| 00:14.22 | pb_ | surely in the native case the site file will already point to powerpc-darwin |
| 00:14.37 | pb_ | if it doesn't, that's definitely a bug |
| 00:19.11 | zecke | using peek of the bitbake shell I see it points to arm-linux :} |
| 00:21.30 | pb_ | crumbs |
| 00:22.02 | pb_ | it shouldn't do: it's defined in terms of HOST_ARCH and HOST_OS, which are (should be) set by native.bbclass |
| 00:23.18 | zecke | right |
| 00:24.34 | zecke | hmmm |
| 00:24.46 | zecke | now it evaluates to something empty... |
| 00:29.09 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 00:47.26 | zecke | koen: http://pastebin.com/484845 |
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| 01:00.28 | pb_ | night night |
| 01:01.45 | zecke | pb_: cya |
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| 02:03.19 | gerwinin | lo |
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| 03:34.08 | NAbyss | Are there any known issues with glibc in OE? Keep getting a "Machine byte order unknown." #error on build. |
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| 04:21.17 | gerwinin | Nabyss explain |
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| 04:22.39 | NAbyss | gerwinin: I'm grabbing the sources yet again at present, but when attempting to do a 'bitbake pivotboot-image' for a zaurus (borzoi), glibc compilation fails with an #error |
| 04:23.44 | NAbyss | I'm guessing that there's something probably missing from my local.conf with regards to target machine, but I've got MACHINE="borzoi" and TARGET_ARCH="arm" |
| 04:24.21 | gerwinin | Can you put the error on pastbin |
| 04:24.25 | gerwinin | So I can have a look |
| 04:25.17 | gerwinin | When you specify machine than you do not need to specify target_arch |
| 04:25.19 | NAbyss | Yep, in a couple of minutes.. I'm pulling down the libc source again, so once it (attempts to) build, I'll chuck it up |
| 04:25.24 | NAbyss | ah, okies |
| 04:25.35 | NAbyss | I've tried it with and without target_arch.. no luck both ways |
| 04:41.43 | NAbyss | http://pastebin.com/484993 |
| 04:45.27 | gerwinin | I think this is some kind of error that can be fixed with an arm specific thing |
| 04:45.34 | gerwinin | Did you try to google ? |
| 04:46.12 | NAbyss | Yeah, zilch |
| 04:46.37 | gerwinin | But what I do know is that sometimes changing the prefered provide for glibc works |
| 04:47.34 | gerwinin | So that for example you grab a previous version of glibc |
| 04:48.53 | NAbyss | ah, okies.. where do I change that.. the .bb file? |
| 04:50.36 | gerwinin | No in the local.conf |
| 04:53.01 | NAbyss | I'm still a bit lost with what to put in there.. any pointers? |
| 05:00.29 | gerwinin | Okay when my compile is finished I will give you an example |
| 05:00.35 | NAbyss | Okies, thanks |
| 05:10.22 | wingel_away | NAbyss, files have been moved around in the glibc CVS that OE depends on. |
| 05:11.52 | wingel_away | apply this patch to the openembedded stuff and it should work: http://zoo.weinigel.se/n30/downloads/glibc.patch |
| 05:12.04 | NAbyss | wingel_away: Thanks |
| 05:12.10 | wingel_away | cd org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
| 05:12.18 | wingel_away | patch -p1 <path/to/glibc.patch |
| 05:13.01 | NAbyss | Yep, succeeded |
| 05:13.18 | NAbyss | I'll see how the build goes |
| 05:24.46 | NAbyss | Well, that solved part of the issue.. now it's terminating with this: |
| 05:25.01 | NAbyss | | /mnt/personal/zaurus/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1/temp/run.do_compile.20513: line 169: cd: /mnt/personal/zaurus/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1/libc/sunrpc/rpcsvc: No such file or directory |
| 05:42.47 | NAbyss | nm.. seems to be compiling now.. just needed to nuke tmp. |
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| 09:17.06 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 09:52.22 | uv1 | Good morning all |
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| 09:58.40 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 10:01.51 | uv1 | reenoo_: BTW I did manage the pcmcia-manager problem this morning. Downloaded OE.db.bz2, checked out, pulled, updated (no probs) and then had to build pcmcia-cs, task-bootstrap and opie-image. Thanks for your hints yesterday ;-) |
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| 10:14.29 | reenoo_ | uv1: no problem. glad to hear it's working for you now. |
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| 12:01.19 | uv1 | Can anyone lead me to a x86 distro that supports opie ? |
| 12:32.07 | zecke | uv1: none i guess. the Opie debian packages are outdatet |
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| 12:34.34 | uv1 | zecke: What are the opie debian packages ? Are that (all) opie *.deb`s ? |
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| 12:36.29 | zecke | uv1: they are from 2002 or such |
| 12:36.40 | zecke | uv1: they won't give you pleasure at all |
| 12:50.45 | zecke | oh my god... case insensitive file systems... |
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| 14:40.47 | uv1 | A happy new year to you all, "Guten Rutsch", see you next year ;-) |
| 14:46.13 | pH5 | uv1: happy new year to you, too |
| 14:50.56 | zecke | uv1: cya! |
| 14:51.04 | zecke | uv1: what is the state of your rpm patch? |
| 14:51.20 | zecke | uv1: do we need to commit anything? |
| 14:51.45 | zecke | mithro: we need to get my SHARK running now! |
| 14:53.19 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:53.20 | uv1 | zecke: Nothing new yet. Did not have time to do that in pyton. Willi care for next year. If you aare happy with the bash/ash commands, you can commit that patch. It works for me since weeks ... |
| 14:53.27 | pb_ | zecke: did you ever manage to track down any dnard firmware? |
| 14:54.39 | zecke | pb_: a friend of mine gave me his copy |
| 14:54.46 | zecke | pb_: are you looking for firmware as well? |
| 14:54.58 | pb_ | aha. no, I don't have any sharks myself. |
| 14:55.21 | pb_ | just curious about the disposition of yours. |
| 14:56.19 | zecke | pb_: I have given one to the Uni. and mine is mostly powered off :( |
| 14:58.11 | mithro | zecke: where is your SHARK? |
| 14:58.17 | zecke | mithro: upstairs |
| 14:59.22 | pb_ | ah, you chose not to install it under a hidden trap-door in the floor. |
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| 15:44.54 | zecke | pb_: readelf is part of binutils as well? |
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| 15:51.54 | zecke | die glib die |
| 15:52.00 | zecke | glibc even |
| 15:52.47 | pb_ | zecke: yeah |
| 15:53.48 | zecke | glibc checks for .init_array, .finit_array using readelf |
| 15:53.58 | zecke | well it does not check if I have readelf at all |
| 15:54.15 | gremlin[it] | let's moveall to ulibc ;) |
| 15:54.21 | pb_ | oh, right |
| 15:54.28 | pb_ | I guess it should use TARGET_SYS-readelf |
| 15:55.21 | zecke | CHECK_TOOL would use powerpc-readelf? not arm-linux- |
| 15:55.34 | pb_ | not sure |
| 15:55.49 | pb_ | experimentation might be the order of the day there |
| 15:55.54 | zecke | http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.57/html_node/autoconf_41.html#SEC41 |
| 15:56.01 | zecke | yeah I will test |
| 15:58.32 | pb_ | aha! |
| 15:58.45 | pb_ | at last, gij works. |
| 15:58.52 | pb_ | pb@kuat:~/gcj-4.0-4.0.2/build/arm-linux-gnu/libjava$ ./.libs/gij hello |
| 15:58.52 | pb_ | Hello crazy world of Java |
| 15:58.52 | pb_ | pb@kuat:~/gcj-4.0-4.0.2/build/arm-linux-gnu/libjava$ |
| 15:59.00 | pb_ | I'll now be known as javamaster for a short time. |
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| 16:01.28 | zecke | pb_: it is locked in the archives forever ;) |
| 16:02.01 | AvengerMoJo | Happy New Year |
| 16:02.13 | pb_ | zecke: heh |
| 16:04.19 | zecke | AC_CHECK_PROG(readelf, $READELF) would work? to find 'readelf' right? |
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| 16:04.54 | pb_ | I suspect that "$" is spurious, but other than that it looks right |
| 16:05.09 | pH5 | | mkdir /usr/local/lib/perl: Permission denied at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 112 |
| 16:05.25 | pH5 | is libxml-parser-perl-native supposed to install something into /usr/local/lib/perl? |
| 16:07.10 | zecke | pb_: I will stil it from the size_of patch |
| 16:07.14 | zecke | *wuhhahaaa* |
| 16:08.18 | gremlin[it] | ph5 mhh i got a simil erroro in past ... mhhh i resolved setting perl-something as already present ... |
| 16:09.07 | gremlin[it] | mhh not 'already present' ... but present in the host system :) |
| 16:09.44 | pH5 | gremlin[it]: I just did this too, but it's just working around the issue ;) |
| 16:09.53 | gremlin[it] | ahh ok :) |
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| 17:05.53 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 17:06.00 | reenoo_ | pb_: congrats on gij! |
| 17:06.04 | woglinde | ciao piggy |
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| 17:08.41 | Pigi | zecke, you around ? |
| 17:12.46 | pb_ | reenoo_: heh, thanks |
| 17:13.03 | Pigi | gij ? |
| 17:14.16 | pb_ | yeah, gcc's java bytecode interpreter |
| 17:14.25 | Pigi | wow..... really nice. |
| 17:18.22 | pb_ | I guess it'd be amusing to see whether the same ffi bits will also make pnet/gtk# work. |
| 17:19.42 | reenoo_ | pb_: fyi, if you want to make it official I can post it on planet.classpath.org. |
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| 17:34.49 | Pigi | bbl |
| 17:35.09 | gremlin[it] | ciao Pigi !!! |
| 17:35.12 | gremlin[it] | buon anno |
| 17:35.31 | Pigi|afk | ciao gremlin[it] , un meraviglioso 2006 a te :) |
| 17:36.04 | gremlin[it] | grazie anche a te :) |
| 17:42.01 | woglinde | ciao piggy happy new year |
| 17:49.44 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
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| 17:52.00 | reenoo_ | pb_: can you perhaps think of any way to track down why the alsa drivers would fail to work unless the modules are loaded after all other modules? |
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| 17:53.30 | pb_ | reenoo_: not offhand. what's the failure? |
| 17:55.01 | reenoo_ | pb_: no sound output IIRC |
| 17:56.08 | pb_ | that is odd. is this on h3800? |
| 17:56.24 | reenoo_ | yes |
| 17:56.42 | pb_ | and no errors in dmesg or anything like that? |
| 17:57.04 | reenoo_ | I'll try to reproduce it now |
| 17:57.05 | pb_ | I guess the first thing to try would be to poke at the control registers with devmem2 to see if the audio power is actually turned on and that kind of thing. |
| 17:58.15 | lrg|home | reenoo_: It's also possible that your outputs are muted. This can be checked with alsamixer |
| 17:59.59 | reenoo_ | lrg|home: no shit |
| 18:01.46 | lrg|home | reenoo_: I'm not trying to be funny. I've done this myself before, esp when there are lots of mixers on the card. |
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| 18:05.25 | lrg|home | reenoo_, pb_: fwiw, if you can hear a pop when the audio modules are loaded it usually means your codec or amp has power and output lines have been raised to vmid. |
| 18:09.12 | reenoo_ | lrg|home: well. unless you have an sa ipaq around I guess you'll have to trust my analysis. fwiw, this is not the first time I work with alsa. |
| 18:10.13 | pb_ | reenoo_: where are the sources to the alsa-driver kept these days? Are the ones in cvs still current? |
| 18:10.45 | lrg|home | reenoo_: sorry, wasn't doubting your analysis. just trying to suggest more common reasons for failure. |
| 18:10.56 | gremlin[it] | reenoo_ forme alsa not compile ;( ... (jpaq h3600) |
| 18:10.57 | reenoo_ | pb_: SRC_URI = "ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/packages/alsa-driver/alsa-driver-${PV}.tar.gz |
| 18:11.03 | pb_ | thanks |
| 18:11.07 | pb_ | can you give me a clue about PV? |
| 18:11.17 | reenoo_ | 0.9.6-hh4c |
| 18:11.25 | reenoo_ | plus a few patches in OE it seems |
| 18:11.59 | pb_ | okay |
| 18:12.12 | pb_ | I'll have a look at the code in the tarball and see if anything seems to be grievously wrong with it |
| 18:13.07 | reenoo_ | gremlin[it]: that is unfortunate. works fine in .dev and oz354fam083 for me. but I guess you may be working with a 2.6 kernel. |
| 18:13.14 | reenoo_ | pb_: thanks |
| 18:13.47 | reenoo_ | ~stab gentoo |
| 18:13.51 | ibot | ACTION runs at gentoo with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:13.51 | gremlin[it] | yes 2.6 kerne ... |
| 18:14.35 | reenoo_ | stupid bt module wasn't autoloaded again. and I wonder why I can't establish a connection :/ |
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| 18:16.55 | pb_ | well, it looks like the sa11xx-uda1341 driver does do most of its initialisation at load time, rather than when the device is opened. So I guess some other module must be clobbering the hardware state that it sets up. |
| 18:17.29 | pb_ | iirc, the oss driver is the other way round: it does pretty much everything when open() is called. So that might explain why the problem only occurs with alsa. |
| 18:18.12 | pb_ | as for what the particular thing is that's going wrong, the only way to figure that out is probably to try different orderings until you can figure out which particular module is responsible for the problem. |
| 18:21.13 | lrg|home | Happy New Year to all. cu next year. |
| 18:23.26 | reenoo_ | yeah, I guessed as much. just thought you might have an obvious candidate for the module at fault or something |
| 18:23.49 | reenoo_ | there's nothing obviously wrong in dmesg |
| 18:24.04 | pb_ | no, sorry. could be pretty much anything. |
| 18:24.06 | reenoo_ | (other than tons of alignment traps in rxvt) |
| 18:24.23 | reenoo_ | madplay is reporting an I/O error |
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| 18:30.51 | pb_ | hail mickeyl |
| 18:32.44 | gremlin[it] | hi mickeyl |
| 18:32.54 | pb_ | reenoo_: oh, hm, I wonder where that's coming from. There aren't all that many places that you can get -EIO without an accompanying complaint in dmesg. |
| 18:33.19 | mickeyl | hi guys!# |
| 18:33.24 | mickeyl | everything prepared? :) |
| 18:33.47 | reenoo_ | hey mickeyl |
| 18:35.52 | reenoo_ | hmm. now devfs won't create device nodes. |
| 18:38.42 | reenoo_ | pb_: thanks for your help |
| 18:39.09 | mickeyl | Guten Rutsch reenoo_afk |
| 18:39.37 | reenoo_afk | mickeyl: dir auch. und feier schoen. |
| 18:39.41 | mickeyl | yep |
| 18:39.42 | reenoo_afk | afk for real now |
| 18:39.45 | mickeyl | cu |
| 18:40.04 | reenoo_afk | later all |
| 18:40.33 | woglinde | tschau renoo guten rutsch |
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| 18:47.50 | Nix-niX | woglinde, hast du mal kurz zeit und nerven ? |
| 18:48.32 | woglinde_ | so whats your problem? |
| 18:48.45 | Nix-niX | please not in english |
| 18:48.54 | woglinde_ | then querry |
| 18:51.16 | Nix-niX | query geht nicht spam |
| 18:51.25 | woglinde_ | args sorry |
| 18:51.33 | woglinde_ | damned |
| 18:51.38 | Nix-niX | join #nixistdoof |
| 18:51.39 | woglinde_ | then join opie.de |
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| 21:14.23 | Pigi|afk | guys, I would like to wish a happy new year to everyone. |
| 21:14.31 | Pigi|afk | See you next year ;) |
| 21:15.18 | madcat` | hey |
| 21:37.13 | zecke | glibc vs. zecke |
| 21:37.21 | zecke | 0xffff vs. 0xffff+1 |
| 21:39.38 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 21:41.19 | zecke | I've glibc almost building |
| 21:42.06 | zecke | and then it stopped building |
| 22:09.34 | pb_ | zecke: how frustrating |
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| 22:12.38 | zecke | pb_: readelf issue is fixed |
| 22:12.47 | zecke | pb_: now 'as' barfs |
| 22:13.26 | zecke | arm/sysdep.S:30: Error: bad instruction `asm_global_directive ___syscall_error |
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| 22:17.17 | pb_ | that sounds like another autoconf malfunction |
| 22:17.33 | pb_ | I'm guessing that you are meant to have "#define asm_global_directive .globl" somewhere. |
| 22:18.19 | zecke | pb_: smells like another binutils issue ;) |
| 22:18.33 | zecke | pb_: at least my Shark can execute the test case (userspace) |
| 22:20.51 | pb_ | anything in config.log? |
| 22:22.14 | zecke | pb_: nothing too interesting. the test with .globl compiles |
| 22:24.01 | pb_ | does your config.h have the right definition in? |
| 22:25.55 | reenoo_ | pb_: fyi, I now see the same behaviour with alsa as Paul Eggleton reported. needs a suspend/resume cycle to make the driver work |
| 22:26.23 | pb_ | reenoo_: yeah, suspend/resume will reinitialise the driver |
| 22:26.32 | zecke | pb_: suprisingly it is not present ;) |
| 22:27.11 | zecke | pb_: I have | #define ASM_GLOBAL_DIRECTIVE .globl |
| 22:27.14 | zecke | | #define HAVE_ASM_SET_DIRECTIVE 1 |
| 22:27.17 | zecke | in the config.log |
| 22:27.36 | pb_ | but not in config.h? that is unfortunate. |
| 22:29.00 | zecke | pb_: ../temp/log.do_configure.13266:autoheader: warning: missing template: ASM_GLOBAL_DIRECTIVE |
| 22:29.17 | zecke | pb_: that sounds like a possible cause? |
| 22:29.25 | pb_ | it does rather |
| 22:29.34 | pb_ | I think that means that autoheader thinks your config.h.in is faulty |
| 22:29.49 | reenoo_ | yeah. it does. |
| 22:31.42 | pb_ | ah, nasty |
| 22:43.57 | reenoo_ | pb_: I'm looking at sa11xx_uda1341_pm_callback() in alsa-driver-0.9.6-hh4c/alsa-kernel/arm/sa11xx-uda1341.c now. is that the right place? |
| 22:44.25 | reenoo_ | (to figure out what's happening during suspend/resume) |
| 22:46.43 | pb_ | reenoo_: yeah |
| 22:51.05 | reenoo_ | ok, cool. will continue next year. time to prepare some fireworks stuff now >:) |
| 22:51.11 | reenoo_ | later all |
| 22:51.15 | pb_ | enjoy |
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| 23:04.18 | zecke | pb_: remember the times with nfsroot on 10mbit half duplex links? |
| 23:04.38 | zecke | pb_: how fast was loading 'sh'? |
| 23:08.19 | pb_ | with libc cached? pretty fast, maybe around half a second. |
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| 23:21.11 | zecke | it is sitting there for minutes without transfering a single packet |
| 23:21.38 | pb_ | I suppose that's what we call "crashed" |
| 23:22.30 | zecke | pb_: well a light is blinking... |
| 23:23.30 | zecke | well userspace is overrated anyway |
| 23:24.27 | zecke | pb_: the kernel is still running. maybe my console is on serial... |
| 23:26.02 | pb_ | ah, heh |
| 23:26.07 | pb_ | can you ping the machine over the network? |
| 23:26.43 | zecke | I won't say yes, I will not deny though |
| 23:26.57 | zecke | but I have not seen the request for sh on ethereal |
| 23:32.14 | Crofton | 28 minutes to the leap second |
| 23:32.24 | reenoo_ | happy new year everybody |
| 23:32.33 | Crofton | heh |
| 23:32.37 | zecke | happy new year |
| 23:32.46 | Crofton | not for 5.5 hours here |
| 23:32.57 | Crofton | but happy new year to you anyway :) |
| 23:33.10 | zecke | pb_: could a missing inittab explain a missing console? |
| 23:33.18 | pb_ | yeah |
| 23:33.20 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.32 | pb_ | init will just sulk if it doesn't have an inittab |
| 23:33.32 | zecke | hmm stupid debootsratp |
| 23:33.45 | reenoo_ | Crofton: the joy of timezone differences ;) |
| 23:35.13 | zecke | reenoo_: any useful tv program? |
| 23:35.59 | reenoo_ | zecke: don't think so |
| 23:36.11 | reenoo_ | zecke: not until now anyway |
| 23:36.55 | Crofton | I am getting set up to video tape the leap second |
| 23:36.56 | zecke | 9Live,DSF and VOX probably offer the best program currently |
| 23:37.06 | zecke | but that is quite of frustrating |
| 23:37.17 | reenoo_ | heh |
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| 23:45.05 | zecke | bluelightning: hey |
| 23:45.10 | zecke | bluelightning: happy new year |
| 23:45.19 | zecke | bluelightning: got a second? ;) |
| 23:45.37 | bluelightning | hi zecke |
| 23:45.41 | bluelightning | zecke: happy new year to you also ::) |
| 23:45.43 | bluelightning | zecke: sure |
| 23:46.01 | zecke | bluelightning: did Armin mail you about a OpenSync account? |
| 23:46.15 | bluelightning | zecke: yes he did |
| 23:46.28 | zecke | bluelightning: do you feel like comitting your wip? |
| 23:46.45 | bluelightning | I haven't got around to checking anything significant in yet... I was planning on doing some work & committing over the break (I go back to work on the 9th) |
| 23:46.46 | zecke | or did you do that already? |
| 23:46.58 | bluelightning | if you don't mind broken code in svn I can commit what I have now |
| 23:47.08 | zecke | ah that sounds good (work) |
| 23:47.21 | zecke | I do not mind it. would have to check with armin though |
| 23:47.27 | bluelightning | ok |
| 23:48.20 | zecke | bluelightning: I'm sure he won't mind. And I have some time scheduled for the plugin as wel |
| 23:48.27 | zecke | so I might join you with hacking/testing |
| 23:49.06 | bluelightning | zecke: great :) |
| 23:50.15 | bluelightning | I haven't got very far really... it brings contact data across from Opie but it doesn't recognise changes properly or write them back to Opie yet... and I haven't really even started on calendar/todos yet |
| 23:52.57 | zecke | bluelightning: well the finding changes could come free with OpenSync |
| 23:53.45 | zecke | pb_: I feel dumb. What when I see the console on booting. and I have init=/bin/sh in the cmdline |
| 23:53.55 | zecke | pb_: it should give me a console?! |
| 23:54.08 | bluelightning | zecke: yeah, I think I'm just not making the right calls for it to work yet |
| 23:54.10 | zecke | pb_: and it should be visible on the screen |