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| 00:30.12 | zecke | some one want to buy me http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/germanstore.woa/91406/wo/uYFUuv45tTKB33Tr7Tg1oVSY617/6.?p=0 |
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| 00:38.57 | axi | i'm trying to install openzaurus 3.5.4, but when i reset and try to flash from SD card, don't detect the updater file, what's the correct name? updater.sh? |
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| 00:43.24 | bam_ | try flashing from cf card |
| 00:53.05 | xiaowen | I've been able to install from SD card. |
| 00:55.29 | mithro | zecke: i removed all the options and it was still 3200 EUR!? |
| 00:57.31 | zecke | right |
| 00:57.39 | zecke | Quad G5 |
| 00:59.47 | zecke | done with one assignment, I'm going to bed now |
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| 01:02.38 | mithro | you can get 6 normal computers for that price! |
| 01:02.51 | zecke | all on one die? |
| 01:03.34 | zecke | actually I hope my next desktop will be an Dual/Quad ARM SMP Core |
| 01:03.52 | mithro | zecke: why? |
| 01:04.20 | zecke | due lower power consumption?! (i hope) |
| 01:04.31 | zecke | no need for cooling etc...# |
| 01:04.34 | mithro | zecke: your power bill to expensive? |
| 01:05.09 | mithro | just get a decent laptop, they don't have fans |
| 01:05.13 | zecke | mithro: that is the green party in me... |
| 01:05.28 | zecke | anyway I'm going to sleep now |
| 01:08.28 | mithro | zecke: use your computer as a heater in winter :P |
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| 04:27.59 | xiaowen | $ tail -1 build/conf/local.conf |
| 04:27.59 | xiaowen | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus = "2.6.14-git3" |
| 04:28.13 | xiaowen | Is that the correct way to ask oe to build 2.6.14-git3 instead of rc1? |
| 04:33.58 | xiaowen | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/ <- is down |
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| 05:27.34 | xiaowen | OK, 2.6.14-git3 does not patch, and after I fixed the patching problems, it doesn't compile. |
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| 06:02.57 | carter | hi |
| 06:03.16 | carter | why does can not to pull the "monotone.vanille.de" often? |
| 06:03.28 | carter | anybody can show me |
| 06:05.14 | xiaowen | I think the server is down. |
| 06:10.05 | carter | perhaps :( |
| 06:10.47 | carter | $monotone --db=OE.db pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.dev" |
| 06:10.57 | carter | monotone: network error: failed to connect: |
| 06:11.21 | carter | sometime it can do pull |
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| 06:47.31 | duck | hi everyone |
| 06:48.49 | carter | does the spitz kernel 2.6.14 support harddisk buffer? |
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| 06:59.44 | vecordia | hi RP. |
| 07:00.51 | vecordia | whether the 2.6.14kernel supports hd buffer option? |
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| 07:27.22 | alan|home | morning all |
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| 07:54.35 | vecordia | morning alan |
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| 08:17.09 | _law_ | perl 5.8.7 doesnt build http://pastebin.com/420346 (is /bin/perl5.8.7 ok?) |
| 08:19.11 | _law_ | or could ASSUME_PROVIDED += " perl-native " (in my local.conf) make the problem? |
| 08:19.37 | koen | that would be the problem |
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| 08:22.28 | _law_ | try it without this |
| 08:51.13 | XorA | morning |
| 08:56.35 | vecordia | morning xora |
| 09:07.53 | RP | morning all |
| 09:07.58 | xiaowen | Hi RP. |
| 09:08.27 | vecordia | morning RP |
| 09:08.33 | xiaowen | Boy do I have questions ... just kidding. I do, but I'll work on things a bit more before I bother people with them. ;) |
| 09:08.47 | vecordia | RP:whether the 2.6.14kernel supports hd buffer option? |
| 09:09.07 | RP | vecordia: |
| 09:09.29 | RP | vecordia: I don't understand the question. Do microdrives have buffers? |
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| 09:09.56 | RP | vecordia: They're just used as standard ide devices so if anything is available, I'd guess we use it |
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| 09:10.09 | vecordia | RP:spitz can mount a harddisk |
| 09:10.15 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:11.01 | RP | vecordia: no, but ide CF cards are very similar to harddisks |
| 09:11.47 | vecordia | RP:your mean that spitz donnot mount harddisk? |
| 09:11.59 | XorA | RP: morning, not sure what wierdness was going on with sound on fri, but it works perfect now, and Ive been testing with mplayer and seems to have less cpu load than old OSS driver |
| 09:12.24 | koen | hey ade|desk |
| 09:24.21 | katossi | I have my own image using a customized bootstrap, the problem is when I compile the image it says it doesn't find the bootstrap package, but if I compile the bootstrap it works, any clue? |
| 09:25.08 | vecordia | RP:2.6.14kernel support power management? |
| 09:27.00 | vecordia | RP:I saw that it have CONFIG_ARM=Y from the .config in the ${WORK}. |
| 09:29.20 | ggilbert | 22 |
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| 09:47.22 | RP | vecordia: Yes, it supports power management |
| 09:47.42 | RP | XorA: Its good to hear is uses less cpu :) |
| 09:49.06 | vecordia | RP:thank a lot |
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| 10:05.56 | zecke | lol |
| 10:06.14 | zecke | I'm sitting next to people doing assignments for a Security Seminar... pure haxors... |
| 10:07.55 | koen | are they 1337 too? |
| 10:08.04 | koen | or just 1336? |
| 10:13.04 | zecke | I don't know their language, but they have hacked in pascal before |
| 10:13.08 | zecke | pure magicans... |
| 10:16.33 | Twiun | pascal... with embedded asm :) |
| 10:21.15 | zecke | truely haxors, wow they use such illegal tools as strings,chmod and find |
| 10:21.35 | zecke | I bet they even stole those commands ;) |
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| 10:25.28 | hrw|work | hi |
| 10:26.15 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 10:31.04 | alan|home | hi hrw|work |
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| 10:48.56 | RP | hi hrw|work |
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| 11:09.31 | CIA-7 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r3ffc3e50... 10/: gconf-dbus: Add another path to catch all service files. |
| 11:10.32 | katossi | what means when I get : NOTE: no buildable providers for .... |
| 11:12.15 | hrw|work | katossi: exactly that |
| 11:13.09 | katossi | I have a problem with the PROVIDES statement, what is it required in a bb file? |
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| 11:27.44 | _law_ | is the monotoneserver on ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl down? update doesnt work for me :-( |
| 11:30.12 | koen | _law_: it's working over here |
| 11:47.30 | RP | hrw|work: Is 3.5.4 going to use 2.6 on the cxx00 models? |
| 11:49.03 | hrw|work | RP: mickeyl has to decide. but he will probably ask you |
| 11:49.54 | RP | hrw|work: If they are, cxx00 need to use -git3. Too many issues have been fixed since -rc1/-rc4. But pcmcia-cs doesn't work with -git3 :-( |
| 11:51.20 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 11:58.13 | schurig | RP: pcmcia-cs should die, pccardutils rocks :-) |
| 11:58.39 | hrw|work | pcmciautils you mean |
| 11:58.57 | koen | RP: how well does the stock rootfs cope with pcmciautils? |
| 11:59.19 | schurig | hrw|work: maybe, let me check my bookmarks. The one that works with sysfs and hotplug. I use it on two of the three devices I maintain. It's nice & fast |
| 11:59.34 | hrw|work | schurig: pcmciautils it is |
| 11:59.36 | schurig | hrw|work: but I have anything but the stock rootfs :-) |
| 12:00.25 | schurig | hrw|work: yes. I said pccardutils because it's now "pccardctl" and no longer "cardctl" :-) |
| 12:01.32 | hrw|work | sure |
| 12:01.37 | schurig | for example, this crappy Agere wlan driver that I ported from 2.4 to 2.6 had wrong "in-use" counts when using pcmcia-cs. Now it works as expected. |
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| 12:07.29 | RP | koen: We need to add network interface control infrastructure, then it would be fine |
| 12:08.48 | koen | RP: you ifup after the drivers has registered a network device? |
| 12:08.52 | katossi | RP: is pcmcia-cs responsible for cf-sd cards in the akita? |
| 12:08.54 | koen | s/yuo/you mean/ |
| 12:08.59 | RP | hrw|work: Did you use the lastest module-init-tools package? |
| 12:09.07 | hrw|work | RP: iirc pre9 |
| 12:09.16 | hrw|work | checking... |
| 12:09.17 | RP | hrw|work: That was all I needed to change... |
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| 12:09.25 | hrw|work | 3.2-pre9 |
| 12:09.42 | RP | koen: That plan is to do that but it doesn't happen as of yet... |
| 12:09.45 | RP | hrw|work: That should be fine |
| 12:09.51 | hrw|work | 3.2-pre9-r0 to be exact |
| 12:10.24 | RP | katossi: udev scripts are responsible for cf/sd mounting now |
| 12:10.30 | katossi | ok |
| 12:13.55 | hrw|work | RP: can we get rid of that: Nov 7 11:53:42 c7x0 user.warn kernel: CPU0: I cache: 32768 bytes, associativity 32, 32 byte lines, 32 sets |
| 12:13.59 | hrw|work | RP: ? |
| 12:15.53 | koen | warning! you have cache! |
| 12:26.04 | hrw|work | hmm.. where in udev/hotplug scripts I can 'hook' to get info what is going on? setting DEBUG in pcmcia.agent and pcmcia_socket.agent is not enough.. |
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| 12:29.27 | schurig | hrw|work: /etc/hotplug.d/default/default.hotplug? (Not sure if you have this file) |
| 12:29.52 | schurig | hrw|work: because my filesystem is quite different from normal OE ones |
| 12:30.34 | schurig | hrw|work: if you have it, there's a line "# DEBUG=yes export DEBUG" that you can uncomment, then you see what hotplug events are going on via syslog (logread with busybox) |
| 12:31.47 | hrw|work | schurig: ok |
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| 12:35.47 | RP | hrw|work: I don't think hotplug events happen any more on a default OE image |
| 12:36.14 | RP | hrw|work: rmk has submitted a patch to remove that message about cpu_info in more recent kernels so it will disappear soon |
| 12:36.33 | hrw|work | RP: ok. so where I can hook to get info which card is inserted into pcmcia slot? |
| 12:37.03 | RP | hrw|work: Depends on the kind of card. You'll probably have to watch udev |
| 12:37.25 | hrw|work | RP: currently my Z works like pccardctl know which card is in slot but no module loading occure |
| 12:40.08 | RP | hrw|work: can you check which modprobe you have as the update alternatives link - busybox or module-init-tools? |
| 12:40.50 | hrw|work | root@c7x0:~# modprobe -V |
| 12:40.50 | hrw|work | module-init-tools version 3.2-pre9 |
| 12:51.56 | RP | hrw|work: udevmonitor gives some info. You need to see whether the calls in the pcmcia script in /etc/udev/rules.d get made... |
| 12:52.51 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:53.57 | hrw|work | UEVENT[1131366679] remove@/devices/platform/sharp-scoop/pxa2xx-pcmcia.0/0.0 |
| 12:53.57 | hrw|work | UEVENT[1131366684] add@/devices/platform/sharp-scoop/pxa2xx-pcmcia.0/0.0 |
| 12:53.59 | hrw|work | thats all |
| 12:55.26 | hrw|work | hmm.. when I have dtl1_cs loaded I also got: UEVENT[1131366761] add@/class/bluetooth/hci0 |
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| 12:57.11 | RP | hrw|work: I'm having a look here as well... |
| 12:57.26 | katossi | RP: is this line : PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus = "2.6.14-git3" enough to compile and install the git3 kernel? |
| 12:57.59 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf9edd59c... 10/: gconf-dbus: unbreak it with patch from .dev, courtesy Florian Boor and Patrick Steiner |
| 12:58.14 | RP | katossi: hopefully, yes |
| 12:58.19 | hrw|work | RP: use --env |
| 12:58.41 | RP | hrw|work: I just tried pcmciautils here and it worked for my orinoco card |
| 12:59.05 | RP | It didn't come up with it inserted durging booting but it did load the driver once I pulled it out and reinserted it |
| 12:59.35 | RP | hrw|work: I'd check your card does have an entry in the devices table in the kernel driver |
| 12:59.53 | hrw|work | RP: it has - I added patch to 2.6 kernels months ago |
| 13:00.03 | hrw|work | root@c7x0:~# modprobe pcmcia:m0104c009FfFEfn00pfn00paB38BCC2EpbE732BAE3pc00000000pd00000000 |
| 13:00.06 | hrw|work | works ok |
| 13:00.25 | hrw|work | RP: do you have something in /etc/udev/scripts/ other then mount.sh? |
| 13:00.35 | RP | hrw|work: change modprobe to a script and see if udev calls it |
| 13:00.39 | RP | hrw|work: no |
| 13:01.43 | RP | hrw|work: Have your script print out the modprobe params... |
| 13:02.23 | hrw|work | ok ok - now I have other idea to check |
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| 13:22.19 | hrw|work | RP: I wrote simple script which load/remove module on add/remove event on pcmcia bus |
| 13:23.30 | RP | hrw|work: but it should do it with the scripts that are there :-/ |
| 13:24.00 | hrw|work | RP: there was only one script: mount.sh |
| 13:26.21 | RP | hrw|work: Looks at /etc/udev/rules.d/60-pcmcia.rules - it calls modprobe from there |
| 13:26.32 | RP | or should do... |
| 13:26.54 | hrw|work | root@c7x0:/etc/udev/rules.d# ls |
| 13:26.54 | hrw|work | local.rules permissions.rules udev.rules |
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| 13:27.32 | RP | hrw|work: Are you using the most recent pcmcuiautils package? |
| 13:27.44 | hrw|work | 010-r0 |
| 13:27.55 | hrw|work | OE has r3 |
| 13:28.03 | RP | hrw|work: upgrade ;-) |
| 13:28.17 | hrw|work | will |
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| 13:41.09 | hrw|work | RP: ok. works now |
| 13:41.16 | zecke | hey |
| 13:41.19 | zecke | mithro: there? |
| 13:41.29 | hrw|work | Nov 7 13:11:05 c7x0 user.notice kernel: Eep. Child "jeden_na_jeden.html" (ino #6492) of dir ino #6366 doesn't exist! |
| 13:42.07 | hrw|work | Is there a way to finally fix that error? I get it each time when I mount /home/ and it is for few files which get removed from filesystem days ago |
| 13:44.12 | ade|desk | whats the best way to gcj being built in gcc-cross ? |
| 13:44.24 | ade|desk | +stop |
| 13:45.27 | ade|desk | what's the best way to stop gcj being built in gcc-cross? is a better way to say that |
| 13:46.51 | koen|uni | hrw|work: backup /home, erase flash, put back files |
| 13:50.56 | RP | hrw|work: Or, totally fill the partition with random data in a large file |
| 13:54.21 | koen|uni | would it make sense to add (g)parted to the c3xxx (gpe)images? |
| 13:54.52 | RP | koen|uni: probably although I think there have been various disk utils added already |
| 13:55.11 | RP | microdrive space is pleantiful though :) |
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| 14:02.50 | ade|desk | :) at last no sodding java |
| 14:03.10 | koen|uni | ~lart java |
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| 14:43.27 | chouimat | morning |
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| 17:10.04 | katossi | when I compile my customized image, that includes the package xxx-bootstrap I get the following error: cannot find package xxx-bootstrap |
| 17:10.39 | katossi | but if I try to bitbake xxx-bootstrap it works, why does the former thing not work? |
| 17:12.00 | katossi | the most weird thing is the image fails in the do_rootfs stage |
| 17:16.08 | katossi | xxx-bootstrap is a modified task-bootstrap bb file, is it special and that's why my mod is not working? |
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| 17:23.50 | _law_ | any ideas why abiword wound start? http://pastebin.com/420720 |
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| 19:07.40 | magnet | hi |
| 19:07.50 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
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| 19:14.05 | gremlin[it] | mhhh a question ... is the nokia a good "substitute" as an handheld respect to an ipaq or zaurus ? |
| 19:23.57 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r153be473... 10/: gconf-dbus: fix wrong installation path for service file |
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| 20:09.07 | RP | gremlin[it]: depends what you want. I generally need a keyboard... |
| 20:09.40 | gremlin[it] | RP, just cause seem it cost less than usual ipaq :) ... |
| 20:09.54 | gremlin[it] | and i like a big screen. |
| 20:11.55 | RP | gremlin[it]: They're nice devices but I have a C3000 :) |
| 20:13.21 | gremlin[it] | i was i doubt between an ipaw hx27xx or zaurus 3100 ... and now also nokia :) ... |
| 20:14.53 | RP | the 3100 isn't much different to the 3000 - I'd go for the 3000 as you're not going to need the extra flash really... |
| 20:15.04 | RP | but then I am biased towards Zaurii |
| 20:15.15 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:15.20 | hardwire | debian mips is going to dissolve :( |
| 20:15.36 | RP | The Cxx00 are quie bulky compared to the c7x0... |
| 20:17.43 | hardwire | I can't believe you guys can afford this shit |
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| 20:19.05 | RP | hardwire: The c3000 is company provided ;-) |
| 20:20.49 | gremlin[it] | i have to buy myself ... but i can buy directly in japan :) ... |
| 20:22.20 | pb_ | gremlin[it]: being obliged to buy yourself does sound harsh |
| 20:23.31 | gremlin[it] | I play with linux for passion ... not for work :( |
| 20:23.47 | RP | gremlin[it]: My c7x0 was bought by me... |
| 20:23.55 | gremlin[it] | i would find a company with i can work with linux ... :( |
| 20:24.22 | gremlin[it] | i buy my old h3600 in may 2000 ... and 2 week later it had linux inside ;) ... |
| 20:28.05 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.40 | alan|home | ouch... helicopters are flying all over my city... |
| 20:28.41 | RP | I'll make the move to the internal module for the 2.6 Zaurii... |
| 20:30.27 | pb_ | alan|home: heh, is your city full of burning vehicles? |
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| 20:43.12 | hardwire | kergoth: poke of mighty neeed |
| 20:44.14 | CosmicPenguin | errr... |
| 20:46.15 | hardwire | ? |
| 20:47.01 | CosmicPenguin | nm |
| 20:47.16 | hardwire | you bet your cosmic ass nm |
| 20:47.23 | hardwire | ugh.. |
| 20:47.24 | hardwire | sorry |
| 20:47.27 | hardwire | g/f is being ap oo |
| 20:47.30 | hardwire | a poo |
| 20:48.40 | CosmicPenguin | thats random |
| 20:49.17 | hardwire | well she is a poo |
| 20:49.20 | hardwire | you can't deny it |
| 20:49.36 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think I'm in a position to affirm or deny it |
| 20:50.20 | gremlin[it] | mhhh sorry my english is poor .. what's "a poo" ??? |
| 20:51.43 | CosmicPenguin | I wish I knew more Italian swear words, I could explain |
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| 21:26.55 | gremlin[it] | big question : why to build the kernel (hanhelds-sa-2.6) u do "(echo N; echo m; echo N) | oe_runmake oldconfig" ... this loop forever cause one of the question expect a number as answer !!! :( |
| 21:27.45 | pb_ | that is unfortunate |
| 21:28.34 | gremlin[it] | at least for h3600 don't work |
| 21:28.58 | pb_ | sounds like you need to update the defconfig |
| 21:29.56 | gremlin[it] | moreover ... exactly .bb file do a install h3600_defconfig to .config and after a 'make oldconfig' ... thet don't work ... |
| 21:30.08 | gremlin[it] | doing 'make h3600_defconfig' work ... |
| 21:31.01 | hardwire | gremlin[it]: you know.. poo |
| 21:31.06 | hardwire | doodiehead |
| 21:31.28 | gremlin[it] | "poo" ??? |
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| 21:37.23 | gremlin[it] | ok now handhelds-sa-2.6 compile for h3600 :) |
| 21:37.55 | gremlin[it] | where i can send patch for .bb file ? |
| 21:39.17 | koen | bugs.openembedded.org |
| 21:39.33 | gremlin[it] | can i tell u directly koen ??? :) |
| 21:40.40 | gremlin[it] | mhh i open a new bug and post the solution ? |
| 21:40.56 | koen | yes |
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| 21:42.40 | gremlin[it] | ... ok is time to create also an acocunt ;) :) :) |
| 21:46.45 | alan|home | pb_: yeah... |
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| 21:47.41 | alan|home | mmm... "No space left on device"... too bad... |
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| 21:49.28 | kergoth | hardwire: hm/ |
| 21:49.34 | kergoth | gf is in town, wont be online much |
| 21:49.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:49.51 | hardwire | kergoth: go get bent |
| 21:49.59 | hardwire | really.. I mean it.. have fun :) |
| 21:51.57 | gremlin[it] | i have to post the bug anc answer or i can put all toghether ? |
| 21:54.41 | gremlin[it] | i did myself ;) .. i hope is the right way :) |
| 21:54.49 | gremlin[it] | byeee is late for me ... |
| 21:55.03 | gremlin[it] | good night |
| 21:55.05 | hardwire | kergoth: how long is she in town? |
| 21:56.48 | pb_ | hi kergoth |
| 22:02.11 | gremlin[it] | koen, i sent the patch ... i hope this is the right way :) |
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