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| 00:05.30 | pb_ | zecke: yeah |
| 00:26.39 | reenoo_ | oh, fun. reloading the alsa modules broke devfs again and locked the machine up on suspend |
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| 00:37.08 | woglinde | happy new year all |
| 00:37.14 | zecke | woglinde: happy new year |
| 00:37.27 | Twiun | Happy new year folks! :) |
| 00:38.03 | reenoo_ | happy new year, woglinde |
| 00:38.06 | reenoo_ | happy new year, Twiun |
| 00:38.34 | woglinde | damn it the new year begns wit headaches |
| 00:38.59 | woglinde | by all |
| 00:46.04 | zecke | pb_: should I generate you a monotone key, send it to koen and send you the database? |
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| 01:44.13 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 09:50.00 | bug1 | is there a web interface where i can see the latest bb files ? |
| 09:50.59 | bug1 | i found a problem in setpwc from openslug, want to see if its fixed in oe |
| 09:52.13 | gremlin[it] | i remember something exist with bk i don't know now with monotone |
| 09:52.25 | gremlin[it] | try to look if there is something on the wiki |
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| 09:57.21 | bug1 | i guess i may as well download oe |
| 09:57.54 | Pigi | Happy new Year to all, and 'morning all |
| 09:59.25 | bluelightning | happy new year |
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| 10:47.46 | bug1 | i just created #566 |
| 10:48.03 | bug1 | setpwc needs to be updated |
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| 12:11.21 | zecke | hey |
| 12:11.41 | lrg|home | morning zecke |
| 12:13.24 | lrg|home | zecke: looks like we are the only sober ones :) |
| 12:16.23 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:16.27 | pb_ | morning zecke, lrg |
| 12:16.40 | gremlin[it] | HI !!! |
| 12:17.01 | lrg|home | morning pb_ gremlin[it] |
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| 12:17.45 | lrg|home | anyone have a hangover from last night ? |
| 12:26.06 | gremlin[it] | hangover ? |
| 12:26.30 | zecke | lrg|home: hehe |
| 12:26.32 | lrg|home | gremlin[it]: it means not feeling well after drinking too much alcohol |
| 12:26.51 | lrg|home | ~lart Stella Artois for my headache |
| 12:28.07 | gremlin[it] | hahahah :) ... mhh no i just drink a bottle of wine and few cups of white wine after dinner ;) |
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| 12:35.25 | reenoo_ | morning |
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| 15:14.37 | mickeyl | happy new year |
| 15:14.55 | pb_ | hail mickeyl |
| 15:15.01 | pb_ | happy new year to you |
| 15:15.39 | RP | Happy New Year! |
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| 15:16.58 | florian | hi all |
| 15:17.02 | mickeyl | hi florian |
| 15:17.40 | mreimer | happy new year all |
| 15:17.55 | florian | mickeyl: Thanks for restarting monotone... but i suppose i do something wrong. |
| 15:18.05 | florian | hi mreimer - same to you! |
| 15:18.13 | mreimer | thanks florian |
| 15:19.07 | CIA-2 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9dd1ab5b... 10/packages/gaim/ (files/gtk-deprecated-2.0.0.patch gaim_cvs.bb): gaim-cvs: allow gtk-deprecated |
| 15:21.41 | florian | mickeyl: What does monotone want to tell me: "read from fd 6 (peer monotone.vanille.de) failed, disconnecting"? |
| 15:23.09 | mickeyl | florian: no idea actually. i would need to look into the code to really tell you :) most of the times, this is just an internal server problem - perhaps it has a limited number of concurrent connections or so - simply retrying should work most of the times |
| 15:28.17 | florian | mickeyl: i get exactly the same message from ewi too... |
| 15:28.47 | gremlin[it] | oh oh !! monotone: multiple update candidates |
| 15:28.49 | mickeyl | hmm... firewalled? |
| 15:30.12 | gremlin[it] | i try just now to sync and it connect but i gor a double update definition warning ;( |
| 15:30.28 | florian | mickeyl: unlikely... nilsf is too busy to play with the firewall ;) |
| 15:30.59 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 15:31.07 | mickeyl | which mt version are you using? |
| 15:31.14 | mickeyl | the server runs 0.24 iirc |
| 15:32.03 | florian | 0.24, but i wonder if i checked in anything sine the update. |
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| 15:32.52 | florian | I remember i converted the database quite some days ago, pulling works and i have an external key now an tell it mt. |
| 15:36.04 | mickeyl | ah |
| 15:36.54 | mickeyl | iirc to ensure we don't get the problematic changes from nslu in again, we shut down all keys and readded them on demand |
| 15:37.28 | mickeyl | and koen rebuilt the db |
| 15:37.35 | mickeyl | so it would be better to start with one of his snaps |
| 15:37.50 | mickeyl | instead of your own db which is likely to have the problematic changesets |
| 15:39.19 | florian | that would suck... i checked in a huge ile of changes. |
| 15:41.22 | florian | how can i check if my db includes these problematic bits? |
| 15:41.23 | mickeyl | yeah, i'm afraid there is no other way without compromising the database again though. may koen has a better idea, he's the MT wizard |
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| 15:56.32 | chouimat | happy new year |
| 16:07.47 | florian | chouimat: thanks - same to you. |
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| 18:43.14 | gerwinin | happ new year everybody |
| 18:43.30 | gerwinin | happy new year everybody |
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| 19:16.32 | alan|laptop | to all of OE community, i whish you a happy new year full of joy and good things. Keep going on your wonderfull work, you are all doing a great job. |
| 19:17.15 | mickeyl | thanks alan. to you too! |
| 19:17.32 | alan|laptop | thanks mickeyl ^^ |
| 19:19.51 | alan|laptop | mickeyl: too bad OZ 3.5.4 couldn't be release when you wanted. Let's hope it will be possible soon. |
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| 19:49.11 | reenoo_ | florian: what type of changes did you apply? have you moved files around or removed stuff? |
| 19:50.10 | reenoo_ | florian: otherwise you should be able to export via "montone diff" as long as your local db is still in a working condition |
| 19:55.48 | florian | reenoo_: my local db is okay... but i removed stuff, added stuff and even worse... i have changes in my repository we won't want to have upstream... |
| 19:56.27 | florian | i could sdo several diffs, but i don't know if monotone is able to deal with new files in diffs. |
| 19:57.02 | reenoo_ | new files aren't problematic |
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| 19:57.27 | reenoo_ | neither are renames and deletions but they aren't displayed as part of the diff |
| 19:57.41 | reenoo_ | so you can't import them with patch |
| 19:58.50 | florian | reenoo_: then this might be a solution... but i'd be more lucky if: |
| 19:59.35 | florian | - someone would be able to tell me what this error message really means, even mickeyl just guessed. |
| 19:59.55 | florian | - i'd be able to check if my db actually contains these broken bits. |
| 20:01.43 | reenoo_ | well. your key is not allowed push access on the server unless you've started with a fresh db and informed koen about that. |
| 20:02.01 | reenoo_ | the server will just disconnect you |
| 20:02.18 | reenoo_ | and yes, the error message could use improvement |
| 20:02.45 | florian | reenoo_: hum well... you are the first who knows this. noone told me. |
| 20:03.18 | reenoo_ | Koen sent mail about that to oe@ after the latest monotone blowup |
| 20:04.08 | florian | reenoo_: i asked koen what to do, i installed a new monotone and he told me some command to do some database conversion but not more. |
| 20:04.35 | reenoo_ | well. I, too, had to ask on IRC about the exact upgrade, etc. procedure. |
| 20:05.13 | florian | btw. would i have these broken bits if i don't even have the nslu branch? |
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| 20:05.42 | Pigi | ciao all |
| 20:05.50 | pb_ | hi pigi |
| 20:06.03 | reenoo_ | ciao Pigi |
| 20:06.13 | reenoo_ | florian: dunno. sorry |
| 20:06.22 | Pigi | hi pb_, reenoo_ did you started well the year ? |
| 20:08.22 | reenoo_ | florian: looking at the symptoms I would say, yes, somehow changes from the nslu branch sneaked into .dev and thereby caused the breakage. but koen never reported the actual cause to oe@ so I may be wrong. |
| 20:09.23 | florian | hey Pigi |
| 20:09.40 | reenoo_ | Pigi: overslept quite a bit this morning, but otherwise, yeah, I can't complain, thanks. |
| 20:09.47 | Pigi | hey florian! happy new year ! |
| 20:09.54 | Pigi | reenoo_, fine ! |
| 20:10.24 | reenoo_ | Pigi: and a happy new year btw :) |
| 20:10.35 | Pigi | reenoo_, thx :) |
| 20:10.46 | florian | Pigi: thanks! same to you! |
| 20:11.21 | Pigi | pb_ I have a question around the ipkg. Is is "legal" to have multiple instance of a package in "packages" file ? |
| 20:11.31 | pb_ | Pigi: yeah, it is |
| 20:12.20 | Pigi | gosh! what's giving me trouble recently is that the downgrade option stopped to work from when I have changed the constrain function. |
| 20:12.53 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 20:12.58 | Pigi | basically what's happening is that if there are multiple instance of a package ( for the same arch ) I take always the newest. |
| 20:13.41 | Pigi | then, when asked to downgrade, the function is, more or less, unable to locate this version. |
| 20:14.04 | pb_ | ah, right. |
| 20:14.27 | pb_ | that doesn't sound good. even if Packages only contains one version, the user might supply an .ipk on the command line, and that metadata is effectively merged into ipkg's view of Packages. |
| 20:14.47 | Pigi | right! |
| 20:14.51 | pb_ | so, "ipkg --force-downgrade install busybox_0.01.ipk" would stop working, which would lose. |
| 20:16.15 | Pigi | I know. I have an option or two when the user suppy an ipk "by hand". If the version is lower than the one in Packages, I can easly stop the cycle, |
| 20:16.29 | reenoo_ | fwiw, there have been reports on supplying .ipks on the command not working at all recently |
| 20:16.58 | reenoo_ | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=510 |
| 20:17.07 | Pigi | but if I have in packages a version 0.0.1 and 0.0.3 , and the user supply the 0.0.2 I can get the right version. |
| 20:17.48 | Pigi | reenoo_, right. |
| 20:18.16 | Pigi | I can also "force" ipkg to choice the one supplied by hand, by using a flag, or something like this. |
| 20:18.35 | pb_ | yeah |
| 20:18.43 | Pigi | but I think that ipkg has been pushed really hard to the limits..... |
| 20:18.47 | pb_ | if the user specifies a particular .ipk on the commandline, that's the one that ipkg needs to install. |
| 20:19.11 | reenoo_ | right. I don't see a need for an additional flag |
| 20:19.27 | Pigi | heh. More easy to say than to implement ( in all that hashes in the code :) ) |
| 20:19.28 | gremlin[it] | let's move to rpm *flame coming on left and right* :) :) :) : ) |
| 20:19.48 | Pigi | gremlin[it], feel free to rewrite a working rpm ;) |
| 20:20.14 | reenoo_ | Pigi: well. think of the filename as a flag |
| 20:21.01 | reenoo_ | stat() the file and set flag = 1 if the file exists or something |
| 20:21.33 | Pigi | reenoo_, I know. The real problem is that ipkg __could__ install either ".ipk" and feeds packages from a single command line. |
| 20:21.51 | Pigi | like " ipkg install foo.0.0.0.ipk bar " |
| 20:22.18 | Pigi | obviously foo.0.0.0.ipk is provided by hands, and bar is from feeds. |
| 20:22.22 | reenoo_ | it's a per package property, yeah |
| 20:22.28 | Pigi | yeah |
| 20:35.57 | Pigi | I know it is OT, but someone of you have never played with synce ? |
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| 20:51.42 | Pigi | bbl |
| 20:58.55 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2eeaab44... 10/packages/gpe-what/gpe-what_0.41.bb: gpe-what: update to 0.41 |
| 20:58.59 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4c96dc4e... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.48.bb: gpe-bluetooth: update to 0.48 |
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| 21:24.37 | zecke | is some one running a 2.6.14 kernel on a StrongARM? |
| 21:25.48 | gremlin[it] | mhhh wait |
| 21:26.39 | gremlin[it] | nope last cvs is 2.6.13 :( |
| 21:27.27 | gremlin[it] | where u got 2.6.14 ? |
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| 21:34.01 | gremlin[it] | zecke ... |
| 21:36.35 | zecke | gremlin[it]: vanilla tree. My shark will not boot off nfs |
| 21:37.03 | gremlin[it] | ah ok |
| 21:39.40 | pb_ | zecke: still? that's very sad. |
| 21:39.47 | pb_ | can you see it trying to open any files if you run tcpdump? |
| 21:40.16 | zecke | pb_: yes I see a lot of NFS calls (mount, get, getattr...) |
| 21:40.25 | pb_ | what's the last thing it tries to open? |
| 21:40.31 | zecke | pb_: but then it stops ;) |
| 21:41.00 | zecke | pb_: don't remember but the last thing I see are retransmission's and timeout of packages |
| 21:41.23 | pb_ | oh dear |
| 21:41.24 | zecke | pb_: but I still can ping the machine, scroll the boot log.. |
| 21:41.28 | pb_ | retransmissions and timeouts can't be good |
| 21:41.34 | pb_ | maybe you have some fragment-related problem |
| 21:41.56 | zecke | pb_: a more important issue |
| 21:42.27 | zecke | pb_: AC_CHECK_PROG_VER is unknown when I do the usual autotools.bbclass do_configure on glibc |
| 21:42.42 | zecke | pb_: and it says I should use m4_allow_pattern to make it known... |
| 21:42.52 | zecke | pb_: I'm about to patch the 'configure' script... |
| 21:43.10 | gremlin[it] | good night |
| 21:43.18 | pb_ | mm, interesting |
| 21:43.34 | pb_ | glibc's aclocal.m4 in cvs contains that macro, but there's no clue as to where it comes from |
| 21:44.19 | zecke | maybe seeting acpaths = " -I." helps.. let me try this |
| 21:44.51 | pb_ | I doubt that will help. autotools.bbclass blows away aclocal.m4 |
| 21:45.05 | pb_ | you could copy the macro out of there and patch it into acinclude.m4, though |
| 21:45.32 | zecke | pb_: ah thanks |
| 21:45.51 | zecke | this explains why my manual autoreconf worked |
| 21:46.17 | pb_ | yeah |
| 21:46.27 | pb_ | autotools.bbclass removes that file because it is a common hideout for bogus libtool macros |
| 21:46.42 | pb_ | (and, in theory, it can be regenerated by "aclocal" so contains no valuable data) |
| 21:47.19 | pb_ | but unfortunately it's quite common for packages to treat aclocal.m4 as a source file rather than a generated one, and add their local macros there by hand. |
| 21:47.25 | zecke | ~lart Mr. Drepper |
| 21:47.33 | zecke | lol |
| 21:47.44 | pb_ | crumbs, fighting talk |
| 21:48.29 | pb_ | ah yeah, the cvs history for aclocal.m4 reveals the culprit |
| 21:48.40 | pb_ | revision 1.11 |
| 21:48.40 | pb_ | date: 1998/04/02 17:40:54; author: drepper; state: Exp; lines: +63 -33 |
| 21:48.40 | pb_ | (AC_PROG_CC_LOCAL): Remove superfluous tests. |
| 21:48.40 | pb_ | (AC_PROG_CHECK_VER): New macro. |
| 21:49.10 | zecke | lol he was even responsible for it |
| 21:49.28 | pb_ | yeah |
| 21:49.39 | pb_ | nearly eight years ago, though, so I guess one should cut him some slack |
| 21:51.45 | zecke | thanks master |
| 21:51.55 | zecke | I might have a glibc building at the end of this year |
| 21:52.08 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:52.15 | pb_ | no time to lose, then |
| 22:02.56 | zecke | pb_: what place is preferable over configure.in? creating a m4 dir? |
| 22:03.28 | pb_ | zecke: just make aczecke.m4 in the top level |
| 22:03.34 | pb_ | or acinclude.m4, or anything other than aclocal.m4 |
| 22:03.46 | zecke | pb_: so ac*.m4 |
| 22:04.19 | pb_ | yeah, might even be *.m4 |
| 22:04.55 | pb_ | if you pick something other than acinclude.m4, you might need to add "-I ." to the acpath. |
| 22:06.39 | kergoth | if he picks a different filename, -I . will only help if he does an m4_include() to pull the file in |
| 22:07.03 | pb_ | hm, really? I thought aclocal searched all the dirs in the path to find its macros. |
| 22:07.35 | pb_ | I don't recall ever having needed to use m4_include() before. |
| 22:07.53 | pb_ | happy new year kergoth, by the way |
| 22:08.25 | kergoth | it does search those dirs, but it doesnt load every .m4 laying around |
| 22:08.42 | kergoth | unless he has an AC_REQUIRE()? |
| 22:08.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:08.49 | kergoth | likewise |
| 22:08.59 | kergoth | my resolution is to get and keep a job that i dont despise |
| 22:09.00 | zecke | autoheader: warning: missing template: ASM_GLOBAL_DIRECTIVE |
| 22:09.00 | zecke | autoheader: Use AC_DEFINE([ASM_GLOBAL_DIRECTIVE], [], [Description]) |
| 22:09.12 | zecke | fun fun fun |
| 22:09.38 | pb_ | kergoth: heh. what's your current employment situation? |
| 22:09.47 | pb_ | presumably either unemployed or in a job that you despise, given that resolution |
| 22:10.03 | Crofton | desperatley seeking a jb he doesn't despise |
| 22:10.56 | pb_ | Crofton: yeah, I figured that much out |
| 22:15.03 | zecke | pb_: I'm facing the problem that config.h lacks results of tests that were ran |
| 22:15.30 | zecke | pb_: at the bottom of config.log I have a 'confdefs.h' section with all the #define's |
| 22:15.41 | zecke | pb_: I wonder where I should start looking at? |
| 22:16.04 | pb_ | zecke: config.h.in should probably be your first port of call |
| 22:16.33 | zecke | pb_: config.h is generated by autoheader? |
| 22:18.46 | kergoth | config.h.in is, config.h is generated by configure |
| 22:18.50 | kergoth | iirc |
| 22:19.01 | zecke | well enough glibc toying for today... |
| 22:20.05 | Pigi | If I need some betatesters for my new fixes, what can be the right procedure ? |
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| 23:27.04 | zecke | Pigi: ask koen ;) |
| 23:27.14 | Pigi | zecke, ;) |
| 23:27.49 | Pigi | I will send a mail in oe@ or familiar-dev@ and see what's happen :) |
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| 23:35.03 | Pigi | Time to sleep. |
| 23:35.12 | Pigi | Nite all! |
| 23:41.28 | zecke | good nite |
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