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| 00:11.37 | Zero_Chaos | away |
| 00:11.41 | Zero_Chaos | doh |
| 00:11.51 | Zero_Chaos | how do I make an empty patch section? |
| 00:11.58 | Zero_Chaos | do_patch() {} |
| 00:11.58 | Zero_Chaos | ? |
| 00:14.21 | Zero_Chaos | I don't need to patch anything, yet it keeps failing on do_patch. How do I make it acknoledge that there is no patching and it should just succeed? |
| 00:19.42 | Zero_Chaos | I don't need to patch or configure... but it fails... can anyone help me? |
| 00:24.11 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: well, please paste the 'patch error' |
| 00:24.18 | zecke | and your bb file |
| 00:24.30 | zecke | it will only apply a patch if you have something like |
| 00:24.39 | zecke | file://moo.foo;patch=1 |
| 00:26.50 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: pastebin.ca/27663 is both of my .bb files (the one for the headers and the main program). The headers work fine, just as I want, but the other one is a MESS and I have no idea what to do. |
| 00:27.32 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: I'm trying to pass some options to make as you can tell, and I have no idea what I'm doing. |
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| 00:27.51 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: and like I said, it fails on do_patch, then on do_configure, then on do_compile |
| 00:29.28 | Zero_Chaos | brb |
| 00:31.28 | zecke | sorry I'm too tired to think three thoughts straight |
| 00:31.39 | zecke | you would need to paste the error as well |
| 00:49.29 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: pastebin.ca/27671 |
| 00:53.33 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: considered looking into the script that failed? |
| 00:57.50 | Zero_Chaos | it's do_patch, and I'm not trying to patch |
| 00:59.26 | Zero_Chaos | got to go, sorry |
| 00:59.27 | Zero_Chaos | thanks |
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| 03:52.07 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: still awake by any chance? |
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| 06:28.24 | xiaowen | RP: Do you have documentation on the SCOOP chip or device? |
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| 07:10.28 | orangey | hey all! |
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| 09:05.48 | RP | xiaowen: Only what you read in the driver or is in my head... |
| 09:06.27 | xiaowen | RP: So you wrote the 2.6 driver based entirely on what you read in 2.4? |
| 09:06.58 | RP | xiaowen: yes |
| 09:07.17 | RP | xiaowen: Although I do now have a fairly good idea of what the thing does... |
| 09:07.38 | xiaowen | Hehe. |
| 09:08.18 | xiaowen | I'm trying to see how LEDs get implemented. In 2.4, it looks like they just write to 0xf2200064. |
| 09:08.45 | RP | The scoop chips have gpios. You write to the scoop gpio register to turn them on and off |
| 09:10.51 | xiaowen | OK, my questions might sound stupid, sorry .. |
| 09:11.11 | xiaowen | So you have GPIOs in the PXA255, and those are connected to the SCOOP somehow? |
| 09:11.37 | RP | no, the pxa gpios are totally seperate from the extra ones on scoop |
| 09:12.09 | RP | scoop is more than just the gpios - its a buffer chip for the CF interface which just happens to provide the gpios as an extra |
| 09:12.34 | xiaowen | And this buffer chip also controls the LEDs? |
| 09:12.42 | RP | On some devices |
| 09:13.11 | xiaowen | Is this buffer chip memory mapped on the CPU, so my job is to find what the memory address is? |
| 09:13.27 | RP | The 2.6 driver tells you all this |
| 09:13.42 | xiaowen | Where? |
| 09:13.54 | xiaowen | For which device? |
| 09:13.59 | RP | Are you wanting to play under 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 09:14.04 | xiaowen | 2.6. |
| 09:14.09 | RP | which machine? |
| 09:14.12 | xiaowen | tosa |
| 09:17.45 | RP | set_scoop_gpio(&tosascoop_jc_device.dev, TOSA_SCOOP_JC_NOTE_LED) |
| 09:17.46 | RP | reset_scoop_gpio(&tosascoop_jc_device.dev, TOSA_SCOOP_JC_NOTE_LED) |
| 09:18.03 | RP | There's a nice big hint about what you're trying to do ;-) |
| 09:18.41 | xiaowen | I'm sure I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :) |
| 09:18.49 | RP | lookup some of those names if you want to see how it works |
| 09:19.13 | RP | Those two lines of code will turn the led on and then off again |
| 09:20.00 | xiaowen | Did you just write that or is that in the source? I don't see it. |
| 09:20.53 | RP | Look for set_scoop_gpio which is in the scoop driver (scoop.c). Also look for the scoop device declared in tosa.c. The LEDs are declared in the tosa machine header file tosa.h |
| 09:21.04 | RP | Combine them and you can turn the LEDs on and off... |
| 09:21.32 | RP | tosa probably doesn't do led support yet so there is no code matching the above exactly... |
| 09:22.04 | RP | I have other things I need to do so you'll have to figure anything else out for yourself I'm afraid |
| 09:22.41 | xiaowen | OK, while I go investigate (bang my head) some more, can you please explain arch/arm/mach-pxa/generic.c:standard_io_desc? What's the physical address? |
| 09:23.07 | xiaowen | (Yes, according to the status page, it doesn't, that's why I'm trying. -_-) |
| 09:24.07 | xiaowen | I looked at the memory map diagram in the PXA255 developer's manual, and I guess that lists virtual addresses, so where is the physical address coming from? |
| 09:24.37 | orangey | dudes: How can I "package" something? |
| 09:25.03 | orangey | hrw made kdepimpi-x11 compile, but lost interest / has no time, so I want to package his work. |
| 09:25.22 | orangey | is there a good instruction set somewhere close by for that? |
| 09:26.03 | xiaowen | I've no idea sorry. I (re)started looking at this yesterday. -_- |
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| 09:44.47 | RP | xiaowen: You have physical addresses which are where things are really located and virutal ones which is the address you write to as a device driver. The MMU translates between the two. |
| 09:45.21 | RP | SCOOP used to have a fixed mapping under 2.4. Under 2.6, it gets remapped with ioremap (in scoop.c) |
| 09:45.47 | RP | However you don't really need to know all this |
| 09:52.15 | xiaowen | LDD talked about ioremap ... but I think I never understood where the physical address came from. They gave an example of writing to a parallel port, but I didn't get how they knew what the address of the parallel port is ... |
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| 09:55.56 | RP | xiaowen: Its a feature of the hardware - where the physical chips address lines are wired to |
| 09:56.20 | RP | tosa.c declares the physical addresses of its scoop chips |
| 09:59.12 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: sorry no |
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| 10:09.11 | xiaowen | Oh I see. In 2.4, they created the mapping with tosa.c:tosa_map_io:iotable_init |
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| 10:10.08 | xiaowen | And that mapped the virtual to physical addresses for TC6393 (which I could also find no docs for), two SCOOP2 devices, and Nor Flash. |
| 10:10.46 | RP | xiaowen: correct. Under 2.6 we use ioremap instead |
| 10:12.17 | RP | xiaowen: You'll probably find its a PROM, not NOR flash |
| 10:12.41 | xiaowen | I have no idea. The code says "Nor Flash". |
| 10:12.59 | RP | xiaowen: On a dev system it would have been but not on the production devices |
| 10:13.39 | xiaowen | Can you please tell me how you develop? Do you basically write it, then flash it, and see if it works? |
| 10:13.58 | xiaowen | Do you use any handy tools you can recommend me? |
| 10:14.38 | RP | xiaowen: Near enough, yes. For what you're doing you can probably write it as a module to save reflashing all the time |
| 10:14.49 | RP | quilt is the only tool I'd recommend |
| 10:18.55 | xiaowen | I don't see myself generating enough code any time soon to need a patch manager. -_- |
| 10:19.32 | xiaowen | <- has been staring at the code all evening and not written a single line. I see this trend continuing for a while hehe. |
| 10:20.44 | RP | Its useful, even for a single patch. Lets you take you work off one kernel and apply it to another |
| 10:23.30 | xiaowen | It still creates one direct mapping without ioremap for the boot flash. Why doesn't it use ioremap there? |
| 10:27.20 | RP | xiaowen: I think it does and that can probably be removed |
| 10:27.40 | RP | I thought it had been removed actually... |
| 10:28.21 | xiaowen | I'm looking at linux-openzaurus-2.6.14-rc1-r3, which I built yesterday, with monotone database that I checked out the day before. |
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| 10:34.26 | RP | xiaowen: I suspect 2.6.14-git3 has that removed |
| 10:39.33 | koen | RP: is 2.6.14-git3 2.6.14 release + patches? |
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| 10:40.35 | koen | it that's the case calling it 2.6.14+git3 might be more OE-like versioning |
| 10:40.59 | koen | not that it really matters, though |
| 10:41.55 | RP | koen: 2.6.14-git3 is an official kernel version (from kernel.org) |
| 10:42.13 | koen | I see |
| 10:43.04 | alan|home | hi all ! |
| 10:43.18 | RP | morning pb_, alan|home |
| 10:43.22 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 10:44.09 | pb_ | regarding "2.6.14-git3", it is true that this is not a legitimate version string for ipkg, nor really for OE. Neither permits hyphens in the version. |
| 10:44.51 | alan|home | Do you know the Mister House project ? I wonder how hard it would be to include it in OE... |
| 10:46.54 | RP | pb_: A quick glance at the packages/linux directory says we have a big problem then... |
| 10:47.15 | RP | What should they all be using? |
| 10:47.28 | xiaowen | Does "I/O memory" just mean that some range of physical addresses can be used by the kernel to access memory on a peripheral? |
| 10:48.27 | xiaowen | Whereas "I/O ports" is a separate address space that can be mapped to the same virtual address space? |
| 10:48.51 | pb_ | RP: pretty much anything else. If you replace the hyphen with a plus sign, or a dot, or nothing, that would be fine. |
| 10:49.18 | pb_ | That said, if you aren't currently experiencing any problems, you might as well just leave them alone. I don't expect that either ipkg or OE is likely to start taking a hard line against hyphens in versions any time soon. |
| 10:49.36 | RP | pb_: Why the problem with hypens in particular if anything else goes? |
| 10:50.06 | RP | xiaowen: arm doesn't have i/o ports - everything is memory mapped |
| 10:50.21 | xiaowen | I think hyphens aren't allowed in variable names in variable names in python (my guess). |
| 10:50.31 | xiaowen | -in variable names |
| 10:50.43 | pb_ | RP: because hyphens are the traditional separator between PV and PR. |
| 10:51.05 | pb_ | and also, in OE terms, between PN and PV. |
| 10:52.09 | xiaowen | OK, that makes more sense. :) |
| 10:53.26 | RP | pb_: ok, that makes a lot of sense. I guess the current implementation must just look for the first and last ones and ignore any in the middle :) |
| 10:54.38 | pb_ | RP: yeah, exactly. |
| 10:57.33 | pb_ | With our current codebase, it should pretty much work fine. But there may be some corner cases where it doesn't, either now or in the future. Avoiding the use of hyphens will minimize the risk of any unpleasant surprises. |
| 10:59.23 | pb_ | It's also worth pointing out that strings like "2.6.14-rc1" are even worse, because both ipkg and oe will sort that as newer than plain "2.6.14". (They will also sort -git as newer, but I guess that's what you want in this case.) |
| 11:00.21 | RP | Yes, I'm ware of that issue but the hypen makes do difference to that problem. For the next rc's, I'll be using a different form of versioning... |
| 11:00.53 | RP | pb_: We could also always start to accept hypens in PV only and make sure they get removed from PV strings for processing in ipkg |
| 11:02.28 | pb_ | That would be possible, but I'm not sure what it would really buy you. Any kind of version munging like that has the potential to introduce unexpected behaviour in the output packages. |
| 11:03.29 | pb_ | bbiab |
| 11:03.55 | xiaowen | It looks like the code doesn't use something like request_region to request iomem resources. Why not? |
| 11:04.23 | RP | pb_: Everything works as things stand so I'm just saying an alternative would be to accept hypens in PV and just make sure that continues to work. I don't have a strong opinion about it but it just perhaps seems the easier way to move forward :) |
| 11:04.30 | RP | Out of interest, why the does OE use _ as the separator between PN and PV in .bb file names? |
| 11:05.52 | xiaowen | Maybe that's only for io ports. |
| 11:06.00 | RP | xiaowen: I suspect the platform device model might take care of that |
| 11:06.20 | RP | xiaowen: If you cat /proc/iomem, you can see scoop does get registered |
| 11:06.54 | xiaowen | Yes, they do. |
| 11:10.48 | xiaowen | Thank you RP. I'm now going to go to sleep. I shall read the device model chapter first thing tomorrow and then figure out what this platform device model stuff is. |
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| 11:18.40 | koen | that would also mean that foo-1.2+cvs-20051023 isn't correct |
| 11:19.59 | Noodles | Patch ipkg instead. ;) |
| 11:20.17 | koen | versioning in OE is a mess regardless of packagemanager :( |
| 11:23.02 | RP | koen: Agreed. We need to have a policy on this... |
| 11:23.45 | RP | Personally, I think that policy could say we allow hypens, but we need a policy |
| 11:24.44 | RP | It needs to cover the preferred version format for cvs and whether svn should be cvs or svn. personally, I think svn should be svn. I also think SVNDATE should start being used |
| 11:25.06 | RP | Yes, it will cause some short term chaos :-/ |
| 11:26.14 | koen | could you send a mail to oe@ about that |
| 11:26.32 | koen | ? |
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| 11:27.34 | RP | koen: will do. |
| 11:27.43 | koen | thanks |
| 11:31.31 | zecke | ljp: ping |
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| 11:48.07 | RP | koen: mail sent |
| 11:49.36 | koen | reading it right now |
| 11:50.26 | koen | RP: no hyphens in PN? |
| 11:50.40 | koen | what about foo-dev-0.0 ? |
| 11:50.48 | RP | koen: See my discussion with pb_ |
| 11:51.12 | RP | ipkg and friends need to be able to tell where pn, pv and pr start/end |
| 11:51.51 | koen | D'oh |
| 11:51.59 | RP | You're right though, we have packages with hypens in the name :-/ |
| 11:52.04 | koen | in foo-dev-0.0 foo is the PN |
| 11:52.29 | koen | which results in foo-dev_0.0.ipk <- note the underscore |
| 11:53.12 | RP | So why the problem with hyphens if underscore is the seperator? |
| 11:53.56 | zecke | mreimer_: the buildworld and buildkernel, installworld, installkerne went smooth |
| 11:54.07 | RP | pb_: help as I'm very confused now... |
| 11:54.29 | zecke | mreimer_: I'm considering going to 7.0-CURRENT |
| 12:01.45 | RP | koen: I've replied to my own mail addressing this |
| 12:04.50 | koen | heh, I just pressed send before reading this |
| 12:05.18 | koen | I agree on most points with your mail |
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| 12:41.37 | zecke | do we have a hello.bb file to build the GNU Hello World binary? |
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| 13:11.43 | mithro | zecke: ping :P |
| 13:13.50 | pb__ | hi Twiun |
| 13:14.17 | Twiun | hey pb__ |
| 13:18.50 | mithro | hey pb_, what you do for fun? |
| 13:21.27 | Twiun | mithro, pb__ sleeps for fun I think - everything waking hour is filled with work :) |
| 13:23.46 | mithro | he he |
| 13:23.49 | mithro | Hey Twiun |
| 13:23.55 | mithro | you still a Java junkie? |
| 13:24.04 | Twiun | yup |
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| 13:32.24 | zecke | koen: I did not know lorn was subscribed on maemo-dev |
| 13:32.43 | zecke | mithro: hey, get me at 18h (until them my time is scheduled for assignments) |
| 13:33.31 | zecke | while I think KDE is a better platform than WIN32, .NET and GNOME I find http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2005-July/000639.html very amusing |
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| 13:35.06 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 13:35.13 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 13:35.27 | gremlin[it] | i have a problem compiling kernel for h3600 usting oe/bitbake |
| 13:35.43 | zecke | The only thing I don't linke about maemo (besides written in C) is I know Nokia is evil. I mean really really evil |
| 13:35.51 | gremlin[it] | it remain stucked at 'configure' ... |
| 13:36.10 | gremlin[it] | seem it loop forever in 'make oldconfig' or something like |
| 13:36.46 | gremlin[it] | hitting Ctrl-C one time i see (forever) all the output 'make oldconfing' do ... hititng again all stop ... ... |
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| 13:40.28 | lucasvo | koen: which bootloader version should one take for flashing the hx4700? |
| 13:40.59 | koen | the latest |
| 13:41.03 | koen | 1.19 or something |
| 13:41.19 | lucasvo | koen: but 3.19 > 1.19 ? |
| 13:42.27 | lucasvo | koen: it doesn't work... |
| 13:43.03 | lucasvo | when I copy it on sd card and put sdcard into device-> do itask+contacts+restet it ignores the sdcard... |
| 13:57.48 | lucasvo | koen: do you know what I could have done wrong? |
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| 14:56.00 | rob_w | hi |
| 14:56.04 | rob_w | so i dont get it ,, now when i want a "uptodate build " i need to rebuild that monotone db , which takes ages , right ? or how do i now keep my oe uptodate ? |
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| 16:30.22 | orangey | hrw|gone: I'm still trying to pack up kdepimpi-x11. At this stage, I can get it compiled, but I'm not sure what the packing considerations are.. is there a page around that addresses them? |
| 16:32.53 | koen | mostly the LSB |
| 16:33.32 | koen | in general: app in ${bindir} and libs in ${libdir} |
| 16:35.35 | orangey | koen: so is it reasonable to pack up all the libs from ${libdir} into a package like kdepimpi-x11-libs ? |
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| 16:36.38 | gremlin[it] | hi to all ... |
| 16:37.11 | gremlin[it] | building handhelds-sa-2.6-2.6.12-hh0+cvs20051103 i got a log.do_configure of about 2.5G ... :( ... |
| 16:40.51 | koen | gremlin[it]: in that case the defconfing isn't correct |
| 16:41.41 | koen | orangey: you could, but only if other packages use those libs too |
| 16:43.06 | gremlin[it] | any solution koen ? |
| 16:43.28 | koen | run it trough oldconfig by hand |
| 16:44.55 | gremlin[it] | i try but compile fail ;( |
| 16:45.16 | gremlin[it] | exactly i do 'make h3600-defconfig' |
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| 16:45.52 | gremlin[it] | create a fake stamps file for do_configure ... and the relaunch bitbake ... but fail |
| 16:51.05 | AvengerMoJo | anyone good in gtk and image manipulation? |
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| 17:31.26 | orangey | hmm.. I have no "old gunzip process", but I keep getting the following: # ipkg install libqt-mt3_3.3.5-r10_armv5te.ipk \ ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting |
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| 17:38.03 | pH5 | good evening |
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| 19:52.28 | zecke | hrw|gone: isn't QPF the prefered form anyway? |
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| 20:03.36 | orangey | zecke: I think I got kdepimpi-x11 compiled! |
| 20:03.43 | zecke | congrats |
| 20:03.59 | orangey | zecke: thanks : ) |
| 20:04.11 | orangey | zecke: a question, though: I can't seem to find where it put the binaries.. |
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| 20:12.45 | gremlin[it] | the kernel problem seem cause the new kernel have new questions that old h3600_defconfig .config isn't able to answer ;( |
| 20:13.35 | gremlin[it] | really bad ... compiling h3600.o ... got a lof of errors !!! |
| 20:19.26 | zecke | orangey: binary as in 'ipk' or as in executable? |
| 20:23.47 | orangey | zecke: as in 'executable'. the ipk has not been assigned by the person who patched the code.. |
| 20:26.30 | zecke | orangey: well search for it ;) |
| 20:26.38 | zecke | tmp/work/kdepimp*/* |
| 20:26.57 | zecke | And I do not understand "ipk has not been assigned" |
| 20:27.07 | zecke | The ipk is created after compiling (normally) |
| 20:29.54 | orangey | zecke: somebody has to say what goes on in the ipk, right? |
| 20:30.08 | orangey | zecke: the author didn't finish it, apparently |
| 20:30.28 | zecke | orangey: well who is the author? |
| 20:30.39 | zecke | orangey: normally you have a FILES += "wildcards" |
| 20:30.44 | zecke | to say what files to ship |
| 20:34.54 | orangey | zecke: hrw did it.. |
| 20:35.01 | alan|xchat | hi |
| 20:35.05 | orangey | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 |
| 20:35.09 | orangey | zecke: see above |
| 20:36.28 | alan|xchat | what is the point in including locale-base-de-de and local-base-fr-fr in the GPE image (3.5.4RC) when the only available language for GPE is english ? |
| 20:37.54 | alan|xchat | mmm... ok, then i didn't do anything bad : the 23.4mo GPE image is too much for my c750... I thought it was a new and lighter image, but no... |
| 20:40.57 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: hey man, got a few minutes to help me with that .bb that I can't get working? |
| 20:44.43 | zecke | no promise |
| 20:45.13 | zecke | orangey: kdepimpix11 is using 'qmake' for building? |
| 20:45.17 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: hey man, you offered to help me before, I'm not looking for a promise, just some help. |
| 20:45.19 | zecke | orangey: there must be a .pro file for it |
| 20:45.29 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: paste the file and the error you see |
| 20:45.38 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and explain what you want to achieve |
| 20:45.51 | Zero_Chaos | yup yup... no problem, I get that all up to pastbin, give me a few |
| 20:46.11 | zecke | orangey: then in this .pro file you have a 'DESTDIR' (or not) and you have a TARGET (or not) |
| 20:51.46 | orangey | zecke: yeah, it uses qmake |
| 20:51.59 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27720 |
| 20:52.07 | zecke | orangey: well the binary is either in DESTDIR or in '.' (where you compile) |
| 20:53.09 | orangey | zecke: OK. |
| 20:54.09 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: please tar the tmp/work/void11-* and send it to freyther@gmx.net |
| 20:55.00 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: okay.... but what do I type to tar it up ? :-) (I only ever untar things) |
| 20:55.35 | RP | tar -cvzf somefile.tgz somefiles |
| 20:57.21 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: alternatively paste /home/zaurus/src/build/tmp/work/void11-0.2.0-r0/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.2248 |
| 20:58.33 | orangey | zecke: any idea what this is: |
| 20:58.40 | orangey | # ipkg install libqt-mt3_3.3.5-r10_armv5te.ipk \ ipkg: *** Couldnt kill old gunzip process *** aborting |
| 21:00.10 | zecke | orangey: no |
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| 21:03.21 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 21:04.13 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27721 |
| 21:05.18 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: please mail me that file |
| 21:05.20 | orangey | pigi!!!!!!!! |
| 21:05.30 | orangey | Pigi: any progress on kdepimpi-x11? |
| 21:05.45 | orangey | Pigi: I am now sorta able to compile it. |
| 21:05.59 | Pigi | hi orangey, yes and not..... I got it compiled, but it doesn't ( seems to ) work |
| 21:06.01 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and the bb file as well |
| 21:06.28 | Pigi | hi gremlin[it] |
| 21:06.34 | orangey | Pigi: where are the binaries? |
| 21:06.42 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: http://pastebin.ca/27720 has void11-0.2.0.bb |
| 21:06.52 | gremlin[it] | hi Pigi :) |
| 21:06.56 | Pigi | actually they are installed in /opt/QtPalmtop/bin |
| 21:07.31 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: well I do not want to copy and paste the file myself |
| 21:07.36 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and delete the numbering... |
| 21:07.45 | Pigi | gremlin[it], I've been able to create my own image. And learned a really bunch of interessing stuff on builds and tips. |
| 21:07.46 | orangey | pigi: interesting.. |
| 21:07.54 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: you want me to just mail it to you then? |
| 21:08.04 | zecke | right |
| 21:08.15 | Pigi | orangey, not too much unfortunelly. I' m trying to guess where it hangs. |
| 21:09.31 | orangey | pigi: where is the root FS kept? |
| 21:09.38 | orangey | pigi: it doesn' seem in my work directory.. |
| 21:10.09 | Pigi | in oe ? it is in your build dir under tmp ( eg /home/oe/tmp/rootfs ) |
| 21:10.39 | gremlin[it] | Pigi good .. i hope u'll share your tip ;) |
| 21:10.46 | gremlin[it] | tips |
| 21:11.12 | Pigi | gremlin[it], of course. |
| 21:11.36 | orangey | pigi: I get |
| 21:11.46 | orangey | /usr/local/bitbake/build/tmp# ls \ cache cross deploy staging stamps work |
| 21:12.24 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: sent |
| 21:13.58 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: did you attach the file? |
| 21:14.30 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: my mail servers randomly suck, let me try another one. |
| 21:14.48 | orangey | Pigi: I'm guessing you're using org.openembedded.oz* ? |
| 21:15.48 | Pigi | orangey, you didn't build an image ( as gpe-image ) then you won't have a rootfs |
| 21:16.12 | Pigi | but you should find the packages in /usr/local/bitbake/build/tmp/deploy/ipk |
| 21:18.22 | Pigi | orangey, looks for kopi-x11.ipk and so on |
| 21:18.30 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: sent it again. |
| 21:19.02 | orangey | pigi: could you send me your packs? |
| 21:19.15 | orangey | pigi: this is what I get: http://oe.pastebin.com/418611 |
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| 21:22.37 | Pigi | orangey, first of all you should change your distro to "familiar-0.8.3 " |
| 21:22.49 | Pigi | and not, I'm not using .oz branch |
| 21:23.11 | Pigi | I'm using .dev |
| 21:23.51 | Pigi | hrw|gone, are you really gone? |
| 21:24.52 | orangey | pigi: I have. |
| 21:24.57 | orangey | pigi: But it for some reason won't take. |
| 21:25.06 | vittorio | hi, what could be the problem that when pressing the I/O button on my simpad with gpe (oe from 1.nov) it either does nothing or freezes. when executing apm --suspend from terminal it works? |
| 21:25.08 | orangey | somebody (you or zecke?) said it was not consequential |
| 21:25.59 | Pigi | orangey, check your local.conf in build/conf dir |
| 21:26.01 | koen|770 | vittorio: I fixed that yesterday in .dev |
| 21:26.15 | vittorio | koen, great! |
| 21:26.41 | koen|770 | kdrive needed the apm patch too |
| 21:26.51 | Pigi | orangey, have you never tried a whole build ? maybe some package is missing. |
| 21:27.16 | zecke | orangey: well fix the package? ;) |
| 21:27.31 | Pigi | and also my DISTRO says "familiar" |
| 21:27.33 | orangey | Pigi: I have.. |
| 21:27.42 | orangey | zecke: fix what package? |
| 21:27.49 | gremlin[it] | see u soon |
| 21:28.01 | zecke | orangey: whatever you want to have working |
| 21:28.08 | orangey | zecke: thank you : ) |
| 21:28.22 | orangey | is there no package for qvfb around? |
| 21:28.36 | orangey | this is entirely too much trouble just to get kdepimpi working on gpe |
| 21:29.11 | zecke | yeah 'invention'/doing something no one ever did before should be easy ;) |
| 21:29.49 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: gotcha |
| 21:30.03 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: ${sbindir] |
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| 21:30.16 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: should not end with ] but with } |
| 21:30.25 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: lines 56 and 57 |
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| 21:30.55 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: thanks man, I am a moron. |
| 21:31.04 | orangey | zecke: my expectations aren't entirely unreasonable.. i just want to run a reasonable pim program : ) |
| 21:31.20 | zecke | use opie |
| 21:31.45 | orangey | zecke: everything else is worse in opie.. see how my greediness works? : ) |
| 21:31.48 | orangey | i.e., browser, etc. |
| 21:31.58 | Pigi | orangey, ATM if you want kdepim you have two option ( unfortunally ) : |
| 21:32.16 | zecke | orangey: use XQt to run minimoz on Opie |
| 21:32.29 | Pigi | 1) you fix it by yourself or wait until someone else does |
| 21:32.30 | zecke | orangey: use Opie |
| 21:32.45 | Pigi | 2) you change to opie until someone fix it in gpe |
| 21:32.54 | orangey | pigi: What about qvfb? |
| 21:33.03 | Pigi | For what I see right now, fixing isn't easy. |
| 21:33.17 | orangey | pigi: could you send me your .ipk files so I can have a try here? |
| 21:33.21 | Pigi | as most of the trouble are in the code itself, not in the oe build |
| 21:33.23 | orangey | or a zip of your /opt? |
| 21:33.37 | orangey | Pigi: The problem with me is that I have spent 99% of my time just getting up to speed with a relatively immature OE system. |
| 21:33.41 | Pigi | what machine do you have |
| 21:33.49 | Pigi | ? |
| 21:33.51 | orangey | pigi: hx4700 |
| 21:34.13 | orangey | pigi: So I don't even have the build so I could start trying to package it, which is all hrw said needed to be done |
| 21:34.14 | Pigi | I will send it to you, but I'm not sure they will work. |
| 21:34.23 | orangey | pigi: what do you have? |
| 21:34.26 | Pigi | h3900 |
| 21:34.31 | orangey | pigi: it's close. |
| 21:36.44 | Pigi | orangey, I have a tar file for you. It's 8mb |
| 21:37.39 | Pigi | orangey, I'm dcc'ing it to you |
| 21:37.54 | orangey | thanks pigi |
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| 21:38.02 | Pigi | np |
| 21:38.07 | orangey | I'll try this, and if I can't get it going, I'm back to Opie |
| 21:38.26 | orangey | zecke: package for xqt? |
| 21:39.01 | zecke | orangey: well you are mistaken the purpose of this channel ;) |
| 21:39.21 | zecke | orangey: it is the OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge not give me a package chan ;) |
| 21:39.31 | zecke | orangey: for packages ask your distributor |
| 21:39.53 | Pigi | remember that you need to do "ln -s /usr/pics/kdepim/ /usr/bin" because atm I have made it compile for /usr, but not changed the pics |
| 21:39.54 | orangey | zecke: I meant to say "are there packages for xqt?" |
| 21:40.02 | zecke | orangey: bitbake xqt |
| 21:40.15 | Pigi | zecke, apologize me then. |
| 21:40.23 | zecke | Pigi: he? |
| 21:40.34 | Pigi | It's also my fault I suppose. |
| 21:40.42 | zecke | Pigi: nothing to apologize for |
| 21:40.46 | Pigi | thx |
| 21:41.17 | orangey | heheh : ) I'm a refugee of channel topics. Perhaps you can take comfort in the fact that it seems I never know where I'm supposed to be. |
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| 21:51.04 | vittorio | wow. gpe, gpe-mini-browser and sylpheed rock. my simpad is getting a new live :) |
| 21:55.14 | fyliu | I'm trying to may my app run as single instance. I added SingleInstance=True to the .desktop file but it doesn't work |
| 21:55.14 | fyliu | I know gpe-calendar has the single instance property but I can't figure out how to do it for my app |
| 21:55.14 | fyliu | do I need to make it depend on some library in the .bb file? |
| 22:00.00 | zecke | fyliu: isn't more appropriate for #maemo? |
| 22:00.13 | zecke | fyliu: isn't that more appropriate for #maemo or #gpe? |
| 22:01.49 | fyliu | thanks zecke, I wasn't sure where to ask |
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| 22:15.53 | Pigi | it's time to sleep. |
| 22:15.56 | Pigi | Night all |
| 22:16.00 | zecke | Pigi: cya |
| 22:16.38 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: for some reason, my void11-0.2.0.bb makes two ipkg, one normal, and one "dev", how do I stop it from doing that? |
| 22:17.24 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: do you want a reason or a fix? |
| 22:17.57 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: I need a fix, but a reason would be cool too. |
| 22:18.12 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: check conf/bitbake.conf and search for PACKAGES |
| 22:18.39 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: there you have PACKAGES = "${PN} ${PN}-doc.... |
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| 22:18.52 | hrw | hi |
| 22:18.53 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: yeah |
| 22:18.54 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and FILES_${PN} and FILES_${PN}-doc ... |
| 22:19.04 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: when setting PACKAGES = "${PN}" |
| 22:19.35 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: you will only see a void11 package being created |
| 22:20.11 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: can I put that just in the .bb file? |
| 22:20.34 | zecke | yeah |
| 22:20.49 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: you are the man, thanks for all the help. |
| 22:21.47 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: some where (in your local.conf, machine.conf, your distribution) you have a INHERIT += ipk this results in the ipk bbclass being included in every bb file |
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| 22:22.14 | hrw | package_ipk rather |
| 22:22.16 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and this ipk class hooks in after do_install and uses the FILES and PACKAGES variable to create packages |
| 22:22.36 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: I have no idea what you are talking about :-) |
| 22:22.59 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: then nevermind |
| 22:23.03 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: but unless I need to know it, don't worry about it :-) |
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| 22:29.30 | zecke | wb |
| 22:29.38 | hrw | re |
| 22:30.02 | hrw | 2-3 minutes from cold start to kde session |
| 22:30.24 | zecke | could be better :( |
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| 22:31.41 | zecke | my portupgrade takes ages... |
| 22:35.20 | ggilbert | did you ever get a new computer? |
| 22:36.21 | zecke | didn't I blog about it? |
| 22:36.39 | zecke | ggilbert: due to your help and others I have AMD XP 2600 with 512MB next to me |
| 22:36.54 | zecke | this is my so called build machine I use for compiling mainly OE |
| 22:37.02 | hrw | 2600+ is 2GHz? |
| 22:38.18 | zecke | I wanted to do cat /proc/cpuinfo but my BSD box does not have it... |
| 22:38.29 | zecke | hrw: I think it is 1,6Ghz |
| 22:39.26 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: Well I actually still have some money on the PayPal account |
| 22:39.39 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: I plan to purchase disks for my four sharks |
| 22:39.41 | hrw | zecke: 2200 is 1.8GHz |
| 22:40.01 | hrw | zecke: http://zecke.blogspot.com/ is your blog or you abandoned it? |
| 22:40.09 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: file /usr/lib/libvoid11.so was "installed" but not shipped in any package. How do I make sure it goes into the main package? |
| 22:40.52 | ggilbert | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.58 | zecke | hrw: no, I'm just a lazy ass |
| 22:41.12 | hrw | zecke: ok. so I will bookmark it in delicious |
| 22:43.55 | Zero_Chaos | anyone able to help me make sure a .lib ends up in the main ipk and not a dev.ipk? |
| 22:44.37 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: the .so belongs to the dev package |
| 22:44.57 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: I know, but I don't one a whole ipk for one file. |
| 22:45.20 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: you should have something like libvoid.so.0.1.9... |
| 22:45.20 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: the .so is only needed for development |
| 22:45.41 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: the .so is needed for the program to function at all |
| 22:45.58 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: then look at conf/bitbake.conf |
| 22:46.38 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and add the .so to FILES_${PN} as well (in your .bb) |
| 22:46.38 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: and I guess I make no sense at all... |
| 22:48.02 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: how do I add the .so to FILES_${PN} in my .bb? example pleae |
| 22:49.00 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: FILES_${PN} += " ${libdir}/lib*.so " ;) |
| 22:49.17 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: where do I put that, in the top part? |
| 22:49.30 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: anyware in your bb file |
| 22:50.52 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: thanks as always, good luck on your assignments |
| 22:54.39 | zecke | ggilbert: besides I'm still in lawsuit with my father for child support, I'm doing better financially |
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| 22:57.08 | ggilbert | zecke: That sucks |
| 22:57.28 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 22:57.54 | zecke | ggilbert: I'm at a point I'm not even reading mails from my lawyer anymore... |
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| 23:08.03 | ggilbert | zecke: I'm still waiting to hear back from mine |
| 23:08.05 | ggilbert | getting annoying |
| 23:09.06 | zecke | oh I have missed that, can you spare some details? |
| 23:11.58 | zecke | delta (WSKEA (w,s, ((Term (TZ x)):xs),e,a)) = WSKEA ((Z x):w,s,xs,e,a) |
| 23:12.06 | zecke | gosh that is readable |
| 23:16.31 | hrw | http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2005/11/05/354-release-candidate/ |
| 23:16.49 | hrw | it should be written earlier.. |
| 23:19.26 | pb_ | hi ggilbert, zecke |
| 23:19.36 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: 3.5.4 doesn't seem to work at all on my SL-5500, you want me to download again and try it? |
| 23:19.43 | zecke | hey phil |
| 23:21.28 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: works on my collie |
| 23:21.30 | hrw | hi pb |
| 23:21.48 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I guess I'll make sure my image isn't corrupt |
| 23:22.04 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: md5sums are provided |
| 23:23.19 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: I added FILES_${PN} += "${libdir}/libvoid11.so" |
| 23:23.25 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: and it still doesn't put it in the ipk |
| 23:24.43 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: try adding a space before $ (but that should have been done by += IIRC) |
| 23:25.11 | pb_ | yeah, += always adds a space |
| 23:25.27 | zecke | pb_: how are you? |
| 23:26.12 | pb_ | zecke: very well. how are you? |
| 23:26.24 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: if += adds that space for me, why doesn't it work? or at least how do I open the ipk to see what's up? |
| 23:26.59 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: I use the midnight commander |
| 23:27.14 | zecke | pb_: my term started and it is and will be tough... |
| 23:27.28 | pb_ | zecke: ah, right. is this your final year? |
| 23:27.31 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: can I get a bit more explaination than "the midnight commander"? |
| 23:27.55 | zecke | pb_: not even close to. But I'm accelerating stuff (at least I hope to) |
| 23:28.10 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: do you happen to run debian? |
| 23:28.21 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: gentoo |
| 23:28.35 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: but likely I can install anything you were about to tell me to. |
| 23:28.40 | zecke | pb_: one part of the problem is I do not take any written tests... and need to get some appointments to take my tests... |
| 23:28.55 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: dpkg-showpackage ;) |
| 23:29.04 | pb_ | zecke: ah, I can see how that would be inconvenient |
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| 23:29.32 | zecke | pb_: it is convient, as it is the only way I'm physically able to take tests... |
| 23:30.25 | zecke | pb_: but I'm lazy^3 scared as well... "I'm disabled, I'm supposed to take an oral exam..." |
| 23:30.43 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: using ar x foo.ipk |
| 23:30.56 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: you will get a data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz |
| 23:31.12 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: using your favorite tool you might look into data.tar.gz |
| 23:31.33 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: but be aware once bitbake built your ipk it will not recreate it unless you force it to |
| 23:31.35 | pb_ | zecke: mm, I see |
| 23:32.12 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: how do I use dpkg-showpackage? (I'm installing dpkg now) |
| 23:32.19 | zecke | pb_: the stupid answer I get back is why. Nowadays I reply if you find out I'm confident you will get the Novel price for medicine ;) |
| 23:32.39 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: dpkg-showpackage --help will hopefully tell you. I don't remember the syntax |
| 23:32.46 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: thanks |
| 23:33.09 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: Again I'm a midnight commander additc |
| 23:33.12 | zecke | addict even |
| 23:33.13 | pb_ | zecke: hehe |
| 23:33.44 | hrw | 'mortal combat' rule |
| 23:34.07 | ggilbert | heya pb |
| 23:34.21 | hrw | we used to call mc like that when used it on hp2623 terminals (no Fx keys, no cursors, shitty screen refresh) |
| 23:34.30 | pb_ | zecke: is your health generally OK at the moment, or are you still confined to the hospital on a regular basis? |
| 23:34.31 | zecke | pb_: how is receiva going? |
| 23:34.42 | hrw | zecke: could you look into oe bug #441? |
| 23:34.59 | pb_ | zecke: it is going well. this is a slightly anxious time, as our products are about to go on sale to the public for the first time. |
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| 23:35.29 | zecke | pb_: I'm on heavy drugs but i feel fine - with some minor issue raising from time to time |
| 23:35.46 | zecke | pb_: This year I have gone from weekly hospital visits to monthly ones |
| 23:35.59 | pb_ | for example, um... http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=ELEC&title=819525&p=321&g=409&pa=rgncs |
| 23:36.10 | pb_ | zecke: that sounds like an improvement |
| 23:37.02 | hrw | pb_: nice device |
| 23:37.06 | zecke | hrw: why not name vera fixed? |
| 23:37.08 | Bernardo | 'night guys |
| 23:37.44 | hrw | zecke: s/vera/dejavu_sans_mono - hmm.. |
| 23:38.20 | zecke | pb_: you produce stuff that can cary a windows logo? oh my gosh |
| 23:39.07 | zecke | hrw: it is a clear sign that we need fontconfig (with a mmapble cache though) |
| 23:39.22 | hrw | yep |
| 23:39.34 | zecke | hrw: but for now I would either change opie-console or rename dejavu to fixed |
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| 23:41.01 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.31 | hrw | zecke: does QFontDatabase work with out qt/e? |
| 23:42.05 | zecke | hrw: yes |
| 23:44.34 | hrw | zecke: so if fixed is not font then create QFontDatabase and try to find other fixed? |
| 23:44.50 | zecke | hrw: that could work |
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| 23:47.02 | zecke | pb_: is receiva privately owned? |
| 23:47.11 | hrw | zecke: too bad that TT does not provide examples for it;( |
| 23:47.44 | zecke | hrw: well the more interesting question is if fonts.dir provides |
| 23:47.48 | zecke | hrw: the needed info at all |
| 23:48.01 | hrw | yep |
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| 23:51.34 | pb_ | zecke: it is. |
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