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| 00:25.10 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | This is not a distribution support channel | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | monotone.vanille.de down for maintenance |
| 00:31.03 | rwhitby | monotone.nslu2-linux.org has a scheduled 1 hour outage at the moment. |
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| 01:02.20 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | rwhitby: ok thanx i'll try again l8r but i was having probs with all the servers... |
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| 02:21.53 | Marsupilami23 | Has anyone found a fix for having root on SD, when it crashes it can't read anything on the SD card? |
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| 03:03.45 | dominate | hey all |
| 03:08.05 | dominate | i was hoping to get some help.... i've been trying to build the latest OE and keep getting stuck in module-init-tools-cross-3.1-r3. |
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| 04:26.13 | emte | moo |
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| 06:26.47 | ZonE-HaKin9|wrk | l8r All going home time ;) |
| 06:36.09 | emte | hmm |
| 06:36.13 | emte | buttons and maybe battery tomorrow ... |
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| 07:14.41 | RP | morning all |
| 07:14.57 | _law_ | morning |
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| 07:37.05 | subdue | if anyone is interested: For one day only, you can get an ad-free version of Opera. Simply e-mail registerme@opera.com to obtain a registration code. This offer is valid from 12 a.m. Tuesday, August 30 to 12 a.m. Wednesday, August 31 2005 (PDT). |
| 07:52.08 | _law_ | subdue: no joke? |
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| 08:10.39 | giel_ | hey |
| 08:10.49 | giel_ | anyone has any idea what causes this: |
| 08:10.59 | giel_ | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (0133/2681) [ 4 %]ERROR: 'dict' object has no attribute 'getVar' while parsing /home/nlv09242/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gpe-helpviewer/gpe-helpviewer_1.0.bb |
| 08:11.10 | giel_ | i suspect something with ${PN}, but not sure what/why |
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| 08:15.43 | RP | giel_: Is your version of bitbake up to date? |
| 08:16.44 | RP | Alternatively koen changed that package recently so maybe he broke it :) |
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| 08:25.41 | subdue | no joke. it's their 10th anniversary |
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| 08:34.01 | giel_ | RP: i use bb 1.3.2 |
| 08:34.19 | giel_ | RP: and i don't think it's the package, 'cause this error is followed by more which look the same |
| 08:40.40 | giel_ | hm, is python 2.3 supposed to work, or do i need 2.4? |
| 08:40.49 | _law_ | subdue: got the free reg-codes thanks for the info |
| 08:45.42 | subdue | np |
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| 09:26.01 | rwhitby-away | pb_: are you the debian arm port maintainer ? |
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| 09:43.34 | pb_ | rwhitby: no; I think that would be wookey. |
| 09:44.03 | rwhitby | pb_: thx - I'm raising my questions in #debian-arm |
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| 09:51.13 | sirfred | Good morning |
| 09:53.07 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:53.38 | sirfred | hrw|work: Morning |
| 09:55.13 | hrw|work | mickey|zzZZzz: bitbake shell lack "build -k" |
| 09:55.44 | koen|slug | and build app otherapp anotherapp |
| 09:55.50 | hrw|work | koen|slug: it has it |
| 09:55.59 | hrw|work | iirc |
| 09:56.12 | koen|slug | you can do build foo* |
| 09:56.21 | koen|slug | but not 'build foo1 foo2' |
| 09:56.46 | hrw|work | but can "build foo;build foo2" atleast |
| 09:57.00 | koen|slug | yes |
| 09:57.10 | koen|slug | but I want build foo1 && build foo2 |
| 09:57.30 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2df03676... 10/packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_cvs.bb: libmimedir: add upstream source |
| 09:59.08 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * recf0ce2f... 10/packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_cvs.bb: libmimedir_cvs: default_preference = -1 |
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| 10:01.30 | dan2003_ | hi, isthere a way to build oe toolchain as 32bit instead if 64, cos bluez package always fails to build on my 64bit machine, whereas it all builds ok on my laptop ehich is 32bit |
| 10:02.05 | hrw|work | ~lart bitbake |
| 10:02.06 | hrw|work | ~lart bitbake shell |
| 10:02.25 | koen|slug | dan2003_: 'linux32 bitbake foo' |
| 10:02.42 | hrw|work | bbsh lack "build -k", bitbake lack "*some*" build feature |
| 10:03.05 | dan2003_ | koen, thanks, i'll give that a whirl |
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| 10:03.38 | koen|slug | dan2003_: that will make uname pretend to be on a 32 bit system |
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| 10:05.23 | dan2003_ | i have to do ranlib on a ppp lib and start over at the ppp stage aslo, is that normal? |
| 10:05.37 | dan2003_ | it carroes on after that |
| 10:25.11 | XorA | morning |
| 10:26.53 | koen|slug | hey XorA |
| 10:27.23 | hrw|work | XorA: hi |
| 10:29.22 | Loial | dan2003_: you mean bluez-utils-nodbus which errors out with LONG_MAX undefined? |
| 10:30.24 | dan2003_ | Loial, i do indeed |
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| 10:31.11 | dan2003_ | just had the linux32 attempt die in a whole diiferent way, will try again after removing .ccache |
| 10:31.50 | dan2003_ | /tmp/ccyCMp9w.s:779: Error: invalid constant -- `bic r3,r3,#-4294967296' |
| 10:31.50 | dan2003_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.19 | Loial | dan2003_: have the same, can't get my head around that error, so far it's the only package that fails. ASSUME_PROVIDED does wonders tho :) |
| 10:35.17 | dan2003_ | i'll give that a try then ;) |
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| 10:50.26 | alan | hi ! |
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| 11:42.05 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
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| 11:53.16 | hrw|work | 2.6.13 released.. I'm waiting for 2.6.13-mm1 then |
| 11:53.17 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 11:53.26 | lardman | hi hrw|work |
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| 11:53.34 | hrw|work | hi RP |
| 11:54.08 | RP | hi hrw|work |
| 11:54.21 | lardman | I flashed a GPE image from yesterday and the system info applet tells me I have 32MB memory on my C750 |
| 11:54.42 | koen|slug | what does /proc/meminfo say? |
| 11:54.58 | lardman | I was just about to ask what I should look at, hang on a tick |
| 11:55.00 | sirfred | RP: Hi. |
| 11:55.23 | RP | hi sirfred |
| 11:55.29 | lardman | koen|slug: slight problem, left my Z charging on my desk at home :( |
| 11:56.06 | koen|slug | heh |
| 11:56.13 | XorA | hey RP |
| 11:56.32 | RP | Hopefully I'm back to some kind of server stability. No idea what got into it... |
| 11:56.34 | XorA | RP: your last kernel change said something abotu a c7x0 charging bug? any more details |
| 11:56.46 | lardman | koen|slug: I may pop home this arvo, so I'll take a look then. BTW what's a slug? |
| 11:57.31 | koen|slug | lardman: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/images/linksys_nslu2.gif |
| 11:57.38 | koen|slug | see http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/newsletters/ooo-newsletter-200508/ |
| 11:57.45 | RP | XorA: mickeyl was able to have it autosuspend when he pulled the charger out due to a nasty race bug - probably only affected shepherd but I've fixed it for all of us and removed the pointless autosuspend |
| 11:58.13 | lardman | koen|slug: Cool :) |
| 11:58.14 | XorA | RP: ah, I foudn that on c860, didnt get chance to tell you |
| 11:58.42 | RP | XorA: Its fixed now anyway. Funny my devices didn't show it up... |
| 11:59.16 | XorA | RP: Its something that the old sharp kernel used to do, and did it to yesterday, but as I was shutting down for the night |
| 12:00.32 | RP | XorA: Its due to the way the status interrupts are generated by the charging controller the devices use. We can work around it in software though |
| 12:04.08 | RP | CoreDump|afk: Did you see my message about akita 2.6 kernel testers? |
| 12:05.51 | lardman | Out of interest, does Perl build these days? |
| 12:07.25 | koen|slug | lardman: it does |
| 12:07.30 | koen|slug | and it even works! |
| 12:07.32 | lardman | koen|slug: Thanks |
| 12:07.40 | koen|slug | 5.8.7 is the one |
| 12:31.29 | DaKa | yep, perl (5.8.7) works nowdays, but the rdepends between the inidvidual 850+ module packages are a bit flawed, the ones that are there are correct, just a few missing on some |
| 12:34.38 | XorA | damn, we are missing a step, pdaXrom people think we sell OE built distribs |
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| 12:35.46 | XorA | morning mickeyl |
| 12:35.54 | gremlin[it] | morning mickeyl |
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| 12:38.00 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 12:40.29 | RP | morning mickeyl |
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| 13:02.02 | [cc]smart | hi, shall remove AS and CFG qio schedulers to react on bug #41 ? |
| 13:02.02 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 13:02.41 | hrw|work | XorA: where? |
| 13:02.48 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 13:04.05 | RP | [cc]smart: We're currently using CFQ as default aren't we? |
| 13:04.11 | [cc]smart | can bugs #110 and #111 get closed ? |
| 13:04.22 | [cc]smart | would be surprised.... |
| 13:04.26 | [cc]smart | lemme see |
| 13:05.36 | [cc]smart | all are compiled in actually, so prolly it's AS |
| 13:05.50 | [cc]smart | some of your running OZ kernel 2.6 ? |
| 13:07.02 | [cc]smart | in any case, reduction would be sensible. |
| 13:07.44 | [cc]smart | since AS and CFQ are heavyweight compared to DEADLINE and i would not expect any advantage on flash from the others it hink DEADLINE is the best choice |
| 13:07.51 | [cc]smart | we used it on slug |
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| 13:08.32 | [cc]smart | s/used/use/ |
| 13:08.44 | mickeyl | hi pb, hrw |
| 13:09.22 | hrw|work | mickeyl: seen that RSS reader for qtopia? http://corsair.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:09.59 | [cc]smart | ok, other way round. who would complain if i'd remove AS and CFQ ? |
| 13:10.05 | XorA | hrw|work: same company, not the IT Manager |
| 13:10.07 | mickeyl | [cc]smart: 110 and 111 can be closed |
| 13:10.14 | XorA | hrw|work: s/not/now |
| 13:10.52 | mickeyl | [cc]smart: if RP has no objection, I'd say lets try to remove all but one and see if we chose the right sheduler :) |
| 13:11.04 | hrw|work | XorA: where they write that? |
| 13:11.31 | mickeyl | hrw|work: never seen that. interesting... |
| 13:11.41 | mickeyl | hrw|work: no source though |
| 13:12.14 | mickeyl | hrw|work: ah, it's in the sf.net cvs. want to have a go at adding it? |
| 13:12.43 | [cc]smart | mickeyl: ah, wouldn't suggest that. leave NOOP and DEADLINE in and it should be fine. |
| 13:12.55 | mickeyl | [cc]smart: ok with me |
| 13:13.00 | hrw|work | mickeyl: maybe will look into |
| 13:13.05 | XorA | hrw|work: I think I am confused between channels |
| 13:13.27 | [cc]smart | RP: your word |
| 13:13.53 | XorA | hrw|work:http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14427&st=75 near end of thread |
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| 13:15.05 | hrw|work | XorA: thx |
| 13:15.21 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can bbsh get "build -k" command? |
| 13:16.11 | mickeyl | hrw|work: add it to bugzilla, i'll think about it |
| 13:16.26 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:17.09 | koen|slug | XorA: also note how they immediately confuse OE and OZ |
| 13:17.26 | RP | [cc]smart: I don't know enough about it have a preference one way or another. We should probably consider that not all of our IO is flash based. We also access CF, SD and microdrives... |
| 13:18.05 | XorA | koen|slug: as always |
| 13:18.21 | XorA | koen|slug: rename to ozXrom and it be simpler |
| 13:19.04 | koen|slug | XorA: chmod -w / -R |
| 13:19.06 | [cc]smart | RP: DEADLINE supports these, too. What you could say to describe the difference in between e.g. AS and DEADLINE is that DEADLINE risks more headmovement but under non concurrent load reacts faster. |
| 13:19.30 | [cc]smart | AS tries to reduce headmovement |
| 13:19.35 | koen|slug | RP: psst: sd and cf are flash too |
| 13:19.51 | XorA | koen|slug: cf can be HD |
| 13:20.04 | koen|slug | XorA: those are called microdrives |
| 13:20.18 | koen|slug | and RP mentioned them separately |
| 13:20.20 | hrw|work | cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused |
| 13:20.21 | [cc]smart | on the slug it's quite common to attach USB HD and nobody complained about deadline scheduler :) |
| 13:20.22 | XorA | koen|slug: or pcmcia sleds |
| 13:20.24 | hrw|work | ARGH |
| 13:20.37 | hrw|work | XorA: or usb drives |
| 13:21.05 | RP | koen|slug: At the driver level SD and CF are significantly different to raw flash |
| 13:21.13 | koen|slug | I know |
| 13:21.18 | koen|slug | but it still flash |
| 13:21.19 | mickeyl | hrw|work: just retry. anon connections are limited |
| 13:21.23 | hrw|work | yep |
| 13:22.50 | [cc]smart | RP: so do, don't, or you want more info ? |
| 13:23.42 | koen|slug | can the powers that be modify http://oe.handhelds.org/success.php with the info in http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/SuccesStories ? |
| 13:23.52 | RP | [cc]smart: let me try and research it for 10 minutes |
| 13:24.00 | [cc]smart | i can help you find URLs |
| 13:24.04 | [cc]smart | on me way |
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| 13:27.19 | [cc]smart | ah now that i see it.. it's important to use more relatively recent comparisons in between schedulers... say age < 1 year |
| 13:28.31 | hrw|work | ~lart cvs.sf.net |
| 13:31.15 | mickeyl | koen: success stories now links to the wiki. |
| 13:31.38 | [cc]smart | heh... have a very fast downloading URL here: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/block |
| 13:36.48 | RP | [cc]smart: Ok, I see no benefit from the schedulers for any device except spitz. Make as and cfq modular for those platforms. For spitz, we leave them in as in theory, AS does bring some benefits... |
| 13:37.07 | RP | (spitz has an internal microdrive) |
| 13:38.37 | [cc]smart | will do |
| 13:39.22 | mickeyl | how do we switch @ runtime between the schedulers? |
| 13:39.53 | [cc]smart | there has been a patch not so long ago to allow that, but iirc you need /sys for that |
| 13:40.47 | [cc]smart | that aptch is in kernel |
| 13:40.48 | RP | mickeyl: look in /sys/block/someblockdev/queue/scheduler |
| 13:41.17 | RP | [cc]smart: We have sysfs and can change at will and per device |
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| 13:44.38 | mickeyl | cool |
| 13:47.11 | RP | jffs3 was a mad bandwagon everyone jumped on. It was only an experiment |
| 13:47.45 | koen|slug | the good news is jffs2 will see some improvements |
| 13:48.53 | koen|slug | mickeyl: any news from the CELF people? |
| 13:49.22 | mickeyl | koen|slug: no, i haven't been in contact with 'em yet |
| 13:49.28 | mickeyl | in fact, never. |
| 13:50.54 | RP | There was a post on the oe mailing list from them |
| 13:51.39 | koen|slug | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TestFarmProject |
| 13:51.44 | koen|slug | mithro and pb_ |
| 13:52.33 | koen|slug | "Open Embedded may represent the closest thing there is to a de-facto standard embedded distribution of Linux." |
| 13:52.38 | koen|slug | (http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/OpenEmbedded) |
| 13:56.57 | mickeyl | not bad, apart from the fact that OE is not a distribtion |
| 13:58.19 | pb_ | "OpenEmbedded is the name of a project which seeks to provide embedded linux distributions, built from scratch." |
| 13:58.22 | pb_ | sounds pretty accurate to me |
| 13:58.45 | pb_ | obviously that's not _all_ that openembedded provides, but still. |
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| 14:01.20 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:01.37 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 14:01.50 | hrw|work | hi kergoth |
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| 14:07.09 | mithro | anyone know how to create an ISO image from a "broken" cd under linux? |
| 14:07.13 | mithro | dd doesn't work :/ |
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| 14:07.37 | koen|slug | mithro: maybe with cdparanoia? |
| 14:07.53 | mithro | thats for music? |
| 14:08.07 | koen|slug | I've only used it on audio cds |
| 14:08.16 | koen|slug | no idea if it works on data cds |
| 14:08.57 | [cc]smart | RP: shall i in this case on spitz make AS compiled in and the others modular ? |
| 14:11.05 | RP | [cc]smart: No, just leave it for now - I'll try and do some benchmarking on that device |
| 14:11.28 | RP | [cc]smart: Mark the bug closed though - I'll just keep in mind I need to sort spitz out |
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| 14:17.33 | [cc]smart | will close it after it runs :) |
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| 14:27.12 | LoDown | hey...if i found a typo in a .bb file, what do I do? |
| 14:27.48 | LoDown | like, do submit a bug report, or what? |
| 14:28.34 | hrw|work | LoDown: exactly - with a patch |
| 14:29.29 | LoDown | ok, well...i'll figure out how to make a patch then..it was kidna a stupid error, a patch file name was referenced wrong... |
| 14:31.50 | gb2 | wow, monotone sure is slow |
| 14:36.31 | kergoth | gb2: indeed |
| 14:38.25 | koen|slug | If I got a dollar everytime people said that.... |
| 14:38.35 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:38.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:39.01 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, maybe that *is* their plan |
| 14:41.53 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdeeec139... 10/packages/gaim/ (19 files in 2 dirs): gaim: update packages/gaim as per bug #273 |
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| 14:42.43 | koen|slug | LoDown: monotone pull :) |
| 14:43.09 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57a2e56a... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.65.bb: gpe-session-scripts 0.65: fix patch URI, closes bug #275 |
| 14:45.13 | koen|slug | mickeyl: if we raise $500/month we can lock a russian dude in closet to do fulltime OE dev ;) |
| 14:45.21 | kergoth | haha |
| 14:45.49 | LoDown | i'm in :-D |
| 14:46.16 | CosmicPenguin | 500 a month? |
| 14:46.40 | dan2003_ | baah!! what muppet env vars have i got casuing this? | /home/mango/oe/oetmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libc.so when searching for -lc |
| 14:46.54 | CosmicPenguin | I can swing 500 a month |
| 14:47.02 | dan2003_ | /usr/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: File format not recognized |
| 14:48.04 | koen|slug | CosmicPenguin: that's what the pdaX dude is asking for |
| 14:48.12 | koen|slug | otherwise he has to get a job to pay for food |
| 14:48.46 | CosmicPenguin | heh - too bad I don't care about pdaX development, or he would have a gig |
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| 14:49.36 | XorA | if only they werent such isolationists |
| 14:49.54 | LoDown | i have a question... |
| 14:50.09 | CIA-15 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0b1e74a1... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.65.bb: gpe-session-scripts: Fix typo. |
| 14:50.11 | LoDown | if you perform a pull in the middle of a compilation...say something breaks like happened to me... |
| 14:50.24 | LoDown | how much (if any) consequences will that have? |
| 14:51.01 | koen|slug | LoDown: not much |
| 14:51.11 | LoDown | i found another problem... |
| 14:51.13 | koen|slug | bitbake caches the metadate before starting the build |
| 14:51.23 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r80321922... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: update gpe-login and gpe-session-scripts |
| 14:51.33 | LoDown | right, so do I need to blow my cache for the new bb's to take effect? |
| 14:51.46 | koen|slug | or 'touch conf/local.conf' |
| 14:51.53 | LoDown | ok |
| 14:51.58 | LoDown | that is easier... |
| 14:52.07 | dan2003_ | anybody know why pcre is trying to link against my system libs? ie /usr/lib/libc.so |
| 14:52.11 | LoDown | i found a problem with the header paths for mininet... |
| 14:52.20 | LoDown | should I submit a bug report? |
| 14:53.03 | koen|slug | yes |
| 14:53.08 | LoDown | ok :-D |
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| 14:57.43 | LoDown | ok...another bug :-D |
| 15:16.50 | koen|slug | what would happen if RMK decided to run the arm-linux site on an OE based distro? |
| 15:17.49 | [cc]smart | the installation would become famous for the fastet site ever DOSd by normal operation i guess |
| 15:17.51 | [cc]smart | :) |
| 15:18.30 | [cc]smart | methinks you need some piece of HW for that |
| 15:18.37 | emte | any of you use opera? |
| 15:19.07 | hrw|work | emte: I - already free registered |
| 15:19.36 | emte | yeah, wasnt sure if anyone else knew they are giving away free reg today |
| 15:19.52 | emte | http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml |
| 15:19.57 | pb_ | [cc]smart: heh, I don't think the arm-linux site is particularly high traffic. I imagine it would run quite happily on an nslu2. |
| 15:19.59 | emte | for the people who didnt |
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| 15:25.59 | LoDown | i know that this isn't directly related to OE, but bitbake is trying to DL a file from CVS, and it says: cvs [login aborted]: reading from server: Connection reset by peer. |
| 15:26.07 | LoDown | anyone have an idea what is going on? |
| 15:26.18 | LoDown | i get the same message when I try to log into it manually... |
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| 15:28.40 | hrw|work | LoDown: fetch from cvs.sf.net? |
| 15:28.49 | LoDown | ya |
| 15:29.05 | hrw|work | LoDown: sf.net is fscking slow last months |
| 15:29.18 | LoDown | it is trying to get gtk-webcore... |
| 15:29.27 | LoDown | ok..so just keep trying, in other words? |
| 15:29.30 | CIA-15 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfaeb226f... 10/ (packages/pcmcia-cs/pcmcia-cs-3.2.8/borzoi/ide.opts .mt-attrs): pcmcia: ship dedicated ide.opts for borzoi |
| 15:30.14 | koen|slug | LoDown: yep, keep trying |
| 15:30.31 | LoDown | ok...just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing anything wrong |
| 15:30.34 | LoDown | thanks :-D |
| 15:41.58 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17244.png - why scap suxx so badly on my husky? |
| 15:42.38 | hrw|work | Package: scap |
| 15:42.38 | hrw|work | Version: 0.1-r1 |
| 15:43.25 | hrw|work | upgrading to r4 (maybe this will help) |
| 15:45.05 | hrw|work | nope... |
| 15:45.17 | hrw|work | koen|slug: which version of scap util works at all? |
| 15:45.21 | XorA | hrw|work: you need to ask some guy to not rotate the image produced off a 2.6 husky, I forget the name though. I meant to ask but got busy |
| 15:45.33 | koen|slug | XorA: nelson |
| 15:45.40 | koen|slug | hrw|work: they all work for me |
| 15:45.41 | XorA | hrw|work: there you go |
| 15:45.41 | CosmicPenguin | ha-ha! |
| 15:45.55 | koen|slug | CosmicPenguin: no, not mr muntz ;) |
| 15:46.04 | XorA | koen|slug: its because scap works around sharp crapness, this workaround is no longer required |
| 15:46.17 | koen|slug | XorA: it works on my 2.6 corgi |
| 15:46.27 | hrw|work | code taken from top of /scap/ also does not work when started from shell |
| 15:46.31 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17903.png |
| 15:46.32 | XorA | koen|slug: in landscape? |
| 15:46.41 | koen|slug | yep |
| 15:46.51 | hrw|work | root@c7x0:~# /sbin/fbset |
| 15:46.51 | hrw|work | -sh: /sbin/fbset: not found |
| 15:46.52 | XorA | koen|slug: bizarre, I always see same result as hrw|work |
| 15:47.00 | hrw|work | thats why probably? |
| 15:47.29 | koen|slug | yes |
| 15:47.38 | koen|slug | it uses fbset to get the orientation |
| 15:47.39 | lardman | koen|slug: you should reply here: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14427&st=75 with the single word 'Perhaps'. |
| 15:48.05 | koen|slug | XorA, hrw|work : http://handhelds.org/scap/port.17973.png |
| 15:48.15 | koen|slug | root@c7x0:~# uname -a |
| 15:48.15 | koen|slug | Linux c7x0 2.6.12-mm1 #1 Tue Jun 21 23:09:47 CEST 2005 armv5tel unknown |
| 15:48.28 | hrw|work | Linux c7x0 2.6.13-rc6-mm2 #1 PREEMPT Fri Aug 26 12:39:05 CEST 2005 armv5tel unknown |
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| 15:48.40 | hrw|work | koen|slug: 'which fbset' |
| 15:49.01 | hrw|work | hmm.. fbset is not linked to busybox.. |
| 15:49.35 | XorA | koen|slug: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18230.png |
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| 15:52.48 | hrw|work | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18525.png - finally (but with shell code from hh.org/scap/ not with scap) |
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| 16:41.27 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 17:04.58 | mickeyl | ~oe snapshots |
| 17:05.01 | ibot | methinks oe snapshots is see http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ |
| 17:20.34 | mreimer | trying to build gpe-image, I get: " Package libxsettings-client was not found in the pkg-config search path. | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libxsettings-client.pc' | to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable | No package 'libxsettings-client' found..." Any ideas? |
| 17:21.45 | mreimer | I have libxsettings-client-dev_0.1[34]-r0_arm.ipk and libxsettings-client0_0.1[34]-r0_arm.ipk in build/tmp/deploy/ipk |
| 17:22.11 | mickeyl | check whether a) this error message is right b) libxsettings has been built c) libxsettings inherits pkgconfig d) PKG_CONFIG_PATH is properly set |
| 17:22.24 | mickeyl | if anything doesn't apply then it sounds like a bug in bitbake |
| 17:22.26 | mickeyl | no |
| 17:22.30 | mickeyl | oe, of course |
| 17:22.54 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/12/1253.html |
| 17:23.07 | koen|slug | rebuild offending packages to correctly stage the .pc file |
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| 17:24.46 | mreimer | thanks, I'll try that |
| 17:25.36 | mreimer | monotone: network error: failed to connect: Connection refused |
| 17:25.47 | mreimer | monotone --db=oe.db --quiet pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.dev |
| 17:25.58 | koen|slug | try one of the other servers |
| 17:26.13 | chouimat|ibook | hi mickeyl |
| 17:26.18 | koen|slug | ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl or monotone.nslu2-linux.org |
| 17:26.22 | dan2003 | mtd-snapshot-20050715.tar.bz2 is no longer in exsitance anywahere, and bitbake wants it ;( |
| 17:26.54 | mickeyl | sounds like your oe tree is old |
| 17:26.54 | mreimer | pulling from ewi |
| 17:27.13 | mickeyl | in my oe tree we have upgraded to 20050801 |
| 17:27.23 | dan2003 | i just did pull |
| 17:27.39 | dan2003 | should i delete and restart the build? |
| 17:27.54 | dan2003 | ahh, i have to do the checkout thing t complete the update? |
| 17:27.56 | dan2003 | 2 secs |
| 17:27.59 | mickeyl | of course |
| 17:28.20 | dan2003 | that should fix it ! |
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| 17:29.38 | kergoth | anyone recall how to change where the @handhelds.org email address forwards to? |
| 17:29.59 | koen|slug | send $bribe to france or jamey |
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| 17:30.09 | koen|slug | since the admin interface is still down afaik |
| 17:30.22 | kergoth | k |
| 17:30.47 | koen|slug | otherwise https://admin.handhelds.org/ would be the place (iirc) |
| 17:33.45 | mreimer | monotone: warning: missing packages/efl/esmart_0.9.0.004.bb \n monotone: misuse: 1 missing files |
| 17:34.03 | mreimer | do I need to do anything about that, or will it take care of itself? |
| 17:35.39 | mreimer | koen, I've pull the latest from ewi, but classes/pkgconfig.bbclass doesn't have florian's commit from yesterday. Is ewi not up-to-date? |
| 17:36.21 | koen|slug | it is |
| 17:36.39 | koen|slug | but you have to rebuild a packages using pkgconfig |
| 17:36.49 | koen|slug | all* |
| 17:37.09 | koen|slug | since OE thinks they built (staged) ok |
| 17:37.22 | mreimer | yeah, I'll rebuild the packages, but shouldn't I see the change in the commit you mentioned above in classes/pkgconfig.bbclass? |
| 17:37.33 | koen|slug | you should |
| 17:37.38 | koen|slug | did you do a monotone update? |
| 17:37.50 | mreimer | yes |
| 17:38.14 | mreimer | unless monotone update bailed out after printing the error I mentioned |
| 17:38.47 | mreimer | monotone: warning: missing packages/efl/esmart_0.9.0.004.bb \n monotone: misuse: 1 missing files |
| 17:40.15 | mickeyl | mt drop packages/efl/esmart_0.9.004.bb |
| 17:40.19 | mickeyl | then try again |
| 17:40.48 | koen|slug | or 'monotone list missing | xargs monotone drop' for all files |
| 17:41.17 | koen|slug | about OE blowing up on gentoo: |
| 17:41.18 | koen|slug | 19:38 < peteru-home> Arghh!!! Effing gentoo patches just cover up the broken expand command by patching the testsuite to not run tests on expand. |
| 17:41.28 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:42.03 | koen|slug | people how emerged world and use OE might have some troubles |
| 17:42.58 | koen|slug | /show/who/ |
| 17:47.01 | subdue | http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml |
| 17:47.22 | mreimer | koen, mickeyl, thanks, that helped |
| 17:47.53 | koen|slug | mreimer: koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/openembedded/packages$ cat tslib/tslib/ts.conf-h2200 module_raw inputmodule linear_h2200 |
| 17:48.10 | koen|slug | shouldn't that be 'module_raw linear_h2200' ? |
| 17:48.19 | mreimer | koen|slug: yes |
| 17:49.56 | mreimer | thanks koen |
| 17:51.03 | mreimer | uh oh, I mt drop the wrong file. how do I get it back? |
| 17:51.09 | koen|slug | mt revert |
| 17:51.14 | mreimer | thanks :-) |
| 17:51.34 | koen|slug | I did the same 30 minutes ago :) |
| 17:52.18 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1c3f5d84... 10/packages/tslib/ (tslib/ts.conf-h2200 tslib_cvs.bb): tslib: change ts.conf-h2200 to use module_raw for h2200 to include it in the calibration, bump PR |
| 17:53.00 | koen|slug | oops |
| 17:53.17 | koen|slug | s/ h2200/ linux-h2200/ |
| 17:53.36 | koen|slug | linear* |
| 17:54.13 | mreimer | the module name uses an underscore, right? if that's what you're referring to |
| 17:54.42 | koen|slug | module_raw linear_h2200 |
| 17:55.22 | mreimer | yes |
| 17:55.28 | koen|slug | simple patch, hard commit message |
| 17:55.47 | koen|slug | that should fix the ts problem a bit |
| 17:57.15 | mreimer | yes, it helps a bit--at least it's possible to tap on the panel |
| 17:58.34 | koen|slug | if that build succeeds, could you upload it to hh.org/~mreimer so I can test it on a sd card? |
| 17:58.48 | mreimer | sure. |
| 17:59.14 | mreimer | Do you want a pristine gpe-image, or would the one I built the other day be good enough? |
| 17:59.34 | koen|slug | which in is the best? |
| 18:00.07 | CIA-15 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf33034c... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: revert accidant commit that outcommented several modules |
| 18:00.12 | mreimer | Well, I know the gpe-image from the other day works because I tested it. |
| 18:00.57 | mreimer | I'll go ahead and upload that one for now, since this build is going to take a long time |
| 18:01.47 | mreimer | koen|slug: so you want to boot from SD? I'll build a kernel + modules for you to do that |
| 18:02.40 | koen|slug | I'm preparing a sd card right now |
| 18:02.57 | koen|slug | should the ext2 partition be on p1 or p2? |
| 18:03.28 | mreimer | koen|slug: doesn't matter, as you can specify which in your kernel args (root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 or whatever) |
| 18:03.41 | koen|slug | nice |
| 18:03.50 | mreimer | koen|slug: are you going to boot from haret? |
| 18:04.12 | koen|slug | I think so |
| 18:04.18 | mreimer | that's simplest |
| 18:04.22 | koen|slug | unless there is an easy way to restore wince |
| 18:05.01 | mreimer | yes, very simple if you have a big enough CF card, but not really necessary if you just want to try GPE and keep wince functional |
| 18:05.47 | koen|slug | I'll wait for gpe 2.8 before inflicting the linux horror on my girlfriend ;) |
| 18:06.08 | mreimer | :-) |
| 18:07.08 | mreimer | koen|slug: kernel still building (competing for CPU with bitbake parse) |
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| 18:14.38 | mickeyl | wb RP |
| 18:16.18 | RP | mickeyl: hi. Did I miss anything? (my server is still behaving in an odd fashion) |
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| 18:19.25 | mickeyl | nothing important ;) |
| 18:19.38 | RP | mickeyl: I've had one report of the 2.6 C1000 kernel booting which is nice to know |
| 18:22.32 | mickeyl | ya, that's great! |
| 18:23.32 | mickeyl | btw., there's one thing i don't like in the decision to use the switch event interface for the hinge |
| 18:24.08 | mickeyl | since you can't filter events on /dev/input/event, i have to listen to all events and discard everything but the switches |
| 18:24.11 | mickeyl | kind of suboptimal |
| 18:24.50 | lardman | bye all |
| 18:25.34 | mreimer | koen|slug: http://handhelds.org/~mreimer/mmc/20050830/ |
| 18:25.45 | koen|slug | cool, thanks |
| 18:25.45 | mickeyl | perhaps a third device reporting nothing but switches would make more sense |
| 18:27.06 | RP | mickeyl: That makes no sense to the kernel people... |
| 18:27.14 | RP | What events do you have to ignore btw? |
| 18:27.30 | mickeyl | all keys |
| 18:28.37 | RP | mickeyl: Can you not get them from the same source as the keyboard driver? I guess that abstraction doesn't make sense... |
| 18:28.59 | mickeyl | no, the keyboard driver works on a different level (qte core) and listens on /dev/tty |
| 18:29.41 | RP | Ah, I thought it had switched to the input event layer... |
| 18:29.55 | RP | I don't think there is anything we can do I'm afraid... |
| 18:30.20 | RP | The only alternative would be a seperate input device but the kernel people are unlikely to go for that... |
| 18:30.32 | mickeyl | nope. i don't expect anything as well, i was just pointing out that it's a bit suboptimal. it'll work fine anyway. |
| 18:30.57 | koen|slug | mreimer: any recommended version of haret? |
| 18:31.22 | mreimer | I'm using 0.3.4. I tried fluffy's version, but it wouldn't run on my version of wince |
| 18:31.24 | RP | mickeyl: Yes, I hadn't thought of it like that. We can't have everything I guess ;-) |
| 18:31.34 | mreimer | koen|slug: do you need haret too? |
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| 18:31.56 | koen|slug | mreimer: I can't seem to find in in my homedir |
| 18:32.03 | mreimer | koen|slug: just a sec... |
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| 18:33.01 | mreimer | koen|slug: http://handhelds.org/~mreimer/haret.exe |
| 18:35.20 | [cc]smart | arg |
| 18:35.26 | [cc]smart | ERROR: see log in /data/work/nslu2-linux/openzaurus/tmp/work/gcc-snapshot-cross-20050830-r0/temp/log.do_configure.11742 |
| 18:35.40 | [cc]smart | The following requested languages could not be built: f77 |
| 18:35.40 | [cc]smart | Recognised languages are: c,ada,c++,f95,java,objc,obj-c++,treelang |
| 18:35.49 | mickeyl | i think gcc-snapshot is pretty much unmaintained |
| 18:36.08 | mickeyl | better use 3.4.x |
| 18:36.10 | [cc]smart | then i'm building the wrong target prolly |
| 18:36.31 | [cc]smart | just did my "initial setup" for openzaurus |
| 18:36.50 | [cc]smart | never tried that before if i don't count sth like... 2 years before ? |
| 18:36.59 | mickeyl | sounds like DISTRO is wrong then or something |
| 18:37.17 | [cc]smart | DISTRO="openzaurus" |
| 18:37.17 | CIA-15 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r8457b71b... 10/packages/musicpd/ (glurp_0.11.3.bb glurp_0.11.6.bb): glurp: update version, switch to SF mirror |
| 18:37.21 | [cc]smart | MACHINE="collie" |
| 18:37.23 | mickeyl | that's not recommended |
| 18:37.29 | mickeyl | read the distro configs |
| 18:37.34 | mickeyl | openzaurus has everything free floating |
| 18:37.46 | mickeyl | better use openzaurus-3.5.4.conf |
| 18:38.00 | mickeyl | which nails down fixed versions of tools and such |
| 18:38.43 | [cc]smart | ok, thx |
| 18:38.53 | mickeyl | np |
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| 18:45.16 | mickeyl | hmmm |
| 18:45.29 | mickeyl | the switches don't seem to be included in the global key state |
| 18:45.36 | mickeyl | that's not good |
| 18:45.53 | RP | mickeyl: There is a different ioctl for switch states |
| 18:45.59 | mreimer | koen|slug: also, I put evtest / ts_test / ts_calibrate in /home/root |
| 18:46.12 | mickeyl | RP: ah, a new one. do you have that link for the patch again, please? |
| 18:47.09 | RP | mickeyl: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/corgikbd_switch-r0.patch |
| 18:47.18 | mickeyl | koen: i vote for the compat link |
| 18:47.22 | mickeyl | RP: thanks |
| 18:47.45 | RP | mickeyl: Sadly we can't do one kernel supports all for cxx00's if we boot off CF on spitz as the cmdlines are different. How annoying :-/ |
| 18:48.45 | mickeyl | RP: yeah. |
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| 18:50.26 | lardman | I'm back |
| 18:50.45 | lardman | re my shepherd only having 30MB of memory, I've got /proc/meminfo |
| 18:51.28 | lardman | http://pastebin.ca/21622 |
| 18:51.47 | RP | lardman: What does /proc/cpuinfo say your device is? |
| 18:53.28 | lardman | Which bit, I've not got a connection so I'll have to type it by hand |
| 18:53.44 | RP | lardman: Does it say its a Sharp Corgi or a Sharp Shepherd? |
| 18:54.30 | lardman | actually hang on, I can do some CF card shuffling - anything else you want to see? |
| 18:54.44 | lardman | It says Corgi |
| 18:54.59 | mickeyl | uh oh |
| 18:55.07 | mickeyl | this is kernel 2.6 ? |
| 18:55.07 | RP | lardman: and its a C750? That's the problem then - its being misdetected :-/ |
| 18:55.13 | RP | How recent is the kernel? |
| 18:55.16 | lardman | yes that's right |
| 18:55.21 | lardman | This is with: Linux c7x0 2.6.13-rc5-mm1 #1 PREEMPT Mon Aug 29 16:07:52 BST armvtel unknown |
| 18:55.38 | mickeyl | oops |
| 18:55.40 | mickeyl | righto |
| 18:55.41 | RP | Rats. I've broken the detection scripts :-( |
| 18:55.42 | lardman | I pulled & updated just before I built it |
| 18:55.47 | mickeyl | here as well |
| 18:55.56 | lardman | glad it's not just me :) |
| 18:56.04 | RP | I tested on corgi and husky... |
| 18:56.07 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 18:56.35 | lardman | I'll be about tomorrow for testing if needs be |
| 18:56.46 | mickeyl | Switch global status: |
| 18:56.46 | mickeyl | Switch (bit 0) active |
| 18:56.46 | mickeyl | Switch (bit 1) active |
| 18:56.53 | mickeyl | hmm, yes. |
| 18:58.26 | lardman | Anyway night all, I've also got to get back to my PhD |
| 18:58.34 | LoDown | about how long should it take to build gpe-image? |
| 18:58.52 | RP | lardman: I'll try and track the problem down and will let you know the result |
| 19:01.33 | RP | lardman, mickeyl : The bug is actually one I found and thought I'd fixed but forgot to bump the patch number. Increasing the sharsl_detection patch version to -r1 will fix this - sorry :-/ |
| 19:01.52 | mickeyl | heh, no worries |
| 19:02.00 | mickeyl | bbl |
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| 19:04.28 | gremlin[it] | monotone.vanilla.de is still in maintenence ? |
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| 19:04.32 | hrw | hi |
| 19:07.25 | RP | hi hrw |
| 19:18.28 | mreimer | building gconf-dbus: "/opt/oe/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libpangox-1.0.so: undefined reference to `_pango_engine_shape_covers' | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status". I rebuilt pango, but that didn't help. Ideas? |
| 19:18.42 | CIA-15 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r6332ba3a... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.13-rc5-mm1.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Update detection routines to correctly detect corgi and shepherd. Very nasty to get this wrongMT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| 19:28.33 | hrw | RP: how much does c7x0 differ? not counting pxa250/255 and flashsize |
| 19:28.35 | LoDown | what the crap? I'm getting a 503 from sf.net....no wonder bitbake can't DL from there |
| 19:31.28 | [cc]smart | hm, seems iw rongly assumed all bug entries/comments would go to the mailinglist |
| 19:31.38 | [cc]smart | so i'm missing comments on bug # 272 |
| 19:31.56 | koen|slug | only stuff assigned to oe@ goes to oe@ |
| 19:32.08 | [cc]smart | today, this became obvious :) |
| 19:33.21 | [cc]smart | is it possible to post- deliver to oe@ ? |
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| 19:53.07 | mreimer | building gconf-dbus: "/opt/oe/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libpangox-1.0.so: undefined reference to `_pango_engine_shape_covers' | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status". I rebuilt pango, but that didn't help. Ideas? |
| 19:54.14 | koen|slug | remove that file and rebuild again? |
| 19:55.03 | mreimer | I rebuilt it. I'll try removing and rebuild again |
| 19:58.11 | RP | hrw: Different charging hardware |
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| 20:09.14 | hrw | RP: ah.. |
| 20:10.39 | RP | hrw: and memory size |
| 20:11.24 | RP | My server's hdd is dieing, hence all the werid problems I'm been seeing. Its SMART status is still fine though (but the driver fails its own self tests) |
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| 20:20.37 | ldc | And finally |
| 20:21.16 | ldc | an initial version of my mediadistribution is released... If you want to check what openembedded pkg's it has get a copy from http://www.chassi.se |
| 20:25.15 | koen|slug | ldc: screenshots! screenshots! |
| 20:25.18 | ldc | =) |
| 20:25.22 | ldc | it's just running freevo |
| 20:25.26 | ldc | freevo.sourceforge.net |
| 20:26.16 | ldc | yea |
| 20:26.18 | koen|slug | feel free to attach your changes to bugzilla |
| 20:26.58 | ldc | just that i dont have a name for it yet :) |
| 20:27.20 | ldc | the ldc-noname-via-epia-sp-mediadist-deluxe :) |
| 20:27.24 | koen|slug | kergoth: converting you new boss to the OE religion? |
| 20:27.48 | kergoth | koen|slug: hehe, thats the -long- term plan. short term has more mundane things like actually using source control ;) |
| 20:28.03 | koen|slug | ldc: tiny UxIXOS |
| 20:28.14 | ldc | koen, well, there's just to many for me to manage... and i'm not really shure that i have followed any OE recommendations when writing the pkg's either |
| 20:28.52 | koen|slug | that's why we can comment on bugzilla ;) |
| 20:29.06 | ldc | koen, hmm... got to have an f'n in there to say it's running freevo also :) |
| 20:29.41 | ldc | koen, hehe... well... that many comments will just get me down... |
| 20:30.41 | ldc | koen, and also, i have been forced to adjust some pkg's to fit this configuration... But i think there is one thing that you just can yank out of my tree, and that's the xorg-6.8.99.16 pkg |
| 20:31.46 | ldc | that one got support for via's CN400 chip |
| 20:31.46 | mreimer | deleting libpango* and rebuilding pango didn't help; I still get "/opt/oe/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libpangox-1.0.so: undefined reference to `_pango_engine_shape_covers'" |
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| 20:34.05 | hrw | re |
| 20:42.32 | hrw | argh... <1kbps to my server ;( |
| 20:43.08 | kergoth | :( |
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| 20:45.59 | hrw | probably will mirror archive on oz.org - but then people will shout 'why it is so fscking slow?' |
| 20:48.21 | hrw | ~hail hh.org |
| 20:48.22 | ibot | ACTION bows down to hh.org and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 20:51.14 | ldc | ~hail chassi.se |
| 20:51.15 | ibot | ACTION bows down to chassi.se and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 20:51.17 | ldc | just had to try it :) |
| 20:52.16 | ldc | and after a couple of well-deserved beer i'm easily amused...=) |
| 20:52.41 | koen|slug | uh oh |
| 20:53.02 | koen|slug | yep, that guinness has been sitting there for a while |
| 20:53.24 | ldc | ~hail Guinness |
| 20:53.26 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Guinness and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 20:58.07 | NAiL | urgh.. I need a oe cheatsheet... what's /var in oe-isn? localstatedir? |
| 20:59.54 | koen|slug | export localstatedir = "/var" |
| 21:00.03 | CosmicPenguin | cat conf/biktbake.conf > cheatsheet |
| 21:00.06 | koen|slug | when in doubt, grep conf/bitbake.conf :) |
| 21:01.27 | NAiL | thx |
| 21:01.51 | CIA-15 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r080cfc56... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: fixed typo in conf/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf |
| 21:01.56 | CIA-15 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0cce57df... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-dejavu_1.13-20050820.bb: ttf-dejavu: archive mirrored on my account on handhelds.org - close bug#272 |
| 21:02.27 | hrw | ~lart sf.net |
| 21:02.36 | hrw | ~lart sharp |
| 21:04.47 | CosmicPenguin | That won't work - thats where lawyers are bred |
| 21:05.58 | koen|slug | yay! |
| 21:05.59 | koen|slug | http://handhelds.org/scap/land.2419.png |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-15 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8fc2532e... 10/packages/gpesyncd/gpesyncd_cvs.bb: |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-15 | gpesyncd: add cvs version of gpesyncd till it sees a release |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-15 | NOTE: it needs libmimedir_cvs, but OE doesn't have a clean way to specify that |
| 21:06.11 | CIA-15 | ~lart OE |
| 21:06.23 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 21:06.26 | CosmicPenguin | Now thats funny |
| 21:06.55 | CosmicPenguin | I thought cute comments were out |
| 21:06.58 | CosmicPenguin | somebody is going to go after you |
| 21:07.18 | emte | only grouchy reenoo |
| 21:07.18 | koen|slug | it is worth it :) |
| 21:07.33 | koen|slug | or grouchy groucho |
| 21:07.47 | emte | lol |
| 21:08.38 | hrw | koen|slug: DEPENDS = "libmimedir-${CVSDATE}" :) |
| 21:09.45 | hrw | ~lart sf.net once more |
| 21:10.09 | hrw | I go sleep - when I wake up then maybe page from sf.net will load.... |
| 21:10.10 | hrw | cu |
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| 21:15.47 | kergoth | koen|slug: we should really set up a round-robin dns |
| 21:15.58 | kergoth | koen|slug: monotone.openembedded.org -> (vanille.de, etc) |
| 21:16.25 | JustinP | kergoth: ::shudder::....hwo often would those sync? we'd have hydras all the time |
| 21:16.33 | NAiL | I was thinking the same |
| 21:16.36 | JustinP | well maybe not all the time, but more often I would think |
| 21:16.37 | koen|slug | and see monotone blowup on changed keys for hostnames |
| 21:16.43 | JustinP | heh, yep |
| 21:16.59 | kergoth | if monotone blows up that easily, we should be using something less unstable |
| 21:17.18 | koen|slug | replace your sshd key at home |
| 21:17.22 | CosmicPenguin | See now thats just crazy talk |
| 21:17.22 | koen|slug | ssh will blow up too |
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| 21:17.58 | koen|slug | unless you think the whole key based auth is unstable |
| 21:18.19 | CIA-15 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7241b1d9... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: Fix hardcoded paths, and create dirs in image before trying to copy files there |
| 21:18.57 | NAiL | btw... shouldn't the build stamp be CET or something? |
| 21:18.57 | NAiL | NOTE: build 200508302317: started |
| 21:18.59 | kergoth | with ssh, i could easily replace the host key on the host end if i was setting up a round robin system |
| 21:19.12 | kergoth | not that i'd set that up with ssh, but you get the point |
| 21:19.12 | koen|slug | another option would be to share the same privkey on all dbs |
| 21:20.28 | koen|slug | but anyway, the backup servers are listed in the wiki |
| 21:20.59 | koen|slug | if people didn't read GettingStarted I don't feel sorry if they get stuck |
| 21:21.29 | kergoth | clearly you've forgotten who you're talking to. you think i give a flying fuck about people who dont read the instructions? |
| 21:21.36 | koen|slug | heh |
| 21:21.49 | kergoth | its still a good idea to do what we can to improve ease of use |
| 21:21.49 | koen|slug | ~hail kergoth |
| 21:21.51 | ibot | ACTION bows down to kergoth and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 21:22.15 | kergoth | whee, pull for the first time in a week or so |
| 21:22.44 | koen|slug | a bittorrent like pull would be nice |
| 21:23.02 | koen|slug | have a list of servers, compare the head revision and pull away |
| 21:23.31 | koen|slug | since everything has been digitally signed it shouldn't be too hard to implement it |
| 21:28.08 | koen|slug | noooooooooo |
| 21:28.20 | koen|slug | rday discovered the familiar@ list |
| 21:28.26 | kergoth | haha |
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| 21:28.45 | koen|slug | 'i'm assuming that the "familiar" stuff is more |
| 21:28.47 | koen|slug | up to date' |
| 21:28.59 | koen|slug | to have something completely out of context |
| 21:30.47 | koen|slug | he's one stupid question away from a procmail rule to dev/null |
| 21:39.36 | ldc | lol |
| 21:40.10 | ldc | just got a post on my forum.... asking if i'm distributing the sourcecode for all the pkg's in my OE buildroot |
| 21:41.26 | koen|slug | ldc: they are all in the DL_DIR |
| 21:41.33 | ldc | yea... i know... |
| 21:42.00 | koen|slug | you know more than most people :) |
| 21:42.04 | ldc | but it's a bit hard to fit 2.6Gb worth of sources on a 200Mb hosting ... =) |
| 21:42.22 | koen|slug | you only have to provide them if they ask for it |
| 21:42.34 | koen|slug | it's perfectly reasonable to burn a DVD and mail it |
| 21:42.35 | ldc | nope... since i dont provide any binary images |
| 21:42.43 | koen|slug | heh |
| 21:42.47 | ldc | atleast yet... |
| 21:45.58 | ldc | gonna distribute an image later on when i get some type of installation-configuration or web-configuration for the machine..... ... maybe just put out a bittorrent download for the sources... |
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| 21:50.38 | JustinTodd | im receiving this error when trying to use bitbake build nano: /usr/local/bin/autoreconf: unrecognized option `--exclude=autopoint' |
| 21:50.49 | JustinTodd | is my version of automake too old? (v1.9) |
| 21:51.21 | ldc | what version of nano? |
| 21:51.29 | JustinTodd | 1.3.5 |
| 21:51.55 | JustinTodd | this is my first attempt at building anything with bitbake+oe. let me try something else to see if i still have this problem |
| 21:53.12 | ldc | you have built the crosscompilers and sutch? |
| 21:53.37 | ldc | nano works perfectly here.. |
| 21:54.05 | JustinTodd | no i didnt. i didnt see that in the getting started section on the Wiki. where can i find directions on building the cross compiling environment? |
| 21:54.17 | koen|slug | OE builds it for you |
| 21:54.49 | koen|slug | your version of autoreconf isn't the correct one |
| 21:55.03 | ldc | koen, well, it depends on how you type the command :) |
| 21:55.15 | koen|slug | yeah |
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| 22:13.23 | JustinTodd | ldc: how did you invoke bitbake to compile nano? |
| 22:13.50 | ldc | JustinTodd, "bitbake nano" |
| 22:18.15 | JustinTodd | arg, yea if i dont tell bitbake explicitly where the bb file is with -b it'll just scroll for ever saying ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/justin/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/[x]/[x].bb\n' even though my BBPATH (env) and BBFILES (local.conf) params are set correctly |
| 22:18.38 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | off to work l8r |
| 22:19.05 | ldc | JustinTodd, well, it seems like it's not correctly set... |
| 22:19.48 | ldc | OEROOT = "/home/bitbake/mediastation" |
| 22:19.58 | ldc | BBFILES = "${OEROOT}/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 22:20.20 | JustinP | JustinTodd: if you give it a specifit bb file it doesn't compile dependencies |
| 22:20.31 | JustinP | JustinTodd: you normally don't want to do that |
| 22:20.36 | ldc | as an example in your $OEROOT/build/conf/local.conf |
| 22:21.01 | JustinTodd | ok. I havent set OEROOT. that might be it |
| 22:21.07 | ldc | and when standing in $OEROOT execute "bitbake nano" |
| 22:23.15 | JustinTodd | excellent!!!! but SLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW |
| 22:23.30 | ldc | well, time for bed here...... if you just follow the howto step by step it will work... got it working here on my first try... |
| 22:23.54 | ldc | JustinTodd, it's slow the first time, next time it will use a cache that will speed it up a bit |
| 22:25.29 | JustinTodd | Ok. im still not entirely sure how this whole system works. Is everything done locally? ie. the source tarball is wget'd and cross compiled on the local machine? |
| 22:25.54 | ldc | yes, all it downloaded and compiled on your system |
| 22:26.15 | ldc | *gone* |
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| 22:26.36 | JustinTodd | well this is an absolutely amazing tool. thanks for your help everyone |
| 22:26.41 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart boost |
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| 22:27.36 | JustinTodd | i had troubles compiling boost aswell. i just used the monotone binary distrib |
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| 22:36.04 | drw | Hey guys. I am trying to do a fresh checkout of org.openembedded.dev and am getting the following message: |
| 22:36.06 | drw | monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads |
| 22:36.56 | koen|slug | I'd say monotone pull again |
| 22:37.18 | koen|slug | since http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev only shows one head |
| 22:37.42 | drw | I tried that (delete the db, do a fresh, full pull) |
| 22:39.05 | drw | I'll try downloading the snapshot, update and checkout from that |
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| 22:47.46 | drw | koen|slug: worked that time, thanks |
| 22:50.16 | drw | yeah I noticed, I didn't have to wait for too many revision updates :) |
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| 23:12.42 | JustinP | drw|bbl: did you ever do a commit locally? |
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| 23:43.56 | LoDown | i have a problem...bitbake can't download the files for mtd-utils-native |
| 23:44.29 | LoDown | it trys two different mirrors, one is ftp and never connects, and the other is http, but does not have the mtd-snapshot |
| 23:45.29 | JustinTodd | maybe you can just search for it on google and place it in the sources directory? |
| 23:45.43 | LoDown | thats what I'm trying right now... |
| 23:45.55 | LoDown | didn't know if anybody knew of any good mirrors... |
| 23:47.17 | dan2003 | LoDown, is it 200507 sumin its lookin for? |
| 23:47.35 | LoDown | 20060801 |
| 23:47.41 | LoDown | *20050801 |
| 23:48.15 | dan2003 | oh ok |
| 23:49.51 | LoDown | i can't even find MTD project home page...whatever MTD is :-D |
| 23:50.28 | kergoth | ~google for linux mtd |
| 23:50.50 | LoDown | duh...i was googling for everything but that |
| 23:50.51 | LoDown | thanks |
| 23:51.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:51.23 | kergoth | np |
| 23:54.15 | CIA-15 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r13c59a81... 10/packages/bluez-utils/bluez-utils-common_2.18.inc: Add support for the broadcom firmware loader |
| 23:55.56 | koen|slug | http://raphael.slinckx.net/blog/index.php/2005-08-31/the-wonders-of-pastebin |
