| 00:00.07 | magnet | oh good thanks a lot. |
| 00:00.12 | magnet | I'm very new to this. |
| 00:00.57 | hrw | np |
| 00:04.18 | woglinde_ | yesssssssssssssssss it worked |
| 00:05.32 | hrw | woglinde_: recompiled all with one gcc? |
| 00:06.00 | hrw | cu |
| 00:06.08 | hrw | 02:06 here - time to sleep |
| 00:06.22 | woglinde_ | hms hrw |
| 00:31.03 | RP | 'night all |
| 00:31.47 | CIA-7 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra2b0044d... 10/: linux-oz-2.6: dev kernel sound updates. Add sysfs control to c7x0 to enable/disable speaker/earphones (+same for cxx00). Many improvements to wm8750 driver. |
| 00:32.48 | magnet | night. |
| 00:32.54 | magnet | 60% :) |
| 00:56.38 | magnet | hell |
| 00:56.48 | magnet | ERROR: Nothing provides xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12.bb |
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| 01:13.34 | magnet | I don t undestand, shouldn't build xanadux-ba-2.6_2.6.12.bb , install this kernel ? |
| 01:13.41 | magnet | or am I wrong with the name ? |
| 01:19.27 | tanq | does anyone know where I can get a nand image for the sl-5600 |
| 01:19.34 | tanq | i checked conics with no luck |
| 01:20.03 | magnet | nop. |
| 01:21.19 | tanq | arg.. |
| 01:25.29 | magnet | http://www.galacticslacker.com/zaurus_sl5600.shtml |
| 01:25.41 | magnet | sounds like a bit dangerous to me. |
| 01:25.46 | magnet | but may help you. |
| 01:47.04 | magnet | this works !!! |
| 01:47.08 | magnet | at least. |
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| 03:36.02 | orangey | hey all! |
| 03:36.21 | orangey | I'm looking for a good way to run KO/Pi on GPE.. could somebody suggest possibilities? |
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| 07:19.04 | uv1 | Good morning all |
| 07:20.03 | uv1 | Is anyone here, who can help with general bitbake errors ? |
| 07:20.14 | uv1 | error: line 2: Tag takes single token only: Version : ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or '1.0'} |
| 07:20.28 | uv1 | What does that mean ? Where can I search ? |
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| 08:19.04 | zecke | moin |
| 08:19.39 | zecke | lucasvo: quilt-native is the thing you wanted to build? |
| 08:22.44 | uv1 | uv1: morgen |
| 08:22.58 | uv1 | s/uv1/zecke/: morgen |
| 08:24.26 | uv1 | I have an error trying to investigate "package_rpm". |
| 08:24.39 | uv1 | First package build gives me a |
| 08:24.43 | uv1 | error: line 2: Tag takes single token only: Version : ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or '1.0'} |
| 08:25.29 | uv1 | Any ideas, where to look for ? The script files run.BUILDSPEC... seem to be OK. |
| 08:38.14 | zecke | uv1: I'm not an expert on RPM. But generally the error handling in bitbake could be improved |
| 08:38.32 | zecke | uv1: 'line 2' in the evaluated task failed |
| 08:39.11 | zecke | uv1: and bb.parse.BBHandler is likely not not exist anymore :( |
| 08:54.24 | pb_ | zecke: good morning |
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| 09:05.42 | RP | morning all |
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| 09:29.22 | uv1 | zecke: Thanks, will search for that tomorrow. Will go for a motorbike ride now ;-) |
| 09:29.46 | uv1 | nick uv1|motorbike |
| 09:29.55 | uv1 | Bye |
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| 10:24.25 | lucasvo | zecke: I want to build gpe-image |
| 10:24.29 | lucasvo | zecke: but it fails |
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| 10:47.11 | zecke | lucasvo: well, from the post from yesterday |
| 10:47.21 | zecke | lucasvo: you already had the patch applied, for whatever reason |
| 10:50.15 | zecke | lucasvo: OE/BitBake do not handle the out of disk space case in anyway |
| 10:50.34 | zecke | lucasvo: if applying a patch suceeded but not 'remembering/stamping' that it was done |
| 10:50.42 | zecke | lucasvo: the thing you saw can easily happen |
| 10:51.03 | zecke | (or out of inodes) |
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| 11:24.04 | woglinde | he koen |
| 11:24.38 | woglinde | koen I got ip from the pptp server at the university |
| 11:24.54 | koen|770 | cool |
| 11:24.57 | woglinde | koen but unfornatly I couldnt try if the ip traffic really works |
| 11:25.20 | woglinde | it was late and i didnt got a www-browser working |
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| 11:25.54 | magnet | hi |
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| 11:30.42 | woglinde | hi france |
| 11:30.56 | france | woglinde: hello |
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| 12:42.59 | lucasvo | zecke: I redid the whole thing on a new machine... |
| 12:43.12 | lucasvo | zecke: it wasn't because of diskspace |
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| 13:24.09 | tatouin | Is there any release plan for futur familiar release ? I can't found any on familiar.handhelds.org |
| 13:24.35 | zecke | lucasvo: well whatever, let it be permissions, disk quota, reiserfs, out of inodes |
| 13:24.53 | zecke | lucasvo: the stamp that patching was done, wasn't created |
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| 13:32.33 | [cc]smart | i'd like to make an mpack package, but it can't identify it's license type. it is free to use but it name GPL. what to do ? |
| 13:32.39 | [cc]smart | package is here: http://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ |
| 13:38.46 | lucasvo | zecke: it worked, I had another error now, and I sent a mail to mailing list |
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| 13:48.59 | zecke | lucasvo: that mail, might or might not arrive |
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| 13:56.25 | mithro | zecke: ping |
| 13:59.41 | zecke | mithro: pong |
| 13:59.47 | pb_ | zecke: those are indeed the two possible outcomes |
| 14:00.06 | zecke | mithro: I'm doing my assignments ATM |
| 14:07.29 | RP | pb_: Potentially, it could only half arrive I guess... |
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| 14:32.10 | mithro | zecke: havn't given up and installed the binaries yet? |
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| 15:25.45 | Bernardo | afternoon all |
| 15:25.57 | Bernardo | RP: did I read right, you got sound working? |
| 15:26.51 | magnet | afternoon. |
| 15:27.35 | RP | Bernardo: Hi and correct :) |
| 15:28.27 | Bernardo | RP: pulling now... :) |
| 15:29.36 | RP | Bernardo: Be warned that the dynamic power management doesn't quite work right so you have to "echo 0x1a 0x1fe > /sys/devices/platform/wm8750/cmd" after you start playback or after you change any of the mixer settings... |
| 15:29.46 | RP | I need to talk to Liam about that which I will tomorrow |
| 15:30.06 | Bernardo | that is a strange one... |
| 15:30.27 | Bernardo | maybe it's time to switch the 2.6 kernel images to acpi instead of apm? |
| 15:30.57 | RP | Bernardo: You don't quite understand the problem. It'll just be a bug in the dpm code |
| 15:31.10 | RP | The Zaurii don't have an apm or acpi bios |
| 15:31.22 | RP | They have an emulated apm layer :-/ |
| 15:31.30 | RP | Which has nothing to do with this problem... |
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| 15:32.12 | Bernardo | RP: ok |
| 15:32.44 | Bernardo | too bad for the sd problem I'm seing |
| 15:33.00 | Bernardo | or I'd be using the 2.6 kernel straight away |
| 15:33.21 | RP | Bernardo: I have a theory about that - mreimer recently pointed me at a document about different types of delays for SD cards |
| 15:33.28 | RP | It could be the same issue |
| 15:33.28 | tanq | can i download the 2.6 kernel for the zaurus via http? |
| 15:33.43 | Bernardo | tanq: for what version of the zaurus? |
| 15:33.50 | tanq | 5600 |
| 15:33.59 | Bernardo | RP: possibly. Thank god now the sd spec is more open |
| 15:34.16 | RP | tanq: I'd look in the OZ feeds |
| 15:34.21 | tanq | i dont have oe setup but i'm trying to get an image to test |
| 15:34.29 | tanq | its not in the feeds for the 5600 |
| 15:34.47 | tanq | i thought it might be available somewhere on the oe site |
| 15:34.55 | Bernardo | RP: the sound fixes are in rc4-r4? |
| 15:35.07 | RP | Bernardo: correct |
| 15:35.29 | Bernardo | then I already had a correct image built and just trashed it... :( |
| 15:35.33 | koen | tanq: the source should be on the OZ site |
| 15:35.39 | RP | Bernardo: I'll try and look into the SD issue soon. As the 2.6.15 merge window has just opened, I need to do other things at the moment... |
| 15:35.49 | Bernardo | RP: sure |
| 15:36.00 | Bernardo | RP: get as much as you can into mainline |
| 15:36.10 | Bernardo | RP: and we'll all be gratefull for ever... :) |
| 15:36.14 | Bernardo | ~hail RP |
| 15:36.15 | ibot | ACTION bows down to RP and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 15:36.22 | RP | We really need more Zaurus kernel developers as I can only do so much at once :) |
| 15:37.32 | RP | The pxa irda code has gone into mainline at last, with a bugfix and patches for poodle, corgi and spitz from me following fast on its tail... |
| 15:37.49 | magnet | send me a zaurus :) |
| 15:38.25 | tanq | koen: they only have it for the clamshells i think |
| 15:38.43 | koen | tanq: all gpl'd source should be on the OZ site |
| 15:38.57 | Bernardo | RP: if only the day had 24 more hours... :) |
| 15:39.05 | koen | if it isn't, ask the OZ people |
| 15:39.06 | RP | koen: I think tanq wants a compiled image... |
| 15:39.12 | koen | tanq: this isn't the place |
| 15:39.16 | koen | RP: #openzaurus |
| 15:41.05 | tanq | should and does are two different things. and someone told me I could find an image on oe which i haven't found yet.. |
| 15:42.59 | koen | that someone was wrong |
| 15:43.11 | koen | OE has nothing to do with distributing images |
| 15:43.24 | koen | like I said, #openzaurus |
| 15:43.27 | koen | OE != OZ |
| 15:43.31 | zecke | RP: 'we' have a SL6000 to give away, if you find some one with enough spare time |
| 15:44.13 | mickey|bbq | s/to give away/on loan for some months/ |
| 15:44.24 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 15:44.25 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 15:44.38 | zecke | mickeyl: right, to loan to some one trust worthy |
| 15:44.58 | RP | zecke: I've just been looking at the tosa patches once again and feeling depressed at the bitrot :-( |
| 15:45.17 | zecke | my term started way too early |
| 15:45.27 | RP | I have a 2.6.14-git kernel running here but none of the tosa patches will apply without work due to the platform device pm changes... |
| 15:45.33 | pb_ | bbiab |
| 15:45.38 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 15:45.50 | Bernardo | later pb_ |
| 15:45.53 | mickeyl | tosa tosa tosa |
| 15:45.59 | mickeyl | ups, sorry |
| 15:46.02 | RP | Its easy enough to fix but I don't know whether to do it or wait for dirk to do it... |
| 15:46.13 | mickeyl | ~seen do13 |
| 15:46.21 | ibot | do13 <n=nnnnnnnn@do13.in-dsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 34d 2h 29m 31s ago, saying: 'zecke_: To build an opie-image you need this patch http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/defconfig-tosa.patch'. |
| 15:46.37 | RP | Personally, I think dirk should push the core tosa code that works into mainline rather than waiting for it all to be complete... |
| 15:47.23 | RP | mickeyl: You saw the news on cxx00 sound? |
| 15:51.45 | RP | Oh, and I have quite a nice patch from the the fbdev maintainer which will please cxx00 owners. It's going to encourage me to update to 2.6.14-git1 so we can apply it easily |
| 15:52.52 | mickeyl | RP: yeah, excellent. i have some testing to do with it, i have a lot of sound applications and APIs to fire on it |
| 15:53.43 | RP | mickeyl: Its not totally user ready yet as you'll read in scrollback. I see these as minor issues though - the core looks good :) |
| 15:56.35 | mickeyl | cool. i guess i should make myself familiar with alsa sooner than later |
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| 15:56.59 | Bernardo | hrw|gone: wifi seems to have been broken lately, ever since I tried the hentges rom I've had the same kind of problems you're having being unable to connect |
| 15:57.15 | RP | On 2.6.14-git1, pxa27x ohci suspend/resume doesn't crash anymore :). It unmounts all the usb disks but I can live with that :) |
| 15:57.39 | RP | Based on that, I'll push my patches for ohci... |
| 15:57.47 | Bernardo | hrw|gone: seems the culprit is udhcp |
| 15:57.56 | mickeyl | good to hear. that unmounting is not an issue |
| 15:58.20 | mickeyl | i guess you didn't decide on a LED abstraction yet right? ;) |
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| 15:58.41 | RP | mickeyl: I know what I want to do, just need to code it |
| 15:59.13 | RP | mickeyl: We're getting there though. I'll run out of other things to do soon ;-) |
| 15:59.32 | mickeyl | sure |
| 15:59.44 | mickeyl | LED is really not important, but i like reminding you about that ;) |
| 15:59.56 | RP | I haven't forgotten ;-) |
| 16:00.12 | Bernardo | RP: the 2.6 keymap seems to have switched the calendar and the address book buttons around (in opie) |
| 16:01.29 | RP | Bernardo: Interesting. I wonder if I've messed that up in the kernel driver :-/ |
| 16:01.45 | Bernardo | no idea... :) |
| 16:01.53 | Bernardo | I just notice that now |
| 16:02.27 | RP | I'll might look at it next time I fiddle with the keyboard driver... |
| 16:02.33 | Bernardo | and I can't associate with my ap, but that was happening with the oz-3.5.3 based hentges rom I was using too |
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| 16:03.11 | Bernardo | do I need to do anything special to enable sound? |
| 16:03.27 | RP | Bernardo: Lots of modprobing as sound is all modular |
| 16:04.44 | RP | Bernardo: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/inssound |
| 16:04.57 | RP | Something like that but s/wm8731/wm8750/ |
| 16:05.29 | RP | That list is a bit overkill as well... |
| 16:06.00 | Bernardo | well, it seems no snd-* modules got built for me |
| 16:06.19 | Bernardo | time to try and find out what did I do wrong pulling the dev branch... |
| 16:07.07 | RP | Bernardo: You'll probably have to manually install them as the image doesn't know about them yet |
| 16:07.28 | RP | Keep in mind this is bleeding egde - the stable kernel knows nothing about these yet |
| 16:08.02 | Bernardo | yep, they're there in the ipk dir |
| 16:08.28 | Bernardo | ok, I'll try that later, have to go now. Thanks a lot! |
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| 16:45.34 | hrw | hi |
| 16:45.54 | RP | hi hrw |
| 16:46.41 | RP | hrw: Check the dev branch commits for some c7x0 sound news... |
| 16:46.55 | hrw | I saw them |
| 16:47.05 | hrw | will build and test |
| 16:48.20 | hrw | I'm curious do they pass my opie test :) |
| 16:48.32 | RP | hrw: You can control speaker/earphone enable/disable from sysfs now |
| 16:48.47 | RP | (temporarily until we get them into the alsamixer |
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| 16:49.03 | RP | hrw: I'm equally curious :) |
| 16:49.13 | hrw | RP: no headphones here |
| 16:49.22 | hrw | but I could connect speakers instead ;) |
| 16:49.44 | RP | I'm happy the controls work - I think it was XorA that wanted them... |
| 16:49.54 | hrw | mickeyl: could you "chmod 775 *" in 3.5.4-RC dir? |
| 16:49.57 | hrw | yes - it was him |
| 16:52.47 | bam_ | hrw, you got some time |
| 16:53.11 | hrw | bam_: ask |
| 16:53.47 | bam_ | regarding overclocking values |
| 16:53.53 | bam_ | batteryplus |
| 16:54.12 | hrw | bam_: iirc we dont have it in OE |
| 16:54.27 | bam_ | oh |
| 16:54.38 | hrw | bam_: and probably wont have |
| 16:54.57 | hrw | bam_: which Z you have? |
| 16:55.03 | bam_ | 3100 |
| 16:55.36 | hrw | bam_: OZ use 2.6 kernel on it (you can help RP with testing btw) |
| 16:56.06 | bam_ | rp? |
| 16:57.00 | hrw | bam_: and we rather will have cpufreq support to underclock then for overclock |
| 16:57.51 | RP | bam_: 3100 should now work but 2.6 hasn't been tested much by anyone... |
| 16:58.33 | bam_ | im surprised |
| 16:59.43 | RP | OE/OZ only has one active kernel developer (me) looking after 6 models of which I have two :-/ |
| 17:00.13 | RP | We don't have cpufreq support under 2.6 yet for the pxa27x... |
| 17:00.26 | RP | Someone needs to write it... |
| 17:00.31 | hrw | RP: first we need stable 2.6 on pxa27x |
| 17:00.35 | hrw | ;) |
| 17:00.51 | RP | hrw: It is perfectly stable! |
| 17:01.13 | hrw | RP: ok |
| 17:01.31 | hrw | building 2.6.14-rc4-r4 now |
| 17:01.32 | RP | Its not fully featured but it the core kernel is bullet proof |
| 17:01.48 | bam_ | sensitive, but then again I too am a programmer, I understand |
| 17:01.54 | hrw | o.. 2.6.14 released. |
| 17:02.43 | RP | hrw: dev branch is looking likely to move to 2.6.14+git1 soon ;-) |
| 17:03.52 | bam_ | so there is a testing release of OZ for 3100 |
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| 17:05.09 | hrw | re |
| 17:05.23 | hrw | my desktop machine is too unstable last times |
| 17:05.51 | bam_ | time for a reinstall perhaps? |
| 17:06.05 | bam_ | my ubuntu work very nice |
| 17:06.22 | hrw | bam_: rather for hardware reinstall |
| 17:06.36 | bam_ | ouch |
| 17:06.50 | hrw | bam_: PSU and cpu cooling probably |
| 17:07.18 | bam_ | I need to build a nice desktop system soon |
| 17:07.36 | bam_ | my laptop is fine but.....desktop would be nicer |
| 17:08.01 | Bernardo | hrw: I "fixed" my firewall psu with a compressed air spray |
| 17:08.12 | Bernardo | the fan started again and is working perfectly since... |
| 17:08.21 | hrw | Bernardo: that one is clean and have new fan (zalman 80mm one) |
| 17:08.48 | hrw | Bernardo: its just cheap PSU (Codegen 400X) which just worked ok before |
| 17:12.26 | magnet | may I suspend a build with bitbake ? |
| 17:12.32 | magnet | then resume it later ? |
| 17:12.41 | hrw | magnet: you can |
| 17:12.47 | magnet | very nice. |
| 17:13.15 | magnet | bitbake looks like a lot to gentoo's package management tool. |
| 17:13.28 | magnet | so crtl + c is ok ? |
| 17:13.31 | hrw | yes |
| 17:13.39 | magnet | thanks. |
| 17:13.42 | koen | gentoo doesn't have packages |
| 17:13.46 | magnet | I'll try to use distcc. |
| 17:13.51 | koen | and hence no package management tools |
| 17:13.55 | magnet | koen: it's ports. |
| 17:14.18 | magnet | but linux people understand better the concept of 'package management'. |
| 17:14.47 | magnet | also note you can make binary packages on gentoo. |
| 17:19.00 | koen | hrw: did you get an url from cobelius? |
| 17:20.16 | hrw | koen: no |
| 17:20.39 | hrw | OZ 3.5.4-rc is nice fetchable via scp |
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| 17:21.35 | hrw | now time to be not nice to my c760... |
| 17:22.25 | hrw | in other words: I will make attempt to get wifi working |
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| 17:50.10 | hrw | RP: starting 2.6.14-rc4-r4 |
| 17:51.37 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re7172473... 10/: opie-appearance 1.2.1: updated CVS backport of icon size settings |
| 17:52.53 | hrw | ~lart my wrt or me or my Z for fscking problems with get wifi connected and working |
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| 17:57.48 | hrw | RP: ping |
| 17:59.28 | RP | hrw: pong |
| 17:59.53 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/27077 after some flooding to driver |
| 18:00.05 | hrw | flooding = qss + screen clicks sounds |
| 18:00.15 | hrw | I will reboot and try without qss |
| 18:01.19 | RP | hrw: I guess we should be thankful it doesn't oops :) |
| 18:01.29 | hrw | ;) |
| 18:02.05 | RP | I think the response from Liam will be that with oss, we can only have one program using the sound system at once so the behaviour is sort of correct |
| 18:02.18 | RP | I'm not sure it should get that deep into the sound code before it decides that though |
| 18:03.40 | RP | I have a lovely bit of code for cxx00 owners thanks to Antonino Daplas :) |
| 18:03.52 | hrw | who is? |
| 18:04.01 | RP | fbdev maintainer |
| 18:04.24 | hrw | ah. |
| 18:04.35 | hrw | let me guess - fb rotate? |
| 18:04.39 | RP | Someone else has written code to further the Zaurus effort for a change though which makes me happy :) |
| 18:04.47 | RP | got it in one :) |
| 18:05.33 | RP | mickeyl is going to kill me as it breaks the elpp patch... |
| 18:06.16 | hrw | fsck elpp |
| 18:06.24 | RP | :) |
| 18:07.06 | hrw | if it is not in kernel then ignore it - working kernel is more important |
| 18:08.20 | RP | I know. I can probably make elpp apply anyway but we'll see... |
| 18:08.40 | RP | Having the console the right way around on spitz is great :) |
| 18:09.58 | hrw | RP: leave elpp for mickeyl - it is his baby |
| 18:10.19 | hrw | heh.. having wifi working would be great... |
| 18:10.43 | hrw | someone have not needed pci or cf wifi card? :) |
| 18:12.06 | hrw | I have to test my AP with other wifi equipment... my c7x0 is not unable to connect in <1minute (no WEP, no WPA) |
| 18:15.07 | zecke | hrw: MAC filter? |
| 18:15.41 | hrw | zecke: none - all security things turned off. |
| 18:15.51 | hrw | I will look how fast collie will connect |
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| 18:19.39 | hrw | collie (2.4.18-r22, hostap 0.3.9) get dhcp lease in <10 seconds from inserting wifi card... |
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| 18:21.06 | RP | hrw: Very strange :-/ |
| 18:23.24 | hrw | anyway after resume it is scked too |
| 18:27.49 | mickeyl | RP: After this release I'll ditch elpp - instead I'll make a fullscreen "Ângström Booting - Please wait" Logo and then start the boot manager + init progress manager which has the same look as the boot logo in userland. That way it looks even more professional and we have everything but the standard linux logo out of kernel space |
| 18:28.37 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 18:28.45 | RP | mickeyl: Ok, that sounds good to me. I can lose elpp from the dev kernel then? |
| 18:29.17 | mickeyl | yep, go ahead |
| 18:29.18 | mickeyl | hi hrw |
| 18:29.25 | hrw | collie flashing.. 3.5.4-rc |
| 18:29.51 | hrw | mickeyl: ssh mml@shell.sf.net;chmod 775 3.5.4-RC - could you? |
| 18:29.59 | mickeyl | hrw: sure... hold on |
| 18:30.14 | RP | mickeyl: cardmgr is also totally broken now under recent (> 2.6.14-rc1) kernels. I'll force a move to pcmciautils in the dev branch and we'll just have to pick up the pieces (mainly network device setup) |
| 18:31.03 | hrw | we should also drop c7x0 support from oz-pxa 2.4-crapix |
| 18:31.03 | mickeyl | -bash-2.05b$ chmod 775 -R 3.5.4-RC |
| 18:31.03 | mickeyl | chmod: changing permissions of `3.5.4-RC/c7x0,c8x0/MD5SUMS': Operation not permitted |
| 18:31.03 | mickeyl | chmod: changing permissions of `3.5.4-RC/sl6000/MD5SUMS': Operation not permitted |
| 18:31.03 | mickeyl | chmod: changing permissions of `3.5.4-RC/all-md5sums.txt': Operation not permitted |
| 18:31.12 | hrw | mickeyl: ok - they are mine |
| 18:31.14 | mickeyl | RP: yes, that sounds like the way to go |
| 18:31.26 | hrw | mickeyl: will update them |
| 18:31.30 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 18:31.48 | RP | mickeyl: It isn't supposed to be broken btw but it is :-( |
| 18:32.33 | hrw | mickeyl: done |
| 18:33.06 | hrw | hold fingers for me - starting 3.5.4-rc on collie |
| 18:33.43 | mickeyl | the multibuild thing didn't work for me which is why it took so long to build/upload all variants of the RC |
| 18:34.12 | hrw | mickeyl: what machine you use for builds? |
| 18:34.34 | hrw | someone offered cpu power for OE recently |
| 18:35.56 | hrw | mickeyl: users complain about lack of SD in pcmciaapplet.. |
| 18:36.36 | hrw | hm 0.6M free on / - small.. |
| 18:37.49 | mickeyl | hrw: i use a dual xeon 2.4 Ghz |
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| 18:38.28 | mickeyl | hrw: i have no time (nor motivation) to add Sharp SDcontrol support to pcmciaapplet. We better ship cardmon for the kernel 2.4 devices |
| 18:38.45 | hrw | ok |
| 18:39.46 | mickeyl | i hope we can finally get this thing out next month. What do you think? |
| 18:39.51 | hrw | ipsec/openswan must go off from collie |
| 18:39.55 | hrw | I hope so |
| 18:40.35 | mickeyl | the branch will either be frozen then or become yet another point release if there's enough interest. |
| 18:40.45 | mickeyl | that'll make it easier for people to recreate 3.5.4 |
| 18:40.57 | mickeyl | bbl, washing dishes |
| 18:41.01 | hrw | frozen for bugfixes (feed/upgrades) |
| 18:41.41 | hrw | I know WHY people get broken font in opie-console |
| 18:41.42 | hrw | ;) |
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| 18:43.58 | hrw | mickeyl: can qt/e have font substitutions? |
| 18:45.09 | zecke | hrw: because fixed is missing |
| 18:45.22 | hrw | zecke: exactly |
| 18:45.48 | hrw | and probably there is no way to tell qt/e which font should be used instead.. |
| 18:46.13 | zecke | not dynamically |
| 18:46.16 | hrw | anyway it works on collie out-of-box - no /home/ here |
| 18:46.30 | hrw | zecke: only in fontdir by duplicating line? |
| 18:49.29 | zecke | IIRC yes+ |
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| 18:50.43 | hrw | ok. so will leave it as it is |
| 18:50.44 | orangey | hey all! |
| 18:51.00 | orangey | anybody know where I can find a qvfb package? |
| 18:51.04 | orangey | hrw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:51.13 | mickeyl | vanille.de/tools |
| 18:51.14 | orangey | hrw: just the man I wished to talk to.. |
| 18:51.36 | orangey | hrw: I'm trying to get kdepim working on gpe. Is this the work you had done but not packaged (bug 371)? |
| 18:52.10 | hrw | orangey: it was just started as I dont use kdepim/pi anymore |
| 18:52.18 | hrw | orangey: feel free to finish it |
| 18:52.19 | orangey | hrw: what do you use? |
| 18:52.42 | orangey | hrw: I would love to finish, but I'm relatively new to OE. Just got my hx4700 a few weeks ago. |
| 18:53.00 | zecke | orangey: hey, what do you want to achieve? |
| 18:53.04 | hrw | orangey: standard opie pim |
| 18:53.12 | hrw | zecke: kdepim/pi x11 |
| 18:53.15 | orangey | hrw: A couple of questions: 1. What is the compilation platform? Usually I compile on the platform that I use, but that seems silly here.. |
| 18:53.33 | orangey | zecke: I want to be able to sync remote calendars using some secure method (e.g., scp) |
| 18:54.00 | orangey | hrw: what platform do you use? |
| 18:54.12 | hrw | x86 for builds |
| 18:54.30 | orangey | hrw: OK, so if you use OPIE, why were you trying to get kdepim working with x11? |
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| 18:58.38 | mickeyl | because he's nice and this has been requested |
| 18:58.45 | mickeyl | by GPE folks |
| 18:58.47 | orangey | ooooooh. |
| 18:58.51 | orangey | OK. |
| 18:58.53 | orangey | cool. |
| 18:59.04 | orangey | so, I guess I'm one of the people who would love to see this happen : ) |
| 18:59.13 | orangey | but I'm not sure exactly where to start contributing.. |
| 18:59.38 | zecke | orangey: I would first get it compiled natively (e.g. your desktop machine) |
| 18:59.51 | zecke | orangey: and then starting using OE to cross compiler for your ARM device |
| 19:00.28 | orangey | zecke: OK, fair enough if I knew what cross compiling were, but I'll look that up.. |
| 19:00.42 | orangey | zecke: So, hrw has actually "finished" this work. |
| 19:01.03 | orangey | zecke: but I'm not sure how to apply things. |
| 19:01.11 | orangey | he has patches based on 2.2.3 |
| 19:01.32 | orangey | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 |
| 19:02.00 | zecke | orangey: I guess he did not |
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| 19:04.36 | orangey | zecke: well, it's not packaged.. |
| 19:05.05 | orangey | OK.. is there any documentation on how to "cross-compile using OE"? |
| 19:05.37 | zecke | orangey: oe.handhelds.org |
| 19:05.51 | zecke | orangey: OE is a build system, it helps to create Distributions easily |
| 19:06.22 | zecke | orangey: e.g bitbake gpe-image would (cross)compile and package everything necessary |
| 19:06.49 | hrw | orangey: I will update to 2.2.7 later |
| 19:06.57 | orangey | hrw: update what? |
| 19:07.00 | hrw | and downgrade oz354fam083 version to 2.2.0 |
| 19:07.02 | hrw | kdepim/pi |
| 19:07.05 | hrw | in OE |
| 19:07.41 | orangey | hrw: OK. Well, Could you tell me what's left to be done? I don't mind finishing the work now, even if it involves a lot of studying to figure out how OE works. |
| 19:07.57 | hrw | orangey: creating pacakges probably |
| 19:08.01 | orangey | hrw: it sounds like all that is left is packing it. |
| 19:09.06 | hrw | sure |
| 19:09.41 | orangey | hrw: This must sound stupid, but could you point me to any documentation on how to create an ipkg pack? |
| 19:09.47 | hrw | but packages have to be named like kopi-x11 kapi-x11 etc.. libs can be named like they are |
| 19:09.54 | hrw | orangey: http://www.openembedded.org/ |
| 19:10.26 | hrw | orangey: kdepimpi/qte libs will fsck kdepimpi/x11 and viceversa probably but we can live with it |
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| 19:10.49 | orangey | hrw: Could you pack up and send me the whole directory so I don't have to figure out how to cross compile? |
| 19:10.55 | orangey | and then I'll do the packaging |
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| 19:12.11 | orangey | You know what.. it just occurred to me that I don't even remember the last time I used DCC. |
| 19:12.26 | hrw | orangey: I cannot as I dont have one now |
| 19:12.51 | hrw | orangey: and I have 170kbps upload so I prefer to not send anything |
| 19:13.07 | hrw | mickeyl: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/releases/354/ started |
| 19:13.18 | orangey | hrw: OK.. So, I figure if I'm going to go "from scratch", I may as well try to make 2.2.5 work.. advice? |
| 19:13.48 | hrw | orangey: current 'stable' is 2.2.0, current 'testing' is 2.2.7 |
| 19:14.09 | orangey | it says stable is 2.2.5 |
| 19:14.16 | hrw | orangey: kdepimpi need some patches for x11 (I wrote them already) which need to be sent upstream (which I will do soon) |
| 19:14.27 | hrw | really? nice |
| 19:14.51 | orangey | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=104103&package_id=112604 |
| 19:15.02 | hrw | so I will do 2.2.7 for .dev and 2.2.5 for .oz354fam083 |
| 19:15.12 | hrw | orangey: and pacakging does not need patching sources |
| 19:15.32 | orangey | hrw: but compiling the binaries which will be packaged does, right? |
| 19:16.35 | hrw | orangey: patches are written now |
| 19:17.06 | orangey | I understand.. but you said that "packaging does not need patching sources". Does that mean that it doesn' need new patch work? or that it doesn't need patch work period? |
| 19:17.22 | hrw | orangey: building != packaging |
| 19:17.50 | orangey | hrw: I understand. but packaging can't happen unless building has happened. |
| 19:18.02 | orangey | hrw: and since nobody has a binary, I'm going to have to build, right? |
| 19:18.19 | hrw | orangey: use OE, build it and then add packaging part |
| 19:18.43 | orangey | hrw: It'll take me all day (if I'm lucky) to get that simple command done : ) |
| 19:18.47 | orangey | I'm gonna go try! |
| 19:22.43 | hrw | goodluck |
| 19:30.18 | hrw | NOTE: package kdepimpi-2.2.7-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 19:30.45 | hrw | now pwmpi has to build |
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| 19:31.59 | hrw | hi piku |
| 19:32.53 | orangey | woohoo! |
| 19:32.57 | orangey | hrw: How are you doing all that? |
| 19:33.11 | orangey | hrw: Are you making the X 11 packs, or is this the regular stuff? |
| 19:34.01 | hrw | NOTE: package pwmpi-2.2.7-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 19:34.05 | hrw | orangey: qt/e |
| 19:34.34 | orangey | hrw: : ) |
| 19:34.48 | hrw | orangey: how I do it? "bitbake kdepimpi pwmpi" |
| 19:35.55 | orangey | hrw: COol. I'm reading the wiki now |
| 19:36.42 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r189674c0... 10/: kdepimpi: upgraded to 2.2.7 (current testing) |
| 19:37.18 | hrw | mickey|TV: what do you think about one change in pcmciaapplet: set 'activate' as 1st choice. also maybe rename 'activate' to 'do nothing' which is better (or other more descriptive) |
| 19:37.48 | orangey | hrw: awesome : ) |
| 19:38.00 | hrw | orangey: awesome? OE is awesome |
| 19:38.20 | piku | hrw, activate means do nothing? |
| 19:38.28 | piku | see. it should be do nothing ;) |
| 19:39.03 | hrw | piku: basically 'activate' means 'do nothing in applet - let cardmgr do its job nevermind what it is' |
| 19:39.46 | hrw | piku: iirc - I dont use that applet |
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| 19:51.22 | hrw | hi koen |
| 19:51.42 | hrw | koen: can I give patch for #350 with something which is not in .dev? |
| 19:52.03 | hrw | koen: I want to add kdepimpi 2.2.5 (current stable) into .oz354fam083 - we have 2.2.7 in .dev |
| 19:52.30 | koen | I think so |
| 19:53.15 | hrw | next one will be harder stuff.. reorganized collie.conf which will not use handhelds-common.conf to gain some / space (no-ipsec) |
| 19:53.44 | koen | makes sense |
| 19:53.49 | koen | collie only has 14MB |
| 19:53.59 | koen | and most stuff was optimzed of 16MB |
| 19:54.09 | koen | (16MB - kernel to be exact) |
| 19:54.50 | hrw | 0.6M free is a bit too low |
| 19:55.05 | koen | especially with jffs2 |
| 19:55.10 | hrw | anyway users will complain even when we will give them 3M free |
| 19:55.26 | koen | I always keep 1MB free to be safe |
| 19:55.46 | hrw | I usually move /opt/ to sd card so have ~8M free |
| 19:56.08 | koen | does jffs2 need a % free space or a fixed number of kB? |
| 19:56.18 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.25 | hrw | koen: opie |
| 19:56.42 | hrw | koen: not only you;) |
| 19:57.31 | koen | ever since SuSE fscked my system with /opt voodoo I avoid it like the plague |
| 19:58.28 | hrw | I dont have /opt on debian |
| 19:59.13 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.28 | koen | *cough* RPM *cough* |
| 19:59.40 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.00 | hrw | emte: if compiled by user then maybe it use /opt/ |
| 20:00.37 | emte | any non-core packages are "supposed" to go into /opt instead of /usr/local or /usr/share accroding to LSB |
| 20:00.42 | koen | distro stuff should go in /usr, local stuff in /usr/local and /opt may be used for evil closed source binaries |
| 20:01.30 | emte | i dislike most of the LSB policies myself |
| 20:03.42 | emte | i forget how it goes exactly but its soemthing like: /usr - install time /usr/local - post install core /usr/share - post install core with user access /opt - all non-core packages |
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| 20:18.27 | orangey | hrw: Is there a "proper" way to define my sourceforge mirror? or should I just hand-edit the file? |
| 20:18.46 | hrw | orangey: oe wiki: UsingMirrors |
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| 20:20.25 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:21.40 | orangey | hrw: thanks |
| 20:23.52 | orangey | NOTE: The included, default BB base.bbclass does not define a useful default task. \ NOTE: Try running the 'listtasks' task against a .bb to see what tasks are defined. \ Build statistics:\ Attempted builds: 1 |
| 20:23.59 | orangey | hmmm. OK, seems like there's one last obstacle here (that one) |
| 20:24.19 | orangey | that's with "bitbake kdepmpi" or "bitbake kdepimpi-x11" |
| 20:26.16 | Pigi | kdepimpi-x11 ? |
| 20:26.42 | orangey | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 |
| 20:26.48 | orangey | kdepimpi for x11 |
| 20:27.16 | orangey | bitbake is a really amazing build system.. I'm actually quite surprised. |
| 20:29.18 | Pigi | orangey, it is not yet in oe, isn't it ? |
| 20:29.30 | orangey | Pigi: That's what we're trying to change.. |
| 20:29.34 | orangey | I'm trying to build and package it now. |
| 20:29.44 | orangey | however, I'm obviously an idiot : ) |
| 20:29.57 | orangey | so it may take a while. |
| 20:30.23 | Pigi | let me try to vompile it. I do love kdepimpi |
| 20:30.31 | Pigi | compile even |
| 20:30.40 | orangey | pigi: please go ahead : ) |
| 20:31.16 | orangey | how do you build this stuff? I tried bitbake kdepimpi -c listtasks |
| 20:31.23 | orangey | and it showed me "do_build", but it wont' take it. |
| 20:31.43 | Pigi | it should be as easy as bitbake kdepimpi-x11 I suppose |
| 20:31.59 | orangey | riiiiight : ) |
| 20:32.06 | orangey | that gives the message as above |
| 20:32.52 | orangey | [14:23] <orangey> NOTE: The included, default BB base.bbclass does not define a useful default task. \ NOTE: Try running the 'listtasks' task against a .bb to see what tasks are defined. \ Build statistics:\ Attempted builds: 1 |
| 20:32.57 | Pigi | apologize, I just joined. |
| 20:33.20 | orangey | Pigi: any ideas? |
| 20:33.44 | Pigi | just the time that my pc gives the error also to me. |
| 20:34.04 | mickey|TV | that's a wrong BBPATH - it picks up the bitbake base.bbclass, not the OE base.bbclass. |
| 20:34.04 | orangey | pigi : ) |
| 20:34.18 | orangey | mickey|TV: huh? |
| 20:34.28 | orangey | mickey|TV: so where do we put the right "OE base.bbclass"? |
| 20:34.36 | orangey | I put BBPATH=/stuff/bittake/ |
| 20:34.39 | orangey | bitbake, even |
| 20:34.42 | mickey|TV | yeah, that's wrong |
| 20:34.48 | mickey|TV | reread gettingstarted |
| 20:34.49 | Pigi | absolutelly wrong :) |
| 20:34.52 | hrw | orangey: BBPATH=builddir:oedir |
| 20:35.00 | orangey | woah. |
| 20:35.02 | orangey | OK. moment. |
| 20:35.08 | hrw | mickey|TV: what do you think about my proposition to pcmciaapplet change? |
| 20:35.28 | koen|770 | hey mickey|TV |
| 20:35.40 | mickey|TV | "do nothing", while being technically accurate does sound worse than "activate" to me |
| 20:35.47 | ggilbert | heya mickey |
| 20:35.47 | mickey|TV | but I rethink it |
| 20:35.50 | mickey|TV | hi ggilbert |
| 20:35.52 | mickey|TV | hi koen |
| 20:35.52 | ggilbert | how goes the phd? |
| 20:36.10 | mickey|TV | ggilbert: ever got my mail about admin rights for the bugtracker? would like to add some categories and restructure stuff |
| 20:36.16 | mickey|TV | phd goes... slowly, but progressing. |
| 20:36.17 | ggilbert | let me add you |
| 20:36.21 | mickey|TV | thanks |
| 20:36.22 | ggilbert | There was a small problem |
| 20:36.28 | ggilbert | The mail server was offline :p |
| 20:36.30 | hrw | mickey|TV: nevermind how it will be named - make it first choice instead of suspend |
| 20:36.34 | koen|770 | ggilbert: bugzilla is working great! |
| 20:36.36 | mickey|TV | hrw: *nod* |
| 20:36.37 | ggilbert | and the monitoring script erm... couldnt mail me :p |
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| 20:36.41 | mickey|TV | heh |
| 20:37.40 | ggilbert | I'll add you as an admin |
| 20:37.46 | ggilbert | Anyone else who should be added? |
| 20:37.49 | mickey|TV | koen, please |
| 20:37.53 | ggilbert | ok |
| 20:37.57 | mickey|TV | perhaps hrw as well |
| 20:38.04 | mickey|TV | that should be enough for now |
| 20:38.08 | hrw | oe bugzilla? |
| 20:38.10 | mickey|TV | yep |
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| 20:38.16 | koen|770 | mickey|TV: In think the bootstrap part in the branch is good to go |
| 20:38.35 | hrw | I'm familiar with it at reporter level and let it stay like that for now |
| 20:38.48 | hrw | in other words: current status is ok for me |
| 20:38.52 | mickey|TV | koen: ok, leaves some subtle issues in opie and gpe to fix before the release |
| 20:38.56 | mickey|TV | hrw: k |
| 20:39.12 | Pigi | koen|770, I've tried g_ether on h39 but it seems that it doesn't work. |
| 20:39.55 | koen|770 | Pigi: ok, maybe patrick has some hints |
| 20:40.40 | Pigi | who's patrick ( irc nick ) ? |
| 20:41.09 | koen|770 | pohly on irc |
| 20:41.31 | koen|770 | he responded to your bug |
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| 20:41.59 | koen|770 | and he's the one who backported g_ether |
| 20:42.54 | Pigi | I see. I will read on the bug, but it seems that g_ether is not sending events on usb port. |
| 20:47.26 | orangey | pigi: any luck with that compile? |
| 20:48.07 | Pigi | not completely. It is complaining now about "moc" not found. |
| 20:48.32 | Pigi | maybe there is some missing dependencies on the .bb file. |
| 20:48.46 | orangey | pigi: hrw suspected as much |
| 20:48.49 | hrw | http://sztuka-reklamy.info/tv/others/IWantWalkYouHome2.avi roxx |
| 20:49.01 | hrw | orangey: really? |
| 20:49.18 | Pigi | hrw, what's that link ? |
| 20:49.39 | hrw | Pigi: lets name it 'commercial' |
| 20:49.39 | orangey | hrw: When you spoke of not spending time on getting the dependencies right |
| 20:49.50 | Pigi | ok. |
| 20:50.07 | hrw | orangey: no - I was talking that it is not packaged |
| 20:50.20 | orangey | hrw: OK. I'm out of ideas then : ) |
| 20:50.25 | orangey | hrw: any thoughts on the 'moc' problem? |
| 20:51.07 | hrw | orangey: build qt3 |
| 20:52.01 | orangey | with bitbake, or on the system? |
| 20:52.04 | Pigi | hrw, I suspect that the kdepimpi-x11 build would take a lot of space :) |
| 20:52.14 | hrw | orangey: its #oe so with bitbake |
| 20:52.34 | hrw | Pigi: less then few G ;) |
| 20:52.40 | hrw | time for movie.. |
| 20:52.54 | orangey | hrw: OK... |
| 20:52.54 | hrw | today it will be: The Chronicles of Riddick |
| 20:53.13 | Pigi | hrw|afk, heh |
| 20:53.53 | hrw|afk | Pigi: I dont know how much - I had gpe-image built before |
| 20:54.25 | Pigi | ok. I will thest then |
| 20:56.33 | Pigi | hrw|afk, when you say "build qt3", you probably mean qte-x11 ? |
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| 20:57.43 | hrw|afk | I meant qt-free-x11 3.x (or how it is called in OE) |
| 20:57.57 | hrw|afk | qt-x11-free_3.3.5.bb |
| 20:57.59 | Pigi | ok. I suspected. Sorry |
| 20:58.08 | hrw|afk | np |
| 20:58.30 | orangey | Pigi: so what does that mean? I do bitbake qt-x11-free , THEN the other one? would it keep them both in the same "environment" so one can use the other? |
| 20:58.45 | Pigi | orangey, yes |
| 20:59.05 | orangey | pigi: and where do I grab the qt .bb? |
| 21:00.06 | zecke | orangey: you need BitBake + the OpenEmbedded tree |
| 21:00.07 | Pigi | is in org.openembedded.dev, so you should have it on your machine |
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| 21:00.15 | Pigi | hi zecke |
| 21:00.19 | zecke | orangey: and then packages/qt/* |
| 21:00.32 | orangey | zecke: OK. |
| 21:00.40 | orangey | monotone is getting it now. |
| 21:00.45 | orangey | how many megs is the tree? |
| 21:00.55 | zecke | ~ewi |
| 21:00.59 | ibot | i heard ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 |
| 21:01.05 | zecke | orangey: you might get the complete tree from ewi |
| 21:01.21 | zecke | orangey: this goes way faster than pulling/cloning the db |
| 21:01.29 | Pigi | orangey, 126 megs for bb files, and 190+ for oe.db |
| 21:02.02 | orangey | wow. |
| 21:02.04 | orangey | OK. |
| 21:02.11 | orangey | and then I update by checking out or something? |
| 21:02.41 | hrw|afk | orangey: by reading wiki again and again |
| 21:02.47 | hrw|afk | then you will know ;) |
| 21:03.24 | orangey | hrw: Come on : ) I don't want to become an OE programmer.. I just want to do this one thing. |
| 21:04.14 | hrw|afk | reading GettingStarted scares you? it has all that info |
| 21:04.25 | Pigi | and more.... |
| 21:04.38 | orangey | hrw: I am going through it.. |
| 21:04.48 | orangey | hrw: But different people have different modalities by which they learn best. |
| 21:04.49 | hrw|afk | orangey: you cannot start working with OE without reading and understanding GettingStarted |
| 21:05.12 | hrw|afk | anyway I will go back to Riddick. cu in ~2h |
| 21:05.35 | koen|770 | we shou |
| 21:05.55 | koen|770 | ld have .debs for bitbake |
| 21:08.11 | zecke | koen|770: ./setup.py dist_bin; alien... |
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| 21:28.24 | RP | Is anyone else missing oe-commits emails btw? |
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| 21:33.39 | koen|770 | RP: a lot of your mails are stuck in the hh.org mailq |
| 21:33.54 | koen|770 | your->to you |
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| 21:34.55 | koen|770 | run 'mailq' after logging to hh.org |
| 21:36.24 | RP | koen|770: strange. I can't get to hh.org :-/ |
| 21:36.45 | hrw|afk | -- 10016 Kbytes in 1389 Requests. |
| 21:36.50 | hrw|afk | nice amount of mails |
| 21:37.28 | hrw|afk | I suspect dns problem |
| 21:37.30 | koen|770 | the new MIT ip is blacklisted by spamcop |
| 21:37.43 | Pigi | I wonder why qte-x11 depends on mysql ( which could not be found on oesources.org ) |
| 21:37.44 | RP | host handhelds.org |
| 21:37.44 | RP | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 21:37.54 | koen|770 | and a lot isps use that list... |
| 21:38.07 | RP | I am my own mailserver so its not that... |
| 21:38.42 | koen|770 | and dns is still not quite right |
| 21:38.53 | pb_ | Pigi: iirc, because qt includes some kind of funky sql bindings. |
| 21:39.00 | zecke | Pigi: MySQL SQL plugin |
| 21:39.10 | RP | What are the ip numbers for hh.org dns servers? |
| 21:39.10 | Pigi | ah ok. |
| 21:39.11 | zecke | Pigi: That is inherited from schurig |
| 21:39.16 | lamikr | Hi koen. |
| 21:39.42 | koen|770 | hey lamikr |
| 21:40.30 | lamikr | I got finally up the new kernel patches that uses udev and brings some new drivers. Do you have time to apply those? |
| 21:40.33 | koen|770 | ~nslookup handhelds.org |
| 21:41.01 | koen|770 | ~nslookup ns.handhelds.org |
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| 21:41.57 | koen|770 | lamikr: maybe next week |
| 21:43.44 | lamikr | Ok... Is 0.8.3 happening soon? I could try to add more locales to gpe's timezone selection list. |
| 21:44.23 | Pigi | is there someone that can upload a mysql 4.1.12 on oesources, or provide a link for d/loading ? |
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| 21:47.36 | orangey | pigi: any luck with kdepimpi-x11? |
| 21:47.57 | Pigi | not yet. Searching a mysql ATM |
| 21:48.21 | RP | I think the hh.org domain is listing its nameservers as handhelds.org addresses rather than IP numbers? Can anyone confirm that? |
| 21:50.17 | Noodles | Depends what you mean. |
| 21:50.28 | Noodles | whois only lists the names, but the .org nameservers are handing out the glue ok. |
| 21:50.56 | Noodles | "dig @TLD1.ULTRADNS.NET. handhelds.org" gives 140.211.167.116 (snowmane) / 128.31.0.21 (firefoot). |
| 21:54.26 | RP | I can talk to firefoot but not snowmane. I don't understand why I'm seeing the errors I am. Something is wrong :-/ |
| 21:54.38 | Noodles | What are you seeing? |
| 21:54.48 | pb_ | I don't think snowmane has been installed yet. The DNS should work fine (albeit a bit slowly) with only firefoot, though. |
| 21:55.07 | pb_ | If you're actually getting wrong answers, you must have some stale cached data somewhere. |
| 21:55.36 | Noodles | 50% of queries timing out isn't good though. |
| 21:55.45 | RP | pb_: I'm getting no answers at all |
| 21:55.50 | pb_ | Noodles: heh, indeed. |
| 21:56.09 | RP | I can get them if I manually query firefoot... |
| 21:56.39 | Noodles | http://www.squish.net/dnscheck/ is lovely for such things btw. |
| 21:57.15 | CIA-7 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * re9974d38... 10/: (log message trimmed) |
| 21:57.16 | CIA-7 | nslu2-kernel: updated patch set and defconfig in 2.6.14 |
| 21:57.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.27 | pb_ | mm, cute |
| 22:04.10 | orangey | hmmm. so if I want to make a kernel using bitbake, it'll know what modules to pick for my hx4700? |
| 22:10.56 | hrw|afk | ;))) futuristic movie, made in US, and status display in prison is in Russian ;) |
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| 22:27.56 | RP | Why does my local dns always try to lookup snowmane.hh.org and fail? :-/ |
| 22:30.28 | Noodles | Has it cached a failure? |
| 22:30.54 | Noodles | Does "dig +trace www.handhelds.org" help at all? |
| 22:31.10 | Noodles | Oh. Interesting. |
| 22:31.15 | Noodles | That fails on snowmane for me too. |
| 22:32.54 | RP | Noodles: That's basically my problem. http://pastebin.com/411481 |
| 22:33.14 | Noodles | Yup. That's what I get on the same command. |
| 22:34.06 | Noodles | It would seen that firefoot has no A record for snowmane. |
| 22:34.11 | Noodles | s/seen/seem/ |
| 22:34.20 | Noodles | So there's a glue record for snowman, but that's all. |
| 22:34.35 | Noodles | Who's responsible for the DNS? |
| 22:35.23 | RP | france: ping |
| 22:35.48 | orangey | hrw: I have the following problem now: NOTE: package kdepimpi-x11-2.2.3-r0: task do_patch: started \ NOTE: Applying patch 'libkcal.patch' \ ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed |
| 22:36.09 | RP | Noodles: You're right, that's the problem. The A record is missing... |
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| 22:39.45 | orangey | hmm. |
| 22:39.51 | orangey | could somebody help me with the meaning of "file:// |
| 22:40.00 | orangey | "? Does that go from cwd? |
| 22:40.33 | Pigi | orangey, look at tmp/work/kdepimpi-x11/temp/log_do something. |
| 22:40.42 | orangey | Pigi: empty |
| 22:41.39 | orangey | oh. I may be missing quilt.. |
| 22:41.49 | Pigi | it could be. |
| 22:42.03 | orangey | that was in /temp/run.do... |
| 22:42.21 | orangey | yep. worked. |
| 23:21.42 | Pigi | nite all |
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| 23:32.44 | france | RP: hi |
| 23:33.49 | magnet | hi |
| 23:33.56 | france | Noodles: hi |
| 23:35.08 | france | RP: snowmane is on a truck heading to OSU, firefoot is the 2ndary dns server. We will have to live with the 2ndary until the primary arrives and is setup. |
| 23:36.21 | RP | france: Can you add an A entry to point snowmane at firefoot for now or something? You can no doubt see the problems that are occuring :-/ |
| 23:37.38 | france | RP: yes, I can do that, but in theory things should just automagicly fail over, also, the bigger problem is that the ip address for snowmane is set at a level higher than me with the domain name provider. |
| 23:38.03 | france | RP: I would have to change it with network solutions which takes about 5 days, by which time the server should be up. |
| 23:38.49 | RP | france: The problem is in that pastebin I showed earlier - the fallover doesn't work when both entries don't have IPs. The IPs don't have to work but they do need to have them by the looks of it :-/ |
| 23:39.16 | RP | france: I know the network solutions one is wrong but that's not the one causing the problem... |
| 23:39.45 | france | RP: after dinner maybe I can do some ip alias magic and setup a fake snowmane at OSU. |
| 23:40.45 | hrw|afk | currently to resolve hh.org NS you need hh.org NS? |
| 23:40.50 | hrw | re |
| 23:40.50 | RP | france: I suspect even an A entry for snowmane with firegoot's ip address would do the trick for now... |
| 23:41.49 | france | I would doubt it, as most folks get the ip from a much higher level. |
| 23:43.01 | france | you have to get the ip of snowmane before you can reach snowmane. |
| 23:43.34 | RP | and that's the problem, it asks firefoot for snowmane's ip address which fails the query |
| 23:44.00 | RP | If it handed out an address for snowmane's ip address, it would fail to contact it and retry on firefoot |
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| 23:44.50 | RP | or if it hands out firefoot's address, it will connect and get the data without a retry... |
| 23:45.43 | france | RP: added an A record for snowmane pointing to OSU, this will get ride of the snowmane not found error |
| 23:46.03 | france | RP: I will setup something up at OSU after dinner, (a temp fix, until the servers arrive.) |
| 23:46.18 | france | RP: pointing it to firefoot will just cuase issues one level up. |
| 23:47.11 | france | RP: TTL is 20 minutes, lets see what happens then. |
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| 23:48.28 | hrw | cu - have a good night, day, evening |
| 23:49.50 | RP | france: Ok, thanks. I'll probably be in bed by then :) |
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| 23:52.00 | france | RP: I will try to find somebody else with the same issue, as dns works perfectly from my house |
| 23:52.24 | france | RP: it appears that only about 1 in 10 people are having issues. |
| 23:53.31 | RP | france: "mailq" on hh.org should give an idea if its resolved... |
| 23:54.05 | france | RP: that is only part of the problem many of those are bounces from spamcop |
| 23:54.26 | RP | france: From what I can see here, the tld*.ultradns.net servers are looking more healthly now so it might be working... |
| 23:54.43 | france | RP: they put that server on their block list as they are having issues not be able to match the forward and reverse dns entries. |
| 23:54.59 | RP | france: The rpsys.net ones (my server) are DNS failures. If they clear up, you know its working :) |
| 23:55.00 | france | RP: I hired a lawyer in CA to go after them on Monday. |
| 23:55.21 | france | RP: very nice. |
| 23:56.28 | RP | Hopefully spamcop might recheck the DNS and drop you from the list again :-/ |
| 23:57.49 | france | RP: they did not respond to e-mail :-( |