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| 06:04.00 | koobla | hi all! |
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| 07:33.24 | zuery | i'm trying to compile chmlib.. |
| 07:34.35 | zuery | i have a problem... compiling it.. it says.. libchm.so uses hardware FP, whereas conftest software FP |
| 07:36.14 | zuery | is there any way for debian dev packages to be recompile from hard fp to soft fp? |
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| 08:08.59 | RP | morning all |
| 08:10.30 | XorA | morning |
| 08:12.33 | alan|home | morning ! |
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| 09:11.54 | activekevin | Hi,jenna |
| 09:12.40 | Jenna | hi activekevin |
| 09:13.20 | activekevin | did you know 'oe_runconf'? |
| 09:14.37 | activekevin | Jenna: what does the function 'oe_runconf' do.? |
| 09:15.07 | Jenna | I have no idea. but the the looks of that it prolly run runsconf |
| 09:15.26 | koen | it runs configure with the appropriate --host and --target flags |
| 09:15.33 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:15.45 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 09:17.48 | activekevin | koen:what shall I configure it ,it auto configure?? |
| 09:19.13 | koen | I don't understand the question |
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| 09:21.06 | activekevin | koen:I adding a package to OE |
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| 09:21.50 | activekevin | but I dont know how to write the do_configure |
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| 09:22.45 | Twiun | 'mornin |
| 09:22.48 | koen | just do 'inherit autuotools' |
| 09:22.52 | koen | hey Twiun |
| 09:23.01 | koen | that will do all teh configuring for you |
| 09:23.06 | activekevin | hi twiun |
| 09:24.44 | activekevin | but when it run do_install step,it cannot to install a right place |
| 09:26.00 | koen | hrw|work: why do the buttons in the titlebar look so bad? http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21463.png |
| 09:26.54 | hrw|work | koen: thats qvfb with lores graphics |
| 09:29.45 | Twiun | don't suppose anyone knows what a current oem embedded linux sdk should contain, version wise for Qt/kernel/etc? |
| 09:30.33 | koen | 2.4 lineo crap/qtopia 1.5 crap |
| 09:32.39 | Twiun | pretty much what I thought :( |
| 09:32.52 | Twiun | esp with a screeny showing kdevelop 2.1 |
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| 09:46.53 | activekevin | hi mallum |
| 09:47.23 | activekevin | koen:thank U |
| 09:52.04 | Twiun | koen: hmmm.... Qt/X11 on TinyX |
| 09:52.11 | Twiun | koen: no version numbers though |
| 09:53.01 | koen | kdrive was renamed from tinyX many moons ago |
| 09:58.27 | Twiun | aye, the whole things smells of mothballs |
| 09:59.23 | Twiun | don't suppose you know the year? |
| 10:00.16 | koen | 2003(ish) |
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| 10:02.15 | Twiun | cheers |
| 10:02.43 | hrw|work | fresh hot stuff |
| 10:18.16 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r981c860e... 10/packages/glib-2.0/glib-2.0_2.8.2.bb: packages/glib-2.0/ : update glib to 2.8.2 |
| 10:21.04 | hrw|work | koen: where you keep your feed for fam? |
| 10:21.54 | hrw|work | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ - found |
| 10:36.31 | hrw|work | NOTE: package sqlite3-3.2.7: completed |
| 10:37.38 | zuery | any idea how to get pocketop ir keyboard to work with OZ? |
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| 10:42.36 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 10:42.58 | hrw|work | zuery: send me one and I will add it into kbdd |
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| 10:45.16 | Bernardo | hi guys |
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| 10:47.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 10:48.54 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4b3d9cdd... 10/packages/gtk+/ (14 files in 2 dirs): packages/gtk+ : update gtk+ to 2.8.4 |
| 10:56.58 | CIA-7 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r83ab9cd6... 10/packages/sqlite/ (4 files in 2 dirs): sqlite3: added 3.2.7 version |
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| 11:35.15 | The_Ace | Does anyone else have trouble compiling xauth using bitbake |
| 11:55.09 | CIA-7 | 03br1 07org.oe.dev * r0f9bc56e... 10/packages/nylon/nylon-scripts_cvs.bb: test commit |
| 12:01.43 | hrw|work | RP: ping |
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| 12:17.12 | CIA-7 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6f6290cd... 10/classes/autotools.bbclass: |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-7 | class autotools: add function 'autotools_stage_all' that automatically stages |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-7 | include files and libraries for packages that obey DESTDIR. This can be used to |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-7 | remove a lot of duplicated metadata in do_stage() of packages that inherit autotools. |
| 12:17.12 | CIA-7 | Note that you need to call autotools_stage_all manually in do_stage. It may be |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-7 | added to do_stage() eventually, but for now we want to do the transition step-by-step. |
| 12:17.15 | CIA-7 | Feel free to convert do_stage of autotools packages to using autotools_stage_all. |
| 12:17.17 | CIA-7 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6b859f9d... 10/packages/ (ncurses/ncurses.inc readline/readline_4.3.bb): ncurse, readline: use autotools_stage_all |
| 12:18.02 | koen | ~hail mickeyl|bbl |
| 12:18.03 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickeyl|bbl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 12:22.32 | MP0 | will openembedded build a 2.6 kernel system or a 2.4 kernel system? |
| 12:23.15 | woglinde | it depends |
| 12:23.19 | koen | that depends on the machine |
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| 12:24.19 | hrw|work | koen: do you know does c7x0 can be flashed with dump of rootfs mtd? |
| 12:24.22 | MP0 | k |
| 12:25.14 | koen | hrw|work: I don't see why it can't |
| 12:25.43 | hrw|work | ok. so I can flash pdax now (dumped oz rootfs with dd) |
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| 12:26.18 | XorA | hrw|work: why not NAND backup/restore? |
| 12:26.43 | hrw|work | XorA: why write whole flash when I can write <half? |
| 12:27.09 | hrw|work | XorA: most of /home is empty |
| 12:34.22 | hrw|work | hmm.. pdax install guide is hard to understand.. |
| 12:34.40 | hrw|work | "Extract the 3 files - initrd.bin tools.tar updater.sh - to the root of your CF or SD/MMC card." - so copy tools.tar or unpack it? |
| 12:34.52 | koen | hrw|work: make a full nand backup |
| 12:35.03 | koen | I think pdaX resizes the partitions |
| 12:35.42 | hrw|work | koen: hmm. I forgot about that.. |
| 12:35.43 | lardman|work | just copy the file |
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| 12:36.21 | lardman|work | You could copy the zip file to the CF card and unzip it there, then delete the zip file & be ready to go iirc |
| 12:36.28 | hrw|work | "D+M battery out, power out, battery in" trick? |
| 12:36.48 | MP0 | is there any way to get oe to use passive FTP rather than active? or use HTTP when accessing kernel.org? |
| 12:36.52 | lardman|work | just do a reboot - we get complete power down with that don't we? |
| 12:37.14 | koen | MP0: OE uses wget, so you can put it in your .wgetrc |
| 12:37.25 | lardman|work | hrw|work: ah - you're talking to koen, sorry |
| 12:37.34 | Bernardo | RP: building a 2.6 kernel for the akita complains of a missing defconfig-akita, can I use the c3100 defconfig as base? |
| 12:37.37 | hrw|work | lardman|work: it has to be D+M pressed when Z is totally off power |
| 12:37.58 | MP0 | k, thanks |
| 12:38.02 | hrw|work | backuping.. |
| 12:38.06 | lardman|work | hrw|work: I thought you were talking about flashing pdaXrom, no idea about making a NAND backup |
| 12:38.21 | XorA | hrw|work: pdaXrom doesnt require resized partitions unless your / is smaller than the minimum install |
| 12:38.21 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I was talking about both ;) |
| 12:38.41 | XorA | hrw|work: it offers the choice, you dont have to take it |
| 12:38.58 | hrw|work | ok |
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| 12:39.10 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Prepare to drop back into the stone age wrt ipkg on pdaXrom |
| 12:39.41 | XorA | lardman|work: prepare to see how damn good GPE is you mean :-) |
| 12:40.12 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I just want to look inside it - they dont provide rootfs as tarball |
| 12:40.17 | lardman|work | XorA: Too right! I've no idea why people in the pdaXrom thread talk about flashing GPE then going back to pdaXrom and saying it's sooo much better |
| 12:40.36 | XorA | hrw|work: mount the initrd |
| 12:40.46 | lardman|work | yes, I was about to say that |
| 12:40.48 | koen | lardman|work: because the default OZ releases with gpe usually are stone age |
| 12:40.50 | hrw|work | XorA: and first fight with mtd? |
| 12:41.07 | lardman|work | koen: good point, we but that'll be fixed soon |
| 12:41.10 | XorA | hrw|work: ten secs with google tell you how, its as easy as a modprobe + dd + mount |
| 12:42.12 | lardman|work | koen: speaking of which, we'll need decent backlight support for the release, is it worth my while turning my hack of bl into a seperate package so it can be used without replacing the original? |
| 12:42.29 | hrw|work | and extra reboot to get kernel informed that mtd support is enabled |
| 12:42.37 | koen | the 'original' sucks |
| 12:43.00 | lardman|work | yes, but I presume it works, I don't know if mine does for the iPAQs, etc. |
| 12:43.40 | koen | write a .bb for and attach it to the OE bugzilla |
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| 12:48.12 | lardman|work | koen: okay |
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| 12:49.42 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 12:49.55 | koen | hey Pigi |
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| 13:01.11 | hrw|work | hmm.. my first non OZ install on Zaurus |
| 13:03.35 | mickeyl | morning |
| 13:03.38 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 13:03.56 | mickeyl | uh oh... hrw is going to be unfaithful :) |
| 13:04.41 | lardman|work | I think he'll come back in the end ;) |
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| 13:05.15 | hrw|work | how could you doubt that I will stay with !OE generated? |
| 13:05.32 | mickeyl | dunno. maybe pdaxrom is better these days? |
| 13:06.12 | koen | hey mickeyl |
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| 13:06.38 | hrw|work | nice fb logo |
| 13:07.31 | hrw|work | sysvinit 2.85, devfsd 1.3.25, openssh |
| 13:08.24 | hrw|work | and I will touch pdax with my broken stylus... I wrote that I wont do it... heh |
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| 13:08.50 | mickeyl | hehehe |
| 13:09.05 | hrw|work | busybox 1.01 - wow.. |
| 13:09.26 | hrw|work | keymap is not sharplike... / is / not , |
| 13:09.27 | lardman|work | koen: added a bb and packaged up the .c file and a Makefile for it |
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| 13:10.28 | lardman|work | Is that God punishing hrw for straying then...? |
| 13:10.32 | mickeyl | haha |
| 13:10.34 | mickeyl | might be |
| 13:10.36 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
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| 13:11.20 | hrw|work | busybox 1.01 vi is useless |
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| 13:11.45 | hrw|work | had to reboot to quit |
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| 13:12.38 | CIA-7 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r278b6ab1... 10/packages/busybox/busybox_1.01.bb: busybox: set 1.0.1 as default |
| 13:13.04 | mickeyl | imo we should ship nano with the default images |
| 13:13.22 | koen | more space wasting |
| 13:13.29 | hrw|work | argh... they have twm.... |
| 13:13.36 | hrw|work | ~lart pdax for twm |
| 13:14.09 | hrw|work | default X session: twm, 3 xterms, xclock |
| 13:14.21 | koen | old school |
| 13:14.34 | koen | that's how I used X 7 years ago |
| 13:15.00 | koen | then I switched to afterstep |
| 13:15.20 | hrw|work | I never used twm |
| 13:15.24 | hrw|work | until today |
| 13:15.43 | hrw|work | but there is matchbox too... |
| 13:15.44 | koen | wharf would be nice to have |
| 13:15.58 | koen | the nested drawer feature is pretty nice on a ts |
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| 13:16.35 | lardman|work | A taskbar applet for matchbox would be nice |
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| 13:17.56 | pb_ | hail mickeyl |
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| 13:19.54 | MP0 | You guys sparked me to read on matchbox |
| 13:20.10 | MP0 | in the list of features, it says |
| 13:20.18 | MP0 | Well Documented through out. |
| 13:20.24 | MP0 | Documented is a hyperlink that 404s |
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| 13:30.26 | koen | hrw|work: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.22105.png |
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| 13:31.01 | koen | I cheated a bit by running gnome-session over remote-X |
| 13:31.12 | hrw|work | correct me if I'm wrong - Verdana is not distribuable font? |
| 13:35.11 | reenoo_ | hrw|work: right. you can download (and use) but not re-distribute it |
| 13:36.49 | koen | so an empty ipkg which wgets it in postinst would be ok? |
| 13:37.11 | hrw|work | koen: wget, unpack from cab/exe |
| 13:37.27 | hrw|work | "You may only redistribute the fonts in their original form (.exe or .sit.hqx) and with their original file name from your Web site or intranet site." |
| 13:37.51 | hrw|work | do I have to say which fonts I found in pdax? |
| 13:37.53 | reenoo_ | koen: yeah. that's what debian has been doing for years |
| 13:38.04 | hrw|work | verdana, times new roman, lucida console |
| 13:38.10 | reenoo_ | koen: (msttcorefonts) |
| 13:39.48 | koen | shouldn't be too hard to write a class or .inc which abstracts the unpacking and installing |
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| 13:43.07 | XorA | hrw|work: should report pdaXrom to MS for piracy out of evilness :-) |
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| 13:46.02 | hrw|work | argh.... |
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| 13:55.32 | hrw|work | re again |
| 13:56.29 | lardman|work | hrw|work: punishment from God for your trying pdaXrom ;) |
| 13:56.40 | lardman|work | damn! I bet he missed that too |
| 13:59.01 | oho | Hello I have a quick question, when I used to build packages I said bitbake package and got an .ipk file in my deploy. But after the last pull I don't get .ipk files anymore, eventhough the build process ends normally. Has something changed in bitbake ? or have I currupted my system ? Thank you |
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| 14:00.59 | hrw|work | cxu |
| 14:01.31 | lardman|work | oho: iirc there's a setting in local.conf which sets whether you want ipks as the output... |
| 14:01.55 | lardman|work | oho: but all else aside, you should get ipks, I certainly do |
| 14:02.47 | oho | lardman|work : thank you --- if that's the case I will check my system |
| 14:06.32 | oho | lardman|work: thank's for the pointer, I recently changed my distro and tried if 0.8.3 is recognised, but it isn't and the autofunction which builds ipk when a recognised distro is set does therefore not work |
| 14:13.59 | lardman|work | oho: Cool |
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| 14:19.07 | CosmicPenguin | wow - amazing how acustomed I have grown to the bitbake vim syntax |
| 14:19.57 | MP0 | why does every vim seem to act differently? |
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| 14:25.37 | hrw|work | maybe this time I will stay for more then 5minutes |
| 14:25.49 | hrw|work | ~curse koffice developers |
| 14:25.50 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, koffice developers ! |
| 14:25.54 | hrw|work | ASSERT: "!(paintingObscured > 0 && d->extra()->obscuringCells.isEmpty())" in ../../kspread/kspread_cell.cc (2133) |
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| 14:30.06 | lucasvo | hi |
| 14:30.33 | lucasvo | whats wrong: lucasvo@lama:~$ monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox}" |
| 14:30.36 | lucasvo | monotone: misuse: database /stuff/oe.db does not exist |
| 14:30.58 | hrw|work | 29 16:32 < lucasvo> monotone: misuse: database /stuff/oe.db does not exist |
| 14:31.52 | hrw|work | that is wrong |
| 14:31.53 | lucasvo | hrw|work: but what does that mean? |
| 14:31.56 | hrw|work | that /stuff/oe.db does not exist |
| 14:31.56 | hrw|work | simple |
| 14:33.09 | lucasvo | hrw|work: so I have to create it? |
| 14:33.33 | hrw|work | read monotone doc |
| 14:33.37 | lucasvo | hrw|work: why isn't that described in:http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 14:34.20 | oho | lucasvo: it is described, you need to creat the db first and make your you replace /stuff with the directory you are working in |
| 14:35.08 | hrw|work | lucasvo: read it again but this time read and think when read |
| 14:35.11 | hrw|work | Generate a monotone db. (monotone db init --db=/stuff/oe.db). (Note: this will not work on NFS drive) |
| 14:35.15 | hrw|work | point 3 |
| 14:35.39 | hrw|work | GettingStarted is written good, checked etc. |
| 14:36.23 | lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/handheld/openembedded/stuff$ monotone db init --db=/stuff/oe.db |
| 14:36.23 | lucasvo | monotone: fatal: std::runtime_error: could not open database: /stuff/oe.db: unable to open database file |
| 14:36.26 | lucasvo | monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone. |
| 14:36.42 | lucasvo | and it is not nfs |
| 14:37.06 | hrw|work | let me guess.. |
| 14:37.13 | woglinde | lucasvo are you sure that /stuff exists? |
| 14:37.15 | hrw|work | you dont have /stuff/ directory? |
| 14:37.23 | woglinde | hrw *g* |
| 14:37.52 | lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/handheld/openembedded$ ls |
| 14:37.52 | lucasvo | stuff |
| 14:38.05 | lucasvo | or is it absolute path? |
| 14:38.24 | hrw|work | lucasvo: /stuff/ is EXAMPLE |
| 14:38.43 | hrw|work | it can be /home/umba/umba/bumcykcyk/oe/ |
| 14:39.12 | woglinde | lucasvo what you think / stands for? |
| 14:39.12 | lucasvo | hrw|work: so it is absolute? |
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| 14:40.06 | hrw|work | lucasvo: OE can be in ANY place in filesystem - /stuff/ is example |
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| 14:40.34 | hrw|work | I use ~/devel/oe/ ~/devel/build/ |
| 14:40.43 | hrw|work | with ~/ expanded in configs |
| 14:40.58 | lucasvo | I mean I have to put in asbolute path? |
| 14:41.33 | hrw|work | lucasvo: in local.conf YES, for monotone - you can use any |
| 14:41.48 | hrw|work | MOT: hostap-modules 0.4.5 has WE19 |
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| 14:49.13 | hrw|work | flashing OZ |
| 14:49.19 | hrw|work | enough pdax for years |
| 14:50.24 | lardman|work | hrw|work: learn anything useful? |
| 14:50.41 | hrw|work | you are kidding? |
| 14:50.52 | hrw|work | one thing I learnt anyway... |
| 14:51.05 | hrw|work | twm is ugly etc |
| 14:51.44 | hrw|work | hmm.. I flashed nearly 200% of / now (restoting initrd.bin) |
| 14:52.19 | hrw|work | rebooting... |
| 14:52.50 | koen | I bet the psaX people will call us childish when we would point out they illegal distribution |
| 14:53.15 | lardman|work | Yes, I'd be loath to say anything unless you have to |
| 14:53.48 | koen | tell offroadgeek he's promoting warez |
| 14:53.57 | lardman|work | Perhaps in the release notes for 3.5.4 explain why the fonts can't be included (and ask the question of how pdaXrom do it, etc...) |
| 14:54.22 | lardman|work | koen: I don't think he promotes any particular flavour, he just runs the forums |
| 14:55.00 | koen | by doing that he promotes warez |
| 14:55.31 | XorA | hrw|work: they use twm by default now? |
| 14:55.32 | koen | since the forums contain links to warez |
| 14:55.36 | XorA | hrw|work: thats a regression |
| 14:56.02 | XorA | point out everyone who donates in the EU is now a criminal :-D |
| 14:56.04 | hrw|work | XorA: they use matchbox but that image does not contain matchbox-window-manager (but has panel, session, dsektop) |
| 14:56.21 | XorA | hrw|work: it used to be blackbox + mb-* |
| 14:56.34 | hrw|work | really? |
| 14:56.54 | hrw|work | anyway it suxx too badly for me |
| 14:57.08 | XorA | hrw|work: Id agree with that, bb was buggy as hell |
| 14:57.16 | XorA | they could at least have used openbox |
| 14:57.18 | hrw|work | it == pdax rc11 |
| 14:58.20 | hrw|work | again 100$ laptop? |
| 14:58.33 | XorA | hrw|work: design by MIT with windup power |
| 14:58.41 | XorA | hrw|work: and its not April |
| 14:58.53 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.54 | XorA | looks like a good platform for OE |
| 14:58.58 | koen | probably a dupe from april |
| 15:00.07 | alan|home | guys, it is not oe related, but my laptop gives me an error "PCI : cannot allocate resource region (0, 1 2 and then 3) for device blabla"... do you know where it can come from ? |
| 15:00.45 | alan|home | i mean i know it comes from my wifi card, but what part of the kernel is in charge with that ? |
| 15:00.50 | hrw|work | alan|home: 2.6.13? |
| 15:00.56 | alan|home | nop |
| 15:00.59 | alan|home | 2.6.11 |
| 15:01.10 | hrw|work | then try 2.6.13 - they changed pci code |
| 15:01.49 | alan|home | hehehe !! now i hope i'll be able to have a bootable kernel for this laptop... i have tried 2.6.13... with no luck... |
| 15:02.00 | XorA | alan|home: what wireless card? |
| 15:02.01 | alan|home | thanks hrw|work |
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| 15:02.10 | alan|home | a stupid unknown card... |
| 15:02.30 | XorA | alan|home: on board card? |
| 15:02.58 | alan|home | yep... |
| 15:03.06 | hrw|work | restoring NAND |
| 15:03.11 | XorA | alan|home: sounds like its not upto spec :-( |
| 15:03.25 | alan|home | XorA: upto spec what ? |
| 15:03.53 | alan|home | i'm sorry XorA but i don't understand... |
| 15:09.59 | alan|home | got to go work... see you. and thanks for info. |
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| 15:14.44 | nic | is this the good channel to ask for help if I have problem to compile a package with bitbake? |
| 15:15.27 | koen | nic: yes |
| 15:16.01 | nic | I'm trying to build coreutils-native, but I get python error |
| 15:16.45 | nic | bb.parse.ParseError: coreutils_5.1.3.bb:55: unparsed line: 'pkg_postinst_${PN} () {' |
| 15:17.15 | hrw|work | nic: how old bitbake? |
| 15:17.20 | hrw|work | bitbake --version |
| 15:17.36 | nic | 1.2.1 |
| 15:17.43 | hrw|work | too old |
| 15:17.50 | nic | ok |
| 15:17.59 | nic | is it better to use CVS? |
| 15:18.05 | hrw|work | kergoth: can you do release of atleast 1.3.1 bitbake? |
| 15:18.11 | hrw|work | nic: it is a must.. |
| 15:18.16 | nic | oh, ok |
| 15:18.21 | nic | thanks |
| 15:18.29 | emte | isnt bb in svn? |
| 15:18.41 | Pigi | bbl |
| 15:19.04 | koen | http://handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/bitbake/ |
| 15:19.50 | CosmicPenguin | 0 |
| 15:20.08 | reenoo_ | 1 |
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| 15:21.27 | lucas_ | how many revisions are there approx. of openembedded? I am downloading it for about 30min. |
| 15:21.52 | koen | monotone: 9522 | 34 | 2463 |
| 15:22.29 | lucas_ | koen: oh, I have only 60 |
| 15:22.55 | koen | 'If you run into a problem at this stage, check to make sure you have at least version 0.21 of monotone installed. This takes VERY long when run for the first time. You might want to run a snapshot from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2, bunzip2, rename it to oe.db and follow steps 6 and 7. (Note that this file only contains the org.openembedded.dev branch)' |
| 15:23.04 | koen | http://monotone.vanille.de/ says that as well |
| 15:23.10 | lucasvo | koen: I have 0.22 |
| 15:23.21 | lucasvo | koen: I am still downloading |
| 15:23.32 | lucasvo | koen: but it is at number 70 after half an hour |
| 15:23.50 | koen | I know |
| 15:23.57 | koen | do I have to paste it again? |
| 15:24.15 | lucasvo | ah |
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| 15:25.05 | lucasvo | koen: thanks |
| 15:33.23 | lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/handheld/openembedded/stuff$ monotone --db=/home/lucasvo/handheld/openembedded/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev monotone: error: sqlite error [1]: database disk image is malformed |
| 15:33.51 | lucasvo | why isn't the http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 working? |
| 15:39.44 | koen|food | do the md5 sums match? |
| 15:40.28 | lucasvo | koen|food: is there any md5 sum? |
| 15:42.18 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 15:48.38 | lucasvo | koen|food: thanks it worked when I downloaded a new one |
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| 16:00.30 | lucasvo | in bitbake, there I need to set a BBFILE how does this has to look like? |
| 16:00.33 | lucasvo | I have: |
| 16:00.43 | lucasvo | '/home/lucasvo/handheld/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb' |
| 16:01.08 | lucasvo | or do I need to specify a single file? |
| 16:09.47 | lardman|work | lucasvo: Assuming that's the correct path, that should be fine I think |
| 16:10.18 | lardman|work | BBFILES though |
| 16:10.44 | lardman|work | I have: BBFILES := "${HOME}/dev/mt/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 16:11.02 | lucasvo | lardman|work: lucasvo@lama:~/handheld/openembedded/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/matchbox-keyboard$ ls |
| 16:11.06 | lucasvo | matchbox-keyboard_svn.bb |
| 16:11.10 | lucasvo | lucasvo@lama:~/handheld/openembedded/stuff/build$ bitbake matchbox-keyboard |
| 16:11.10 | lucasvo | NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. |
| 16:11.14 | lucasvo | NOTE: Using cache in '/home/lucasvo/handheld/openembedded/stuff/build/tmp/cache' |
| 16:11.16 | lucasvo | ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/lucasvo/handheld/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb' while parsing /home/lucasvo/handheld/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb |
| 16:11.25 | lucasvo | oh I found my error |
| 16:11.27 | lucasvo | sorry |
| 16:11.55 | lardman|work | np |
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| 16:28.39 | koen | hey dougt |
| 16:29.02 | dougt | koen: hi there!! |
| 16:29.28 | dougt | looking to find someone that might help be get the OE build of minimo going again. I think it is building the wrong stuff. |
| 16:29.31 | lucasvo | koen: in the oe.hanhelds.org guide there is something left out: ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_ARCH, TARGET_OS |
| 16:29.34 | lucasvo | Please set them directly, or choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that sets them. |
| 16:30.03 | koen | lucasvo: choose a MACHINE or DISTRO that sets them |
| 16:30.24 | koen | dougt: the wrong stuff? |
| 16:30.28 | koen | dougt: did the cvs move? |
| 16:30.49 | dougt | koen: I have changed minimo alot since I lasted worked with pb to get the minimo build in OE. |
| 16:31.17 | lucasvo | koen: how should I choose it? |
| 16:34.42 | koen | lucasvo: see local.conf |
| 16:35.29 | lucasvo | koen: so machine: hx4700 |
| 16:35.39 | lucasvo | koen: and distro:familiar? |
| 16:35.59 | koen | dougt: cvs://anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org/cvsroot;module=mozilla , is that correct? |
| 16:37.18 | koen | lucasvo: no, ipaq-pxa270 and familiar-0.8.3 |
| 16:38.52 | lucasvo | koen: hx4700 is arm? |
| 16:40.33 | dougt | koen, yes. |
| 16:40.40 | dougt | but the mozconfig is different |
| 16:41.03 | dougt | and maybe the files it produces |
| 16:41.41 | dougt | http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/minimo/config/mozconfig/linux_x86 |
| 16:45.45 | koen | mickeyl: what do you think of doing something like http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=278b6ab1698ea797323043e058718afb254d58e7&id2=a46171940dfaad029449758d808070a370bbafba for OZ354 in org.oe.dev? |
| 16:45.53 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra4617194... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: |
| 16:45.54 | CIA-7 | conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: add bbfatal message explaining |
| 16:45.54 | CIA-7 | the state of this file and recommend the usage of org.openembedded.oz354fam083 |
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| 16:51.38 | koen | dougt: this if for dancing? |
| 16:52.04 | dougt | yes, it will be the new minimo application. |
| 16:56.06 | koen | dougt: I think it's checking out the wrong thing |
| 16:56.09 | koen | dougt: according to http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvslog.cgi?file=mozilla/minimo/config/mozconfig/linux_x86 |
| 16:57.12 | dougt | yes, the OE stuff is broken. |
| 16:57.19 | dougt | it is building either the wrong thing, or not building at all. |
| 16:57.39 | dougt | i tried messing around with the bitbake/OE build conf files, but couldn't get it to build. |
| 16:59.24 | koen | http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/getfile.py?id=fb8d10ae2a45e2dde95461ffbfc2dd8e1df645e6&path=packages/mozilla/minimo_cvs.bb is the current version |
| 17:00.09 | dougt | yeah. |
| 17:00.14 | dougt | so, there are some problems with that. ;-) |
| 17:01.15 | dougt | i thought i was smart enough to fix them. I will take another go today. |
| 17:01.49 | dougt | one thing that was unnerving was that every time i did a 'bitbake minimo', the source of minimo was never updated. |
| 17:01.58 | dougt | is there a way to force this other then rm'ing the stamps? |
| 17:03.56 | reenoo_ | other than 'bitbake -c clean minimo'? no |
| 17:04.21 | koen | do you have a CVSDATE_minimo somewhere? |
| 17:04.26 | dougt | well, if i had known that. ;-) |
| 17:04.33 | dougt | koen, i shouldn't have. |
| 17:06.04 | JustinP | dougt: if you apply the patch here: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315 you can set CVSDATE_minimo="now" and it should always update |
| 17:07.12 | dougt | yeah; that is pretty cool |
| 17:07.31 | dougt | do you guys have any kind of daily build system? ie. tinderbox? |
| 17:08.05 | JustinP | the system was set up a while ago, but I don't know if anyone's actually running builds through it |
| 17:11.39 | koen | JustinP: that patch doesn't work for minimo |
| 17:11.49 | koen | minimo has a 2 stage checkout |
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| 17:19.20 | lardman|work | night all |
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| 17:22.53 | dougt | if you are in the org.openembedded.dev directory -- how do you revert all changes you made to some subdirectory? |
| 17:23.07 | dougt | is there an equivelent to: rm *, cvs up |
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| 17:24.13 | koen | monotone revert <file> |
| 17:24.33 | dougt | does * work? |
| 17:24.43 | koen | usually it does |
| 17:25.01 | dougt | ls |
| 17:28.36 | lucasvo | it takes hours to cross compile ... :( |
| 17:32.52 | JustinP | koen: ok, then |
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| 17:51.56 | zinosat | Any idea how to find out which lib provides a symbol? |
| 17:54.10 | koen | as a complete programming noob I usually do 'strings <file.so>' |
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| 17:55.51 | zinosat | koen, thanx |
| 17:56.43 | immolo | heya, I've followed the wiki on how to get started with oe but when I bitbake nano I get this error "ERROR: anonymous function: access() argument 1 must be string, not None" any ideas? |
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| 17:58.54 | koen | immolo: are the bitbake and OE trees up to date? |
| 17:59.42 | immolo | I ran an update 2 seconds ok |
| 17:59.46 | immolo | ok = ago |
| 18:00.35 | koen | bitbake from svn? |
| 18:02.05 | immolo | yes |
| 18:02.17 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:02.32 | koen | and python 2.4 is installed in the host system? |
| 18:02.51 | immolo | 2.3 |
| 18:02.58 | immolo | I need 2.4? |
| 18:04.28 | koen | 2.3.5 works over here |
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| 18:04.55 | koen | CosmicPenguin: there is? |
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| 18:05.21 | martin__ | hi. where are the mailing list archives again? |
| 18:05.40 | CosmicPenguin | koen: yeah - I have no idea how old it is though... :) |
| 18:06.16 | koen | that's kergoth's testing ground for tailor |
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| 18:31.04 | dougt | in the do_install section, can i simply issue a 'make <targetname>' command? |
| 18:31.05 | dougt | or does it need to be oe_runmake |
| 18:31.05 | koen | oe_runmake <targetname> would be better |
| 18:31.10 | koen | but make can also be used |
| 18:36.09 | dougt | okay |
| 18:36.25 | dougt | how do you just run the install step of a package. |
| 18:36.32 | dougt | i think I am close to having something working. ;-) |
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| 18:36.49 | koen | hail zecke |
| 18:37.01 | koen | bitbake -b file.bb -c install -f |
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| 18:37.19 | patw | hello! |
| 18:37.19 | zecke | $HOME |
| 18:37.42 | patw | is there a special reason for the three double-quotes in the xserver-xorg bb files on the line with FILES_${PN} += ? |
| 18:39.53 | patw | reason I ask is because it might be a typo. but maybe not, because when I tried to build it without it, it failed :) |
| 18:41.58 | immolo | ok after upgrading to python 2.4 it segfaults |
| 18:43.16 | immolo | bitbake that is |
| 18:44.05 | zecke | immolo: I doubt that pure python code will ever SEGFAULT |
| 18:44.08 | zecke | I strongly doubt it |
| 18:44.13 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 18:44.39 | immolo | laptop build # bitbake nano |
| 18:44.39 | immolo | Segmentation fault |
| 18:46.35 | patw | oh, and I mean the one directly in front of ${libdir}/modules/*/*.o, as you can see here: FILES_${PN} += "${libdir}/modules/*.o "${libdir}/modules/*/*.o ${libdir}/X11/Options ${libdir}/X11/getconfig ${libdir}/X11/etc ${libdir}/modules" |
| 18:47.38 | zecke | immolo: well, bitbake is not segfaulting - no more no less |
| 18:47.44 | zecke | immolo: do you use gentoo? |
| 18:48.14 | immolo | yes |
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| 18:48.49 | zecke | well probably recompile your python without -fbroken |
| 18:49.18 | zecke | immolo: does calling python? |
| 18:49.24 | pb_ | zecke: good evening |
| 18:49.36 | immolo | nope python runs fine |
| 18:49.39 | immolo | as does emerge |
| 18:50.19 | zecke | immolo: if bitbake segfaults... well then your python is screwed |
| 18:50.39 | zecke | immolo: and as you use gentoo it is even likely |
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| 18:52.03 | immolo | never had a problem with python till now |
| 18:52.32 | zecke | well the amount of non python code in bitbake is 0,00000000000 |
| 18:52.47 | zecke | immolo: if python /usr/bin/python crashes well |
| 18:52.53 | zecke | immolo: the python crashed? right? |
| 18:53.03 | immolo | no it ran as normal |
| 18:53.07 | zecke | immolo: but that conflicts with the argument python runs fine? |
| 18:53.23 | dougt | i am getting this error after a change to my bb file: |
| 18:53.27 | zecke | immolo: head /usr/bin/bitbake | grep python? |
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| 18:53.33 | dougt | | /home/dougt/oe/oetmp/work/minimo-0.0cvs20050929-r8/temp/run.do_fetch.550: line 519: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| 18:53.36 | dougt | any ideas? |
| 18:53.43 | zecke | dougt: df -m says what? |
| 18:53.57 | immolo | #!/usr/bin/python |
| 18:54.23 | dougt | zecke: more then I need. |
| 18:54.25 | zecke | immolo: so now again, what segfaults? python or bitbake? |
| 18:54.36 | zecke | dougt: pastebin the file |
| 18:54.40 | zecke | please |
| 18:55.02 | immolo | zecke- python loads and do some stuff if I run python from console |
| 18:55.29 | zecke | immolo: well bitbake does stuff in python and python segfaults? |
| 18:55.49 | zecke | immolo: anyway let us stop here. your python is either miscompiled, or has another bug |
| 18:56.13 | immolo | yeah also it only does it when you add a package name |
| 18:56.45 | zecke | maybe it is a danling pointer? oh well we do not use any pointers |
| 18:57.03 | dougt | zecke: how? |
| 18:57.17 | zecke | ibot: pastebin |
| 18:57.18 | ibot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 18:57.33 | dougt | sweet |
| 18:57.57 | zecke | immolo: what about using gdb? or are all your binaries and libs stripped? |
| 18:57.58 | pb_ | hi dougt |
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| 18:58.17 | zecke | dougt: I wonder why we do do_fetch in shell |
| 18:58.52 | zecke | dougt: which version of minimo is that? |
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| 18:59.55 | koen | zecke: minimo has a 2 stage fetch |
| 19:00.51 | dougt | http://www.meer.net/~dougt/run.do_fetch.6549 |
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| 19:01.45 | pb_ | zecke: the mozilla fetcher is complicated. It checks out a special makefile from cvs, then uses that makefile to check out everything else. |
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| 19:02.25 | dougt | hi pb_! |
| 19:02.29 | dougt | getting some help, you see. ;-) |
| 19:03.08 | pb_ | very good! |
| 19:03.09 | pb_ | :-) |
| 19:03.17 | zecke | I won't comment... the do_fetch method looks good |
| 19:05.34 | dougt | zecke: you see no problems with that file? |
| 19:05.48 | zecke | dougt: not on first sight |
| 19:06.19 | dougt | the odd thing is that I am doing this: |
| 19:06.21 | dougt | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.29 | dougt | i don't even expect a fetch to happen. |
| 19:08.06 | zecke | dougt: well, it is 'okay' it tries to fetch |
| 19:08.28 | zecke | dougt: I'm seing an error as well when invoking the script |
| 19:08.52 | pb_ | dougt: your do_install() is busted |
| 19:08.57 | zecke | dougt: I'm sorry, I have to pass the black pit a long |
| 19:09.04 | pb_ | do_install() { |
| 19:09.04 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.10 | pb_ | the brackets in that second line don't match |
| 19:09.39 | zecke | awesome catch (now vims syntax highlighting shows that as well |
| 19:10.21 | dougt | dumb terminal. |
| 19:10.59 | dougt | moving on now.. ;-) |
| 19:12.36 | dougt | how does scratchbox relate to OE/bitbake? |
| 19:13.35 | koen | different goals |
| 19:14.30 | dougt | ic. |
| 19:14.33 | koen | scratchbox is more a 'emulator' and OE is more like a builder |
| 19:14.44 | koen | we'd like to have scratchbox support in OE |
| 19:14.49 | dougt | yeah. |
| 19:14.50 | koen | for nasty packages |
| 19:14.52 | dougt | that would be cool. |
| 19:15.25 | dougt | so, i have some changes for the OE minimo build that I would like to have someone review. |
| 19:15.37 | zecke | dougt: bugs.openembedded.org |
| 19:15.42 | dougt | nods. |
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| 19:23.12 | dougt | is there any preferred diff output? |
| 19:23.30 | zecke | dougt: unified |
| 19:25.27 | koen | diff -Nurd |
| 19:26.35 | dougt | heh |
| 19:26.42 | dougt | are you serious? |
| 19:27.04 | koen | yes |
| 19:27.17 | koen | it's easy to remember :) |
| 19:27.29 | dougt | i didn't know about the r or d option. |
| 19:27.52 | dougt | does r do anything useful, or is just a recursive decent into the directories (which is default, right) |
| 19:28.07 | koen | recursive iirc |
| 19:28.23 | dougt | i usually diff -u10 |
| 19:28.42 | dougt | pb_: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=283&action=edit |
| 19:28.46 | koen | that gives more context? |
| 19:29.03 | dougt | yes. |
| 19:29.09 | zecke | dougt: normally when does use quilt refresh ;) |
| 19:29.10 | dougt | which is probably why i don't use the d option. |
| 19:29.50 | dougt | does anyone have some cycles to try building minimo this afternoon with that patch? |
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| 19:30.57 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: pong |
| 19:32.19 | dougt | that really shut everyone up! |
| 19:32.23 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: did you update the bitbake patch? |
| 19:32.50 | zecke | dougt: It takes some hours until X is compiled but I can build it (on foreign resources) |
| 19:33.45 | dougt | okay. |
| 19:34.27 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: not yet, but I will here shortly |
| 19:34.29 | dougt | so, in practice what does a developer do when doing builds for gpe? do they pull and build everything once in a while, and just continue working in their little silo? |
| 19:34.41 | dougt | or do people rebuild the world alot? |
| 19:34.51 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: I've been bouncing around between things all week |
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| 19:37.20 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: I'm just checking, I have the strong tendency to forget stuff |
| 19:37.31 | koen | dougt: I usually build gpe-image once a day |
| 19:37.44 | koen | dougt: and clean out tmp about once a day too |
| 19:37.53 | koen | but I've a fast buildbox available |
| 19:38.35 | raduga | fast = pxa270? |
| 19:39.06 | zecke | raduga: eight dual ARM core |
| 19:39.42 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: me t oo |
| 19:39.53 | dougt | koen: for mozilla minimo, what should i do? should I build only the minimo package, or should I rebuild the world? |
| 19:40.05 | koen | bitbake minimo should be enough |
| 19:40.18 | dougt | right. |
| 19:40.21 | koen | raduga: I also build on a 266MHz ipx420 |
| 19:40.29 | dougt | so, before that what do i need to rm -rf? |
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| 20:25.49 | spinpress | I am having trouble getting started with the build for OE, after I login an to 'cvs -z3 -d :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs co -ko -roe-vendor oe' i get an error. |
| 20:25.55 | spinpress | could someone please assist me |
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| 20:27.48 | koen | que? |
| 20:27.53 | koen | why do you use cvs? |
| 20:28.09 | koen | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted doesn't mention cvs |
| 20:28.26 | spinpress | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/OpenEmbeddedRootfs |
| 20:28.43 | spinpress | walkthrough for the hp22xx |
| 20:29.34 | koen | 'you should read OE's Getting Started guide, which this page is based on.' |
| 20:30.18 | spinpress | Forbidden |
| 20:30.19 | spinpress | You don't have permission to access /oe_wiki/index.php/GettingStarted on this server. |
| 20:30.55 | spinpress | i keep getting that ^^ when i try |
| 20:32.44 | koen | try http://openembedded.org |
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| 20:41.46 | mreimer_ | what generates the /etc/modutils files? does the kernel module builder do that? |
| 20:42.40 | koen | related to that: the hh2 in the makefile mismatches the hh3 in the .bb name |
| 20:42.51 | koen | which breaks dependencie generation for kernel-modules |
| 20:43.03 | koen | ph5 added a patch for that |
| 20:43.17 | mreimer_ | so the Makefile should change, huh? |
| 20:43.24 | koen | yes |
| 20:43.39 | koen | as he described in his mail to kernel-discuss |
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| 20:50.20 | mreimer_ | there, I updated the Makefile and slid the K2-6-12-hh3 tag |
| 20:50.30 | koen | cool |
| 20:50.33 | koen | mucho gracias |
| 20:50.48 | mreimer_ | de nada. let me know if the build still fails |
| 20:51.36 | koen | I'll bet the patch will fail now ;) |
| 20:51.44 | koen | but that's a small fix |
| 20:52.22 | koen | does the hh3 tag contain your recent fixes too? |
| 20:54.00 | mreimer_ | koen: no, but I should slide those tags too. the fun is trying to remember all the files I've changed since then |
| 20:54.21 | koen | cia to the rescue! |
| 20:54.40 | mreimer_ | :wq |
| 20:54.51 | mreimer_ | oops, vi command in the wrong window |
| 20:54.53 | koen | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/handhelds.org/ |
| 20:55.07 | mreimer_ | koen, you're nearly omniscient |
| 20:55.52 | koen | no, I have a lot of bookmarks in my browser :) |
| 20:55.59 | mreimer_ | :-) |
| 20:56.02 | koen | safari rss keeps me informed |
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| 22:13.59 | spinpress | koen: i am having trouble again with the install. |
| 22:15.11 | spinpress | i am trying to build the bitbake documentaion, and it isnt working... it says 'sudo: ./setup.py: command not found |
| 22:15.12 | spinpress | ' |
| 22:15.48 | koen | there's no need to run setup.py |
| 22:15.53 | spinpress | okay |
| 22:15.58 | koen | you can use bitbake straight from that dir |
| 22:15.58 | spinpress | just skip that step? |
| 22:16.03 | koen | yes |
| 22:16.08 | spinpress | okay |
| 22:16.28 | spinpress | thanks |
| 22:18.37 | spinpress | koen: what does this mean... warning: caught bad_decode exception decoding input from peer monotone.vanille.de: 'protocol version mismatch: wanted '4' got '5'' |
| 22:19.13 | spinpress | trying to puul oe from the server |
| 22:22.03 | koen | you have a too old monotone |
| 22:22.19 | spinpress | hrm... |
| 22:22.29 | spinpress | okay |
| 22:22.31 | spinpress | thnaks |
| 22:23.02 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re86504cf... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: update gpe-icons to 0.25 |
| 22:25.07 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2c4fbb90... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: update gpe-icons to 0.25 |
| 22:25.11 | CIA-7 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6bcb9eed... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: disapproval of revision 2c4fbb9056aeb20f986c62451a473a603c76e33f |
| 22:27.11 | spinpress | how do i upgrade monotone? |
| 22:27.42 | koen | by using your distro's package manager? |
| 22:27.43 | LoDown | spinpress, compile and install (or just install) the newest version... |
| 22:28.00 | koen | or download the static version from the monotone site |
| 22:28.04 | spinpress | i am using gentoo.. and the emerge only goes to 0.19 |
| 22:28.14 | LoDown | spinpress, i can help you with that |
| 22:28.18 | LoDown | i had the same problem... |
| 22:28.21 | spinpress | thank you |
| 22:28.27 | spinpress | its all confusing to me |
| 22:28.35 | LoDown | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge monotone |
| 22:28.45 | koen | what's confusing? |
| 22:28.49 | LoDown | the keywords will install the newer (but not deemed 'stable' version) |
| 22:28.57 | spinpress | i see |
| 22:28.58 | koen | GettingStarted states that you need 0.21 or higher |
| 22:29.43 | LoDown | i'm assuming you are using an x86 computer? |
| 22:29.43 | spinpress | yes |
| 22:29.43 | LoDown | and is should install 0.22 or 0.24...i can't remember now.. |
| 22:29.43 | erkki_ | spinpress, LoDown, better to use /etc/portage/packages.keywords |
| 22:29.47 | spinpress | its going now |
| 22:29.49 | koen | 0.22 is the latest |
| 22:29.57 | LoDown | then 0.22 it will install |
| 22:30.11 | erkki_ | * package.keywords |
| 22:30.13 | spinpress | i am new at gentoo.. <---- former mandrake.. iva (whatever it is now) user |
| 22:30.15 | LoDown | erkki_, you are correct, but that was a more difficult explanation :-D |
| 22:30.22 | erkki_ | LoDown, ok:p |
| 22:30.40 | LoDown | koen doesn't like gentoo :-D |
| 22:30.56 | LoDown | i don't blame him...far too many 'ricers' and loudmouths use it |
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| 22:31.10 | erkki_ | yeah |
| 22:32.02 | spinpress | lol.. thanks guys |
| 22:32.04 | LoDown | but hey...portage is nice |
| 22:32.07 | LoDown | no prob man |
| 22:32.43 | spinpress | i do have to say one thing... its a bitch installing it |
| 22:33.01 | spinpress | 100 page walkthrough and 3 days later... its just hell |
| 22:33.01 | koen | LoDown: bitbake/OE was a fork of portage |
| 22:33.01 | LoDown | yep |
| 22:33.17 | LoDown | i shoulda known...i noticed the similarities... |
| 22:33.20 | LoDown | haha |
| 22:33.27 | erkki_ | haha |
| 22:33.40 | LoDown | spinpress, it was long...i just installed kubuntu on my gf's computer...SOO much easier |
| 22:33.40 | erkki_ | that's why bitbake is good:p |
| 22:33.57 | LoDown | erkki_, :-D |
| 22:34.01 | spinpress | yeah.. i have heard of this.. do they use the portage system too? |
| 22:34.03 | koen | erkki_: yeah since every trace of gentoo code has been eradicated :) |
| 22:34.13 | kergoth | all of bitbake's flaws stem from the portage code we started with |
| 22:34.14 | erkki_ | koen :D |
| 22:34.18 | LoDown | no...they use the debian system...i don't rmember what it is called |
| 22:34.27 | koen | dpkg + apt |
| 22:34.32 | LoDown | there we go... |
| 22:34.40 | erkki_ | haha |
| 22:34.48 | LoDown | haha |
| 22:35.05 | spinpress | soo... what is the success rate of installing GPE on an hp22xx palm? |
| 22:35.15 | kergoth | thats off topic. |
| 22:35.19 | kergoth | ask in #handhelds.org or #gpe |
| 22:35.25 | spinpress | sry :( |
| 22:35.30 | kergoth | read the topic of this channel |
| 22:35.40 | LoDown | whereas talking about the evils of gentoo is on topic :-P |
| 22:35.46 | erkki_ | anyhow, I was actually gonna seek some help with oe... I asked about some build problems last week, still have them... could someone post me a working local.conf |
| 22:36.10 | spinpress | i see.. sry for the topic change |
| 22:36.15 | LoDown | mine looks almost eactly like the local.conf.example |
| 22:36.21 | kergoth | LoDown: i dont have an issue with off topic discussions here in general. this is a developer lounge, after all. i have a problem with discussing topics that belong in other channels. |
| 22:36.26 | LoDown | just changed stuff to point to the right directory |
| 22:36.46 | LoDown | kergoth, i gotcha...i was just pickin on ya ;) |
| 22:37.05 | spinpress | whoa.. if i may.. you were actually pickin on my!! |
| 22:37.14 | spinpress | **me |
| 22:37.19 | LoDown | i must say...bitbake/OE is SO much nicer then compiling an image manually... |
| 22:37.24 | CosmicPenguin | mickeyl: you still awake? |
| 22:37.35 | LoDown | i played around with that once...it sucked... |
| 22:38.05 | spinpress | So here is an on topic question.. whats the success rate of getting OE working with Gentoo? |
| 22:38.15 | LoDown | i've gotten it to work |
| 22:38.24 | LoDown | my main box is gentoo.. |
| 22:38.32 | LoDown | emerge bitbake emerge monotone... |
| 22:38.43 | LoDown | set up the local.conf...follow the getting started wiki page... |
| 22:38.45 | erkki_ | spinpress: I have OE basically working, just can't seem to build images, but not sure where's the problem there, quite sure not something distro specific |
| 22:39.06 | erkki_ | yeah, 2 emerges and that's all |
| 22:39.06 | LoDown | erkki_, what is happening when you try to build? |
| 22:39.06 | spinpress | ohh |
| 22:39.19 | LoDown | i can build images... |
| 22:39.24 | spinpress | its configuring for image building thats a bitch? |
| 22:39.32 | erkki_ | LoDown: I'll post you the messages, basically failed dependencies, that are actually built |
| 22:39.48 | LoDown | erkki_, strange... |
| 22:40.12 | erkki_ | erkki.itech.ee/loox/bootstrap_log |
| 22:40.31 | erkki_ | that's with a custom machine conf, but the same happens with other machines |
| 22:40.34 | LoDown | ok |
| 22:40.45 | erkki_ | could be something specific to my setup or whatever |
| 22:41.33 | LoDown | erkki_, in your local.conf, what do you have the distro set to? |
| 22:41.48 | LoDown | familiar, or familiar-0.8.3? |
| 22:41.55 | erkki_ | the last one |
| 22:41.59 | erkki_ | .. with the version |
| 22:42.03 | LoDown | ok...good |
| 22:42.42 | erkki_ | I have tried familiar with my custom machine and h3900, same errors (the same type, not the same specifically).. maybe I should try other distroas |
| 22:42.46 | erkki_ | distros* |
| 22:43.09 | LoDown | well...what is your machine? |
| 22:43.35 | LoDown | and have you done a monotone pull/update and tried again? |
| 22:43.44 | erkki_ | I'm trying to build a custom image for fujitsu-siemens loox, basically the same as h3900 and h4xx.. |
| 22:43.46 | LoDown | because maybe some problems were fixed? |
| 22:43.59 | erkki_ | yep, just did a fresh start from scratch today |
| 22:44.31 | erkki_ | I'm starting to think it's some stupid mistake done somewhere in the process of installing oe |
| 22:44.43 | erkki_ | usually the strangest problems are the stupidest ones:p |
| 22:44.56 | LoDown | this might be part of the problem...ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 22:45.05 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 22:45.14 | CosmicPenguin | you may safely ignore that |
| 22:45.18 | LoDown | aight... |
| 22:45.19 | LoDown | :-D |
| 22:45.22 | erkki_ | yeah, some told on the channel last week, that that's ignorable |
| 22:45.24 | LoDown | jk then |
| 22:45.26 | erkki_ | some one* |
| 22:45.34 | LoDown | what about this: /home/erkki/oe/build/tmp/rootfs//usr/lib/ipkg/lists/oe |
| 22:45.51 | LoDown | that path looks kinda screwy...with the double slash...// |
| 22:46.07 | erkki_ | nope, the file is there |
| 22:46.25 | erkki_ | the double slash wouldn't change anything |
| 22:46.40 | LoDown | ok |
| 22:46.56 | erkki_ | the slash is extraneous, but not something critical |
| 22:48.09 | LoDown | eh..sry then...i'm not too up on these things...especially this part...if it was a compile error I might be able to help... |
| 22:48.30 | LoDown | you are trying to build a 2.6 kernel? |
| 22:48.43 | erkki_ | yes |
| 22:48.48 | LoDown | the standard kernel is still 2.4 i believe.. |
| 22:48.55 | LoDown | have to tried to build a standard one? |
| 22:49.40 | erkki_ | hmm, but the build for h3900 failed also, shouldn't the machine conf override any kernel versions specified in local conf? |
| 22:50.47 | LoDown | KERNEL_VERSION is not the way that the kernel version for h3900 is set, IIRC |
| 22:50.55 | erkki_ | ok |
| 22:51.34 | LoDown | but...i would suggest commenting out KERNEL_VERSION in your local.conf, setting machine as h3900...and seeing if an image compiles... |
| 22:51.55 | LoDown | because i have been able to get a 2.4 image compiled...and a 2.6 (but it didnt boot right) |
| 22:51.59 | erkki_ | ok, I'll try that |
| 22:52.25 | erkki_ | I noticed some other things that I changed in local.conf, I'll try the default one with maybe machine and distro changed |
| 22:52.53 | LoDown | let me know how that goes :-D |
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| 22:55.09 | gerwinin | lo |
| 23:02.06 | erkki_ | LoDown: and I did find a stupid mistake:p.. I had forgot to change the bbpath when trying to build for h3900, so the old conf was used.. so quite possibly h3900 builds fine and the other build needs it's config tweaked |
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