| 00:01.34 | zecke | cya |
| 00:01.43 | emte | cya |
| 00:02.51 | zecke | ggilbert: I agree that PIM should be the core of such a system |
| 00:04.35 | zecke | good nite |
| 00:04.41 | ggilbert | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:05.28 | florian | good night |
| 00:06.07 | ggilbert | now to figure out why internet access just stopped working |
| 00:06.35 | emte | your imaging your here? |
| 00:06.47 | emte | imagining* |
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| 00:35.41 | mattcamp | What are the advantages of the csl-arm patches for gcc 3.4.4? I notice that according to bug #204, the csl-arm patches cause problems with some apps. Can gcc-cross-3.4.4 (without the csl-arm stuff) build a system for XScale? |
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| 02:30.44 | emte | mooga mooga mooga |
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| 05:17.26 | [cc]smart | RP: we are using NOOP and deadline for openslug and for devices running flash only AS and CFQ are not really necessary. For disk depending on the task the latter two are often better choice. so for zaurii i'd suggest to disable AS and CFQ. |
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| 05:56.02 | ZonE-HaKin9_wRk | hey be4 i spend anymore time try to get gpe-imagde to build... are there any probs with oz-3.5.4 & gpe-image?? |
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| 07:48.37 | XorA | morning |
| 07:49.56 | eJumbo | how do i compile monotone with -fno-omit-frame-pointer and -fno-strict-aliasing ? |
| 07:50.21 | eJumbo | configure does not accept that option |
| 07:50.45 | XorA | eJumbo: CFLAGS=-fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing ./configure |
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| 09:15.25 | koen|slug | good morning all |
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| 09:42.14 | RP | morning all |
| 09:42.28 | XorA | RP: morning |
| 09:43.36 | RP | ZonE-HaKin9|home: I successfullly built both opie and gpe images yesterday |
| 09:44.15 | koen|slug | RP: clean rebuild? |
| 09:45.17 | RP | koen|slug: yes, fresh build directory - only problem was the ttf font |
| 09:46.19 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | Hey RP & XorA |
| 09:46.20 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | RP: ThanX ... it keeps failing on me :( any chance u could post your local.conf file for me to check out... i thnk my prob maybe in there...? |
| 09:47.52 | rwhitby | koen|slug: did you see that we now have a method of running normal debian on the slug with no extra hardware required (i.e. not needing serial, and using onboard IXP exthernet) ... ? |
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| 09:48.23 | koen|slug | rwhitby: not yet |
| 09:48.58 | RP_ | My server seems to be ill. Can't type anything on it without massive lag... |
| 09:49.22 | rwhitby | http://debian.nslu2-linux.org/ |
| 09:49.41 | RP_ | ZonE-HAKin9: The machine with the conf file is powered off at the moment. Give me a few minutes and I'll find it. It has nothing special in it though |
| 09:50.09 | koen|slug | rwhitby: nifty |
| 09:50.18 | koen|slug | rwhitby: but OE is much cooler ;) |
| 09:50.50 | XorA | koen|slug: and you dont have to deal with debian package building :-) |
| 09:51.06 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | RP_: thanx i just need to check it.. see if i have any stuff ups |
| 09:54.15 | RP | ZonE-HaKin9|home: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/local.conf |
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| 09:55.29 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | RP: ThanX MatE |
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| 10:00.53 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | RP: did u need to change the PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe" to PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11" ?? |
| 10:01.20 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | RP: to do the differant builds? |
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| 10:28.24 | dopez | is there an easy way to split deploy/ipk/* into feeds like base, opie, gpe ? |
| 10:29.18 | koen|slug | dopez: http://handhelds.org/~koen/ipkg-split-feeds-koen |
| 10:29.26 | koen|slug | that's an ugly pythonscript |
| 10:30.18 | dopez | ah cool |
| 10:30.20 | dopez | thanks :) |
| 10:30.37 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | koen|slug: would u have any idea if i need to change virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe to virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11 when i need to build gpe-image? |
| 10:31.17 | koen|slug | no idea |
| 10:31.21 | dopez | ZonE-HaKin9|home: what is qpe-image failing on? |
| 10:31.26 | XorA | ZonE-HaKin9|home: if you dont, no SDL app will run on X11, and if you build opie in same build dir chances are none will work anyway |
| 10:31.27 | koen|slug | I also use virtual/libsdl:libsdl-x11 |
| 10:31.52 | XorA | libsdl-qpe and libsdl-x11 are not compatible at all :-( |
| 10:32.09 | koen|slug | stinking qpe |
| 10:32.42 | dopez | hehe |
| 10:32.43 | XorA | -Dmain=SDL_Main does a lot of damage :-) |
| 10:32.52 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | kool thanx... umm.. don't have the log info on this pc is there a easy way for me to find it? |
| 10:35.08 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | also if i rm -rf the tmp/* dir and start again would gpe-image build straigh off or do i need to build andything first to get it to work? |
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| 11:17.03 | ZonE-HaKin9| | guys got a weird error when i was trying to do a monotone update and dont know what it means? |
| 11:17.07 | ZonE-HaKin9| | monotone: choose one with 'monotone update <id>' |
| 11:17.07 | ZonE-HaKin9| | monotone: misuse: multiple candidates remain after selection |
| 11:17.44 | ZonE-HaKin9| | anyone else getting this too? |
| 11:18.11 | koen | ZonE-HaKin9|: monotone pull |
| 11:18.49 | ZonE-HaKin9| | koen: just did a monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox} just be4 i got that error |
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| 11:19.18 | koen | according to http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev the heads are merged |
| 11:20.04 | ZonE-HaKin9| | ok i'll run the pull again |
| 11:24.19 | ZonE-HaKin9| | koen: ok just got two more rev's in so i'll assume thats will fix it |
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| 11:39.27 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ | This is not a distribution support channel | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | monotone.vanille.de down for maintenance |
| 11:39.33 | ZonE-HaKin9|home | good night All ;) |
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| 12:29.28 | mickey|zzZZzz | good morning |
| 12:32.59 | gints | mickeyl: I have evening here :) |
| 12:33.07 | mickeyl | ~ugt |
| 12:33.13 | ibot | i heard ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 12:33.48 | gints | opie image still fails on font downloading |
| 12:33.59 | gints | may be I do somthing uncorectly |
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| 15:10.48 | sirfred | Good evening. |
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| 15:24.53 | sirfred | mickeyl: Hello. Do you know if the current kernel in openzaurus for c7x0 has support for the rotate switch? |
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| 16:31.38 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1259794e... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/borzoi/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): base-files: /dev/hda is a harddisk on borzoi, /dev/hdb is the CF |
| 16:31.43 | CIA-3 | 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * rc3dd42f8... 10/packages/avahi/avahi_0.1.bb: avahi: fix DEPENDS parse error in avahi_0.1.bb |
| 16:31.47 | CIA-3 | 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r6f2e2d1c... 10/packages/avahi/avahi_0.2.bb: avahi: add .bb for new version 0.2 |
| 16:31.50 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r6863bbb5... 10/classes/pkgconfig.bbclass: pkgconfig.bbclass: Fix bug causing failure. |
| 16:31.54 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0364f56d... 10/packages/matchbox-panel-hacks/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:31.55 | CIA-3 | matchbox-panel-hacks: use 'left' modmap on rotating to the left, not the 'right' |
| 16:31.55 | CIA-3 | Verified on a c700 and h5550 |
| 16:31.58 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra780a7c7... 10/packages/qte/ (qte-2.3.10/c7x0-w100-accel.patch qte_2.3.10.bb): qte-2.3.10: update c7x0-w100 accelleration patch. This version fixes painting QBitmaps. Patch courtesy Manuel Teira. |
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| 17:16.49 | Loial | gday |
| 17:18.24 | [cc]smart | RP_, mickeyl : seems like freenode.net had some issues.... all interesting stuff as scrolled out :/ |
| 17:18.55 | [cc]smart | if you gave advice to me on do or don't reduce number of IO schedulers in OZ kernels i didn't see it due to that |
| 17:19.58 | Loial | to anyone who can update the repository: http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/snapshots/dejavu-ttf-20050820.tar.gz in ttf-fonts doesn't exist anymore. oldest available is dejavu-ttf-20050822.tar.gz |
| 17:19.59 | [cc]smart | zecke: can OE bugs #110 / #111 get closed ? |
| 17:20.58 | Loial | (and that one compiles fine here) |
| 17:21.14 | [cc]smart | will have a look... |
| 17:23.58 | Loial | one could also upload dejavu-ttf-20050820.tar.gz to oesources.org i guess |
| 17:24.23 | [cc]smart | since this is snapshots directory i'll see if there is sth. kind of "production" |
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| 17:25.28 | [cc]smart | how is Loial related to Zero_Chaos ? |
| 17:25.41 | LoDown | hi, i am new to the whole bitbake thing...and was wondering if there was a way to build only one locale of a package? |
| 17:28.31 | emte | depends |
| 17:28.38 | [cc]smart | hm, obviously, besides snapshot, there is a versioned ttf package |
| 17:28.54 | emte | if you know the working local are the same for all packages you could |
| 17:29.05 | emte | most are a combo of iso and utf |
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| 17:40.06 | [cc]smart | Loial: i filed bug http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272 and we'll see what to do with it. |
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| 17:43.30 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdd1c64ff... 10/packages/gpe-buttonbox/ (gpe-buttonbox_0.5.bb gpe-buttonbox_cvs.bb): gpe-buttonbox: add 0.5 and tidy up the cvs version |
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| 18:12.33 | Loial | [cc]smart: I'm not related with Zero_Chaos |
| 18:13.37 | Loial | [cc]smart: ah k, thanks for creating it! cheers |
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| 18:46.47 | mreimer | where does packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/defconfig come from? Is it just copied from kernel26/arch/arm/configs/ipaqpxa_defconfig? |
| 18:51.22 | koen | and modified to our needs I think |
| 18:51.54 | mreimer | the diff is ugly :-( |
| 18:52.01 | mreimer | not sure where to start |
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| 18:58.35 | pb_ | mreimer: I think that file is redundant and should be deleted. |
| 18:59.35 | mreimer | pb_: what should be used in its place? ipaqpxa_defconfig from the kernel26 tarball? |
| 18:59.54 | pb_ | yeah. that's what the newer .bb files, like handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh1.bb, do. |
| 19:00.59 | mreimer | ah, I see that now |
| 19:01.05 | mreimer | I was just looking at the _cvs.bb |
| 19:01.30 | mreimer | what's the procedure you normally use for freshening ipaqpxa_defconfig? just make oldconfig? |
| 19:01.43 | pb_ | yeah |
| 19:01.57 | mreimer | phew, that makes it a lot easier than having to go through the whole diff |
| 19:03.24 | mreimer | then what about H3900_MODULES_kernel26 in h3900.conf? Just add any h2200 modules to that list? |
| 19:03.50 | pb_ | yup, I guess so. |
| 19:03.55 | mreimer | ok, thanks |
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| 19:44.00 | mreimer | is there any point to building handhelds-pxa-2.6 with ntfs and reiserfs support? |
| 19:44.50 | koen|slug | not really |
| 19:44.57 | koen|slug | but some people might like it as modules |
| 19:45.05 | mreimer | ok |
| 19:45.08 | mreimer | xfs |
| 19:45.10 | mreimer | udf |
| 19:45.11 | mreimer | :-) |
| 19:45.20 | mreimer | who knows what people will dream up |
| 19:45.30 | pb_ | yeah, all those filesystems should be modules. |
| 19:45.40 | mreimer | ok |
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| 20:00.19 | mreimer | does monotone have an equivalent for "cvs diff"? |
| 20:00.34 | mreimer | never mind (sheepish grin) |
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| 20:26.35 | RP__ | If anyone has tried to talk to me today, I've missed it. I think my server's split personality has been suppressed now :) |
| 20:27.14 | koen|slug | heh |
| 20:27.23 | koen|slug | I think freenode compensated for that |
| 20:29.03 | RP__ | I've noticed. Looks like I need to use a registered nickname if I don't want to get spammed to death by the system :-/ |
| 20:29.47 | koen|slug | heh |
| 20:30.03 | koen|slug | you'll get spammed to death by lilo anyway |
| 20:30.30 | RP__ | he can live in his own little window though :) |
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| 20:35.35 | gremlin[it] | who have a zaurus 1000/3000/3100 ??? |
| 20:36.04 | RP | gremlin[it]: I have a C3000 |
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| 20:49.14 | mickeyl | heya |
| 20:49.26 | koen|slug | hey mickeyl |
| 20:49.50 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 20:51.00 | mickeyl | battery readings are better now |
| 20:51.09 | mickeyl | although |
| 20:51.14 | mickeyl | i left the charger overnight |
| 20:51.17 | mickeyl | unplugged |
| 20:51.21 | mickeyl | then resumed |
| 20:51.26 | mickeyl | and power started by 68% |
| 20:51.46 | mickeyl | (which isn't what I'd expect :) |
| 20:51.56 | koen|slug | really bad battery |
| 20:52.04 | koen|slug | sharp quality ;) |
| 20:52.10 | mickeyl | heh |
| 20:52.11 | mickeyl | not quite |
| 20:52.29 | mickeyl | merely an artifact of the new power code i suspect |
| 20:52.30 | RP | mickeyl: I see that as well. I have altered the power reporting so its either that, or we're losing power badly when suspended... |
| 20:53.40 | RP | mickeyl: The suspend when pulling the charger issue out is resolved then? |
| 20:53.55 | mickeyl | didn't check that yet. i unplugged while it was sleeping |
| 20:54.30 | mickeyl | yep |
| 20:54.32 | mickeyl | that's ok now |
| 20:55.05 | RP | excellent |
| 20:55.09 | RP | and the backlight? |
| 20:56.59 | emte | hmm |
| 20:58.01 | mickeyl | RP: backlight nearly good |
| 20:58.03 | mickeyl | two things |
| 20:58.38 | mickeyl | a) echo $maxbrightness > backlight device turns backlight off :D |
| 20:59.19 | RP | mickeyl: oops :) |
| 20:59.57 | emte | carry perhapse |
| 21:00.39 | mickeyl | b) the 0x20 check is no longer necessary and can be removed |
| 21:00.57 | mickeyl | since the if condition before obsoletes it |
| 21:01.31 | RP | mickeyl: No, it doesn't as we don't apply this for spitz (yet) |
| 21:01.48 | mickeyl | ah righto |
| 21:01.51 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 21:01.57 | mickeyl | however |
| 21:02.18 | mickeyl | we should put it into a spitz|borzoi|akita condition |
| 21:02.23 | mickeyl | or we lose 1 step |
| 21:03.16 | RP | I'll just take one off the first condition... |
| 21:03.28 | mickeyl | fair enough |
| 21:04.55 | RP | mickeyl: We really need to see what (if any) conditions spitz needs then I can start pushing spitz code |
| 21:05.06 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 21:05.11 | RP | I'm aiming to have spitz supported by 2.6.14 :) |
| 21:05.18 | mickeyl | i hope i can have a look this week |
| 21:05.23 | mickeyl | that'd rock |
| 21:06.02 | RP | mickeyl: I think you'll be impressed with the position its in. Just missing sound and usb client now |
| 21:06.41 | koen|slug | RP: isn't it using pxa27x_udc? |
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| 21:06.58 | RP | koen|slug: Not yet. I need to pinch that from hh.org |
| 21:07.05 | RP | I'm told it has bugs... |
| 21:07.31 | koen|slug | which is a tad better as not working at all :) |
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| 21:12.37 | RP | koen|slug: Neither sound or udc are big issues. I just need time to spend on them |
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| 21:35.06 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf522bba0... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.64.bb: gpe-calendar: add 0.64 |
| 21:38.09 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r65bc784d... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: update gpe-calendar to 0.64 |
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| 21:56.22 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r697cade2... 10/packages/efl++/ (6 files): efl++: upgrade to 0.0.3 |
| 21:57.07 | koen|slug | mickeyl: is preferred-e-versions.inc still up to data? |
| 21:57.12 | koen|slug | date* |
| 21:57.23 | mickeyl | ah |
| 21:57.28 | mickeyl | totally forgot that |
| 21:57.37 | mickeyl | it's no longer necessary since our cleanup |
| 21:57.49 | mickeyl | it may be again when we add cvs versions, but until now, just don't include it |
| 22:01.14 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r558bb65f... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: |
| 22:01.14 | CIA-3 | familiar-0.8.3.conf: don't include stale preferred-e-versions.inc |
| 22:01.14 | CIA-3 | 23:57 < mickeyl> it's no longer necessary since our cleanup |
| 22:01.14 | CIA-3 | 23:57 < mickeyl> it may be again when we add cvs versions, but until now, just don't include it |
| 22:01.36 | mickeyl | heh |
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| 22:04.00 | mreimer | Will udev be fixed in time for familiar-0.8.3? |
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| 22:06.27 | mickeyl | i think we would need some udev experts to write rules for what we did with hotplug |
| 22:07.08 | koen|slug | 'night all |
| 22:07.13 | mickeyl | n8 koen |
| 22:07.33 | mickeyl | and the start script is outdated |
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| 22:07.54 | mickeyl | we should use the one that ships with udev |
| 22:08.24 | mickeyl | (+ add the missing lsb stuff) |
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| 22:11.44 | RP | Sorting hotplug/udev would be nice... |
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| 22:11.56 | florian | hi all |
| 22:12.32 | mickeyl | yo florian |
| 22:13.38 | RP | mickeyl: I've just sent a rather long mail to lakml about spitz support :) |
| 22:13.41 | RP | hi florian |
| 22:13.46 | mickeyl | RP: excellent |
| 22:13.54 | mickeyl | I'm waiting for 2.6.13-mm |
| 22:14.06 | mickeyl | (and for 2.6.13-mdk, but that's a different story...) |
| 22:14.24 | florian | :-) |
| 22:15.12 | RP | Hmmm. rmk has processed my patches. 1 accepted. 1 complained about. 1 binned outright |
| 22:15.33 | gerwinin | Hey Florian |
| 22:15.45 | RP | Please move into the RTC driver. Er, which rtc driver... the one he won't allow into mainline? :-/ |
| 22:15.46 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rdec7ffeb... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.65.bb: gpe-sessionscripts: New release using xserver-common. |
| 22:15.47 | gerwinin | Zecke: how was ifa ? |
| 22:15.50 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r349864fb... 10/packages/gpe-dm/gpe-dm_0.48.bb: New release making use of xserver-common. |
| 22:15.54 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r9c64df1a... 10/packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_0.82.bb: New release improving access restrictions. |
| 22:15.58 | mickeyl | RP: hah :/ |
| 22:15.58 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r5f01ba35... 10/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.1.bb: xserver-common: New package providing common X support files and scripts. |
| 22:16.02 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r160720a4... 10/packages/e17/entrance_20050810.bb: Use xserver-common instead of x11-common. |
| 22:16.13 | florian | oops sorry... |
| 22:16.20 | mickeyl | no need to |
| 22:16.22 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:16.25 | florian | :-) |
| 22:16.42 | mickeyl | excited, even |
| 22:17.05 | mickeyl | RP: I don't know why he doesn't apply the naked boot patches from Nico either |
| 22:17.18 | mickeyl | they seem to be pretty straightforward |
| 22:18.22 | RP | How bad will it look if I reply "Please provide rtc driver for me to move them into"? :) |
| 22:19.59 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:20.02 | mickeyl | sounds a bit hard |
| 22:20.32 | mickeyl | better "I'd love to but that needs patch #foo-bar being applied. Any reason why that's being delayed?" |
| 22:29.16 | mickeyl | well at least he said "please" :) |
| 22:32.59 | RP | I've sent him an email about it and the other standard things I ask him each kernel release :) |
| 22:33.20 | RP | Can we have an RTC driver. Can we have an irda driver. At least the SD issue looks resolved... |
| 22:37.13 | RP | mickeyl: I found an opie bug btw - start opie for the first time with a CF card its never seen. The new CF card dialog will appear over the touchscreen calibration one... |
| 22:37.40 | dan2003 | has anybody looked at the agere source which would get the linksys WCF54G 54g cf card working? its curently only avaible for 2.4 series kernel and only tested on x86 but i have been look ing at some howtos for porting to kernel 2.6, and then would like to find time to look at making it work on arm if it doesnt anyway |
| 22:38.50 | RP | dan2003: Generally for something like that you need to find people with the hardware... |
| 22:39.37 | dan2003 | k, im considering geting it, but need to asses finance after i'v bought a asus wl500g amongst other things |
| 22:40.48 | mickeyl | RP: this only occurs when you don't rm $HOME/Settings/*.conf |
| 22:41.08 | mickeyl | RP: ah no |
| 22:41.12 | mickeyl | nevermind, you're right |
| 22:41.17 | mickeyl | you're not talking about medium mount |
| 22:41.21 | mickeyl | you're talking about pcmciaapplet |
| 22:41.34 | mickeyl | i need to apply the same fix to pcmciaapplet |
| 22:42.00 | dan2003 | anybody else got one of these toyes? (asus wl500g) |
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| 23:06.08 | mickeyl | g'night |
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| 23:21.56 | florian | night |
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| 23:28.56 | ZonE-HaKin9| | morning All ;) |
| 23:29.40 | ZonE-HaKin9| | is anyone else having probs with updating their oe.db from the 3-4 servers?? |
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