irclog2html for #oe on 20050624

00:05.35arrasei read the documentation and i can't find how to fix my CVS, here say i need bitkeeper
00:09.38Luke-Jrarrase: there are no snapshots anymore
00:10.44Luke-Jranyone have problems writing bbs with stuff trying to link against native libs (instead of cross-libs)?
00:15.42Luke-Jr/usr/lib/libXext.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized
00:15.45Luke-Jrliek that
00:16.30arrasei do update bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/openembedded openembedded but i have the same error, what i'm doing bad?
00:20.29Luke-Jrupdate bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded openembedded
00:25.33arrasethanks
00:32.49*** join/#oe cide1_ (~cide1@207-118-143-214.dyn.centurytel.net)
00:33.37arrasewell, now runs but ipkg-utils/ipkg-utils-native_1.6cvs.bb depends on itself (eventually)
00:33.50arrasewhat is that?
00:34.15Luke-Jr...
00:34.21arraseciclic depends?
00:36.19Luke-Jrwfm
00:36.45Luke-JrCP|AtHome: any idea about linking?
00:37.19*** join/#oe jnc (~erisha@c-67-184-244-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
00:38.07*** part/#oe JoeLlama (snork@c-24-130-92-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
00:45.23arrasei can see lot ao people in google with the same problem but i can find the fix
00:45.33arraseNOTE: no buildable providers for ipkg-utils-native
00:47.43*** join/#oe jnc (~erisha@c-67-184-244-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
00:52.43*** join/#oe jnc (~erisha@c-67-184-244-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
01:11.14*** join/#oe jnc (~erisha@c-67-184-244-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
01:17.22*** join/#oe xep (misha@dsl027-176-045.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
01:17.41*** join/#oe Geo_KM (~keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com)
01:23.06*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mf53c36d0.tmodns.net)
01:35.01*** join/#oe noclouds (~mhfan@60.166.162.200)
01:48.34*** join/#oe BigAl (~bigal@220-253-116-248.ACT.netspace.net.au)
01:58.26*** join/#oe jnc_ (~erisha@c-67-184-244-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
02:05.19*** join/#oe raster (~raster@vagw.valinux.co.jp)
02:09.05*** join/#oe synth (~cb@pcp838545pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net)
02:09.44*** join/#oe offroadgeek (~offroadge@offroadgeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc)
02:10.40*** join/#oe mithro (~tim@ppp195-250.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net)
02:46.08*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mf53c36d0.tmodns.net)
04:11.41*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mf53c36d0.tmodns.net)
04:23.55*** join/#oe Geo_KM (~keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com)
04:25.20*** join/#oe Geo_KM (~keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com)
04:29.17*** join/#oe _fishynet (fishy@adsl-215-225-94.aep.bellsouth.net)
04:31.10emtewheres my man raster
04:31.37emtefinally i am putting in some time on biohazard
04:31.41emte:)
04:31.53emtehopefully you havent changed ecore too much
04:32.18emtebuilding the new one now
04:32.50rasteremmie!
04:33.07emteman thats a beautiful sight ... code scrolling past
04:33.10emte:)
04:33.13rasteru shouldnt have to change ecore really :)
04:33.39emteits been a while and i am not sure why my linker doesnt like it so a recompile cant hurt
04:34.42emteonce i get a few things going i'll give you a user account on my portal to complain about my bad codig :P
04:34.49emtecoding*
04:35.37emtei've already had voidengineer/stderr compalin about my use of QT doxygen style
04:35.42emtecomplain*
04:36.37emtehmm,
04:36.46emteodd  ... ecore errored ...
04:37.21emte../../src/lib/ecore_evas/.libs/libecore_evas.so: undefined reference to `evas_key_modifier_is_set'
04:37.21emte../../src/lib/ecore_evas/.libs/libecore_evas.so: undefined reference to `evas_key_lock_is_set'
04:37.21emtecollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
04:37.26emte:(
04:37.36emtelooks like i have other things to fix
04:51.39*** join/#oe treke- (~ggilbert@tinman.treke.net)
04:52.58emteraster, you gotta fix edevelope .... if you expect anyone to read it
04:55.22rasteri dont run that site
04:55.24rasterthus cant fix
04:55.25raster::)
04:55.27emteah
04:57.50emtethen fix it
04:57.56Luke-Jremte: I don't know how =p
04:58.00emteinstead of telling someone else
04:58.26emtethere is the try-try-try again methodology
04:58.29Luke-JrI've spent hours on it
04:58.43Luke-Jrand it seems like something that would be obvious to more experienced cross-compilers
04:59.53Luke-Jraww... *please*?
04:59.59emteplease what?
05:00.06Luke-Jrhelp me, please? :)
05:00.23emtefix your problem?  i'll fix it if you finish my window manager
05:00.44Luke-Jrfinish it how?
05:01.02emtewell since i lost all the code i had before i am starting almost from scratch again
05:01.07Luke-Jr>.>
05:01.12Luke-Jrundelete?
05:01.16emtelol
05:01.40emtethat doesnt really work for rm -Rf <wrongdir>
05:02.28Luke-Jrthe good news is, I've found that rewriting something often results in a much better version
05:02.43emteyeah possibly
05:03.01Luke-JrIf I had the time (haha), I'd probably delete every project when I was done with it and rewrite
05:04.30emtethats not really productive
05:04.45emterewritting only works on a very small scale
05:05.18Luke-Jrwell, often my projects are in the form of patches :)
05:05.33emteah
05:05.35Luke-Jrif I made a large change, it's usually in a set of smaller changes
05:05.37Luke-Jrmake*
05:06.33Luke-Jrvery rarely are large monolithic changes necessary
05:09.41emtehey raster ...
05:09.55emteslight problem .. maybe you cant give me a hint
05:10.03emteemte@t:~/e17/libs/ecore$ ld -lecore
05:10.03emteld: warning: canemte@t:~/e17/libs/ecore$ ld -lecore
05:10.03emteld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; not setting start address
05:10.03emtenot find entry symbol _start; not setting start address
05:10.32emtehmm starnge double paste
05:12.09emtehad all of the symbols capitalized and the linker didn't like that, so I simply set everything back to lower-case letters and it did the trick.
05:12.16emteinteresting ...
05:13.59rastererrr
05:14.05rastertheres no actual EXECUTABLE
05:14.13rasteru're linking libcore to nothing
05:14.17rasterits lookign for _start
05:14.20emteyeah i just noticed that :P
05:14.23rasterwhich the kernel runs first
05:14.27emtedoing a few locates
05:14.29rasterwhich then runs main()
05:14.38Luke-Jrraster: any chance you could look at the problem I'm having? ^^;
05:15.14rasterLuke-Jr: what problem?
05:15.18emtetrying to remind myself how i did all this before ...
05:15.52Luke-Jrraster: last post on oe-devel list
05:16.14rasteri'm not on oe-devel
05:16.16raster:)
05:16.26Luke-Jroh... I'll pastebin it then
05:16.57Luke-Jrhttp://pastebin.ca/15730
05:17.11*** join/#oe xep (misha@dsl027-176-045.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net)
05:20.40Luke-Jro.o
05:23.42*** join/#oe synth (~cb@pcp838545pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net)
05:23.56*** join/#oe synth2 (~cb@pcp838545pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net)
05:27.48emteemte@t:~/E-Test$ ./e-timer.o
05:27.48emte./e-timer.o: error while loading shared libraries: libecore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
05:28.01emtestupid damn thing ...
05:28.21emteatleast i rememered how to compile ... :) thats a bonus
05:29.21emtenow where is my documentation journal
05:32.17emteAHA
05:32.35emtewas missing /usr/local/lib in my ld.so.conf :P
05:32.43emtei knew it was something easy
05:33.43*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@m743036d0.tmodns.net)
05:35.21emtehmm
05:35.35*** join/#oe Geo_KM (~keith@bh02i525f01.au.ibm.com)
05:51.36*** join/#oe BigAl (~bigal@220-253-116-248.ACT.netspace.net.au)
05:54.59emtehey raster do you really have any preference for fail/success exit values?   i just noticed all the examples use 0 for success instead of 1
05:55.17rasteri prefer revers
05:55.19raster0 = fail
05:55.22raster1 = success
05:55.24emtei normally just use the EXIT_SUCCESS macro
05:55.31emteyeah
05:55.40emtegood
05:55.41emte:)
05:55.57emte1 makes more sense to me as well
05:56.15emteand 90% of nix apps are that way
06:01.56emtehmm
06:02.16emte%*s  prints multiple strings?
06:02.48Luke-Jrum
06:02.59Luke-Jrlast I checked, 90% of *nix apps have 0=success and 1=fail
06:03.15Luke-Jrit's also what && and || assume in BASH
06:03.18emtenope
06:03.42Luke-Jrum... yep
06:04.10Luke-Jrtrue; echo $?    is 0
06:04.13Luke-Jrfalse; echo $?    is 1
06:06.17emtei'll take your word for it ... i'll check EXIT_SUCCESS in a couple min
06:07.20emtehey raster has anyone written an ecore reference manual yet?
06:08.25rasternot really
06:08.30rastertheres docs that get generated
06:08.34rasterif u run ./gendoc
06:08.41rasterbut its not complete
06:25.43emteyeah thats what i figured ...
06:25.57emtewonder how much docy will give me
06:26.00emtedoxy*
06:27.17emtenice ... the client-server tests are working beautifully
06:27.47emtetime for the base evas canvas
06:28.01emtethen the real playing begins
06:28.57emtebtw Luke-Jr i just looked at your post ... thats not a bug
06:29.07emteyour enviorment is messed up
06:29.20emtere-source your config file
06:29.39emteyour tools are trying to access your host system
06:31.03Luke-Jremte: ...why tho?
06:31.32Luke-Jrit's a bug somewhere... everything else works
06:32.07emtebeacuse somehow your shell changed its inheriting values
06:32.24emtemaybe you re-logged in, switched terminals, etc
06:32.28Luke-Jrnope
06:32.33Luke-Jrsame shell I just build gpe-image with
06:33.01emtelike i said just re-export your config and you should be fine
06:33.23Luke-Jrnope, same thing
06:33.26emteyour tolls should NEVER access your host system
06:33.29emtetools*
06:33.44emteit almost always means you have an enviroment or config error
06:33.48Luke-Jrthat's the problem... why are they?
06:34.13emteit almost always means you have an enviroment or config error   <-
06:34.17Luke-Jroe_runconf should take care of it, right?
06:34.27Luke-Jrenvironment is fine...
06:34.40emtethe other rare situation is someone hardcoded the metadata
06:35.07Luke-Jr?
06:36.13emtedifference between what?
06:36.42Luke-Jr"hardcoded the metadata"-- what is hardcoded?
06:37.19Luke-Jrhttp://pastebin.ca/15736 <-- current bb
06:37.48emtehard coded means explicitly set
06:38.04emtein a way that BB cannot override it
06:38.49emteyou have to be kidding me
06:38.59Luke-JrI do? :|
06:39.01emteyou expect kde to run on a pda?
06:39.09Luke-Jryes
06:39.18Luke-Jrif FireFox can, KDE certainly can =p
06:39.22emterflmao
06:39.30emtegood luck
06:39.40Luke-Jrwell, not a PDA
06:39.41Luke-Jra Zaurus
06:39.45Luke-Jrwhich is a handheld
06:40.27Luke-Jr--enable-final --without-debug, strip, and non-compiling legacy libs
06:40.30Luke-Jrmainly
06:41.14*** join/#oe rwhitby-away (~rwhitby@rwhitby.nslu2-linux)
06:41.45emtelol
06:41.56emteanyway what does $HOST_SYS return ?
06:42.24Luke-Jrarm-linux, I expect
06:44.48emtetype echo $HOST-SYS
06:46.37Luke-JrO.o... where?
06:47.14Luke-Jrdo_configure?
07:04.58emteokay that will teach me to check my loops .... raster ecore/evas is too fast :P
07:05.20emtewas spawning canvases faster than i could ctrl+c the server
07:05.38emtetook 15 min to ssh in and kill it
07:18.31*** join/#oe Snoogie (~Snoogie@gob75-5-82-231-180-13.fbx.proxad.net)
07:19.31*** join/#oe koen (~koen@cl-148.ams-05.nl.sixxs.net)
07:19.51koengood morning all
07:33.19*** join/#oe ram123 (~ram123@203.196.146.243)
07:33.58ram123not able to download openembedded; bitkeeper is giving message connection timed out ? any solutions to this problem ?
07:34.30ram123i could not also download bitblake svn also says connection timed out.
07:34.55ram123is there any way i can download tar files and unzip them and work on them ?.
07:35.09ram123does bitblake require svn or cvs will do ?.
07:36.16koenram123: looks like you're behind a firewall
07:36.30ram123yes i am behind a firewall.
07:36.47ram123and my comp does not allow anyone to work without a firewall.
07:37.01ram123is there any solution to work behind a firewall.
07:38.10*** join/#oe lexlynch (~lexlynch@210.76.115.33)
07:38.23ram123i want to build X and GPE using oe and bitblake
07:38.35koenonce you get the software you should be able to work behind a firewall
07:39.09hrw|workmorning
07:39.20koenhey hrw|work
07:41.16ram123but how to get the software in the first place sir
07:41.38ram123u mean each of the dependend libs also need to be downloaded with out a firewall ?
07:43.02koenhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bitbake.tar.bz2
07:43.05hrw|workkoen: give him archived snapshots of bitbake and OE if you can - then rest of work should work for him
07:43.09*** join/#oe noclouds (~mhfan@60.166.168.45)
07:43.26koenand http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bk-export.tar.bz2
07:43.55koenhrw|work: I had to wait for bk export and tar to finish :)
07:44.04hrw|work;)
07:44.51ram123so i need to down load these software and do what ?.
07:45.03ram123it does not work with svn right ?
07:45.27ram123is there any diff. downloading using svn and bitkeeper and downloading just the tar file ?
07:45.55ram123the steps in getting started do they hold good if the downloaded files are tar files.
07:46.05ram123i mean the subsequent steps
07:46.37koenthe subsequent steps should be the same
07:46.53ram123so no need to use svn
07:47.07ram123or should i use some other version control sys ?.
07:47.23koenthere shouldn't be any need
07:47.56ram123but does downloading dependend libs for a package say gpe use svn ?
07:48.18hrw|workgpe release tarballs
07:48.22koennot that I know off
07:48.29hrw|workopie release only in cvs
07:48.33koenmaybe uclibc
07:48.47ram123or svn is only used in my case is for local make, build and release ?
07:48.48koenbut oesources.org should have it mirrored
07:48.53hrw|workand if you will use CVS_TARBALL_STASH then you need only wget/curl working
07:49.10koenram123: svn is only used to get bitbake
07:49.21koenand bk is only used to get the OE data
07:49.34ram123but what about local version control ?
07:54.51*** join/#oe Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.98)
07:55.35*** part/#oe Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.98)
08:02.10*** join/#oe gnufan (~mhfan@60.166.168.99)
08:11.01hrw|workreboot.. after 23days
08:11.04hrw|workbrb
08:13.58hrw|workre
08:29.01ram123hello
08:29.22ram123but what about the local version control and release control. is svn used for that ?
08:34.37hrw|workram123: ?
08:35.33*** join/#oe chris144|work (~oe_newbie@host-62-245-140-194.customer.m-online.net)
08:36.31ram123i was told svn is only for downloading bitblake. is it also used for local version control system of builds and releases ?
08:37.14hrw|workwe tag repo when there is release
08:37.51hrw|workyou can create distro configs for releases like it is done with openzaurus and familiar in openembedded/conf/distro/
08:38.15ram123just downloaded and http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bk-export.tar.bz2
08:38.15ram123<PROTECTED>
08:38.25ram123what does this file contain bitblake ?
08:38.39hrw|workhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bk-export.tar.bz2 is OE, http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bitbake.tar.bz2 is bitbake
08:38.40ram123how different is it from svn downloaded bitblake ?
08:38.49hrw|workyou need both
08:39.06hrw|workOE is metadata repo, bitbake is a tool which build stuff from OE
08:39.34ram123do i need to download  http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bitbake.tar.bz2 ?
08:39.47ram123i have downloaded http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/bk-export.tar.bz2
08:39.58hrw|work24 10:38 < hrw|work> you need both
08:40.16hrw|workhave you read GettingStarted?
08:40.36*** join/#oe _alwin_ (alwin@cable-195-14-254-162.netcologne.de)
08:41.26ram123yes
08:41.52hrw|workso you should know that you need both
08:42.57ram123this is not mentioned in getting started ?
08:42.58*** join/#oe qfh (~qfh@ppp-82-135-5-186.mnet-online.de)
08:44.03*** join/#oe adamb (~adamb@213.210.24.6)
08:44.30ram123ya got it !
08:44.55hrw|workTo start using OE, you must first obtain the build tool that it needs (bitbake):
08:45.01ram123bitblake.tar.bz2 is bitblake and bk-export.tar.bz2 is meta data
08:45.06hrw|workNext, you'll need to obtain the actual OpenEmbedded repository, which has our build classes, configuration files, and packages.
08:45.14ram123u need bitblake to build on meta data.
08:45.22ram123just like make on makefiles
08:45.25ram123am i right ?
08:45.25hrw|workexactly
08:45.41hrw|workyes
08:46.06ram123but what is this openembedded rep
08:46.19ram123i though bk-exports.tar.bz2 contains that!
08:46.41mickeylgood morning !
08:46.59koenhey mickeyl
08:47.06koenhow was LinuxDay?
08:47.52mickeylLinuxTag was very cool. I met nice people, played with a Nokia 770, had some good talks, and the streets were empty enough to finally see how my new car behaves on the Autobahn ;))
08:48.07hrw|workhi mickeyl
08:48.18hrw|workram123: bk-export is OE
08:48.45hrw|workmickeyl: closed speedmeter?
08:48.59hrw|works/speed/speedo
08:49.30ram123bk-export only contains meta data ?.
08:49.36koenram123: yes
08:49.49ram123but why do we require rep ?
08:50.02koen?
08:50.41ram123openembedded repository
08:50.53ram123why is it needed ?
08:51.16koenbecause that hold the metadata
08:51.33ram123so bk-exports and repository are the same ?
08:51.50koenyes
08:52.10koenbk-export is the result of running 'bk export' in the repo
08:52.44ram123the repo which u downloaded using bitkeeper ?
08:52.50koenyes
08:53.04ram123ie u download repo using bitkeeper and then run bk exports ?
08:53.19mickeylhrw|work: heh, not really. When I'm alone I don't driver faster than 180Km/h. Only when I just risk my own live :)
08:53.32mickeyls/alone/not alone/
08:53.33hrw|work;)
08:53.56hrw|workanyway I never drive faster then 140kmh
08:54.12mickeylto be honest, that's my speed of choice, as well
08:54.30hrw|workmickeyl: but your car probably have a power for it
08:54.31koenram123: no, we work directly on the downloaded repo
08:54.48koenram123: but you were behind a firewall, so I exported it for you
08:54.50mickeylhrw|work: yeah, 190PS :)
08:55.05hrw|worklast time I drive 140kmh it was Peugeot 205 with 1.6l - 90PS
08:55.45mickeylin many cars, maximum speed is more a question of audio, then of horsepower :)
08:55.51mickeylif it's too loud, i don't feel good
08:55.56hrw|workI hate battery/power management in c7x0
08:56.14mickeylah btw., on-topic... 2.6.12-mm1 on the C7x0 survived the LinuxTag stress test
08:56.20mickeylnot one crash
08:56.31hrw|workmickeyl: you should drive 120kmh in  Polish FIAT 125p then ;)
08:56.35koenand s/r even plays nice with X and wlan
08:56.37mickeylhrw|work: eeks ;)
08:57.00hrw|workmickeyl: at 80 I was shutdown radio - engine was louder
08:58.41koentry doing 50 on your bike
08:58.53hrw|workkoen: my bike record was 45
08:58.56mickeylheh
08:59.48hrw|workbut no radio..
08:59.51koenhrw|work: I cheated by getting pushed by a motorcycle
08:59.57*** join/#oe mallum (~mallum@host81-153-48-212.range81-153.btcentralplus.com)
09:01.37ram123ok i downloaded bitbake and bk-exports untarred them. what should i do now ?
09:02.43ram123bk-exports created a dir called exports and where should i put them if i want the directory structure as mentioned in getting started ?
09:03.04koenmv exports openembedded
09:04.16ram123i have one more file openembedded-exported-2005-03-01-0700.tar.bz2 what is it the repo ?
09:04.18koenmickeyl: I got some monotne activity last night, so it seems people are trying it out :)
09:05.08mickeylkoen: glad to hear. we can assume that it has been decided by now.
09:05.11hrw|workram123: openembedded-exported-2005-03-01-0700.tar.bz2 is old one
09:05.22mickeylthe other guys' had time to complain, but nothing was heard :)
09:05.32hrw|workso time to install monotone here
09:05.48mickeylya
09:05.57koenmickeyl: this is in my .bashrc: http://pastebin.ca/15746
09:05.57ram123ok
09:06.01ram123what should i do now ?
09:06.25ram123i have 2 dirs: bitbake and openembedded ?
09:06.45hrw|workram123: and thats good
09:07.05hrw|workram123: now read GettingStarted and skip parts which say about obtaining bitbake and OE
09:07.16Twiunmornin'
09:08.39*** join/#oe noclouds (~mhfan@60.166.168.99)
09:09.10hrw|workhmm.. my debian has /bin/mt which is not included in any package
09:09.44hrw|work~lart monotone manual
09:09.58mickeylkoen: handy
09:11.40hrw|workyou generate one key for all locations or one per each copy of OE?
09:11.56hrw|workI mean one for work, one  for home etc
09:13.28*** join/#oe alwin_ (alwin@cable-195-14-198-246.netcologne.de)
09:13.41ram123i did not get BBFILES ?. what should i do with it in local.conf ?
09:13.57hrw|workram123: its list of recipes
09:14.07koenBBFILES contains the path to the .bb files
09:14.19hrw|workram123: set it to place_with_openembedded/packages/*/*.bb (like in conf/local.conf.sample)
09:14.31hrw|workkoen: should I send pubkey to you?
09:14.55koenhrw|work: yes please
09:15.10hrw|workok
09:15.32koen<cia> Revision e4e062c0df6112a06956f32eaf622fe950c03008: ring us up to date with bk: cset 1.3598.1.1
09:16.33*** join/#oe zinga (~arnaudb@186.80-203-227.nextgentel.com)
09:17.08koenmickeyl: could you have a look at ciabot_monotone.py?
09:17.22hrw|worksent
09:18.05ram123fine.
09:18.20mickeylkoen: ya will take a look
09:18.26ram123i want to build a tool chain and not understanding what to modify in local.conf ?
09:18.38ram123for arm processor ? omap 5912
09:19.11koenMACHINE="omap5192osk"
09:19.13hrw|workram123: MACHINE=omap5912osk
09:19.30hrw|workram123: and DISTRO="generic" (for start)
09:20.57ram123what should i do with preferred providers ?
09:21.41koenhrw|work: key added
09:21.44hrw|workok
09:22.23koenI wonder why it keeps saying "read failed" when you try to pull
09:22.48hrw|workI pressed ^c in wrong window
09:23.30hrw|workanyway it do anonymous pull
09:23.53mickeylhmm
09:24.06mickeylwhere the hell has fb_sysmove_buf_aligned gone
09:24.53hrw|work~lart bedic
09:26.15hrw|workmickeyl: how to add "-fexceptions" into libbedic? it's "inherit palmtop" recipe
09:26.38ram123what should i do with PREFERRED_PROVIDERS  in local.conf. should i modify it ?
09:27.42mickeylhrw|work: try EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST = "CXXFLAGS += -fexceptions"
09:28.02mickeyliirc the last -f[no]exceptions counts
09:29.43*** join/#oe pb_ (~pb@2002:5246:d929:1:20a:5eff:fe00:391e)
09:31.10koenmonotone-viz is pretty cute: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/monotone-viz.tiff
09:32.20mickeylnice
09:32.28mickeylmorning pb
09:33.38hrw|workNOTE: package libbedic-0.9.6-r0: task do_build: completed
09:33.49hrw|worknow I need to make it work automagically...
09:34.20hrw|workdo_configure_append() { patch makefile which we just generated} :)
09:34.26mickeylaa ha!
09:34.28mickeyl-                               move_aligned(info, &info->pixmap, dst, pitch,
09:34.28mickeyl-                                            src, idx, image.height);
09:34.28mickeyl+                               fb_pad_aligned_buffer(dst, pitch, src, idx, image.height);
09:34.43mickeyl2.6.12-mm1 contains some fb revamp patches
09:38.18ram123ok what commands i should give from build directory to build toolchain and libs ?
09:38.51ram123i want with out docs ; becuase i could not compile jade ?
09:39.13koenbitbake jade should build jade + deps + toolchain
09:39.33koenactually I'm lying
09:39.35hrw|workram123: "bitbake gcc-cross" should give you toolchain
09:39.39koenwe don't have jade yet
09:40.09*** join/#oe zecke_ (fakeuser@p54BD3928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:44.46mickeylhey zecke. finally arrived home?
09:45.23CIA-703mickeyl 07 * r1.3603.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus-2.6.12-mm1: repair elpp which has been broken by fb patches in -mm1
09:45.54hrw|workfbpatches does not broke elpp - elpp is b0rken
09:45.57hrw|work;)
09:46.17rwhitby-awaykoen, mickeyl: can we start pushing nslu2-linux changes into the monotone repository?
09:46.47koenrwhitby: you mean into the nslu2 branches?
09:47.03hrw|workmickeyl: libbedic is weird.. adding CXXFLAGS+=-fexceptions to second qmake in do_configure or into EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST does not work
09:47.19rwhitbykoen, we're already doing that, I mean propagating into the .dev branch
09:48.14mickeylhrw|work: push it, i'll take look
09:48.28koenrwhitby: go ahead
09:48.56ram123should i get glibc headers (mentioned in required software) ?
09:51.16rwhitbykoen: thx.  has the decision been made, or are we still in the eleventh hour?
09:51.57koenit's pretty offical now, but we'll wait another day or so before making it really official
09:52.06rwhitbyok, cool.
09:52.12jacquesquasi-official ?
09:52.19rwhitbywe're still debating how to handle the pushes back to oe from nslu2-linux.
09:52.35*** join/#oe dkey| (~dkey@193.170.48.234)
09:53.20rwhitbywe will be pulling from oe hourly (to keep in sync), and may even propagate from oe to nslu2 on each pull.  we will _not_ propagate from nslu2 to oe except by explicit manual core developer command.
09:53.20mickeyland we have to setup the official tree @ oe.org
09:54.33rwhitbythe question is: do you ever want to have nslu2 branches in your repo, or would be prefer that you never see any org.nslu2-linux branches at all, and any transfer between oe and nslu2 is done by the nslu2 core team developers?
09:54.56rwhitby(and then those core team developers push back to your .dev branch)
09:55.06ram123when i do bitbake gcc-cross i get the following error:                                                                                                                            
09:55.13hrw|workram123: use pastebin.ca
09:55.23hrw|work~pastebin
09:55.23ibothmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
09:56.03CIA-703hrw 07 * r1.3604.1.1 10openembedded/packages/zbedic/libbedic_0.9.6.bb: added libbedic 0.9.6
09:56.07ram123http://pastebin.ca/15748
09:56.19mickeylrwhitby: i'd like to have it the first way
09:56.46hrw|workmickeyl: look at it if you can
09:56.49mickeylrwhitby: i'd like to regularly sync with your tree and to give your core devels direct access to the main tree
09:56.58mickeylhrw|work: will od
09:57.01mickeyldo, even
09:57.37hrw|workram123: you need "export PYTHONPATH=place_with_bitbake/lib/bb" or sth like that probably
09:58.47*** join/#oe maisheri (~hiteshm@rasbtnlChn-static-252.184.145.203.touchtelindia.net)
09:59.21*** join/#oe yuecelm (~yuecelm@vslab-dhcp-30.inf.ethz.ch)
09:59.22rwhitbymickeyl: can I ask why you want access to the nslu2-linux branches (we're happy to do that, but I'm not sure we're on the same page yet - I may not have explained our proposal sufficiently) ?
09:59.36rwhitbyagreed on the core devs access to main tree
10:00.05ram123i am getting the same error ?
10:00.11rwhitbywe were expecting that the nslu2 core devs would push to the main oe tree at stable points in nslu2 development (but still fairly regularly)
10:00.22ram123export PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/bitbake/lib/python2.3/site-packages/bb
10:00.29rwhitbyfor files that are used by other oe distros, we would push those asap.
10:00.46rwhitbyfor files that are only used by nslu2, we would push those after a stable build
10:01.08mickeylrwhitby: ah right. sorry, i confused that.
10:01.14koenrwhitby: I sync mickeyl mixed up 'sync' and 'pull'
10:01.40mickeylyep
10:01.59mickeylI'm ok with that way of working
10:02.12rwhitbyok, so the oe repo will serve up org.openembedded, and only contain org.openembedded branches.
10:02.40rwhitbythe nslu2-linux repo will serve up org.nslu2-linux branches, but will also contain org.openembedded branches (by pulling them from the oe repo directly).
10:03.15rwhitbynslu2-linux project members will usually only access the org.nslu2-linux branches.
10:03.44koenI suspect monotone can 'protect' branches
10:03.44rwhitbynslu2-linux core developers will access both sets of branches, to be able to propagate nslu2 changes back to the main oe branch in a controlled manner.
10:03.53rwhitbykoen: yes, in the monotonerc
10:04.08rwhitbyour core developers are the only ones allowed to have @nslu2-linux.org id's for the keys.
10:04.41CIA-703hrw 07 * r1.3607 10openembedded/packages/zbedic/ (zbedic_0.9.6.bb zbedic-0.9.6/qtopia17.patch): added zbedic 0.9.6
10:04.45hrw|workmickeyl: when you fix libbedic 0.9.6 then please remove 0.9.4
10:05.04rwhitbythe reason why I prefer that org.nslu2-linux branches don't appear in the oe repo is because there is other stuff in there which is unrelated to OpenEmbedded.
10:05.32hrw|workso what is policy for keys? oedev@openembedded.org?
10:05.54rwhitbyand since your oe repo is only serving up org.openembedded, then when we push back to it, it will only accept the org.openembedded branches, and will ignore the org.nslu2-linux branches.
10:06.29mickeyl*nod*
10:06.43rwhitbymickeyl: and of course we will give access for oe core developers to the nslu2-linux repo, in case you ever need to access it for any reason.
10:07.00rwhitby(that's write access)
10:07.42rwhitbyso if you have a convention for identifying core oe devs, then that will make that access control easier (by regexp, rather than by listing individual keys).
10:09.47mickeylright. we'll think about that.
10:12.30*** join/#oe b0ti (~boti@ant.hdsnet.hu)
10:15.01NAiLrwhitby: Out of curiosity, the makefile you've created.. Does it work yet? I tried to make, and ended up with monotone screaming misuse ;)
10:17.17rwhitbyNAiL: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile should be working now.
10:17.39rwhitbymkdir /home/slug ; cd /home/slug ;  wget http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile ; make
10:17.49rwhitbythat's our complete build instructions now :-)
10:18.14mickeylhrw|work: does telnet work yet in wrt ?
10:18.15rwhitbyit has been updated since you last used it
10:18.51koenrwhitby: something like this?
10:19.18hrw|workmickeyl: openwrt has it by default but it can be removed in their config
10:19.30hrw|workmickeyl: didnt checked OE yet
10:19.35koenrwhitby: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/montone-OE.pdf
10:20.16ram123i am getting the same error ?. what is the solution ?
10:21.11NAiLrwhitby: Do I have to clean out the dir if I used the old makefile? I still get the same error
10:21.14NAiLmonotone: misuse: branch org.nslu2-linux.openembedded is empty
10:21.47mickeylhrw|work: zbedic done
10:21.53hrw|workmickeyl: cool
10:22.07CIA-703mickeyl 07 * r1.3608 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fix libbedic/zbedic 0.9.6 and remove 0.9.4
10:22.08dyoung-zzzzkoen, I think you need a "read" line to from org.nslu2-linux.* to Joe nslu2 Developer.
10:22.25rwhitbyNAiL: yeah, you need to start from scratch, or do the sync with koen's repo (which is in the setup target in the Makefile now)
10:22.26ram123please refer my error if i run bitbake ::http://pastebin.ca/15750
10:22.49rwhitbykoen: nice diagram.  yeah - an extra read line as dyoung said
10:22.49dyoung-zzzzbecause there is some other stuff in org.nslu2-linux that only is only of interest to nslu2-linux builder.
10:23.14dyoung-zzzzBut other than that, thats a nice drawing. :-)
10:24.00rwhitbykoen: BTW, we specifically put the repo on mtn.nslu2-linux.org instead of just nslu2-linux.org so that we could move it to a different machine later if necessary.
10:24.07hrw|workdyoung: if someone can write then can read also imho
10:24.38rwhitbyhrw|work: person@nslu2-linux.org is a core developer.  Joe User doesn't have an @nslu2-linux.org address.
10:24.48hrw|workah..
10:25.38rwhitbywe're restricting access to @nslu2-linux.org addresses, so that if you ever see an email or key with that, then you know you're talking to someone who has the authority to represent the nslu2-linux project.
10:26.07rwhitby(there are 10 such people)
10:26.24hrw|workok
10:45.30rwhitbywhat we will do is add other developer keys to our nslu2-linux repo (so that they can write to the org.nslu2-linux.* branches), but will restrict write access to the org.openembedded.* branches to the core team only.
10:45.48koenupdated http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/montone-OE.pdf
10:47.43dyoungthat drawing looks perfect to me.
10:48.20dyoung(I'm assuming that person@openembedded.org is a oe core dev)
10:48.26koenyes
10:49.14dyoungYep, thats wonderful!
10:49.29NAiLhmm.. non-core-devs on nslu2 can't write to the nslu2 repo?
10:51.49*** join/#oe Crofton|laptop (~balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net)
10:51.51dyounggood point.
10:51.58koenrwhitby: do you have a sample of your monotonerc?
11:01.06rwhitbykoen: http://pastebin.ca/15753
11:01.48rwhitbyI haven't done the collection-based access control yet.
11:02.22hrw|work@handhelds.org? not @openembedded.org?
11:03.17*** join/#oe zecke (fakeuser@p54BD017B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
11:03.34rwhitbyhrw|work: those were the keys that koen and mickeyl sent me
11:03.59hrw|workaah
11:04.22rwhitbydoes Joe User get @handhelds.org addresses, or are those trusted?
11:05.33rwhitbykoen: the non-core developers should be able to write to their own project's repo, but not the other one.
11:06.49koenwe don't have a core/noncore split
11:07.30hrw|workkoen: does opie-image builds for h3600?
11:07.35pb_rwhitby: @handhelds.org addresses only signify a minimal level of trust.  We don't do much vetting before handing them out.
11:07.58koenhrw|work: haven;t tested it since last week
11:08.11hrw|workkoen: but it was working then?
11:08.16rwhitbykoen: do you have one too many d's in your new key?
11:08.30rwhitbykoen@openembeddded.org
11:08.51koenaaargh
11:09.19rwhitbykoen: the only reason why we have a core/non-core split is to ensure that only experienced core developers have direct write access to your main oe repo.
11:10.06rwhitbywe appreciate the bootstrap which openembedded has given us, and never want to get into a situation where an inexperienced nslu2-linux developer stuffs up the main oe repo
11:12.46rwhitbypb_: thx - do @openembedded.org addresses get vetted?
11:13.46pb_I guess so, but I'm not sure.  I don't have an @openembedded.org address myself.
11:14.26koenrwhitby: @openembedded.org keys get trusted
11:16.21rwhitbyok, I'm changing the access to @openembedded, now that koen's key is in.
11:16.36rwhitbymickey|lunch: feel free to send a new @openembedded.org key
11:33.49ram123<PROTECTED>
11:33.56ram123unable to run bitbake ?
11:34.14ram123http://pastebin.ca/15750
11:34.29hrw|workram123: can you not prepend http with ::?
11:34.56hrw|workram123: you instaled bitbake?
11:35.01ram123yes
11:35.26hrw|workit is not needed to get it working (atleast I work like that)
11:36.14ram123i am getting bitbake error; please refer the url
11:36.37ram123my environment paths are also ok.
11:37.26hrw|workI saw that
11:37.37hrw|workanyway never had that
11:37.59hrw|worktried removing "bb/" from PYTHONPATH?
11:38.20ram123i tried removing it. but the result is the same.
11:41.17ram123i have posted my local.conf file for your reference  http://pastebin.ca/15756
11:41.45ram123what checks should i carry out on my system to analyse the problem
11:41.48hrw|workdo not use ${HOME} but full path
11:41.55hrw|work# NOTE: Do NOT use $HOME in your paths, BitBake does NOT expand ~ for you.
11:42.03hrw|workread comments
11:42.04*** join/#oe jskcr (~jskcr@jskcr.user)
11:43.07*** join/#oe mrz80 (1000@caledonia.cns.ufl.edu)
11:43.13hrw|workand I propose disabling TARGET_ARCH (it is set by machine conf), KERNEL_VERSION
11:43.47hrw|workand unset TMPDIR ot set it somewhere other then /tmp/ to get it existing after reboot
11:44.29ram123done
11:44.37ram123but getting the same error ?
11:44.52hrw|workreplaced $HOME with full path?
11:44.56ram123yes
11:45.54ram123what is this:import bb
11:45.55ram123ImportError: No module named bb
11:46.12hrw|workits python thing (and I'm not familiar with python)
11:46.21ram123it is not related to local.conf file. some other issue i feel.
11:46.58hrw|workyep
11:47.28ram123what is PREFERRED_PROVIDERS in local.conf i have not modified it from the original local.conf ?
11:49.27koenif there are multiple providers for on package (e.g. grep) you can select which one you want
11:50.11ram123i did not undertsand this PREFERRED_PROVIDERS ?. what is it for ?
11:51.11koenwe have multiple packages providing a linux kernel, so you can set a PREFERED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel=linux-somebranch
11:51.46*** join/#oe stevenh (~xev@65.167.23.2)
11:54.41ram123ok if i want kernel 2.6.11 what should i set ?
11:55.04*** join/#oe greg72 (~budayg@ns1.sysdata.hu)
11:55.11hrw|workram123: you have set kernel provider in omap5912osk.conf
11:55.14koensee conf/machine/omap5192osk.conf
11:55.46greg72off-topic: do you know a channel where I could ask gdb questions?
11:56.07ram123bitbake is working fine. i changed the PATH and PYTHONPATH variables to point to my uninstalled bitbake and it worked.
11:56.33hrw|workram123: things like which kernel to use, whch kernel modules, extra apps to install are listed in MACHINE conf - conf/machine/omap5192osk.conf for your build
11:59.08ram123but what about make menuconfig ?
11:59.59ram123does bitbake do everything by itself ?
12:00.29koenit does
12:00.30ram123i have a kernel and want to populate the file system only ?
12:00.32hrw|workram123: in openembedded/packages/linux/linux-omap(or how that is called)-version/defconfig you have config
12:00.35koenit will use packages/linux/linux-omap1-2.6.12-rc2/omap5912osk/defconfig
12:00.44ram123how do i proceed ?
12:01.08hrw|workram123: "bitbake bootstrap-image" for start probably
12:01.22*** part/#oe _law_ (~law@213.173.86.202)
12:02.13*** join/#oe |dkey| (~dkey@193.170.48.234)
12:02.16ram123great
12:02.36ram123i ma building it from scratch. toolchain onwards.
12:02.51ram123would like to know what commands i should give.
12:03.11ram123i just gave bitbake gcc-cross
12:03.16hrw|workram123: "bitbake bootstrap-image" is enough - will build all what is needed
12:03.41hrw|worklunch time...
12:03.50ram123what all will it build ?
12:04.16hrw|workdo "bitbake -n WHAT_YOU_NEED_TO_BUILD" and see
12:04.27hrw|workbbl
12:07.39ram123ping 192.216.230.225 not working. is oesources up ?
12:09.14koenit is over here
12:09.24ram123Connecting to www.oesources.org[192.216.230.225]:80... failed: Connection timed out.
12:09.33ram123thats why i am asking ?
12:10.21koenit works over here
12:12.06koenandit does seem to block pings
12:13.46ram123i thought so. but why am i getting connection timed out ?
12:14.49ram123can i manually download the file ?
12:15.01ram123and place it in which directory ?
12:16.47Crofton|laptopI can talk to http://www.oesources.org from USA
12:17.33Crofton|laptopram123, when you get OE going, I can talk to you about the OSK specific parts
12:17.40Crofton|laptopI am familiar with that work
12:18.17ram123i know. i met u in omap chat forum #OL
12:18.24Crofton|laptopyeah
12:18.26ram123and u helped me
12:18.27Crofton|laptopI know :)
12:18.42Crofton|laptopI will be better at the OSK stuff in OE
12:18.42ram123early to office today ?
12:18.48Crofton|laptopstill at home
12:19.11Crofton|laptopI need to get over early, it has not beeen a productive week
12:20.34ram123if i run bitbake again why is it starting all over gain ?. it has already build up the cache.
12:20.39ram123how to disable it.
12:21.59ram123Crofton: trying to get GPE onto osk
12:22.00*** join/#oe zecke_ (fakeuser@p54BD017B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
12:22.13zecke_hey
12:23.05koenhey zecke_
12:23.39zecke_~lart Deutsche Bahn...
12:24.08koenram123: it has to initialze the cache everytime, but it won't rebuild the toolchain
12:30.49*** join/#oe Virusmaster (~Thomas@p549CE336.dip.t-dialin.net)
12:31.23CIA-703mickeyl 07 * r1.3609 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ship opie-pcmciaapplet in the default image
12:31.41*** join/#oe |dkey| (~dkey@193.170.48.234)
12:31.44rwhitbykoen: have you considered how to advise CIA of monotone commits?
12:32.06ram123i manually downloaded quilt-native-0.39-r0] and ran bitbake gcc-cross and am getting the following error ?
12:32.36ram123http://pastebin.ca/15757
12:33.05hrw|workmickeyl: pcmciaapplet instead of cardmon one?
12:33.18mickeylhrw|work: yeah
12:33.32zecke_ram123: looks weird
12:33.41hrw|workmickeyl: so you broke opie-filemanager and libopie2
12:33.56zecke_~hail mickeyl
12:33.56ibotACTION bows down to mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
12:34.08zecke_~lart us for not shipping stock items
12:34.21hrw|workmickeyl: http://opie-bugs.oszine.de/view.php?id=1514
12:34.41koenrwhitby: I sent mickeyl after ciabot_monotone.py
12:34.58hrw|workram123: you still have TMPDIR set to /tmp/something/?
12:35.37rwhitbykoen: can you email me the setup once you sort it out?
12:36.14koenrwhitby: sure
12:36.23rwhitbythx
12:36.34koenheh, monotone didn't like me dropping my old private keys
12:37.18mickeylhrw|work: is it only pcmcia.png or more ?
12:37.28hrw|workmickeyl: pcmcia.png
12:37.35mickeylhrw|work: excellent. I'll fix that now
12:38.32hrw|workYES... finaly
12:38.51hrw|workmickeyl: but PLEASE do not do s/cardmon/pcmcia/
12:39.08hrw|workmickeyl: it NEEd to work without pcmciaapplet and without cardmon
12:39.26hrw|workso pcmcia/pcmcia.png (or how it will be called) shuld be in opie-pics pacakge
12:41.35*** join/#oe Crofton|laptop (~balister@66-207-66-26.black.dmt.ntelos.net)
12:42.18mickeylsince when am I called "Mr. easy solution" ?
12:42.32mickeyli have always been called "Mr fix-it-the-right-way"
12:42.35mickeylheh
12:42.53hrw|workmickeyl: I just want to bump "the right way" parameter
12:44.27mickeyljeeze
12:44.31mickeylit's really used all over the place
12:45.09hrw|worklooks like anotherbug reported by me will be fixed
12:46.19mickeyltadaa
12:46.20mickeylit's done
12:47.00mickeylcan we remove some DEPENDS opie-cardmon now?
12:47.51*** join/#oe marcan (1337@127b5d9916158d46.session.tor)
12:49.15koenmickeyl: this show a nice ancestry diagram: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=26dcbba401e23cdd807b2c6017ed788ce8ae6690e
12:49.26koenshows*
12:49.59mickeylhmm revision id invalid
12:50.39koenok, try http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev
12:51.13mickeylwoot
12:51.15mickeylpretty cool
12:51.27zecke_the site looks lame ;)
12:51.33zecke_the boxes are not equally sized
12:52.48hrw|workkoen: can you disable "manifest" part? it will be faster then
12:53.18mickeylhmm
12:53.19mickeylclick on a diff
12:53.21mickeyltraceback
12:54.09koenwhich diff?
12:54.31mickeylanyone
12:54.46hrw|workhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=1caf39c2bf8190a1e997277c24f8421e335cdf9e&id2=26dcbba401e23cdd807b2c6017ed788ce8ae6690 WFM
12:54.52mickeylException: Unable to calculate diff: monotone: misuse: unknown path 'packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.12-mm1.bb'
12:54.52koenhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=1caf39c2bf8190a1e997277c24f8421e335cdf9e&id2=26dcbba401e23cdd807b2c6017ed788ce8ae6690
12:55.07hrw|workhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=a18267d52d3d7431e7643dafe74393852f1be261&id2=26dcbba401e23cdd807b2c6017ed788ce8ae6690&fname=packages/linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.12-mm1/add-elpp-stuff.patch does not
12:55.12mickeylodd
12:55.14mickeyldoesn't work for me
12:56.04hrw|workdif for files does not work
12:56.08hrw|workwork for revisions
12:58.45koenoooh
12:58.50koennokia770 on ZDF
12:58.55koenhttp://www.heute.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/22/0,4070,2326614-6-wm_dsl,00.html
12:58.59*** join/#oe Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.97)
12:58.59koengoooo germans!
12:59.44*** part/#oe Jenna (~cherryRed@209.8.233.97)
13:01.54rwhitbyall I get is a ubuntu video ,,,
13:02.08koenthe last 10 seconds show the 770
13:02.12rwhitbyah
13:02.58*** join/#oe Geo_KM (~keith@ppp61-98.lns1.cbr1.internode.on.net)
13:03.36hrw|work~hail mickeyl for closing 1514
13:03.36ibotACTION bows down to mickeyl for closing 1514 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
13:11.52ram123i am getting the error : quilt_savannah.nongnu.org_VER_0_39_.tar.gz
13:12.18ram123| patch: **** Can't create file /tmp/poX2r0fG : File exists
13:12.40ram123but when i do a ls -al i cannot find that file
13:12.48ram123i dont understand what is going on ?
13:12.56ram123can anyone explain this ?
13:22.39rwhitbynslu2-linux just raised USD$1800 of donations in 8 days.
13:23.25rwhitbyNow we can buy a real machine to host the monotone repo for nslu2-linux.org on :-)
13:23.39hrw|worknice donation
13:24.10*** join/#oe jamey (~jamey@192.208.47.196)
13:24.25zecke_hey jamey
13:24.52rwhitbymickeyl: so we have enough cash to buy your slug
13:24.52jameyhi zecke_
13:26.39koenhey jamey
13:26.59koenrwhitby: sweet, 64bit goodness
13:27.21ram123i am always getting the following error Connecting to www.oesources.org[192.216.230.225]:80... failed: Connection timed out.
13:27.29ram123dont know what to do ?
13:27.46zecke_rwhitby: congrats
13:27.47hrw|workram123: you have to use proxy at work?
13:27.51ram123i can download using web browser but not through bitblake ?
13:27.56ram123i have a proxy ?
13:28.20ram123cant figure out what's happening ?. any solutions ?
13:28.44Crofton|laptopram123, do you have a network administrator there you can talk too?
13:29.15Crofton|laptopThe people here can only be so much help at solving your local networking issues
13:30.03ram123what settings does bitbake require ?
13:30.17koenrwhitby: do you know how well a nslu2 perform with a usb 100mbit nic?
13:30.43rwhitbykoen: dunno, but [g2] might.
13:30.57hrw|workram123: it need working wget or curl
13:31.18hrw|workram123: when "wget http://www.example.net/" will work then bitbake will be able to fetch
13:31.49ram1231 sec
13:31.49rwhitbykoen: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance is all our benchmark numbers that are recorded
13:32.21koencool, thanks
13:32.29[g2]koen, what rates are you looking to do and what protocols
13:32.37ram123wget does not work ?. but browser works ?
13:32.53ram123do u know what settings are needed to make wget work ?
13:32.55koen[g2]: 2mbit or so as a router
13:33.10Crofton|laptopram123, what broswer are you using?
13:33.11hrw|workram123: man wget
13:33.15koen[g2]: I'm considering getting a slug as a sipproxy and firewall
13:33.43[g2]koen, assuming you're not to crazy with iptables/tc should be no problem at all
13:33.59zecke_export http_proxy=http://localhost:80
13:34.00koenok cool
13:34.09[g2]I've run 100Mbs via thttp
13:34.33[g2]and tcp has 70+Mbs throughput on the device itself
13:35.01[g2]i've had 2 usb-ethernets plugged into to do transparent bridging/filtering but didn't get to play with it
13:35.17[g2]then 3rd would be the mgmt intf
13:35.55[g2]I think I can do line rate logging on <10Mbs
13:36.11[g2]it may require a little tweeaking though
13:37.59koenit looks like my ipaq makes mincemeat of the slug
13:38.42ram123mozilla browser
13:38.47ram123crofton: mozilla
13:39.09Crofton|laptoplook in preferences and see if you have a proxy configured
13:39.18Crofton|laptopI don't know exactly where that will be in the menus
13:39.18ram123i am going through .wgetrc to make wget work ?
13:39.26ram123i know
13:39.38ram1231 sec Crofton
13:42.24ram123got it to work finally
13:42.37Crofton|laptopgreat!
13:42.39ram123now the proxy works but get an error
13:42.59hrw|workram123: what url exactly?
13:43.11koenmickeyl: any guestimate when we'll have the flagday for switching?
13:43.56ram123http://pastebin.ca/15760
13:44.14ram123please fine the error at http://pastebin.ca/15760
13:44.38ram123URL used is http://www.oesources.org/source/current/quilt_savannah.nongnu.org_VER_0_39_.tar.gz
13:44.42hrw|workram123: what you have as TMPDIR?
13:44.46ram123it is the very first file
13:44.49ram123/usr/tmp
13:44.56Crofton|laptopweird
13:45.05ram123why ?
13:45.12Crofton|laptopremove the file it is complaining about and try again
13:45.37Crofton|laptop/tmp/poS
13:45.40Crofton|laptop...
13:46.17ram123i know that but dont know why it is comming ?.
13:46.32ram123i changed the TMPDIR=/usr/tmp/oetmp
13:46.37ram123no ideas ?
13:46.49Crofton|laptopno
13:47.00Crofton|laptopI never seen OE fail that way
13:47.13ram123i dont have a file called /tmp/po*** whatever when i do ls -l
13:47.19ram123ls -l /tmp
13:49.10ram123see http://pastebin.ca/15763 for my conf file
13:55.12Crofton|laptopram123, look at the log files in /usr/tmp/oetmp/work/quilt..../temp
13:58.32*** join/#oe cedric (~cedric@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com)
13:59.35ram123patch: **** Can't create file /tmp/poX2r0fG : File exists
13:59.46ram123<PROTECTED>
14:02.30zecke_is tmp writable?
14:03.22zecke_what version of bitbake
14:04.56CIA-703koen 07 * r1.3604.2.1 10openembedded/packages/gpe-login/gpe-login_0.77.bb: Add gpe-login 0.77, I blindly removed all patches that failed to apply, but it builds and works for me.
14:05.00koenCwiiis[away]: could you check if your collie stuff is still needed in gpe-login?
14:06.01Crofton|laptopram123, pastebin log.do_patch ....
14:06.55*** join/#oe drw (~drw@c-67-172-219-167.hsd1.tx.comcast.net)
14:13.14ram1231 sec
14:14.14*** join/#oe ar_ (~ar@port-ip-213-211-231-74.reverse.mdcc-fun.de)
14:14.49ram123i deleted the direcory /usr/oetmp and doing all over again.
14:15.10ram123http://pastebin.ca/15767
14:15.30*** join/#oe anomaly_ (~anomaly@ppp243-109.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net)
14:16.51ram123i will also paste run do patch
14:16.59mickeylforget quilt
14:17.19mickeylecho 'INHERIT += "patcher"' >> conf/local.conf
14:17.23mickeylthen be happy
14:18.06pb_heh.  you really don't like quilt, do you?
14:18.27mickeylnot really. especially i hate it for generating lots of oe-related traffic
14:18.33mickeylunnecessary traffic imo
14:19.02mickeylif those who were for converting us to use quilt by default would maintain the .bb it would be fine
14:19.03pb_admittedly I don't like quilt much either, but I haven't found patcher to be significantly better.
14:19.13mickeylwell, patcher builds. that counts for me :)
14:19.26pb_ah, right, I guess that would help
14:19.37koen'building' is a big for for patcher
14:19.47mickeylkoen: that's why i like it
14:19.48mickeylheh
14:19.58mickeyland because i like schurig
14:19.58ram123see http://pastebin.ca/15768
14:20.00mickeylbut that's another sotry
14:20.02mickeylstory, even
14:20.13ram123Crofton: what could be wrong ?
14:22.12ram123Koen: can u have a look into my problem if u are free ?
14:22.21koenrwhitby-asleep: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/MinimisingBitBakeMemoryUtilisation is not really needed anymore :)
14:22.51mickeylibot: convert 80 EUR to USD
14:23.42zecke_foo.org/MinimizingMoneyInYourPocket
14:23.53koenmickeyl: 'change'
14:23.56mickeylah right
14:23.59mickeylthanks koen
14:24.05mickeyl~change 80 EUR to USD
14:24.08zecke_Content: Get me an ibook
14:24.22mickeylhere we are
14:24.24mickeyl~botsnack
14:24.24ibot:), mickeyl
14:24.38koen~users
14:24.38ibotso this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony>
14:25.11koenI always have to do that after reading the whining on oesf.org
14:25.54Crofton|laptopram123, try what mickey said in your local.conf
14:26.05*** join/#oe offroadgeek (~offroadge@offroadgeek.sustaining.supporter.pdpc)
14:27.30CoreDump|homemoin
14:28.25ram123trying  echo 'INHERIT += "patcher"' >> conf/local.conf
14:28.30ram1231 sec
14:30.30*** join/#oe cedric (~cedric@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com)
14:36.34*** join/#oe cedric (~cedric@freeway.rd.francetelecom.com)
14:36.41rwhitby-asleepmickeyl: you've been added to the end of the list: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/DonationList
14:37.19mickeylrwhitby-asleep: excellent. BTW., I just found a shop which has 'em in stock. I'll be getting it tomorrow :)
14:38.23ram123Crofton have u ported GPE to osk
14:39.19Crofton|laptopI haven't built opie, I haven't tried gpe recently
14:39.40Crofton|laptopdid you get OE from bitkeeper or montone?
14:40.14koenCrofton|laptop: a bk export
14:40.18ram123koen gave me the link from where i could download the tar files as my system
14:40.27ram123is behind the firewall
14:40.29Crofton|laptopok, just curious
14:40.40ram123thanks for that koen
14:40.41rwhitby-asleepmickeyl: you'll be part of our "niche" project now ;-)
14:41.01mickeyl*cough* ;))
14:41.31mickeyl~lart ibot logs
14:41.34koennow we'll get a client/server wellenreiter
14:41.50koensince the slug doesn't have a screen ;)
14:42.18zecke_koen: use the 1st version of wellenreiter II
14:42.22mickeylhehe
14:42.25mickeylno kidding
14:42.31mickeylthe version from hell
14:42.34ram123how long does bitbake boot-strap image takes ?
14:42.36mickeyl~lart Wellenreiter 1 people
14:42.45Crofton|laptophow fast is your machine?
14:42.54rwhitby-asleepnight all
14:42.55koenabout 4 hours on  my machine
14:42.59mickeylg'night rwhitby-asleep
14:42.59koen'night rwhitby-asleep
14:43.25Crofton|laptopram123, I am running bitbake gpe-image on my machine now to get an idea if there are any problems
14:43.38ram123great Crofton
14:44.12Crofton|laptopNow I need to get ready to go to school
14:46.54ram123before u do that have a look at my new error. please ...
14:47.35ram123http://pastebin.ca/15769
14:48.03ram123i dont know how many more errors are going to be there before i get my full image ?
14:49.12koenit looks like it can't fetch gnu-config from the server
14:49.16SirFredafternoon
14:49.32ram123so how do i solve this now ?
14:49.39*** join/#oe Pigi (~NoOne@host100-62.pool8288.interbusiness.it)
14:49.54PigiCiao all
14:51.03Pigimickeyl ping
14:52.01Crofton|laptopram123, try bitbake gnu-config-native
14:52.22Crofton|laptopIt may be that the gnu CVS server is not responding, or cvs can't get through your firewall
14:52.37Crofton|laptopTry retreiving it from cvs by hand
14:52.48Crofton|laptopto test your network connectivity
14:53.07Crofton|laptopand talk to your network administrator
14:53.26koenCrofton|laptop: it's using cvs over ssh, so port 22 needs to be open too
14:55.26ram123oh
14:55.50ram123network admins are very fussy people when it comes to opening ports ?
14:55.55hrw|workram123: set CVSDATE=20050623 and retry
14:56.05jameyram123:  and well they should be
14:56.21Pigiram123, cvs over ssh use only 22
14:56.30Pigiport 22, even :)
14:56.56Crofton|laptopwell network admins are pains in the behinds, but they should help you get your job done, not prevent it from getting done
14:57.22ram123it depends on what kind of a netwrokd admin u have ?
14:58.35Piginetwork ( or firewall ) admin doesn't care too much about your work :)
14:58.38*** join/#oe Noid_ (~rsalazar@157.Red-217-126-167.pooles.rima-tde.net)
14:58.39mickeylpigi: at your service
14:58.51Piginot so much, mickeyl :)
14:59.01Pigihave you seen the bug I filed for libsdl-qpe ?
14:59.01SirFredmickeyl: Bad news. I'm giving up with this rotation approximation.
14:59.28SirFredmickeyl: It's really more complicated than I thought at a first sight.
15:00.13ram123does my environment variable consist of CVSROOT ?
15:00.18ram123i am not sure ?
15:01.00hrw|workram123: that way you will grab it from CVS_TARBALL_STASH
15:02.54mickeylPigi: not yet, let me check
15:03.22mickeylSirFred: guess we could hack up some kind of cheating, i.e. use the transformed when rotating
15:03.39SirFredmickeyl: I'm working in a transformed approximation now.
15:03.53SirFredmickeyl: The two great problems with the other approach were:
15:04.07Pigimickeyl, #117
15:04.08SirFred1.-A lot of APIs needed to be changed, and I was not sure to be following the right way.
15:04.40SirFred2.-The worst thing is that on a rotation, all the gfx needed to be recalculated, physically rotated, and all the cliprects for any gfx updated the same way.
15:04.54SirFredI didn't find an API to perform this. So more changes to the qte APIs.
15:05.17SirFredSure it's the best way, because the rotation for any gfx is only performed once.
15:05.21ram123so what do i do now ?
15:05.23SirFredBut it seems too complicated.
15:05.40ram123i cant even download it. it says no such file
15:05.45Crofton|laptopyou are still having trouble retrieving CVS?
15:05.48mickeylPigi: hmm... no idea offhand. since mithro added some patches i didn't look into sdl-qpe for quite a while. i'll keep that in mind
15:06.00ram123yes
15:06.01mickeylSirFred: bummer. if only we could question sharp how they did it
15:06.13Crofton|laptop~lart network admins
15:06.27Crofton|laptopram123, see above
15:06.53Crofton|laptopto use OE effectively you will need to solve the CVS problem
15:06.57ram123that will be done once it works ?
15:07.08SirFredmickeyl: I think they were using a transformed approach.
15:07.19Crofton|laptopit should get you to your next problem :)
15:07.33ram123yes i know.
15:07.42SirFredmickeyl: The filling was different. When the framebuffer is physically rotated, it's more noisy visually.
15:07.51Crofton|laptopoe will download several source files via cvs
15:08.05SirFredmickeyl: It seems that something really complicated is happening internally.
15:08.25ram123i thought installation will be smooth.
15:08.28SirFredmickeyl: But with the transformed approach, it's, how to say it, smooth.
15:08.35ram123it is getting more complicated.
15:08.48ram123a simple how-to is needed.
15:09.06Crofton|laptopwrite one on the OE wiki :)
15:09.08ram123which says these should be there and this is how u do it
15:09.19ram123i will do that once i am through.
15:09.23kergoththere are plenty of howtos.  your problem is your environment.  it isnt our job to teach you how to fix your system to be able to download things
15:09.27SirFredmickeyl: I don't think they changed qte that hard. Who wrote the qte driver, sharp or trolltech?
15:09.31kergothbut yes, by all means document
15:09.43koengoooood morning kergoth
15:09.47*** join/#oe tigrux (~tigrux@dsl-200-67-236-216.prod-empresarial.com.mx)
15:09.48mickeylSirFred: Sharp did
15:09.49kergothhey
15:09.50Pigimickeyl, ok, no problem
15:10.00mickeylSirFred: or ATI for that matter
15:10.06mickeylhi kergoth
15:10.19SirFredmickeyl: Take in mind that the applications compiled against the standard qte api work.
15:10.30Pigihi kergoth
15:10.42SirFredmickeyl: On the qte sharp. so , the changes coulnd't have involved deep changes in APIs.
15:11.12mickeylSirFred: not in the APIs, but god knows what extra calls to libaticore they embedded in their version of qte
15:11.20Crofton|laptop~lart the price of oil
15:11.26mickeylSirFred: how good are you with recompiling? :)
15:11.45SirFredmickeyl: That's not the problem. The problem is that the widgets need to know about these changes.
15:12.11SirFredmickeyl: To update their cliprects geometry and also rotate all the gfx.
15:12.27SirFredmickeyl: What do you mean with that?
15:12.30Luke-Jrpb_: ping
15:12.46mithrosomebody said my name?
15:12.47mickeylSirFred: in theory you could have a look at Sharps accellerated qte driver.
15:12.57mithroor where they after mickeyl like normal :P
15:13.06mickeylhah
15:13.14Pigimithro, yes :)
15:13.16mickeylmithro: check #117 in the oe bugtracker. maybe you have an idea
15:13.42SirFredmickeyl: You mean reverse engineering the qte driver?
15:14.02mickeylSirFred: RE is such a big word. Taking a peek, I'd say
15:14.07SirFredmickeyl: :)
15:14.52pb_Luke-Jr: hello
15:14.54SirFredmickeyl: I'll try to give it a look. ANyway, I'm pretty sure that the transformed approach was used.
15:15.06Luke-Jrpb_: hi
15:15.11SirFredmickeyl: All qte is prepared to use transformed screens. But not for hot-rotating framebuffers.
15:15.25SirFredmickeyl: We have no trace that sharp went that way.
15:15.33Luke-Jrpb_: the 'libtool' file in the work dir is different from the one in my KDE CVS dir-- not sure if that means its the right one?
15:15.33mickeyli see
15:15.42SirFredmickeyl: I only followed it a little and it's a mad way.
15:15.45*** join/#oe france_ (~france@dhcp-208-55.crl.hpl.hp.com)
15:15.46SirFredmickeyl: Diabolic.
15:15.48pb_Luke-Jr: that does sound suspicious
15:16.00zecke_libtool + kde = zecke sees black
15:16.02Luke-Jrpb_: the difference all seem to be variables, such as CC
15:16.03mickeylSirFred: too bad, it would've earned millions of points for "coolness".
15:16.11mickeylSirFred: but an approach that works would be even better :)
15:16.14mickeylbbl, dinner time
15:16.20SirFredmickeyl: We can always give it a try later.
15:16.35mickey|dinner*nod*
15:16.37SirFredmickey|dinner: I would like to have something working. There will be time for experimenting.
15:16.49pb_Luke-Jr: ah.  if it's _only_ variables, that might be ok.
15:16.57pb_if there are code differences, though, that would be a problem
15:17.01pb_zecke: heh
15:17.02Luke-Jrpb_: didn't you say it should be an OE-patched version?
15:17.31pb_yes
15:17.42pb_autotools_do_configure will install OE's own version of libtool into your source directory.
15:17.49pb_if you are doing anything to defeat that, you will have a problem.
15:18.09Luke-Jroe_runconf should do it, right?
15:18.31pb_no
15:18.48pb_autotools_do_configure does a whole pile of stuff before it calls oe_runconf.
15:19.11pb_are you providing your own do_configure() method in the .bb file?
15:19.27Luke-Jryes
15:19.36ram123unable to download using cvs ?
15:19.52ram123am giving up...
15:19.55Luke-Jr1) autoconf; 2) oe_runconf w/ args
15:20.04pb_okay, that's no good
15:20.28pb_what goes wrong if you just let autotools.bbclass do its thing?
15:20.50Luke-Jrlemme try... moving stuff to EXTRA_OECONF var...
15:21.03*** join/#oe mr_claus (random@p54991EF2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
15:21.36ram123time to leave and will catch up tommorrow. hopefully i will try to make it work by tommorrow ?
15:21.43ram123one more thing.
15:21.52ram123what should i ask my sysadmin ?
15:21.57ram123to open port 22
15:22.00ram123thats it.
15:22.08ram123or anything else ?
15:22.14ram123wget is working fine.
15:22.33ram123what else is needed to change my environment to work on oe
15:22.50ram123can anyone list out the reqts please..
15:23.07Luke-Jrwe don't know your environmnet...
15:23.41ram123what is the env needed to work on oe. which ports should be open and things like that ?
15:23.53Luke-Jrall ports would work
15:24.00ram123c'mon
15:24.05koenyou should be able to access ssh, cvs and svn port on remote hosts
15:24.12koenand httpd
15:24.18koenthat's all you need
15:24.33ram123svn what ports it requires i changed my proxy file and it does not work ?
15:25.00Luke-Jrram123: svn usually works over HTTP, IIRC
15:25.35ram123my proxy does not support HTTP
15:25.41ram123it is not HTTP Proxy.
15:25.42*** join/#oe pH5 (~ph5@p5485F1F9.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:27.55ram123bye
15:28.20ram123time to leave. are u guys comming tommorrow to this room ?
15:29.15*** part/#oe ram123 (~ram123@203.196.146.243)
15:30.34Luke-Jrpb_: that seems to have fixed the problems :)
15:30.53Luke-Jrpb_: (or prompting recompiling the object files, in which case it hasn't reached the linking step yet)
15:31.08Luke-Jrpb_: thanks
15:33.03Luke-Jrseems to have finished the dcop dir, so should have worked :)
15:33.11pb_ok, very good
15:35.39PigiI was wondering why minimo is built during the buildind of gpe-image ( and the not installed, AFAIK )
15:35.58Luke-JrPigi: minimo is part of gpe-image...
15:36.43Pigiis it ? I haven't seen in the previous images
15:37.29Luke-JrPigi: I have a fork, gpe-image-ljr, which has FireFox instead on my site http://utopios.org/~luke-jr/programs/oz-ljr/
15:37.37Luke-Jr(under Live Development Sources/ljr.pkgs)
15:38.55Pigino, I suspect it got build but not installed on ipaq machines: GPE_EXTRA_DEPENDS_bigscreen = "minimo figment"
15:39.07Pigis/build/built
15:39.15Luke-Jr?
15:39.56PigiI think that minimo comes only on machine defined as "bigscreen". My ipaq is definitivelly not a bigscreen
15:40.31Pigiso it is built, but then the IPKG_INSTALL don't put it in the image.
15:40.43Luke-Jrinteresting
15:40.59Pigimaybe someone can confirm ?
15:41.57Pigithere are some class/machine/*.conf that have :GUI_MACHINE_CLASS = "bigscreen"
15:42.06Pigiso I think I'm rigt :)
15:42.11Pigi*right
15:43.46koenPigi: check for h3900 stuff
15:44.02koenminimo get's installed in h3900 images
15:44.07koenand c700
15:44.22Pigiand what on 3800 ?
15:44.54hrw|workbye
15:44.56koenno, because that uses h3600 as a config file, which assumes 16 of flash
15:45.26PigiI see. that's explain why I haven't seen it on my previous tests
15:45.58koenwow, a nslu2 is only 13x9 cm
15:48.20Pigiwhat exactly is an nslu ?
15:48.31koenPigi: http://www.nslu2-linux.org
15:48.46Pigiyes, already seen
15:49.08koenit's a small network server with usb port
15:49.20koenso you can hook up a usb drive and share it
15:49.32Pigiah, that is. Thx koen
15:50.32*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mad1636d0.tmodns.net)
16:01.56Luke-Jrpb_: ping
16:04.56pb_hello
16:06.54*** join/#oe mithro_ (~tim@ppp244-18.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net)
16:13.34Luke-Jrpb_: the OE libtool stuff seems to have broken the Makefiles? O.o
16:13.44Luke-Jreverything after ".NOEXPORT:" is gone
16:13.55Luke-Jrany ideas there?
16:15.17pb_no idea
16:15.28pb_libtool doesn't get involved in generating the Makefiles, though, so that seems weird.
16:16.02pb_you might want to check with zecke, he has the kde sk1llz.
16:17.15*** join/#oe Crofton|laptop (~balister@h80ad9050.dhcp.vt.edu)
16:17.37*** join/#oe XorA (~dp@81-178-209-89.dsl.pipex.com)
16:22.04XorAevening
16:24.36*** join/#oe reenoo__ (~r@p5489CF2E.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:24.44reenoo__evening
16:27.27CIA-703XorA 07 * r1.3601.2.1 10openembedded/packages/mplayer/ (mplayer-atty_1.1.4.bb mplayer-atty-1.1.4/Makefile-libs.patch): mplayer-atty: added needed patch I missed when upping rev
16:31.11*** join/#oe obi (~obi@B3114.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de)
16:32.05Pigisee you later
16:32.56mr_clausif i want to build a meta package like openslug-image and want to include udev, do i have to use DEPENDS and RDEPENDS?
16:33.26mr_clausi think i have to use DEPENDS too because udev should be included in the firmware
16:33.51reenoo__DEPENDS is build time. RDEPENDS is run time. so, the answer is both
16:34.28mr_clausok, so all what should be inside of the image need to be in DEPENDS too, thx
16:36.17mr_clausreenoo__: and the same with kernel-module-ext3? the module will be built by the kernel package so perhaps only RDEPENDS is needed?
16:48.45reenoo__mr_claus: right. only RDEPENDS in that case (if virtual/kernel is in DEPENDS)
16:49.02mr_clausreenoo__: ok, thx
17:03.03*** join/#oe zap (~zap@217.170.93.9)
17:06.40Luke-Jrhrm
17:06.55Luke-Jrautotools class doesn't wipe Makefile.in, does it? :|
17:08.09kergothautotools class runs autoreconf
17:08.26kergothif the package uses automake, autoreconf calls automake, which in turn generates Makefile.in from Makefile.am if it exists.
17:08.33kergothautoreconf just calls autoconf, automake, aclocal, etc
17:08.36kergothin the correct order
17:08.39Luke-Jrah
17:08.40koenLuke-Jr: print the aututools manual and smack the kde devs with it
17:09.06koenzecke tried to do that earlier with no effect
17:09.13Luke-Jr-# KDE tags expanded automatically by am_edit - $Revision: 406248 $
17:10.20Luke-Jrkoen: does autotools normally support moc?
17:10.44koenno idea
17:11.05Luke-Jrif not, that would explain needing KDE-specific stuff
17:13.22*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mad1636d0.tmodns.net)
17:18.44Luke-Jrare bb code segments run in BASH or sh?
17:18.57Luke-Jrmore specifically, are pushd and popd available?
17:19.52*** join/#oe Snoogie (~Snoogie@gob75-5-82-231-180-13.fbx.proxad.net)
17:20.34koensh
17:21.06Luke-Jrkoen: any idea if pushd/popd/alias/unalias are valid sh?
17:21.38koenno idea
17:22.11CoreDump|homepushd and popd are shell scripts itself IIRC
17:22.34Luke-Jrpushd/popd have functionality no script could implement...
17:23.22jbowler() can be used in place of pushd/popd, simple variables in place of alias
17:23.44Luke-Jrjbowler: I want to noop-ify part of a class I'm using
17:23.52Luke-Jrjbowler: so I'm aliasing the command it uses to echo
17:25.10jbowlershell functions are supported
17:25.18Luke-Jr?
17:25.40jbowlercat(); {; echo "$@"; }
17:25.54Luke-Jrjbowler: I need to override a shell function, tho ;)
17:26.09Luke-Jrjbowler: IIRC, aliases have preference over functions
17:26.16jbowler? function(); {; }
17:26.43Luke-JrI need to use the original function afterward
17:26.56CosmicPenguinIts a damn script - alias is nice and all, but you can probably afford a bit of un-readablity
17:27.38Luke-JrCosmicPenguin: I don't see anything else providing the functionality of alias in this case
17:27.41jbowlerWhat is it that does actually use a shell function?
17:27.49jbowlerI.e. what is the bbclass?
17:27.58Luke-Jrautotools_do_configure calls oe_runconf
17:28.04Luke-Jrautotools bbclass
17:28.14Luke-JrI need to do some processing prior to oe_runconf
17:29.00Luke-Jrnow, if most of autotools_do_configure would move to oe_preconf or such... that would be nice =p
17:29.07Luke-Jrbut I don't like modifying other people's files
17:29.33Luke-Jreck... even alias didn't do it :|
17:29.44kergothLuke-Jr: eh? just write a custom do_configure in yoiur .bb that calls autotools_do_configure
17:29.57Luke-Jrkergoth: autotools_do_configure calls oe_runconf, tho
17:30.03jbowlerI can't find a shell function in autotools.bbclass - I thought there was one somehwere, but I don't know where.
17:30.08kergothLuke-Jr: and?
17:30.12Luke-Jrkergoth: I need to do something before oe_runconf (run a perl script)
17:30.15kergothyes, and?
17:30.16jbowlerOh, ok, right.
17:30.19Luke-Jrkergoth: but after the autoreconf
17:30.23kergothokay, then say that.
17:30.29kergothheh
17:32.05kergothLuke-Jr: pushd/popd are bashisms, not standard susv3 or posix sh, afaik.  alias is fine.
17:32.07jbowleroe_runconf_prepend (or does that only work on tasks?)
17:32.22Luke-Jrkergoth: alias didn't work either, tho :(
17:32.28kergoth?
17:32.39Luke-Jrkergoth: oe_runconf still ran instead of being an echo
17:32.59kergoththen you didnt define the alias after the oe_runconf definition.  exactly what you'd expect.
17:33.08Luke-Jrhttp://pastebin.ca/15778
17:33.14kergothor the alias was in shell function scope, not global.  once again, exactly what you'd expect
17:33.56Luke-Jrkergoth: would oe_runconf_prepend (suggested by jbowler) work?
17:34.22kergothif oe_runconf is shell defined by oe, that'll work. it works on any bitbake variables, not just tasks
17:34.36treke-mornin kergoth
17:34.38jbowler(oe_runconf();{;}; autotools_do_configure)
17:34.42kergothhey
17:37.00CosmicPenguinWhat would be better then trying to do stupid shell tricks would be to pull out the autoreconf foo and make it a function, thereby reducing the do_configure to one or two lines
17:37.03CosmicPenguinand easier to overload
17:37.41Luke-JrCosmicPenguin: hence why I asked how long such a patch would take to get committed into BK
17:37.50jbowlerBK?
17:37.57Luke-JrBitKeeper
17:38.01CosmicPenguinThats all a function of how intellegent said patch ended up being
17:38.28CIA-703koen 07 * r1.3610.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
17:38.28CIA-7Patch libtool to support '-version-info 1000:0:1000' again. See http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2005/03/12/0011.html
17:38.28CIA-7Add newer poppler lib
17:38.33Luke-Jroe_runconf_prepend worked, tho, so it might not be needed
17:39.23koen~lart either libtool or gnome for usiD[D[Dng '1000'
17:41.06*** join/#oe Ycros (~Ycros@c211-30-252-204.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
17:54.08Luke-Jrkdelibs wants to build and run 'dcopidl' :|
17:54.46koenlooks like you need a dcop-native
17:55.13Luke-Jrdcop or dcopidl? O.o
17:55.24koenisn't that the same?
17:55.30Luke-Jrdoubt it
17:55.35Luke-Jrdcopidl is used at buildtime
17:55.40Luke-Jrdcop is like dbus
17:55.57*** join/#oe pb_ (~pb@2002:5168:d274:1:a00:1fff:fe06:93c)
17:56.26koenI know that
17:56.37koenit seems you'll need kdelibs-native
17:56.52koensee http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=dcopidl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386
17:57.08koengood luck with making a x-native env
17:58.27Luke-Jrsome KDE guy says to use scons :\
17:58.57Luke-Jrdo I ignore him or make a dcop-native?
17:59.11koenignore him
17:59.14treke-ignore him
17:59.25koenhe's saying "we suck, but we aren't going to admit it"
17:59.30Luke-Jrerr... ignore him & make dcop-native || use scons
18:00.14treke-my question is this
18:00.21treke-how is scons going to help in the slightest?
18:00.31treke-since it's just a different build tool
18:01.07*** join/#oe obi (~obi@B3114.karlshof.wh.tu-darmstadt.de)
18:02.28Luke-Jrno idea
18:07.06Luke-Jrno way to get dcopidl to build for Build instead of Target? :\
18:09.02treke-well
18:09.06treke-you need it for both :p
18:09.30Luke-Jrwhy?
18:09.35Luke-Jrit's only used at build-time
18:10.10Luke-Jrkoen: BTW, I'd much more soon disable X on kdelibs-native =p
18:10.17Luke-Jrkoen: KDE does not require X :)
18:11.43treke-~lart opengroupware
18:12.09hrw~lart sqlite3
18:12.56treke-dumb thing can't be built on amd64
18:12.57hrw~lart qtopia pim structure also
18:13.56hrwto do concat() on data in sqlite3 all content need to be exported and written outside as query
18:14.01Luke-Jrtreke-: would I get ~lart'd if I use qemu to run dcopidl and such? :|
18:15.09treke-yes
18:15.30Luke-Jrhmm
18:15.40Luke-Jrwhat if I require ASSUME_PROVIDED=kdelibs-native?
18:15.49treke-yes
18:16.01marcanhmm... has anyone had a look at the sl-5500 suspend/resume problems? I have a 5500 here with a serial console and whatnot, and I'd like to help. Any ideas/info?
18:16.26Luke-Jrwhat if I steal Gentoo's split-KDE code?
18:17.09treke-eh? When I last looked, kdelibs was a monolithic package in gentoo
18:17.41Luke-Jrkdelibs is, but the general splitting code should work
18:19.50treke-I dont know how popular importing X hundred bbs would be, but I doubt anyone would have technical complaints
18:20.27Luke-Jrwell, I only need to native-build dcop
18:20.27Luke-JrI hope
18:20.34Luke-Jrso that's 1
18:22.16treke-if that works, it shoul dbe fine
18:22.32Luke-Jrcan bbclasses exist outside of openembedded/conf?
18:22.39Luke-Jror is it better to use a .inc?
18:23.05treke-classes can go into the classes dir for anything in BBPATH
18:35.47*** join/#oe [cc]smart (~smart@gw.ptr-62-65-149-158.customer.ch.netstream.com)
18:36.41Crofton|laptopanyone fell like answering a question about my efforts to use autoconf?
18:36.41*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mad1636d0.tmodns.net)
18:36.53Crofton|laptopconfigure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
18:37.04Crofton|laptopis the error I get from my configure script
18:37.34*** join/#oe synth (~cb@pcp838545pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net)
18:42.16keturnis it possible to either fix the list archives or drop them from the server entirely?  there's one message about it to the list every two weeks, and for every message about it there are probably a half-dozen more confused and discouraged people who don't report it.
18:42.42hrwketurn: talk with hh.org admins
18:52.12Luke-JrIs my bbclass missing something? http://pastebin.ca/15785
18:52.48Luke-JrI get | /home/luke-jr/src/oe2005/build.alt/tmp/work/kdelibs-dcop-native-3.4.1-r0/temp/run.do_unpack.9193: line 429: kde-split_do_unpack: command not found
18:54.16kergoth- isnt a valid character in a shell function's name
18:58.22Luke-Jrdoesn't it need to be named after the bbclass? O.o
18:59.41kergothin order for EXPORT_FUNCTIONS to behave properly for our "inheritence", yes.  but if you're going to just be calling it directly from another function..
18:59.43kergothbrb
19:08.15treke-why not just call it kdesplit instead of kde-split?
19:13.00koendo we have ipkg on oe.handhelds.org?
19:13.06koenipkgs*
19:15.02Luke-Jrtreke-: I renamed it to kde_split
19:21.01treke-ok
19:21.17treke-if that works :)
19:22.58*** join/#oe CP|Laptop (~nobody@aus-ext-proxy02.amd.com)
19:23.32treke-time to give monotone a shot
19:24.32CP|Laptopbang
19:24.50treke-~kill CP|Laptop
19:24.50ibotACTION shoots a excited anti-photon gun at CP|Laptop
19:32.01Luke-Jr~kill treke-
19:32.01ibotACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxpositrino gun at treke-
19:34.10treke-~bitchslap Luke-Jr
19:34.10ibotACTION beats the sh*t out of Luke-Jr
19:34.24Luke-Jr~lart treke-
19:35.18Luke-Jr~kill CP|Laptop
19:35.19ibotACTION shoots a charged fluxproton gun at CP|Laptop
19:35.21Luke-Jrtreke-: happy?
19:35.29treke-very
19:36.16Luke-Jrwhat makes configure.in from configure.in.in?
19:42.01lilalinuxHey guys
19:42.27lilalinuxI'm looking for x86emu, is it available for oe?
19:42.34*** join/#oe Snoogie (~Snoogie@gob75-5-82-231-180-13.fbx.proxad.net)
19:42.35lilalinuxit's part of xfree86
19:43.24lilalinuxI'm fairly new to oe, is there a primary resource for looking up packages?
19:43.47*** join/#oe Pigi (~NoOne@host163-45.pool80180.interbusiness.it)
19:43.57Pigire
19:46.17Pigithere is a problem downloading some sources from handhelds, as the url has changed for the feed of sources. Where it should be changed ?
19:51.44PigiOk, found it.
19:52.43Luke-Jrlilalinux: um... nobody uses xfree86 anymore
19:53.34lilalinuxLuke-Jr: I don't need xfree86 itself, just x86emu to initialize a VGA on a meshcube
19:54.01lilalinuxbecause of the missing 16bit call handler (INT10)
19:54.06lilalinuxcallback
19:54.17pb_lilalinux: the xorg xserver is in oe; look in the xserver/ directory
19:55.42lilalinuxActually I use nylon, but this is primarily an automated buildsystem. The openembedded/packages/ directory doesn't list xserver/ :(
19:55.46lilalinuxwhere can I download it?
19:57.43NAiLThere is a xserver folder in my packages dir
19:58.27lilalinuxNAiL: are you using nylon?
19:58.40NAiLno
19:59.46*** join/#oe zwi (~zwi@64.1.9.60)
20:00.22*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mad1636d0.tmodns.net)
20:02.28lilalinuxIs it possible to download packages without having to install bitkeeper?
20:02.52Luke-Jrlilalinux: bk-client is open source
20:02.54koenuse monotone
20:03.02Luke-Jrmonotone is more recently :)
20:03.10Luke-Jrkoen: are recent changes in monotone?
20:03.20koencheck the webinterface
20:03.57lilalinuxapting monotone right now\
20:03.59Luke-JrI mean in general
20:04.09koencheck the webinterface
20:04.18lilalinuxkoen: url?
20:04.24Luke-Jrkoen: check for what?
20:04.33lilalinuxThe downloads page says, there is no download page :)
20:04.55koenLuke-Jr: recent changes
20:05.23Luke-Jrkoen: ...
20:05.57lilalinuxkoen: do you have a commandline at hand for using monotone? I need xserver/
20:06.03reenoo__lilalinux: fyi, OE doesn't distribute any packages. only description files to build packages. for those "recipes" you can check http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/src/packages?nav=index.html|src/
20:06.09Luke-Jrcan only check for specific changes
20:06.13lilalinuxreenoo__: thx
20:06.44reenoo__lilalinux: and fwiw, I don't think there's a .bb for x86emu
20:07.26lilalinuxreenoo__: x86emu is part of xserver
20:08.37reenoo__not in xorg cvs afaict
20:09.42lilalinuxic :(
20:09.51lilalinuxxorg <-> xfree86 :(
20:09.56reenoo__err.. ignore that
20:10.01lilalinuxfound it?
20:10.14Luke-Jrxorg > xf86
20:11.03lilalinuxreenoo__: what should I ignore?
20:13.05reenoo__lilalinux: the "not in xorg cvs"
20:14.26lilalinuxk, so I installed monotone
20:14.37koenhow to I comment out a block in python?
20:14.46lilalinuxhow do i get the recipe?
20:15.07lilalinuxwget doesn't sound smart
20:15.18koenmonotone pull?
20:15.39lilalinuxmonotone: misuse: no database specified
20:15.57lilalinux<--- newbie
20:16.21koenhttp://venge.net/monotone/monotone.html <--- manual
20:16.53lilalinux;)
20:17.57*** join/#oe Virusmaster (~Thomas@p549D6C78.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:21.51CosmicPenguinhmmm... does gmp not play well with x86_64?  Doesn't look like it does
20:23.31pb_it'd be a bit odd if it didn't.
20:23.36pb_what problem are you having?
20:25.10CosmicPenguin/tmp/cckJ2i3O.s: Assembler messages:
20:25.10CosmicPenguin/tmp/cckJ2i3O.s:24: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `bsf'
20:25.28pb_mm, that sounds more like a gcc bug.
20:25.45pb_or, at least, a disagreement between gcc and gas
20:25.45CosmicPenguinthats not entirely impossible
20:26.59pb_if you know amd64 assembler, you could eyeball the .s file to figure out which one of those is at fault.
20:27.15pb_i.e. whether gcc is generating duff code, or whether gas is turning its nose up at something that ought to be valid
20:29.35CosmicPenguinThere is a lot of processor specific code in that general vicinity, though
20:30.00pb_ah, you think it might be coming from an asm() statement?
20:30.04pb_gmp does have a few of those
20:30.46CosmicPenguinThe file is mpn/dive_l.c
20:31.23CosmicPenguinand by l, I do of course mean 1
20:35.49*** join/#oe Snoogie (~Snoogie@gob75-5-82-231-180-13.fbx.proxad.net)
20:36.04CosmicPenguin<PROTECTED>
20:36.06CosmicPenguinthar she blows
20:39.52pb_aha.
20:41.06CosmicPenguinShould I toss the patch into BK, or is that lliable to get lost?
20:50.33koennot yet
20:50.39*** join/#oe synth (~cb@pcp838545pcs.venice01.fl.comcast.net)
20:55.29koenCosmicPenguin: I'm doing a periodic bk export and push that into the monotone tree
20:56.04CosmicPenguinok
20:56.52koenif you notice http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev isn't up to date, ping me or mickeyl
20:58.06*** join/#oe Cwiiis (~cwiiis@user-214-207-151-83.e7even.com)
21:02.19CosmicPenguinBah, mabye my e-mail is fsked up
21:02.32CosmicPenguinAnyway, bmp fix is up for any opteron usin' fools
21:02.39CosmicPenguins/bmp/gmp/
21:02.45CIA-703jcrouse 07 * r1.3613 10openembedded/packages/gmp/ (gmp_4.1.2.bb gmp-4.1.2/amd64.patch): Add x86_64 fix for bad opcode message
21:20.17koenCosmicPenguin: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=526c5e54a8723f6b4ff9f8426dd64c69f4ab3db5
21:22.52*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@mad1636d0.tmodns.net)
21:30.18CosmicPenguinkoen: nice
21:30.19CosmicPenguinthansk
21:32.57rwhitbykoen: jbowler just did our first propagate of nslu2-linux changes back to org.openembedded.dev - can you check it to make sure we're all in sync and haven't lost anything?
21:33.00keturnwhat's our favourite hotplug implementation today?  or whatever package it is I need to make-pcmcia-card-automatically-get-a-dhcp-address.
21:33.32jbowler-awayI pushed to dominion:
21:33.33jbowler-awayoe_site=dominion.kabel.utwente.nl
21:33.33jbowler-awayoe_collection=org.openembedded
21:33.41pb_keturn: for most kernels, that'd be pcmcia-cs.
21:33.50pb_hotplug for pcmcia is a fairly recent innovation
21:35.09koenjbowler-away: could you try the same with ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl as a host?
21:36.34jbowler-awaykoen: in progress...
21:36.39koenI don't seem to have any changes
21:37.09jbowler-awayTry now
21:37.16koenstill nothing
21:37.17koensee http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/index.psp
21:37.26jbowler-awayfa34be49ded63214198ca4b776e49650e67ae189 jbowler@nslu2-linux.org 2005-06-24T21:23:07
21:37.48jbowler-awaySeems to be there now.
21:37.50rwhitbykoen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/ <- shows nslu2-linux branches in it.  any idea how those go in there when ewi is only serving org.openembedded?
21:38.05koenI imported them
21:38.13koenthe hh.org repo won't have them
21:38.17rwhitbyoh, ok.
21:38.38rwhitbyfor a second there I thought our nslu2-linux proposal was flawed :-)
21:38.39jbowler-awayIt doesn't matter anyway - it's just a name+tag for stuff which exists anyway.
21:38.57rwhitbyjbowler-away: yeah, but it will be out of date and confusing unless it is pulled regularly.
21:39.34jbowler-awayWhat I meant was that it couldn't be pulled from ewi - but I guess it's confusing in viewmtn
21:39.51rwhitbykoen: there is an "invisible branches" thingo in monotonerc which could be used to hide them
21:39.54jbowler-awayOk, so should I be pushing to ewi, not dominion?
21:40.06koenjbowler-away: correct
21:40.53rwhitbykoen: I have changed mtn.nslu2-linux.org to sync from ewi
21:41.24rwhitbyjbowler-away: still don't see your push at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/
21:43.52jbowler-awayhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=d91164277f525d52f5d93b713de003dfb955b82a
21:45.31jbowler-awayI'm not sure that's the correct one though I don't see how it got there otherwise.  The date is weird and the id doesn't match.
21:46.04rwhitbythat's the one which koen pulled a while back
21:46.16rwhitbyhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=526c5e54a8723f6b4ff9f8426dd64c69f4ab3db5 doesn't show any of your latest changes
21:47.13*** join/#oe W8TVI (~w8tvi@mg.acegroup.cc)
21:47.29jbowler-awayYes, it's not there - i.e. the revision fa34be49ded63214198ca4b776e49650e67ae189 isn't there.
21:49.31hufnuskoen: when/where will the monotone testing [ pubkey .... ] for openembedded be made avail, so I can init, read and pull my --db="????.db"
21:50.41NAiLjbowler-away: The samba push you did, wouldn't that show up somewhere in there? I can't find it, and the initscript doesn't show up. Am I missing something? :)
21:50.59NAiLI got the initscript when I pulled, so it's there
21:52.19rwhitbyjbowler-away: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=fa34be49ded63214198ca4b776e49650e67ae189 <- revision not found in database
21:53.38jbowler-awayAll my latest changes seem to be missing.
21:54.18jbowler-awayrwhitby: yes, and I checked on nslu2-linux too.  Something weird is happening.
21:54.29Piginigth all
21:55.35jbowler-awayOk, I synced to the nslu2-linux database, that revision is there now, so that works.
21:56.22jbowler-awayDang, there are two heads.
21:57.33koenhufnus: anynomous pull is enabled
21:59.25jbowler-awayThe nslu2-linux org.openembedded.dev has the same head (now) as mine.
22:01.51jbowler-awaykoen: I think my push may have caused your db to have two heads on the openembedded.dev branch.
22:02.20jbowler-away(And I don't understand this - my model of the branching structure is flawed somewhere.)
22:02.30koenckoen@dominion:/data/build/oe/monotone/org.openembedded$ monotone merge
22:02.30koenmonotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is merged
22:02.50jbowler-awayWhat is the head of that branch?
22:03.11koenkoen@dominion:/data/build/oe/monotone/org.openembedded$ monotone heads
22:03.11koenmonotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
22:03.11koen526c5e54a8723f6b4ff9f8426dd64c69f4ab3db5 koen@openembedded.org 2005-06-24T21:19:31
22:03.58jbowler-awayUnchanged from before my push.  Yet I have a different head in my database.
22:04.10koentry merging it
22:04.36jbowler-awayI get the 'misuse' message.
22:05.02lilalinuxkoen: I checked out but there is no xserver/
22:05.09lilalinuxI did: monotone --db=meshcube pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded
22:05.14*** join/#oe Virusmaster (~Thomas@p549D6C78.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:05.20lilalinuxand: monotone --db=meshcube co --branch org.openembedded.dev
22:06.09koenlilalinux: according to http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=526c5e54a8723f6b4ff9f8426dd64c69f4ab3db5 there is
22:07.52lilalinuxDid I do something wrong? See my commandlines above
22:08.04lilalinuxoh, my bad
22:08.09lilalinuxI looked in the classes dir
22:08.11lilalinuxnot the packages
22:08.14lilalinuxthere it is
22:08.42koenjbowler-away: you could take a look at the db with monotone-viz
22:12.12koenjbowler-away: ewi has 93 certs, when that changes, you'll know it succeeded
22:12.34jbowler-awayJust googling monotone-viz
22:12.50jacquesdyoung, I restarted my build, but it's rebuilding samba (I think it changed)
22:12.59koenjbowler-away: http://venge.net/monotone/tools.html
22:13.00jacquesoops wrong channel
22:13.58koenhmmmm
22:14.13koenmonotone docs are quiet on the dropping of branches
22:16.54koen'night all
22:32.20Luke-Jrhow do I select whether a package is targetting native or cross?
22:32.36Luke-Jrputting -native in the name doesn't seem to do it ^^;
22:32.55pb_"inherit native"
22:34.09*** join/#oe molivier (~mac@d03v-1-107.d4.club-internet.fr)
22:41.43*** join/#oe |dkey| (~dkey@193.170.48.234)
22:49.32*** join/#oe aboeglin (~alex@213.154.79.4)
22:51.08lilalinuxwhat is xserver-kdrive?
22:51.20NAiLsmall xserver
22:51.29NAiLI think knoppix uses it
22:51.38lilalinuxthx
22:51.44NAiLnp
23:06.46*** join/#oe molivier (~mac@f02v-30-72.d4.club-internet.fr)
23:20.48*** join/#oe hufnus (~slonsiki@m5a1536d0.tmodns.net)
23:24.30hufnusjbowler-away: trying to do a monotone pull but what branch and url???
23:34.23*** join/#oe qip|Virus|da (~Thomas@p549D6C78.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:44.11*** join/#oe aboeglin (~alex@213.154.79.4)

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with blootbot logs, split per channel, etc.