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| 10:04.58 | zecke | moin |
| 10:13.56 | pb_ | hail zecke |
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| 10:40.39 | uv1 | Morning all! |
| 10:40.45 | uv1 | Anyone here ? |
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| 11:14.13 | zecke | hi |
| 11:27.58 | zecke | do13[offline]: ping |
| 11:35.15 | zecke | do13[offline]: any idea why when applying tosa-machine-base-r9.patch |
| 11:35.24 | zecke | do13[offline]: the last 6 lines do not get applied? |
| 11:50.07 | zecke | ibot: test |
| 11:50.09 | ibot | Test Passed! |
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| 12:46.56 | mickeyl | morning |
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| 13:05.08 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd9e0576b... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add python-pyflakes, a source code checker similar to pychecker |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3eb5b8ba... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-4 | add python-pyvisa, a package that enables you to control all kinds of measurement equipment through various buses (GPIB, |
| 13:05.13 | CIA-4 | RS232, USB) with Python programs. |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r09997038... 10/packages/tcltk/ (tcl_8.4.11.bb tk_8.4.11.bb): tcl/tk: install header files into $STAGING_DIR |
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| 15:24.58 | lardman | mickeyl: ping |
| 15:30.11 | mickeyl | pöng |
| 15:31.33 | lardman | I was just going to clear up the endian issues I was asking you about (lest you think I am mad) |
| 15:33.01 | lardman | Although we run in little-endian mode, the FPA soft-float implementation always stores its numbers in big-endian format - this is why R requires ac_cv_bigendian=true as a configure argument, and why I've been pulling my hair out trying to work out what's wrong in Octave |
| 15:33.56 | mickeyl | interesting |
| 15:34.00 | lardman | Though I've a feeling that the endianness is not split between writing to arrays/disk & handling the fp numbers, so both will probably be broken |
| 15:34.24 | lardman | It says this in include/bits/endian.h |
| 15:34.25 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9227cfee... 10/packages/tcltk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): tcl/tk: add SONAME patches, ship .so in $PN, not $PN-dev |
| 15:35.05 | mickeyl | i guess we should try to ask the R folks about that |
| 15:35.40 | lardman | I'll get onto it eventually, I've got to get it packaging first (after I finish my PhD too) |
| 15:48.56 | pb_ | heh, you should just configure openzaurus to use a sensible byteorder. |
| 15:50.02 | lardman | pb_: The only way to do that would be to switch to the vfp floating point system whose byte order matches the processor's |
| 15:50.21 | pb_ | indeed, and that is precisely what you should do |
| 15:50.25 | lardman | Or run the PXA in bigendian mode I suppose |
| 15:51.16 | lardman | I had been meaning to ask why we use FPA - the pdaXrom lot use VFP. Anyone know why (other than FPA is the default for soft-float)? |
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| 15:54.41 | mickeyl | Hmm, where are the toolchain experts? I don't even know the difference. If there is a benefit in changing endianness or floating point processing style, i'm all ears. |
| 15:55.08 | lardman | I think that VFP is faster, and can perform array operations, but my understanding is pretty foggy too |
| 15:55.29 | lardman | the array op thing must be on actual hardware though |
| 15:56.25 | pb_ | The easy answer is that there is never any good reason to use FPA in a soft-float system, except for backwards compatibility with legacy code. |
| 15:57.07 | lardman | I just read something which says that vfp won't work on arm4, though if there's no physical fp unit it should still be possible to emulate the vfp handling in code |
| 15:57.58 | AvengerMoJo | hi :) |
| 15:58.57 | lardman | pb_: I assume that vfp is the actual instruction set used by arm5 physical fp units? and fpa is the equiv for arm4 units? |
| 16:02.17 | pb_ | kind of, yeah. It isn't actually anything to do with armv4 or armv5; the floating point instruction set is orthogonal to the processor architecture. |
| 16:02.53 | lardman | there seem to be a lot of different options - presumably because you can combine lots of different fp units? (http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/gnu-assembler/arm-dependent.html) |
| 16:03.10 | lardman | To be exact: softfpa, fpe, fpe2, fpe3, fpa, fpa10, fpa11, arm7500fe, softvfp, softvfp+vfp, vfp, vfp10, vfp10-r0, vfp9, vfpxd, arm1020t, arm1020e, arm1136jf-s and maverick |
| 16:03.13 | pb_ | It's true that FPA is an old, mostly obsolete standard, and VFP is the one that is included in modern systems. |
| 16:03.55 | CIA-4 | 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r46f618fc... 10/packages/avahi/ (avahi-0.5/alignment-fix.patch avahi_0.5.bb): avahi: memory alignment fix |
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| 16:06.19 | lardman | How does one go about voting to change the fp format in OpenZaurus then? |
| 16:07.12 | pb_ | I think one types "mickeyl: please change the fp format to <format of your choice>" |
| 16:07.22 | lardman | I like your thinking |
| 16:07.44 | lardman | mickeyl: please change the fp format to softvfp, please |
| 16:07.47 | lardman | ;) |
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| 16:18.45 | mickeyl | uhm |
| 16:19.04 | koen|train | mickeyl: join the club! |
| 16:20.49 | mickeyl | even if I would know where to tweak that, I wouldn't dare to do it. a) I think this involves tweaking toolchain packages doesn't it? b) we're near 3.5.4 |
| 16:21.40 | mickeyl | hi koen |
| 16:21.54 | lardman | I think the tweak may be to remove the 'soft' in the conf file (reading gcc-3.4.0-arm-softfloat.patch) |
| 16:22.22 | lardman | though I agree that this may be a bit of a big change just before release just to satisfy me |
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| 16:22.32 | mickeyl | hmm interesting. my understanding was, that reenables hard float |
| 16:22.39 | mickeyl | which is heaps slower than soft float |
| 16:22.44 | mickeyl | at least i know that. |
| 16:22.47 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:23.00 | lardman | From a first read, it looks like softvfp should be the default with the arm toolchain |
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| 16:24.53 | mickeyl | if that's true, then familiar has been using soft-float for the last three releases.... which i have a hard time to believe :) |
| 16:25.16 | lardman | Yes, it would appear that passing -soft-float enables softfpa, -hard-float enables a real fp unit and nothing enables softvfp |
| 16:25.35 | alan|home | hi ! |
| 16:26.06 | lardman | mickeyl: It'd dependent on the version of the gcc-3.4.0-arm-softfloat patch though |
| 16:26.14 | lardman | s/It'd/It's |
| 16:26.15 | koen|train | is vfp the thing an arm9 core has? |
| 16:26.52 | lardman | koen|train: The docs I can see are none to clear about any of it |
| 16:27.13 | lardman | s/to/too - I should stop typing I think |
| 16:27.21 | koen|train | doesn't eabi solve all this? |
| 16:27.37 | lardman | I don;t evn know what it is.... off to google |
| 16:27.57 | alan|home | should sd cards work with a 2.6.14-rc1-r2 kernel ? |
| 16:28.16 | lardman | alan|home: Should do |
| 16:28.20 | alan|home | then i did something wrong with my config... |
| 16:28.24 | alan|home | thanks. |
| 16:28.38 | lardman | alan|home: Try ejecting it, then putting it back in & wait for a few seconds |
| 16:29.27 | mickeyl | lets just postpone this discussion until we a) have released OZ 3.5.4 and Fam 0.8.3 and b) we are a little more educated about the options. |
| 16:29.34 | alan|home | lardman: the probleme is not in accessing the files in the sd card, it's when i try suspending... |
| 16:30.07 | lardman | mickeyl: I'm going to set bitbake baking after removing the soft option and I'll see what I get |
| 16:30.19 | lardman | alan|home: What happens? |
| 16:30.26 | mickeyl | lardman: k |
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| 16:31.39 | alan|home | lardman: it just won't work.... hey... it does now !!! |
| 16:32.26 | alan|home | what the hell did happen ? i didn't do anything... and it wouldn't work yesterday even after 3 reboots... |
| 16:32.47 | koen|train | ley lines |
| 16:32.54 | koen|train | that, or evil gnomes |
| 16:32.56 | lardman | :D |
| 16:33.24 | uv1 | Good evening! |
| 16:33.36 | alan|home | koen|train: : ^^ |
| 16:34.33 | lardman | mickeyl: Do I still require the TARGET_FPU var? What happens if it hasn't been found, will there be an error in the parsing, or will is just be assumed to be empty? |
| 16:34.53 | koen|train | empty |
| 16:35.31 | lardman | cool |
| 16:35.33 | koen|train | mickeyl: did you get my note on the distro.confs and using bberror? |
| 16:35.57 | uv1 | I have problems to build gcc-4.0.0 (x86). MACHINE=x86, PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc="4.0.0".bitbake builds gcc-3.4.4-initial-cross ! Any help appreciated. |
| 16:36.03 | mickeyl | koen|away: i read it. i will implement something like that shortly |
| 16:36.29 | mickeyl | i won't introduce another variable though. i will just check DISTRO_VERSION |
| 16:37.15 | mickeyl | I'm reluctant to add any more variables. After our next set of releases I'm going to be on a eliminate and unify variables and methods crusade |
| 16:37.59 | koen|train | mickeyl: I'd like to have an easy way to build unversioned distros without touching $distro-$version.conf |
| 16:38.10 | koen|train | to check the latest and greatest in OE |
| 16:38.13 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 16:38.35 | koen|train | which was how it was intended |
| 16:38.35 | mickeyl | how about the easy way is a) removing the check from the unversioned file or b) setting DISTRO_VERSION to a dummy variable. |
| 16:38.54 | mickeyl | i just don't like that CHECK thing |
| 16:39.10 | koen|train | b) is cleaner, but harder to implement I guess |
| 16:39.54 | koen|train | that was just an example |
| 16:40.13 | mickeyl | something like DUMMY := "${bb.data.getVar("DISTRO_VERSION",d,1) or bb.fatal('Remove this line or set DISTRO_VERSION if you really want to build an unversioned distro')}" |
| 16:41.11 | koen|train | mickeyl: when do we branch off? After RP has beaten the c7x0 kernel into shape? |
| 16:41.48 | mickeyl | koen: let's do it on wednesday |
| 16:41.59 | koen|train | mickeyl: I also think we need to come up with guidelines on where to keep patches |
| 16:42.10 | mickeyl | sorry, dinner time _now_ |
| 16:42.11 | mickeyl | :) |
| 16:42.18 | koen|train | keeping patches on random webservers has broken to many times IMO |
| 16:42.33 | koen|train | ~bon appetit |
| 16:42.34 | ibot | somebody said bon appetit was smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito |
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| 16:50.11 | Bernardo | hy guys |
| 16:51.14 | Bernardo | benoit: you're here? |
| 16:51.44 | benoit | Bernardo: yep! |
| 16:52.10 | Bernardo | benoit: your oe machine, is it running sourcemage? |
| 16:52.28 | benoit | nope. |
| 16:52.42 | benoit | it's running debian/testing |
| 16:52.48 | benoit | but i'm running out of space ... |
| 16:52.59 | benoit | i'm trying to use evms to make a large partition at the moment |
| 16:53.33 | Bernardo | ok... I am having problems building on my amd64 with smgl, pcre tries to link with the system's libgcc |
| 16:53.44 | Bernardo | I'm wondering if it is smgl related |
| 16:53.50 | Bernardo | http://pastebin.ca/23865 |
| 16:54.04 | Bernardo | lardman: that goes fast on a sata disk... |
| 16:54.28 | Bernardo | too bad it also fails fast |
| 16:54.35 | lardman | Bernardo: Ah, that's mean buying a computer though rather than 'inheriting one' :) |
| 16:55.03 | lardman | yay! finished |
| 16:55.16 | benoit | Bernardo: cannot access your url :-( |
| 16:56.09 | lardman | Right, I'm setting a bitbake gpe-image running, hopefully it'll build with softvfp, we'll see tomorrow (if I'm lucky) when it's finished building |
| 16:56.14 | lardman | bye all |
| 16:56.19 | Bernardo | lardman: bye |
| 16:56.37 | Bernardo | benoit: I was there just now |
| 16:58.34 | Bernardo | what I am seing here is that when building pcre, -L/usr/lib is passed as a argument |
| 16:59.58 | Bernardo | and then cross-libtool tries to link with /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so and fails |
| 17:01.29 | Bernardo | I'll try the usual - dispel pcre, bitbakte pcre, and then cast pcre after bitbake finishes... usually works |
| 17:02.35 | benoit | "/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized" |
| 17:02.45 | benoit | Bernardo: that is your problem i think. ok you found it :-) |
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| 17:06.58 | Bernardo | benoit: didn't work... and I do have a tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libgcc_s.so |
| 17:07.24 | benoit | what is this file ? do a file on it to know. is it 32 or 64 bits? |
| 17:07.28 | Bernardo | jbs |
| 17:07.33 | benoit | are you running pure 64 bits or multilib ? |
| 17:07.41 | Bernardo | opps, wrong window |
| 17:08.16 | Bernardo | I'm running pure 64, and this file should be arm (the one in tmp/cross), the one in /usr/lib should be x86_64 |
| 17:08.43 | benoit | and what are they really? |
| 17:09.39 | Bernardo | exactly that... well, libgcc_s.so.1 is the file, libgcc_s.so is a link |
| 17:09.46 | Bernardo | but they are in the correct places |
| 17:10.35 | Bernardo | the strange thing is that -L/usr/lib is passed to libtool, instead of tmp/cross/amr-linux/lib |
| 17:11.58 | Bernardo | well, I'll recheck later...have to go |
| 17:24.03 | uv1 | Anyone here, who had success building a gcc 4.0.0 for x86 machine ? |
| 17:24.22 | uv1 | oops ;-) |
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| 17:24.41 | reenoo_ | re |
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| 17:35.39 | uv1 | Ping ? |
| 17:37.19 | uv1 | Last question. Will BUILD_ARCH != TARGET_ARCH build a gcc-cross ? |
| 17:39.54 | benoit | uv1: i think so ... except i don't know what is BUILD_ARCH and TARGET_ARCH exactly |
| 17:40.28 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd36b86d3... 10/conf/distro/ (5 files): distro configurations: revert unversioned distro configurations back to standard names and add a warning if they're chosen |
| 17:41.43 | koen|away | mickey|dinner: you just broke familiar |
| 17:42.00 | mickey|dinner | in how far? |
| 17:42.10 | mickeyl | ah right |
| 17:42.13 | mickeyl | don't tell m |
| 17:42.14 | mickeyl | e |
| 17:42.14 | koen | familiar-0.8.3.conf: include.... |
| 17:42.16 | mickeyl | sure |
| 17:42.28 | koen | and probably oz too ;) |
| 17:42.32 | mickeyl | heh right |
| 17:42.34 | mickeyl | :D |
| 17:43.19 | koen | but thanks for looking into the problem and coming up with a solution that doesn't sacrifice functionality |
| 17:43.46 | koen | even if justinp claims to know the intended behaviour |
| 17:43.51 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 17:45.38 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r01ec2955... 10/conf/distro/ (familiar-0.8.3.conf openzaurus-3.5.4.conf): distro configurations: catch up versioned distro configurations with last change |
| 17:46.37 | uv1 | benoit: It seems. Until I have choosen TARGET_ARCH == BUILD_ARCH it tries to build gcc-4.0.0 instead of gcc-3.4.4-cross. I have to find out, why that happens, because I need a gcc-4.0.0-586. |
| 17:46.57 | uv1 | Any idea, why gcc-4.0.0 is configure to build in fortran ? |
| 17:47.16 | mickeyl | because people were complaining we didn't enable it in previous versions |
| 17:48.46 | uv1 | mickeyl: So what. Just removed tmp and rebuild gcc. Can you tell me, how to configure for 586 gcc on 686 machine ? |
| 17:49.30 | mickeyl | sorry, i have no idea about toolchains |
| 17:49.43 | mickeyl | gb2, kergoth, and pb_ are the toolchain experts iirc |
| 17:50.08 | uv1 | mickeyl: Thanks, If I have no success, I will write a mail to the list. |
| 17:50.28 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 17:52.05 | koen | psst, mickeyl |
| 17:52.17 | koen | I spot a small error |
| 17:53.25 | mickeyl | where? |
| 17:53.58 | koen | watch the next commit |
| 17:54.53 | koen | I bet you will feel pretty stupid ;) |
| 17:55.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rec33cbe7... 10/conf/distro/ (familiar-0.8.3.conf openzaurus-3.5.4.conf): conf/distro: make oz and fam include distro.conf *after* setting DISTRO_VERSION |
| 17:55.44 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 17:56.23 | mickeyl | i guess i better break something else ;) |
| 17:56.57 | Bernardo | mickeyl: did you see the problems I'm having with pcre? |
| 17:57.52 | mickeyl | yeah. looks like we should patch the autofoo macros in pcre a bit |
| 17:58.01 | mickeyl | or Makefile.in for that matter |
| 17:58.19 | lucasvo | what bot is CIA-4? |
| 17:58.34 | mickeyl | ~ciabot |
| 17:58.45 | lucasvo | ~ciabot |
| 17:58.46 | mickeyl | http://cia.navi.cx/ |
| 17:58.49 | lucasvo | ah |
| 17:58.49 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I'll try "hacking it by hand" then |
| 17:58.54 | lucasvo | I thougt it is a command |
| 17:58.57 | Bernardo | just to see if I can get past it |
| 17:59.05 | mickeyl | Bernardo: yep |
| 17:59.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a76331c... 10/conf/distro/opensimpad-0.9.0.conf: conf/distro/opensimpad-0.9.0.conf: include distro.conf after setting DISTRO_VERSION |
| 18:01.08 | Bernardo | mickeyl: what kernel should I build for the akita? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 18:01.34 | mickeyl | Bernardo: 2.4 I'm afraid |
| 18:01.57 | mickeyl | we may ship 2.6 as an extra for the CXK, but since there are features missing, we can't use it as default yet |
| 18:02.21 | Bernardo | ok |
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| 18:08.27 | Bernardo | BINDIR = /usr/bin |
| 18:08.28 | Bernardo | LIBDIR = /usr/lib |
| 18:08.28 | Bernardo | INCDIR = /usr/include |
| 18:08.28 | Bernardo | MANDIR = /usr/share/man |
| 18:08.43 | Bernardo | this seems to be the problem in Makefile... |
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| 18:12.25 | mickeyl | that's ok so far. the problem is that some Makefiles do CFLAGS+=-I$(INCDIR) |
| 18:12.34 | mickeyl | which is wrong and needs to be patched |
| 18:14.09 | mickeyl | have a look at a couple of patches in packages/efl |
| 18:15.22 | Bernardo | ok, thanks |
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| 18:33.31 | zecke | mickeyl: ping |
| 18:37.37 | mickeyl | pöng |
| 18:38.55 | emte | i love you |
| 18:39.10 | emte | hmm i forgt the first part |
| 18:39.14 | emte | oh well |
| 18:41.03 | zecke | mickeyl: bitbake bootstrap-image with a tosa kernel fails |
| 18:41.16 | zecke | mickeyl: it wants to install orinoco and hostap modules |
| 18:41.20 | zecke | mickeyl: but these are not built |
| 18:42.27 | mickeyl | sounds like someone fiddled with that |
| 18:42.31 | mickeyl | it worked the last time I touchedit |
| 18:42.48 | mickeyl | who did the last change? |
| 18:43.05 | mickeyl | and is this 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 18:44.04 | mickeyl | from the looks of it, tosa-2.6.conf seems a bit brief |
| 18:44.53 | mickeyl | yeah orinoco-modules are missing in zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf |
| 18:44.59 | mickeyl | or rather, orinoco |
| 18:46.11 | mithro | hey people |
| 18:46.25 | mithro | anyone here going to Linux Kongress? it appears I will be attending it |
| 18:47.38 | emte | mithro, you will be happy to know ... not me |
| 18:47.56 | zecke | mickeyl: 2.6 ;) |
| 18:48.20 | zecke | but I still have no cross compiler on my mac... |
| 18:50.22 | emte | anyone here used getaddrinfo() yet? |
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| 19:33.42 | zecke | mickey|bbl: do we need to restart monotone? |
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| 19:34.18 | j_h | hi |
| 19:35.56 | AvengerMoJo | hi :) |
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| 19:40.24 | j_h | i got a problem compiling libmpeg2-0.4.0b from org.oe.dev pkgs with "undef ref to 'main'" ( http://pastebin.com/373972 ) is this supposed to be a bug in the bb? |
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| 19:50.06 | _chronic | is monotone ill? |
| 19:50.08 | _chronic | monotone: 31.0M | 1.0M | 9450 | 2445 | 2367 |
| 19:50.09 | _chronic | monotone: read from fd 5 (peer monotone.vanille.de) failed, disconnecting |
| 19:54.04 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: how can I build the zaurus kernel not using bitbake? but my hand? |
| 19:58.02 | AvengerMoJo | :o |
| 19:58.36 | pb_ | AvengerMoJo: that saw him off |
| 19:58.45 | AvengerMoJo | lol |
| 19:58.46 | AvengerMoJo | :P: |
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| 19:59.12 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: what was your question? |
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| 20:36.49 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: how can I build the zaurus kernel not using bitbake? but my hand? |
| 20:39.43 | AvengerMoJo | in 2.6 is the name of usbdevfs change to usbfs? |
| 20:40.35 | Noodles | Yes. |
| 20:41.09 | AvengerMoJo | Noodles: so I mount usbfs insteand of usbdevfs right |
| 20:41.52 | Noodles | Yes. |
| 20:42.11 | Noodles | I thought recent 2.4s allowed both in preparation for the move to usbfs, bicbw. |
| 20:42.22 | AvengerMoJo | ok :) |
| 20:42.39 | AvengerMoJo | I think hotplug need to update that |
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| 20:47.57 | AvengerMoJo | now my error using 2.6 for my libusb become ioctl(15, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0xbedcb32c) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) |
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| 20:48.10 | AvengerMoJo | instead of Function not find |
| 20:48.41 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: well the kernel is always right ;) |
| 20:53.04 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: hehe |
| 20:53.34 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: what effect do you expect? |
| 20:53.42 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: I think it is not the host problem ... devio report this .. and I the connection info under proc is stay the same in my laptop |
| 20:53.59 | mithro | zecke: you should come to linux kongress :P |
| 20:54.12 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: well basically libusb try to talk to the device I'm connecting to |
| 20:54.21 | zecke | mithro: you are coming? |
| 20:54.25 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: but some how this ioctl won't go |
| 20:56.37 | AvengerMoJo | open("/proc/bus/usb/001/003", O_RDWR) = 3 |
| 20:56.37 | AvengerMoJo | ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0xbeb2a758) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) |
| 20:56.42 | AvengerMoJo | this is the strace result |
| 20:58.43 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: is that usbproc (or procusb) or plain procfs? |
| 20:59.04 | mithro | zecke: yes |
| 20:59.19 | mithro | zecke: got my plane and ticket booked |
| 20:59.28 | mithro | hey mickey|bbl, you should come too! :P |
| 20:59.39 | mithro | they have information on better flash file systems :P |
| 21:01.03 | zecke | mithro: is dw*mw*Ã coming? |
| 21:01.23 | mithro | zecke: who is that? |
| 21:01.57 | zecke | author of jffs2 |
| 21:02.36 | mithro | hrm dunno |
| 21:02.38 | mithro | Logfs - finally a scalable flash file system by Jörn Engel |
| 21:03.18 | koen|tv | logfs is a jffs3 split of |
| 21:04.08 | mithro | you should come too koen :P |
| 21:04.30 | mithro | VFS based Union Mounts for Linux by Jan Blunck |
| 21:05.18 | mithro | that could be intresting too |
| 21:06.18 | AvengerMoJo | ..... |
| 21:06.29 | zecke | mithro: hehe, what about sponsoring? |
| 21:06.39 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: it is so crazy .... I look at my strace in the working version ... |
| 21:07.29 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: it is exactly the same but ... after the ENOTTY ... it will read the usb bus again in the working one... the zaurus just stop |
| 21:07.56 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: time to consult the source? |
| 21:08.36 | mithro | zecke: i couldn't afford to sponsor anyone |
| 21:09.08 | zecke | mithro: how does that come? |
| 21:09.27 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: right I looking at it right now |
| 21:10.09 | AvengerMoJo | not working ---> ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0xbeb2a758) = 4 |
| 21:10.12 | mithro | zecke: i could not parse your last sentance |
| 21:10.15 | AvengerMoJo | working ---> ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0xbfc82ff0) = 3 |
| 21:10.30 | AvengerMoJo | anyone know the = 4 and = 3 ...what is that ? |
| 21:10.40 | AvengerMoJo | I don't really what the number mean |
| 21:10.53 | mithro | when is it -> http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/ October 11-14, 2005 at University of Hamburg, Germany |
| 21:11.03 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: it is a FileDescriptor |
| 21:11.10 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: look for 'open' it returns the number |
| 21:11.14 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: ok thanks |
| 21:11.24 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: 0,1,2 should be the default (stdin,stdout,stderr) |
| 21:11.31 | pb_ | zecke: I think he means the return value |
| 21:11.36 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 21:11.41 | AvengerMoJo | pb_: you are right |
| 21:11.46 | mithro | hey pb_ |
| 21:11.49 | AvengerMoJo | I'm look at the = 4 and = 3 |
| 21:11.51 | pb_ | hi mithro |
| 21:11.54 | AvengerMoJo | not the 3 in the ioctl |
| 21:12.00 | mithro | what you up to? |
| 21:12.22 | mithro | would you be intrested in coming to/speaking at LCA Embedded Miniconf 2006? |
| 21:12.56 | pb_ | nothing much at the moment, just lounging around. |
| 21:13.18 | pb_ | yeah, possibly, but I'd have to think about how much it would cost. |
| 21:13.24 | pb_ | LCA is in New Zealand next year, right? |
| 21:13.50 | mithro | pb_: yeah |
| 21:14.07 | koen | LCABAINZ |
| 21:14.48 | mithro | i most probably won't be at the LCA, however I have been roped into organising the miniconf again |
| 21:15.25 | zecke | mithro: how is your swedish nowadays? enough to go shopping at IKEA? |
| 21:15.39 | mithro | zecke: everyone at IKEA speaks english :P |
| 21:15.50 | zecke | cheater |
| 21:16.17 | AvengerMoJo | is there any chance anyone know where is this up_read function in devio.c come from? |
| 21:16.18 | mithro | i failed Beginner Swedish, so i'm doing it again |
| 21:17.07 | AvengerMoJo | oh ... |
| 21:17.15 | mithro | pb_: however it's in January instead - which means everything is in a rush |
| 21:17.28 | pb_ | mm, expedia says it would cost me 3500 GBP. |
| 21:17.34 | pb_ | that does seem rather expensive |
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| 21:18.09 | mithro | pb_: that seems a bit expensive - i know that you can get from sydney to Dunedin for like $400 AUS |
| 21:18.19 | koen | pb_: qantas has a special fare for that period |
| 21:18.29 | koen | it does require a stop in australia |
| 21:18.30 | RP | mithro: We've been here before :) |
| 21:18.30 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5762bb54... 10/packages/linux/linux-h6300-omap1-2.6.12-rc5/defconfig: packages/linux/linux-h6300-omap1-2.6.12-rc5/defconfig: apply patch from #343 |
| 21:18.37 | mithro | some people got really really cheap sydney to dunedin for like $200 AUS :P |
| 21:18.39 | RP | evening all btw |
| 21:18.44 | mithro | hey RP |
| 21:18.45 | zecke | RP: hey |
| 21:18.46 | pb_ | koen: ah, I'll have a look |
| 21:18.52 | mithro | come to the Linux Kongress! :P |
| 21:18.57 | koen | hey RP |
| 21:19.05 | koen | RP: shoudln't you be camping right now? |
| 21:19.13 | pb_ | I don't remember how much it cost to fly to Sydney last time, but I don't think it was that much. |
| 21:19.21 | RP | koen: No, I've done enough of that... |
| 21:19.30 | RP | Ice on tents insn't funny :-/ |
| 21:19.36 | mithro | pb_: i seem to rember it been cheaper then I thought it should have been |
| 21:19.39 | zecke | RP: wb |
| 21:19.42 | mithro | anyway got to run |
| 21:19.54 | mithro | you should all come to Linux Kongress and LCA 2006! :P |
| 21:20.02 | RP | koen: You mentioned me beating the c7x0 kernel into shape? Have there been problems? |
| 21:20.02 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 21:20.11 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: I think I find the problem |
| 21:20.15 | koen | RP: not that I know off |
| 21:20.24 | RP | koen: Ah, that's ok then :) |
| 21:20.26 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: in my working one is using uhic instead of ohic |
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| 21:20.29 | koen | RP: I just wanted to know an ETA for the branch |
| 21:20.31 | pb_ | RP: surely ice on tents goes with the territory in the frozen north |
| 21:20.58 | RP | pb_: I was in the South (Yorkshire) ;-) |
| 21:21.06 | koen | pb_: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/nl/specials/ActionFares?lk=prnl |
| 21:21.14 | koen | pb_: I hope that applies for the UK too |
| 21:21.21 | RP | koen: I'd consider the kernel to be fairly well beaten... |
| 21:21.32 | AvengerMoJo | RP: :) |
| 21:21.37 | pb_ | RP: heh |
| 21:22.41 | AvengerMoJo | RP: do you know what's the different between the ohic and uhic? |
| 21:23.55 | RP | AvengerMoJo: You mean OHCI and UHCI? They're two different USB host interface standards |
| 21:24.04 | AvengerMoJo | I mean OHCI ... :) and UHCI right :) |
| 21:24.29 | AvengerMoJo | RP: does libusb only able to use UHCI? but not OHCI? |
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| 21:24.45 | RP | AvengerMoJo: I have no idea |
| 21:24.49 | pb_ | koen: hm, qantas is offering me 2800 GBP to fly to Sydney in January, or 5400 GBP (!) to fly to Brisbane. |
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| 21:24.59 | RP | I'd expect both to present the same sysfs interface |
| 21:25.08 | Noodles | libusb talks to /proc/bus/usb I thought, so should work with both. |
| 21:25.13 | koen | pb_: ouch |
| 21:25.16 | AvengerMoJo | RP: thanks |
| 21:25.26 | AvengerMoJo | Noodles: that's what I think ... |
| 21:25.35 | RP | Noodles: and the same procfs interface ;-) |
| 21:25.38 | AvengerMoJo | Noodles: but somehow it is not working the same way it should be |
| 21:25.58 | pb_ | oh well |
| 21:26.00 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:26.22 | RP | pb_: You should see the mess when you try and add a flight from Newcastle in ;-) |
| 21:26.32 | RP | Anyhow, I'm just passing the computer - back tomorrow |
| 21:27.34 | AvengerMoJo | RP: anyone else using libusb on zaurus before? |
| 21:27.38 | AvengerMoJo | ops |
| 21:27.50 | AvengerMoJo | sorry RP hehe didn't mean to put your name there hehe |
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| 21:47.41 | AvengerMoJo | it is so funny... lsusb work just fine ... |
| 21:50.17 | CIA-4 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r95f5e803... 10/packages/linux/ (6 files in 2 dirs): nslu2-kernel: working 2.6.14-rc2 kernel |
| 21:57.00 | AvengerMoJo | what is usb.ids? |
| 21:57.29 | pb_ | it maps numeric USB IDs to text strings |
| 21:58.30 | AvengerMoJo | I see ... |
| 21:58.53 | AvengerMoJo | pb_: do you think that will affect the result of libusb not using the device? |
| 21:59.03 | pb_ | no |
| 22:00.24 | AvengerMoJo | pb_: from what I seen ... it seem my application is not consider the /proc/bus/usb/xxx as the device ... wonder why ... |
| 22:01.08 | zecke | AvengerMoJo: what does mount say? |
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| 22:02.54 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: everything is working now ... usbfs and the usbutils return correct info |
| 22:03.11 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: except my application ... and ptpcam and libgphoto |
| 22:03.21 | AvengerMoJo | wondering ... what is missing |
| 22:08.36 | zecke | well good luck and good night |
| 22:08.43 | AvengerMoJo | zecke: thanks :) |
| 22:08.47 | AvengerMoJo | good night |
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| 22:38.15 | eathaiku | ? I'm running into problems with bitbake opie-image; konqueror won't build |
| 22:41.16 | eathaiku | here's my log.do_compile file: http://pastebin.ca/23897 |
| 22:43.06 | AvengerMoJo | libgphoto pack .a file install of .so ... |
| 22:48.01 | AvengerMoJo | however ... /home/oe/OpenEmbedded/build/oetmp/staging/arm-linux/shlibs/libgphoto2-camlibs.list this should .so file instead... |
| 23:12.27 | AvengerMoJo | .... |
| 23:12.31 | AvengerMoJo | it is working now :( |
| 23:13.01 | AvengerMoJo | I think it is because my library was not compile the way bitbake is compiling before |
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