| 00:00.11 | *** join/#oe Timelord0 (n=TL@66.84.189.72) |
| 00:02.07 | *** join/#oe subdue (n=chopstix@198-79-109-131.hi.net) |
| 00:38.12 | *** join/#oe Geo_KM (n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com) |
| 00:41.41 | *** join/#oe Crofton|770 (n=balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net) |
| 00:57.46 | *** join/#oe noclouds (n=mhfan@60.166.32.16) |
| 00:58.38 | *** join/#oe Cwiiis (n=cwiiis@host86-134-24-43.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 01:02.16 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@avenger.brainfood.com) |
| 01:30.02 | *** join/#oe idealm (n=ideal@222.66.46.90) |
| 01:34.13 | *** join/#oe LordVan (n=lordvan@gentoo/developer/LordVan) |
| 01:55.20 | *** join/#oe yann (n=dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 02:05.40 | *** join/#oe Crofton|770 (n=balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net) |
| 02:12.44 | *** join/#oe hufnus (n=slonsiki@DSL135-071.LABridge.com) |
| 02:19.39 | *** join/#oe jamey (n=jamey@c-65-96-203-230.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:35.11 | *** join/#oe Richard41 (n=rh@203.8.2.80) |
| 02:36.31 | *** join/#oe Richard48 (n=user@203.8.2.22) |
| 02:39.01 | Richard48 | hello all |
| 02:41.49 | *** part/#oe Richard41 (n=rh@203.8.2.80) |
| 02:43.33 | *** part/#oe Richard48 (n=user@203.8.2.22) |
| 02:49.23 | *** join/#oe oyo (n=oe@221.220.238.38) |
| 03:40.55 | *** join/#oe oyo (n=oe@221.220.238.38) |
| 04:14.52 | *** join/#oe marcan (n=marcanso@160.10.7.145) |
| 04:26.28 | *** join/#oe ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@c-67-171-124-6.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | +1 channel to autojoin |
| 04:27.02 | ScytheBlade1 | so, kergoth, go on ;) |
| 04:28.11 | kergoth | right, so, the idea is, you run 'bitbake nano' and it builds you nano binary packages for use on the device. or whatever else. or entire root filesystems and flash images. obeying package interdependencies, and everything is highly granular |
| 04:28.21 | kergoth | docs and manuals and development files are all automatically split out into seperate packages |
| 04:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 04:29.00 | kergoth | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/SuccesStories |
| 04:29.09 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, the one link I didn't clock |
| 04:29.11 | ScytheBlade1 | *clickj |
| 04:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ** :P |
| 04:29.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | OpenZaurus built with OE? Not bad, I didn't know that |
| 04:30.44 | kergoth | I founded both OZ and OE |
| 04:30.49 | kergoth | though i'm not involved with either anymore |
| 04:31.08 | kergoth | i've got 3 or 4 zauruses in my closet collecting dust now |
| 04:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course, I had to crack my 5600 screen a few months after they stopped US retail |
| 04:31.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:31.17 | kergoth | aw |
| 04:31.23 | kergoth | one of mine is cracked too |
| 04:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding |
| 04:31.34 | kergoth | actually, i've cracked the ts digitizer on a total of 3 units to date |
| 04:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It's more to repair the sucker than to buy a new one |
| 04:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm. well lemme tell you a bit about my setup, and why I picked this in specific |
| 04:32.34 | kergoth | yeah, problem is you have to replace the whole lcd/digitizer unit, since its all sealed up and everything |
| 04:32.38 | kergoth | ah well |
| 04:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a little script that downloads a fun gentoo stage1 tarball, and builds the system from the base up with a ream of options to reduce size (-Os, noman, etc.) |
| 04:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It also builds binpackages of them, and then I host them on HTTP so I don't have to re-compile them later ;) |
| 04:33.30 | ScytheBlade1 | The gentoo people gave me really really funny looks when I asked why my stage1 install with binpackages was breaking ;) |
| 04:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The big reason why I'm doing this is hardware support - I have yet to find something that'll let me install what I want, really really defined |
| 04:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | This isn't a solve-all - my script rm's a few hundred megs and whatnot afterwards |
| 04:34.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But it works, well |
| 04:35.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Another reason is the kernel support - I've got 2 wifi cards in this box, and they each need their own drivers that aren't in the kernel tree |
| 04:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (ipw2200 and madwifi) |
| 04:36.25 | kergoth | you should definately take a look at oe. do a build for a zaurus for example for a bootstrap image (fairly minimal rootfs) |
| 04:36.30 | kergoth | poke around at the config files |
| 04:36.32 | kergoth | see what you think |
| 04:36.40 | kergoth | might be more maintainable than your script |
| 04:36.42 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm - just how well defined is OE? If I wanted a 100% 'full' CLI system over SSH to be built with this, how effective (disk space size wise) would it be? |
| 04:36.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, my script isn't bad |
| 04:36.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I personally have taken a liking to it ;) |
| 04:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But this is suddenly tempting |
| 04:37.00 | kergoth | you can define a list of binary packages to go into the rootfs |
| 04:37.07 | kergoth | and each source package emits a number of highly granular ones |
| 04:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | How does it do the cross compile? Also, does it just build the userland stuff, or a kernel of sorts also? |
| 04:37.23 | kergoth | there are preset groupings, like bootstrap, opie, gpe, xfce, etc |
| 04:37.41 | kergoth | it builds itself a crosscompiler, and if packages it builds needs a kernel, and one is in the tree for the target machine, it builds that |
| 04:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I cheated for the cross compile (build for i486 on an i686) |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | system_utsname.machine[1] = UNAME_DUMB_STEPPING; |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | return( 0 ); |
| 04:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | } |
| 04:38.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:38.49 | ScytheBlade1 | where UNAME_DUMB_STEPPING = 4 |
| 04:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | magically, my i686 is an i486! |
| 04:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | But no, this is suddenly very very tempting |
| 04:39.52 | kergoth | the best part about it is the collaboration |
| 04:39.58 | kergoth | you've got countless people on countless projects sharing the repo |
| 04:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 04:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | all for embedded |
| 04:40.25 | kergoth | the embedded gentoo folks have done some good work, but portage really isnt up to par atm |
| 04:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | How well would it support a read-only / out of the box? I had to put a little work into getting that to work (mount -n -t tmpfs tmpfs /var; mkdir /var/{....,..,.,,} -p |
| 04:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (every time on boot) |
| 04:41.30 | kergoth | there are a few ways of implementing it |
| 04:41.38 | kergoth | there's a package to use a unionfs root filesystem |
| 04:41.43 | kergoth | but i'm not sure the state of unionfs atm |
| 04:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, no, bad idea with 64MB of RAM and that's it |
| 04:41.55 | kergoth | (it lets you overlay filesystems, like ramfs on top of your read only /, and apps can write anywhere there) |
| 04:42.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I've used unionfs - just too much possibility to run out of RAM |
| 04:42.14 | kergoth | if your apps are writing to / that much, you've got other issues :) |
| 04:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Well they're not, just /var ;) |
| 04:42.26 | kergoth | but the oe distro does a ramfs /dev, /var, and /tmp out of the box |
| 04:42.27 | ScytheBlade1 | pid files and such |
| 04:42.29 | kergoth | so those arent an issue |
| 04:42.48 | kergoth | its things like /etc that you should use unionfs or a bind mount solution for |
| 04:43.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 04:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | `sbuild patch unionfs` is one of my script commands, to patch unionfs into the current kernel source that I'm working with |
| 04:43.54 | kergoth | cool. oe builds out of tree, iirc |
| 04:44.14 | ScytheBlade1 | This is suddenly very tempting |
| 04:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Does it handle bootloader at all? (In all honesty, I'd rather it not) |
| 04:44.33 | kergoth | give it a try. follow the instructions in GettingStarted |
| 04:44.37 | kergoth | today i dont think any are in the repo |
| 04:44.51 | kergoth | i always planned on adding u-boot |
| 04:45.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I've just used lilo |
| 04:45.30 | kergoth | u-boot is an ARM arch thing |
| 04:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ah k, so it's not going to apply in my case |
| 04:48.24 | *** join/#oe DrBoB (n=DrBoB@0-2pool208-157.nas50.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 04:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | how big is the OE repo? |
| 04:51.25 | kergoth | hmm, i havent messed with it in a while. not sure. |
| 04:51.38 | kergoth | the monotone database is big, due to all the history in source control |
| 04:51.52 | kergoth | an exported repo must be around a hundred megs i'd think, mostly in patches to upstream sources |
| 04:51.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a 36GB /home, which is why I ask ;) |
| 04:51.57 | kergoth | but i dunno, i've been out of it for a while |
| 04:52.01 | kergoth | oh |
| 04:52.05 | kergoth | OE downloads the sources it needs from upstream |
| 04:52.10 | kergoth | the oe repo is just metadata |
| 04:52.13 | kergoth | whats where |
| 04:52.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ah k |
| 04:52.19 | kergoth | the size of a bulid depends on what you're doing |
| 04:52.27 | kergoth | it can push 30 gigs or more if you build every package we've got |
| 04:52.32 | kergoth | or just 3-4 in a bootstrap build |
| 04:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's fine, I was just wondering if your repo would magically take the last 5GB I've got here |
| 04:53.01 | kergoth | ah |
| 04:53.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:56.01 | ScytheBlade1 | The biggest reason I went with my nice script is because all of the other pre-built stuff either A) didn't support my hardware, B) I couldn't really access (ssh), or C) just plain sucked |
| 04:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | This, though, could 'just work' |
| 05:03.05 | emte | a default build is ~ 8Gb still i belive |
| 05:04.11 | emte | image build* |
| 05:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I just made some space on the drive |
| 05:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got 19GB now |
| 05:25.21 | *** join/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.97) |
| 05:27.00 | *** part/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.97) |
| 05:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | monotone likes to take it's time to compile |
| 05:42.04 | CSMan | grab a prebuilt binary |
| 05:42.17 | kergoth | he runs gentoo :) |
| 05:42.23 | kergoth | silly compiling freaks ;) |
| 05:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 05:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Dual AMD 2600+ MPs and 4GB of RAM |
| 05:42.52 | CSMan | oh. consumer resource addicts |
| 05:42.54 | ScytheBlade1 | What can I say? :) |
| 05:43.01 | kergoth | mm, nice |
| 05:43.06 | CSMan | he must go shopping 3 times a month |
| 05:43.10 | kergoth | i'm on a single amd64 shuttle xpc atm |
| 05:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I've noticed |
| 05:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | CTCP VERSION is a fun command ;) |
| 05:43.35 | kergoth | indeed it is |
| 05:43.49 | CSMan | no better than nmap -A -P0 =) |
| 05:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 05:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | good ol' -A |
| 05:46.36 | CSMan | CPU: Pentium/P55C (233.22-MHz 586-class CPU) <o/ |
| 05:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe, not bad ;) |
| 05:47.11 | CSMan | it's a Pentium |
| 05:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | [OS] Gentoo Base System 1.12.0_pre11; Kernel 2.6.13 :: [Uptime] 3 days, 5:39 :: [CPU] 2-AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2600+ @ 2134MHz (256 KB) (86% idle) :: [Memory] 1657M Used, 3040M Total (45% Free) :: [Disk] 333.32G Used, 582.16G Total (43% Free) :: [Network] Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet |
| 05:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ |
| 05:47.47 | ScytheBlade1 | 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (eth0*) (Total: 3.26G In, 2.77G Out) |
| 05:48.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a PII next to me with a dead HD |
| 05:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | louder than most vacuums due to fans |
| 05:48.40 | *** join/#oe Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp62-196.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 05:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Put it this way: to run gentoo, you need a machine like that ;) |
| 05:55.36 | CSMan | to run freebsd, you can make it with a pentium classic. =) |
| 05:55.54 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 05:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I <3 my gentoo though |
| 05:56.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It honestly is faster than any other disto out there, and I've tried them all |
| 05:56.34 | kergoth | makes sense, given it can optimize for the box |
| 05:56.48 | kergoth | i want a distro thats a combination of debian and gentoo |
| 05:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | binary packages I take it? |
| 05:57.08 | kergoth | bunch of the cool debian distributionisms like /etc/network/interfaces, and better binariy package handling, combined with a build infrastructure like portage |
| 05:57.19 | kergoth | my distro on my desktop is always a perverse amolgamation of distros |
| 05:57.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that'd require some hacking to get working |
| 05:58.09 | kergoth | thats an understatement |
| 05:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Though, gentoo has gotten better at network config |
| 05:58.18 | kergoth | i thought about building my desktop distro with oe, then using oe in it to build its packages |
| 05:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | config_eth0=( "dhcp" ) |
| 05:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | config_eth1=( "10.99.99.24 netmask 255.255.255.0" ) |
| 05:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | config_eth2=( "dhcp" ) |
| 05:58.28 | kergoth | since its portage-like, and can emit .deb's, basically |
| 05:58.38 | kergoth | ah cool, thats a definate improvement |
| 05:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 05:58.47 | ScytheBlade1 | And you can go very very detailed if needed |
| 05:58.55 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll also do needed wireless options, etc. etc. etc. |
| 05:58.57 | kergoth | how extensible is it, though? |
| 05:59.02 | kergoth | can any arbitrary package inject new options? |
| 05:59.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm inclined to say no, and then ask why you'd need to |
| 05:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lemme link this file, sec |
| 05:59.45 | kergoth | flexibility and extensibility. |
| 05:59.59 | kergoth | i can make a debian package to add anything to it. and often do. |
| 06:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.brantleyonline.com/files/linux/net.example <-- full list of network-specific config options |
| 06:00.44 | kergoth | i dont like arbitrary limitations on flexibility. its one of my pet peeves |
| 06:00.54 | kergoth | so saying oh this supports wireless is well and good, but not optimal |
| 06:01.13 | ScytheBlade1 | This is disturbingly flexible, in all honesty |
| 06:01.19 | ScytheBlade1 | (imo) |
| 06:01.22 | kergoth | but not extensible. |
| 06:01.33 | ScytheBlade1 | What would you be adding to it? |
| 06:01.39 | kergoth | check out interfaces some time, and the variety of packages that add functionality to it |
| 06:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I need to apparently |
| 06:02.25 | kergoth | bridging, wireless, not to mention the more esoteric packages that add other things, like zeroconf configuration, easy wireless configuration changes based on any arbitrary parameter (pinging a gateway, listing nearby access points, etc) |
| 06:02.34 | kergoth | thats off the top of my head |
| 06:02.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:02.51 | ScytheBlade1 | check, check, not there akaik, check |
| 06:04.16 | ScytheBlade1 | but yeah, I'll need to poke around apparently |
| 06:04.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:04.52 | kergoth | i've found that gentoo tends to have these really great innovative ideas |
| 06:04.58 | kergoth | but the implemenations leave a great deal to be desired |
| 06:05.11 | kergoth | whereas debian doesnt do nearly as much cool stuff, but what they do tends to be pretty solid |
| 06:05.17 | kergoth | need a balance between the two |
| 06:05.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I can see that, yeah |
| 06:05.32 | ScytheBlade1 | My experience with debian is minimal, but...eh |
| 06:05.50 | kergoth | try ubuntu in vmware or something, good contrasting experience |
| 06:05.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 06:06.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ubuntu? I'll pass, kthx |
| 06:06.08 | kergoth | ubuntu is debian. |
| 06:06.10 | kergoth | but with recent packages |
| 06:06.11 | *** join/#oe oyo (n=oe@222.129.102.240) |
| 06:06.20 | kergoth | even the installer is nearly identical |
| 06:06.47 | kergoth | just type 'expert' at the grub prompt when installing and it drops in a 30 meg base install, lets you apt-get install the rest of the system |
| 06:06.52 | kergoth | no fancy gnome out of the box that way |
| 06:06.56 | kergoth | i do that, then install xfce |
| 06:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but just the whole ubuntu mantra scares me. 'For the people'... which in all honesty, I just read and think 'dumbed down and hard to configure via CLI without breaking the GUI tools' |
| 06:07.29 | kergoth | that isnt the case though. its debian, taken and refined, without taking away any of the power |
| 06:07.38 | kergoth | imho of course |
| 06:07.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. They need a change in advertising then ;) |
| 06:07.50 | kergoth | could very well be :) |
| 06:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | do you know I can PXE boot the installer at all? |
| 06:08.17 | ScytheBlade1 | do you have any experience in that realm? |
| 06:08.23 | kergoth | fraid not, x86 is a weak point for me, and pxe more so |
| 06:08.34 | kergoth | most x86 builds in oe i do are for uml/colinux |
| 06:08.48 | kergoth | x86 boot stuff is just voodoo to me :) |
| 06:08.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin would be helpful though |
| 06:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I created #pxe, a nice wiki, and documented how to install several things over PXE, plus run knoppix over PXE without having knoppix running on a host machine ;) |
| 06:09.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a PXE obsessive freak, netbooting >>>>>> burning CDs ;) |
| 06:10.09 | kergoth | nifty |
| 06:10.13 | kergoth | i'll have to check it out |
| 06:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I've written it in plain english, should be easy enough for most anyone to figure out |
| 06:11.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus, it's just plain useful to plug in a laptop to a desktop with a crossover cable - boot up the PC and tada have knoppix running on it, less CD |
| 06:11.36 | kergoth | that is pretty cool |
| 06:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | if you did any x86 embedded stuff, it's useful there too - just reboot the device in question time and time again, no need to re-write media |
| 06:14.19 | ScytheBlade1 | meh, time to sleep. I have a feeling that at this rate (very few kB/sec) the initial sync will indeed take days |
| 06:16.50 | kergoth | night |
| 06:19.39 | *** part/#oe DrBoB (n=DrBoB@0-2pool208-157.nas50.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 06:56.58 | *** join/#oe xtmdster (i=Regina_@adsl-69-234-56-198.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 07:12.08 | *** join/#oe luke-jr_ (n=luke-jr@user-0c938qu.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 07:46.14 | *** join/#oe alan|home (n=alan@ARouen-152-1-70-69.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:46.22 | *** join/#oe pezi (n=kvirc@smarty.soft.uni-linz.ac.at) |
| 07:57.08 | *** join/#oe piku (n=piku@141.151.88.148) |
| 08:41.12 | *** join/#oe darkschneider (n=gab@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:56.40 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 08:56.46 | _guillermo | morning all |
| 08:57.04 | Bernardo | RP: sd almost works |
| 08:57.52 | Bernardo | I can acess it, copy files, etc, but after some time it locks up, and a attempt to access it just locks the program/konsole |
| 08:57.52 | *** join/#oe benlau (n=benlau@143.89.135.159) |
| 08:58.40 | *** join/#oe XorA (n=ggg@212.20.245.206) |
| 08:58.49 | Bernardo | hrw|gone: did you manage to fix your wifi problems? |
| 08:58.58 | XorA | morning |
| 08:59.02 | Bernardo | hi XorA |
| 09:00.36 | _guillermo | is it normal that the first time I pull a oe .dev branch, the last revs take forever? it takes minutes for each rev, and the machine is a xeon |
| 09:01.26 | Bernardo | _guillermo: monotone isn't the fastest out there |
| 09:01.42 | Bernardo | you can/should download the nightly database and start from there |
| 09:01.56 | _guillermo | I know but I don't know if that's normal, I did it before and I thought it was not that bad |
| 09:02.35 | _guillermo | ok, now that I'm thinking... maybe that's what I actually did |
| 09:10.09 | *** join/#oe koen (n=koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 09:11.25 | RP | morning all |
| 09:11.29 | do13 | mornig all |
| 09:11.34 | RP | Bernardo|away: Which kernel is that? |
| 09:11.50 | do13 | hi richard |
| 09:12.11 | lardman|work | morning all |
| 09:13.54 | *** join/#oe lazy_marmot (n=lazy_mar@host-62-245-231-14.customer.m-online.net) |
| 09:14.28 | *** join/#oe bluebugs (n=cedric@LAubervilliers-151-11-32-8.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:15.17 | *** join/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.254) |
| 09:15.46 | *** join/#oe gints (n=gints@195.244.141.102) |
| 09:16.32 | *** part/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.254) |
| 09:24.47 | *** join/#oe Timelord (n=TL@66.84.189.72) |
| 09:28.09 | *** join/#oe [lala] (n=lala@139.12.1.252) |
| 09:30.28 | *** join/#oe _law_ (n=law@mail.stiftadmont.at) |
| 09:32.51 | *** join/#oe ade|desk (n=adavey@194.200.143.249) |
| 09:43.31 | *** join/#oe Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp62-196.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 09:44.01 | *** join/#oe molivier (n=mac@f01m-62-34-84-133.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 09:44.12 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:44.29 | RP | hi hrw|work |
| 09:44.49 | hrw|work | Bernardo|away: looks like my wifi card has borken antenna so can work only as 1Mbps |
| 09:45.05 | koen | the images in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ shouldn't suffer from the KERNEL_VERSION thing anymore |
| 09:45.33 | hrw|work | koen: CONF_KERNEL_VERSION maybe? |
| 09:45.59 | koen | I just made it ZKERNEL_VSERION since only zaurus machines use it |
| 09:46.29 | hrw|work | I see |
| 09:46.33 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:46.39 | koen | hey ade|desk |
| 09:47.53 | *** join/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.254) |
| 09:48.51 | *** part/#oe Jenna (n=cherryRe@209.8.233.254) |
| 09:56.28 | ade|desk | koen: did you push the zkernel_version change ? |
| 09:56.43 | koen | to the releasebranch, yes |
| 09:57.04 | ade|desk | but not dev :( |
| 09:57.07 | koen | no |
| 09:57.12 | ade|desk | fair enough |
| 09:57.29 | koen | I'm still waiting for a conclusion to the discussion we had about it months ago |
| 09:57.35 | ade|desk | ah |
| 09:58.37 | *** join/#oe CosmicPenguin (n=nobody@aus-ext-proxy01.amd.com) |
| 09:58.42 | ade|desk | i think that local conf should run with kernel_series imho |
| 09:59.39 | koen | suggest it to bug 413 |
| 09:59.42 | koen | ehm |
| 09:59.45 | koen | bug 513 |
| 09:59.57 | RP | I don't think there was ever a solution proposed that covered all the issues... |
| 10:01.19 | *** join/#oe zinosat (n=Davide@adsl-240-86.38-151.net24.it) |
| 10:03.45 | ade|desk | RP: what are all the issues? |
| 10:05.49 | RP | ade|desk: good question. I'm not sure I can remember anymore... |
| 10:06.21 | RP | Something like whether to use include or override syntax. If using overrides, dots are a bad idea so the variable becomes much less readable. We then have the naming conflict |
| 10:06.38 | ade|desk | if we make the var name more generic it would allow for future systems other than Zs and could be used for 2.7 etc kernels in the distant future |
| 10:08.47 | ade|desk | add comment to # 513 |
| 10:08.55 | hrw|work | CONF_KERNEL_VERSION |
| 10:08.55 | ade|desk | s/add/added |
| 10:10.19 | RP | koen: How are the ipaqs handling this at the moment? |
| 10:10.28 | RP | I thought they used linux24 and linux26? |
| 10:10.43 | *** join/#oe noclouds (n=mhfan@60.166.32.16) |
| 10:14.32 | Bernardo | RP: kernel 2.6.14+2.6.15-rc2-r4 |
| 10:15.16 | koen | RP: they add KERNEL to overrides and use kernel24 and kernel26 as the value for the override |
| 10:15.27 | Bernardo | hrw|work: what I get is that I need to set wifi settings to any ssid and no wep, insert the card (sandisk connect) and then change the settings to my ssid and wep key |
| 10:15.34 | koen | we agreed on using overrides, but not on the name or the value |
| 10:15.52 | RP | koen: Is there an example of a machine still doing that in OE? |
| 10:16.31 | Bernardo | hrw|work: like that I can access my home wifi (smc 2834wbr v.2) every time |
| 10:16.33 | koen | h3600.conf, h3900.conf and simpad.conf |
| 10:16.34 | hrw|work | Bernardo: my card works fine except speed |
| 10:16.39 | RP | Bernardo: Ok, I'm only aware of one SD issue known in mainline and the moment and this doesn't sound like it. Someone's going to have to debug this I guess... |
| 10:17.08 | Bernardo | ok, this is strange, because the card works well at first |
| 10:17.12 | RP | koen: They use kernel_kernel24 now which is why my grep didn't find it |
| 10:17.38 | Bernardo | then (I'll have to see if it is after suspend) it suddenly locks every process trying to access it |
| 10:18.34 | Bernardo | I do get i2c timeouts when resuming |
| 10:20.30 | RP | i2c shouldn't affect SD... |
| 10:20.32 | Bernardo | and just now got the worst lock up ever on my akita - I never had to remove the battery to unlock it before |
| 10:21.09 | RP | It could be -rc2 - I know that release causes problems on desktops... |
| 10:21.18 | ade|desk | Bernardo: i lose the bl when i resume my akita |
| 10:21.23 | Bernardo | it's interesting seeing the mail led scintilating with every line on the console, though |
| 10:21.33 | Bernardo | ade|desk: the battery led? |
| 10:21.41 | ade|desk | back light |
| 10:22.20 | Bernardo | ade|desk: here it takes a few secs (the i2c timeout?) but turns on eventually |
| 10:22.59 | Bernardo | I had cacko on it for some time, and I had to use the intensity function keys from time to time, as it would turn the bl out sometimes |
| 10:23.21 | ade|desk | Bernardo: just turned the device on from eariler, no back light still :( |
| 10:23.32 | Bernardo | kernel 2.6? |
| 10:23.39 | RP | The backlight is controlled by i2c |
| 10:23.41 | ade|desk | 2.6.15-rc2 |
| 10:24.02 | Bernardo | ade|desk: and if you plug it in, does it turn on? |
| 10:24.36 | RP | When you do get back into it, have a look at dmesg |
| 10:24.52 | RP | See if it says anything about fatal battery errors |
| 10:26.17 | Bernardo | most of the dmesg log gets overwritten with "empty flash at ..." errors |
| 10:27.10 | RP | koen: Having looked over the Zaurus 2.6 and 2.4 config files, I think I'm convinced that includes are going to be a lot neater than overrides. I think we should move all the none machine files out the machine directory and into seperate one so the machine targets are clear and change the name of the variable |
| 10:27.17 | RP | Bernardo: That will only be at bootup |
| 10:27.19 | Bernardo | sd gets detected properly - mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 SD 988160KiB |
| 10:28.03 | RP | Bernardo: I was just wondering if there were messages from over the suspend/resume |
| 10:28.11 | Bernardo | ah, for ade |
| 10:28.38 | Bernardo | I'll see now if the lockups I get using sd are after suspend |
| 10:28.40 | koen | RP: heh, we already agreed that includes should go |
| 10:28.59 | RP | koen: They look a lot neater than I remember |
| 10:29.48 | *** join/#oe greentux (n=m@ip-217-18-177-18.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 10:29.49 | koen | too much duplication and useless clutter |
| 10:30.01 | koen | that was the reaction the last time |
| 10:30.07 | RP | koen: What do they duplicate exactly? |
| 10:31.12 | greentux | morning @all |
| 10:31.15 | RP | Its not useless clutter as they have a use ;-) |
| 10:31.18 | RP | morning greentux |
| 10:31.38 | greentux | hrw|work: recieved anything? |
| 10:32.02 | hrw|work | greentux: postmail? not yet |
| 10:32.05 | koen | RP: handhelds-common for example |
| 10:32.30 | greentux | hrw|work: ok, today or tom |
| 10:32.52 | hrw|work | greentux: ok - will check mailbox |
| 10:33.06 | greentux | snailbox |
| 10:33.20 | RP | koen: Most include handheld-common? |
| 10:33.21 | hrw|work | greentux: that one I mean |
| 10:33.22 | hrw|work | t |
| 10:33.49 | koen | RP: see the 2.6 clamshell file |
| 10:35.21 | Bernardo | ade|desk: ok, I'm getting the same |
| 10:35.31 | Bernardo | ade|desk: did you suspend using the power button? |
| 10:36.16 | Bernardo | ade|desk: sorry, waking up now, but into a console |
| 10:36.22 | RP | koen: It includes handhelds-common so either this is unneeded or there is some problem with the code in hh-common for 2.6. That isn't a reason to prefer include or override syntax though |
| 10:36.24 | Bernardo | ade|desk: with i2c output |
| 10:36.40 | Bernardo | daughter woke up, have to run |
| 10:37.22 | *** join/#oe dkey (i=nobody@193.170.48.236) |
| 10:39.22 | RP | koen: Ther difference is hh-common provides an RRECOMMENDS whereas zaurus-clamshell provides DEPENDS |
| 10:44.26 | hrw|work | basically we need one common for all PDA and basic machine confs which define features and kernel stuff |
| 10:45.01 | hrw|work | USE_BT = 1/0, USE_WIFI, USE_PCMCIA, USE_ALSA etc or USE = "network/bt network/wifi sound/alsa" |
| 10:45.45 | koen | hrw|work: viewmtn 0.5 has a manifest browser: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/manifest.psp?id=79a998fb2cba55ee5a3451a77bcdc934c1ed2d8a&path=conf |
| 10:46.20 | hrw|work | nice |
| 10:47.06 | RP | Anyone have a suggestion for the pathname for all the machine include files (to split them from the actual machine conf files)? |
| 10:47.13 | hrw|work | koen: if your viewmtn will work then I will get one more reason to sigh about bk times |
| 10:47.38 | hrw|work | conf/machine/includes/ |
| 10:47.45 | koen | I upgraded to monotone 0.24, so it should be more stable |
| 10:48.00 | koen | it will only block when someone is accessing the db |
| 10:48.32 | *** join/#oe france_ (n=france@pool-141-154-227-84.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 10:49.18 | hrw|work | koen: vi css, add "color:black" into "body" part |
| 10:50.06 | koen | done |
| 10:50.30 | hrw|work | gracias |
| 10:51.22 | RP | The database spends a lot of time locked :-/ |
| 10:52.25 | hrw|work | hmm.. greentux sent card so I should build new distro for using |
| 10:52.54 | hrw|work | RP: you use gcc 3.4 or gcc 4.0 based rootfs? |
| 10:53.02 | RP | hrw|work: 3.4 |
| 10:53.04 | koen | do we want viewmtn to be realtime or semi realtime? |
| 10:53.34 | ade|desk | sorry folks, had to pop out for a bit |
| 10:53.38 | RP | koen: If semi-realtime running off a separate db would resolve most of the locking issues, it might be an idea |
| 10:54.10 | RP | hrw|work: Specifically I still seem to use 3.4.3 |
| 10:55.32 | ade|desk | is there a userland thing i can do to get the back light up again, i can't see what i am doing to give it network access so no ssh to it atm |
| 10:56.07 | ade|desk | Bernardo|away: pluging in AC doesn't help |
| 10:56.10 | RP | ade|desk: echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/brightness |
| 10:56.19 | koen | RP: It's now using the snapshot db, which is updated via cron every hour |
| 10:56.40 | koen | (as long as vanille is up, that is |
| 10:56.49 | RP | koen: That sounds better |
| 10:57.31 | *** join/#oe zecke (n=ich@88.134.0.77) |
| 10:58.04 | ade|desk | RP: nope didn't work :( |
| 10:58.36 | RP | ade|desk: Can you dmesg > somefile before you reboot so we can see any error messages? |
| 10:59.49 | ade|desk | lets see |
| 11:01.17 | ade|desk | rebooting... |
| 11:01.32 | ade|desk | RP: what id the empty flash crap about ? |
| 11:01.37 | ade|desk | s/id/is |
| 11:02.10 | RP | ade|desk: Just ignore it |
| 11:02.28 | ade|desk | known error ? |
| 11:02.52 | hrw|work | ignorable error |
| 11:03.01 | koen | standard jffs2 verbosity |
| 11:03.35 | RP | ade|desk: Annoying warning |
| 11:07.21 | ade|desk | bbl, training |
| 11:08.20 | *** join/#oe schurig (n=schurig@p54B289C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.30 | hrw|work | hi schurig |
| 11:08.35 | schurig | hi |
| 11:10.36 | schurig | hrw|work: do you know if gcc 4.0.2 already stable enought for PXA? |
| 11:10.56 | hrw|work | schurig: RP told that his image atleast boots |
| 11:11.20 | schurig | hehe, I guess I'll get a ton of errors when I compile Qt/E 3.x with gcc 4.0.2 ... |
| 11:11.31 | schurig | hrw|work: and, it is noticable faster? |
| 11:11.35 | hrw|work | schurig: how stable it is I will check on days - I plan to boot from SD to rootfs/gcc4 |
| 11:12.17 | hrw|work | schurig: qt/e 'any version' and gcc newer then 2.95 is like calling for problems |
| 11:12.42 | schurig | hrw|work: I'm using Qt/3 and gcc 3.x for more than a year |
| 11:12.59 | hrw|work | schurig: I know - how many patches added to get it build? |
| 11:13.32 | RP | schurig: I did some benchmarking and gcc 4.0 performed better than/comparable to 3.4 |
| 11:13.42 | hrw|work | RP: something for you: |
| 11:13.43 | hrw|work | | In file included from arch/arm/mach-pxa/corgi.c:46: |
| 11:13.44 | hrw|work | | arch/arm/mach-pxa/sharpsl.h:57: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| 11:13.44 | hrw|work | | arch/arm/mach-pxa/sharpsl.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| 11:13.52 | RP | 3.3 sometimes came out faster |
| 11:14.12 | RP | schurig: I was only using a basic bootstrap with an xserver |
| 11:14.38 | hrw|work | RP: thats linux-openzaurus 2.6.15-rc2-r4 with gcc 4.0.2 |
| 11:14.49 | RP | hrw|work: This is with 2.6.15-rc2? |
| 11:15.02 | RP | ah, gcc 4.0.2 :-/ |
| 11:15.07 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.com/452274 |
| 11:16.10 | zecke | koen: isn't fakeroot working? |
| 11:16.31 | koen | zecke: no idea, I just get those error messages when trying to build fuse |
| 11:16.42 | hrw|work | RP: any plan to fix it? or do we end with setting GCC_FOR_KERNEL or how it is called? |
| 11:18.26 | RP | hrw|work: You need to add an #include <asm/hardware/sharp_pm.h> to corgi.c at a guess |
| 11:19.42 | hrw|work | will check |
| 11:20.18 | schurig | hrw|work: I'm using gcc-3.4.3 and no patch for QtE 3.3.4 |
| 11:20.48 | hrw|work | atleast one version which TT did good |
| 11:20.49 | schurig | RP: sounds good :-) |
| 11:21.14 | schurig | hrw|work: however, there was once a patch somewhere, I have an uncommented line: |
| 11:21.17 | schurig | # For gcc-3.4.2 environments: |
| 11:21.17 | schurig | #SRC_URI += "file://gcc3.4.patch;patch=1" |
| 11:22.30 | schurig | but for me it worked without this |
| 11:22.58 | zecke | schurig: no aliasing problems in the gfx code? (no compile issues though) |
| 11:23.16 | zecke | schurig: did QtE 3 improve in any way since QTE3.0? |
| 11:23.45 | schurig | zecke: our apps all draw perfectly, not sure what you mean with "aliasing problems" |
| 11:24.07 | lrg | greentux: I've now faxed the receipt for you. Did you get it ok ? |
| 11:24.40 | schurig | zecke: Qt/E 3.x improved only the way normal Qt 3.x improved, no special improvements for embedded things, e.g. no /dev/input/eventX handling anywhere in Qt/E 3.x |
| 11:24.56 | greentux | lrg: thanks :) did they wrote a date for sending back? |
| 11:25.16 | lrg | greentux: end of Feb 2006 |
| 11:25.56 | schurig | zecke: AFAIK Qt/E 2.x got some improvements because of Opie/QTopia. I don't really know what those improvements where, but for our apps Qt/E 3.x worked fine |
| 11:26.01 | RP | morning lrg |
| 11:26.08 | greentux | lrg: ok, that was my info too |
| 11:26.14 | lrg | morning RP |
| 11:27.06 | zecke | schurig: some speed improvements (application start), some robustness changes |
| 11:27.27 | hrw|work | RP: funny namespacing is in corgi.c... corgi_pm_machinfo use spitz_battery_levels_noac ;) |
| 11:27.29 | zecke | schurig: but they used to ship QtE with a security flawed freetype, jpeg,png, zlib and didn't dare to update |
| 11:27.56 | schurig | zecke: I'm using system JPEG & ZLIB and no freetype |
| 11:28.34 | *** join/#oe bam_ (n=bam@pool-71-108-67-15.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 11:30.23 | zecke | schurig: right, good choiche |
| 11:31.32 | zecke | schurig: where you ever asked to implement suspend to flash? |
| 11:32.08 | schurig | zecke: no, not. Would be impossible. We have 128 MB SDRAM, but only 32 MB Flash. |
| 11:32.53 | schurig | zecke: but we have Suspend to RAM, where (with a full battery) we last more than three months. And even when you remove the battery (e.g. to switch it), we can keep the RAM for some days. |
| 11:33.09 | schurig | s/switch/replace/ |
| 11:33.19 | RP | hrw|work: I know. Calling it corgi_battery would be equally confusing and various other names cause other issues so I gave up in the end :) |
| 11:33.57 | schurig | zecke: also, even just writing 32 MB to the flash takes it's time. Could be the case that a reboot would be faster ... |
| 11:34.26 | zecke | schurig: which cpu do you use nowadays? |
| 11:35.47 | schurig | zecke: PXA255 and on some fork lift terminals i386 lookalikes |
| 11:35.57 | hrw|work | RP: #include <asm/hardware/sharpsl_pm.h> into corgi.c, corgi_ssp.c |
| 11:37.14 | schurig | zecke: going from one cpu to the next (e.g. PXA27x) is quite costly. New schematics, new board, new tests, new drilling and placing instructions for the manufacturing company etc ... and the market doesn't need the newest CPU, they don't really care about the exact CPU type in it |
| 11:37.55 | hrw|work | schurig: 'if it works, dont fix it' way? :) |
| 11:37.59 | RP | hrw|work: Thinking about it further, it probably should go into arch/arm/mach-pxa/sharpsl.h |
| 11:38.01 | schurig | hrw|work: exactly |
| 11:38.35 | hrw|work | RP: you are kernel master here |
| 11:38.52 | *** join/#oe molivier (n=mac@194.158.108.222) |
| 11:39.08 | zecke | schurig: true |
| 11:46.22 | *** join/#oe lrg (n=liamg@212.20.225.130) |
| 11:47.50 | hrw|work | RP: kernel built |
| 11:48.04 | schurig | while compiling gcc-cross-4.0.2-r1: checking for memcpy... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES |
| 11:48.38 | hrw|work | RP: dont forget about that small fix:) |
| 11:49.37 | *** join/#oe netnix (n=alex@81.25.41.171) |
| 11:51.11 | schurig | hmm, that happens while it configures zlib. Didn't even know that there's a zlib in gcc ... |
| 11:52.02 | zecke | koen: where can I turn this GNOME theme of viewmtn off? ;) |
| 11:52.29 | RP | hrw|work: I won't - need to make that before sending that patch to mainline :) |
| 11:53.07 | zecke | koen: but viewmtn looks good, finally I can browse easily in the repo |
| 11:53.32 | hrw|work | zecke: and look does 'pull/merge/update' is worth time |
| 11:54.01 | koen | zecke: I tried to change it to the tango theme, but the icon names don't map |
| 11:54.07 | schurig | hmm, this is an output from some ./configure run, but it's in log.do_compile ... weird |
| 11:54.56 | zecke | koen: 'Show current Head' fails here. |
| 11:55.15 | hrw|work | someone know a tool (gui preferred: kde, gtk2) which allow me to select which mails to remove from pop3 mailbox? |
| 11:55.16 | zecke | koen: I was scared a new spartial safari window would open once I entered the folder |
| 11:55.33 | zecke | hrw|work: kmail? |
| 11:55.58 | zecke | hrw|work: (leave on server, remove if locally removed) |
| 11:56.12 | hrw|work | zecke: o... where it has it? |
| 11:56.27 | koen | zecke: there are some issues with the caching mod_python tries to do |
| 11:56.31 | zecke | hrw|work: somewhere on the pop3 dialog ;) |
| 11:57.40 | hrw|work | zecke: not in 3.5.0 then.. 'leave fetched on server', 'leave on server for X days', 'keep only the last X messages', 'keep only the last X megabytes', 'filter if greater then' |
| 11:58.38 | zecke | hrw|work: wait a second, let me start XDarwin |
| 11:58.54 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:00.07 | zecke | starting kmail from stable from my uni account |
| 12:01.45 | zecke | hrw|work: weird |
| 12:01.57 | zecke | hrw|work: I could have sworn I have seen that option |
| 12:02.16 | schurig | s/things/thinks/ |
| 12:02.54 | hrw|work | zecke: happens |
| 12:03.16 | hrw|work | zecke: btw - kitchensync from 3.5.0 is able to sync with opie? |
| 12:03.41 | schurig | hrw|work: can you reach the same e-mail server via IMAP? Then use this. |
| 12:03.46 | koen | if that's using opensync you'll need to get the plugin from bluelightning |
| 12:04.05 | hrw|work | schurig: if I would have imap there.... |
| 12:04.05 | zecke | hrw|work: maybe they get removed anyway if you checked 'leave on server' |
| 12:04.05 | zecke | hrw|work: unlikely. I need to catch bluelightning |
| 12:04.40 | hrw|work | zecke: no - they stay (and I have 3M of mails there - 2.5M is spam probably) |
| 12:05.25 | zecke | hrw|work: let me try evolution |
| 12:05.36 | zecke | lol it crashed |
| 12:06.05 | XorA | zecke: well it is a copy of Outlook |
| 12:07.24 | hrw|work | ~lart konq/emb for being so old crap |
| 12:09.04 | schurig | hrw|work: "telnet <host> 110", USER ...; PASS ...; LIST ...; DELE ... :-) |
| 12:10.46 | zecke | schurig: http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/inst/ag-nbi/lehre/0506/V_NP/folien/07-InternetDienste.pdf |
| 12:10.51 | zecke | schurig: slide 16 and 17 |
| 12:11.20 | zecke | schurig: actually look at 20 as well |
| 12:11.26 | hrw|work | schurig: and you forgot about 'TOP number 30' to check subjects |
| 12:21.21 | hrw|work | koen: could you add machine feed for tmp images? |
| 12:22.08 | koen | no, I deleted the feeds used for building |
| 12:22.14 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:37.20 | schurig | RP: which glibc do you use with gcc 4.0.2? |
| 12:39.57 | hrw|work | schurig: glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r0 here |
| 12:40.38 | schurig | hrw|work: this won't compile on for TARGET_ARCH = "i386". The lowlevellock.h and lowlevellock.c don't agree ... |
| 12:41.36 | hrw|work | schurig: x86 targets are not well tested in OE.. |
| 12:49.51 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 12:50.25 | hrw|work | koen: that are oz or familiar builds btw? |
| 12:50.44 | koen | which builds? |
| 12:51.01 | hrw|work | tmp/OZ/ ones |
| 12:51.05 | koen | OZ |
| 12:51.09 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:51.34 | hrw|work | on #openzaurus I have borzoi user which will test probably |
| 12:52.30 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:53.45 | *** join/#oe Mardy (n=mardy@adsl-ull-90-224.42-151.net24.it) |
| 12:53.48 | Mardy | hi |
| 12:54.00 | koen | hey Mardy |
| 12:56.18 | hrw|work | hi Mardy |
| 13:02.46 | *** join/#oe ade|desk (n=adavey@194.200.143.249) |
| 13:04.12 | RP | schurig: I've only used gcc 4.0.2 from OE on arm... |
| 13:04.41 | *** join/#oe molivier2 (n=mac@212.194.23.209) |
| 13:05.19 | schurig | RP: it seems that even in glibc's cvs the sysdeps/.../i386/lowlevellock.h doesn't match the generic/lowlevellock.c file. Maybe ntpl isn't for 386ers ... now i try with TARGET_ARCH="i586" ... |
| 13:05.47 | schurig | one is defining __lll_lock_write() with return type int, the other with return type void |
| 13:06.35 | RP | schurig: I'm afraid I don't know anything about that problem... |
| 13:06.45 | schurig | RP: no problem |
| 13:09.59 | *** join/#oe omougin_ (n=omougin@212.194.23.209) |
| 13:10.58 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r635857df... 10/: module-init-tools: prefer 3.2.1 over 3.2-pre4 |
| 13:15.00 | *** join/#oe gints (n=gints@195.244.141.102) |
| 13:15.25 | lrg | greentux: do you know if my borzoi was repartitioned, as I'm running out of space on the device when I reflash it. |
| 13:16.02 | hrw|work | gints: pnong |
| 13:19.39 | Mardy | why is "sharp-aticore-oss" included in the package "sharp binary only"? |
| 13:19.51 | Mardy | it doesn't seem to be binary only |
| 13:21.24 | hrw|work | Mardy: it was created by disassemble of sharp binary |
| 13:23.38 | Mardy | hrw|work: the guy who did it did a nice work |
| 13:24.16 | Mardy | I guess it's not easy to deduce the include file from the code |
| 13:24.57 | greentux | lrg: you have to repartition... |
| 13:25.11 | lrg | greentux: how do I do that ? |
| 13:25.24 | lrg | greentux: its all in Japanese |
| 13:25.33 | greentux | lrg: see oz page :) |
| 13:25.36 | greentux | lrg: mom |
| 13:25.44 | lrg | thanks. |
| 13:25.59 | greentux | lrg: no it should be sharp english rom |
| 13:26.44 | lrg | greentux: the bootloader is all in Japanese, there are a few roman symbols though |
| 13:27.19 | greentux | lrg: ok. then boot into the sharp rom. open console and make a fdisk |
| 13:27.50 | greentux | lrg: you need only the bootloader for flashing, but you need repartition before. |
| 13:28.14 | lrg | greentux: ok i assume there is a sharp image on the cdrom that I can reflash |
| 13:28.15 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@avenger.brainfood.com) |
| 13:28.53 | greentux | lrg: i asked RP for repartioning in the updater script... but he declined |
| 13:29.20 | greentux | why? the borzoi should boot the original sharp image... isnt it? |
| 13:29.55 | greentux | lrg: why? the borzoi should boot the original sharp image... isnt it? |
| 13:30.20 | greentux | lrg: best way would be to flash a cacko rom... -> console -> repartition -> flash OZ |
| 13:30.24 | lrg | greentux: it did originally, until I reflashed with an oz image |
| 13:30.44 | lrg | greentux: ah, ok |
| 13:30.54 | greentux | lrg: just minute |
| 13:31.31 | *** join/#oe _alwin_ (n=ral@cable-84-44-250-180.netcologne.de) |
| 13:33.01 | XorA | rather than repartiion in oz, I used to just change the argument sent to kernel in command line, does mtdblock stuff still obey those args? |
| 13:33.47 | lrg | XorA: it doesn't even get that far as the updater runs out of space when unpacking the oz image |
| 13:34.14 | XorA | lrg: ok |
| 13:35.02 | greentux | lrg: it should be possible to build a flash version for borzoi... but i think repartitioning is also a way. |
| 13:35.29 | greentux | lrg: i read somewhere that there is a build in emergency shell, perhaps its useful for partitioning |
| 13:35.57 | lrg | ok, I'll search for that |
| 13:36.24 | greentux | lrg: but the cacko way is also easy... ten minutes |
| 13:36.46 | lrg | greentux: in that case I'll go with cacko. thanks |
| 13:36.51 | *** join/#oe v8jlene (n=lenehan@nynaeve.twibble.org) |
| 13:37.56 | greentux | lrg: cacko installes in flash, so you have the hdd free |
| 13:39.07 | *** join/#oe guillermo_ (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-201-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:39.24 | lrg | greentux: ok, I've found it |
| 13:41.13 | *** join/#oe Crofton (n=balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net) |
| 13:46.07 | ade|desk | RP: i got the dmesg output after suspend on battery |
| 13:48.47 | ade|desk | RP: http://pastebin.ca/32785 |
| 14:00.12 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:04.18 | hrw|work | hi chouimat |
| 14:07.12 | lrg | greentux: now booting oz :-) thanks |
| 14:08.26 | greentux | lrg: fine... |
| 14:10.14 | RP | ade|desk: Do you have sound modules installed or not? |
| 14:10.49 | RP | I'd guess not which makes me wonder what the timeout relates to... |
| 14:16.33 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4ff9f0d4... 10/: h2200.conf: adapt to changed module names |
| 14:16.37 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r96ccf6b1... 10/: handhelds-pxa-2.6: add defconfig for h2200 |
| 14:16.50 | *** join/#oe idealm (n=ideal@222.67.236.168) |
| 14:20.50 | ade|desk | RP: no sound modules installed |
| 14:21.26 | RP | ade|desk: and in that case, the backlight didn't come back? |
| 14:23.00 | ade|desk | RP: indeed |
| 14:23.26 | RP | does echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/brightness help? |
| 14:23.40 | RP | or does that give a further tiimeout? |
| 14:31.02 | ade|desk | RP: couldn't capture the dmesg that time, trying again |
| 14:31.30 | ade|desk | i think i have a sticky shift key |
| 14:36.24 | ade|desk | RP: echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/corgi-bl/brightness |
| 14:36.29 | ade|desk | RP: works |
| 14:37.21 | RP | ade|desk: Were you under gpe/opie at the time? Does it work any better if you're at a console with opie/gpe killed? |
| 14:37.36 | ade|desk | RP: gpe |
| 14:42.55 | greentux | lrg: ok, cu tom |
| 14:43.21 | RP | greentux_away: cu |
| 14:43.32 | ade|desk | grr no path to /sbin make life so much harder |
| 14:44.32 | ade|desk | RP: no difference with or without X |
| 14:45.05 | *** join/#oe koen (n=koen@wlan136041.mobiel.utwente.nl) |
| 14:45.24 | RP | ade|desk: ok, thanks |
| 14:45.46 | Bernardo | RP: also I tested with and without opie, no difference here too |
| 14:46.47 | RP | It was working... |
| 14:46.56 | Bernardo | RP: do you want the i2c messages on resume? |
| 14:47.12 | *** join/#oe Dormi|OFF (n=a@62.57.212.180) |
| 14:47.15 | Dormi|OFF | hi |
| 14:47.20 | RP | Bernardo: I think ade pastebinned them earlier |
| 14:47.38 | Bernardo | ok, I'll check if mine are equal |
| 14:48.35 | Bernardo | yep, identical |
| 14:48.59 | *** join/#oe alan|laptop (n=alan@ARouen-152-1-70-69.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:49.03 | Dormi|OFF | how to regenerate all zImages kernels of openzaurus? |
| 14:49.23 | koen|uni | bitbake them |
| 14:50.20 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: rebuild kernel |
| 14:50.26 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: which machine btw? |
| 14:50.36 | Bernardo | just found out what is wrong with my wifi - a complaint by iwconfig that it doesn't know mode "infrastructure" - but does know mode "managed" and connects |
| 14:50.57 | Dormi|OFF | bitbake task-bootstrap but I need remove any files from tmp/stamps ? |
| 14:51.10 | Dormi|OFF | openzaurus collie |
| 14:51.55 | Dormi|OFF | rm tmp/stamps/openzaurus-sa-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r22.do_* ? |
| 14:51.56 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: then bitbake collie-kernels |
| 14:51.57 | Bernardo | editing /etc/network/interfaces and replacing "infrastructure" with "managed" and now I get wifi always |
| 14:52.06 | Dormi|OFF | thanks hrw|work |
| 14:55.19 | hrw|work | np |
| 14:56.29 | [lala] | hi guys |
| 14:56.53 | [lala] | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=498#c4 |
| 14:57.12 | [lala] | can anyone explain me the behavior of bitbake in that case? |
| 14:59.17 | hrw|work | [lala]: ascii table: '.' is after '-' |
| 15:00.35 | [lala] | well, the question is if that behavior schould be changed in bitbake ... |
| 15:01.15 | [lala] | because it clearly misleads the user ;-) |
| 15:02.09 | [lala] | i wouldn't even been aware of the fact that i'm compiling an _old_ version if it hadn't been the case that the old version was not on the mirror anymore |
| 15:04.20 | hrw|work | [lala]: probably PV parser need to be changed |
| 15:04.21 | koen|uni | it shouldn't happen with out new versioning policy |
| 15:04.42 | Bernardo | RP: removing sd card after suspend locks the akita |
| 15:05.47 | Dormi|OFF | hrw|work, collie-kernels it is a meta-package? |
| 15:06.03 | RP | Bernardo: It also locks c7x0 under 2.6.15-rc5... |
| 15:06.30 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: yes |
| 15:07.07 | RP | At least its reproducable I guess... |
| 15:07.07 | Dormi|OFF | I dont have collie-kernels.bb file in package/meta |
| 15:07.19 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: ops. its linux/collie-kernels-2.4-embedix.bb |
| 15:07.43 | hrw|work | Dormi|OFF: basically you need to 'bitbake virtual/kernel' - let OE decide which to build ;) |
| 15:08.13 | Dormi|OFF | hrw|work thanks |
| 15:09.15 | hrw|work | np |
| 15:09.34 | Bernardo | RP: that might also be related to what I see accessing the sd after suspend / resume |
| 15:09.44 | Bernardo | looks like the sd module dies |
| 15:10.53 | RP | Bernardo|away: Its highly likely |
| 15:10.59 | *** join/#oe alan_ (n=alan@ARouen-152-1-69-138.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:16.21 | *** join/#oe alwin_ (n=ral@cable-195-14-198-2.netcologne.de) |
| 15:32.51 | *** join/#oe _guillermo (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-116-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:34.50 | *** join/#oe [lala_] (n=lala@139.12.1.252) |
| 15:39.12 | *** join/#oe _guillermo_ (n=guillerm@dslb-084-061-215-016.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:44.11 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-060-098-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:45.52 | *** join/#oe bipolar (n=bipolar@146.145.26.90) |
| 15:55.46 | hrw|work | heh.. I feel that gnumeric is not a tool for me.. more problems with chart then I had in oocalc |
| 16:02.41 | XorA | hrw|work: whats wrong with gnuplot :-D |
| 16:02.56 | koen|uni | gnuplot rocks |
| 16:04.19 | koen|uni | but rotating 3d plots on an ipaq is sloooooooooooooow |
| 16:04.51 | koen|uni | gnuplot is a nice candidate for iwmmx |
| 16:06.13 | hrw|work | XorA: Idont want to run gnuplot to draw 12 point chart which I want to manipulate |
| 16:06.36 | hrw|work | XorA: for me gnuplot is a tool when I want to make a chart from hundreds of entries |
| 16:21.18 | *** join/#oe ar_ (n=ar@port-ip-213-211-231-121.reverse.mdcc-fun.de) |
| 16:41.19 | *** join/#oe sirfred (n=mteira@96.Red-81-34-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:41.35 | sirfred | Good evening. |
| 16:42.30 | hrw|work | hi sirfred |
| 16:43.12 | RP | sirfred: good evening |
| 16:43.22 | RP | sirfred: meet Mardy |
| 16:43.33 | RP | Mardy: meet sirfred (Manuel) |
| 16:43.42 | RP | :) |
| 16:44.52 | *** join/#oe koen (n=koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 16:45.14 | RP | koen: Can you give a link to that mutli-machine build script again please? |
| 16:46.07 | koen | sure |
| 16:47.11 | koen | RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/scripts/ |
| 16:47.39 | sirfred | Mardy: Hello. |
| 16:47.47 | koen | the matching local.conf is also there |
| 16:47.49 | Mardy | hi sirfred :-) |
| 16:48.16 | Mardy | I still don't know what this microcode is |
| 16:48.23 | RP | koen: thanks - I've saved them this time. I'm about to try and set up some semi automated builds |
| 16:50.38 | koen | the script should guard against the most common OE pitfalls, but doesn't protect against PV downgrading and such |
| 16:56.31 | *** join/#oe moa_ (n=moa@APuteaux-154-1-33-248.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:58.15 | *** join/#oe Cobelius (n=rehfeld@193.149.11.239) |
| 17:06.30 | RP | hrw|work: Do you see a problem with putting some documentation about the w100 onto the oz wiki? |
| 17:07.37 | hrw|work | RP: OE wiki? no problem with me |
| 17:08.06 | RP | hrw|work: Ah, OZ doesn't have a wiki does it :-/ |
| 17:11.58 | lardman|work | RP: can't you create a new page on the wordpress |
| 17:13.06 | *** join/#oe bipolar (n=bipolar@146.145.26.90) |
| 17:13.19 | RP | lardman|work: I can but I'm not going to be the only person working on this - I'm recommending it goes on hh.org who hopefully won't mind :) |
| 17:15.51 | lardman|work | RP: Ah, I see |
| 17:16.05 | hrw|work | hh.org wiki is best probably as it already contain many misc PDA related docs |
| 17:16.12 | RP | agreed |
| 17:16.26 | RP | I was thinking OZ had a wiki but I'm just confused :) |
| 17:23.10 | RP | koen: With this script do you need to inherit multi-machine? |
| 17:23.43 | koen | yes, although the content is pasted into my local.conf |
| 17:32.59 | mreimer | When mt updating, I'm getting a bunch of these: "monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet 9beb55f69acc310fc2689a2b52611680e524a2e8 with unmet dependencies" |
| 17:33.03 | mreimer | should I be concerned? |
| 17:33.29 | koen | it's a side effect from a mistake in the nslu2 tree |
| 17:33.52 | mreimer | can I safely ignore them? |
| 17:33.55 | koen | a packet has ancestors in a branch that isn't in your db |
| 17:34.00 | koen | you can safely ignore them |
| 17:34.01 | mreimer | ah |
| 17:34.40 | mreimer | thanks koen |
| 17:46.01 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:59.17 | Dormi|OFF | any meta-package or script to organize all the ikg packages whith section dirs? |
| 18:01.05 | *** join/#oe pH5 (n=ph5@e178193159.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:02.19 | *** join/#oe oris_wolfbane (n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:04.29 | *** join/#oe mithro (n=tim@c213-100-42-188.swipnet.se) |
| 18:06.53 | *** join/#oe Timelord0 (n=TL@66.84.189.72) |
| 18:07.58 | *** join/#oe Crofton (n=balister@hc6521d74.dhcp.vt.edu) |
| 18:09.40 | kergoth | meh |
| 18:09.41 | kergoth | ~today |
| 18:09.43 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 18:09.49 | *** join/#oe AvengerMoJo (n=alex@avenger.brainfood.com) |
| 18:11.19 | Crofton | What's up kergoth ? |
| 18:20.46 | *** join/#oe uv1 (n=kvirc@p5089179E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:21.22 | uv1 | Goog evening all |
| 18:24.21 | uv1 | Anyone here ? |
| 18:26.07 | kergoth | heh. unemployment is becoming troublesome |
| 18:26.50 | uv1 | Quick question. Do we have already a package in oe, where I can find an initrd example ? |
| 18:27.07 | uv1 | kergoth: Want to work in germany ? |
| 18:29.32 | uv1 | Oh shit. Just did a pull and now have lots of parsing errors ... |
| 18:29.34 | uv1 | OTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0888/2837) [31 %]ERROR: while parsing /home/sc/scdev/oe/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/guile/guile-native_1.6.4.bb |
| 18:29.39 | uv1 | Any help ;-( |
| 18:34.15 | *** join/#oe CosmicPenguin (n=nobody@aus-ext-proxy01.amd.com) |
| 18:42.34 | *** part/#oe uv1 (n=kvirc@p5089179E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:45.27 | zecke | kergoth: hey |
| 18:45.37 | zecke | kergoth: do you like marvin? ;) |
| 18:50.27 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (n=scotsman@n128-227-137-153.xlate.ufl.edu) |
| 18:58.31 | koen | kergoth: you left astrocorp? |
| 19:00.09 | kergoth | yeah, wasnt very happy there. plus i missed work a fair bitdue to depression before the medical benefits started and i got on the medication.. then 2-3 weeks for it to take effect... all good now, but a bit late |
| 19:00.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:01.28 | zecke | kergoth: at least you have drugs now! |
| 19:01.39 | zecke | kergoth: head up, you are not alone |
| 19:01.44 | kergoth | this is true, except that i may have trouble affording the prescription refill now :) |
| 19:02.53 | zecke | kergoth: how much are these pills? |
| 19:03.27 | Mardy | kergoth: did you have a look at my proposed changes to tslib? |
| 19:03.42 | kergoth | it was like $25 when i /had/ medical insurance. i expect around $100 or so |
| 19:03.50 | kergoth | Mardy: not yet, its in my mailbox, will do so |
| 19:04.04 | zecke | kergoth: well ask for donations |
| 19:04.07 | Mardy | kergoth: looking forward to it :-) |
| 19:04.22 | zecke | kergoth: I still have some money from treke on my paypal account |
| 19:04.46 | zecke | kergoth: are you in other thearapy as well? |
| 19:05.02 | kergoth | no worries, i've still got one possible way to get out of the shithole i'm in |
| 19:05.07 | kergoth | going to try to sell my townhouse to my dad |
| 19:05.14 | kergoth | get some cash that way, since its worth more than it was when i bought it |
| 19:05.16 | Crofton | hmm |
| 19:05.25 | Crofton | can you rent it to him? |
| 19:05.53 | Crofton | although I can understand your need to pay off debt |
| 19:06.10 | kergoth | well, if i dojnt come up with cash within weeks, i'm losing my car, and will still owe $12k on the car loan |
| 19:06.13 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:06.47 | Crofton | I was afraid of that |
| 19:07.02 | kergoth | new cars suck |
| 19:07.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:07.11 | Crofton | It can take weeks to arrange real estate transactions |
| 19:07.13 | Crofton | yeah |
| 19:07.20 | kergoth | thats true |
| 19:07.29 | Crofton | they are worth less than the loan the moment you drive them off the lot |
| 19:07.50 | *** join/#oe pH5 (n=ph5@e178193159.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:08.15 | kergoth | indeed. and some idiot hit my car like 2 months after buying it, which doesnt help the value any |
| 19:08.19 | kergoth | bastards |
| 19:08.23 | kergoth | ~lart car companies |
| 19:08.40 | zecke | kergoth: you don't get a new car in this case? |
| 19:09.04 | zecke | kergoth: good luck! |
| 19:14.08 | Crofton | anyone have any advice on which pop server package I should use? mail at school hasgone to poop |
| 19:14.44 | zecke | Crofton: pop1 or pop2? why not imap? |
| 19:15.18 | Crofton | no real preferece |
| 19:15.21 | koen | I was looking at adding dovecot to OE, but gave up after the third time configure wanted to run binaries |
| 19:15.36 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:22.45 | *** join/#oe gremlin[it] (n=gremlin@194-185-220-109.f4.ngi.it) |
| 19:28.38 | *** join/#oe zap (n=zap@217.170.93.196) |
| 19:45.03 | *** join/#oe [lala] (i=lala@tmo-045-93.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 19:45.54 | *** join/#oe pb_ (n=pb@cpc1-cmbg6-5-0-cust20.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:46.42 | *** join/#oe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 19:54.37 | gremlin[it] | hi pb_ ! |
| 19:56.28 | pb_ | hi gremlin[it] |
| 19:56.48 | pb_ | hi mickeyl, kergoth, all |
| 19:58.34 | *** part/#oe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 19:59.06 | zecke | gruezi pb_ |
| 20:00.26 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 20:02.45 | *** join/#oe _law_ (n=_law_@213.173.86.202) |
| 20:02.59 | RP | hi pb_ |
| 20:04.35 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 20:09.02 | *** join/#oe mrz80 (i=1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu) |
| 20:13.06 | *** join/#oe dkey (n=dkey@L0002P12.dipool.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:18.54 | *** join/#oe ade|desk (n=adavey@213-232-83-137.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk) |
| 20:46.04 | *** join/#oe lrg|home (n=liam@exize.demon.co.uk) |
| 20:52.24 | lrg|home | ~seen RP |
| 20:52.28 | ibot | rp is currently on #gpe (4d 4h 27m 31s) #oe (4d 4h 27m 31s) #openzaurus (4d 4h 27m 31s) #handhelds.org (4d 4h 27m 31s). Has said a total of 203 messages. Is idling for 45m 37s |
| 20:52.41 | RP | evening lrg|home |
| 20:52.49 | lrg|home | evening Richard |
| 20:53.07 | lrg|home | RP: I have a theory on the resume |
| 20:53.35 | RP | this sounds promising |
| 20:54.03 | lrg|home | RP: would you be able to check if the dpm_event is called in the 31 driver for state D0 after resume |
| 20:54.23 | RP | lrg|home: yes, I'll do it now |
| 20:54.35 | lrg|home | RP: if so, then it looks like we have a cache coherency issue. |
| 20:54.50 | lrg|home | RP: thanks |
| 20:55.24 | lrg|home | RP: if not then there is a bug in the stream logic |
| 20:55.50 | *** join/#oe tomimo (n=kurre@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:56.13 | *** join/#oe kurre2 (n=tomimo@a80-186-64-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:56.40 | RP | lrg|home: Did you see my comments on the ACTIVE register? |
| 20:57.46 | lrg|home | RP: yes, the active bt was not being set |
| 20:58.25 | lrg|home | RP: PM state D0 should do this |
| 20:59.48 | RP | lrg|home: Its in state D3hot |
| 20:59.54 | lrg|home | ah |
| 21:00.26 | lrg|home | RP: this means my stream logic is a litle wonky. I now know where to look. Thanks |
| 21:02.29 | RP | lrg|home: np. I'm pleased it gives a clue as to what's wrong :) |
| 21:03.37 | lrg|home | RP: got it. I'll be sending a patch shortly :) |
| 21:03.55 | RP | That was quick :) |
| 21:05.12 | lrg|home | RP: a stupid ommision :( I had made a change to the 53, but didn't apply it to the others. doh |
| 21:09.35 | *** join/#oe hufnus (n=slonsiki@DSL135-071.LABridge.com) |
| 21:15.06 | *** join/#oe Pendalar (i=pendalar@h105.240.213.151.ip.alltel.net) |
| 21:20.40 | lrg|home | RP: patch in the mail.... |
| 21:34.32 | *** join/#oe Geo_KM (n=keith@ppp62-196.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net) |
| 21:47.57 | pH5 | koen: I just get many "monotone: warning: discarding revision cert/data packet ... with unmet dependencies" errors when trying to pull from ewi546 |
| 21:48.30 | pH5 | can packets from the org.openembedded.dev branch depend on packets in other branches? |
| 21:48.31 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-060-124-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:48.33 | koen | ignore those |
| 21:48.47 | koen | they can depend on other branches |
| 21:48.56 | koen | see jbowlers email to oe@ today |
| 21:48.58 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r8183e5d9... 10/: gtk+-2.8.6: adapt patches from 2.6 |
| 21:49.12 | pH5 | ah right, pushing worked, too. |
| 21:51.34 | *** join/#oe emeteo (n=NoSwPate@kde/developer/mteijeiro) |
| 22:01.51 | RP | lrg|home: Will test, thanks |
| 22:02.27 | lrg|home | RP: thanks, cu tomorrow |
| 22:03.08 | *** part/#oe pH5 (n=ph5@e178193159.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:05.47 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rbeebd164... 10/: handhelds-pxa-2.6 cvs: copy zImage into deploy/images, backported from .dev |
| 22:19.47 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | has anyone seen this error while building sdl-image? -> "Cannot find package sdl-base" |
| 22:25.30 | ScytheBlade1 | In machine/*.conf, what exactly does the OLDEST_KERNEL mean? ie, in x86.conf, it's 2.6.5. What exactly does this effect? |
| 22:25.48 | koen | the oldest kernel that will run on that device |
| 22:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | mmkay, that's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure |
| 22:26.42 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks |
| 22:28.01 | *** join/#oe molivier (n=omougin@212.194.142.103) |
| 22:35.53 | *** join/#oe mjc (n=mjc@odin.landmark.edu) |
| 22:46.14 | *** join/#oe [lala] (n=lala@p54B3AB0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:03.22 | _law_ | hey where can i find arm-toolchain (2.95.3) |
| 23:04.06 | koen | http://handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain/archive/cross-2.95.3.tar.bz2 |
| 23:04.30 | koen | and read http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels to see where the symlinks should point to |
| 23:05.16 | _law_ | koen: thanks |
| 23:08.52 | *** join/#oe andersee (n=andersee@codepoet.org) |
| 23:13.15 | *** join/#oe Geo_KM (n=keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com) |
| 23:19.15 | *** join/#oe katossi (n=guillerm@dslb-084-060-124-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:27.11 | *** join/#oe hrw|gone (n=hrw@62.111.158.170) |
| 23:35.32 | _law_ | monotone: 32.9 M | 1.3 M | 12,674 | 3,085 | 53 |
| 23:35.43 | _law_ | :-( i think this will take hours |
| 23:36.02 | koen | grab the snapshot |
| 23:37.20 | _law_ | or is this because i convert a dvd in the background ;-) ? |
| 23:49.10 | *** join/#oe TyggerBob (n=myname@CPE0000395fb8ba-CM000f9f7c58fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |