| 00:03.19 | tpdd | so if i follow the getting started docs and build a gpe-image, will that create the most current image, or is there a more current cvs location than the one mentioned in the getting started docs? |
| 00:05.16 | zecke | tpdd: that depends on your DISTRIBUTION |
| 00:06.52 | zecke | wtf, why do I get punished for answering questions |
| 00:07.18 | zecke | I think 11 open windows is enough, no reason to create the 12th one just for you |
| 00:07.52 | zecke | tpdd: what was your question? I didn't even dare to read it in the query |
| 00:09.19 | tpdd | zecke: I was wondering if using openzaurus-3.5.4 as DISTRIBUTION will give me the most current image for tosa |
| 00:09.46 | zecke | no it hase a CVSDATE from last month set |
| 00:09.52 | w3rwolf | wtf is this whole poodle/sheeperd/collie distribution about? |
| 00:10.03 | kergoth | w3rwolf: thats the machine, not the distribution. |
| 00:10.07 | kergoth | ~poodle |
| 00:10.10 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog |
| 00:10.13 | kergoth | ~collie |
| 00:10.15 | ibot | somebody said collie was sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 00:10.17 | kergoth | ~shepherd |
| 00:10.18 | ibot | it has been said that shepherd is a Sharp Zaurus SL-C750, or a dog. |
| 00:10.28 | w3rwolf | thx :D |
| 00:10.30 | kergoth | that's sharp's internal naming for those machine types |
| 00:10.31 | kergoth | np |
| 00:10.34 | zecke | tpdd: grep for CVSDATE in openzaurus-3.5.4.conf (openembedded/conf) |
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| 01:04.10 | Luke-Jr | Simon Pickering <S.G.Pickering@bath.ac.uk> <-- who is that on IRC? |
| 01:04.37 | Luke-Jr | tpdd: DISTRO = "openzaurus" will get latest stuff |
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| 01:29.16 | aboeglin | Err, I have a problem trying to enforce the cvs version of handhelds-pxa-2.6 : "preferred version handhelds-pxa-2.6-2.6.10-hh0+cvs20050604-r0 of handhelds-pxa-2.6 not available" although it is exactly what bbread gives me ... |
| 01:30.18 | aboeglin | Okay, i'm stupid... I have to remove the package name from the version. |
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| 01:41.07 | aboeglin | No, still not good ... |
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| 02:15.49 | france | ola |
| 02:15.50 | france | kergoth: hi |
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| 03:03.36 | keturn | are bashisms acceptable in .bb files? |
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| 04:12.18 | tpdd | so is the 2.6 kernel working well with zaurus-6000 ? or is 2.4 the only way to go. |
| 04:14.18 | Luke-Jr | tpdd: http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/ |
| 04:17.44 | tpdd | Luke-Jr: cool thanks man. |
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| 05:51.14 | koen | good morning all |
| 05:51.14 | jasony | good morning/night |
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| 08:51.37 | RP | morning all |
| 08:51.57 | koen | good morning RP |
| 08:52.41 | RP | I guess I should pay some attention to the c7x0 this weekend :) |
| 08:53.07 | koen | has it gathered a huge pile of dust? |
| 08:53.37 | RP | I'm using it for reading books but the kernel work has slipped back a bit :) |
| 08:53.51 | ljp | reading?!?! |
| 08:54.07 | RP | The 770 isn't going to do much until I can get working wifi on it... |
| 08:54.46 | RP | books are far too last century ;-) |
| 08:55.00 | RP | (paper ones that is) |
| 08:55.18 | koen | RP: you could install your own image on the N |
| 08:56.06 | koen | RP: http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Various-Devices&id=port_24090 |
| 08:56.17 | koen | that's a complete OE image |
| 08:56.54 | RP | koen: nice work. How much of the device's functionality is supported? |
| 08:57.12 | koen | it uses the stock kernel + initrd |
| 08:57.24 | koen | so the hardware should work |
| 08:57.30 | RP | working wifi? :) |
| 08:58.02 | koen | I think florian used wifi to scap it, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 08:58.27 | koen | RP: could you extract a dmesg and/or bootlog from the 770 and mail it to me? |
| 08:58.54 | RP | koen: No, because I have no way of connecting to the thing :-( |
| 08:59.03 | koen | not even usbnet? |
| 08:59.09 | RP | Tat's why I need wifi so much... |
| 08:59.20 | RP | It didn't seem to want to do usbnet last time I tried |
| 08:59.26 | RP | I'll give that a go again though |
| 09:00.09 | RP | I think it just shares the contents of the rsmmc card as standard |
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| 09:01.39 | koen | does anybody know a tool to view .sxi slides in osX? |
| 09:02.04 | koen | and no, OOo doesn't work on osX |
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| 09:46.43 | koen | RP: is http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqHx2000 up to date? |
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| 10:00.46 | koen | good morning pb_ |
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| 10:12.08 | RP | koen: Mostly. I need to update some of the gpios |
| 10:13.21 | RP | koen: Unless there's something I've missed? |
| 10:20.53 | pb_ | koen: good morning |
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| 10:23.18 | koen | RP: the wiki mentiones something about "complete unknown" and cf |
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| 10:24.16 | RP | koen: I suppose I could put my guesses down :) |
| 10:30.02 | Mardy | is there some way to see what bitbake is trying to do in the "do_fetch" stage? Apparently fetching of "quilt-native-037" succeeds, but in fact it doesn't fetch anything |
| 10:31.14 | woglinde | mardy did you look at the stamps-directory maybe fetch ist already done |
| 10:33.51 | Mardy | woglinde: it's strange, there is no "stamps" directory: just "cache" and "work" |
| 10:34.12 | woglinde | mardy strange |
| 10:36.52 | aboeglin | Err, how do I specify a defconfig image for the kernel ? |
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| 10:41.08 | Mardy | aboeglin: I think it's specified in the machines conf files |
| 10:41.42 | Mardy | aboeglin: but I shouldn't need to change them, just set the right value for the MACHINE var in your local.conf |
| 10:43.55 | aboeglin | Actually, I'm trying to build handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs for hx4700 ... I guess I have to modify the do_configure a little |
| 10:46.09 | koen | aboeglin: check packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/* |
| 10:46.24 | RP | koen: I've updated bits of it including the gpios. Let me know if I've missed anything |
| 10:47.31 | koen | RP: thanks |
| 10:49.38 | RP | koen: I've been taken off the hx2750 for a while... |
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| 11:20.12 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 11:26.46 | RP | hi CoreDump|home |
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| 11:29.15 | reenoo_ | afternoon |
| 11:29.17 | koen | reenoo_: I'm trying to add rxtx to OE, any advice on that? It fails on a missing classpath |
| 11:31.45 | reenoo_ | umm.. what's rxtx? |
| 11:32.13 | koen | http://rxtx.org/ |
| 11:32.27 | koen | a serial stack for java using native stuff |
| 11:34.29 | koen | reenoo_: is there a non-hackish way of exposing a classpath to an OE build? |
| 11:34.30 | reenoo_ | ah, right. I guess you could start with staging gnu classpath |
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| 11:56.14 | aboeglin | Err, how long does it takes to build a gpe-image ? (I'm on a 1.3 GHz Celeron M) |
| 11:56.25 | woglinde | hm 3 hours |
| 11:56.35 | woglinde | maybee 4 |
| 11:56.43 | aboeglin | ok, thanks |
| 11:57.51 | koen | aboeglin: from scratch? |
| 12:01.00 | aboeglin | yes |
| 12:01.17 | aboeglin | I just passed the kernel step |
| 12:01.32 | koen | ah,3 or 4 hours after that |
| 12:01.39 | koen | depending on the speed of your disc |
| 12:02.20 | aboeglin | Ah ... I'm using a laptop, so it will be a little more, then. |
| 12:03.35 | w3rwolf | *yawn* morning guys! |
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| 12:11.35 | reenoo_ | <CIA> gnutls: export asn1_* functions from libgnutls.so. fixes bug #57. |
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| 12:17.40 | reenoo_ | <CIA> sylpheed: actually enable gnutls. remove gpgme from DEPENDS for now since it's not enabled and doesn't work either ATM. |
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| 12:18.03 | koen | CIA-4: ping |
| 12:21.42 | koen | any news on the SCM front? |
| 12:27.44 | pb_ | reenoo_: be careful, sylpheed's configure script needs some m4 macros from gpgme, irrespective of whether it's configured in or not. |
| 12:27.55 | pb_ | if you want to build without gpgme on hand at all, you will have to patch the configure.ac to remove those references. |
| 12:28.25 | reenoo_ | oh |
| 12:29.31 | pb_ | later all |
| 12:29.38 | reenoo_ | later pb_ |
| 12:30.03 | zecke | ~users |
| 12:30.05 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 12:30.43 | koen | hey zecke |
| 12:31.02 | zecke | koen: hey |
| 12:31.47 | zecke | <lazy>How to do create a cset wwhen using citool is not possible?</lazy> |
| 12:32.06 | koen | bk ci -y"comment" file |
| 12:32.09 | koen | bk commit |
| 12:32.17 | koen | bk push |
| 12:33.14 | koen | bk ci can take multiple files too |
| 12:35.20 | zecke | damn... I messed up |
| 12:35.29 | reenoo_ | <CIA> sylpheed: some gpgme m4 macros are necessary at configure time. thanks to pb_ for pointing this out. |
| 12:35.49 | reenoo_ | pb_: fixed |
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| 15:00.22 | reenoo_ | <CIA> kaffe: |
| 15:00.22 | reenoo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.22 | reenoo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:35.14 | Crofton_|laptop | kergoth, any closer to figuring out what you want to be when you grow up? |
| 15:36.37 | kergoth | not really |
| 15:36.52 | Crofton_|laptop | me neither :) |
| 15:37.01 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 15:37.22 | Crofton_|laptop | but at least I can trickle money out the school for doing fun stuff for a while |
| 15:37.41 | kergoth | nod |
| 15:38.05 | Crofton_|laptop | of course if I were to get a real jbo doing what I am doing now, much more $$ |
| 15:38.23 | koen | Crofton_|laptop: and much more crap from the bossperson |
| 15:38.25 | Crofton_|laptop | and more hassles |
| 15:38.28 | Crofton_|laptop | yep |
| 15:39.04 | Crofton_|laptop | unless i was the boss! |
| 15:39.16 | Crofton_|laptop | in which case I would be my own worst enemy |
| 15:41.52 | koen | you could give yourself a raise |
| 15:41.58 | Crofton_|laptop | True |
| 15:43.22 | Crofton_|laptop | should I put patches in bugzilla now? I'm going to have some fixes for some stuff in a few days |
| 15:44.26 | koen | you can always put patches in bugzilla |
| 15:44.50 | Crofton_|laptop | OK, my omni* bb files have some hassles I need to fix |
| 15:45.52 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 16:00.00 | zecke | hey kergoth |
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| 16:49.20 | Crofton_|laptop | do you need a do_stage methd, to put libs etc in STAGINGDIR? |
| 16:49.55 | koen | yes |
| 16:51.09 | CoreDump|home | can anyone tell me why poodles ipkg.conf doesn't have "dests" for /media/card, /media/cf and /home/? |
| 16:51.19 | CoreDump|home | is that intentional? |
| 16:53.12 | koen | probably an oversight |
| 16:53.29 | CoreDump|home | though so |
| 16:53.36 | koen | isn't that <dest>/packages ? |
| 16:53.40 | CoreDump|home | yep |
| 16:56.12 | CoreDump|home | ~beagle |
| 16:56.13 | ibot | methinks beagle is the MasterIA PA-100, an SA1110 based PDA. See http://www.montavista.co.jp/partners/development_tools/master_ia.html, or a dog |
| 16:56.35 | miraage | who is the maintainer for snes9x? is there one? the package maintainer listed is the oe team. the latest snes9x is not rendering anything |
| 16:58.58 | CoreDump|home | hmmm dests on tosa still point to /mnt, not /media. /me fixes that, too |
| 17:03.10 | CoreDump|home | ~spitz |
| 17:03.11 | ibot | from memory, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
| 17:03.19 | koen | ~akita |
| 17:03.20 | ibot | from memory, akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 17:03.31 | koen | ~coredump |
| 17:03.32 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, coredump is the guy who maintains the unofficial OZ3.3.6-pre1 / Opie 1.1.x ROMs at http://www.hentges.net |
| 17:03.49 | koen | finally, something that's not a dog :) |
| 17:03.49 | CoreDump|home | koen: heh 3.3.6 |
| 17:04.00 | CoreDump|home | ~koen |
| 17:04.01 | ibot | hmm... koen is our regular image monkey |
| 17:04.06 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 17:04.35 | [cc]smart | I would like to make a suggestion to the person giving us the ntp package. You might add these two lines to ntp.conf, to activate local clock as a fallback for system time: |
| 17:04.35 | [cc]smart | server 127.127.1.0 |
| 17:04.36 | [cc]smart | fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 14 |
| 17:04.51 | CoreDump|home | ibot: no, coredump is the guy who maintains the hentges ROMs @ www.hentges.net |
| 17:04.52 | ibot | CoreDump|home: okay |
| 17:05.08 | koen | 127.127 ? |
| 17:05.27 | reenoo_work | CoreDump|home: I'm fairly sure those aren't ROMs |
| 17:05.28 | [cc]smart | it's a symbolic IP address to stick to the same format |
| 17:05.47 | pb_ | reenoo_work: not you as well! |
| 17:05.50 | [cc]smart | do not interpret it as an IP actually. |
| 17:05.59 | reenoo_work | pb_: :) |
| 17:06.00 | [cc]smart | it means: use the local clock. |
| 17:06.12 | reenoo_work | pb_: sorry, couldn't resist ;) |
| 17:06.17 | koen | EXTRA_IMG_CMD_openzaurus = " -ro" |
| 17:06.19 | CoreDump|home | reenoo_work: they can work as true "ROMs" when you boot off of SD or CF :) |
| 17:06.20 | koen | there |
| 17:06.33 | CoreDump|home | ibot: no, coredump is the guy who maintains the hentges distribution @ www.hentges.net |
| 17:06.34 | ibot | okay, CoreDump|home |
| 17:06.40 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 17:08.02 | CoreDump|home | s/ROM/firmware maybe. Should get the point across to newbies |
| 17:10.08 | reenoo_work | <CIA> kaffe (kaffeh-native): add --without-gmp to EXTRA_OECONF to avoid relying on a native gmp. |
| 17:10.39 | koen | ROM -> image |
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| 17:10.53 | CoreDump|home | looks like all Z fstabs got updated to mount a tmpfs at /media/ram. should we allow users to install stuff there? AFAIK only collie has a "real" not-so-volatile ramdisk, right? IMO ipkg dests for /media/ram should be removed on these devices. |
| 17:12.34 | koen | CoreDump|home: email oe@ |
| 17:12.53 | CoreDump|home | hmm will do |
| 17:23.15 | CoreDump|home | <CIA> CoreDump 1.3498 ipkg.conf (tosa): s/mnt/media |
| 17:23.34 | CoreDump|home | <CIA> CoreDump 1.3497 Add propper ipkg destinations for poodle |
| 17:43.22 | france | hi |
| 17:43.37 | koen | hey france |
| 17:43.38 | france | does anybody know who is maintaining the old wiki for OE? |
| 17:43.44 | france | koen: hi |
| 17:43.54 | koen | I'm pretty sure that's "no one" |
| 17:43.56 | france | it is being filled with spam |
| 17:44.19 | france | form links to porn to every prescription drug, I ever heard of. |
| 17:47.30 | keturn | yeah, old wiki is unmaintained, that's part of what makes it an "old wiki" |
| 17:47.47 | keturn | and if it's getting spammed it should probably be kicked into read-only mode or taken offline |
| 17:47.49 | zecke | france: lol |
| 17:48.18 | miraage | is there a nice simple frontend to madplay? |
| 17:49.11 | france | keturn: it is usless in readonly mode, as most of the pages have been cleared off by the spammers. |
| 17:49.29 | france | keturn: the pages would need to be reverted to a previous version to be useful. |
| 17:50.27 | france | keturn: the good pages are now several layers deep, as spammers have squashed the pages of other spammers. |
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| 17:52.16 | DarkMan| | hi |
| 17:54.37 | reenoo_work | <CIA> kaffe (kaffeh-native): add --enable-pure-java-math to really get rid of gmp as a native dependency. |
| 17:56.31 | miraage | whoa... when i boot, the GPE logo is shown, and then half of it gets cut off, the machine dies and the half that remains slowly deteriorates on screen |
| 17:56.55 | miraage | any idea what might be going on? i think something's wrong with the hardware |
| 17:57.09 | DarkMan| | I have followed the OpenEmbedded GettingStarted Wiki page and when I try to bitbake something I get a patch error: 6 chunks of 7 failed at package gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050331-r3 |
| 17:58.00 | DarkMan| | i want to start develop something for gpe but i'm stuck at the very first step... |
| 17:59.04 | zecke | DarkMan|: looks like a too old CVSDATE |
| 17:59.15 | DarkMan| | ok, i'll check that |
| 17:59.15 | DarkMan| | thx |
| 17:59.38 | miraage | hrm |
| 17:59.50 | zecke | CVSDATE_gnu-config-native = "20050602" should do |
| 18:00.16 | koen | just don't set a global cvsdate |
| 18:02.32 | miraage | has anyone seen the symptoms i have described? |
| 18:02.38 | DarkMan| | CVSDATE is set at familiar-0.8.2.conf to 20050331 |
| 18:02.46 | DarkMan| | so I don't touch that, right? |
| 18:03.07 | zecke | in your conf/local.conf you just change the date for one package |
| 18:03.12 | DarkMan| | ok |
| 18:03.13 | koen | zecke: no |
| 18:03.21 | zecke | koen: what no? |
| 18:03.23 | koen | don't try to build old distros with a new repo |
| 18:03.27 | miraage | i have a feeling something's wrong with the flash... |
| 18:03.39 | koen | miraage: topic, 3rd item |
| 18:03.40 | zecke | koen: that is a different issue |
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| 18:03.56 | koen | zecke: that's the real problem, gnuconfig is only a symptom |
| 18:03.56 | zecke | DarkMan|: either check out openembedded with the familiar-0.8.2 tag |
| 18:04.11 | zecke | DarkMan|: or use familiar-0.9 |
| 18:04.23 | koen | 0.9.0 even :) |
| 18:04.29 | DarkMan| | ok |
| 18:04.42 | DarkMan| | the packages will be library compatible to familiar-0.8.2? |
| 18:05.04 | koen | depends on the library |
| 18:05.09 | koen | but generally, no |
| 18:05.40 | DarkMan| | i have too little flashs space in my 3630 to install duplicate libraries... |
| 18:06.30 | DarkMan| | so I need to build a full familiar-0.9 to have all packages linked with the same libraries? |
| 18:07.08 | koen | that or check out an OE tree with the familiar-0.8.2 tag |
| 18:07.27 | DarkMan| | ok thanks |
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| 18:14.45 | keturn | chanserv: fine, be that way. |
| 18:16.27 | koen | zecke: you said something about the ;md5=<sum> last night, did you say it was possible, or that you implemented it? |
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| 18:24.14 | zecke | koen: possible |
| 18:24.31 | zecke | koen: if you start adding one ;md5=<sum> |
| 18:24.37 | zecke | koen: I'll immediately implement it |
| 18:25.20 | koen | yes, and a 'e' :) |
| 18:25.31 | koen | Albert Heijn |
| 18:25.36 | zecke | lol |
| 18:25.37 | koen | My ex-employer :) |
| 18:26.00 | zecke | Koen working at Alber Heijn in venlo ;) |
| 18:26.11 | koen | heh |
| 18:27.24 | koen | I see a problem |
| 18:27.26 | koen | .incs |
| 18:27.39 | zecke | koen: right |
| 18:27.49 | zecke | koen: new key? |
| 18:28.18 | zecke | MD5_SUM_foobar = "abc" |
| 18:28.36 | koen | hwo does that handle multiple sources? |
| 18:29.03 | zecke | koen: using overides |
| 18:29.13 | zecke | MD5_SUM_foobar.tar.bz2 = "abc" |
| 18:29.21 | zecke | (not sure the dots are allowed) |
| 18:29.31 | zecke | MD5_SUM_gruft.tar = "bce" |
| 18:30.06 | koen | can we enumerate SRC_URI 'members'? |
| 18:31.11 | zecke | koen|tv: no not too good |
| 18:31.21 | zecke | koen|tv: fetch.py does it though |
| 18:31.53 | koen|tv | we could only do the first item |
| 18:31.59 | koen|tv | MD5="33425234" |
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| 18:36.28 | zecke | koen|tv: also with inc one could do SRC_URI = "http://foo.foo.foo;md5sum=${SUM_1}" |
| 18:45.35 | koen|tv | zecke: yes, but if you abstract the SRC_URI that falls apart |
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| 18:46.28 | zecke | koen|tv: in the file your including the 'base' you'Ve to specifiy SUM_1 |
| 18:46.39 | zecke | not too nice though |
| 18:52.26 | DarkMan| | me again... I checkout a tree for familiar-0.8.2 and now the patching works, but it tries to decompress quilt-native-0.39 without downloading, and it stops. The strange thing is that before shows: NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39-r0: task do_fetch: completed |
| 18:52.50 | DarkMan| | but the tar.gz isn't in my sources dir |
| 18:53.27 | zecke | DarkMan|: hmm |
| 18:53.48 | zecke | DarkMan|: wipe your tmp directory |
| 18:56.46 | aboeglin | DarkMan|: maybe removing tmp/stamps/quilt* will help |
| 18:57.37 | DarkMan| | removed full tmp and trying again... |
| 19:04.14 | keturn | samba distributes source tarballs by bittorrent now. could add a fetch method for that. as they point out, it'd be a good idea to check the signature, though. |
| 19:04.53 | DarkMan| | I get the same error removing tmp directory |
| 19:05.18 | DarkMan| | where stores bitbake the information for downloaded sources? |
| 19:07.27 | koen|tv | DarkMan|: in the DL_DIR |
| 19:08.15 | DarkMan| | not the tarballs, i mean, if saves somewhere what packages has downloaded before |
| 19:11.48 | zecke|tel | DarkMan|: which version of bitbake do you've |
| 19:11.54 | zecke|tel | DarkMan|: how does your BBPATH look? |
| 19:16.30 | DarkMan| | bitbake version... the one retrieved with "svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake" not installed but added to path, and BBPATH="/home/darkman/ipaq/familiar/build:/home/darkman/ipaq/familiar/openembedded" |
| 19:26.10 | DarkMan| | starting setup all over... |
| 19:26.47 | zecke | DarkMan|: bitbake -v |
| 19:27.03 | DarkMan| | verbose? |
| 19:27.21 | DarkMan| | or you mean --version |
| 19:28.13 | zecke | DarkMan| version :} |
| 19:28.39 | DarkMan| | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.0, bitbake version 1.3.1 |
| 19:30.08 | zecke | hmm looks good as well |
| 19:30.11 | koen|tv | zecke: so ;md5=<sum> for single.bbs and ;md5=${SUM1} + SUM1 = "<sum>" for includers + includees |
| 19:30.47 | zecke | koen|tv: why the ${S}+S1= "<sum>" |
| 19:31.06 | koen|tv | the first goes in the inc, the second in the .bb |
| 19:31.35 | zecke | alternatively we could use overrides |
| 19:31.42 | zecke | MD5_SUM_filename = "SUM" |
| 19:32.30 | koen|tv | that would solve both situations |
| 19:32.47 | zecke | koen|tv: I don't know how filename would like ;) |
| 19:33.19 | koen|tv | MD5_SUM_qt-embedded-${PV}-free.tar.gz = "1f7ad30113afc500cab7f5b2f4dec0d7" |
| 19:34.01 | zecke | koen|tv: I don't know fi we can have '.' there but probably we can |
| 19:34.38 | zecke | OT: www.rockpalast.de/livestream |
| 19:35.17 | pb_ | yeah, I think "." is allowed in variable names. |
| 19:35.55 | zecke | would anyone veto a scp fetcher? |
| 19:36.41 | pb_ | no, I think an scp fetcher would be a fine idea |
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| 19:39.03 | DarkMan| | no way here... it downloads thcrut-1.2.5.tar.gz but not finds quilt_savannah.nongnu.org_VER_0_39_.tar.gz |
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| 19:41.46 | zecke | DarkMan|: ok someone on the ML has the same problem |
| 19:50.32 | DarkMan| | and has found any solution? |
| 19:51.56 | DarkMan| | can I see that message? the maillist archive is from oct-2004 |
| 20:02.42 | zecke | koen|tv: let us finalize on MD5_SUM |
| 20:18.51 | koen|tv | good plan |
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| 20:33.11 | hrw | hi |
| 20:34.06 | hrw | that md5 will look strange... first SRC_URI with list and then lines with MD5 for each entry? |
| 20:34.07 | koen|tv | hey hrw |
| 20:34.33 | zecke | hrw: proposals are welcome |
| 20:34.54 | zecke | the stupid thing is you need one MD5SUM for each downloaded file |
| 20:35.44 | hrw | SRC_URI="http://example.net/file.tar.bz2;md5=4273482742947239472394" |
| 20:36.22 | koen|tv | that was the plan, but that doesn't owrk with abstractes SRC_URI's |
| 20:36.33 | koen|tv | (.inc, bbclasses) |
| 20:37.49 | hrw | so maybe if there is no "md5" part in SRC_URI then use MD5SUM_file option? |
| 20:38.07 | koen|tv | that's what we've thought of so far |
| 20:38.58 | hrw | ok |
| 20:44.01 | reenoo_work | DarkMan|: could check gmane.org |
| 20:45.11 | keturn | hrm. I defined do_srec. It gets included in in the 'run.image_cmd.nnn' scripts. I said 'addtask srec after do_rootfs'. but I don't think anything is invoking do_srec. |
| 20:47.23 | reenoo_work | keturn: if you define do_srec you'll also want 'addtask do_srec ...' |
| 20:50.08 | keturn | that'd make some kind of sense, but everything I see in classes/ is defined with "do_" and the do_ is never included in the first arg to addtask |
| 20:51.06 | reenoo_work | heh, right. sorry |
| 20:51.21 | reenoo_work | ~lart inconsistencies |
| 20:52.03 | hrw | look into packages/kdepimpi/kdepimpi-base.inc - I have do_unstage() there |
| 20:55.09 | RP | Is there some command to reverse a patch file? |
| 20:55.19 | RP | Or some way to tell oe to applyu it reversed? |
| 20:55.35 | keturn | there's a reverse flag to 'patch', which might be -R |
| 20:56.25 | RP | That's not quite what I need... |
| 20:56.59 | hrw | kind of SRC_URI_append="file://my.patch;patch=1;reverse=1"? |
| 20:57.36 | RP | hrw: Yes, is that valid syntax? |
| 20:57.40 | hrw | RP: no |
| 20:58.00 | hrw | RP: but can be easily added I think.. we already have "pnum" |
| 20:58.39 | RP | I'll feed them in by hand for now. It would be a nice feature to add though |
| 20:59.06 | zecke | I'm amused |
| 20:59.15 | zecke | Oh bitbake uses so much memory |
| 20:59.26 | zecke | Oh the new bitbake does not work with stuff prior to cset... |
| 20:59.42 | pb_ | zecke: you're easily amused. |
| 20:59.50 | keturn | I guess flexibility is good and all, but, um, I'd hate to have patches like that in my codebase. Some patches get applied one way and others in reverse? Sux. |
| 21:00.24 | keturn | just in terms of keeping things readable and reducing surprises. |
| 21:00.44 | pb_ | yeah, it does seem a bit bogus to have reversed patches in the works. |
| 21:01.11 | pb_ | it doesn't seem that unreasonable to expect people to turn their patches the right way round before checking them in. |
| 21:01.13 | zecke | pb_: now that I care less ;) |
| 21:01.18 | zecke | pb_: I can be easily amused |
| 21:01.32 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:01.50 | RP | I'm just trying to test something and way to revert some changes in a patch. Its not going into oe... |
| 21:02.09 | RP | I just can't find an easy way to do this. quilt has no option to import a diff reversed :-/ |
| 21:02.24 | zecke | RP: luckily |
| 21:02.59 | RP | zecke: not really. How do I apply this reversed diff against my code base in any sane way... |
| 21:03.32 | zecke | RP: hmm do not apply the patch in the first place |
| 21:03.37 | RP | I'll just have to use patch which leaves me no way to generate a sane diff later... |
| 21:03.40 | zecke | RP: use overrides to apply |
| 21:04.15 | zecke | hrw: can I talk you into looking at HTML generation in your spare time? |
| 21:04.24 | RP | Its only a partial reversal I'm trying... |
| 21:04.59 | keturn | load the patch in emacs and hit M-R a lot, which will swap all the +s and -s around |
| 21:05.23 | RP | That's not the point :) |
| 21:06.23 | hrw | zecke: ok |
| 21:06.30 | pb_ | RP: I don't really understand what you're saying. What's the big deal about creating a patch that backs out the changes you are trying to revert? |
| 21:06.54 | zecke | hrw: I hope to finish bitdoc tonight (generating documentation out of documentation.conf) |
| 21:07.39 | koen|tv | zecke: with wikistyle autohighlighting? |
| 21:08.06 | RP | pb_: I just can't find an easy approach to make this particular opertation |
| 21:09.14 | koen|tv | zecke: I still haven't found an easy way for packages.openembedded.org |
| 21:09.29 | zecke | koen|tv: with crappy non conformant, vendor locked in, HTML |
| 21:09.40 | zecke | koen|tv: use bitbake to get the information ;) |
| 21:10.34 | koen|tv | p.oe.o should have unmodified info + parsed info |
| 21:11.11 | hrw | zecke: so you want it to create static pages for all recipes? |
| 21:11.14 | zecke | koen|tv: tinderbox data to see if the package built for the architecture |
| 21:11.31 | zecke | hrw: no describing the bbclasses (groups) and the keys |
| 21:11.54 | zecke | hrw: just some easy HTML generation, I just want you to take a look when I've checked it in |
| 21:13.12 | hrw | zecke: ok - can look into |
| 21:14.09 | hrw | OT - it looks like in some time I will have to learn lot about iptables or will switch all services to non-standard ports.. |
| 21:14.09 | emte | happydoc worked well for eariler versions .. |
| 21:22.30 | keturn | hrw: why is that? |
| 21:24.42 | hrw | keturn: my sshd allow to connect for one user only and is flooded by dictionary 'attacks' (which is reported by logcheck) |
| 21:25.51 | keturn | does the one user always come from the same IP? |
| 21:29.11 | hrw | keturn: it is one ip per attack and use usernames from dictionary. |
| 21:30.33 | keturn | I mean the valid user. If so it's pretty trivial to make a whitelist with iptables. but if you want to log in from whatever random cafe you happen to be at, iptables is less helpful. |
| 21:34.03 | hrw | I found whitelisting for that kind of 'attack' - will look does it works |
| 21:35.54 | keturn | ok, my problem with "addtask srec after do_rootfs" seemed to go away when I changed it to "addtask srec after do_rootfs before do_build" |
| 21:47.18 | keturn | What's the recommended thing for a task to do if some necessary variable isn't set? Fail silently? Fail with a warning? Throw an exception? Execute commands anyway and have them break horribly? |
| 21:47.39 | zecke | throw an Exception |
| 21:49.15 | keturn | how does that work in not-python? |
| 21:51.17 | keturn | I could wrap the not-python function in a python function just for the purpose of doing that, I suppose, but that hurts. |
| 21:55.19 | hrw | cu all |
| 21:55.45 | reenoo_work | 'night hrw|gone |
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| 22:37.12 | keturn | oops. Something I did is making do_rootfs get called twice. |
| 22:40.02 | zecke | keturn: hehe, when I wrote my test.bbclass I had the same problems |
| 22:40.20 | zecke | keturn: you miss some src_ in front of one of your tasks |
| 22:41.15 | keturn | huh? |
| 22:43.05 | zecke | srec_ |
| 22:43.20 | zecke | you've stuff like addtask foo after fetch |
| 22:43.29 | zecke | srec_do_foo() { |
| 22:43.30 | zecke | } |
| 22:43.43 | zecke | I had some weird issues when forgetting the srec_ prefix |
| 22:46.26 | keturn | blurrrr... |
| 22:46.55 | zecke | keturn: yes the bbclasses are pure vodoo |
| 22:48.30 | keturn | omg my eyes |
| 22:48.45 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:48.50 | zecke | wasn't me |
| 22:52.34 | zecke | some native english speaker around? |
| 22:54.06 | Twiun | err, not native, but close enough ;) |
| 22:55.23 | zecke | Twiun: could you review some abstract? |
| 22:55.23 | Twiun | zecke: fire away |
| 22:55.29 | Twiun | sure |
| 22:55.29 | zecke | just ~250 words |
| 22:57.31 | zecke | I've mailed drw for now |
| 22:58.22 | Twiun | 'k |
| 22:58.42 | zecke | Twiun: what is your email adress? |
| 22:58.50 | Twiun | zecke: steph AT tangency.co.uk |
| 23:04.11 | keturn | you can send to /me @ /me . net too. it'll give me something to read while I wait for the bb cache to reparse. |
| 23:05.08 | zecke | for that it is too bad |
| 23:08.31 | Twiun | err, can OOo open kword files? |
| 23:08.57 | zecke | hehe no it can not :} |
| 23:09.09 | Twiun | damn. |
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| 23:09.29 | Twiun | that's stupid. they should be able to open each others files ;) |
| 23:09.43 | Twiun | esp as they're both open source |
| 23:10.11 | zecke | Twiun: with OASIS this is the case |
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| 23:32.15 | keturn | nope, naming it srec_do_srec still has the double do_rootfs |
| 23:36.47 | keturn | can I get at the data dict from bbshell? |
| 23:43.18 | zecke | I've killed my collie |
| 23:43.25 | zecke | keturn: probably with expert mode |
| 23:52.56 | zecke | *puh* it boots again |
| 23:59.02 | reenoo_work | ~lart bad assumptions |