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| 00:30.14 | keturn | libjava/libltdl fails to compile because it can't find argz.h |
| 00:30.24 | keturn | (in gcc-3.4.4) |
| 00:32.30 | jbowler-away | With the changes to build mpfr-native the build of gcc-4.0.0 still fails as before: |
| 00:32.31 | jbowler-away | ccache gcc -I/home/work-tmp/jbowler/nslu2/openslug/staging/i686-linux/include -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o f951 \ |
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| 00:32.35 | jbowler-away | /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lmpfr |
| 00:33.25 | jbowler-away | In other words (I believe) "I'm still looking for libmpfr.a in the standard directories not staging". |
| 00:33.54 | keturn | jbowler-away: well, you got it to the link stage, at least. last I tried it failed on the include file, not the lib. |
| 00:35.13 | chouimat | kergoth: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=429 |
| 00:35.47 | jbowler-away | That's the same place it failed last time, before I disabled gcc-4.0.0 on NSLU2. |
| 00:36.33 | jbowler-away | It's still sad. |
| 00:39.35 | jacques | can we just disable fortran for armeb ? |
| 00:40.25 | jbowler-away | Probably, maybe I'll try that - it will speed things up... |
| 00:40.43 | jbowler-away | Not that I'm not a FORTRAN fan, but I prefer '66 |
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| 00:41.59 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 00:53.01 | jbowler-away | I'm going to try building f77 instead of f93 |
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| 01:47.24 | jbowler-away | No, f77 is not supported, disabling f77 completely gives this error message: |
| 01:47.25 | jbowler-away | bin/ld: unrecognised emulation mode: armelf_linux |
| 01:47.26 | jbowler-away | | Supported emulations: armelfb_linux armelfb |
| 01:47.51 | jbowler-away | (for the build of libgcc_s.so) |
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| 01:49.56 | jbowler-away | Which means that it needs gcc-3.4.0-arm-bigendian.patch or some alternative. |
| 01:52.43 | jacques | that's indeed what it looks like |
| 02:06.00 | keturn | I just caught up with your "cannot find -lmpfr" on mipsel. |
| 02:07.40 | keturn | somehow, I didn't have a day for "troubleshoot several different builds of gcc" allocated in my schedule. this is a bit of a problem. |
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| 02:45.25 | darmou_ | Hi all does anyone know what -fl is? for some reason when I try to recompile links to use x-windows rather than fb the linker reports an error but I do'nt know what -fl is in order to fix it. |
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| 03:05.15 | chouimat | kergoth: if you need to renovate your house http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4385882618 |
| 04:03.41 | CIA-4 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3503 10openembedded/packages/altboot/altboot_20050609.bb: altboot: update to latest version |
| 04:03.43 | CIA-4 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3500 10openembedded/packages/ipkg/ipkg-collateral.bb: ipkg-collateral: Bump PR |
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| 04:08.20 | jacques | hmm, sharp announced sl-c3100 |
| 04:09.08 | jacques | but I can't tell what's different other than 16MB->128MB flash upgrade |
| 04:09.19 | CoreDump|afk | there is none |
| 04:09.33 | CoreDump|afk | ah, the casing is now black |
| 04:09.36 | CoreDump|afk | ;) |
| 04:12.06 | jacques | oooooh, black! |
| 04:12.11 | jacques | black is the new black |
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| 04:27.08 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | http://bugs.openembedded.org/ (l/p guest/guest) | This is not a distribution support channel | The OE mailing list is back, but everyone needs to resubscribe. | We have a bitbake-dev mailing list for discussions on the core. If you're interested in BitBake-Ng, please subscribe. | LCA 2005 Embedded Miniconf - http://www.openembedded.org/miniconf |
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| 04:45.30 | Luke-Jr | jacques: seeing as there were a lot of people trying to mod the C1000 to have the internal CF slot, I'd say the C3100 changes are plenty for some people ;) |
| 04:47.22 | jacques | Luke-Jr, you mean because they want the big flash and hd too ? |
| 04:48.01 | Luke-Jr | jacques: yes |
| 04:48.08 | Luke-Jr | jacques: or possibly WiFi |
| 04:48.30 | jacques | yeah internal wifi would be great |
| 04:48.48 | Luke-Jr | WiFi would be a bit more complex a mod, even for the c3100 |
| 04:48.58 | Luke-Jr | need to replace the end-bulge w/ an antenna |
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| 06:16.07 | foo | I have a zaurus 5600 here that was given to me. I can't seem to be able to get files onto it.. I have tried qtopia desktop but sync is disabled... I tried windows, but I couldn't find the driver for it. Only cf disk I have is a digital camera. Any ideas? |
| 06:28.43 | kergoth | this is not a distribution support channel. |
| 06:28.50 | kergoth | see #zaurus or #openzaurus |
| 06:30.03 | foo | whoops |
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| 06:57.26 | ibot | koen <~koen@2001:610:600:93:0:0:0:2> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 1d 8h 13m 50s ago, saying: ''night all'. |
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| 07:07.30 | RP | morning all |
| 07:10.41 | koen | good morning RP |
| 07:11.52 | do13 | morning RP |
| 07:12.40 | hrw | hi all |
| 07:12.50 | koen | hey hrw & do13 |
| 07:13.00 | hrw | wifi is nice thing to have |
| 07:13.06 | koen | :) |
| 07:13.51 | hrw | now I need: terminal which know what is Alt, Ctrl and will give me Alt+1 in irssi over screen over ssh |
| 07:13.58 | hrw | better www browser |
| 07:14.05 | hrw | fixed opie-irc |
| 07:14.10 | do13 | hi koen |
| 07:14.35 | koen | hrw: esc <release> 1 |
| 07:14.42 | koen | the cancel button should also work |
| 07:14.53 | hrw | koen: iirc I have Alt key on c7x0.. |
| 07:15.02 | koen | next to '-' |
| 07:15.18 | hrw | koen: but in opie-console it does not work |
| 07:15.36 | RP | hrw, koen: The two japanese keys are ctrl+alt. I suspect something is wrong with opie's handling of them though |
| 07:15.38 | hrw | on vt1 also (when did ssh somewhere -t screen -RDU) |
| 07:16.03 | hrw | probably also COLUMNS/ROWS are not set ok on vt1 |
| 07:16.56 | koen | RP: they work with rxvt |
| 07:17.41 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 07:18.47 | hrw | ok. opie-irc bugs raported |
| 07:19.07 | hrw | ~spell raported |
| 07:19.33 | hrw | ~botsnack |
| 07:19.33 | ibot | :), hrw |
| 07:20.04 | hrw | heh.. and now I again have >10 open bugs in opie |
| 07:20.49 | RP | I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about the correct behaviour of the floating point code? |
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| 07:31.48 | koen | RP: you mean the nwfpe? |
| 07:31.55 | koen | don't know anything about that, sorry |
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| 07:36.11 | do13 | RP: I've never looked into this. I guess with our softfloat toolchain this doesn't affect us. |
| 07:39.46 | Arjan_zZ | hi people! can someone explain to me how the version sorting is done in OE? i.e. why '2.6.11-bk1' is considered newer than '2.6.11.11'? |
| 07:43.31 | RP | d013: Linux won't compile without an emulator so it will affect us |
| 07:47.36 | koen | why does the mailman ring when I'm in the shower? |
| 07:48.15 | koen | RP: I just received your evil counterpart: hx4700 |
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| 07:48.58 | koen | RP: what do you think about a new MACHINE, like ipaq-pxa-270? |
| 07:59.52 | hrw|work | re |
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| 08:02.20 | do13 | RP: You can compile the kernel without fp emulation |
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| 08:05.18 | RP | koen: We could probably just fix ipaq-pxa-2.6 to work, or just use c7x0... |
| 08:05.36 | RP | d013: That's not what the comments in Kconfig say :-/ |
| 08:06.24 | koen | RP: pxa270 kernels can't run on pxa255 machines |
| 08:06.43 | koen | RP: I want 1 'magic' kernel for the pxa270 machines |
| 08:06.57 | koen | and 1 for the pxa25y ones |
| 08:07.12 | RP | koen: I always compile the kernel seperately. You install it seperately on the hx2750 anyway as we don't touch the mtd yet... |
| 08:07.32 | RP | koen: Someone should make kernels work on both pxa270 and pxa255... |
| 08:07.38 | RP | It should be straightforward |
| 08:07.38 | koen | yeah |
| 08:07.55 | RP | I keep meaning to do that... |
| 08:08.12 | do13 | RP: Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready (15K smaller) |
| 08:08.40 | koen | RP: and I'm not really OK with running a kernel plastered with OZ propaganda on an ipaq running !OZ |
| 08:09.31 | RP | koen: I know. I have said I want to rename that kernel. Just a question of to what... |
| 08:09.50 | koen | linux-RP |
| 08:10.01 | koen | linux-chav ;) |
| 08:10.40 | RP | do13: Someone should really fix the comments if that kernel will run... |
| 08:11.24 | do13 | It's untested. Maybe after work I will test this. |
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| 08:13.56 | RP | do13: I'll be interested to know if it works. I might have a try at building one here later on... |
| 08:15.16 | RP | I have most of a fix for nwfpe. I just need someone to answer some questions on what the correct bahaviour should be under certain conditions... |
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| 08:17.16 | Arjan | koen: pocketpc has that quite a long time already |
| 08:18.27 | koen | Arjan: it *says* it has it |
| 08:18.43 | koen | Arjan: the menus still look hidious |
| 08:19.19 | Arjan | koen: I never tried it actually, I hate it :) |
| 08:35.03 | jacques | anyone seen a problem with openssh where only root can ssh to a remote server, and non-root gets Host key verification failed. ? |
| 08:37.08 | proti | jacques: seems a problem with incorrect rights on the files. |
| 08:37.25 | jacques | yeah I'm checking that but haven't found anything |
| 08:37.34 | pH5 | jacques: try to delete the offending host key from ~/.ssh/known_hosts if you're sure it's the right machine on the other end? |
| 08:38.24 | jacques | I was using dropbear and it was working other than the dropbear sshd was disconnecting me with "Disconnecting: Protocol error: expected packet type 31, got 82" so I switched to openssh |
| 08:38.44 | jacques | this is between machines on my home network |
| 08:38.54 | jacques | and I have tried removing known_hosts |
| 08:39.12 | jacques | if I don't have it, I get " Host key verification failed." |
| 08:39.31 | jacques | if I copy root's, I get : |
| 08:39.34 | jacques | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 08:39.34 | jacques | Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive). |
| 08:40.39 | proti | jacques: Did you set the option to reject anything that isn't in the known_hosts ? |
| 08:41.48 | jacques | no, but anyway, it works for root |
| 08:42.23 | jacques | even when I remove root's known_hosts file, it works as expected and generates a new one |
| 08:43.16 | proti | Your host key is correct ? Can you connect to something else ? |
| 08:44.38 | jacques | as root I can connect to whatever I want |
| 08:45.15 | proti | Can you do a strace as normal user to check if an open syscall fails ? |
| 08:45.45 | jacques | yeah I know, but I have to find an old strace ipkg or build it native first |
| 08:45.59 | jacques | current oe-built strace does not work on my platform (it used to) |
| 08:48.51 | proti | jacques: Let see. It tries ~/.ssh/ssh_config, then /etc/ssh/ssh_config. Are the permissions on those files and dir corrects ? |
| 08:49.54 | pH5 | jacques: could this be related to your problem: http://www.experts-exchange.com/Security/Linux_Security/Q_20877265.html |
| 08:50.55 | proti | jacques: Then I suggest to try a ssh -vvv for a connection that fails. |
| 08:52.17 | jacques | ah OK I'd only tried -vv just a sec |
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| 08:53.29 | jacques | nothing obvious in the debug info - give me a few minutes to build strace |
| 09:03.25 | jacques | hmm, my native-built strace isn't working either - I had found an olf ipk which worked a couple of days ago - maybe there's something wrong with this version of strace |
| 09:04.18 | pH5 | jacques: i think atm that ssh can't open /dev/tty. what are your permissions there? |
| 09:05.11 | jacques | crw-rw--w- 1 root root 5, 0 Jun 7 01:55 /dev/tty |
| 09:05.34 | jacques | yes!!!! |
| 09:05.36 | jacques | that was it! |
| 09:05.41 | jacques | THANKS pH5 |
| 09:05.45 | pH5 | np :) |
| 09:06.17 | jacques | apparently dropbear doesn't use /dev/tty |
| 09:08.53 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3499.10.1 10openembedded/packages/maemo/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add hildon-libs, part of the maemo.org suite |
| 09:13.37 | hrw|work | jacques: what machine you use? |
| 09:15.29 | jacques | hrw|work, nslu2 (armeb) |
| 09:15.43 | jacques | openslug dist currently |
| 09:15.49 | proti | hrw|work: I thought about a nice to have feature for bitbake : drop to interactive shell if a task failed. |
| 09:16.43 | jacques | AHA!! |
| 09:17.06 | jacques | they broke strace for armeb between 4.5.9 and 4.5.11 |
| 09:17.56 | jacques | linux/arm/syscallent.h: Fix 113 entry (syscall, not vm86old) |
| 09:18.03 | jacques | in 4.5.11 changes is probably it |
| 09:18.09 | jacques | I can try 4.5.10 to be sure |
| 09:18.47 | jacques | too bad oe has been so "efficient" lately removing "old" versions of things |
| 09:19.05 | jacques | only 4.5.11 remains |
| 09:20.13 | jacques | well, I can try 4.5.10 if sourceforge ever responds |
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| 09:25.37 | hrw|work | jacques: it is 2.4 or 2.6 based? (kernel) |
| 09:25.55 | jacques | hrw|work, openslug is 2.6 based - currently at 2.6.11.2 |
| 09:26.24 | jacques | armv5teb arch |
| 09:26.27 | hrw|work | jacques: update udev 058 to newer |
| 09:26.57 | jacques | hrw|work, you mean for the tty perms problem? |
| 09:27.21 | jacques | I think we may not be using udev :-\ |
| 09:27.31 | hrw|work | jacques: for /dev/ permissions at all |
| 09:27.47 | hrw|work | jacques: I had most of /dev/ entries as 660 |
| 09:27.53 | jacques | ah |
| 09:33.12 | jacques | OK, strace 4.5.10 is also broken - so 4.5.9 is the last strace that works for armeb |
| 09:34.04 | proti | jacques: You could try to remove the offending syscall modification to see if it is the culprit arch brokeness. |
| 09:35.15 | jacques | apparently it was somethingin 4.5.10 |
| 09:36.37 | jacques | and I don't see anything obvious looking at the changes from 4.5.9 to 4.5.10 |
| 09:37.18 | jacques | strace-devel looks like 98% spam |
| 09:37.25 | jacques | (list) |
| 09:44.23 | jacques | I send a mail to the strace-devel list, I am not subscribed so it may bounce |
| 09:44.34 | jacques | and nobody may read it because of the spam problem :-\ |
| 09:49.50 | proti | jacques: Try to contact roland at redhat dot com (from the changelog). |
| 09:50.22 | jacques | proti, OK I'll send the email to him too |
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| 10:23.26 | mickeyl | morning |
| 10:25.41 | bluelightning | hi mickeyl |
| 10:31.15 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 10:32.46 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
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| 10:41.12 | pb_ | hi all |
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| 10:42.42 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 10:44.09 | RP | hi pb_ |
| 10:46.44 | jacques | hi pb_ |
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| 11:37.45 | ade|desk | afternoon all |
| 11:37.52 | bluelightning | hi ade|desk |
| 11:37.58 | koen | hey ade|desk |
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| 11:43.07 | reenoo | afternoon |
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| 12:18.54 | [g2] | pb_ around ? |
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| 13:00.03 | Twiun | don't suppose I sent my CV for anyone to review back in oct 2003? |
| 13:06.58 | ascent | anyone in here has an opinion about needing an initrd or not when booting from mmc with a kernel with both mmc suppport and ext2 support builtin ? |
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| 13:11.43 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * r245 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: |
| 13:11.43 | CIA-4 | Greatly improve pastebin functionality: |
| 13:11.43 | CIA-4 | The BitBake shell now features a generic output buffer for the last 10 commands. |
| 13:11.43 | CIA-4 | You can dump an overview about the buffered commands with 'buffers' and dump |
| 13:11.43 | CIA-4 | the contents of a buffer with 'buffer <n>'. Likewise, 'pastebin <n>' uploads |
| 13:11.44 | CIA-4 | the contents of the said buffer. NOTE: 'lasterror' is still available, but has been |
| 13:11.46 | CIA-4 | renamed to 'lastlog'. The old pastebin command is still available with 'pastelog'. |
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| 13:14.24 | mickeyl | BigAl: LCD? |
| 13:14.32 | BigAl | mickeyl: Yup! |
| 13:14.36 | mickeyl | yahoo |
| 13:14.40 | mickeyl | ~praise BigAl |
| 13:14.41 | ibot | All hail BigAl! |
| 13:14.47 | mickeyl | BigAl: what made it work? |
| 13:14.56 | BigAl | mickeyl: It was that lcdtg tchip that was fucking it up, it wasn't playing nice on the ssp bus. |
| 13:15.07 | mickeyl | aah |
| 13:15.24 | BigAl | I copied the really nasty sharp code over that bit-bangs the bits into it and it worked. |
| 13:15.25 | RP | BigAl: yay! :) |
| 13:15.31 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 13:15.41 | mickeyl | that's a brakethrough |
| 13:15.46 | mickeyl | eh |
| 13:15.48 | mickeyl | breakthrough even |
| 13:15.52 | mickeyl | ~spell breakthrough |
| 13:16.24 | BigAl | RP: It looks like you got it working without using the sharp bit banging, how did you manage that? |
| 13:16.48 | RP | BigAl: There is bit banging code in there - I just cleaned it up |
| 13:16.50 | mickeyl | don't we still do the bitbaning ? |
| 13:16.54 | mickeyl | yeah, but elsewhere |
| 13:17.02 | koen | http://pastebin.com/297667 |
| 13:17.04 | koen | ~hail mickeyl |
| 13:17.06 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:17.25 | RP | BigAl: I'd be interested to see the changes you need |
| 13:17.29 | mickeyl | koen: IT WORKS! :)) |
| 13:18.37 | koen | lets see how many browsers I can choke :) |
| 13:18.41 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:19.33 | koen | the hostname bit is still a bit shakey |
| 13:19.36 | mickeyl | RP: the bit banging you mean is in sharpsl, right? |
| 13:19.41 | mickeyl | RP: sharp_params even |
| 13:19.55 | mickeyl | koen: does your environment not define $HOST ? |
| 13:20.10 | BigAl | RP: I needed to add in the bit-banging code from pxa_ssp.c that toggles the gpio lines individually to get the lcdtg chip working, although in the corgi_ssp.c file from you it looks like you just set up some paramaters and use the ssp bus normally. |
| 13:20.23 | koen | mickeyl: apparently not |
| 13:20.27 | RP | mickeyl: No, there is some bit banging code in corgi_lcd.c |
| 13:20.32 | mickeyl | koen: can you check $HOSTNAME please |
| 13:20.37 | mickeyl | RP: ah right |
| 13:20.44 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/build$ env | grep HOSTkoen@bitbake:~/OE/build$ |
| 13:20.51 | koen | nothing whatsoever |
| 13:20.57 | koen | mickeyl: `hostname` |
| 13:21.01 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 13:21.12 | mickeyl | yeah, i'll probably better just call hostname |
| 13:21.13 | RP | BigAl: Correct, but there is an extra layer of bit manipulation does still go on in corgi_lcd |
| 13:21.35 | BigAl | RP: I'm using that as well, but it was the SSP stuff which was failing. |
| 13:21.57 | RP | BigAl: You did map the gpio's correctly? |
| 13:22.33 | RP | BigAl: I'm not entirely sure which bits of code we're talking about - I'd be very interested to see the patch, then perhaps I can comment more |
| 13:22.33 | BigAl | RP: I managed to get some data out of the MAX1111, so I thought it was working ok. |
| 13:22.56 | do13 | mickeyl: Are you still interested in bluetooth? Here is a picture of my soldered module http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/pictures/tosa_bluetooth.jpg |
| 13:23.16 | RP | BigAl: Each ssp device is essentially independent - just because one works, doesn't mean they all will |
| 13:23.46 | RP | do13: very neat :) |
| 13:23.48 | BigAl | RP: I'll double check the GPIO mappings for the lcdtg chip then. |
| 13:24.12 | RP | BigAl: I'm thinking of the ssp enable/disable pins |
| 13:24.29 | mickeyl | do13: whoah, that's cool |
| 13:25.30 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * r246 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: Use socket.gethostname() instead of os.environ["HOST"]. That should work on all systems. |
| 13:26.35 | mickeyl | do13: looks beyond my capabilities :) |
| 13:27.21 | do13 | No soldering skills? |
| 13:28.25 | mickeyl | not at all :/ |
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| 13:39.28 | mallum | mickeyl: out of interest, any movement on opie/x11 stuff ? |
| 13:40.08 | bluelightning | night all |
| 13:40.20 | koen | 'night bluelightning |
| 13:40.29 | RP | 'night bluelightning |
| 13:45.21 | hrw|work | mallum: iirc one person work on it |
| 13:45.30 | mickeyl | mallum: bero started to port some things to qt4/x11. |
| 13:45.46 | mickeyl | mallum: there's no real masterplan atm. though |
| 13:46.28 | mickeyl | When we go qt4, I want to get rid of libqpe. That makes us more flexible |
| 13:46.30 | mickeyl | less compatible though |
| 13:46.32 | mickeyl | ... |
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| 13:47.23 | hrw|work | mickeyl: how much code is in libqpe now? maybe someone put some wrappers there and it will be ok? |
| 13:47.36 | koen | campatible with the 0,1% of the users |
| 13:47.39 | koen | aargh |
| 13:47.42 | koen | incompatible |
| 13:48.02 | koen | hrw|work: O{device,resource} etc |
| 13:48.35 | mickeyl | hrw|work: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia1.6/html/qtopiaclasses.html |
| 13:48.46 | mickeyl | quite some code |
| 13:48.53 | mallum | mickeyl: okey :) good luck |
| 13:49.46 | mickeyl | mallum: one last note about that... when I get my Nokia 770 I want to port Wellenreiter to it, so I will definitly go Qt4/X11 to make that happen :) |
| 13:51.43 | koen | mickeyl: *if* you get if ;) |
| 13:51.50 | mickeyl | hah |
| 13:51.50 | koen | s/if/it/ somewhere |
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| 13:52.05 | mickeyl | why shouldn't i get it? |
| 13:52.19 | mickeyl | not necessarily for the devel price |
| 13:52.42 | mickeyl | although i really would deserve one |
| 13:52.43 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:52.55 | koen | port wellenreiter to gtk :) |
| 13:53.44 | mickeyl | that'd be too much of an undetake |
| 13:54.00 | mickeyl | my complete protocol dissection engine is based on qt utility classes |
| 13:54.46 | koen | if you want to keep the original gui, it might be worth it to hook wellenreiter up to osso |
| 13:55.13 | koen | that gives you lots of integration stuff |
| 13:55.27 | mickeyl | i'm a c++ guy though |
| 13:55.37 | hrw|work | gtkmm? |
| 13:55.37 | mallum | mickeyl: whats Wellenreiter ? |
| 13:55.44 | koen | kismet for opie |
| 13:55.52 | koen | "waverider" |
| 13:56.00 | mickeyl | mallum: THE Wireless network scanner for Opie. http://www.vanille.de/projects/wellenreiter.html |
| 13:56.34 | mickeyl | it's much better than kismet though ;) |
| 13:56.38 | mallum | mickeyl: ah cool :) |
| 13:57.41 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can you look into opiestumbler to check does it will find network without broadcasted ssid? |
| 13:58.10 | hrw|work | wellenreiter and opie-networksettings are able to find my home network but stumbler not |
| 13:58.21 | mickeyl | hrw|work: It won't |
| 13:58.31 | mickeyl | opiestumbler bases on active scan |
| 13:58.40 | hrw|work | mickeyl: which need ssid? |
| 13:58.41 | mickeyl | only APs which 'want' to response will be shown |
| 13:58.46 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:59.05 | hrw|work | anyway networksettings found my AP so no problem |
| 13:59.15 | mickeyl | according to ljp it's fluff |
| 13:59.20 | mickeyl | i should remove that feature |
| 13:59.20 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:59.24 | koen | and bloat |
| 13:59.26 | hrw|work | I need to find some time and flash something usefull to that linksys... |
| 13:59.36 | koen | mickeyl: remove everything !PIM |
| 14:00.17 | mickeyl | ya |
| 14:01.12 | hrw|work | my blue-blackbox works but I feel strange when cannot hack into it... |
| 14:01.58 | mickeyl | since br1 added the kernel there shouldn |
| 14:02.07 | mickeyl | t be anything hindering us to finish a distro |
| 14:02.35 | hrw|work | mickeyl: sooner or later I will look into openwrt and cooperate with br1 to get something working |
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| 14:02.49 | hrw|work | there are many noncompatible revs of wrt54g(s) |
| 14:03.31 | koen | hrw|work: did you add an sd card reader yet? |
| 14:04.13 | koen | hrw|work: http://kiel.kool.dk/ |
| 14:04.41 | hrw|work | koen: first I have to get it working under !linksys |
| 14:05.13 | hrw|work | and that sdmod is only for wrt54g not wrt54gs |
| 14:06.32 | RP | mickeyl: I was playing with wellenreiter recently - its a very nice piece of software. Can't wait to interface it to my new gps receiever :) |
| 14:06.49 | mickeyl | RP: thanks :) |
| 14:09.03 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:10.11 | pb_ | [g2]: hello |
| 14:10.15 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 14:10.19 | mickeyl | greetings pb_ |
| 14:10.45 | do13 | koen: sd card reader is a nice addon. Maybe I can solder bluetooth into my wrt54g:) |
| 14:10.55 | koen | :) |
| 14:11.08 | hrw|work | do13: do you have vgaout already? |
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| 14:11.39 | do13 | Do you have a small module or chip? |
| 14:11.54 | hrw|work | do13: I only saw that hack |
| 14:12.31 | hrw|work | its amazing what people do with those boxes... sdcard, vgaout, sound out (covox), serial ports, nokia 3310lcdfb |
| 14:13.23 | koen | vga out? |
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| 14:14.46 | hrw|work | http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Customizing |
| 14:14.59 | hrw|work | http://www.duff.dk/wrt54gs/pics/Complete_VGA_Setup.jpg |
| 14:15.13 | koen | holy crap |
| 14:16.55 | mickeyl | heh cool |
| 14:17.58 | hrw|work | but dont show it to zaurus users... they will start to ask "does it run opie? can I run openoffice on it? can it bootstrap debian?" etc crap |
| 14:18.12 | mickeyl | can it run pxaxROM ? |
| 14:18.18 | mickeyl | pdaXROM even |
| 14:18.37 | koen | can I run debian inside X/qt inside sharp cra^h^h^hrom? |
| 14:18.58 | hrw|work | which is altbooted from oz 3.5.3 on 5000D |
| 14:19.06 | dmag | anyone know if there's a way to (easily) prevent bitbake from downloading new cvs snapshots every day? I.e. only use the last downloaded snapshot. |
| 14:19.16 | hrw|work | dmag: CVSDATE |
| 14:19.23 | koen | dmag: CVSDATE=20050609 |
| 14:19.28 | Crofton|laptop | cvsdate is your friend :) |
| 14:19.34 | ascent | CVSDATE :P |
| 14:19.59 | dmag | cool, but what happens when it needs a new file (and it's past the CVSDATE?) |
| 14:20.06 | ascent | it won't download it :) |
| 14:21.21 | dmag | so if it's past CVSDATE, and there is *no* previous download, it will fail? |
| 14:21.35 | koen | no, it will download it |
| 14:21.43 | koen | for the CVSADTE specified |
| 14:22.01 | dmag | it will use CVS then (instead of CVS snap)? |
| 14:22.23 | [g2] | pb_, hey :) |
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| 14:34.19 | dmag | will CVSDATE work with svn or do I do something different? |
| 14:35.50 | CosmicPenguin | yes, it will work |
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| 14:37.03 | [g2] | pb_, I was looking for an arm assembler guru earlier |
| 14:37.22 | [g2] | if I get stuck I may ping you again for a very simple issue |
| 14:40.36 | RP | [g2]: I'd just ask as someone else might be able to help. I have some knowledge of arm assembler for example... |
| 14:46.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3507 10openembedded/packages/maemo/osso-thumbnail_0.3.1-1.bb: osso-thumbnail_0.3.1-1.bb: fix packaging snafu, thanks to Florian for spotting it |
| 14:49.30 | pb_ | [g2]: righto |
| 14:49.45 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3508 10openembedded/packages/maemo/ (hildon-home_0.8.20-2.bb osso-thumbnail_0.3.1-1.bb): Add hildon-home, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor |
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| 15:09.01 | pb_ | cool |
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| 15:09.26 | [g2] | the program fully assembles now |
| 15:09.28 | [g2] | THX |
| 15:09.56 | RP | pb_: Did you have a chance to look that fpa datasheet out? |
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| 15:13.43 | pb_ | RP: no, it's on the other side of town. I'll have to get it later this afternoon. |
| 15:13.58 | RP | pb_: ah, ok |
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| 15:29.06 | koen | I think there is hope for the wifi loving zaurus owners: nintendo will install a gazillion hotspots in japan |
| 15:29.19 | koen | so sharp *might* consider butting wifi in a Z |
| 15:29.49 | koen | ehm |
| 15:29.56 | koen | putting in |
| 15:32.50 | ade|desk | lol |
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| 15:42.15 | dmag | in oe, how do I know what |
| 15:42.23 | dmag | what's going to be built? |
| 15:42.45 | koen | it builds what you need to build what you want |
| 15:42.49 | dmag | when i build collie, how does it know what packages to build? |
| 15:43.05 | dmag | It's not in handheld-conf, it's not in collie.conf.. |
| 15:43.40 | dmag | (as an aside, it would be nice to be able to see out the dependancy tree..) |
| 15:44.00 | pb_ | what do you mean by "build collie"? collie is a machine; it's not something you can build. |
| 15:44.09 | pb_ | unless you are sharp, I suppose |
| 15:44.52 | pb_ | if you want to see what's going to be built without actually building it, you can use "bitbake --dry-run". |
| 15:45.01 | dmag | good point. how do I build GPE? |
| 15:45.15 | pb_ | bitbake gpe-image |
| 15:46.04 | dmag | aha. that helps.. |
| 15:47.29 | dmag | can i dry-run from bitbake -i ? |
| 15:48.38 | dmag | in other words, test a package before i build it without exiting bitbake? |
| 15:53.13 | pb_ | I'm not sure. You might have to take that up with shellmeister mickeyl. |
| 15:53.34 | dmag | ok, thanks! |
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| 16:01.22 | hrw|work | cu |
| 16:03.48 | hrw|work | cu monday |
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| 16:04.37 | lardman|busy | bye |
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| 16:34.34 | RP | morning kergoth |
| 16:34.42 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:34.50 | RP | all unpacked? :) |
| 16:35.26 | kergoth | just about. still lots of books and stuff to fill my bookshelf with |
| 16:37.09 | RP | not too bad then. Settled in to the new/old place? |
| 16:37.21 | kergoth | yep |
| 16:37.32 | kergoth | now need to figure out what to do to establish some cash flow |
| 16:37.55 | RP | ah, that problem :-/ |
| 16:38.48 | subdue | packed? |
| 16:38.50 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 16:39.32 | chouimat | kergoth: win the lottery and start kergoth technologies inc. |
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| 16:56.23 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 16:57.54 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 17:04.53 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3512 10openembedded/packages/maemo/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add libosso-help, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor |
| 17:04.58 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3511 10openembedded/packages/maemo/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add hildon-control-panel, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor |
| 17:05.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3510 10openembedded/packages/maemo/hildon-initscripts_0.8.14-1.bb: Add hildon-initscripts, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor |
| 17:05.08 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3509 10openembedded/packages/maemo/hildon-status-bar_0.8.11-1.bb: Add hildon-status-bar, part of the maemo.org suite, courtesy Florian Boor |
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| 17:36.16 | koen | hey zecke |
| 17:45.15 | zecke | hehe reading arm linux kernel ml... |
| 17:45.34 | zecke | I've 2.4.0-test0-ac1-rmk0 and gcc5 does not compile it |
| 17:46.03 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:46.04 | Luke-Jr | koen: IIRC, Japan already has total WiFi coverage... o.o |
| 17:46.28 | woglinde | zecke lol |
| 17:48.01 | zecke | I wonder when rmk released 2.4.21-rmk1 |
| 17:50.02 | woglinde | zecke sometimes its the same on the mips list |
| 17:52.30 | zecke | woglinde: I'll going to the congress tomorrow |
| 17:53.12 | woglinde | zecke jo |
| 17:53.29 | woglinde | I have to go my basketball club for the financials |
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| 17:55.14 | zecke | *need* food |
| 18:03.27 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * r247 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: |
| 18:03.27 | CIA-4 | add 'shell <command>' which hands a command over to the shell and dumps the output |
| 18:03.27 | CIA-4 | NOTE: Due to a limitation in the bbshell command processor, 'shell' and 'exec' are |
| 18:03.27 | CIA-4 | currently broken when using more than one parameter. This will be sorted out asap. |
| 18:04.57 | koen | mickeyl: does pastebin have a sizelimit? |
| 18:05.30 | mickeyl | koen: not that i know |
| 18:05.37 | mickeyl | koen: is it getting truncated ? |
| 18:05.40 | koen | it is |
| 18:05.56 | mickeyl | bummer. where ~ ? |
| 18:05.56 | koen | http://pastebin.com/297847 |
| 18:06.22 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 18:06.34 | mickeyl | that looks like a limit in the service, not in the command |
| 18:07.04 | koen | you can work around it by only sending the end of the buffer |
| 18:07.15 | koen | (where the error usually is) |
| 18:07.58 | mickeyl | Right. |
| 18:08.46 | zecke | ~apple users |
| 18:09.19 | koen | ~users |
| 18:09.26 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 18:09.34 | zecke | "Hey when there will be a Mac/intel Qt4 version.... I'm presuming it only needs a recompile..." |
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| 18:09.48 | mickeyl | ~factinfo users |
| 18:09.48 | ibot | users -- created by mickeyl <~mickey@deneb.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> at Sun May 15 12:09:43 2005 (25 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by koen, 22s ago. |
| 18:09.51 | woglinde | hahaha |
| 18:09.52 | mickeyl | :) |
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| 18:11.15 | zecke | and continues the quest for food |
| 18:11.22 | koen | the emails ate it |
| 18:11.23 | zecke | Open Fridge, Look, Close Fridge |
| 18:11.29 | zecke | scratch head |
| 18:11.34 | zecke | Open Fridge... |
| 18:11.38 | woglinde | zecke lol |
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| 18:18.17 | koen | zecke: anyway, mono choco chip are better |
| 18:19.04 | zecke | right anyway I will now get my mono looking chips and tune on of the mono-logues in tv |
| 18:19.22 | koen | :) |
| 18:19.31 | koen | zecke: are we rich yet? |
| 18:19.58 | mickeyl | ~pastebin |
| 18:19.59 | ibot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 18:20.48 | mickeyl | is there a list of public pastebins? perhaps we'll find one without a limit |
| 18:21.25 | zecke | koen: rich of thoughts |
| 18:21.33 | zecke | mickeyl: google pastepin.ca |
| 18:21.36 | zecke | mickeyl: check the related sites |
| 18:23.21 | zecke | koen: we could sell our souls and offer Java and C# support |
| 18:23.32 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:23.35 | koen | tempting |
| 18:26.52 | zecke | woglinde: wow gcc4 has fortran77 support ;) |
| 18:27.04 | woglinde | zecke? |
| 18:27.07 | keturn | nopaste at http://www.rafb.net/paste/ doesn't *mention* a limit |
| 18:27.22 | woglinde | zecke whtas worn with f77 support? |
| 18:31.50 | keturn | and if we were feeling clever, we could probably figure out some way to turn groups.google into a pastebin. |
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| 18:32.11 | mickeyl | sure, i could paste it into a usenet group but i don't think people'll like that |
| 18:32.11 | mickeyl | heh |
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| 18:33.08 | koen | a dummy mailinglist |
| 18:34.08 | koen | my evolution had a 'reply to list' option |
| 18:34.15 | koen | thunderbird doesn't |
| 18:35.20 | zecke | 'L' |
| 18:36.16 | mithro | bah ha ha |
| 18:36.19 | mithro | Try the new Soylent Green Energy Drink! |
| 18:36.19 | mithro | "How is it?" |
| 18:36.19 | mithro | "Well, it varies from person to person." |
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| 18:48.14 | keturn | mickeyl: hm, bbshell help doesn't fit in 80 columns |
| 18:50.22 | keturn | and readline support went away? |
| 19:09.36 | [cc]smart | i've got a feeling cyrus-imapd doesn't package everything: http://pastebin.ca/13831 |
| 19:11.54 | [cc]smart | in cyrus-imapd workdir i have image/usr/cyrus/bin which seems to contain the rest of the tsuff |
| 19:12.43 | zecke | [cc]smart: changing the packaging is easy |
| 19:12.56 | [cc]smart | once you know how to do it that is |
| 19:12.58 | [cc]smart | :) |
| 19:13.31 | [cc]smart | well, i don't feel like a python noob, but every time i tried to get how this OE stuff ticks i ended up frustrated |
| 19:14.42 | zecke | [cc]smart: first find out where the cyrus-imap .bb file is |
| 19:14.46 | [cc]smart | or better described, i felt like advabce is so slow, you could a lot of nifty things in the same time and didn't find appropriate docs. that may have changed, but when i think about trying to get at OE owadays i feel lik- no, not agaoin |
| 19:14.53 | [cc]smart | easy one |
| 19:15.07 | [cc]smart | i'm talking about all those variables |
| 19:15.23 | zecke | [cc]smart: we still suck at docs but we're improving slowly |
| 19:17.18 | [cc]smart | so i think i can be more efficient in finding some things to help like describing improvements of nt.conf, tickadj setting and the like i formerly did |
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| 19:18.28 | keturn | Is br1 still around? |
| 19:18.45 | koen | ~seen br1 |
| 19:18.46 | ibot | br1 <~br1@pD9E77FCC.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 31d 3h 27m 2s ago, saying: 'when do i have to use "export VARIABLE = " in .bb files?'. |
| 19:19.02 | koen | ~seen br1_ |
| 19:19.03 | ibot | br1_ <~br1@pD9E0EF47.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 189d 23h 8m 15s ago, saying: 'bye, cya'. |
| 19:21.31 | [cc]smart | wel, it's time for niteshift. thanks all for BB & OE. cu. |
| 19:22.00 | zecke | [cc]smart: cya |
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| 19:37.31 | zecke | http://pastebin.ca/13838 |
| 19:37.41 | zecke | my fucking modem is possessed |
| 19:38.23 | koen | anyway, now pastebin is using the lucene.net indexer running mono it is getting useable |
| 19:39.35 | zecke | no kidding I wonder where my modem gets that crap from... |
| 19:39.53 | zecke | probably they slimmed the Java VM and installed fortune on it |
| 19:41.03 | hrw|husky | re |
| 19:41.15 | hrw|husky | ~lart c7x0 keyboard |
| 19:41.42 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: is somebody trying a very stupid phishing attempt on you? |
| 19:42.35 | hrw|husky | RP: can we have pgup/pgdown on shift+cursors? |
| 19:42.44 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: It is neither an sms or email.. |
| 19:42.55 | CosmicPenguin | heh - strange |
| 19:42.56 | zecke | hrw|husky: just map it |
| 19:43.17 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: I'm having a little problem wih multiplexing... and data connections |
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| 19:43.34 | hrw|husky | zecke: probably will. looking around log in irsiiiii via esc+p/n make me mad |
| 19:43.41 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 19:43.49 | hrw|husky | hi Pigi |
| 19:43.55 | koen | hey Pigi |
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| 19:44.02 | zecke | hrw|husky: both Qt/E and kdrive should cope with it |
| 19:44.12 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 19:44.27 | hrw|husky | morning rene |
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| 19:44.55 | hrw|husky | hi france |
| 19:45.00 | france_ | hrw|husky: hi |
| 19:45.15 | reenoo_ | hey Marcin |
| 19:45.19 | reenoo_ | hi france |
| 19:46.27 | hrw|husky | france_: I will mail you in next few days to get rw access to opie cvs. iirc i have to send some infos about me and ssh2 public key? |
| 19:47.03 | Pigi | koen, I was wondering which could be the right "ipkglibdir" for ipkg-native and ipkg in oe |
| 19:47.26 | Pigi | I would like to prepare the bb for 0.99.150 but I don't know how to handle this.... |
| 19:48.06 | koen | Pigi: I have no idea, sorry |
| 19:48.25 | Pigi | should ask pb_ |
| 19:48.36 | hrw|husky | Pigi: one question.. -verbose_wget but option verbose-wget - does it is correct? |
| 19:48.54 | Pigi | could even be a bug.... |
| 19:48.59 | Pigi | lemme se |
| 19:49.57 | Pigi | hrw|husky, the commandline option is either verbose-wget and verbose_wget |
| 19:50.15 | Pigi | the conf variable inside ipkg is verbose_wget |
| 19:50.16 | hrw|husky | Pigi: ah.. ok then |
| 19:50.46 | hrw|husky | it took me a while to get option name - finally found in sources |
| 19:51.00 | Pigi | koen, "ipkglibdir" is the new option I have added to configure to remove the needed of the ipkg.h patch in oe |
| 19:51.43 | pb_ | Pigi: please set it to "/usr/lib/ipkg" in the .bb file |
| 19:51.44 | Pigi | hrw|husky, I know, but fortunally args.c is one of the better code that is in ipkg |
| 19:52.05 | Pigi | pb_ ok. Either for ipkg-native and ipkg ? |
| 19:52.13 | pb_ | Pigi: yeah, for both |
| 19:52.22 | Pigi | ok. |
| 19:52.26 | pb_ | thanks |
| 19:52.38 | france_ | pb_: hello |
| 19:52.43 | pb_ | hi france_ |
| 19:52.49 | Pigi | pb_ you're welcome |
| 19:52.56 | zecke | france_: hey |
| 19:53.08 | france_ | hrw|husky: and a note from the maintianer. |
| 19:53.26 | zecke | koen: do you think tinderbox would run on mono? |
| 19:53.28 | Pigi | pb_ what ${libdir} is supposed to be in oe ? |
| 19:53.38 | zecke | Pigi: check bitbake.conf |
| 19:53.46 | Pigi | zecke, thx |
| 19:53.56 | zecke | Pigi: most likel /usr/lib |
| 19:53.57 | pb_ | Pigi: it will be /usr/lib for most packages, but -native ones will get a different value. |
| 19:53.58 | koen | zecke: *everything* runs on mono |
| 19:54.06 | koen | anyway, perl is bad |
| 19:54.11 | Pigi | thx |
| 19:54.19 | zecke | koen: not that is perl.NET |
| 19:54.28 | zecke | koen: anyway you can call the luence indexer from it |
| 19:54.39 | koen | :) |
| 19:54.52 | hrw|husky | france_: ofcourse |
| 19:55.15 | hrw|husky | zecke: who finally is a maintainer of opie? |
| 19:55.36 | zecke | not me |
| 19:55.45 | france_ | pb_: today I did a chmod o-rx oe_wiki to stop the spammers, since I did not get any response from the oe folks. I suspect that they are not usiing it any more. It would take a lot of work to restore the pages as spammers have been overwritting the pages of spammers. |
| 19:55.45 | zecke | hrw|husky: do you want an account? |
| 19:56.18 | pb_ | france_: okay, sounds like a good idea |
| 19:56.32 | zecke | france_: make a tar.bz2, put it somewhere, remove the old stuff from the net? |
| 19:56.50 | zecke | actually I would do it, If I've enough rights to do so |
| 19:57.38 | france_ | zecke: are you part of the oe group? |
| 19:57.49 | zecke | france_: I don't think so |
| 19:57.59 | hrw|husky | zecke: finally yes - had recently some misc patches, maybe willl update Polisssh translations because they are too old etc |
| 19:58.33 | zecke | france_: should I drop a mail to admin@hh.org to give hrw an account? |
| 19:58.42 | france_ | zecke: yup! |
| 19:58.51 | france_ | zecke: assuming you want him to have an account :-D |
| 19:58.53 | hrw|husky | zecke: thx |
| 19:59.10 | france_ | zecke: nope you are not in proj_oe |
| 19:59.29 | hrw|husky | france_: and I should post public sshkey? |
| 19:59.55 | france_ | hrw|husky: yup, so that you can log in vai ssh. |
| 20:00.23 | france_ | include it in the e-mail with the user name that would prefer. |
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| 20:00.45 | zecke | france_: did you have time to look over the tinderbox requirements? |
| 20:00.46 | hrw|husky | france_: ofcourse |
| 20:01.45 | france_ | zecke: kergoth, pb, mickeyl, mithro and noda |
| 20:02.36 | france_ | zecke: I would be happy to make the tar.bz2 file for you but changing the permissions, should stop folks from seeing the pages, but I do dislike creating broken links. |
| 20:03.10 | france_ | brb |
| 20:03.39 | zecke | hrw|husky: mail sent |
| 20:04.10 | hrw|husky | ok |
| 20:04.44 | hrw|husky | so i will start another opie-console session and login to home box |
| 20:09.17 | zecke|hack | cya later... |
| 20:13.00 | RP | hrw|husky: Feel free to improve the c7x0 keymap. It was always a just prove it works step :). I'd just ask you document any keys you add |
| 20:13.20 | RP | (So I can benefit as well! ;-) |
| 20:15.28 | france_ | hrw|husky: mail recieved from zecke |
| 20:17.33 | do13 | RP: Did you build a kernel without FPE? |
| 20:17.48 | RP | do13: Not yet. Did you try the one you built? |
| 20:18.07 | do13 | Yes. It works as expected. No problem. |
| 20:19.08 | RP | do13: nice. Makes me wonder why we bother compiling the emulation in really :) |
| 20:20.39 | RP | I guess it does allow us to run statically linked hardflaot binaries... |
| 20:20.55 | do13 | Yep |
| 20:21.33 | RP | do13: I think I can fix nwfpe anyway... |
| 20:22.09 | keturn | is there a way to do "cvs co -d notTheModuleName moduleName" with the cvs fetch method? I don't see one offhand. |
| 20:22.48 | do13 | RP: Is it really necessary to support hardfloat binaries? |
| 20:22.50 | keturn | at the moment bitbake has cvs checkout directories clobbering each other. |
| 20:23.36 | RP | do13: not really, although familar uses them |
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| 20:50.28 | jjg_ | hi |
| 20:50.41 | jjg_ | anyone here building their own familiar linux images? |
| 20:51.41 | zecke|hack | jjg_: koen does |
| 20:56.46 | jjg_ | koen, are there oe meta files available for the familiar build? |
| 20:57.00 | jjg_ | i guess i should just say oe files? since oe implies the meta files? |
| 20:57.28 | Pigi | jjg_, http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
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| 20:58.29 | jjg_ | Crofton_|laptop, hi |
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| 21:01.47 | koen | jjg_: slightly outdated instructions: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/?page=software&sub=bb |
| 21:09.21 | jjg_ | thanks koen |
| 21:09.32 | jjg_ | btw, do you buld for h5550 or simliar? |
| 21:09.42 | do13 | Bye |
| 21:10.26 | jjg_ | koen, looks like i definitely need to ge the OE repo before building Familiar, that correct? |
| 21:11.17 | reenoo_ | jjg_: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 21:11.23 | reenoo_ | jjg_: read that |
| 21:11.26 | jjg_ | reenoo_, yes yes i already am there |
| 21:11.30 | jjg_ | it does not mention famliar |
| 21:12.01 | jjg_ | so someone wanting to build for famliar does not know where to start |
| 21:12.17 | Pigi | jjg_, lot of us started from that page |
| 21:12.20 | jjg_ | but the page koen pasted is what i'm looking for |
| 21:12.25 | Pigi | I have done |
| 21:12.26 | jjg_ | Pigi, as have I |
| 21:12.50 | Pigi | so what' s the problem/question ? |
| 21:13.24 | jjg_ | i've seen no mention of Famliair and figured there would be specific documentation for that |
| 21:13.43 | jjg_ | i'm pulling down the oe repo, now |
| 21:14.09 | Pigi | basically the job starts from DISTRO in local.conf |
| 21:14.50 | jjg_ | am I wrong in thinking there *should* be documentation germane just to familiar? |
| 21:15.15 | jjg_ | I realize that oe/bitbake are unrelated, but Familiar is a very important project relying on it |
| 21:15.23 | jjg_ | unrelated to Familiar that is |
| 21:16.34 | kergoth | jjg_: yes it is. and? if the familiar guys think they need a seperate doc, which is unlikely, they're welcome to write one. until then, follow the instructions in GettingStarted and set your DISTRO to familiar. thats all you need to do. |
| 21:16.49 | jjg_ | ok, great |
| 21:16.56 | jjg_ | maybe that should be in a wiki somewhere |
| 21:17.18 | jjg_ | or somebody should put that in a chatbot that can cluebat *ME* |
| 21:17.21 | koen | kergoth: that document is in place if I delete my local.conf *again* |
| 21:17.26 | Pigi | welcome back kergoth. |
| 21:18.31 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:18.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:19.35 | koen | (there used to be a "hire me" statement on that page, which worked out) |
| 21:20.02 | hrw|husky | cu monday |
| 21:20.09 | koen | later hrw|gone |
| 21:21.37 | reenoo_ | hey kergoth |
| 21:22.09 | zecke|hack | kergoth: hey |
| 21:22.13 | subdue | kergoth: where are you going? |
| 21:22.37 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:23.07 | subdue | people were talking about your unpacking, etc |
| 21:23.29 | pb_ | subdue: generally, you unpack after you arrive, not before you leave |
| 21:23.45 | subdue | they also talked about his packing |
| 21:24.00 | subdue | earlier today |
| 21:24.05 | kergoth | subdue: quit my job at ti, in texas, and moved back to my old townhouse in minnesota. now unemployed |
| 21:24.13 | kergoth | got here like a week or two ago |
| 21:24.13 | subdue | oh! |
| 21:24.27 | subdue | wow. ti's pretty impressive |
| 21:24.29 | kergoth | only just got my stuff from the movers yesterday, hence the unpacking |
| 21:24.39 | kergoth | ti's great, juts the job wasnt a good fit |
| 21:24.42 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.43 | subdue | ah |
| 21:26.22 | CIA-4 | 03pb 07 * r1.3513 10openembedded/packages/glibc/glibc_cvs.bb: bash glibc_cvs around a bit |
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| 21:30.26 | jjg_ | i believe I have everything configured correctly and am now getting this : ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf |
| 21:30.30 | jjg_ | any idears? |
| 21:30.53 | zecke|hack | jjg_: BBPATH |
| 21:30.55 | koen | check BBPATH and BBFILES |
| 21:31.05 | jjg_ | oh yah, forgot to source my .bashrc |
| 21:31.20 | jjg_ | that wasn't it |
| 21:31.34 | zecke|hack | BBPATH not set correctly |
| 21:31.45 | jjg_ | ok |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-4 | 03reenoo 07 * r1.3499.11.1 10openembedded/packages/kaffe/ (kaffe-gtk_cvs.bb kaffe-gtk_1.1.5.bb kaffe.inc): |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-4 | kaffe: |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.18 | jjg_ | do i need to export BBFILES var even though it is in local.conf? |
| 21:40.29 | kergoth | nope. you dont need to set that in your environment |
| 21:40.49 | jjg_ | i don't need to create bitbake.conf right? |
| 21:40.55 | jjg_ | because my path is correct |
| 21:41.10 | kergoth | paste your BBPATH here. |
| 21:41.28 | jjg_ | /home/sisa/oe/build:/home/sisa/oe/openembedded |
| 21:41.38 | jjg_ | [sisa@SDR-2 .bk]$ echo $BBPATH |
| 21:41.38 | jjg_ | /home/sisa/oe/build:/home/sisa/oe/openembedded |
| 21:41.41 | kergoth | and /home/sisa/oe/openembedded/conf/bitbake.conf exists? |
| 21:41.46 | jjg_ | no! |
| 21:41.47 | kergoth | and BBPATH isnt just set, its _exported_? |
| 21:41.52 | kergoth | eh? |
| 21:41.52 | jjg_ | it is exported |
| 21:42.02 | kergoth | conf/bitbake.conf is in the oe tree. |
| 21:42.02 | jjg_ | yah, i didn't see anything bout creating that file |
| 21:42.18 | koen | ehm |
| 21:42.20 | koen | it's in the repo |
| 21:42.21 | ascent | doh :) |
| 21:42.32 | koen | if you downloaded the repo, the file should be there |
| 21:42.36 | jjg_ | i see it |
| 21:42.37 | jjg_ | :) |
| 21:42.38 | kergoth | if you have the file and bitbake still cant find it, try doing a rm -rf tmp/cache. |
| 21:42.41 | jjg_ | i was thinking build/conf/bitbake.conf |
| 21:43.30 | ascent | thats local.conf :) |
| 21:43.50 | jjg_ | yah, i square on that now. Now just to figure why this thing is bleating about bitbake.conf |
| 21:44.21 | jjg_ | [sisa@SDR-2 conf]$ ls -l |
| 21:44.21 | jjg_ | total 72 |
| 21:44.21 | jjg_ | -r--r--r-- 1 sisa sisa 14756 Jun 9 07:24 bitbake.conf |
| 21:44.22 | kergoth | once again, if bitbake cant find it, and BBPATH is correct, exported, and the file exists, try wiping the cache. |
| 21:44.32 | jjg_ | kergoth, sry...do that now |
| 21:44.48 | jjg_ | which should be in build dir, no? |
| 21:45.00 | kergoth | it shuld be in the directory you're running bitbake in |
| 21:45.04 | kergoth | which _should_ be build/, yes |
| 21:45.12 | jjg_ | tmp isn't yet created |
| 21:51.30 | Pigi | time to sleep |
| 21:51.54 | Pigi | nite all |
| 21:52.02 | reenoo_ | 'night Pigi |
| 21:52.14 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:00.06 | jjg_ | should i have a bitbake.conf in ~/oe/bitbake/conf/bitbake.con and ~/oe/openembedded/conf/bitbake.conf? |
| 22:01.27 | jjg_ | kergoth, any ideas on how to make bitbake happy? |
| 22:02.39 | jh_ | jjg_: i had to copy bitbake.conf from bitbake/conf to openembedded/conf |
| 22:02.54 | jh_ | not sure when/if that changed but once i did that it was alright |
| 22:04.16 | jjg_ | jh_, i think that did it |
| 22:04.19 | jjg_ | strange |
| 22:04.21 | jjg_ | a bug? |
| 22:05.05 | CosmicPenguin | more likely either your bitbake or OE trees wern't up to date |
| 22:05.47 | jjg_ | CosmicPenguin, interesting. I just got the repo with svn and bk from the website. |
| 22:05.58 | jjg_ | now it says this : ERROR: no files to build. |
| 22:06.12 | jjg_ | ERROR: Nothing provides gpe-image |
| 22:08.49 | ascent | did you set BBFILES correctly in local.conf ? |
| 22:09.26 | jjg_ | ascent, BBFILES := "/home/sisa/oe/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 22:09.52 | jjg_ | i'm going cross eyed from staring so hard at it...it's right though |
| 22:09.56 | kergoth | copying bitbake.conf from bitbake to oe is NOT going to work. |
| 22:10.01 | kergoth | at all. |
| 22:10.03 | jjg_ | kergoth, oops |
| 22:10.07 | jjg_ | well, it didn't complain this time |
| 22:10.19 | kergoth | yes, but it isnt going to _do_ anything. |
| 22:10.25 | jjg_ | so i need to back up and repull the repo |
| 22:10.25 | jjg_ | ok |
| 22:10.33 | kergoth | that bitbake.conf doesnt contain most of the variables that are necessary |
| 22:10.35 | kergoth | its minimal |
| 22:10.48 | jjg_ | i'm pulling the repo again |
| 22:11.00 | jjg_ | 3rd time's a charm ? :) |
| 22:13.28 | jjg_ | have to say that oe looks like it is gonna be the bomb |
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| 22:19.44 | jjg_ | kergoth, 3 times *is* a charm :) |
| 22:19.51 | jjg_ | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (0211/2417) [ 8 %] |
| 22:20.07 | jjg_ | 1% inspiration 99% perspiration |
| 22:21.43 | jjg_ | kergoth, aren't you going to pat me on my newbie head? |
| 22:22.07 | kergoth | heh, congrats :) |
| 22:22.19 | jjg_ | awe, tanks onnare |
| 22:22.48 | jjg_ | i've been using familiar for a couple of years and have always wanted to build my own distro |
| 22:22.51 | jjg_ | now...WAM |
| 22:27.03 | treke | ~lart kergoth for talking to the newbie instead of testing scms |
| 22:27.11 | jjg_ | kergoth, a bug was introduced between 0.8.1 and 0.8.2 wlan driver for H5550 ... how does this relate to the source code that oe is pulling? |
| 22:27.38 | jjg_ | meaning is the bug going to be in the code that i'm pulling? |
| 22:27.56 | jjg_ | treke, please don't whack him, he's been very nice to help me out. |
| 22:28.09 | jjg_ | btw, newbs make the world go round |
| 22:30.08 | treke | ~lart kergoth to spite jjg |
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| 22:30.28 | jjg_ | awe man |
| 22:31.15 | jjg_ | ~lart treke |
| 22:31.15 | jjg_ | heh |
| 22:31.19 | jjg_ | awe man |
| 22:31.28 | jjg_ | whoa |
| 22:32.44 | jjg_ | bitbake gpe-image just failed with this : incorrect classpath: /usr/share/java/libgcj-3.4.2.jar |
| 22:32.44 | jjg_ | | ---------- |
| 22:32.44 | jjg_ | | 1. ERROR in /home/sisa/oe/build/tmp/work/gettext-native-0.14.1-r3/gettext-0.14 .1/gettext-runtime/intl-java/gnu/gettext/GettextResource.java (at line 1) |
| 22:34.04 | jjg_ | treke, wanna help the newb now? |
| 22:34.14 | jjg_ | why is bitbake complaining about java? |
| 22:34.24 | jjg_ | no, I don't have the file it was looking for |
| 22:36.52 | jjg_ | atleast in that directory |
| 22:37.00 | jjg_ | anyone running bitbake on fc3? |
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| 22:39.13 | jjg_ | it's looking for an older java lib |
| 22:43.20 | CIA-4 | 03pb 07 * r1.3513.1.1 10openembedded/ (3 files in 3 dirs): new and updated jlime files, per bug #39 |
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| 22:52.13 | RP | pb_: Does http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/preempt_softfloat-r0.patch look sane to you? |
| 22:56.36 | CIA-4 | 03reenoo 07 * r1.3514.1.1 10openembedded/packages/unzip/unzip_552.bb: unzip: use oe_runmake rather than make so that CC is set properly etc. install man pages to ${D}${mandir}. Fixes bug #45. |
| 22:58.21 | jjg_ | pb_, what makes you think that exactly? because this is a brandnew fc3 install from yesterday and then I ran up2date. |
| 22:59.49 | pb_ | RP: yeah, looks okay. You should probably check that it doesn't cause any regressions in the glibc math testsuite. |
| 23:00.43 | pb_ | jjg_: because it seems unlikely that anything in OE would be looking for files in /usr/share/java of its own accord. |
| 23:01.12 | RP | pb_: That may be tricky given my machines are all currently softfloat... |
| 23:01.56 | jjg_ | pb_, ok |
| 23:02.24 | pb_ | RP: that is unfortunate. |
| 23:02.29 | reenoo_ | pb_: thanks for figuring out the reason to the unzip breakage. that should make a few java users pretty happy (to extract .jar files) |
| 23:04.08 | pb_ | reenoo_: ah, right. don't you use fastjar or something for that? |
| 23:04.42 | pb_ | fixing unzip should be pretty trivial, anyway. I haven't actually looked at the makefile yet, but I imagine it just needs a small tweak. |
| 23:05.08 | zecke|hack | my pty code works... |
| 23:05.16 | pb_ | very good |
| 23:05.17 | zecke|hack | but I think my fd is not bidirectional... |
| 23:05.31 | reenoo_ | pb_: well.. it was trivial (see last cset) |
| 23:05.48 | pb_ | oh, heh |
| 23:05.50 | zecke|hack | reenoo_: the same might apply for automount? |
| 23:05.51 | pb_ | I didn't notice that. |
| 23:06.05 | pb_ | reenoo_: very good |
| 23:06.06 | reenoo_ | zecke|hack: dunno. maybe |
| 23:07.13 | pb_ | later all |
| 23:07.20 | reenoo_ | 'night pb_ |
| 23:07.20 | zecke|hack | pb_: cya |
| 23:07.26 | zecke|hack | Tomorrow will be fun |
| 23:07.26 | RP | 'night pb_ |
| 23:07.41 | zecke|hack | 1.) dentist 2.) Chaos Computer Club camp |
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| 23:11.30 | reenoo_ | zecke|hack: actually, no, the autofs .bb inherits autotools which has a proper do_compile() |
| 23:11.53 | reenoo_ | zecke|hack: must be a problem with the makefiles |
| 23:12.22 | jjg_ | anyone using fc3? |
| 23:13.21 | zecke|hack | :} |
| 23:18.21 | jjg_ | anyone using *any* fedora version for oe? |
| 23:26.30 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 23:27.23 | jjg_ | should i send an email to anyone saying that building gettext on fc3 is broken? |
| 23:32.15 | RP | 'night all |
| 23:46.03 | jjg_ | ok, turns out that in fc3.../usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/javac which is a bash script with a lib hardcoded !!!! |
| 23:58.08 | [g2] | pb_ RP thx for the ARM asm help earlier today |
| 23:58.58 | [g2] | The tiny LED program runs from Redboot and tomorrow (later today) it'll get tested with loading directly into the mini i cache on the IXP420 |
| 23:59.16 | [g2] | propably when ep1220 wake up :) |
