| 00:00.49 | treke | it looks like the block size is 128k |
| 00:00.56 | treke | if I'm remembering this right |
| 00:03.08 | Zero_Chaos | treke: does it truncate the image as well (with a command different than --pad=) maybe I'm over the size? |
| 00:03.43 | treke | not that I know of |
| 00:04.23 | treke | what size is it? |
| 00:05.26 | treke | bbimage is what creates the image |
| 00:06.29 | Zero_Chaos | I made this one yesterday as "bitbake opie-image" 14680064 May 30 05:01 opie-image-collie-20050530031722.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 00:07.00 | Zero_Chaos | and I made this one today as "bitbake zc-image" 14680064 May 31 19:55 opie-image-collie-20050531234344.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 00:07.18 | Zero_Chaos | looks like I'm being overridden perhaps? or truncated. |
| 00:08.45 | Zero_Chaos | treke: do you think I can make a ~/src/build/conf/machine/collie2.conf and change my localconf to use collie2? |
| 00:09.02 | Zero_Chaos | that might stop me from being overridden |
| 00:09.08 | treke | just edit collie.conf |
| 00:09.19 | treke | then fx it when you're done |
| 00:09.24 | Zero_Chaos | treke: won't that interfere with "bk pull"? |
| 00:09.35 | treke | you're going to be changing it back anyways |
| 00:09.40 | Zero_Chaos | true... |
| 00:09.47 | Zero_Chaos | treke: thanks |
| 00:10.10 | treke | without padding, it wont work, so once you figure out what's going on size wise, you'll need to repad |
| 00:12.09 | Zero_Chaos | treke: yeah, that's the idea, I want to include some more important things for me, while removing things I don't need and praying that there is enough room. |
| 00:12.12 | Zero_Chaos | 14680064 May 31 19:55 opie-image-collie-20050531234344.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 00:12.58 | treke | simple solution |
| 00:13.06 | treke | make your life a whole lot easier |
| 00:13.24 | treke | build an image with just a basic opie |
| 00:13.30 | treke | then install what you want |
| 00:13.36 | treke | then get a list of installed packages |
| 00:13.42 | treke | and create a new image bb |
| 00:13.58 | treke | no fighting with padding or anything |
| 00:14.04 | treke | you know it will all fit |
| 00:16.10 | Zero_Chaos | treke: if this doesn't work, I'll do that, good idea |
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| 00:18.43 | treke | cool |
| 00:19.06 | treke | anything to avoid rebuilding images :) |
| 00:19.09 | treke | slow and tedious |
| 00:19.50 | Zero_Chaos | true |
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| 01:59.00 | Luke-Jr | OpenZaurus had 3 different kernels for Cxx0 on GPE... how are they selected in OE? |
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| 02:06.39 | robert | it's a long time that there are no update in http://oesources.org/snapshots/ |
| 02:13.19 | Luke-Jr | robert: it's not being updated |
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| 03:48.14 | ggilbert | snapshots are no longer updated. you can use the open source tools to access the tree |
| 03:52.23 | robert | ggilbert: could you tell me how to do in detail? |
| 03:54.57 | ggilbert | no |
| 03:55.17 | ggilbert | I haven't a clue how you do it |
| 03:56.40 | ggilbert | just that the tools now exist |
| 03:56.48 | robert | bk? |
| 03:57.11 | ggilbert | bitmover.com has a link to the tool |
| 04:00.55 | Luke-Jr | the wiki has commands |
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| 04:41.54 | Zero_Chaos | can anyone explain what's up with bitbake, I think there is something wrong, but I'm not sure, it might be me. I try to bitbake opie-image and I get this traceback... |
| 04:42.02 | Zero_Chaos | anyone else have this problem? |
| 04:45.58 | jasony | Zero_Chaos: i didn't get this problem, but it failed on getting openzaurus-sa_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix |
| 04:46.43 | Zero_Chaos | I completely deleted my tmp and I tryed "bitbake opie-image" and got this: |
| 04:46.44 | Zero_Chaos | NOTE: package makedevs-1.0.0: completed |
| 04:46.44 | Zero_Chaos | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 04:46.44 | Zero_Chaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.44 | Zero_Chaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.51 | Zero_Chaos | and a lot more like that.... |
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| 05:43.36 | robert | i build glibc ,and get error: |
| 05:43.37 | robert | /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__dummy.o): In function `__dummy': |
| 05:43.38 | robert | | __dummy.o(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `__dummy' |
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| 07:49.27 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:49.54 | Hertog | mog'n |
| 07:51.26 | proti | morning |
| 07:52.21 | XorA | morning |
| 07:52.26 | Hertog | this can't be good, freshly baked gpe-image: Jan 1 00:03:50 c7x0 user.warn kernel: oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2 |
| 07:54.35 | robert | hey all |
| 07:55.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3461 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: remove uboot dep for the time being |
| 08:01.05 | proti | zecke: pkg_pn[pn] = [priorities[p]] + pkg_pn[pn] |
| 08:02.19 | proti | priorities[p] is already an array. What you add in the pkg_pn is an array, and you end up with [[a],[b]]. |
| 08:02.43 | proti | That is why you have to get pkg_pn[pn][0] further. |
| 08:03.52 | proti | If the goal is to resort the pkg_pn according to the bb priority, you have to pkg_pn[pn] = priorities[p] + pkg_pn[pn] and then access it like pkg_pn[pn]. |
| 08:22.57 | hrw|work | hello |
| 08:23.11 | proti | hello marcin |
| 08:23.13 | Hertog | g'day |
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| 08:24.25 | hrw|work | hi Paul |
| 08:25.27 | bluelightning | hi hrw|work |
| 08:25.28 | bluelightning | hey all |
| 08:37.25 | robert | hi all |
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| 08:40.01 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:40.49 | robert | i build glibc ,and get error: |
| 08:40.50 | robert | /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__dummy.o): In function `__dummy': |
| 08:40.52 | robert | | __dummy.o(.text+0x0): multiple definition of `__dummy' |
| 08:40.53 | robert | | /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__dummy.o)(.text+0x0): first defined here |
| 08:42.43 | hrw|work | robert: 2.95 gcc with which glibc? |
| 08:42.52 | hrw|work | hi ade|desk |
| 08:43.41 | robert | hrw|work:glibc-2.2.3 |
| 08:45.19 | robert | hrw|work:glibc-2.2.3 and glibc-linuxthreads-2.2.3 |
| 08:46.31 | hrw|work | that problem is beyond my knowledge.. |
| 08:46.47 | robert | hrw|work: :( |
| 08:48.27 | robert | Could anyone give some advice? |
| 08:48.53 | robert | hrw|work: thanks |
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| 08:51.55 | mickeyl | morning |
| 08:52.40 | proti | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.13 | proti | mickeyl: See my comment for zecke. I suspect a bug. |
| 08:54.51 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 08:55.15 | mickeyl | my connectivity at home broke yesterday :/ |
| 08:55.58 | hrw|work | mickeyl: scrool one hour back if you can |
| 08:56.23 | mickeyl | too many cryptic things |
| 08:56.30 | mickeyl | need more coffee before being able to look at that |
| 08:56.55 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 08:58.35 | hrw|work | looking at that "/media/ram" thread I think that we really should unite to ELD (or HTDIWBC (How This Distro Is/Will Be Called)) |
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| 09:02.57 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 09:03.06 | hrw|work | mithro: morning |
| 09:03.10 | hrw|work | ~lart tab |
| 09:04.30 | bluelightning | morning ade|desk, mickeyl, XorA, mithro |
| 09:05.15 | mickeyl | hrw|work: FULL ACK. We should palaver with koen asap to pick three naming suggestions |
| 09:05.41 | mickeyl | fam 0.9.0 and oz 3.5.4 will perhaps be the last split releases then |
| 09:05.47 | mickeyl | s/perhaps/hopefully/ |
| 09:06.34 | hrw|work | mickeyl: when 3.5.4 planned? |
| 09:07.11 | mickeyl | hrw|work: mid-july |
| 09:07.17 | mickeyl | imo |
| 09:07.24 | mickeyl | RFC |
| 09:07.38 | hrw|work | 0726 ;) |
| 09:08.36 | hrw|work | but serious - 9-17 holidays, 23-24 busy (weeding (not mine)) |
| 09:12.58 | ade|desk | you plan your gardening that strictly ?? |
| 09:13.40 | hrw|work | ? |
| 09:13.43 | ade|desk | i tend to do mine as and when needed |
| 09:14.08 | ade|desk | (10:09:29) hrw|work: but serious - 9-17 holidays, 23-24 busy (weeding (not mine)) |
| 09:14.15 | ade|desk | weeding ? |
| 09:14.19 | hrw|work | ops.. |
| 09:14.21 | hrw|work | wrong word |
| 09:14.24 | robert | weeding or wedding? |
| 09:14.27 | ade|desk | weddig perhaps ;) |
| 09:14.31 | hrw|work | wedding ;) |
| 09:14.34 | ade|desk | lol |
| 09:14.39 | robert | :) :) |
| 09:14.53 | hrw|work | that way I learnt new eng word |
| 09:15.13 | hrw|work | ;)) |
| 09:15.34 | ade|desk | weeding : to remove unwanted plants |
| 09:15.45 | hrw|work | ade|desk: found in vocabulary |
| 09:16.05 | robert | funny |
| 09:16.16 | hrw|work | weed -> chwast, wymoczek, cherlak or pieliæ |
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| 09:19.30 | RP | morning all |
| 09:19.39 | hrw|work | hi rp |
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| 09:23.36 | mickeyl | early is relative |
| 09:24.16 | RP | mickeyl: yes, it depends on the amount of sleep you've had in the last few days :) |
| 09:24.48 | RP | In my case the answer would be not enough yet I couldn't sleep much more this morning :-/ |
| 09:25.36 | RP | Whilst I've been away has kergoth got annoyed with a user by any chance? |
| 09:25.46 | bluelightning | hi rp |
| 09:26.06 | RP | hi bluelightning |
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| 09:29.20 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3462 10openembedded/packages/base-files/ (6 files in 6 dirs): add /media/ram as ramdisk on Zaurus and SIMpad machines |
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| 09:40.49 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 09:41.25 | mickeyl | hi reenoo_ |
| 09:41.47 | reenoo_ | hey mickeyl |
| 09:43.24 | RP | hi reenoo_ |
| 09:45.04 | hrw|work | hi Rene |
| 09:45.09 | hrw|work | hi Arjan |
| 09:45.29 | Arjan | hi hrw|work |
| 09:45.50 | ascent | When I do: "bitbake opie-image", it builds fine and gives a rootfs. How can I add additional packages to that rootfs, like a mailclient for instance? Can I somewhere edit a file and add certain packages to it? |
| 09:45.51 | mickeyl | reenoo_: /media/ram is in the fstabs now. |
| 09:46.14 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: ah, cool. good news for GPE users :) |
| 09:46.15 | bluelightning | hi reenoo_ |
| 09:46.34 | mickeyl | reenoo_: I had no problems with this change just with the method of introducing it :) |
| 09:46.52 | reenoo_ | hey RP, hrw|work, bluelightning |
| 09:46.54 | mickeyl | reenoo_: and of course it had to be made not only on c7x0, but on all zaurus and simpad models except the collie |
| 09:47.15 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: ah. very good. I misinterpreted that a bit then. sorry. |
| 09:47.42 | mickeyl | reenoo_: np. now lets make koen calm down and we are happy together again ;) |
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| 09:48.14 | mickeyl | good morning pb_ |
| 09:48.15 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: sounds like a plan ;) |
| 09:48.18 | reenoo_ | hey pb_ |
| 09:49.49 | pb_ | mickeyl: good morning! |
| 09:49.57 | pb_ | reenoo_: good morning! |
| 09:51.45 | proti | morning pb_ |
| 09:51.53 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 09:52.26 | pb_ | hi proti |
| 09:52.27 | pb_ | hi bluelightning |
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| 09:56.46 | reenoo_ | pb_: any ideas on that ipkg/kernel modules issue btw? |
| 09:59.30 | pb_ | reenoo_: which issue was that? |
| 09:59.53 | reenoo_ | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51 |
| 10:00.04 | reenoo_ | pb_: leaves me a bit clueless... |
| 10:04.36 | pb_ | reenoo_: multiple providers, maybe |
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| 10:09.10 | zecke | hey |
| 10:09.22 | mickeyl | hoi |
| 10:09.37 | reenoo_ | hey zecke |
| 10:09.43 | zecke | bah SUN Ultras SUCK |
| 10:10.29 | reenoo_ | pb_: hmm. I have both -hh37.4 and -hh40 packages in deploy/ipk. would that cause ipkg to fail? |
| 10:10.33 | proti | hi zecke. |
| 10:11.00 | bluelightning | hi zecke |
| 10:11.02 | zecke | proti: your patch did not work pkg_pn is highly overloaded... |
| 10:11.22 | zecke | proti: it was a good idea to use it like a one dimensional array... |
| 10:11.42 | zecke | bluelightning: how are you? |
| 10:11.56 | bluelightning | zecke: pretty good, yourself? |
| 10:12.05 | zecke | bluelightning: quite ok |
| 10:12.12 | bluelightning | cool |
| 10:12.36 | bluelightning | haven't had much time to work on handhelds stuff lately... I must make more time :/ |
| 10:12.52 | pb_ | reenoo_: yes |
| 10:13.08 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 10:14.52 | reenoo_ | pb_: ah, ok. how do we fix that then? ipkg-make-index won't move -hh37.4 packages to the morgue since they are different packages. you'd have to manually remove old kernel packages on every version bump |
| 10:15.13 | proti | zecke: If think there is a problem with pkg_pn. It is supposed to be an array holding the file path of each bb providing the pn function. |
| 10:15.20 | proti | Am I correct ? |
| 10:16.11 | zecke | proti: not with in that method, admitingly I don"t know the reasoning behind the file set |
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| 10:16.38 | zecke | anyway your patch did not work as you iterated over a string |
| 10:17.01 | proti | zecke: It was the problem I mentionned in my first mail. |
| 10:17.22 | proti | take pkg_pn[pn] not pkg_pn[pn][0] |
| 10:18.20 | zecke | proti: you show your lack of understanding, and the lack of testing your code... |
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| 10:18.47 | proti | zecke: I did test my patch. the two output of bitbake were identical. |
| 10:18.52 | proti | bitbake -s |
| 10:19.21 | zecke | key error: / |
| 10:19.33 | proti | I maybe broke on my patch (I don't know how, i'll check); |
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| 10:21.00 | Spyro | er guys... why is svn up on bitbake asking me for mickeyls password |
| 10:21.21 | mickeyl | er: because you're using my tarball |
| 10:21.25 | mickeyl | heh |
| 10:21.29 | mickeyl | s/er/Spyro/ |
| 10:21.32 | proti | Fix is in the patch : |
| 10:21.33 | proti | - # get highest priority file set |
| 10:21.33 | proti | - files = pkg_pn[pn][0] |
| 10:21.36 | Spyro | haha lol, yeah I forgot about that :) |
| 10:21.47 | proti | + # get highest priority file set |
| 10:21.47 | proti | + files = pkg_pn[pn] |
| 10:22.28 | proti | This patch fix the key error '/' I had previously. |
| 10:22.38 | proti | It was in the patch I sent. |
| 10:23.11 | proti | bbl lunch |
| 10:23.54 | zecke | proti: check what I've commited yesterday and feel free to send patches to simplify it even more |
| 10:24.24 | proti | zecke: I will. |
| 10:26.42 | zecke | proti: smakelijk eate |
| 10:27.17 | mickeyl | bon appetit |
| 10:27.20 | Hertog | zecke: is that a try at some dutch I see there? |
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| 10:29.00 | hrw|work | smacznego proti |
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| 10:29.15 | zecke | proti: if it looks like dutch it might be dutch |
| 10:29.43 | zecke | ick heb ein grote rote cat :) |
| 10:30.41 | Hertog | zecke: it looks like it, but 'we' don't have no 'eate' (phonetially close tho), 'eten' is what you where looking for I guess..... and the cat thing... well, let's just say... ehrm. |
| 10:31.45 | zecke | Hertog: I would say I can understand spoken dutch reasonable well (hmm well) |
| 10:31.57 | zecke | but writing is... yeah difficult |
| 10:33.22 | Hertog | zecke: same here for me and german. can't write it if my life depended on it, can't speak it (I keep mixing up those ich mir mich du der dich, sie, ihnen sie and the two gazillion variations on it) but I can understand it :) |
| 10:34.48 | hrw|work | I sometimes understand russian |
| 10:34.52 | hrw|work | smacznego mickeyl |
| 10:34.55 | koen | Hertog: coooooooooooola :) |
| 10:35.03 | ascent | tukkers :) |
| 10:35.13 | pb_ | reenoo_lunch: yeah, it's a little bit unsatisfactory. I'm not quite sure what to do about it, yet. |
| 10:35.21 | zecke | mickey|lunch: http://wiki.python.org/moin/RestrictedExecution |
| 10:35.33 | zecke | mickey|lunch: I"m currently considering doing that |
| 10:38.19 | Hertog | koen: vritn zoepn en over de proem heen kroepn |
| 10:38.30 | koen | :) |
| 10:42.47 | zecke | mickey|lunch: do you want to be my OpenEmbedded mentor for google? |
| 10:43.33 | zecke | cya later |
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| 10:49.24 | Spyro | mickey|lunch: you here? |
| 10:50.06 | ascent | in opie-collections.inc, there's a OPIE_DEPENDS_24 and a OPIE_RDEPENDS_24, how can I tell bitbake to build the apps listed in that var as well? |
| 10:50.32 | ascent | That has something to do with the root_flash_size, right? |
| 10:50.40 | koen | correct |
| 10:50.53 | CIA-4 | 03reenoo 07 * r1.3459.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gtk-webcore/osb-browser_20050430.bb: gtk-webcore: add a couple of gdk pixbuf loaders to RRECOMMENDS for osb-browser. |
| 10:50.58 | ascent | hm, where do I define "ROOT_FLASH_SIZE", bitbake.conf? |
| 10:51.07 | koen | MACHINE.conf |
| 10:51.14 | ascent | eh, yes, ofcourse. |
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| 10:55.43 | ascent | Hm, editting that file is normally not done, right? |
| 10:55.53 | ascent | Can't it be specified in local.conf ? |
| 10:58.45 | hrw|work | zecke: that google program looks nice |
| 11:01.12 | zecke | need to find a mentor :) |
| 11:01.38 | zecke | who wants to tutor me? |
| 11:06.42 | hrw|work | zecke: you prefer openembedded or bitbake? |
| 11:07.15 | zecke | hrw|work: or something else, Linux SandBoxing :} |
| 11:07.29 | zecke | hrw|work: but OE would be good, probably implementation of USE |
| 11:07.40 | zecke | hrw|work: or including OpenBSD/NetBSD in OE |
| 11:07.53 | zecke | or porting Solaris10 to ARM :} |
| 11:07.55 | hrw|work | how to dig a hole in sandbox using linux powered PDA |
| 11:08.14 | zecke | hehe, empirial study? |
| 11:08.32 | hrw|work | empirical? not |
| 11:08.50 | zecke | hrw|work: yupp epiricial... |
| 11:08.54 | zecke | damn |
| 11:08.58 | hrw|work | there was a joke about childs digging in sandbox using cellphones |
| 11:09.15 | zecke | now they can use smartphones |
| 11:09.20 | hrw|work | yep |
| 11:09.23 | zecke | http://ds.ccc.de/081/byebye512bit <- good read (sorry for the german) |
| 11:11.14 | zecke | anyway my mentor gets 500$ (if our plot gets accepted) |
| 11:11.29 | hrw|work | few rich children dig holes in sandbox using phones. one child's phone broke.. rest laughs at him so he answer "tomorrow my father will buy me better, newer one!" and they replied "yeah, we know - but until that you will have to use spatula like normal childs :))" |
| 11:13.21 | zecke | hehe |
| 11:13.37 | zecke | problems of the polish youth :) |
| 11:14.24 | hrw|work | original was about russian |
| 11:14.35 | zecke | that actually makes sense |
| 11:14.48 | zecke | replace spetula with hand in that case |
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| 11:40.51 | koen | can do_foo handle overrides too? |
| 11:41.09 | zecke | koen: sure the method is just as a key |
| 11:41.09 | koen | like do_foo_osk5192 |
| 11:41.21 | koen | and addtask too? |
| 11:41.23 | zecke | koen: someone even documented it in bitbake.conf ;) |
| 11:41.39 | zecke | addtask is a keyword AFAIK |
| 11:41.44 | koen | the linux-omap1 kernel is a bit too osk specific |
| 11:45.51 | Spyro | mickey|lunch: you here? |
| 11:53.01 | zecke | ibot: test |
| 11:53.16 | ibot | Test Failed! |
| 11:53.25 | zecke | anyway the net will soon be down |
| 11:55.48 | hrw|work | yesterday I got bnep0 disconnected 3-4 times during 2h |
| 12:05.48 | XorA | y0 |
| 12:05.58 | XorA | sorry, wrong window |
| 12:06.01 | hrw|work | oY XorA |
| 12:21.42 | proti | Another patch. I hope this one is the last for this problem. |
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| 12:40.35 | koen_ | pb_: I figured out my problem with autotools_stage_includes() |
| 12:40.52 | koen_ | pb_: it is autotools_stage_includes, not autotools_stage_includes() :) |
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| 12:58.05 | mickey|lunch | what do you vote? |
| 12:59.43 | pb_ | mickeyl: you guys didn't get a vote, right? |
| 13:00.13 | mickeyl | pb_: if you mean EU constitution, then no :/ |
| 13:00.33 | ade|desk | its a good idea or not ?# |
| 13:00.49 | pb_ | yah, the constitution. I imagine that's what koen has gone to vote on. |
| 13:00.53 | mickeyl | i think it's a good idea. |
| 13:00.57 | mickeyl | apparantly the french don't |
| 13:01.11 | pb_ | so it seems |
| 13:01.18 | ade|desk | will we bother in voting here ? |
| 13:01.33 | ade|desk | here == uk |
| 13:01.37 | pb_ | depends what the Dutch come up with, I suspect. |
| 13:01.39 | Arjan | in general it's a good idea, yes, but not in its current form |
| 13:02.20 | ade|desk | as long as we can keep the pound and the channel between us and the french .. i'm happy ;) |
| 13:02.28 | pb_ | I must admit I don't really know what the constitution says. I started reading the document this morning but I haven't got very far with it yet |
| 13:02.42 | proti | I did vote sunday. I guess my vote wasn't enough. |
| 13:02.48 | ade|desk | 300 pages of lawyer speak ? |
| 13:03.15 | proti | Have a look ade, you can walk in london without meeting french people. |
| 13:04.23 | proti | can't |
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| 13:10.14 | hrw|work | I will wait until it will be translated into Polish and then start reading with original somewhere (many EU docs are bad translated) |
| 13:11.22 | ade|desk | proti: i know .. very upsetting :( |
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| 13:16.01 | koen | our prime minister kept saying "vote yes!" |
| 13:16.21 | koen | at the votingbooth: "For | Against" |
| 13:17.22 | koen | can someone find "yes" in there? |
| 13:17.26 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:17.33 | mickeyl | that was a call to vote no |
| 13:17.43 | mickeyl | or "Against" for that matter |
| 13:18.19 | koen | yep |
| 13:20.04 | Arjan | the whole politics behaving like children about voting 'yes' would almost be reason enough to vote against... |
| 13:21.40 | Hertog | almost... |
| 13:23.53 | Hertog | I don't understand one thing... almost all calls for referenda in the Netherlands have been redirected to /dev/null, and when it comes to something as important as this, they (almost all) wanted it sooo badly |
| 13:25.25 | Arjan | that's strange indeed. what I don't get is why they are being so obscure with information... they definitely did piss off the Dutch with that |
| 13:25.27 | koen | I especially liked the commercial with the holocaust and srebrenica footage. "vote yes, or else...." |
| 13:25.46 | koen | that was distastefull beyond words |
| 13:26.15 | Arjan | indeed, the threats about a WWIII, economic disasters and the holocaust were disgusting |
| 13:26.39 | koen | and "accidentaly" airing that commercial |
| 13:27.28 | Hertog | just as discusting as this Wilders dude, playing on underbelly feelings of the Turks getting into Europe or not. Has nothing to do with this referendum |
| 13:29.13 | proti | mickeyl: I did the patch. One odd thing I found. bibake -s shows no packages with lastest != prefered. Is this thing working or what ? |
| 13:29.25 | Hertog | XorA: so is everyone living in it :) |
| 13:29.48 | XorA | Hertog: we want a united europe where everyone rules themselves, makes my head ache |
| 13:30.15 | mickeyl | proti: that depends on your setting. when you don't have PREFERRED_VERSION set, then (of course) preferred will always be the latest |
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| 13:30.39 | mickeyl | proti: fwiw, i have seen packages where latest != preferred |
| 13:30.57 | Hertog | XorA: indeed. also bad timing. don't do this kind of stuff when there's an economic downturn going on |
| 13:31.25 | zecke | proti: your email is annoying... |
| 13:31.54 | proti | zecke: Why? |
| 13:32.34 | zecke | mickeyl: pkg_pn is a reference right? |
| 13:32.42 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:33.14 | mickeyl | be careful when doing something like pkg_pn = self.status.pkg_pn |
| 13:33.20 | mickeyl | you're _not_ copying |
| 13:33.53 | mickeyl | i have written that on my forehead, because as C/C++ programmer you get used to assignments being copy operations |
| 13:34.58 | zecke | mickeyl: when changing to self.status.pkg_pn I was aware of the reference |
| 13:35.27 | zecke | mickeyl: yesterday (as can be seen in the channel logs) I found it dangerous as well to manipulate pkg_pn that way |
| 13:35.53 | zecke | mickeyl: as can be seen in the commit message as well... |
| 13:36.18 | zecke | proti: sorry, I try to behave better but it is weird to get by mail what I've said |
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| 13:42.08 | proti | zecke: I didn't get everything that happened and why you were upset. I wanted to clarify the issue. |
| 13:42.40 | ascent | Hm, konqueror is broken in OE atm. |
| 13:42.44 | ascent | | make[5]: *** No rule to make target `-lpcre', needed by `konqueror'. Stop. |
| 13:42.55 | hrw|work | ascent: install pcre on host |
| 13:42.58 | ascent | (that's with konqueror-embedded-20030705-r3) |
| 13:43.10 | ascent | oh hm.. |
| 13:43.13 | proti | zecke: so tell me, is it a bug or not ? |
| 13:43.21 | ascent | I thought it needed pcre as pkg somehow.. :) |
| 13:43.22 | ascent | let's see. |
| 13:43.42 | hrw|work | ascent: it need but its buildsystem is fscked |
| 13:44.14 | ascent | hrw|work: pcre i386 4.5-2 db |
| 13:44.18 | ascent | it's installed on the hostpc |
| 13:44.44 | koen | pcre-dev too |
| 13:44.58 | ascent | hm, not sure if fedora has that :) |
| 13:45.02 | koen | if fedora has -dev packages |
| 13:45.04 | koen | :) |
| 13:45.05 | ascent | indeed. :) |
| 13:45.12 | ascent | it doesn't :) |
| 13:45.22 | ascent | What file does it look for? Some /usr/include/blabla file? |
| 13:45.23 | koen | libpcre3-dev? |
| 13:45.50 | ascent | lets see |
| 13:46.18 | ascent | yum is too wird. |
| 13:46.20 | ascent | weird |
| 13:46.50 | ascent | pcre-devel! |
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| 13:47.05 | proti | mickeyl: Strange, I have CVSDATE_gnu-config-native = 20050521 in my local.conf. But doesn't show up like latest != preferred. |
| 13:47.48 | zecke | proti: could we do tmp_pn.append( priorities[p] ) |
| 13:47.52 | kergoth | CVSDATE != PREFERRED_VERSION. CVSDATE=CVSDATE. |
| 13:48.03 | zecke | pkg_pn = tmp_pn.reverse() |
| 13:48.05 | koen | 'morning kergoth |
| 13:48.26 | zecke | hey kergoth |
| 13:48.30 | zecke | koen: whats up? |
| 13:48.50 | koen | zecke: not much |
| 13:48.58 | zecke | kergoth: whats up? ;) |
| 13:49.14 | mickeyl | hey kergoth. how are things? |
| 13:49.18 | hrw|work | hi kergoth |
| 13:49.30 | zecke | proti: and also in-between your changes it is expetced that pkn_pn is a list of lists |
| 13:50.07 | zecke | proti: sadly your patch is only 50% correct |
| 13:50.09 | proti | zecke: pkg_pn is a dict of strings list |
| 13:50.17 | hrw|work | ~hail web.archive.org |
| 13:50.18 | ibot | ACTION bows down to web.archive.org and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 13:51.03 | proti | zecke: How ? I missed something. Were is it expected that pkg_pn[pn] to be a list of list ? |
| 13:51.40 | proti | morning to you too kergoth. |
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| 13:55.27 | proti | zecke: The goal for the tmp_pn thing is to sort pkg_pn pn according to the bb_priority value. Not to change its structure. |
| 13:57.14 | proti | lines 253-267 |
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| 14:08.55 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl * r237 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: use cooker.findBestProvider() for the 'which' command |
| 14:12.24 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3464 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:12.24 | CIA-4 | nokia770.conf: use tune-arm926ejs instead of xscale |
| 14:12.24 | CIA-4 | tune-arm926ejs.conf: set PACKAGE_ARCH to arm926ejs |
| 14:12.24 | CIA-4 | osso-af-utils_0.4.bb: typo-- |
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| 14:16.46 | mithro | ooo, this sumer of code seems intresting |
| 14:17.19 | hrw|work | mithro: you are student? |
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| 14:18.56 | mithro | hrw|work: sure am! |
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| 14:22.47 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3465 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: linux-omap1_2.6.12_rc2.bb: de-omap5912osk-ize the .bb a bit. Everyhting 5912 related should be using overrides now |
| 14:22.49 | koen | Crofton: iirc you are the 5912osk specialist, right? |
| 14:23.24 | mithro | hrw|work: hence why I find it intresting |
| 14:24.16 | mithro | anyway off to bed |
| 14:24.17 | mithro | gnight |
| 14:24.41 | hrw|work | n8 mithro |
| 14:25.23 | hrw|work | cu |
| 14:25.43 | Spyro | mickeyl: hi there? |
| 14:26.10 | mickeyl | Spyro: yep |
| 14:26.23 | Spyro | mickeyl: got time to poe about on my machine ? |
| 14:26.27 | Spyro | poe = poke |
| 14:26.42 | mickeyl | ya |
| 14:27.02 | Spyro | mickeyl: ok, privmsg me and I'll see if I can set up port forwarding so you can ssh in |
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| 14:43.16 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 14:46.54 | proti | zecke: You are correct for the in-between list of lists. I will correct my patch. |
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| 15:05.45 | Luke-Jr | ~akita |
| 15:05.46 | ibot | akita is, like, the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 15:05.58 | Luke-Jr | mickeyl: ping |
| 15:16.19 | ascent | When I want to build the kernel with my own config, I can go to /home/ascent/stuff/openembedded/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6 and replace a defconfig with my own config, given the fact that I have MACHINE = "ipaq-pxa-2.6" in my local.conf, right? |
| 15:16.25 | mickeyl | luke:pong |
| 15:16.33 | ascent | which of the three defconfigs should I replace: |
| 15:16.33 | ascent | -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 26491 May 31 23:12 defconfig |
| 15:16.34 | ascent | -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 25208 May 31 23:12 defconfig-ipaq-pxa-2.6 |
| 15:16.34 | ascent | -r--r--r-- 1 ascent ascent 27497 May 31 23:12 defconfig-ipaq-pxa-2.6_2.6.8.1-hh0 |
| 15:18.15 | Luke-Jr | mickeyl: sure the /media/ram mount should be in akita, etc? |
| 15:18.28 | Luke-Jr | mickeyl: I think /etc/init.d/ramdisk does something on those... |
| 15:19.11 | mickeyl | the /etc/init.d/ramdisk shouldn't do anything on systems without a ramdisk |
| 15:19.18 | mickeyl | "mtd-based" ramdisk |
| 15:19.36 | Luke-Jr | The PDA-style Zaurii don't have that? |
| 15:20.21 | mickeyl | Luke-Jr: the only model with mtd-based ramdisk is collie |
| 15:20.23 | mickeyl | ~collie |
| 15:20.24 | ibot | collie is, like, sharp sl-5500 and sl-5000d, or a dog |
| 15:20.29 | Luke-Jr | hmm |
| 15:20.31 | mickeyl | bbl, need to go home now |
| 15:22.04 | ascent | Anyone? |
| 15:36.17 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3466 10openembedded/conf/machine/h3900.conf: clean up h3900.conf a bit |
| 15:43.58 | Spyro | mickeyl: it broke, btw |
| 15:45.56 | zecke | treke: looks like cornelius wants to remove KitchenSync... |
| 15:46.11 | zecke | IMHO one should start with KRES::Resource... |
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| 15:50.54 | Crofton | koen, I have done alot of the 5912OSK stuff |
| 15:51.38 | koen | Crofton: I rearranged to linux-omap1.bb a bit to allow the nokia770 to use it |
| 15:51.59 | Crofton | cool |
| 15:52.15 | Crofton | I'll double check the stuff at my end "soon" |
| 15:52.18 | koen | could you check if I broke it in non-obvious ways? |
| 15:52.37 | Crofton | I am stuck on some CORBA problem at the moment |
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| 16:02.05 | Crofton | bother the pull locked up bk |
| 16:03.02 | Crofton | Entire repository is locked by: |
| 16:03.02 | Crofton | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.02 | Crofton | ERROR-Unable to lock repository for update. |
| 16:03.10 | Crofton | How do I get out of this again? |
| 16:03.28 | zecke | bk resolve |
| 16:03.33 | zecke | you've a conflict |
| 16:03.48 | Crofton | yeah, I had forgotten again ... |
| 16:06.23 | proti | zecke: I modified the patch, would you like getting an eye on it ? |
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| 16:55.47 | zecke | cya |
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| 17:20.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3467 10openembedded/conf/machine/nokia770.conf: nokia770.conf: add missing arm926ejs to IPKG_ARCHS |
| 17:21.06 | treke | koen: are you intentionally dense? |
| 17:21.15 | koen | dense? |
| 17:21.30 | treke | how many times do we have to explain that bugs.openembedded.org is where we keep the oz bug tracker as well as the oe one? |
| 17:21.44 | koen | I know that |
| 17:21.54 | koen | and I think it is good to combine them |
| 17:22.05 | koen | I was just pointing out the hypocrisy |
| 17:22.14 | treke | bullshit |
| 17:22.33 | treke | it isn't hypocrisy. Hosting two mailing lists is significantly simpler than hosting two bug trackers |
| 17:22.39 | treke | that's all |
| 17:29.44 | Zero_Chaos | What I get "Traceback (most recent call last):" and a bunch of stuff, how do I figure out what happened? |
| 17:36.56 | Zero_Chaos | Can someone please tell me how to get bitbake to spit out more useful debug info? |
| 17:53.26 | CosmicPenguin | Did we add some sort of download file caching to bitbake? |
| 17:53.29 | CosmicPenguin | because if we did - its for shit |
| 17:54.06 | Zero_Chaos | Can someone tell me what this means: TypeError: list objects are unhashable |
| 17:56.35 | treke | sounds ike a type mismatch |
| 17:56.49 | treke | maybe trying to use a list as a key |
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| 17:57.28 | Zero_Chaos | treke: can you tranlate that to english for non-developers |
| 17:58.02 | treke | not really |
| 17:59.16 | Luke-Jr | trying to use a group of stuff as a single item |
| 17:59.21 | Luke-Jr | that's somewhat english, I think ;) |
| 17:59.48 | Luke-Jr | a particular type of single item* |
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| 18:20.55 | Zero_Chaos | Okay, I hate to request this, can someone try to "bitbake opie-image" and see if they get a really long and annoying traceback (after makedevs) |
| 18:22.25 | Zero_Chaos | I removed all my modifications to local.conf and recloned, and I still get the same damn error |
| 18:31.14 | Luke-Jr | Zero_Chaos: did you wipe tmp? |
| 18:36.49 | koen | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SummerOfCode <- hint |
| 18:40.22 | Zero_Chaos | Luke-Jr: yup, I love wiping tmp |
| 18:42.28 | ljp | summer?! you mean winter! |
| 18:42.53 | koen | ok, winterofcode for the people on the southern hemisphere |
| 18:43.47 | ljp | thx :) |
| 18:48.46 | ljp | a bit cold this morning, too |
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| 18:52.13 | CosmicPenguin | ok, so 1.3.0 is completely unusable IMHO |
| 18:52.31 | treke | CosmicPenguin: bitbake 1.3.0? |
| 18:52.38 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 18:52.45 | treke | what broke? |
| 18:53.05 | koen | didn't OE require svn trunk? |
| 18:53.23 | CosmicPenguin | it is completely skipping over the fetch stage in most cases |
| 18:53.35 | CosmicPenguin | -b <package> works though |
| 18:53.40 | CosmicPenguin | s/package/bb/ |
| 19:09.27 | Spyro | hi guys |
| 19:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | shit |
| 19:10.53 | CosmicPenguin | it helps when you port over the right damn base.bbclass... :) |
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| 19:49.05 | hrw | hello |
| 19:49.17 | hrw | I won't say morning as its 21:49 here |
| 19:49.48 | koen | ~UGT |
| 19:49.49 | ibot | rumour has it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 19:49.54 | koen | hey hrw |
| 19:49.58 | hrw | koen: I know about ugt ;) |
| 19:50.00 | Luke-Jr | morning, hrw! |
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| 19:52.53 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 19:53.55 | Luke-Jr | we're using ugt today, it seems... so... morning :) |
| 19:54.15 | hrw | someone tried to watch dvd from ISO (dvd image) file? |
| 19:55.16 | koen | some years ago |
| 19:56.12 | hrw | mounted image and it looks like only video ;( |
| 19:56.52 | hrw | uf.. mplayer can find what need |
| 19:57.27 | hrw | anyway mplayer sucks when it comes to dvdnav |
| 19:57.45 | Luke-Jr | ... |
| 19:58.04 | Luke-Jr | mplayer -dvd-device /dev/loop0 dvd://0 |
| 19:58.32 | hrw | Luke-Jr: mplayer iso/video_ts/* |
| 19:58.39 | Luke-Jr | nah |
| 19:58.42 | Luke-Jr | that won't work nicely |
| 19:58.59 | Luke-Jr | you'll get glitches every 1 GB |
| 20:01.39 | hrw | 54 tracks on disc |
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| 20:08.06 | koen | aboeglin: did you make any progress on a gpe-image for the hx4700 yet? |
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| 20:24.43 | Zero_Chaos | okay, I deleted my tmp, recloned my openembedded, updated everything, removed my personal modifications and still I get this: |
| 20:24.46 | Zero_Chaos | NOTE: package makedevs-1.0.0: completed |
| 20:24.48 | Zero_Chaos | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 20:24.50 | Zero_Chaos | and lots more like that.... |
| 20:24.54 | Zero_Chaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.55 | Zero_Chaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.03 | Zero_Chaos | ending with this: TypeError: list objects are unhashable |
| 20:25.04 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: pastebin it |
| 20:25.06 | hrw | ~pastebin |
| 20:25.09 | ibot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 20:25.41 | Kristoffer | :) |
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| 20:26.39 | pb__ | hi all |
| 20:26.52 | Kristoffer | Howdie :) |
| 20:26.53 | CosmicPenguin | Norm! |
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| 20:35.37 | Zero_Chaos | http://pastebin.ca/13134 |
| 20:35.53 | Zero_Chaos | Can anyone tell me what that means? Or at least how to get more useful debug info? |
| 20:37.29 | hrw | bitbake --version |
| 20:38.10 | Zero_Chaos | BitBake Build Tool core version 1.3.0, bitbake version 1.3.1 |
| 20:38.20 | Zero_Chaos | I think it's 239 from svn |
| 20:38.37 | hrw | 237 is latest |
| 20:38.50 | Zero_Chaos | okay, it's that one then... |
| 20:39.01 | Zero_Chaos | yup, just checked |
| 20:39.23 | CosmicPenguin | see if its just related to opie-image |
| 20:39.40 | Zero_Chaos | CosmicPenguin: what should I build then? |
| 20:40.02 | CosmicPenguin | there's only about a thousand packages to choose from |
| 20:40.15 | CosmicPenguin | How about bootstrap-image |
| 20:40.20 | Zero_Chaos | CosmicPenguin: okay.... |
| 20:40.55 | Zero_Chaos | darnit, rereading the bb files instead of using the cache.... give me a bit.... |
| 20:50.10 | Zero_Chaos | http://pastebin.ca/13137 It's the same thing near as I can tell.... anyway to make this error more useful? |
| 20:54.43 | CosmicPenguin | Zero_Chaos: well, seeing as though I just did a successful bootstrap-image on my side, I'm thinking the problem lays somewhere in your setup |
| 20:55.20 | pb_ | treke, ggilbert: what's the situation with the snapshots at the moment? The last one on oesources.org seems to be dated May 4. |
| 20:56.19 | Zero_Chaos | http://pastebin.ca/13138 Well, that is my setup, can you see anything glaringly wrong? |
| 20:58.10 | treke | pb_: Didnt see a need to continue them now that the same thing could be accomplished with free tools |
| 20:58.50 | pb_ | treke: ah, right, fair enough. |
| 20:59.12 | treke | bitmovers gpl tool should accomplish pretty much the same thing |
| 20:59.44 | treke | except without the delay |
| 21:00.16 | pb_ | Maybe you could add some kind of warning to the snapshots directory to discourage folks from downloading them. One of my colleagues was trying to set up OE today, and he downloaded the snap thinking that it would be the easiest way to get going. |
| 21:00.35 | treke | ah |
| 21:00.35 | pb_ | unfortunately, those snaps don't seem to work at all with the current bitbake. |
| 21:00.41 | treke | yeah |
| 21:00.54 | Zero_Chaos | CosmicPenguin: so, any idea? |
| 21:00.55 | treke | the current bitbake required a change in the metadata |
| 21:01.05 | treke | I'll just drop that site and put in a link the the gpl tool |
| 21:01.12 | pb_ | right, it looks like there was an important change to base.bbclass on May 20 or so |
| 21:01.28 | pb_ | ok, that works for me |
| 21:08.12 | Zero_Chaos | Well, I scratched my local.conf and remade it, I guess I'll let it build again and see where it fails this time.... |
| 21:08.17 | Zero_Chaos | later all. |
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| 21:26.21 | aboeglin | koen: not completely. I managed to boot in GPE from a hx4700 image in which I installed gpe-task-base, but not from a modified h3900 gpe image. |
| 21:26.44 | koen | aboeglin: I'll take a look at it next weekend |
| 21:26.57 | koen | I managed to borrow a hx4700 for testing |
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| 21:27.32 | aboeglin | should I try a clean gpe-image build from openembedded ? |
| 21:27.50 | koen | that will probably fall apart |
| 21:27.54 | koen | but it's worth a try |
| 21:28.00 | koen | jsut to see where it fails |
| 21:28.38 | RP | I've use a c7x0 gpe 2.6 image for the hx4700 |
| 21:28.51 | RP | s/I've/I'd/ |
| 21:29.05 | koen | RP: now you have a hx4700 too? |
| 21:29.25 | RP | koen: No, but I know the hx4700 hardware |
| 21:29.34 | RP | very similar to the hx2750 |
| 21:29.46 | RP | and the hx2750 works best with a c7x0 2.6 gpe image |
| 21:29.54 | Hertog | I've a freshly build c7x0 image lying around here, if someone wants to do some quick testing :) |
| 21:29.59 | aboeglin | is there a familiar 'CURRENT' distro metadata file ? familiar-0.8.2 don't build with latest openembedded data |
| 21:30.59 | koen | 0.9.0 |
| 21:31.37 | koen | pb_: I did some cleanup in h3900.conf today |
| 21:32.23 | koen | pb_: the 2.6 and IMAGE_CMD should be working now |
| 21:32.48 | koen | the "should" depends on me testing a 2.6 build with miplv6 |
| 21:33.01 | pb_ | very good |
| 22:15.29 | koen | 'night all |
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