fully understand why the problem is occuring yet... |
| 21:47.48 | RP | jbowler-away: Ah, I understand. Its not bitbake's fault :) |
| 21:49.14 | RP | jbowler-away: When you build ucslugc-image, it has no RDEPENDS. Only slugos-image has RDEPENDS. If you add RDEPENDS_ucslugc-image = RDEPENDS to the image .bb, I think it will work |
| 21:55.34 | RP | jbowler-away: The other alternative would be to set PACKAGES ="${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image" but this might cause issues trying to package an image :) |
| 21:56.01 | RP | I'm beginning to think we need a different way to inhibit package generation... |
| 21:57.27 | RP | At the moment, PACKAGES="" means you can't RPROVIDE anything... |
| 21:58.58 | RP | jbowler-away: actually, RPROVIDES = "${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image" might help. |
| 21:59.25 | RP | I'd be interested to see the debug logs from the failed image generation in a dry run mode (bitbake -D -D -n) |
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| 22:01.00 | Pigi | I'm toot tired . Nite all |
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| 22:05.13 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 22:06.06 | jbowler | RP: having build slugos-image in both of the problem builds I can't repro the failure, but I'll try for the symptom with bitbake -v openslug-image (I know when this is wrong because it doesn't output stuff about the RDEPENDS) |
| 22:09.09 | RP | jbowler: If doing a dry run, it won't matter if you've already built things |
| 22:09.50 | RP | jbowler: See my comments above - this is all about the file being called one thing but providing something else. As far as bitbake is concerned, you only renamed the build time name, not the run time one |
| 22:10.19 | RP | If it did package, it would always be called slugos-image |
| 22:10.34 | RP | Therefore the RDEPENDS only apply to slugos-image |
| 22:11.30 | RP | hi reenoo_ |
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| 22:19.39 | jbowler | RP: That log output is 1873 lines and it seems to be too big for pastebin.ca |
| 22:20.18 | jbowler | Nope, pasted it into the description... trying again ;-) |
| 22:21.02 | jbowler | RP: http://pastebin.ca/36634 |
| 22:21.44 | jbowler | And I'll try with the RPROVIDES, since that seems more natural to me. |
| 22:23.33 | RP | jbowler: The last line is the key one: "DEBUG: Additional runtime dependencies for openslug-image are:" |
| 22:23.57 | RP | There is no package called openslug-image so it can't find any dependencies |
| 22:24.34 | reenoo_ | hey RP |
| 22:25.27 | zecke | RP: okay what to apply now to bitbake |
| 22:25.52 | RP | zecke: Is the runtime patch applied? |
| 22:26.12 | zecke | RP: at least not -r7 |
| 22:26.20 | jbowler | RP: I guess I want openslug-image to be virtual |
| 22:26.38 | jbowler | The RPROVIDES makes no difference. |
| 22:26.38 | RP | zecke: ok :) |
| 22:27.37 | RP | jbowler: That might or might not be called a bug :-/ |
| 22:27.56 | jbowler | What, me wanting it or it not working? |
| 22:28.07 | RP | jbowler: It not working... |
| 22:28.40 | jbowler | I wonder what might happen if I put in a PREFERRED_PROVIDER_${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME} = "slugos-image" |
| 22:28.54 | jbowler | Rather: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image = "slugos-image" |
| 22:29.25 | RP | jbowler: that makes no sense. The problem is in the runtime namespace, not the buildtime one |
| 22:29.32 | jbowler | k |
| 22:30.39 | RP | RDEPENDS_${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image = "${RDEPENDS}" would make more sense perhaps, if bitbake will parse that :) |
| 22:31.15 | RP | but even that is going to fail |
| 22:31.23 | RP | $SLUGOS_IMAGENAME isn't in PACKAGES |
| 22:32.13 | jbowler | Yes, RDEPENDS_openslug-image fails too... So I will add PACKAGES += "openslug-image", that's fine, we don't mind having a package for it. |
| 22:33.10 | RP | jbowler: The other solution is create a openslug-image.bb and have "include slugos-image.bb" in it |
| 22:33.12 | jbowler | Anyway, it will be empty. |
| 22:34.51 | jbowler | RP: that's what we had before, it would result in a proliferation of packages/meta/nslu2-poo-image.bb files - we have a lot of DISTROs (and we don't care about the .ipk from slugos-image because the real result is in deploy/images) |
| 22:35.21 | jbowler | We can't actually install a slugos-image ipk |
| 22:36.14 | RP | jbowler: ok, I think this is probably the best solution. I'm beginning to think we need an INHIBIT_PACKAGING flag instead of setting PACKAGES="" anyway (think of the problems in native.bbclass) |
| 22:36.31 | zecke | *cry* arm-user only works on linux |
| 22:36.39 | RP | You might have to set PACKAGES after you inherit image_ipk |
| 22:37.04 | zecke | RP: any changes to your patch? otherwise I will apply and commit it now |
| 22:37.32 | RP | zecke: I think the patch is standing up to testing ok, so it can be applied |
| 22:37.52 | RP | We have odd little issues but nothing that makes me think its doing anything wrong :) |
| 22:38.36 | zecke | RP: r5 is the latest? or should I get it off from sam? |
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| 22:38.48 | RP | zecke: you want -r7 from tim |
| 22:38.57 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r7.patch |
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| 22:39.27 | zecke | RP: that one looks almost perfect ;) |
| 22:39.31 | rwhitby-web | koen|away: please re-enable monotone write access for mgoebl@openembedded.org |
| 22:39.34 | zecke | only a doctest for explode_deps is missing |
| 22:40.01 | RP | zecke: I have no experience with doctests |
| 22:40.17 | zecke | RP: could you do a rediff please? the lib/bb/shell.py bit was applied this afternoon :} |
| 22:40.34 | zecke | (only if it is an easy svn diff call) |
| 22:41.11 | jbowler | Oops, yes, rootfs_ipk.bbclass... still no joy. It really only works if slugos-image itself is the build target. |
| 22:41.45 | RP | zecke: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r8.patch |
| 22:41.48 | zecke | + if not self.addRunDeps(p, item , buildAllDeps): |
| 22:41.48 | zecke | + return False |
| 22:41.48 | zecke | + return True |
| 22:42.08 | zecke | why not a simple return self.addRunDeps (no request for change though) |
| 22:43.00 | RP | zecke: I think I borrowed that code from the call inside a while loop :) |
| 22:43.16 | RP | zecke: it can be simplified in that case (I can rediff easily again if you like) |
| 22:44.07 | zecke | no no this is something for later |
| 22:44.18 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r9.patch |
| 22:44.19 | RP | :) |
| 22:44.22 | zecke | RP: argh r8 has a conflict now |
| 22:44.42 | RP | oops :-/ |
| 22:44.43 | zecke | I've used other parenthesis :} |
| 22:45.55 | CosmicPenguin | err yeah |
| 22:45.58 | CosmicPenguin | you know what I mean |
| 22:46.15 | RP | ok, http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r10.patch |
| 22:47.48 | zecke | http://pastebin.com/503174 |
| 22:48.07 | RP | zecke: it has a bug in the change I just made - I left the colon in :-. |
| 22:48.10 | zecke | for my relocation of bb.*codeurl to bb.fetch (only base.bbclass in OE needs to change) |
| 22:49.01 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake-rproviders-r11.patch :-/ |
| 22:50.05 | zecke | http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/ <- spotted by woglinde |
| 22:50.08 | zecke | svn revert * |
| 22:51.07 | Crofton | Chuck Norris responds: http://www.chucknorris.com/html/events.aspx |
| 22:51.07 | RP | sorry :-/. |
| 22:52.18 | zecke | now it is my time to screw things up |
| 22:52.33 | pH5 | zecke: go for it |
| 22:55.07 | RP | zecke: Your patch looks good to me |
| 22:55.29 | RP | once applied, I can tweak the git fetcher to use some of this |
| 22:58.09 | zecke | RP: there is one issue. First I want to put the SRCDATE and 'now' handling into the parameters one gets from decodeurl |
| 22:58.35 | zecke | that looks right to me. One down side is, if the package is set to 'now' and the package is build |
| 22:58.56 | zecke | sources will always be fetched, regardless of if they will be copied to the work dir... |
| 22:59.27 | zecke | RP: but the goal is to move the 'MIRROR' handling to Fetch, running of commands as well |
| 22:59.36 | RP | zecke: Also, what happens if a user includes a srcdate= in their url? |
| 22:59.59 | zecke | RP: with the current patch, it gets overwritten |
| 23:00.23 | RP | zecke: I know. I'm wondering if that should be the correct behaviour |
| 23:01.07 | RP | If a package is built, I'm let to wonder if the fetcher should be being called? |
| 23:01.42 | RP | s/let/left/ |
| 23:01.49 | zecke | RP: well base.bbclass turns off stamping |
| 23:02.10 | RP | zecke: but should it? |
| 23:02.27 | zecke | probably not |
| 23:03.04 | RP | zecke: I'd also say not. |
| 23:03.16 | RP | I'll ask on oe@ about that perhaps |
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| 23:03.50 | RP | I like the idea of being able to set "now" as the date and then being able to control it via a stamp |
| 23:04.08 | RP | if i want a source refresh, I rm the stamp... |
| 23:04.19 | zecke | RP: -cfetch -f ;) |
| 23:04.29 | RP | zecke: well, yes :) |
| 23:04.37 | jbowler | RP: http://pastebin.ca/36636 works |
| 23:06.08 | jbowler | (With PROVIDES removed from slugos-image.bb) |
| 23:06.15 | RP | jbowler: Actually, can you get away with setting PN in the slugos-image.bb? |
| 23:06.19 | pH5 | is there a reason that kernel.bbclass doesn't stage the files in include/sound? |
| 23:06.37 | pb_ | just an oversight, I think |
| 23:06.45 | jbowler | RP: well, bitbake built it fine, PN just gets defaulted from the file name doesn't it? |
| 23:07.21 | RP | jbowler: Yes, but you're free to override it |
| 23:07.23 | zecke | pb_: do you know why stamping of fetch is turned off? It has to do with the .md5 thing but how remains unclear to me |
| 23:08.02 | jbowler | RP: sorry, I misread your question. No, both slugos-image and openslug-image are used in different contexts. |
| 23:08.28 | RP | jbowler: In the same build? |
| 23:08.31 | jbowler | We could fix that, since openslug-image comes from outside OE (from the 'master makefile'), but that would cause user confusion. |
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| 23:08.43 | pb_ | zecke: no reason I can think of offhand. might just have been disabled because it isn't much use: you can always tell whether the fetch has happened by the presence of the .md5 file, so an extra stamp would be redundant. |
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| 23:09.01 | jbowler | RP: no, nothing in OE should be depending on 'openslug-image' - only on slugos-image, I'll check but I'm pretty sure I cleaned that up. |
| 23:09.09 | pb_ | zecke: does the lack of stamping for fetch displease you? |
| 23:09.24 | RP | jbowler: I think we're talking cross purposes here |
| 23:09.43 | RP | jbowler: I'm asking if you could set PN = "${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image" in slugos-image.bb? |
| 23:10.35 | RP | jbowler: bitbake looks for RDEPENDS beloging to ${PN} so it might be enough to make things work |
| 23:10.39 | jbowler | I'm saying 'openslug-image' can only come because someone typed it to a bitbake command, but 'slugos-image' is a DEPENDS of slugos-packages.bb, so while only one is ever required I don't know which. |
| 23:11.23 | jbowler | I.e bitbake slugos-packages will builds slugos-image, but bitbake openslug-image is also (currently) valid. |
| 23:11.53 | RP | How does SLUGOS_IMAGENAME get set? |
| 23:12.10 | jbowler | In conf/distro/... |
| 23:13.10 | jbowler | By default to DISTRO in conf/distro/slugos.conf (which probably should be in conf/distro/include...) |
| 23:13.18 | RP | So you can build openslug-image whilst SLUGOS_IMAGENAME is set to slugos? |
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| 23:13.59 | jbowler | Well, you can try, but it won't find a provider... |
| 23:14.29 | pH5 | pb_: thanks. the btsco kernel module needs those. |
| 23:14.38 | RP | I can't see how setting PN = as above can cause a problem then? |
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| 23:15.33 | RP | pb_: I think when cvs is considered, having the stamp might be useful |
| 23:15.40 | pb_ | RP: why? |
| 23:16.06 | jbowler | RP: If I do that then try "bitbake slugos-packages" I get: |
| 23:16.08 | jbowler | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency slugos-image |
| 23:16.08 | jbowler | ERROR: dependency slugos-image (for slugos-packages) not satisfied |
| 23:16.33 | jbowler | I want to use "slugos-image" in OE, but I'm provided backward compatibility for the makefile and all the users out there. |
| 23:17.31 | RP | pb_: set srcdate="now", build. when you rebuild it won't get repulled unless you remove the stamp (-c fetch -f). It would provide a convinient way of working with cvs="now" |
| 23:18.12 | RP | jbowler: Your still have the PROVIDES = "${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image" line? |
| 23:18.59 | jbowler | Not in the file I modified - but the PN was ${SLUGOS_IMAGENAME}-image so it would provide it anyway. |
| 23:19.22 | RP | jbowler: Set it to PROVIDES = "slugos-image openslug-image" |
| 23:19.36 | RP | That should be enough to fool it :) |
| 23:19.42 | pb_ | RP: oh, does the fetcher understand "now"? |
| 23:19.48 | zecke | pb_: as RP said, with SRCDATE="now" you would fetch source over and over again just to create tar.gz's that will never be used |
| 23:19.53 | RP | pb_: We're about to patch it to understand that |
| 23:20.07 | jbowler | Yes, but then when bitbake builds slugos-image it will still have the RDEPENDS problem - just it will now be for slugos-image... |
| 23:20.47 | RP | jbowler: Maybe not as I think if the PN is set as above, it should get the RDEPENDS right |
| 23:20.49 | jbowler | slugos-imagename.bb on the other hand is always going to work, since it looks just like slugos-packages.bb (i.e. it DEPENDS on slugos-image), so if it doesn't work neither will slugos-packages. |
| 23:20.54 | RP | jbowler: I might be wrong mind... |
| 23:20.58 | pb_ | zecke: mm, I am not entirely convinced that this "now" thing is good news. What is the use case for that? |
| 23:21.38 | pb_ | or, to put it another way, what does "now" buy you compared to ${DATETIME}? |
| 23:22.03 | zecke | pb_: ever wanted to check out the HEAD/trunk version of your software package? |
| 23:22.12 | RP | pb_: Picture working on some package from a scm. You run bitbake, it checks it out and breaks. You update the scm, you rerun bitbake and you'd like it to use the new changes |
| 23:22.13 | zecke | setting CVSADATE="now" did work exactly once |
| 23:22.42 | zecke | it creates a cvs_foo_now.tar.gz ;) |
| 23:24.13 | pb_ | zecke: and you can't wait until the next minute when ${DATETIME} would change? I guess the pace of opie development must be faster than I thought. |
| 23:25.02 | zecke | pb_: well you will then have thousands of thousands src tarballs then? |
| 23:25.31 | pb_ | yeah. is that a big hardship? |
| 23:25.50 | pb_ | I kind of feel I'd prefer to have thousands of tarballs rather than one tarball whose name stays the same but contents change. |
| 23:26.09 | reenoo_ | zecke: fwiw, SRCDATE=now isn't going to produce pleasant results. PV = 0.0+cvsnow is rather useless |
| 23:27.17 | zecke | pb_: well if you put DATETIME in the $PV as well you will 2*thousands of thousands of dirs |
| 23:27.56 | RP | I think having stamps on fetching would be beneficial - picture the case where your build with some SRCDATE="${DATETIME}" in it fails half way through 50 packages. Restarting the build would be fun... |
| 23:28.26 | pb_ | RP: stamps wouldn't make any difference in that case. |
| 23:29.02 | pb_ | assuming PV is defined in terms of ${SRCDATE}, which it almost always is, the stamps would be invalidated anyway when SRCDATE changes. |
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| 23:29.29 | pb_ | and, if SRCDATE doesn't change, the existing .md5 check will stop the source from being re-fetched anyway. |
| 23:30.07 | RP | yes, the link to PV would cause a problem |
| 23:32.31 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 23:33.13 | Geo_KM | Hi All, can someone please have a look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=399, its been around for ages now, and I tested last week and the prism2 still exibits the problem |
| 23:34.09 | Geo_KM | If we cant get this fixed before LCA I will have to go back to OZ 3.5.3 |
| 23:35.44 | RP | Geo_KM: Sadly, I think only a certain fraction of our developers can reproduce that bug and most of them are away at the moment :-/ |
| 23:37.41 | Geo_KM | RP: Ah! I see. Well if anyone needs me to test it out I am happy to do it. Its just I'm not really a coder/developer so I am not in a pos to actually fix the bug.... Wish I was 8-) |
| 23:39.15 | RP | Geo_KM: The problem is we don't actually have that many coders/developers with that set of hardware and its the kind of problem where on device debugging is often more productive. |
| 23:39.40 | Geo_KM | Is monotone.vanilla.de dead at the moment. It seems to be refusing connections. |
| 23:40.34 | Geo_KM | RP: Yeah I see what you mean. 8-) |
| 23:40.49 | RP | Geo_KM: yes, try one of the others |
| 23:41.00 | Geo_KM | OK thanks |
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| 23:48.52 | zecke | pb_: I had occassions (in development cycles) where this one minute would have been too much |
| 23:49.07 | zecke | and in this case the PV did not contain a time stamp |
| 23:49.39 | zecke | pb_: I recognize the problems that special treatment of now can give, but I find it useful and will construct a use case once I can think again |
| 23:49.49 | pb_ | okay. but, in those cases, presumably you wouldn't have wanted a stamp for do_fetch either. |
| 23:50.55 | zecke | pb_: my personal use is. If I do bitbake -b foo.bb -cfetch I want it to contain the latest revision |
| 23:54.33 | pb_ | zecke: okay |
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| 23:57.06 | zecke | anyway sleep well guys |
| 23:57.26 | zecke | hmm I should have dropped koen a mail |
| 23:57.46 | pb_ | zecke: good night |