| 00:00.35 | JustinP | ? |
| 00:01.09 | mreimer | dependency; I don't want to wait for that, so I'll use filebuild |
| 00:02.15 | mreimer | I already have it, I just don't want to build the latest greatest version |
| 00:02.27 | mreimer | r1 is probably good enough |
| 00:03.13 | emte | JustinP, if he is building for x86 |
| 00:12.16 | mreimer | JustinP: it built successfully |
| 00:13.46 | JustinP | :-) |
| 00:13.51 | mreimer | thanks! |
| 00:13.53 | JustinP | np |
| 00:39.43 | gb2 | ugh |
| 00:39.53 | gb2 | i just tried to understand debian's kernel-package |
| 00:40.40 | emte | good luck |
| 00:41.34 | gb2 | I'm thinking I might just start over from scratch. |
| 00:42.00 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: ...? |
| 00:42.11 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: did you try to use kpkg? |
| 00:42.24 | gb2 | I just need something to package a custom built kernel making "kernel-image" and "kernel-headers" packages to be used on a debian system. |
| 00:42.40 | gb2 | with a few customizations in the packaging process |
| 00:43.03 | emte | gb2, youu trying manual or using KDE's kbuild tool? |
| 00:43.14 | gb2 | make-kpkg looks like it's overengineered perl written by 10,000 monkeys on some sort of bad batch of acid |
| 00:43.24 | AvengerMoJo | hehe |
| 00:43.42 | emte | that rather sounds like the kernel doesnt it? :P |
| 00:43.43 | gb2 | emte: i don't really want even more levels of indirection |
| 00:43.44 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: basically you just use make-kpkg kernel-image ... then you are done :) |
| 00:44.08 | emte | gb2, jsut wasnt sure how you were doing it |
| 00:44.29 | AvengerMoJo | if you update something .. you can add --revision someXXX then you are done with different deb package |
| 00:44.37 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: shouldn't be that bad |
| 00:44.53 | gb2 | avenger: i know how it's supposed to work. the problem is this situation requires a bit more munging of the files being packaged |
| 00:45.18 | gb2 | sarge's make-kpkg also can't properly package 2.6 kernels |
| 00:45.26 | gb2 | the one in testing can |
| 00:46.09 | AvengerMoJo | hum ... can you just pin the testing make-kpkg install and use that? |
| 00:46.17 | gb2 | I want to modify it to add a kernel-dbg package as well, but make-kpkg is too bloated to be able to really do that without spending a while understanding it. |
| 00:47.33 | gb2 | I wonder if doing this whole process will reveal why debian's separated debuginfo is broken |
| 00:49.42 | AvengerMoJo | hehe |
| 00:49.42 | AvengerMoJo | possible |
| 00:50.22 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: try debian channel I think some guys in there really may help you get to what you want |
| 00:51.00 | gb2 | heh |
| 00:51.08 | AvengerMoJo | :P |
| 00:52.00 | gb2 | last time i followed a coworker submitting a bug into debian, the maintainers didn't seem to actually understand. |
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| 00:54.05 | gb2 | this was a valgrind issue, and the maintainers seemed like they had a user's prospective of the problem rather than a toolchain/library internals view of the problem. |
| 00:55.00 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: hum |
| 00:55.34 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: sometime there are two kind of maintainer :) one is more hacker ... one is more usability type I guess |
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| 00:57.10 | gb2 | yeah. |
| 00:57.40 | gb2 | i've found package consistency is sorely lacking across debian's packages. there's a LOT of different styles and levels of experience. |
| 00:58.36 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: hum :) well.. better get some support then none |
| 00:59.32 | gb2 | or use another distro :) |
| 01:00.12 | AvengerMoJo | lol |
| 01:00.34 | gb2 | I use fedora personally, but work uses debian |
| 01:00.35 | AvengerMoJo | gb2: too many ... I prefer using debian and build from source after install |
| 01:00.53 | AvengerMoJo | then again .. that's just me ... |
| 01:01.06 | gb2 | too many? |
| 01:01.06 | AvengerMoJo | gentoo take too long to install ... |
| 01:01.12 | AvengerMoJo | too many distribution |
| 01:01.36 | AvengerMoJo | I do like Gobo linux :) but not enought package and support |
| 01:02.25 | gb2 | I think part of the problem debian has is that it's too large, and has rule by comittee, so stuff drags on, policy becomes long and bloated, and QA suffers somewhat from that. |
| 01:02.44 | kergoth | ubuntu seems to be making debian quite a bit more usable |
| 01:02.55 | gb2 | yeah |
| 01:03.34 | gb2 | I've ranted before about debian's libc shipping with broken separated debuginfo, ubuntu's works fine. they're the same package though when i went to look. |
| 01:03.48 | gb2 | i didn't go digging much beyond that |
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| 01:06.16 | AvengerMoJo | oe ...using daily opie package ... is that needed? |
| 01:06.46 | AvengerMoJo | everyday I build ..it will download the lately daily cvs tarball ... |
| 01:07.16 | JustinP | I hate that |
| 01:07.22 | JustinP | no, it's not needed |
| 01:07.27 | JustinP | it *should* have a fixed CVSDATE |
| 01:07.42 | JustinP | if you could make a note of all of the opie packages which get rebuilt every day I'd be grateful |
| 01:08.06 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: what do you mean by that |
| 01:08.12 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I don't really get it |
| 01:08.22 | JustinP | or if you could add a CVSDATE = "20050909" to them all and give me a monotone diff that would also be good |
| 01:08.43 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: all of those packages are set up to pull from CVS but don't have a CVSDATE in the bb file |
| 01:08.47 | JustinP | they should have one |
| 01:08.59 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 01:09.37 | JustinP | *actually* they should be renamed to have a CVSDATE in their filename and use CVSDATE = "${PV}" |
| 01:09.40 | AvengerMoJo | may be I can write a script and add or remove all the opie package assigned by date? |
| 01:09.56 | AvengerMoJo | oh what is {PV} by the way |
| 01:10.02 | JustinP | actually...perhaps I could write a simple script to find such things.... |
| 01:10.12 | JustinP | ${PV} is the version in the filename |
| 01:10.20 | JustinP | everything after the first _ I believe |
| 01:10.46 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 01:11.44 | AvengerMoJo | so ... what I can do .. is write a script to add, remove and edit all the opie-bb file with the CVSDATE |
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| 01:14.58 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: where is the bb file getting the CVSDATE from? |
| 01:15.11 | AvengerMoJo | monotone itself? |
| 01:18.21 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: this depends.... |
| 01:18.30 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 01:18.48 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: for the ones which change every day a CVSDATE should be added to each of the bb files |
| 01:19.18 | AvengerMoJo | right |
| 01:19.37 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: but what I mean is .. where is the variable value feeding from? |
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| 01:20.09 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: does monotone get the default value? |
| 01:20.19 | JustinP | if there is no CVSDATE set the bitbake sets it to today automatically |
| 01:20.28 | JustinP | monotone has nothing to do with building |
| 01:20.32 | JustinP | it's only the SCM |
| 01:21.11 | AvengerMoJo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.11 | AvengerMoJo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.11 | AvengerMoJo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.18 | AvengerMoJo | in the base.bbclass |
| 01:21.28 | AvengerMoJo | does it have anything to do with it? |
| 01:22.42 | AvengerMoJo | bb.data <--- what is this |
| 01:24.08 | AvengerMoJo | I need more background understand on the build system... it is still too many unkown to me |
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| 01:25.20 | JustinP | don't worry about the bbclass |
| 01:25.23 | JustinP | that's perfectly fine |
| 01:25.27 | JustinP | it's meant to be that way |
| 01:25.36 | JustinP | we need to add a CVSDATE to the files which don't define one |
| 01:26.50 | AvengerMoJo | you mean override it will some specific day right |
| 01:27.15 | AvengerMoJo | what we can do also is a globle include file for all opie |
| 01:27.25 | AvengerMoJo | then put the CVSDATE in the include file |
| 01:27.39 | AvengerMoJo | and put the include line in all the opie-cvs bb file |
| 01:27.48 | AvengerMoJo | that should fix it |
| 01:29.34 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: what do you think? |
| 01:31.05 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: what is why I'm thinking bbclass file.. if we can update just the bbclass for opie and define the CVSDATE in it ... it should update all the bb file doesn't it? |
| 01:32.45 | JustinP | if they all include the same file I supose that will work, yes |
| 01:34.04 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I will try to get you the diff after I get this build hehe :P |
| 01:37.18 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I'm just thinking where should this file located |
| 01:38.38 | JustinP | well...if it's all pulled fromt he same place and interconnected it makes some sense to use the same CVSDATE for them all. But if they're disparate packages it makes more sense to put it in each of the files directly. |
| 01:40.53 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I see ... I guess still better write a script to generate the CVSDATE into the file will be better |
| 01:41.24 | JustinP | and in that case we actually should do a rename wiht CVSDATE = "${PV}" |
| 01:41.34 | JustinP | see e17/e-wm_xxxxx.bb |
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| 01:43.39 | AvengerMoJo | where is PV define? |
| 01:44.17 | JustinP | I'm not sure where it's *set* but that doesn't matter as much as the value it gets. As I said before it's the version part of the filename |
| 01:44.32 | AvengerMoJo | ok |
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| 02:23.16 | JustinP | ~lart Flash |
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| 02:38.31 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: .. I see some bb file get a line like PV= "1.2.0+cvs-${CVSDATE}" |
| 02:38.54 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: if we define CVSDATE=${PV} .... won't that be a problem |
| 02:40.27 | JustinP | yes |
| 02:43.18 | AvengerMoJo | .... :) |
| 02:43.43 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: so .. should i update the CVSDATE="20050906" as a fix date then? |
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| 02:53.17 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: sure |
| 02:53.52 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I wrote a script to add the CVSDATE for all the bb file |
| 02:54.02 | AvengerMoJo | all the cvs.bb |
| 02:54.13 | AvengerMoJo | I mean .. all the opie*cvs.bb |
| 02:54.17 | JustinP | ok |
| 02:54.19 | JustinP | does it work |
| 02:54.32 | AvengerMoJo | the file update work |
| 02:55.00 | JustinP | "Lain has no mail" |
| 02:55.10 | AvengerMoJo | I will look for CVSDATE=* and the delete that line if exist ... then add your own CVSDATE="2005XXXX" line |
| 02:55.19 | AvengerMoJo | right before the PV line |
| 02:58.49 | JustinP | nono |
| 02:58.56 | JustinP | don't delete previous CVSDATES |
| 02:59.02 | JustinP | only add it to ones that don't have it |
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| 03:26.38 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: ok |
| 03:26.44 | AvengerMoJo | do you want the script |
| 03:27.18 | JustinP | sure |
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| 03:32.01 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: http://pastebin.ca/22556 |
| 03:35.28 | AvengerMoJo | take me almost 5 days ...to build this ... |
| 03:36.49 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: ... stupid question .. where is the output fs image? |
| 03:37.17 | JustinP | tmp/deploy/images |
| 03:38.18 | AvengerMoJo | thanks |
| 03:38.32 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: does the script useful? |
| 03:38.37 | JustinP | not sure |
| 03:38.44 | JustinP | sorry, I'm working right now |
| 03:39.15 | AvengerMoJo | ok :) |
| 03:40.51 | JustinP | good luck |
| 03:43.38 | BigAl | AvengerMoJo: What image are you testing? |
| 04:03.11 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 04:03.45 | AvengerMoJo | .... is the SanDisk being support in kernel now? |
| 04:04.02 | AvengerMoJo | can't find any good how to ... :( |
| 04:13.06 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:13.14 | JustinP | do you mean Secure Digital? |
| 04:14.58 | AvengerMoJo | no :) |
| 04:15.13 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: SanDisk ... the small flash disk |
| 04:15.34 | AvengerMoJo | I get a internal reader in my laptop and never able to get it to work |
| 04:15.49 | AvengerMoJo | but when I plugin .. i get this cs: memory probe 0x0c0000-0x0fffff: excluding 0xc0000-0xcffff 0xd8000-0xfffff |
| 04:16.23 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:16.41 | JustinP | ::shrug:: |
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| 04:50.49 | abm_y4k | hi all |
| 04:51.18 | abm_y4k | I finally made it here :) |
| 04:52.57 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 04:53.03 | AvengerMoJo | and you do |
| 04:54.20 | abm_y4k | I am doing update now with monotone but its very slow |
| 04:54.46 | AvengerMoJo | it is :) |
| 04:55.01 | AvengerMoJo | did you download the image |
| 04:55.29 | abm_y4k | yes I did :) |
| 04:55.49 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 04:55.50 | abm_y4k | I didn't at first, and waiting tooo long |
| 04:55.55 | AvengerMoJo | that's should be faster |
| 04:56.05 | AvengerMoJo | yup :) |
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| 04:56.09 | AvengerMoJo | like forever |
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| 04:56.31 | abm_y4k | bitbake task-bootstrap -> will this build a zImage file or fully working oz? |
| 04:56.50 | JustinP | that will give you all of the ipks for a bootstrap image |
| 04:56.58 | JustinP | bitbake bootstrap-image |
| 04:57.09 | abm_y4k | including hostap? |
| 04:57.15 | JustinP | ? |
| 04:57.18 | JustinP | look at it |
| 04:57.47 | JustinP | should be in packages/meta |
| 04:57.57 | abm_y4k | yea, I see it |
| 04:58.08 | abm_y4k | I need help here. |
| 04:58.17 | JustinP | so ask a question |
| 04:58.20 | AvengerMoJo | lol |
| 04:58.21 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 04:58.27 | abm_y4k | hold on, my typing is slow |
| 04:58.35 | JustinP | you should look for DEPENDS and RDEPENDS |
| 04:58.42 | JustinP | DEPENDS is what to build for the current file |
| 04:58.52 | JustinP | RDEPENDS is what the ipk created will depend on |
| 04:59.09 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: more usb card read work ... but I couldn't seem to find any info on line that help me get my onboard cardreader to work at all |
| 04:59.18 | AvengerMoJo | %s/more/most |
| 04:59.48 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: so you have an SD card reader on your laptop? Are you sure it's a SanDisk card reader? |
| 04:59.58 | AvengerMoJo | yes |
| 05:00.03 | AvengerMoJo | positive |
| 05:00.08 | JustinP | just making sure |
| 05:00.19 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 05:00.20 | abm_y4k | I got a linksys WCF12 wifi card, and I am using C3100 with oz 3.5.4pre the one Mickey compiled. |
| 05:00.21 | JustinP | laptops are generally less supported than desktops |
| 05:00.29 | JustinP | but it's better than it used to be |
| 05:00.41 | AvengerMoJo | hum |
| 05:00.50 | AvengerMoJo | man... you get C3100 |
| 05:00.58 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 05:00.59 | abm_y4k | I want to patch hostap so it can allow my linksys card to inject packets |
| 05:01.19 | abm_y4k | yea I got one, the first day sharp released it :) |
| 05:01.30 | AvengerMoJo | abm_y4k: :) |
| 05:01.38 | AvengerMoJo | abm_y4k: I get a C3000 |
| 05:01.52 | AvengerMoJo | abm_y4k: but I get it for work really |
| 05:01.53 | abm_y4k | but I am having difficulty with this toy |
| 05:02.04 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 05:02.14 | abm_y4k | I am a system admin, I need this toy for work as well :) |
| 05:02.24 | AvengerMoJo | hehe ok |
| 05:02.35 | JustinP | I have a C3000 |
| 05:02.36 | AvengerMoJo | that's a high end network monitoring tool |
| 05:02.37 | JustinP | works very well |
| 05:02.39 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 05:02.50 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: :) |
| 05:02.52 | tengulre | I m a beginner with Open Embedded? I want to know , which developet mainboard is fine to me ? |
| 05:02.59 | JustinP | I've been using an Ambicom CF 802.11b card without problems |
| 05:03.08 | JustinP | works with wpa_supplicant as well |
| 05:03.09 | abm_y4k | yes, especially when I have the aircrack working with hostap |
| 05:03.37 | JustinP | tengulre: what do you mean by "which mainboard"? Are you looking to create a new machine? |
| 05:03.47 | abm_y4k | I am currently research on wifi security.. but can't use this toy |
| 05:04.11 | tengulre | JustinP, I want to select a board and CPU! |
| 05:04.13 | AvengerMoJo | tengulre: :) ....what are you trying to do |
| 05:04.25 | abm_y4k | so any steps for me to get hostap patch without doing much of works? |
| 05:04.43 | abm_y4k | try atomchip.com |
| 05:05.02 | abm_y4k | that thing rocks ;) |
| 05:06.14 | JustinP | abm_y4k: yes, bootstrap includes hostap for the clamshells |
| 05:06.56 | JustinP | abm_y4k: see conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.4.conf |
| 05:07.38 | abm_y4k | JustinP: so I just patch the hostap that allow firmware updates, and bitbake bootstrap-image should work? |
| 05:09.18 | JustinP | abm_y4k: you'll need to put your patch in the hostap folder and alter the bb file to include the patch |
| 05:10.01 | abm_y4k | oh no.. I have to learn about bb file :( |
| 05:10.59 | JustinP | it's not hard |
| 05:11.11 | JustinP | and you can ask questions here ;-) |
| 05:11.26 | JustinP | some people will help and others won't |
| 05:11.35 | JustinP | I *usually* help |
| 05:11.36 | abm_y4k | sure I will :) |
| 05:12.04 | AvengerMoJo | lol |
| 05:12.05 | abm_y4k | but what I need to do is very simple just uncomment "PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD" in the hostap_config.h |
| 05:12.20 | abm_y4k | do I still need to alter the bb file? |
| 05:12.51 | AvengerMoJo | you can build that package seperately |
| 05:13.08 | AvengerMoJo | or you can add a patch into the bb file |
| 05:13.15 | abm_y4k | bitbake hostap ? |
| 05:13.26 | JustinP | or you can add a quick sed to do_compile_prepend() |
| 05:13.36 | abm_y4k | ok got it |
| 05:13.37 | JustinP | do_compile_prepend() { |
| 05:13.47 | abm_y4k | i'll try both way |
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| 05:14.00 | JustinP | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.01 | JustinP | } |
| 05:15.01 | abm_y4k | what is ${S}? |
| 05:15.06 | abm_y4k | source dir? |
| 05:16.09 | abm_y4k | oh no, monotone is still updating.... |
| 05:16.24 | JustinP | yes |
| 05:16.30 | abm_y4k | thanks |
| 05:16.34 | JustinP | when is your snapshot from? |
| 05:16.57 | abm_y4k | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 |
| 05:17.09 | JustinP | I meant when did you download it? |
| 05:17.10 | abm_y4k | the one on handhelds.org |
| 05:17.15 | abm_y4k | today |
| 05:17.18 | JustinP | oh |
| 05:17.27 | JustinP | how many revisions is monotone working on? |
| 05:17.50 | abm_y4k | rev in or out? |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: connecting to monotone.vanille.de |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: finding items to synchronize: |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: certs | keys | revisions |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: 7830 | 31 | 2050 |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in | revs written |
| 05:18.01 | abm_y4k | monotone: 426.5k | 118.0k | 650 | 125 | 1 |
| 05:18.03 | abm_y4k | monotone: verifying new revisions (this may take a while) |
| 05:18.05 | abm_y4k | monotone: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in | revs written |
| 05:18.07 | abm_y4k | monotone: 469.5k | 118.0k | 650 | 125 | 91 |
| 05:18.24 | JustinP | in |
| 05:18.29 | JustinP | please don't flood |
| 05:18.42 | abm_y4k | sorry! is cpu matters ^_~ |
| 05:19.18 | abm_y4k | I got a celeron 468.308MHz only :( |
| 05:20.51 | abm_y4k | anyways, should be done over night. thanks for the help JustinP and AvengerMoJo! |
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| 05:21.37 | abm_y4k | ZZzzz now. good night all! |
| 05:22.17 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 05:35.53 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: .... what is the filename I need to update to ? |
| 05:36.04 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I mean the image for flashing the rom |
| 05:36.42 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I don't understand |
| 05:37.06 | AvengerMoJo | the update.sh.split need to be rename to ... I forget what |
| 05:37.35 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: also I won't need initrd.img? |
| 05:37.51 | JustinP | .split? |
| 05:38.07 | JustinP | you should have update.sh, zImage.bin, and initrd.bin |
| 05:38.08 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: updater.sh.spitz |
| 05:38.09 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 05:38.14 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 05:38.24 | AvengerMoJo | opie-image-spitz-20050909125153.rootfs.img updater.sh.spitz |
| 05:38.24 | AvengerMoJo | opie-image-spitz-20050909125153.rootfs.tar.bz2 zImage-2.6.13-mm1-spitz-20050909125153.bin |
| 05:38.32 | AvengerMoJo | this is all I get from deploy |
| 05:38.43 | AvengerMoJo | I don't see initrd |
| 05:39.54 | JustinP | yep, and all 3 are right there |
| 05:40.40 | AvengerMoJo | rootfs is the initrd? |
| 05:40.42 | AvengerMoJo | ok |
| 05:40.46 | AvengerMoJo | thanks |
| 05:40.55 | AvengerMoJo | that confused me for a while .:) |
| 05:41.10 | JustinP | make sur eyou use the .img, not the .bz2 |
| 05:41.32 | AvengerMoJo | oh |
| 05:41.32 | AvengerMoJo | ok |
| 05:48.07 | AvengerMoJo | ... ops |
| 05:48.17 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: ERROR flush Write |
| 05:53.03 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: any idea? |
| 05:54.23 | JustinP | you're suing the right updater.sh? |
| 05:54.32 | JustinP | you used the .img for initrd? |
| 05:56.05 | AvengerMoJo | right |
| 05:56.12 | JustinP | no idea |
| 05:56.15 | AvengerMoJo | I think it has finish updating the kernel |
| 05:56.20 | JustinP | was your card formatted right? |
| 05:56.27 | AvengerMoJo | how? |
| 05:56.59 | JustinP | FAT12 |
| 05:57.17 | AvengerMoJo | .... |
| 05:57.37 | AvengerMoJo | FAT12 .. |
| 05:58.32 | JustinP | one of the FATs at least,.... |
| 05:58.56 | AvengerMoJo | I think so ... I will try again .. |
| 05:59.02 | AvengerMoJo | will the kernel being too big |
| 05:59.42 | AvengerMoJo | -rw-are--are-- 1 alex alex 1292460 9月 10 13:20 zImage-2.6.13-mm1-spitz-20050909125153.bin |
| 05:59.48 | AvengerMoJo | 1.3M |
| 06:02.30 | JustinP | did you alter the config at all? |
| 06:04.01 | AvengerMoJo | no :) |
| 06:04.41 | AvengerMoJo | it seem to write ... for a little bit then it die |
| 06:08.38 | AvengerMoJo | in the offical... there is one like this .. mv pivotboot-image-spitz-20050428205242.rootfs.imginitrd.bin |
| 06:08.45 | AvengerMoJo | pivotboot-image .. what is that |
| 06:09.27 | AvengerMoJo | because I think I still missing the initrd .. opie-image is for hdimage1.tgz... |
| 06:12.51 | AvengerMoJo | should the kernel need the initrd ? :) |
| 06:20.12 | JustinP | oh....heh |
| 06:20.12 | JustinP | sorry |
| 06:20.12 | JustinP | yeah, for the spitz you need an initrd *and* an hdimage |
| 06:20.49 | JustinP | you need to convert the opie-image*****.bz2 to a tgz and name it hdimage1.tgz |
| 06:21.08 | JustinP | (I've never "flashed" an hdimage) |
| 06:21.22 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 06:21.26 | JustinP | yes, you need a pivotboot-image |
| 06:21.32 | JustinP | "bitbake pivotboot-image" |
| 06:21.36 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: also why does it come with bz2? not tgz? |
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| 06:21.49 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: not sure...possibly the conf |
| 06:21.51 | abm_y4k | hi all, back :) |
| 06:21.54 | JustinP | easy enough to fix |
| 06:21.59 | JustinP | bzip2 -d xxx.bz2 |
| 06:22.07 | JustinP | gzip xxx |
| 06:22.41 | AvengerMoJo | right ... but that is kind of silly to not do it in the bb |
| 06:22.46 | AvengerMoJo | directly |
| 06:22.51 | JustinP | ::shrug:: |
| 06:22.56 | JustinP | I'm sure it's configurable |
| 06:23.02 | abm_y4k | JustinP: there aren't any source code files for the packages :( |
| 06:23.07 | JustinP | I don't use them, as I said...at least not for "flashing" |
| 06:23.14 | abm_y4k | so I must edit the bb file |
| 06:23.16 | JustinP | I unzip directly to a partition myself |
| 06:23.29 | JustinP | I've left my Sharp ROM info untouched all of this time ;-) |
| 06:23.51 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I see .. so you still get all the good stuff :) |
| 06:23.51 | AvengerMoJo | hehe |
| 06:23.55 | JustinP | abm_y4k: no, of course not, that would make the repository *huge*. And there's no reason to store them in the OE rep |
| 06:24.18 | JustinP | abm_y4k: you don't *have* to alter the bb file...you can unpack, then edit the source, then compile, but that's not reproducible |
| 06:24.32 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I haven't botted in the Sharp ROM for a long, long, long time |
| 06:24.37 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I should really get rid of it |
| 06:24.41 | abm_y4k | yea I just found out |
| 06:24.44 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I also created a swap partition for myself |
| 06:24.52 | AvengerMoJo | me too |
| 06:25.00 | AvengerMoJo | I see that : |
| 06:25.03 | AvengerMoJo | last time |
| 06:25.09 | AvengerMoJo | I did that last time |
| 06:25.10 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 06:25.22 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: and I also use file images for my development so I don't kill my main install |
| 06:25.25 | abm_y4k | JustinP this is the line after altered yours: |
| 06:25.25 | AvengerMoJo | but one crazy point in the start up |
| 06:25.30 | abm_y4k | do_compile_prepend() { |
| 06:25.30 | abm_y4k | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:25.30 | abm_y4k | } |
| 06:25.33 | AvengerMoJo | if I didn't load the mplayer module it won't load at all |
| 06:25.54 | abm_y4k | do I need \ for special chars? |
| 06:25.58 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: you mean you build stuff directly in the C3000 |
| 06:26.14 | JustinP | abm_y4k: only for ones that sed sees as special. Probably not / |
| 06:26.26 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: ? mplayer "module"? |
| 06:26.27 | abm_y4k | what about *? |
| 06:26.36 | abm_y4k | and #? |
| 06:26.42 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: forget the name .. bbvd |
| 06:26.54 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I *have* compiled on the Z. I compiled parted in the Sharp ROM and I compiled emacs in OZ (that took forever). |
| 06:27.07 | JustinP | abm_y4k: I don't know, "man sed" |
| 06:27.33 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: right ... then what do you mean by using the image for development |
| 06:28.07 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: I mean that when I create a new image I test is using a file image instead of using a partition |
| 06:28.19 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 06:28.21 | AvengerMoJo | get you |
| 06:28.30 | AvengerMoJo | my C3000 don't get wireless |
| 06:28.32 | AvengerMoJo | so :( |
| 06:28.39 | JustinP | and if you wanted ot run, say, Opie and GPE in seperate environments you could do it that way |
| 06:28.41 | AvengerMoJo | I get a card but it didn't work |
| 06:28.43 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: using what card? |
| 06:28.49 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: mine has wireless |
| 06:28.52 | AvengerMoJo | one sec |
| 06:29.00 | JustinP | even WPA |
| 06:29.10 | AvengerMoJo | that's cool |
| 06:29.19 | AvengerMoJo | my is ET-CWB1000 |
| 06:29.23 | abm_y4k | one more question, I see there is lots of machine conf, how do I compile for borzoi? |
| 06:29.26 | AvengerMoJo | EagleTec |
| 06:29.33 | AvengerMoJo | I have seen someone talk about it |
| 06:29.40 | AvengerMoJo | but I never get the driver |
| 06:29.52 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: never heard of it |
| 06:30.01 | JustinP | abm_y4k: you set it in your local.conf |
| 06:30.08 | abm_y4k | oh ic |
| 06:30.09 | abm_y4k | ok |
| 06:30.11 | abm_y4k | thx |
| 06:30.19 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: which one you are using |
| 06:30.28 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: Ambicom |
| 06:30.39 | JustinP | WL1100C-CF |
| 06:30.43 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 06:30.54 | JustinP | works without any problems whatsoever |
| 06:31.09 | AvengerMoJo | can I put two thing in one line bitbake |
| 06:31.22 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: such as? |
| 06:31.46 | AvengerMoJo | bitbake pivotboot-image opie-image |
| 06:32.19 | JustinP | heh |
| 06:32.21 | JustinP | yeah |
| 06:32.40 | AvengerMoJo | ok |
| 06:32.55 | AvengerMoJo | thanks |
| 06:33.16 | JustinP | ~lart my powerbookf or being slow |
| 06:34.12 | AvengerMoJo | hehe |
| 06:34.20 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: what kind of powerbook you get |
| 06:34.34 | AvengerMoJo | are you using that for building oe also |
| 06:34.43 | JustinP | bwahahah! |
| 06:34.44 | JustinP | no |
| 06:34.58 | JustinP | I'm using it because it's the only thing I have that I can get Flash MX to run on |
| 06:35.05 | JustinP | it's a Lombard....400Mhz G3.... |
| 06:35.10 | AvengerMoJo | Oh :) |
| 06:35.17 | JustinP | I try not to use macs but I'm forced to here |
| 06:35.20 | AvengerMoJo | really .. |
| 06:35.23 | AvengerMoJo | why |
| 06:35.41 | AvengerMoJo | new mac is pretty nice I think |
| 06:35.55 | JustinP | I like my Linux, thanks |
| 06:36.06 | JustinP | and macs are far too expensive |
| 06:37.59 | emte | understatement |
| 06:38.03 | JustinP | I bought this one because I thought my wife wanted it |
| 06:38.12 | emte | and i doubt they will get cheaper going x86 |
| 06:38.34 | AvengerMoJo | I see |
| 06:39.08 | emte | job better hope his server market holds out |
| 06:40.03 | AvengerMoJo | hehe JustinP flashing done!!!! |
| 06:40.09 | JustinP | ^_^ |
| 06:40.23 | AvengerMoJo | god :) ... finally |
| 06:40.32 | emte | PCnet/FAST+ 79C972 ... you think thats my gigabit card? |
| 06:40.49 | emte | its either that or my fiber card |
| 06:40.53 | abm_y4k | JustinP: this is what I set: MACHINE = "borzoi" TARGET_ARCH = "arm" TARGET_OS = "linux" DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4" KERNEL_VERSION = "2.4.20" is this correct? |
| 06:42.56 | AvengerMoJo | ... unable to initialize console? |
| 06:43.33 | JustinP | you don't want/need TARGET_ARCH or TARGET_OS |
| 06:43.48 | JustinP | and you don't need a kernel version |
| 06:44.00 | JustinP | (the right value for 2.4 would be "2.4" but that's the default) |
| 06:44.08 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: fun |
| 06:44.17 | AvengerMoJo | :) |
| 06:44.30 | AvengerMoJo | so far so good |
| 06:47.14 | abm_y4k | alrite |
| 06:47.16 | abm_y4k | thanks |
| 06:49.57 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: time to take a break |
| 06:50.01 | AvengerMoJo | seem nice |
| 06:50.03 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: break well |
| 06:50.19 | JustinP | ~lart people for changing implementation when they're supposed to be finishing the app |
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| 06:52.04 | emte | JustinP, isnt that when you find the implementation is wrong? :P |
| 06:53.12 | JustinP | emte: no, I don't think so..... |
| 06:53.32 | emte | lol |
| 06:53.35 | JustinP | anyway I'm dragged back in without any real Flash experience and no insight into the code-base to finish this thing...::sigh:: |
| 06:54.07 | emte | sorry i cant help you, i only know director's actionscript |
| 06:56.10 | AvengerMoJo | hum |
| 06:56.30 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: I guess 2.4 kernel still better? |
| 06:56.57 | JustinP | "better" in what way? more fully featured? yes. more stable? probably not |
| 06:57.58 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: really? why is 2.4 less stable? |
| 06:58.27 | AvengerMoJo | why is the system benchmark doesn't get C3000 :) |
| 06:58.35 | AvengerMoJo | maybe I can add it |
| 06:58.40 | JustinP | eh? |
| 06:58.52 | abm_y4k | JustinP: I see that the sed command you gave me is a bit diff from the linux one |
| 06:58.52 | abm_y4k | JustinP: yours: sed -i s:\/\* \#define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD \*\//:#define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD: ${S}/hostap_config.h |
| 06:58.52 | abm_y4k | JustinP: linux: sed -i 's/\/\* #define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD \*\//#define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD/' filename |
| 06:58.54 | JustinP | the 2.4 kernel si embeddix and inherently unstable and just plain crap |
| 06:59.16 | JustinP | abm_y4k: I didn't give you that line |
| 06:59.27 | JustinP | abm_y4k: yes, you should use '' when you have spaces and things like * |
| 06:59.41 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: the newest 2.4 kernel is 2.4.20? |
| 06:59.54 | abm_y4k | so I can just insert the linux line in and should work rite? |
| 07:00.02 | JustinP | linux line in? |
| 07:00.24 | abm_y4k | this one: sed -i 's/\/\* #define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD \*\//#define PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD/': ${S}/hostap_config.h |
| 07:00.25 | JustinP | AvengerMoJo: the embeddix kernel which Sharp released for the Cxx00 devices pretends to be 2.4.20, yes |
| 07:00.34 | JustinP | abm_y4k: use what works..... |
| 07:00.53 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: if I switch back to 2.4 do I need to clean up everything? |
| 07:01.05 | abm_y4k | oh I though the bb file will be different, so I just want to double check. |
| 07:01.10 | abm_y4k | sorry for bothering |
| 07:01.14 | JustinP | you probably need to rebuild with that, yes |
| 07:01.38 | JustinP | abm_y4k: depending on where you're putting things it's basically the same as writing ont he command-line |
| 07:01.49 | JustinP | abm_y4k: yu don't need the '' ont he command-line in some cases |
| 07:03.23 | abm_y4k | thankx |
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| 07:06.35 | abm_y4k | in the hostap package, there are different version, 0.3.7,0.4.4,0.3.9 what should to just build the hostap package? bitbake hostap? |
| 07:07.21 | JustinP | yes |
| 07:07.32 | abm_y4k | ok thankx again |
| 07:07.54 | JustinP | that will choose the "preferred" or "newest" version depending on vairous thingd |
| 07:23.52 | abm_y4k | what is this mean: ERROR: Edit your conf/local.conf: BBFILES? |
| 07:26.20 | JustinP | it means "edit your conf/local.conf" |
| 07:27.05 | JustinP | perhaps your BBFILES setting is wrong? |
| 07:30.02 | abm_y4k | oh |
| 07:37.20 | abm_y4k | I have lots of errors: |
| 07:37.27 | abm_y4k | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0090/2737) [ 3 %]ERROR: binutils.inc:107: unparsed line: 'pkg_postinst_${PN}-symlinks () {' while parsing /usr/src/zaurus/oz/org.openembedded.dev/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.16.bb |
| 07:37.41 | abm_y4k | whats wrong? |
| 07:38.24 | JustinP | probably something wrong with your configuration |
| 07:38.27 | JustinP | or you environment |
| 07:38.32 | JustinP | did you set up your BBPATH? |
| 07:39.13 | JustinP | you also need to alter your path if you're building a 2.4 Zaurus kernel (after installing the 2.95 toolchain) |
| 07:39.17 | JustinP | this is all in the wiki |
| 07:40.12 | abm_y4k | [ztester@fc1 oz]$ echo $PATH |
| 07:40.12 | abm_y4k | /usr/src/zaurus/oz/bitbake:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/ztester/bin |
| 07:40.12 | abm_y4k | [ztester@fc1 oz]$ echo $BBPATH |
| 07:40.12 | abm_y4k | /usr/src/zaurus/oz/build:/usr/src/zaurus/oz/org.openembedded.dev |
| 07:40.31 | abm_y4k | this shold be fine rite? |
| 07:42.06 | JustinP | well...I don't see the 2.95 toolchain in your PATH but that shouldn't cause that error |
| 07:42.57 | abm_y4k | oh I found this: ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95" |
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| 07:43.10 | abm_y4k | maybe this is the causes |
| 07:43.26 | JustinP | no, that shouldn't cause a problem |
| 07:43.27 | abm_y4k | hm nope, still give me the same error |
| 07:43.32 | JustinP | not that error anyway |
| 07:43.49 | JustinP | and you need that ASSUME_PROVIDED and that toolchain if you're building a 2.4 embeddix kernel |
| 07:44.04 | JustinP | you may also want to set up your PYTHONPATH |
| 07:44.09 | JustinP | export PYTHONPATH="/home/papercrane/oe/bitbake/lib:$PYTHONPATH" |
| 07:44.25 | JustinP | it could be a problem in your local.conf |
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| 07:47.43 | abm_y4k | will this a problem: NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available.? |
| 07:49.02 | abm_y4k | the error above does not always show up, only on some .bb files |
| 07:49.34 | JustinP | you don't need Psycho, but it can make it faster |
| 07:49.41 | JustinP | if you get those parse errors you have a problem |
| 07:50.35 | abm_y4k | do you think bitbake version problem? |
| 07:51.31 | abm_y4k | same error: unparsed line: 'pkg_postinst_${PN} () |
| 07:51.47 | abm_y4k | something about this pkg_postinst function |
| 07:51.50 | JustinP | do you have the newest version from svn? |
| 07:52.23 | abm_y4k | I did this: svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake |
| 07:52.35 | JustinP | ok |
| 07:52.47 | JustinP | perhaps you need to set your PYTHONPATH as well? |
| 07:53.00 | abm_y4k | echo PYTHONPATH is empty |
| 07:54.54 | abm_y4k | I did a little tweak to python, I have manually install Python 2.4.1 and my python version was previously 2.2 on FC1, will this cause the problem? |
| 07:55.29 | JustinP | I don't know |
| 07:55.45 | JustinP | I suggest you set your pythonpath to include yout bitbake directory |
| 07:55.58 | JustinP | and it could eb a conflict of python versions as well.... |
| 07:56.02 | JustinP | Jeez...FC1?? |
| 07:56.31 | abm_y4k | Fedora core 1 |
| 07:57.23 | JustinP | I know what it means |
| 07:57.27 | JustinP | aren't they at 4 now? |
| 07:57.33 | emte | yeah |
| 07:58.07 | emte | update is a matter of perspective |
| 07:58.42 | abm_y4k | haha yeah, |
| 07:58.56 | emte | you can still manually compiel and keep your system "updated" |
| 07:58.57 | abm_y4k | oh well, let me backup my data, and install FC4 than |
| 07:59.15 | JustinP | do you *really* have to re-install to update FC? |
| 07:59.23 | abm_y4k | no |
| 07:59.23 | emte | from fc1 yes |
| 07:59.33 | abm_y4k | emte: reallY? |
| 07:59.37 | emte | there is a problem between fc1 and fc2 |
| 07:59.43 | abm_y4k | arrrr |
| 08:00.11 | JustinP | wheeee |
| 08:00.20 | emte | or atleast it still existed the last time i tried to update my gf's system |
| 08:00.49 | abm_y4k | how about go straight to fc4 from fc1? |
| 08:00.54 | emte | which i should reinstall one day ... |
| 08:01.40 | emte | i doubt you can, or that the time is well spent |
| 08:01.47 | abm_y4k | reinstall time :( |
| 08:01.55 | emte | would be faster to reinstall |
| 08:02.01 | abm_y4k | thanks for the help all :) |
| 08:02.05 | abm_y4k | bibi |
| 08:02.22 | abm_y4k | I'll be back!~~ |
| 08:02.27 | emte | would take many many hours to update that far |
| 08:02.45 | emte | and maybe 30min-1 hour to reinstall |
| 08:02.47 | abm_y4k | yea, simply re-install better for me :) |
| 08:04.33 | emte | anyone ever use MS's UNIX Services? |
| 08:12.13 | emte | yeah i need to update mysystem cept its a big one this time |
| 08:12.20 | emte | libc and glibc |
| 08:12.40 | JustinP | ::shrug:: just start it and go to sleep |
| 08:12.48 | JustinP | thena revdep-rebuild |
| 08:12.51 | emte | updating those in any fashion makes me a bit nervous |
| 08:13.05 | JustinP | I have had no issues with the last few on my system |
| 08:13.15 | JustinP | 'night |
| 08:13.18 | emte | night |
| 08:16.12 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: have you heard of this driver spectrum24t-1.03_cf.tar.gz |
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| 09:15.35 | AvengerMoJo | hum ... |
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| 09:23.42 | AvengerMoJo | JustinP: any idea what they are talking about I'm using the exact card http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12949&hl=cwb1000 |
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| 09:31.27 | zecke | hey guys I'm taking a OE hiatus |
| 09:31.36 | zecke | Justin pissed me off just too much |
| 09:32.48 | ZonE-HaKin9 | anyone having probs building 3.5.4 opie-mediaplayer1 ?? twice its failded on meta-opie |
| 09:33.48 | alan|home | mmm... "NOTE: package module-init-tools-cross-3.1: failed" AND "ERROR: Build of module-init-tools-3.2-pre7 failed"... what did i do wrong ? |
| 09:35.09 | zecke | alan|home: what about checking the logs? |
| 09:43.59 | alan|home | zecke: i'm a bit lost with all this. I'm doing my best to understand how everything work, but it's difficult : computering is not my default formation. Here is the first error : http://pastebin.ca/22501 and here is the second : http://pastebin.ca/22564. Do you think you could explain me what i did wrong and let me find the correct thing to do myself ? |
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| 09:46.06 | zecke | alan|home: Just to understand my reasoning. I think this is FreeSoftware and we're all here to improve our skills |
| 09:46.18 | zecke | alan|home: from your first log, what could be the error? |
| 09:46.27 | zecke | alan|home: at least on which line is the error? |
| 09:46.53 | zecke | alan|home: the second error looks weird though |
| 09:48.08 | alan|home | zecke: i'm i right thinking the main error is "ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting" ? |
| 09:48.50 | zecke | alan|home: let us start with the first log |
| 09:49.02 | zecke | alan|home: as a said the second (TaskFailed) looks weird anyway |
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| 09:51.45 | alan|home | zecke: i see in the first log "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc". is my /usr/bin/ld version out dated ? i don't even know what ld is used for... |
| 09:53.56 | zecke | alan|home: ld is the linker |
| 09:54.06 | zecke | alan|home: on linking 'libc' is not found |
| 09:54.11 | zecke | whatever libc is ;) |
| 09:55.02 | zecke | alan|home: do you do parallel make? |
| 09:55.52 | alan|home | zecke: no. |
| 09:56.43 | gridzero | alan|home: what distribution are you using for compiling - you may be missing the native libc static libs |
| 09:57.15 | alan|home | mandriva 2005 (newbie distro ; ) ) |
| 09:58.37 | zecke | yeah that could be the case |
| 09:58.54 | gridzero | alan|home: nothing wrong with mandriva, I'm using it too... give me a sec to find out what the package you need is called... |
| 10:01.03 | gridzero | alan|home: as root, do a "urpmi glibc-static-devel" |
| 10:03.10 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcd0746b7... 10/packages/tslib/tslib/ts.conf-h2200: packages/tslib/tslib/ts.conf-h2200: remove linear-h2200 module since we can do that in hardware now |
| 10:04.50 | alan|home | gridzero: you are right. this package was not installed. |
| 10:06.03 | alan|home | zecke: from the first log, how did you find libc was missing ? |
| 10:07.53 | gridzero | alan|home: right at the end, the last thing it reported (before bitbake did it's cleanup reporting - the NOTE: and ERROR: lines) shows the thing that failed... |
| 10:14.18 | alan|home | ok, i've tried the second command once more but it returns the same error. let's try the bitbake gpe-image. |
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| 10:15.39 | alan|home | haaaa... NOTE: package module-init-tools-cross-3.1: completed. thanks guys !! |
| 10:17.51 | alan|home | about 3.2-pre7, i know hrw has a correction to submitt but he didn't have time to do it yesterday. |
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| 10:42.53 | koen | zecke: did you manage to find out if project fluff can use Qt? |
| 10:44.58 | zecke | koen: not yet |
| 10:45.18 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.30 | zecke | koen: but Qtopia could not be seen |
| 10:45.57 | zecke | koen: I guess Qtopia has that no competition clause, otherwise it would have been hard for Motorola to build a phone |
| 10:46.09 | zecke | koen: and for Mizi as well.. |
| 10:46.53 | zecke | koen: I hate my gal (hi al...), she has the simpad power plug (actually only one part)... |
| 10:47.02 | zecke | and I wanted to do SIMpad hacking today |
| 10:47.34 | zecke | koen: FLUFF should have a SyncML client implementation |
| 10:47.57 | alan|home | NOTE: fetch http://www.oesources.org/source/current/spitz_base_extras-r1.patch;patch=1 |
| 10:47.57 | alan|home | --12:29:31-- http://www.oesources.org/source/current/spitz_base_extras-r1.patch |
| 10:47.57 | alan|home | 12:29:33 ERREUR 404: Not Found. I don't know what file calls it, but r1 seems to have been replaced by r2 (availiable here http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/ for example) |
| 10:48.01 | koen | the libsyncml from opensync can do that |
| 10:50.49 | zecke | koen: right ;) |
| 10:51.23 | zecke | alan|home: okay some sort of kernel, try updating your monotone checkout |
| 10:51.29 | zecke | alan|home: or wait until RP wakes up |
| 10:51.48 | alan|home | zecke: ok. |
| 10:52.46 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7869c62d... 10/packages/gnome/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:52.46 | CIA-9 | packages/gnome/ : add most of the gnome 2.12 platform |
| 10:52.47 | CIA-9 | * gnome-keyring 0.4.4 |
| 10:52.47 | CIA-9 | * libgnome 2.12.0.1 |
| 10:52.47 | CIA-9 | * libgnome-canvas 2.12.0 |
| 10:52.47 | CIA-9 | * gnome-vfs 2.12.0 |
| 10:53.05 | zecke | lol QtE4 can not be cross compiled... |
| 10:53.07 | zecke | idiots |
| 10:54.19 | zecke | koen: hehe |
| 11:15.54 | zecke | hrw|gone: is libetpan compiling for you? |
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| 11:44.15 | zecke | ljp: will QtE4 ever compile? |
| 11:44.40 | zecke | ljp: most qscreens are not compiling (vnc works though) |
| 11:44.52 | zecke | ljp: not even Transformed is doing? What is that preview good for? |
| 11:45.07 | zecke | ljp: should I lend Trolltech my Sharp Zaurus to have an ARM device to test on? |
| 11:46.43 | zecke | ljp: and sorry you receive my bashing ;) |
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| 12:03.56 | BigAl | Is there any way to rebuild the Packages file in the deploy/ipk directory when you compile some new packages with OE? |
| 12:08.22 | zecke | BigAl: ipkg-make-index? |
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| 12:12.06 | BigAl | zecke: Thanks. |
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| 12:38.32 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3601ab55... 10/packages/gnome/libgnomeui_2.12.0.bb: packages/gnome/libgnomeui_2.12.0.bb: add 2.12.0 |
| 12:38.36 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1523881c... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-vfs_2.12.0.bb: packages/gnome/gnome-vfs_2.12.0.bb: stage more headers |
| 12:38.40 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc7bea0f3... 10/packages/gail/gail_1.8.5.bb: packages/gail/gail_1.8.5.bb: add gail 1.8.5 |
| 12:41.11 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r22f5c9d8... 10/packages/libidl/ (libidl-native_0.8.6.bb libidl_0.8.6.bb): packages/libidl/ : add 0.8.6 and -native 0.8.6 |
| 12:43.41 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r429a948e... 10/packages/libglade/ (3 files in 2 dirs): packages/libglade/libglade_2.5.1.bb: add 2.5.1 and patches |
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| 13:22.24 | Disconnect | BigAl: fyi there is a 'package-index' bitbake target that also updates the Packages file. |
| 13:25.14 | koen | ~lart xfce people for messing up autotools |
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| 13:26.42 | BigAl | Disconnect: thanks, I'll give that a try |
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| 13:46.03 | Disconnect | is anyone else having issues with building gcc-cross-3.4.4-r2? |
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| 13:47.42 | koen | I sense you have an outdated OE tree |
| 13:47.50 | koen | since we are at r3 now |
| 13:47.57 | Disconnect | hmm. updated this morning. |
| 13:49.48 | Disconnect | reran update, no changes.. |
| 13:50.15 | koen | you have to pull first |
| 13:50.36 | Disconnect | yah, did. got an update script that pulls and updates. |
| 13:52.08 | koen | oops |
| 13:52.18 | Disconnect | according to cia.navi.cx the newest changes are present (libglade stuff) |
| 13:52.18 | koen | gcc is at r3, gcc cross is at r2 |
| 13:52.26 | Disconnect | pthtth. ;) |
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| 13:58.18 | Disconnect | what I -should- do is put linux-ppc64 on the spare g5 and do my builds there. but someone wants to talk about buying it today, so.. ugh. decisions.. |
| 14:00.50 | lardman|work | afternoon all |
| 14:28.54 | alan|home | yop yop lardman|work |
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| 14:56.29 | Disconnect | wow. watching "task do_compile: started" is really boring ;) |
| 14:59.52 | NAiL | esp. on glibc |
| 15:00.17 | koen | luckily do_package is a bit more verbose |
| 15:00.50 | NAiL | Someone should modify the bbclass to have a dancing stickman there ;) |
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| 15:01.30 | hrw | hi |
| 15:01.37 | NAiL | ooh.. ot stickmen fighting! :P |
| 15:01.37 | koen | hey hrw |
| 15:01.53 | hrw | RP: ping |
| 15:02.59 | zecke | hrw: hey |
| 15:03.19 | zecke | hrw: I've a compile issue with libetpan, it can't find a header. did you see such thing before? |
| 15:04.11 | hrw | zecke: libetpan 0.38? |
| 15:04.29 | hrw | zecke: does gnutls was built? |
| 15:08.35 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbff5eb1b... 10/packages/libxslt/libxslt_1.1.8.bb: packages/libxslt/libxslt_1.1.8.bb: add libxslt 1.1.8 |
| 15:09.44 | zecke | hrw: yes |
| 15:10.06 | zecke | IIRC libetpan_mimetypes.h was not found, but I did not 'find' for it |
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| 15:11.24 | hrw | zecke: I did not make a whole build with new libetpan - it works with my old one. |
| 15:11.28 | koen | which file do I want to edit: Makefile.in or Makefile.am? |
| 15:12.24 | pb_ | irrespective of what you might want, Makefile.am is the better one to edit. |
| 15:13.24 | koen | thanks |
| 15:14.06 | koen | lets see if I can get libxml2 2.6.21 to compile |
| 15:16.31 | lardman|work | hi hrw, how's cpufreq working for you? |
| 15:16.45 | hrw | lardman|work: good |
| 15:16.51 | lardman|work | hrw: cool |
| 15:17.14 | hrw | lardman|work: on resume it take some time for touchscreen to respond (or for opie) |
| 15:17.46 | lardman|work | hrw: I'm just flashing opie now, but on gpe it was fine (though I had a 1/2sec delay anyway with kernel messages, etc.) |
| 15:18.20 | hrw | lardman|work: which mode of cpufreq you use? I switched to 'ondemand' so it mostly works on 100MHz |
| 15:20.48 | lardman|work | hrw: yes I'm using ondemand too. powersave is very slow - always runs at 100MHz, I'm going to try cpufreqd or cpuspeed with userspace (or whatever the name is) |
| 15:23.44 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * re38d675c... 10/packages/ (11 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:23.45 | CIA-9 | Update Qt3 from Qt3.3.x to Qt3.3.5 |
| 15:23.45 | CIA-9 | packages/qt/qt-x11-free-native: |
| 15:23.46 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.48 | CIA-9 | packages/qt/qt-x11-free: |
| 15:23.50 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.52 | CIA-9 | packages/qte-fonts-common/qte-fonts-common: |
| 15:26.48 | hrw | cu |
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| 15:48.30 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * re025b5cf... 10/packages/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:48.30 | CIA-9 | Opietooth: |
| 15:48.30 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.30 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.30 | CIA-9 | packages/libopietooth/libopietooth: |
| 15:48.31 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.33 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.22 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re875d5b2... 10/packages/driftnet/driftnet-nogui_0.1.6.bb: packages/driftnet/driftnet-nogui_0.1.6.bb: add the nogui version, courtesy Simon Pickering, closes #318 |
| 15:54.08 | lardman|work | thanks koen |
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| 16:23.01 | zecke | koen|slug: do you know why the Gtk Fileselectors blanks the filename when I switch the directory? |
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| 16:26.43 | koen|slug | zecke: no idea |
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| 16:38.37 | zecke | pb_: can we close #39? |
| 16:40.05 | pb_ | I think so. I didn't check in their glibc stuff, but it seemed pretty bogus and nobody has asked about it again. |
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| 16:42.46 | zecke | okiee dokey |
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| 17:06.42 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4a65e17c... 10/packages/irda-utils/ (irda-utils_0.9.15.bb irda-utils_0.9.16.bb): |
| 17:06.42 | CIA-9 | irda-utils: |
| 17:06.42 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.42 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.42 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.46 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r0734b472... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:06.46 | CIA-9 | KaRo Electronics Triton Board: |
| 17:06.48 | CIA-9 | Apply patches from #316 to add support for the KaRO Triton |
| 17:06.50 | CIA-9 | board to OpenEmbedded. |
| 17:09.15 | koen | zecke: is 'unbuildable' non-working or broken-in-some-but-not-all-configs? |
| 17:11.23 | zecke | koen: some system header is not included with my kernel headers. This leads to a undefined type |
| 17:11.46 | zecke | koen: I figured it might have worked before because /usr/include/linux was picked |
| 17:13.06 | koen | I'm a bigger fan of moving stuff to non-working than putting 'BROKEN=1' into the .bb |
| 17:15.39 | zecke | koen: good thinking |
| 17:15.53 | zecke | koen: do we have a policy on how a file gets out of openembedded? |
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| 17:17.43 | koen | zecke: not really |
| 17:18.27 | koen | atm we have 'BROKEN=1' and non-working/ |
| 17:18.33 | koen | and monotone rm |
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| 17:19.34 | zecke | koen: and the QA features of monotone |
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| 17:20.41 | koen | I'd like a 'monotone cloak <file>' |
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| 17:23.20 | jbowler | monotone rm does that - the file is still in the database |
| 17:23.36 | jbowler | rm just deletes it from the current manifest |
| 17:23.48 | koen | yeah, but I'd like to be able to edit it under revision control |
| 17:24.10 | koen | I bet the monotone people would tell me to branch off |
| 17:24.26 | jbowler | I think you can do that by going back to a revision where the file was present, editing it, then merging |
| 17:25.05 | jbowler | I.e. I don't think you need a branch - just two working trees, edit in the old one, commit (two heads) then merge. |
| 17:25.30 | jbowler | But the merge would probably be annoying... |
| 17:25.57 | koen | I liked the bk way of cset composing |
| 17:25.58 | RP | "morning" all |
| 17:26.03 | koen | hey RP |
| 17:30.00 | lardman|work | hi RP |
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| 17:34.32 | zecke | i need food before continuing doing useful stuff |
| 17:34.56 | zecke | koen: can we run spyce or just python on ewi? |
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| 17:39.54 | koen | mod_python should be installed |
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| 17:50.44 | emte | apt* |
| 17:51.08 | emte | hmm |
| 17:51.31 | emte | lets see what happens if i remove my fglrx drivers while using them |
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| 18:04.29 | pb_ | koen: heh, is "branch off" some kind of new expletive in the monotone world? |
| 18:05.59 | koen | :) |
| 18:18.46 | zecke | I need FOOOD |
| 18:19.07 | pb_ | ! |
| 18:19.24 | zecke | some one call the delivery service, otherwise I'll starve away... |
| 18:24.47 | koen | the musquitos are having planty of food over here |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r31bc55db... 10/packages/gcc/gcc_3.4.4.bb: |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | gcc_3.4.4: fix the native build on ucslugc by using arm, not thumb |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | For some reason a thumb built gcc 3.4.4 fails to produce functional |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | executables even when linked dynamically (i.e. even when next to none |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | of the code in the resultant executable comes from the compiler itself). |
| 18:25.06 | CIA-9 | This requires further investigation (or maybe the csl gcc), this commit |
| 18:25.08 | CIA-9 | changes the build to generate arm even on thumb systems as a temporary fix. |
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| 18:26.20 | CIA-9 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rb3eb9fb1... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ucslugc-packages: add vim and nmap |
| 18:27.12 | koen | jbowler: how big is a ucslugc image nowadays? |
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| 18:32.13 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 18:33.06 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 18:34.00 | gremlin[it] | hi koen !!! |
| 18:44.30 | lardman|work | night all |
| 19:03.52 | Henry78 | hey guys |
| 19:04.19 | Henry78 | i'm trying to build for an arm, and get this error: |
| 19:04.30 | jbowler | koen: ucslugc rootfs is 3MByte (tar archive), 1.57MByte (jffs2 paritition) or 1.1MByte (gzip -9 compressed tar archive). |
| 19:04.31 | Henry78 | | /tmp/oe_cvs_bootstrap_ext2/work/handhelds-pxa-2.6-2.6.12-hh2+cvs20050910-r0/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.2216: line 442: syntax error near unexpected token `'INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP',' |
| 19:04.36 | Henry78 | any clues? |
| 19:05.20 | koen | Henry78: no distro defined? |
| 19:06.08 | Henry78 | set distro to familiar |
| 19:06.22 | jbowler | koen: After boot the jffs2 records the parition as 26% full on a 4112kbyte partition (no file system .ko's though), with reiserfs.ko it comes to 2416kbytes out of 4112kbytes |
| 19:07.03 | koen | Henry78: DISTRO="familiar"? |
| 19:07.10 | koen | jbowler: that's pretty sweet |
| 19:07.14 | Henry78 | DISTRO = "familiar" |
| 19:07.30 | koen | that's wrong |
| 19:07.34 | koen | that doesn't exist |
| 19:07.44 | koen | notice the INVALID stuff OE throws at you |
| 19:08.15 | Henry78 | familiar-distro is correct? |
| 19:08.20 | koen | no |
| 19:08.27 | koen | familiar-0.8.3 |
| 19:08.40 | Henry78 | oh. i see, silly me |
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| 19:08.57 | Henry78 | didn't see any invalid messages... |
| 19:10.48 | koen | the start summary should say distro = INVALID |
| 19:10.52 | jbowler | koen: yes, but it's kinda like just having a kernel - you have to add things to make it useful. |
| 19:10.56 | koen | if not, it's a bug in bitbake |
| 19:11.20 | Henry78 | OE Build Configuration: |
| 19:11.28 | Henry78 | BB_VERSION = "1.3.2" |
| 19:11.36 | Henry78 | OE_REVISION = "429a948ee33ea9ddef7355779e868170fadcff17" |
| 19:11.42 | Henry78 | TARGET_ARCH = "arm" |
| 19:11.50 | Henry78 | TARGET_OS = "linux" |
| 19:11.57 | Henry78 | MACHINE = "ipaq-h22xx-pxa255" |
| 19:12.17 | Henry78 | DISTRO = "familiar" |
| 19:12.30 | koen | that machine is wrong too |
| 19:13.17 | Henry78 | it's my own machine, and already got a version running with this settings |
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| 19:13.22 | koen | if you want to build for a h2200 use h3900 |
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| 19:13.38 | Henry78 | just wondering now, why it worked with "familiar" |
| 19:15.31 | Henry78 | anyways: thanks for correcting me |
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| 19:29.06 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 19:39.43 | zecke | koen: you're lucky I just had food ;) |
| 19:39.49 | zecke | koen: #319 is INVALID ;) |
| 19:41.32 | zecke | koen: if you set KOEN_LITTLE_VARIABLE to "foo" it will be set to foo... |
| 19:51.12 | koen | yeah, but DISTRO needs to reflect the configfile it wants to use |
| 19:51.53 | koen | bitbake's error reporting sucks donkey ass |
| 19:51.53 | zecke | koen: see the bug report ;) |
| 19:51.58 | zecke | koen: right |
| 19:52.17 | zecke | koen: maybe Justin - master of buttbake - will help us ;) |
| 19:56.07 | koen | I just added a comment to the bugreport |
| 19:56.40 | koen | zecke: I'd very much like bitbake/OE to halt, scream and insult when it can't find a file |
| 19:57.05 | zecke | koen: there are valid cases where an include can fail?! |
| 19:57.26 | zecke | koen: so when should we fail? should we create a include_mandantory? |
| 19:57.28 | koen | not that I can think off |
| 19:57.38 | zecke | koen: oh we do |
| 19:58.03 | zecke | koen: I think bitbake.conf tries to load some files |
| 19:58.03 | koen | require <foo> and include <foo> ? |
| 19:58.28 | zecke | pb_: kergoth : any opinion? |
| 20:01.17 | koen | zecke: I vote for a include_optional <foo> |
| 20:01.40 | koen | like auto.conf and site.conf |
| 20:02.54 | zecke | right |
| 20:03.07 | koen | zecke: and it would be nice is the new parser rejects .bb without certain fields (LICENSE, MAINTAINER, etc) |
| 20:03.33 | zecke | INHERIT += "oelint" ? |
| 20:03.55 | koen | ~lart xmllint |
| 20:05.06 | zecke | I'm axing my evening project in favor of another |
| 20:06.44 | koen | working on geekstuff vs drinking beer? |
| 20:07.08 | zecke | working on tinderbox replacement vs. maing bitbake create dot files |
| 20:07.14 | koen | oooh |
| 20:07.19 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.27 | ljp | zecke: I ask myself that also... |
| 20:35.50 | zecke | ljp: None of the QScreens compile for me |
| 20:36.05 | zecke | ljp: QGfx seems killed in favor of one common QRasterEngine? |
| 20:36.18 | zecke | ljp: 9/10 QScreen Implementations refer to QGfx |
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| 20:36.30 | zecke | ljp: and QScreenTransformed is not buildable.. |
| 20:36.49 | zecke | ljp: and it is not cross compilable... |
| 20:36.54 | ljp | here's an excuse: august is holiday month in Norway...?? |
| 20:37.15 | zecke | ljp: good, Mr. Ettrich claims QtE is building for him for ages... |
| 20:37.33 | ljp | default ./configure ;) |
| 20:37.34 | zecke | ljp: but how is your spouse (baby?) |
| 20:37.42 | ljp | tired/tired :) |
| 20:37.59 | ljp | and recovering |
| 20:38.07 | zecke | ljp: good, that is important ;) |
| 20:38.28 | zecke | ljp: who did create the GSM 07.10 multiplexer at TT? |
| 20:38.30 | ljp | i only have one more week to go on my paternity leave |
| 20:38.33 | zecke | ljp: kick him please ;) |
| 20:38.48 | kergoth | paternity leave? |
| 20:38.55 | ljp | ya |
| 20:39.06 | ljp | :) |
| 20:39.28 | ljp | Skyler Caelan Robert Potter |
| 20:41.01 | zecke | ljp: now trying the default configure |
| 20:41.08 | ljp | heh |
| 20:41.44 | zecke | README.configure The script is just provided for the people used to autoconf ;) |
| 20:43.27 | zecke | ljp: I should get some TT shares before you go public... any hints on how to do that? |
| 20:43.44 | woglinde | *g* |
| 20:46.18 | ljp | not going public |
| 20:46.36 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4cc46489... 10/packages/ffmpeg/ (ffmpeg_0.4.9-pre1.bb ffmpeg_cvs.bb): |
| 20:46.37 | CIA-4 | ffmpeg: |
| 20:46.37 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.37 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.58 | zecke | ljp: within the next couple of.... |
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| 20:47.56 | ljp | zecke: only way is to become a TT employee |
| 20:48.00 | zecke | ljp: Do you need help making QtE work? Or porting it to WinCE? |
| 20:48.11 | zecke | ljp: do part time people get shares as well? |
| 20:48.16 | ljp | ya, patches welcome :) |
| 20:48.23 | ljp | nope |
| 20:48.28 | zecke | that does not give me any shares ;) |
| 21:23.15 | zecke | ljp: I was at IFA, and it was funny that the Qtopia based Archos device was the only one not working/running |
| 21:23.31 | zecke | ljp: they had four devices and all were powered off at the evening |
| 21:23.46 | zecke | ljp: in the morning at least one had a bootsplash ;) |
| 21:27.14 | ljp | thats because someone put 'security' device that contained a very strong magnet and messed up the harddrive |
| 21:27.38 | ljp | has nothing to do with qtopia |
| 21:29.40 | zecke | why did the other disk based devices work? and if this is known, why do they showcase it? |
| 21:30.19 | ljp | couldnt tell you |
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| 22:59.55 | zecke | good nite |
| 23:00.07 | emte | night |
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| 23:24.55 | mreimer_ | hello all |
| 23:31.08 | mreimer_ | I'm trying to figure out how to build a python module (sword) with swig that needs to link against libsword. How do I do that with a .bb? |
| 23:31.37 | mreimer_ | If I try to do it by hand, I get errors like, "checking if you have Sword 1.5.7 or later... cat: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/oe/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libc.so.6: ELF file OS ABI invalid" |
| 23:32.56 | mreimer_ | which makes sense, since I told it to try to link against the arm version and configure tries to link/run the wrong version... |
| 23:38.43 | JustinP | mreimer_: so make a bb file for the things you need |
| 23:48.16 | mreimer_ | JustinP: that's the part I don't understand :-( |
| 23:48.34 | mreimer_ | is there a document somewhere that explains how to create a bb? |