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| 08:30.36 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:33.02 | memeruiz | cool, I managed to my sl5600 to work with the ratoc usb host and get usb-storage and acn usb drivers working. All of this using and altering .bb and some files in the oemetadata. I can navegate throw a cell phone with the zaurus!! |
| 08:34.23 | memeruiz | I will refine this changes, maybe this can be included in the oemetadata. |
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| 08:45.39 | alan|xchat | good morning |
| 08:50.03 | hrw|work | dzień dobry all |
| 08:50.15 | greentux | dzien dobry |
| 08:50.46 | greentux | na imja mam "greentux" :) |
| 08:51.20 | hrw|work | greentux: ;) nice try |
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| 08:52.09 | greentux | i know, long time ago... and only speaking no writing. |
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| 08:52.30 | greentux | hrw|work: some news from RP because 2.6.15? |
| 08:53.22 | hrw|work | greentux: first Linus has to release 2.6.15 |
| 08:55.02 | greentux | hrw|work: to see which patches are accepted? |
| 08:55.42 | greentux | hrw|work: vor some reasons we have to use 2.6.12, but in the moment i see that there are to many many many backports so its easier to port our features to 2.6.15... |
| 08:59.21 | hrw|work | greentux: first: current stable for Z is 2.6.14-rc1 |
| 08:59.33 | hrw|work | greentux: second: current development is 2.6.14-git3 |
| 09:00.12 | hrw|work | greentux: third: Zaurus things which are in 2.6.15-rc1 are part of our 2.6.14-git3 |
| 09:00.40 | hrw|work | greentux: when RP will decide 'we bump development Zaurus kernel version' then he will do it. but not before |
| 09:05.29 | greentux | hrw|work: ok, we have for our little project to decide if we backport Z features to 2.6.12 or if we port our needs to 2.6.>14. For me it looks, that we should use the second choise... |
| 09:09.06 | RP | Backporting to 2.6.12 would seem a bit pointless |
| 09:09.13 | RP | morning all btw |
| 09:12.00 | greentux | RP: i wanted to hear that :) to much changes between 2.6.12 to 14 |
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| 09:12.07 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:12.14 | RP | morning ade|desk |
| 09:12.39 | hrw|work | hi RP, ade |
| 09:13.55 | diesert | morning RP |
| 09:14.01 | diesert | hi hrw |
| 09:14.10 | diesert | RP:I had build a new kernel for my spitz sl-c3000 ,how to update the kernel? |
| 09:14.42 | RP | diesert: Use the standard reflash procedure |
| 09:15.59 | diesert | RP: with ipkg install or something else? |
| 09:16.43 | RP | diesert: The usual procedure with e CF card and updater.sh and a zimage.bin file. You don't need to reflash the rootfs at the same time |
| 09:18.59 | diesert | RP:this is my first time to update the kernel , what will need to be notice. |
| 09:19.35 | hrw|work | hi diesert |
| 09:21.05 | RP | diesert: Have a look at the instructions on openzaurus.org about reflashing your device |
| 09:22.29 | diesert | RP: ohh.. I remeber that .. |
| 09:24.10 | greentux | rp: the " USB ethernet is usefull (and working :-) toy." patch in pavels zarus git solves the gadget usbnet support? |
| 09:24.49 | RP | greentux: not yet - doesn't work |
| 09:25.00 | RP | greentux: Its the hh.org code I talked about |
| 09:26.00 | greentux | rp: mmmh that funny commit comment. ok, anyway :) if there is something to test, i will do |
| 09:29.51 | hrw|work | wow.. few dirs from CVS_DIR removed and 1.8G gain |
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| 09:51.37 | hrw|work | 9G partition is quite small for few builds. |
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| 09:52.27 | lardman|work | 'a few'? I'm also running out of space, need to invest in one of those big (cheap) disks rather than using hand-me-downs from old PCs |
| 09:57.09 | XorA | lardman|work: lvm :-D |
| 09:57.15 | hrw|work | lardman|work: oz353, 0912 (my current c7x0), 1115-gcc4 (future c7x0), armv4l (collie 3.5.4rc), native (for opie devel), x86 (tried something) |
| 09:59.15 | hrw|work | lardman|work: so it is a few |
| 09:59.37 | lardman|work | hrw|work: :) that's what I meant |
| 10:00.27 | hrw|work | lardman|work: too bad that gtk stuff has fscked something so I cannot use rm_work with it |
| 10:01.16 | lardman|work | hrw|work: When I have more space I think I'll separate my GPE & Opie builds, otherwise I manage to forget to delete SDL or similar and it breaks |
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| 10:08.26 | hrw|work | hmm.. 9.5M sql script to put in database. |
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| 10:52.09 | greentux | hrw|work: i hav enow bootstrap.img and bootstraps.tar.gz... where is the kernel, i have to flash? |
| 10:54.12 | hrw|work | greentux: zImage-something |
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| 11:02.27 | hrw|work | ~lart smbfs |
| 11:15.08 | greentux | ok, bluetooth with serial_cs and billionton card against a 6630 umts handy works well |
| 11:15.35 | greentux | hrw|work: but which webclient do u recomment? |
| 11:16.26 | hrw|work | greentux: firefox 1.5rc2 or opera 8.5/9.0pre but not MSIE (any version) |
| 11:16.50 | greentux | hrw|work: i mean on Z... |
| 11:17.21 | greentux | hrw|work: u said konq is not longer recommended |
| 11:17.22 | hrw|work | a.. on Zaurus.. |
| 11:17.34 | hrw|work | I didnt said that |
| 11:18.14 | hrw|work | I said that is is no longer maintained (konq/emb qte2 edition which we use in OE for OPIE) |
| 11:18.30 | greentux | hrw|work: mmmh ok, and what is maintained? |
| 11:22.27 | hrw|work | currently nothing |
| 11:26.59 | greentux | hrw|work:i booted my first bootstrap. many kernel messages because empty flash, but runs. |
| 11:27.14 | greentux | hrw|work: then i got warning about wrong kernel (2.4.20 expected) |
| 11:29.06 | AvengerMoJo | anyone use ruby here? |
| 11:29.12 | hrw|work | which one you boot? |
| 11:29.27 | hrw|work | greentux: rebuild initscripts if you changed kernel |
| 11:29.59 | greentux | hrw|work: in the bootstrap image shoul be rebuild initscripts? |
| 11:30.16 | greentux | hrw|work:there are complete /etc/init.d |
| 11:31.07 | greentux | hrw|work: bootstrap-image-borzoi-<timestamp>-rootfs.tar.gz renamed to hdimage1.tar.gz |
| 11:32.00 | hrw|work | greentux: that wrong kernel message is initscript which take kernel version from staging. if you use own build than ignore message or rebuild initscripts package |
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| 11:36.16 | greentux | hrw|work:ok understand, but i also opie started... i think i have to format my disk. |
| 11:40.11 | greentux | rp: the empty flash lines (inreasing memory numbers) needs some a patch? |
| 11:41.18 | _law_ | why my sl-760 needs more time to boot then my 5000d ? |
| 11:41.57 | RP | greentux: Just ignore them |
| 11:42.09 | RP | _law_: bigger flash |
| 11:43.47 | _law_ | RP, but i nearly loads the same stuff and kernel 2.6 should be faster or? |
| 11:43.57 | greentux | rp: ok. sorry, only my experience. |
| 11:45.19 | greentux | hrw|work: ok, what is the recommended way to go from ipie image to bootstrap? format something etc? |
| 11:45.25 | RP | _law_: jffs2 scales badly and takes a certain amount of time to scan flash. Your 760 has a bigger flash so it takes longer to scan. |
| 11:46.37 | _law_ | RP, ah okay thanks |
| 11:48.56 | greentux | rp: should i use borzoi or spitz updater script? borzoi looks like writing in flash... |
| 11:49.32 | RP | greentux: spitz for now. I'm actually updating that in OE as we speak. I have a queue of changes I've forgotten to push... |
| 11:51.25 | greentux | rp: then i dont now why opie starts (installed the bootstrap). perhaps some formating not right |
| 11:54.52 | hrw|work | greentux: send me c3x00 so I will be able to answer that |
| 11:56.24 | greentux | hrw|work: i can put it easy on net with login for u, i have only one c3x00, but i will ask... |
| 11:57.04 | greentux | rp: ok, the kernel we built looked only in flash, doesnt mount hdd, so it started my 3.5.2 opie :) |
| 11:57.47 | RP | greentux: This is also being fixed in the changes I'm about to push |
| 11:58.23 | greentux | rp: a lot of thanks. |
| 11:59.39 | RP | greentux: pushed to ewi |
| 11:59.48 | greentux | ok, when i can organise another c3x00 for development. who of you has the most benefit from that? are a time of about 8 weeks ok? |
| 12:02.36 | hrw|work | 28 revs in... |
| 12:05.29 | RP | greentux: That's a good question. I have one and mickeyl has one. Both hrw and XorA do good work in testing images, keeping things working in OE and helping users etc.. hrw has probably given you the most help on here recently... |
| 12:06.55 | XorA | Id go for hrw as well, my new job keeps my too busy to make full use of a C3x00 |
| 12:08.50 | hrw|work | what if I became addicted to c3x00? |
| 12:09.05 | XorA | hrw|work: then collie support dies :-) |
| 12:09.31 | greentux | hrw|work: therapy? leaving for brunch |
| 12:09.43 | XorA | the only stuff I do that needs a 3x00 is mplayer, not really justification :-) |
| 12:09.45 | hrw|work | XorA: rather not - I dont have funds to get any pda |
| 12:10.09 | hrw|work | ~dict brunch |
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| 12:15.16 | hrw|work | so I get c3x00 for testing and became addicted then after returning it I will be frustrated because of lack so my dev skills will drop and who will be guilty? |
| 12:15.19 | hrw|work | :) |
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| 12:16.18 | XorA | ~change 739 eur to gbp |
| 12:17.49 | lardman|work | XorA: What's that for? |
| 12:18.07 | hrw|work | hmm.. 3100 is cheaper then 3000 |
| 12:18.08 | XorA | lardman|work: trisoft.de |
| 12:18.25 | lardman|work | XorA: Japan direct, etc. are significantly cheaper iirc |
| 12:18.40 | XorA | lardman|work: 400 GBP on ebay currently |
| 12:18.54 | hrw|work | pricejapan.com is 487EUR |
| 12:19.06 | lardman|work | hrw|work: perhaps they are trying to push people to buy them by pricing them higher; or perhaps they are just looking at the supply |
| 12:19.13 | hrw|work | ~change 487 eur to pln |
| 12:19.32 | XorA | ~change 487 eur to gbp |
| 12:19.44 | lardman|work | much less painful |
| 12:20.25 | hrw|work | I have to get better paid job... but php programming is not good trade for it here |
| 12:20.27 | lardman|work | May as well go for a c1000 though as they are the same hw, and cheaper still |
| 12:20.46 | hrw|work | XorA: http://pricejapan.com/ does not work? firewalled... |
| 12:20.55 | XorA | hrw|work: blank page |
| 12:21.14 | hrw|work | funny |
| 12:22.03 | XorA | hrw|work: a dodgy meta refresh that doesnt work |
| 12:22.08 | hrw|work | pricejapan is cheaper then japandirect |
| 12:22.10 | hrw|work | XorA: ah. |
| 12:22.18 | hrw|work | XorA: http://pricejapan.com/PriceJapan_com.htm |
| 12:23.23 | XorA | I can almost afford the pricejapan one |
| 12:24.20 | _law_ | is there a key for ctrl on collie? i cant do ctrl+c |
| 12:24.27 | _law_ | i also search esc |
| 12:24.58 | hrw|work | _law_: esc=cancel |
| 12:25.06 | hrw|work | _law_: ctrl-c = Fn-c |
| 12:25.16 | hrw|work | or Fn-Shift-C |
| 12:25.36 | _law_ | hrw|work, thanks will try i later on my collie |
| 12:28.22 | _law_ | hrw|work, is there also an alt key? |
| 12:29.06 | hrw|work | _law_: no |
| 12:32.51 | XorA | ~change 567 usd to gbp |
| 12:33.40 | hrw|work | ~lart Crowley (ISP) |
| 12:46.25 | magnet_ | hi |
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| 12:59.05 | greentux | back... |
| 13:02.50 | greentux | hrw|work: i am not able to buy a c3100 and give it away. i sent a email to somebody who can do that. but pehaps he said, ok, vor 3 or 6 months. but we will see |
| 13:04.04 | hrw|work | man.. I know that I use too much humor and/or sarcasm very often |
| 13:04.54 | greentux | :) |
| 13:05.06 | greentux | hrw|work: sorry, but where do you live? wroslaw? |
| 13:05.23 | hrw|work | greentux: Poznan |
| 13:06.29 | greentux | hrw|work: 150km east of berlin? |
| 13:07.22 | greentux | hrw|work: ok, think 250km |
| 13:08.16 | hrw|work | about 250km - 3.5h by train |
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| 13:37.31 | greentux | rp: ok checked out your changes and try again... :) |
| 13:38.46 | RP | greentux: I thought i'd pushed them a while ago - sorry about that... |
| 13:47.39 | Twiun | ... this is priceless... http://theobvious.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/cnn_does_not_kn.html |
| 13:47.44 | Twiun | they used satellite imagery from google but drew their own labels |
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| 13:49.48 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:52.13 | Twiun | hiya |
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| 13:55.49 | Cobelius | Is somewhere a reference about the bbclasses online? |
| 13:56.10 | katossi | is vanille down? |
| 13:58.22 | Crofton | It was yesterday |
| 13:58.32 | greentux | seems down. i use mirror |
| 14:04.50 | greentux | rp: ok, works fine. no oopses left :), but the "Empty flashes" are there (only for info) |
| 14:07.33 | hrw|work | greentux: probably reformat of flash is needed to clear them |
| 14:07.37 | hrw|work | re (after lunch) |
| 14:13.30 | greentux | how to reformat? |
| 14:17.29 | hrw|work | there is something in mtd-utils but I'm not familiar with it |
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| 14:19.40 | sgodard | hello |
| 14:20.32 | sgodard | Where can i find openembedded.tar.gz please |
| 14:21.06 | hrw|work | sgodard: you mean database snapshot with repository? |
| 14:21.08 | hrw|work | ~ewi |
| 14:21.09 | ibot | well, ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 |
| 14:22.43 | sgodard | thx |
| 14:23.01 | sgodard | qqn parle francais ici svp ? |
| 14:23.35 | hrw|work | sgodard: alan understand French but he is not here |
| 14:31.03 | hrw|work | chouimat: ops. I forgot about canadians.. |
| 14:31.45 | chouimat | hrw|work: hehe |
| 14:49.01 | RP | hrw|work, greentux: Even messing with mtd tools doesn't clear those warnings. I'd just advise ignoring them. They only appear on borzoi/akita 2.6... |
| 14:50.20 | hrw|work | ah. ok |
| 14:55.38 | greentux | rp: akiti = borzoi - hdd i think... ok. no problem |
| 14:55.52 | hrw|work | greentux: no - borzoi is akita + hdd rather ;) |
| 14:58.34 | RP | greentux: Both are large page flash devices and hence see the message. spitz is small page |
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| 15:09.47 | sgodard | salut cedric |
| 15:09.54 | sgodard | tu es Francais |
| 15:10.54 | magnet_ | lol. |
| 15:11.07 | magnet_ | I guess someone coming from aubervilier is. |
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| 15:42.56 | lala | gtk+-2.8.6-r0: task do_compile: failed |
| 15:43.18 | lala | breaks in demos dir |
| 15:43.25 | lala | | no --raw --build-list |
| 15:43.33 | lala | | /bin/sh: no: command not found |
| 15:46.33 | lala | hmm ... better to apply the no-demos.patch ... it's not applied by default as it seems |
| 15:48.06 | lala | is there a special reason it has been commented out in .bb file? |
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| 15:54.47 | lala | well, i see. the patch is wrong |
| 15:55.22 | lala | 'perf' is missing in SRC_SUBDIRS |
| 15:58.22 | hrw|work | fix and submit patch via bugtracker? |
| 16:00.31 | lala | will do |
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| 16:14.11 | lala | hmm ... libsvg doesn't compile either ... |
| 16:14.16 | lala | | /home/matt/build/OE/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/expat.h:985: warning: 'cdecl' attribute directive ignored |
| 16:14.16 | lala | | svg_parser_expat.c:36: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_start_element' follows non-static declaration |
| 16:14.16 | lala | | svgint.h:613: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_start_element' was here |
| 16:14.16 | lala | | svg_parser_expat.c:40: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_end_element' follows non-static declaration |
| 16:14.19 | lala | | svgint.h:617: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_end_element' was here |
| 16:14.20 | lala | | svg_parser_expat.c:45: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_characters' follows non-static declaration |
| 16:14.24 | lala | | svgint.h:622: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_characters' was here |
| 16:14.26 | lala | any idea? |
| 16:15.29 | hrw|work | ~pastebin |
| 16:15.30 | ibot | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 16:17.40 | Crofton | do you inherit pkgconfig if you use it to find stuff, or create stuff with pkgconfig files, or both? |
| 16:19.28 | lala | it happens while building gpe-image for openzaurus-3.5.4/borzoi |
| 16:21.44 | lala | i am not sure if pkgconfig is defined in the default conf files |
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| 17:10.31 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 17:10.32 | mickeyl | hi guys |
| 17:10.44 | mickeyl | Crofton: inherit pkgconfig if you want .pc files to be installed into staging area for later usage |
| 17:10.46 | mickeyl | hi R |
| 17:10.46 | mickeyl | P |
| 17:11.19 | mickeyl | RP: how is 2.6.15-rc behaving? |
| 17:11.54 | Crofton | thanks mickeyl, I broke down and read the source :) |
| 17:12.03 | RP | mickeyl: 2.6.15-rc1 isn't well tested yet due to lack of time on my part. I want to upgrade to the new SoC version before I push the .bb |
| 17:12.05 | mickeyl | heh. good strategy |
| 17:12.20 | RP | mickeyl: 2.6.14-git3 is working well though |
| 17:12.29 | mickeyl | RP: i see. I'm eager to play with DynTick which appeard in 2.6.14 something |
| 17:12.39 | mickeyl | did you have a chance to play with that? |
| 17:12.50 | RP | mickeyl: The only issue with it appeared to be cardctl eject causing a massive chain of oopes... |
| 17:12.56 | lrg | RP: FYI, new SoC (0.7) is coming tommorow |
| 17:13.09 | RP | lrg: Right - I'll wait then :) |
| 17:13.17 | mickeyl | btw., I met do13[offline] today. He's a nice guy :) |
| 17:13.38 | RP | lrg: Mainline started going a bit mad which has meant i've had other things to deal with :-/ |
| 17:14.00 | RP | mickeyl: I haven't tried dynticks. I'm not sure pxa's can do that... |
| 17:14.17 | mickeyl | RP: hmm, http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=8749af68216e1ebf6460992fce548f400ecf63a4 |
| 17:14.22 | lardman|work | Not sure it's worth it either |
| 17:14.36 | RP | mickeyl: I would say that the -git3 kernels are much improved for the cxx00 devices though and I don't want you to ship a 2.6.14-rc1 image for spitz in 3.5.4 |
| 17:15.24 | RP | mickeyl: In theroy that would suggest we can use it... |
| 17:15.38 | mickeyl | RP: I'll do some tests. |
| 17:15.56 | mickeyl | RP: hmm... ok, so you vote for 2.6.14-git14 as 3.5.4 kernel for Spitz|Akita|Borzoi ? |
| 17:16.00 | RP | mickeyl: I'm not sure what we can do about 3.5.4 and 2.6 on cxx00... |
| 17:16.31 | RP | mickeyl: I'd vote for that, yes. My only concern is the amount of upgrades we might need to pull into the release branch to pull it off |
| 17:16.56 | mickeyl | i wouldn't like that as well |
| 17:17.11 | lardman|work | re dyntick: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/13/70 |
| 17:17.36 | mickeyl | it may be more wise to ship 2.4 on these devices and package upgrade packages for 2.6 modules and the kernel |
| 17:18.04 | lardman|work | mickeyl: I think the users will certainly want 2.6.x available even if it is less stable |
| 17:18.19 | mickeyl | it's not less stable |
| 17:18.22 | mickeyl | just less complete |
| 17:18.27 | greentux | usability 2.6 on borzoi: only sound (lrg will fix this) and some reboot issues are bad |
| 17:18.29 | mickeyl | (i reckon you mean that) |
| 17:18.40 | mickeyl | what's with reboot? |
| 17:18.42 | lardman|work | yeah, sorry, getting late |
| 17:19.09 | hrw|work | greentux: and no usb client |
| 17:19.39 | RP | mickeyl: its not that much less complete now. We're just missing usbclient. Sound needs attention in the image but is getting there in kernel space |
| 17:19.48 | greentux | yes, my funny usbclient :) |
| 17:19.57 | mickeyl | i'll make my mind up about that in the next days. I'm on vacation for one week starting with Friday. I like to release 3.5.4 by the end of November if possible. |
| 17:20.08 | greentux | lrg: will MIC in be supported? |
| 17:20.17 | mickeyl | RP: I see. very good. |
| 17:20.28 | lrg | greentux: should be, I'm doing that now. |
| 17:20.30 | RP | mickeyl: I'd say release 3.5.4 as 2,4 only. We can then make 3.5.4.1 for the cxx00 machines from the .dev branch |
| 17:21.09 | RP | mickeyl: What I don't want is a load of bug reports on old 2.6 kernels which we've fixed... |
| 17:21.33 | mickeyl | I agree. It's either backport recent 2.6 or 2.4-only. Nothing in between. |
| 17:22.34 | RP | A backport would need basefiles changes, updater changes, new udev and new module-init-tools off the top of my head |
| 17:22.40 | mickeyl | eek. |
| 17:22.41 | mickeyl | NO |
| 17:22.57 | mickeyl | :) |
| 17:23.08 | RP | mickeyl: You see my concern ;-) |
| 17:23.13 | lardman|work | just as long as we say that 2.6 will be released, otherwise there will be complaints, etc. |
| 17:23.24 | mickeyl | lardman|work: *nod* I'll make that clear |
| 17:23.48 | lardman|work | not complaints, mutterings perhaps - you know what I mean |
| 17:24.02 | RP | mickeyl: I also suspect the c7x0 updater.sh is broken. Keep meaning to check |
| 17:24.16 | lardman|work | RP: why's that? |
| 17:24.37 | RP | lardman|work: I've had a broken one appear from a recent image... |
| 17:26.16 | lardman|work | RP: okay |
| 17:26.20 | RP | mickeyl: I think a 3.5.4.1 from the dev branch for cxx00 machines maybe even released at the same time as 3.5.4 would be good. It can use the 3.5.4 feeds |
| 17:26.33 | lardman|work | I'm off, night all |
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| 17:27.19 | RP | mickeyl: I'm even prepared to try and generate the images if need be although I'm suffering disk space issues... |
| 17:28.15 | mickeyl | RP: hmm, yes. |
| 17:28.34 | mickeyl | might be the best way |
| 17:29.22 | RP | or call them 3.5.5-pre1 :) |
| 17:29.33 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 17:32.50 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:32.59 | hrw|work | time to go home |
| 17:33.48 | mickeyl | cu hrw |
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| 17:34.16 | lala | is that anything to worry about: NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'linux_module_packages' is not defined while |
| 17:34.25 | lala | i get this if i do a bitbake -e |
| 17:36.59 | RP | mickeyl: I'll aim to have a 2.6.15-rc kernel in OE by Friday. That will become the dev kernel and I'll promote 2.6.14-git3 to stable as nobody's complained about it much :) |
| 17:37.57 | RP | mickeyl: Nice you met dirk btw. I'm pleased to see tosa making mainline :) |
| 17:40.54 | mickeyl | RP: ok, that sounds pretty good |
| 17:41.24 | mickeyl | RP: yeah. he's commited to continuing development, but he has very scarce time resources |
| 17:41.30 | mickeyl | wife and 2 year old kid |
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| 17:43.32 | RP | mickeyl: I can see the problem. It does take lots of time :-/ |
| 17:43.43 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 17:44.02 | mickeyl | need to leave now. I have a match lateron. bbl. |
| 17:44.05 | mickeyl | cu |
| 17:44.18 | RP | mickey|sports: ttfn |
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| 17:55.47 | greentux | rp: what chaces do u see for usbnet, reboots and cardctl eject? |
| 17:56.52 | greentux | chaces = chances... sorry, late |
| 17:56.59 | RP | greentux: Someone needs to spend time on them. My time is limited but I will do them eventually if nobody else has already. There is no timescale |
| 17:59.31 | greentux | rp: the cardctl is uggly, the other "features" i agree. |
| 18:04.28 | RP | greentux: Ugly or not, I need free time to fix it and I do so on a volunteer basis, unless someone decides to pay me or the company I work for to work on such things... |
| 18:05.44 | greentux | rp: some jobs for students we could pay, but i think its not cheap to pay the company u work for |
| 18:06.24 | greentux | rp: i will to look for a kernel-hacker-student around. perhaps there is a chance. |
| 18:08.11 | RP | greentux: You'd have to talk to my boss about what I cost (www.o-hand.com) ;-). Students are a good source of cheap labour (I was one not so long ago) :) |
| 18:08.53 | RP | greentux: Keep in mind students usually lack a device to work on... |
| 18:09.18 | greentux | rp: a device should not be the problem |
| 18:11.57 | greentux | ok, cu. good evening around |
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| 19:31.40 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 19:32.52 | koen|770 | hey pigi |
| 19:33.05 | Pigi | hey koen|770 ! |
| 19:36.27 | zecke | hey |
| 19:36.43 | zecke | koen, get me some microwave buritos |
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| 19:37.52 | gremlin[it] | ciao Pigi |
| 19:38.05 | Pigi | ciao gremlin[it] . |
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| 19:40.53 | zecke | koen, get me some microwave buritos |
| 19:42.34 | mreimer | koen, eat some fish tacos for me. I could get those in San Diego but not here |
| 19:43.30 | koen|ximian | mreimer: the ximian people have ordered pizza ;) |
| 19:44.11 | mreimer | :-) |
| 19:44.27 | koen|ximian | ~stab spam |
| 19:44.29 | ibot | ACTION runs at spam with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:44.29 | gremlin[it] | for me ... go straight with margaritas :) :) :) :) |
| 19:47.05 | Pigi | heh |
| 19:49.10 | koen|ximian | zecke: anyway, mono burritos taste much better |
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| 19:49.34 | zecke | hehe |
| 19:50.15 | zecke | gosh no jampdf in fink |
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| 19:56.46 | Pigi | has anyone tried to port kismet-qt in oe ? |
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| 20:02.22 | zecke | Pigi: no ;) |
| 20:02.53 | Pigi | I'm trying, but my c++ (un)knoledge don't help me very much ! |
| 20:08.02 | Pigi | what's the difference ( in c++ ) between #include <string.h> and #include <string> ? |
| 20:08.30 | gremlin[it] | the former are C style strings ... |
| 20:08.41 | Pigi | ah ok. |
| 20:08.48 | gremlin[it] | the latter c++ sting class |
| 20:09.44 | Pigi | so what's wrong with this method definition string Mac2String() const { ? |
| 20:10.07 | Pigi | why do I get a "error: syntax error before `)' token" |
| 20:10.39 | gremlin[it] | () are user to call a function ... |
| 20:10.47 | gremlin[it] | *used |
| 20:11.13 | gremlin[it] | not for a variable name |
| 20:11.52 | Pigi | it should be a method, not a variable ... |
| 20:12.13 | zecke | Pigi: string is stl compatible |
| 20:12.18 | zecke | Pigi: string.h is deprecated |
| 20:12.34 | gremlin[it] | try string Mac2String(void) const { |
| 20:12.36 | Pigi | that's all inside the kismet-qt :( |
| 20:12.41 | zecke | Pigi: if you use string you need to use std::string |
| 20:12.43 | Pigi | that's a good hint |
| 20:12.51 | zecke | gremlin[it]: well, it is (void) anyway in C++ |
| 20:13.42 | zecke | haha turkey lost |
| 20:13.57 | gremlin[it] | i notice sometime help ... and i like to have always a type in a funcion definition :) |
| 20:15.03 | Pigi | zecke, you were right, but isn't some sort of pragma or whatever to use old style declaration ? otherwise it will be a port of kismet-qt, not an "import" in oe :) |
| 20:15.07 | gremlin[it] | zecke or have use namespace std |
| 20:15.26 | zecke | using std::string; ;) |
| 20:15.30 | zecke | or using namespace std; |
| 20:15.37 | zecke | but not in the .h file |
| 20:16.04 | Pigi | I see. Then kismet-qt would/should be a port :) |
| 20:16.07 | gremlin[it] | ops using right ... :) |
| 20:16.29 | zecke | gremlin[it]: use could be correct as well |
| 20:17.58 | gremlin[it] | where is the 'definition' of the command to do cvs update in oe (for hh-kernel) ... |
| 20:18.14 | gremlin[it] | i need to add '-z3' ... ;( ... |
| 20:21.00 | zecke | gremlin[it]: well use ~/.cvs ? |
| 20:21.10 | zecke | gremlin[it]: or change org.oe.dev/conf/bitbake.conf |
| 20:30.11 | gremlin[it] | thanks |
| 20:31.47 | Pigi | zecke, is "int" in another namespace ? |
| 20:32.01 | Pigi | ( yeah, yeah, I know I should RTFM ) |
| 20:32.38 | gremlin[it] | no int is a base type ... |
| 20:32.48 | zecke | Pigi: it could be a type ;) |
| 20:32.59 | zecke | Pigi: int i = 10; |
| 20:33.01 | Pigi | It should. :) |
| 20:33.02 | zecke | ;) |
| 20:33.20 | Pigi | but is that I get other unusefull error ;) |
| 20:33.27 | zecke | sadly I'm still not able to compile on OS X, otherwise I would test it |
| 20:35.49 | Pigi | I will try to go on, and in worst case, I'll wait until someone would do it ;) |
| 20:38.23 | gremlin[it] | Pigi i'm here ... |
| 20:39.04 | Pigi | heh. It seems that who wrote kismet_qt wasn't almost funny in is writing abitude ;) |
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| 20:43.54 | epronk | good evening |
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| 20:44.04 | gremlin[it] | hi epronk |
| 20:44.22 | epronk | is Richard Purdie here? |
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| 20:53.33 | epronk | gremlin : never seen it so quite here :) |
| 20:54.05 | zecke | epronk: he is here ;) |
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| 21:15.51 | Pigi | it's that time |
| 21:15.54 | Pigi | nite all |
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| 22:52.03 | RP | epronk: You called? |
| 23:26.44 | epronk | RP : still there? |
| 23:33.37 | RP | epronk: yes |
| 23:38.11 | epronk | RP : thanks for handling the Philips files |
| 23:39.32 | epronk | in which tree can i find the files? Will they appear in the daily tarball on http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ ? |
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| 23:46.24 | RP | epronk: Yes, they should do |
| 23:46.33 | RP | epronk: I hope my comments we ok? |
| 23:46.56 | RP | epronk: The files will appear in the .dev branch |
| 23:50.15 | epronk | ok. yes, i agree fully with the comments. (see reply) ok, it is late -- gotta go |
| 23:50.54 | RP | epronk: ok, 'night! - late here too :) |