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| 00:33.33 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | does anyone know what this error means? Anonymous access over SSH is replaced by the (more efficient) pserver. while trying to retrive quilt? |
| 00:38.11 | Geo_KM | FYI....psmisc-21.8-r0 is failing the do_compile step when building any image from scratch. |
| 00:38.32 | Geo_KM | I can't pretend to understand why 8-( |
| 00:47.06 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | i'm having probs building sdl-image from sctrach too... :( |
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| 00:48.26 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | here's my error if anyone cares to look :/ http://pastebin.ca/33839 |
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| 08:21.14 | ArjanS | koen: good morning |
| 08:21.31 | koen | hey ArjanS |
| 08:22.47 | ArjanS | would it be okay to put the h1940.conf updates also in .oz354fam083 branch? it wouldn't affect anyone since the h1940 is not a familiar 0.8.3 supported device |
| 08:24.50 | ArjanS | and perhaps the bluez-utils too, that one is harmless too |
| 08:24.59 | ArjanS | bluez-utils patch* |
| 08:31.58 | ArjanS | if so, can/may I do that myself? what's the policy on that? |
| 08:32.45 | koen | you can't do that yourself, only mickeyl, hrw and I update the branch |
| 08:33.02 | ArjanS | and yet another (the last) question: if I find .bb's I can fix, but I'm not the maintainer of, should I file a bug for the maintainer to fix or fix it myself? |
| 08:33.56 | ArjanS | same applies to new versions of packages (f.i. bluez-utils-2.23), should the maintainer add them? |
| 08:39.12 | koen | if it's a typo you can fix it yourself for bigger changes ask on irc, or use bugzilla |
| 08:39.28 | ArjanS | ok thanks |
| 08:39.34 | koen | you can add new packages, but remove the MAINTAINER field if you copy it |
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| 08:51.28 | oxi | hi |
| 08:55.04 | koen | hey oxi |
| 08:55.54 | oxi | should i compile bootstrap-image first to try it on my pda? there seems to be no distro for it yet |
| 08:57.23 | hrw|work | hi |
| 08:57.28 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:57.41 | koen | oxi: bootstrap-image would be a good start |
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| 08:59.50 | oxi | thank you :) |
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| 09:00.54 | ade|desk | lo folks |
| 09:01.11 | koen | hey ade|desk |
| 09:01.15 | koen | hey XorA |
| 09:01.16 | XorA | morning |
| 09:01.32 | koen | ade|desk: could you add your diet-x11 patch for 6.2.1 to OE? |
| 09:01.39 | hrw|work | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk: rm -rf CVSDIR/quilt* |
| 09:02.33 | hrw|work | oxi: which pda? |
| 09:03.00 | koen | htc universal |
| 09:03.33 | koen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 09:03.37 | hrw|work | universal.. its mda4, qtek9100 thing? clamshell after wizard? |
| 09:04.28 | ade|desk | koen: i was going to add it to bug.oe as its not my package, i didn't want to add it until mallum had checked it out to be ok. I am not sure about one of the castings of NULL, but it seems to work ok |
| 09:15.20 | oxi | hrw|work: qtek 9000 i think... i-mate jasjar, t-mobile mda pro |
| 09:18.39 | koen | yay! |
| 09:19.02 | koen | r6 solves the glibc dependency loop |
| 09:20.41 | ade|desk | koen: patch added to bugs.oe |
| 09:21.01 | koen | ade|desk: thanks |
| 09:21.20 | ade|desk | koen: want the modified bb too or not ? |
| 09:21.35 | koen | sure |
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| 09:35.03 | ade|desk | koen: done |
| 09:36.04 | koen | thanks |
| 09:36.41 | koen | very* |
| 09:36.57 | koen | time for coffee |
| 09:37.06 | ade|desk | angstrom release before christmas ;) |
| 09:37.13 | koen | yes |
| 09:37.21 | koen | christmas next year :p |
| 09:37.22 | oxi | is it ok to have MACHINE = "handheld-common" and DISTRO = "generic" in my local.conf to compile for my pda? |
| 09:37.39 | koen | I'd choose distro=familiar |
| 09:38.10 | koen | you can safely remove the bbfatal line |
| 09:38.34 | koen | distro=familiar-0.8.3 would be even better |
| 09:38.57 | koen | that's what the other xda people are using too |
| 09:39.15 | oxi | i see. thanks koen :) |
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| 09:54.25 | do13 | morning all |
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| 10:00.13 | koen | hey do13 |
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| 10:01.23 | oxi | http://pastebin.com/466430 <-- whats wrong with this? |
| 10:01.43 | df00z | Does OE work in Cgywin? |
| 10:01.53 | df00z | Someone needs to know, I would imagine it does |
| 10:01.59 | hrw|work | df00z: better in colinux |
| 10:02.12 | koen | oxi: you haven't defined a kernel for your device, so it picks a random one |
| 10:02.13 | hrw|work | df00z: iirc runs in cygwin but fscking slow |
| 10:02.37 | do13 | hi koen, hrw|work |
| 10:02.49 | oxi | where do i set this? local.conf? |
| 10:02.50 | df00z | Cool |
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| 10:03.06 | koen | oxi: or start a htc-universal.conf |
| 10:05.18 | koen | that one is cute |
| 10:06.52 | hrw|work | yes |
| 10:09.36 | hrw|work | hack attack by prepared fontfile... nice |
| 10:11.50 | gridzero | Are we missing the referenced arm-no-hwcap.patch from the glibc update that just got committed, or have I broken my setup *again*? :( |
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| 10:19.41 | Cobelius | everytime i create an image and booting it I get an kernel panic, because init can't find the librar libgcc_s.so.1. Wich package I have to add that this library is included? |
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| 10:31.50 | hrw|work | libgcc1 |
| 10:31.59 | hrw|work | it should be in image |
| 10:44.03 | ArjanS | hi guys |
| 10:44.38 | _law_ | arm-no-hwcap.patch wound apply |
| 10:44.59 | ArjanS | tried to build gpe-image from the .dev branch today, and it stuck on xserver-kdrive complaining about ShmFuncs... I remember something like that, but don't remember the solution... anybody knows it? |
| 10:49.52 | oxi | http://pastebin.com/466448 <--- still wrong... i used blueangel.conf and explicitly set kernel vers in local.conf... what am i missing? |
| 10:53.11 | ade|desk | gridzero: yup just hit that one too |
| 10:57.25 | _law_ | http://pastebin.com/466457 arm-no-hwcap.patch isnt here :-( |
| 10:58.54 | _law_ | patch is in glibc-cvs dir |
| 10:59.07 | _law_ | OE cant find him :-( |
| 10:59.07 | ade|desk | indeed |
| 11:00.11 | oxi | coffee time |
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| 11:05.34 | Cobelius | hmm i found this library in the gcc-cross directory, but it's not copied into the image |
| 11:05.48 | Cobelius | does anyone have an idea whats wrong`? |
| 11:10.32 | ade|desk | _law_: doesn't apply |
| 11:10.56 | koen | ArjanS: you probably didn't include preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc |
| 11:10.58 | _law_ | ade|desk, hmm so we have to wait for ph5 |
| 11:11.06 | koen | ArjanS: so you X stuff has mismatching versions |
| 11:11.44 | ade|desk | _law_: am looking at older r0 tree and see what the patch was |
| 11:11.53 | _law_ | ade|desk, ok thanks |
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| 11:13.02 | theturtle | I'm trying to modify some progs from org.openembedded.dev and i would like to use bitbake to only compile/package the app. but when i bitbake -c compile, it says that it is an unknown task... and if i simply "bitbake thesoft", it downloads it and overwrite the sources i've modified... do someone has any clue ? |
| 11:13.54 | ade|desk | no such file exists |
| 11:15.20 | ArjanS | koen: can I include it from local.conf? I was merely trying to build with distro=familiar (familiar-0.8.3 says it's not maintained) |
| 11:16.05 | ade|desk | sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm doesn't exist , so patching this area is not valid |
| 11:16.51 | ArjanS | theturtle: it could be that you didn't change the md5sum. if the package checks for that and it fails, it re-downloads the sources |
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| 11:17.47 | theturtle | ArjanS : but the md5sum is not for already unpacked source files but for source archives, right ? |
| 11:19.10 | _law_ | going for lunch, back again later |
| 11:19.13 | koen | ArjanS: you can, but you also can remove that bbfatal line from familiar-0.8.3.conf |
| 11:19.18 | koen | ~bon appetit |
| 11:19.19 | ibot | it has been said that bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito |
| 11:21.15 | hrw|work | re |
| 11:22.07 | koen | wb |
| 11:22.43 | koen | ~seen pH5 |
| 11:22.45 | ibot | ph5 <n=ph5@e178242206.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 12h 1m 31s ago, saying: 'good night'. |
| 11:23.09 | ArjanS | theturtle: true, you have to unpack the sources, modify them, repack them and recalculate the md5sum |
| 11:24.06 | koen | or bitbake -b file.bb -c compile -f |
| 11:24.20 | ade|desk | hmm looks like glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627 doesn't need the arm-no-hwcap.patch i think that was meant for glibc-cvs version |
| 11:31.51 | ade|desk | can we just kick rday off the list... please please please |
| 11:32.01 | koen | heh |
| 11:32.10 | koen | he isn't as annoying as he used to be |
| 11:33.24 | hrw|work | his idea of removing 'notneeded' version looks nice |
| 11:34.10 | ArjanS | and having some well-known procedures can't hurt either |
| 11:34.42 | XorA | as long as people dont randomly remove maintained bb files, not all packages are used by a distro |
| 11:35.26 | koen | the monotone people are looking at a 'monotone patch' command, so applying removal-patches would get a lot less labour intensive |
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| 11:38.33 | ade|desk | koen: how is your eabi build going ? |
| 11:40.37 | koen | ade|desk: stuck |
| 11:41.10 | koen | ade|desk: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/49/4939.html |
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| 11:57.09 | koen | any ARM hackers with a clue about http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/49/4939.html ? |
| 11:59.20 | lrg | koen, sorry no :( |
| 12:00.26 | hrw|work | lrg: your alsa soc support mainstone or only mainstone2? |
| 12:00.52 | hrw|work | http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2005-December/032948.html |
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| 12:04.09 | oxi | http://pastebin.com/466448 <--- still wrong... i used blueangel.conf and explicitly set kernel vers in local.conf... what am i missing? |
| 12:04.46 | koen | could you pastebin your local.conf and blueangel.conf? |
| 12:05.08 | hrw|work | oxi: PREFFERED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "your_kernel" |
| 12:05.59 | lrg | hrw|work, Mainstone and Mainstone are pretty much the same thing. Mainstone has the cpu in a bga sockect for removal. |
| 12:06.19 | lrg | hrw|work, I mean Mainstone and mainstone2 |
| 12:06.39 | hrw|work | lrg: so it looks like someone also work on audio for them - duplication? |
| 12:07.15 | koen | hrw|work: http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2005-December/032952.html |
| 12:07.23 | koen | that's lrg's reply :) |
| 12:07.29 | hrw|work | ah. |
| 12:07.34 | lrg | hrw|work, Nico did the original audio code for pxa. This works on Lubbock, Mainstone, etc, but it doesn't have the feature we have in asoc. |
| 12:07.58 | koen | has giorgio been converted already? |
| 12:07.58 | hrw|work | my mailreading fails when it comes to lakml - too much mails |
| 12:08.12 | lrg | hrw|work, same here :) |
| 12:08.18 | do13 | lrg: Sorry. I hadn't enough time to test the tosa touch. |
| 12:08.38 | lrg | koen, not yet. It's on my list. |
| 12:08.55 | lrg | do13, np, I have a new patch for you today with accelerated touch |
| 12:09.18 | koen | he's working support for 3 machines I have (h2200/uda1380 and h5550+hx4700/ak<numbers>) |
| 12:09.38 | koen | s/I have/are on my desk for various reasons/ |
| 12:09.56 | do13 | Ahh. I hope I can do some tests this weekend. |
| 12:11.09 | lrg | koen, I should have room in my schedule next week. I'll do the h2200 first |
| 12:11.40 | lrg | koen, I can use this as an example for Giorgio |
| 12:11.45 | koen | cool |
| 12:12.12 | lrg | koen, we should also have a au1200 layer soon. CosmicPenguin is helping me out with this. |
| 12:12.42 | koen | sadly I don't have any alchemy stuff to play with |
| 12:14.13 | _law_ | any news on my glibc patch problem? |
| 12:14.41 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r03457b00... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (13 files in 2 dirs): gpe-login: drop old versions |
| 12:14.45 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r285e33b0... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (gpe-login_0.82.bb gpe-login_0.83.bb): gpe-login: clear maintainer field |
| 12:16.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2f99d322... 10/packages/bootshim/bootShim_0.2.bb: bootshim: remove it because it has been obsoleted by http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/handhelds.org/.message/d8ebd |
| 12:21.18 | oxi | koen: http://pastebin.com/466505 |
| 12:22.19 | oxi | hrw|work: i dont understand the sintax for PREFFERED_PROVIDER... |
| 12:22.59 | hrw|work | oxi: PREFFERED_PROVIDER_providername = "selected_provider" |
| 12:23.42 | hrw|work | oxi: for example you have bluez-utils-dbus and bluez-utils-nodbus - if you want dbus one you set PREFFERED_PROVIDER_bluez-utils="bluez-utils-dbus" |
| 12:24.20 | oxi | hmmm ic thank you |
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| 12:34.04 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0606dcf3... 10/packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_0.14.bb: libgpevtype-0.14: clear maintainer field |
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| 12:41.59 | koen | ~lart eabi |
| 12:48.49 | do13 | koen: It sounds you have fun with eabi:) |
| 12:49.11 | koen | heh |
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| 12:56.57 | hrw|work | mickeyl: morning |
| 12:58.12 | mickeyl | morning hrw |
| 12:58.30 | do13 | hi mickeyl |
| 12:58.40 | mickeyl | hi |
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| 13:00.47 | hrw|work | Ph5 'The Cleaner' |
| 13:01.39 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:01.47 | mickeyl | i should check for some obsolete versions as well |
| 13:01.49 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 13:02.38 | koen | mickeyl: this eabi thing is getting annoying |
| 13:02.58 | koen | I feel like a gentoo user: trying the latest of everything without having a clue what I'm doing |
| 13:03.05 | _law_ | perhabs he should also look at arm-no-hwcap.patch (glibc) :-) |
| 13:03.14 | hrw|work | oz354fam083 situation is getting annoying too |
| 13:04.24 | mickeyl | koen: yeah, i can understand. that. i feel a bit left aside by our former toolchain experts... |
| 13:04.28 | mickeyl | hrw|work: in how far? |
| 13:04.36 | koen | hrw|work: you mean people releasing images they call OZ3.5.4.x, which aren't built from the branch? |
| 13:05.18 | koen | undermining most of the work done in the branch? |
| 13:05.21 | koen | or something else? |
| 13:06.14 | hrw|work | koen: any 3.5.4* things basically. we released rc1 as rc, then quiet release of rc2 in /tmp/ dir. and also my lack of time and interest in checking how to get altboot nicer for 3.5.4-any |
| 13:06.53 | koen | hrw|work: http://sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/autobuild/3.5.4.1-pre1/ |
| 13:06.55 | koen | that |
| 13:07.27 | hrw|work | with angstrom we should clearly mark which machines are 'supported' (two or more maintainers), 'released/supported' (one maintainer), 'released' (no maintainer but is in OE) |
| 13:07.51 | hrw|work | koen: we have many things around 3.5.4 without 3.5.4 |
| 13:08.02 | koen | yeah |
| 13:08.16 | koen | but try explaining bugs due to .dev <> branch to users |
| 13:08.39 | koen | anything with a 3.5.4 number in it looks official and endorsed |
| 13:08.47 | hrw|work | users and bugs? you got bugreports? happy you are... |
| 13:10.02 | mickeyl | can't we just release a branch build and then close it or is there something really important holding us back? |
| 13:10.38 | hrw|work | collie does not mount mtdram and has problem with sdmount. I lack time for testing |
| 13:11.09 | hrw|work | ~lart gpe people for tmpfs in /media/ram/ |
| 13:11.31 | koen | mickeyl: http://bugs.openembedded.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=350 |
| 13:12.01 | lrg | re |
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| 13:12.09 | koen | mickeyl: but my point was that when someone releases a '3.5.4' build from .dev it effectively makes our branching efforts useless |
| 13:14.10 | koen | the branch was created for: 1) stable development 2) building updates after release 3) easier for 3rd party developers |
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| 13:14.43 | do13 | lrg: One comment wm9712.c needs a "EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(wm97xx_codec);" to use this as a module |
| 13:16.40 | ade|desk | _law_: remove the arm-no-hwcap.patch bit , its bogus imho, it would only apply to the current cvs glibc |
| 13:16.43 | koen | mickeyl: so I don't understand shit like this: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.devel/410 |
| 13:19.04 | mickeyl | koen: yeah i know. it's a bit unfortunate, but we will always have to decide whether to backport potentially destabilizing stuff to branch or not. In the CXK case, I think we better don't release images for they from branch at all. *shrug* |
| 13:19.19 | mickeyl | s/they/them/ |
| 13:19.50 | koen | mickeyl: if they are from .dev, DON'T call it 3.5.4.x |
| 13:20.06 | mickeyl | koen: *nod* the naming is suboptimal. |
| 13:20.38 | koen | I would very much like 2.6 images for cxxxx |
| 13:20.38 | hrw|work | DISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.4-dev-BUILDERNAME-DATE" looks better |
| 13:21.03 | koen | hrw|work: no 3.5.4 number at all |
| 13:21.23 | mickeyl | yeah, perhaps just a timestamp and that's it |
| 13:21.35 | hrw|work | koen: current 3.5.4-pre builds are named '3.5.3-snapshot-DATE' but I see the point |
| 13:21.35 | mickeyl | to reduce confusion with branch |
| 13:21.59 | hrw|work | 'openzaurus development (RP) build 20051214' |
| 13:22.09 | hrw|work | 'openzaurus development (Hrw) build 20051214' |
| 13:22.12 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:22.13 | hrw|work | etc looks nice |
| 13:22.18 | mickeyl | i would prefer those |
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| 13:22.47 | mickeyl | hi zecke |
| 13:22.50 | koen | hey zecke |
| 13:22.53 | zecke | hey |
| 13:23.10 | hrw|work | 'OZ .dev (oz-build@hrw.one.pl) build 20051216' is overkill |
| 13:23.16 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:23.38 | koen | mickeyl: pb_ had some good advice on eabi stuff yesterday |
| 13:23.53 | koen | so our toolchain monkeys haven't abonded us completely |
| 13:24.01 | mickeyl | koen: that leaves me hoping :) |
| 13:24.08 | mickeyl | s/monkeys/gurus/ |
| 13:25.49 | zecke | ~hail debian for broken cups, kmail/gpg... |
| 13:25.53 | ibot | ACTION bows down to debian for broken cups, kmail/gpg... and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:26.20 | hrw|work | zecke: WFM |
| 13:26.42 | koen | heh |
| 13:26.44 | koen | http://tweakers.net/ext/i.dsp/1134734946.jpg |
| 13:29.17 | zecke | hrw|work: WFM means what? |
| 13:29.32 | hrw|work | WorksForMe - Debian 'sid', cups, kmail+gpg |
| 13:30.00 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc75d6480... 10/packages/gpe-contacts/ (12 files in 3 dirs): gpe-contacts: drop old versions |
| 13:35.06 | hrw|work | zecke: cups 1.1.23, kmail 3.5.0-2 |
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| 13:39.47 | koen | hmmm |
| 13:39.56 | koen | a crash inside the BIOS |
| 13:40.01 | koen | stupid x86 hardware |
| 13:42.13 | koen | as nothing seems to work today I might as well upgrade to dapper |
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| 13:51.27 | lrg | do13, thanks. will fix |
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| 14:13.57 | do13 | lrg: any chance to use the wm9712 adc (battery management) build into the kernel and the soundlayer build via module? Because the kernel with sound included is too big for my device. |
| 14:16.16 | lrg | do13, yes, i've made some changes wrt to module deps. The driver now builds and runs as a single module depending on the codec that is selected and if acceleration is selected. |
| 14:16.49 | lrg | do13, after the module is loaded, the battery can be read by reading one of the aux adc's |
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| 14:26.23 | do13 | lrg: Which modules are at least necessary for using the adc's? |
| 14:32.28 | lrg | do13, in the new patch there will only be the 1 module, although it depends on sound. do you need to have aux adc loaded without sound, i.e. built in ? |
| 14:33.51 | do13 | lrg: Yep. I need the adc without loading modules. |
| 14:35.53 | lrg | do13, this will be difficult as it depends on AC97 and hence the sound layer. |
| 14:37.10 | do13 | lrg: Yep. The ac97 driver needs the soundcore. |
| 14:38.47 | lrg | do13, I'm not sure if there is an easy way to do this without loading at least pxa-ac97.ko, ac97_bus.ko, ac97-codec.ko, wm97xx-ts.ko |
| 14:39.33 | hrw|work | heh.. sharp and separate kernel partition ;( |
| 14:39.50 | do13 | lrg: Does ac97-codec needs the soundcore? |
| 14:40.00 | lrg | do13 yes |
| 14:40.04 | hrw|work | koen: LAB is only in hh kernel? |
| 14:40.39 | koen | hrw|work: yes |
| 14:41.08 | do13 | lrg: Another requirement is to wakeup the device periodically during suspend and read the batterylevel. |
| 14:41.44 | hrw|work | koen: have many hooks outside own dir? |
| 14:41.59 | koen | hrw|work: I have no idea |
| 14:42.03 | lrg | do13, I think this requires some thought. |
| 14:42.08 | koen | hrw|work: mreimer or joshua_ would know |
| 14:42.20 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:42.44 | lrg | do13, its a pity we are limited by kernel size or it really wouldnt be an issue |
| 14:43.19 | hrw|work | koen: and other thing - can its shell be used on device directly? I mean 'boot lab/c7x0 and select which kernel to load/boot' |
| 14:43.26 | do13 | lrg: The kernel size is limited |
| 14:43.57 | koen | hrw|work: I think so |
| 14:44.05 | koen | but I only use it via serial console |
| 14:44.14 | hrw|work | koen: which I lack currently |
| 14:44.31 | hrw|work | when I have solder iron in hands they start to shake |
| 14:45.23 | do13 | lrg: I'll try some tests first. Maybe I can compile minimal sound into the kernel and put other stuff into modules. |
| 14:46.00 | do13 | lrg: This will be the easiest solution. |
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| 14:56.49 | lrg | Hey CosmicPenguin |
| 14:56.57 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
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| 15:07.16 | koen | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 15:07.50 | hrw|work | hi mallum CosmicPenguin |
| 15:08.10 | mallum | hello |
| 15:08.35 | RP | "morning" all :) |
| 15:08.49 | do13 | morning richard |
| 15:09.21 | lrg | RP: better late than never :) |
| 15:09.35 | mickeyl | heya RP |
| 15:11.57 | hrw|work | http://iwantoneofthose.com/search.do;?productCode=WATBIN is nice |
| 15:12.05 | mickeyl | heh, yeah |
| 15:12.08 | mickeyl | geeky |
| 15:13.09 | hrw|work | gnome 1.4 had nice one |
| 15:14.11 | hrw|work | kde 3.5 has one but ugly one |
| 15:15.07 | zecke | mickeyl: wb |
| 15:22.43 | oxi | how long does usually take to build a kernel? |
| 15:23.01 | oxi | a bootstrat-image |
| 15:25.30 | mickeyl | 1h |
| 15:25.48 | zecke | mickeyl: so it is O(1)? |
| 15:25.53 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 15:25.56 | mickeyl | of course |
| 15:26.07 | mickeyl | given a large enough constant... |
| 15:27.38 | mickeyl | no, seriously, 1h for a bootstrap image is a reasonable guess |
| 15:27.57 | mickeyl | on a ~2Ghz / 1G RAM machine |
| 15:30.19 | mickeyl | ~curse TeX for lack of OpenType support |
| 15:30.21 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, TeX for lack of OpenType support ! |
| 15:30.32 | oxi | thanks :) |
| 15:30.48 | zecke | flees in my brain... that would not be nice... |
| 15:30.50 | koen | ~lart UP boxen |
| 15:30.58 | zecke | fleas even |
| 15:31.02 | mickeyl | uniprocessor or universal plug'n'play? |
| 15:31.05 | koen | uniprocessor sucks |
| 15:31.06 | mickeyl | ~lart acronymes |
| 15:31.11 | mickeyl | ah, indeed |
| 15:31.16 | mickeyl | hyperthreading is not much better |
| 15:31.21 | hrw|work | mickeyl: universal plug'n'play is uPnP |
| 15:31.31 | mickeyl | heh, right |
| 15:32.09 | hrw|work | heh.. why I dont want to make serial cable... |
| 15:32.21 | hrw|work | ~kill sharp for tcx3106 once again |
| 15:32.22 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized electron gun at sharp for tcx3106 once again |
| 15:44.59 | hrw|work | hmm.. openoffice see only few fonts on my system ;( |
| 15:45.33 | hrw|work | does not look into ~/.fonts/ ;( |
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| 16:17.34 | raduga | ~lart ibot |
| 16:17.49 | raduga | maybe not a good idea. |
| 16:18.06 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm... I thought ibot was smart enough to know when it was being larted |
| 16:18.09 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart yourself |
| 16:18.14 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 16:18.15 | koen | ~lart me |
| 16:18.17 | CosmicPenguin | stupid bod |
| 16:18.22 | CosmicPenguin | bot |
| 16:18.28 | hrw|work | ~rlart |
| 16:18.46 | raduga | ~lart the people who torment ibot |
| 16:18.53 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 16:18.53 | ibot | koen: thanks |
| 16:34.45 | _law_ | ade|desk: pH5 has added the missing patch file |
| 16:35.39 | pH5 | koen: i don't understand why glibc is built against linux-libc-headers? aren't those thought for userspace apps? |
| 16:36.15 | koen | linux-libc-headers are sanitized kernel headers |
| 16:36.22 | koen | and glibc does build against a kernel |
| 16:37.14 | pH5 | I was wondering because the arm EABI patches don't apply cleanly against linux-libc-headers svn. doesn't that mean it's missing some of the ABI stuff? |
| 16:38.18 | Cobelius | When I want to make a new Meta, thats depends von task-bootstrap and make an new Image, how do I add packages? |
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| 16:42.14 | koen | pH5: llh is somewhere between 2.6.12 and 2.6.14 |
| 16:43.13 | koen | if you have a recent kernel at hand you can apply those patches and copy linux/include/* to ${S}/include in llh |
| 16:43.20 | koen | that would give you eabi kernel headers |
| 16:43.26 | hrw|work | Cobelius: meta does not have to depend on task-bootstrap |
| 16:44.14 | pH5 | koen: ok, I'll try that |
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| 16:48.03 | zecke | re |
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| 16:51.05 | hrw|work | cu |
| 16:51.09 | hrw|work | have a nice weekend |
| 16:52.37 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r94163c7a... 10/packages/glibc/glibc-cvs-2.3.5/arm-no-hwcap.patch: glibc-cvs-2.3.5: add missing arm-no-hwcap.patch |
| 16:53.30 | zecke | pH5: thanks for the bitbake patch |
| 16:55.02 | koen | ah, the joys of 'apt-get remove foo' vs 'apt-get remove foo --purge' |
| 16:57.57 | pH5 | zecke: np. |
| 16:58.10 | pH5 | koen: my finger memory contains 'dpkg --purge' instead |
| 16:58.22 | zecke | cya |
| 17:23.55 | _law_ | any ideas how i can fix this? http://pastebin.com/466778 |
| 17:24.33 | koen | _law_: kick pH5 ;) |
| 17:24.47 | _law_ | hehe |
| 17:27.18 | pH5 | gnn |
| 17:27.27 | pH5 | seems today is the day of partial commits |
| 17:28.20 | pH5 | just a minute... |
| 17:30.24 | pH5 | _law_: fixed, hopefully. pull, update, reparse pcmcia-cs |
| 17:30.48 | _law_ | pH5 i?ll try |
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| 19:07.18 | joshua_ | I see my name highlighted |
| 19:07.28 | joshua_ | probably from ages ago |
| 19:07.30 | joshua_ | what's up? |
| 19:07.40 | koen | hrw|gone was curious about LAB |
| 19:07.56 | koen | it could be used to defeat the evil sharp bootloader |
| 19:08.12 | koen | he wonders how much hooks outside lab/ LAB needs |
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| 19:08.23 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 19:08.45 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 19:08.51 | CosmicPenguin | popup windows are crashing firefox 1.5 |
| 19:08.57 | CosmicPenguin | Thats annoyiung |
| 19:10.07 | joshua_ | hrw|gone, yo |
| 19:10.22 | joshua_ | LAB needs pretty much nothing. |
| 19:10.48 | joshua_ | it can be booted as a kernel on its own, or it can be booted with a full (built-in) bootstrap, located from 0x00000000 or 0xa0008000 |
| 19:11.50 | mreimer | LAB can solve a lot of problems; it's actually the reason the elections went so well in Iraq |
| 19:12.07 | koen | heh |
| 19:13.50 | CosmicPenguin | I hear it also reunited Van Halen |
| 19:14.45 | mreimer | yep |
| 19:33.46 | mreimer | is there an OE package for building busybox linked against uclibc? |
| 19:34.20 | koen | you'll need to make uclibc the PREFERRED_PROVIDER for virtual/libc iirc |
| 19:34.26 | mreimer | ah |
| 19:34.46 | mreimer | is there a way to link busybox statically? |
| 19:34.53 | koen | probably, yes |
| 19:35.07 | mreimer | just not in a .bb presently? ok |
| 19:35.11 | mreimer | thanks as always koen |
| 19:35.23 | koen | I bet you are thinking 'initrd' right now |
| 19:35.28 | mreimer | :-) |
| 19:35.48 | mreimer | actually, I'm trying initramfs because I don't have control of the bootloader (r1000) |
| 19:36.07 | koen | mips? |
| 19:36.14 | mreimer | iMXL |
| 19:36.44 | mreimer | (for tnb) |
| 19:36.55 | koen | that's the dragonball successor? |
| 19:36.59 | mreimer | yep |
| 19:38.26 | koen | a, it's regular arm920t |
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| 19:38.39 | mreimer | yep |
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| 21:02.51 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | This is not a distribution support channel | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | Intrested in LCA Embedded Miniconf 2006 - contact Mithro | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/47/4772.html |
| 21:07.47 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
| 21:07.52 | CosmicPenguin | almost time for a christmas party |
| 21:07.59 | koen | almost |
| 21:08.03 | CosmicPenguin | I need eggnog and spiced rum, stat! |
| 21:10.32 | koen | 'night zecke |
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| 22:05.12 | hhhcz | [17:18:31] ibot hits hhhcz with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 22:05.15 | hhhcz | :( |
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| 22:05.31 | koen | ah, that was an r(andom)lart |
| 22:05.40 | koen | you never know who's going to get hit |
| 22:05.59 | hhhcz | y saw that :) |
| 22:06.05 | hhhcz | -y+i |
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| 22:39.37 | BeBrA | how can I compile a "set" of packages. i want to select some packages and compile all them |
| 22:41.20 | pH5 | BeBrA: bitbake -i and then build foo; build bar; ... |
| 22:41.30 | pH5 | or you create a metapackage that depends on them |
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| 22:42.23 | Crofton | #ol |
| 22:44.06 | BeBrA | ok, I'll try after crosscompiler compilation |
| 22:44.35 | koen | or bitbake foo bar baz bal |
| 22:45.29 | pH5 | ah right, forgot about that. |
| 22:45.33 | pH5 | I always use bitbake -i in case something happens. |
| 22:45.39 | pH5 | (and something always happens) |
| 22:45.44 | BeBrA | :) |
| 22:46.35 | BeBrA | i need als oa custom kernel. Should I add mine conf on packages/linux and create .bb file? |
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| 23:43.26 | Minase | whee. made my first OE/Familiar package. that was much easier than i was expecting |
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