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| 00:10.32 | [g2] | Ok so I built my first Knoppix LiveCD today which was simply a 3.8.2 Knoppix minus OpenOffice, Thunderbird, and kstars |
| 00:10.59 | [g2] | plus some stuff to build Openslug (you know the drill python-psyco etc...) |
| 00:11.25 | [g2] | I missed SVN on the first go-round, but I'll add it in next |
| 00:12.27 | [g2] | Then with a bitbake snapshot, OE metadata, and tarballs for unslung/openslug we'll have a complete buildable OpenSlug/Unslung distro |
| 00:12.43 | [g2] | We were toying with the name Sluggix |
| 00:16.08 | [g2] | However, less Openslug/Unslung tarballs, it's really OEKnoppix |
| 00:16.50 | [g2] | Are you guys interested in having something like that avialable to the common user ? Or is OE dev or the highway ? |
| 00:31.14 | [g2] | chouimat, looking for a job ? |
| 00:31.31 | chouimat | [g2]: since november |
| 00:31.43 | [g2] | that's a while |
| 00:31.53 | [g2] | sorry to hear that you are still looking |
| 00:32.09 | chouimat | [g2]: it's ok I have contracts to do once in a while |
| 00:32.23 | [g2] | that's good! |
| 00:32.33 | [g2] | what kind of work do you do ? |
| 00:32.42 | chouimat | firewall stuff |
| 00:33.22 | [g2] | linux firewall ? |
| 00:33.33 | chouimat | [g2]: the interview was on the phone conference call (stupid imho) and I got one of the two interviewers laughing |
| 00:33.49 | chouimat | linux and freebsd (mopstly freebsd (embedded)) |
| 00:34.11 | [g2] | sounds like the other guys was quite serious |
| 00:34.13 | [g2] | :( |
| 00:34.52 | [g2] | chouimat, you may be interested in http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap-userguide.xml |
| 00:34.55 | chouimat | [g2]: I actualy prefers getting a not serious enough than a lack of ambition |
| 00:35.20 | [g2] | so what's your ambition ? |
| 00:35.38 | chouimat | [g2]: a good and fun job, a new wife and a family |
| 00:35.55 | [g2] | and are you old-school freebsd ? |
| 00:36.28 | chouimat | the one I build is using 4.11 ... 5.3 and 5.4 doesn't seems to work on the 16MB flash I'm using |
| 00:36.54 | chouimat | this gnap thing is interesting |
| 00:37.17 | [g2] | iirc it's a hardened uclibc toolchain |
| 00:38.17 | [g2] | what arches are you familiar with ? |
| 00:38.43 | chouimat | x86,arm and slowly learning ppc |
| 00:38.57 | [g2] | which arm ? |
| 00:39.20 | chouimat | zaurus for now |
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| 00:56.43 | mithro | is there an easy way to say to the kernel only compile a certain part of the kernel? |
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| 01:32.17 | robert_ | kergoth: |
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| 03:44.52 | robert_ | kergoth: |
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| 04:01.40 | kergoth | robert_: what? |
| 04:09.11 | subdue | "as the world turns" |
| 04:09.15 | subdue | (very slowly) |
| 04:24.31 | _ggilbert | chouimat|Zzzz: xandros "it's greek for bollocks" |
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| 04:41.35 | [g2] | anyone know what kind of NX support is in 2.6.11+ for AMD64 ? |
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| 06:39.13 | robert__ | kergoth: |
| 06:42.19 | kergoth | robert__: what? |
| 06:42.48 | robert__ | kergoth:you told me it isnt correct of setting ASSUME_PROVIDED = "virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95" and PATH=/usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin:$PATH. |
| 06:42.50 | robert__ | could you tell me how to do ? i have no idea. |
| 06:45.43 | kergoth | that isnt what you told me you set. |
| 06:45.51 | kergoth | and why are you asking me? i'm not the only one here who can help you |
| 06:46.02 | kergoth | if you have a question, ask it and someone will respond |
| 06:46.12 | robert__ | ... |
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| 06:50.01 | robert__ | sorry to trouble you |
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| 06:56.06 | kergoth | that PATH and ASSUME_PROVIDED is from the _zaurus kernels_ wiki page. if you arent targeting a zaurus, that isnt correct. |
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| 06:58.01 | jbowler | kergoth: a question, I'm looking at a change to the openslug config of busybox (i.e. a change in packages/busybox/busybox-1.00/openslug). When I make a change like this I need to bump the PR, but if I do that I bump the PR for all OE builds, even though I only change nslu2 stuff - how do you guys feel about that? |
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| 07:15.10 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:15.34 | koen | jbowler: if you have to bump PR, that's the way it is |
| 07:16.32 | jbowler | koen: thanks, that's what I figured, just annoying to force new packages on every build... |
| 07:16.42 | koen | shit happens |
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| 07:56.40 | RP | morning all |
| 07:58.16 | mickeyl | good morning |
| 08:00.01 | RP | mickeyl: zecke needs to read your email about testing changes before checking them in ;-) |
| 08:00.13 | mickeyl | RP: hehe |
| 08:00.17 | mickeyl | RP: did he break anything? |
| 08:00.48 | RP | Managed to stop oe working completely... |
| 08:00.53 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 08:00.57 | mickeyl | let me check |
| 08:01.03 | RP | its fixed |
| 08:01.15 | RP | (see my last changeset) |
| 08:01.56 | RP | mickeyl: It was a documentation typo with rather nasty side effects |
| 08:02.14 | mickeyl | ups |
| 08:02.21 | mickeyl | i see :) |
| 08:03.03 | RP | Thankfully it was fixed before users started getting ahold of it :) |
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| 08:04.14 | mickeyl | hmm guess i will help documenting some vars |
| 08:07.27 | RP | mickeyl: I'd prefer a comments system that didn't take up memory when using bitbake normally :-/ |
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| 08:07.40 | RP | Even if we then needed a seperate parser |
| 08:07.43 | mickeyl | RP: true enough |
| 08:08.07 | mickeyl | I would've voted more for something along my meta data line |
| 08:08.41 | RP | mickeyl: I quite like that idea |
| 08:08.51 | koen | RP: the build runs fine, until a patch needs to be applied |
| 08:09.30 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 08:09.42 | RP | koen: That's ok then, we don't need to apply patches often afterall ;-) |
| 08:09.52 | koen | RP: so maybe zecke tested it with the 'wrong' .bb |
| 08:10.55 | RP | koen: I know. I'm not being entirely serious. It was just the shear scale of the bug that scared me... |
| 08:11.46 | koen | indeed |
| 08:12.05 | koen | I fixed it this morning, before I bk pulled |
| 08:12.26 | koen | luckily zecke made a typo, so grep only had one hit :) |
| 08:12.45 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 08:12.47 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 08:13.56 | RP | koen: I just checked the last changesets as I knew it had to be something in the last handful of them. The typo did help to spot it :) |
| 08:15.34 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3342 10openembedded/conf/documentation.conf: documentation.conf: typo-- |
| 08:18.59 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3343 10openembedded/conf/documentation.conf: |
| 08:19.00 | CIA-9 | Merge bk://oe-devel@oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 08:19.00 | CIA-9 | into r2d2.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de:/local/pkg/oe/packages |
| 08:19.02 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3341.1.1 10openembedded/conf/documentation.conf: document some attributes |
| 08:26.12 | hrw|work | morning all |
| 08:26.21 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:26.24 | koen | how was the movie? |
| 08:26.46 | hrw|work | great |
| 08:26.55 | hrw|work | more action |
| 08:27.29 | hrw|work | finally I know why Vader lost eyebrows in ROTJ dvd edition |
| 08:28.56 | hrw|work | more dynamic scenes (atleast more then in classic trilogy - I dont remember when watched episode I, II) |
| 08:29.23 | hrw|work | Yoda fights looks nice |
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| 08:33.20 | hrw|work | and there are many references to next episodes |
| 08:35.15 | hrw|work | and one thing was strange for me.. so called 'Star wars scroll' at the beggining of the movie was translated to Polish (rest of movie was with subtitles) |
| 08:38.34 | koen | let's hope it isn't in Polish over here :) |
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| 08:39.40 | hrw|work | :) |
| 08:42.23 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3342.1.1 10openembedded/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.2.13.bb: fakeroot_1.2.13.bb: new fakeroot. Someone more knowledgeable should update fakeroot-native, since that one has a patch in the previous version |
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| 08:52.06 | hrw|work | I need sleep.. |
| 08:54.38 | hrw|work | 5h is not enough for me |
| 08:56.11 | b0ti|work | glade doesn't build: |
| 08:56.12 | b0ti|work | | glade/.libs/libglade-2.0.so: undefined reference to `inflate' |
| 08:56.34 | b0ti|work | Is this a zlib link error? |
| 08:56.36 | koen | missing -lz? |
| 08:57.40 | b0ti|work | -lz is not there. |
| 08:58.39 | b0ti|work | what should I modify/add to the .bb ? |
| 08:59.10 | koen | LDFLAGS +=" -lz " |
| 08:59.24 | woglinde | hm |
| 08:59.25 | koen | if that doesn't works use CFLAGS +=" -lz " |
| 08:59.37 | woglinde | the questions what buildsystem glade has |
| 08:59.54 | koen | one off the two worked for me in the past |
| 08:59.55 | woglinde | and why it doesnt use libz |
| 09:00.02 | koen | autoconf |
| 09:00.06 | woglinde | hehe |
| 09:00.12 | koen | all gnomestuff is aututooled |
| 09:00.14 | woglinde | than it should find libz |
| 09:00.37 | koen | yeah, it should |
| 09:00.47 | woglinde | in configure stage and bail out when not |
| 09:00.56 | koen | *if* it has a chack for it |
| 09:01.00 | woglinde | yeah |
| 09:01.08 | koen | ehm, check even |
| 09:01.21 | woglinde | damnit developers *g* |
| 09:02.02 | lardman | morning |
| 09:02.11 | woglinde | hi lardman |
| 09:03.22 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3345 10openembedded/ (10 files in 3 dirs): add fakeroot-native 1.2.13 and remove outdated ones |
| 09:03.55 | woglinde | hi mickeyl *g* |
| 09:04.03 | b0ti|work | This is what configure got: |
| 09:04.05 | b0ti|work | checking LIBGLADE_LIBS... -L/var/src/openembedded/tmp//staging/arm-linux/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 |
| 09:04.17 | koen | mithro: could you close the bug in bugzilla too? |
| 09:04.18 | b0ti|work | and -lz is not there. |
| 09:04.20 | koen | aargh |
| 09:04.28 | koen | s/mithro/mickeyl/ |
| 09:04.45 | mickeyl | koen: i don't think i have those rights yet |
| 09:04.57 | koen | a login is enough |
| 09:04.58 | mickeyl | hi woglinde |
| 09:05.04 | koen | mickeyl: I'll close it |
| 09:05.20 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 09:05.36 | RP | I seemed to have a surprising number of rights in bugzilla yesterday :) |
| 09:05.46 | mickeyl | koen: yes, please make that distro instead of openzaurus |
| 09:06.22 | koen | mickeyl: we'll have to ask treke to do that |
| 09:06.23 | lardman | so what time did you see Star Wars hrw? |
| 09:06.36 | koen | I'll poke him when california wakes up |
| 09:06.42 | hrw|work | lardman: 00:01 CEST |
| 09:06.51 | mickeyl | k |
| 09:06.52 | hrw|work | or s/CEST/GMT+2 |
| 09:06.58 | hrw|work | iirc |
| 09:07.24 | hrw|work | finished 0.5l coffee and still sleeping |
| 09:08.12 | lardman | hrw|work :) |
| 09:09.19 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 09:09.23 | mickeyl | good idea, btw. |
| 09:09.31 | robert__ | hehe |
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| 09:10.12 | b0ti|work | what should I do with this glib borkage? Mail PB? File a bug in OE bugzilla ? |
| 09:10.20 | b0ti|work | glade* |
| 09:11.11 | koen | either one should work |
| 09:11.55 | woglinde | boti fix the configure script |
| 09:12.40 | b0ti|work | woglinde: if I fix it for myself, that won't help for the rest of the world. |
| 09:13.06 | woglinde | boit ah okay |
| 09:13.53 | koen | who has the power to edit the oe.org website? |
| 09:14.36 | mickeyl | if i hadn't lost my login |
| 09:14.37 | mickeyl | me |
| 09:14.37 | mickeyl | :) |
| 09:14.47 | koen | we can add jlime and the University of Twente to http://openembedded.org/success.php |
| 09:14.48 | hrw|work | it looks like I will create new folder in mail.. OE bugs |
| 09:15.54 | koen | mickeyl: login? I though hh.org uses keybased auth |
| 09:16.58 | mickeyl | yes, but we have a CMS running there don't we ? |
| 09:19.30 | koen | mickeyl: oh, I didn't know that |
| 09:23.52 | gints|wrk | when I do force compile like bitbake -f -c compile -b .... do I need force install, and package.. or I can do force package only? |
| 09:25.50 | hrw|work | ~lart gnumeric authors for preferences in 'format' menu |
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| 09:25.52 | koen | no idea, but I'd go for the -c install -c package |
| 09:26.20 | gints|wrk | koen: ok thks... |
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| 09:31.32 | b0ti|work | I'm trying to make a .bb for libanthy, but there is a binary (to generate install data) that fails to execute, because it is cross-compiled. The debian mainainer solved this by executing this in postinst, but I don't think it's nice. Any suggestions? |
| 09:32.08 | koen | maybe an anthy-native |
| 09:32.16 | Spyro | hi guys |
| 09:32.26 | Spyro | has anyone got a binary of a non-kdrive Xserver to hand ? |
| 09:32.54 | koen | only for x86 |
| 09:32.55 | hrw|work | b0ti|work: or look how mplayer has codec-cfg build |
| 09:33.11 | koen | If I look hard maybe for sparc and mips too |
| 09:33.12 | Spyro | darn |
| 09:33.31 | Spyro | koen: whats the package name of a normal (non kdrive) X in oe ? |
| 09:33.40 | koen | xserver-xorg iirc |
| 09:33.49 | Spyro | ta |
| 09:34.06 | Spyro | koen: Kdrive managed to totally stiff the e330 |
| 09:34.20 | koen | no surprise there |
| 09:34.30 | koen | I'm debugging the tslib handling right now |
| 09:34.33 | Spyro | koen: I managed to make it start and run long enough to start a remote session on it |
| 09:34.49 | Spyro | koen: you found it locks up other machiens solid? |
| 09:34.59 | koen | does that have an mq chip? |
| 09:35.09 | Spyro | yes, however Im using vsfb on it right now |
| 09:35.16 | koen | ah |
| 09:35.33 | Spyro | we have also seen occasional cases of w100 chips getting upset (whitescreening) |
| 09:35.36 | koen | 2.6 on a h5550 locks solid after 30secs of lcd usage |
| 09:35.47 | Spyro | any idea why? |
| 09:38.20 | koen | no clue whatever |
| 09:38.30 | Spyro | is that LCD usage or X ? |
| 09:38.36 | Spyro | ie. does fbcon work ? |
| 09:40.28 | koen | lcd usage |
| 09:40.44 | Spyro | hm. thats a dif. problem then |
| 09:40.53 | Spyro | fbcon works indefinately here |
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| 09:51.59 | b0ti|work | If I do "inherit native", the whole package will be built native right? And I only have this one binary that needs to be native. |
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| 09:56.16 | mickeyl | yes, the whole package |
| 09:56.28 | mickeyl | so either build the host tool manually |
| 09:56.35 | zecke | hey |
| 09:56.36 | mickeyl | (${HOST_CC} ...) |
| 09:56.40 | bluelightning | hi zecke |
| 09:56.41 | mickeyl | or factor the binary out |
| 09:56.54 | mickeyl | and make the package depend on the native tool |
| 09:58.03 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
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| 10:17.53 | b0ti|work | I'll just make a native package that prepares the data file (dictionary file) and puts it in an ipk. The binary itself is not needed. |
| 10:17.57 | b0ti|work | Now how should I change the source directory name to mach with the bb so that the build succeeds? |
| 10:18.10 | b0ti|work | s/mach/match/ |
| 10:19.10 | koen | S = "${WORKDIR}/bla" |
| 10:19.14 | koen | something like that? |
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| 11:55.22 | hrw|work | I will add libts 20050505 into OZ upgrades to get libqte2/akita working |
| 12:12.02 | zecke | hrw|work: with a different ts.conf or what was broken? |
| 12:12.29 | koen | libqte2 depends on a newer version |
| 12:12.35 | hrw|work | libqte2/akita from upgrades depends on libts 20050505 which is not available in feed |
| 12:13.04 | hrw|work | s/is/was ;) |
| 12:14.04 | zecke | ah ok |
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| 12:18.55 | RP | zecke: Did you notice my fix to oe? :) |
| 12:23.26 | zecke | RP: oops |
| 12:23.33 | zecke | I though I have looked carefully |
| 12:24.03 | RP | zecke: At least it was easily fixed :) |
| 12:24.12 | koen | ~hail typos |
| 12:24.24 | ibot | ACTION bows down to typos and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 12:24.39 | zecke | RP: the directory should have been create |
| 12:24.58 | zecke | temp/Temporary directory within the WORKDIR/run.do_compile |
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| 12:28.56 | zecke | I bet you're all busy with writing missing documentation |
| 12:29.21 | zecke | RP: with the C++ bitbake parser and lemon we've a grammar for our bitbake files? |
| 12:30.13 | hrw|work | Courier imap is a little strange... Inbox.sent |
| 12:33.54 | RP | zecke: Yes, the gammar is all there and was showing up some errors in the .bb files :) |
| 12:34.15 | zecke | RP: good that is what I wanted to know. It hopefully does not accept ABC = 1 |
| 12:36.35 | RP | zecke: This weekend, I hope to clean up the code I have and make it do something useful |
| 12:36.44 | RP | Once that works, I'd love to hook in the parser |
| 12:43.27 | mickeyl | I guess you didn't have time to look at the Symbol card yet, right? :) |
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| 12:50.36 | zecke | treke: hey |
| 12:51.27 | Crofton | zecke, what about my osk patches? |
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| 12:53.12 | RP | mickeyl: I've tried to get it to work under the 2.6.12 kernel and it isn't working. Is there some mismatch there? |
| 12:53.47 | RP | I can't decide if its my wireless setup causing problems or the drivers, or maybe opie |
| 12:54.00 | RP | My hostap card works... |
| 12:54.15 | RP | (by I have to run iwconfig wlan0 essid someessid |
| 12:54.51 | zecke | Crofton: did you resent them to me? |
| 12:54.52 | mickeyl | RP: the latest orinoco-0.13e-26 should work. i fixed a remaining bug with 2.6.12 a couple of days ago |
| 12:55.45 | RP | mickeyl: This is an opie-image built yesterday so that should be the case :-/ |
| 12:56.03 | RP | It'll probably be my setup and the need to speicify the essid... |
| 12:56.12 | mickeyl | does the card LED light up ? |
| 12:56.22 | mickeyl | if so, then at least it gets detected and the firmware gets uploaded |
| 12:56.31 | RP | It flashes, yes |
| 12:56.33 | mickeyl | good |
| 12:56.40 | mickeyl | slow blink = unassociated |
| 12:56.43 | mickeyl | fast blink = associated |
| 12:56.52 | mickeyl | very fast blink = data in/out |
| 12:56.54 | mickeyl | (fyi)( |
| 12:57.08 | RP | That's handy to know. Its doing a slow blink |
| 12:57.26 | RP | I did see a faster blink at one point but can't rememebr what I did :-/ |
| 12:57.32 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:57.39 | mickeyl | probably setting the SSID to something meaningful :) |
| 12:58.30 | RP | Ok, I have it on in front of me here - ssid is set, still have a slow blink |
| 12:59.26 | mickeyl | MAC filter ? |
| 12:59.31 | mickeyl | (on your AP) |
| 12:59.44 | mickeyl | what does iwconfig say ? |
| 12:59.51 | RP | mickeyl: That's a very good point. doh! :) |
| 13:00.02 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:00.04 | mickeyl | been there, done that :) |
| 13:00.22 | RP | I keep fogetting about the mac filter... |
| 13:00.28 | RP | Did the same when I got the ipaq... |
| 13:00.40 | koen | replacing the NIC in your server and not changing the MAC filter is frustrating too..... |
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| 13:04.22 | RP | mickeyl: it works now ;-) |
| 13:04.30 | mickeyl | good |
| 13:04.52 | RP | I'm pleased you mentioned that as I could have spent hours remembering the mac filter :) |
| 13:05.52 | zecke | hehe |
| 13:06.29 | mickeyl | like i said, that fooled me once and took hours to debug. i won't forget it a 2nd time |
| 13:06.33 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:06.38 | mickeyl | (hopefully) |
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| 13:06.42 | koen | I won't forget it a 3rd time |
| 13:07.05 | RP | I thought that before I got the ipaq, then it still took me an hour to remember... :-/ |
| 13:07.25 | RP | It was keen to connect to my neighbours network instead... |
| 13:09.17 | bluelightning | night all |
| 13:09.23 | koen | 'night bluelightning |
| 13:09.26 | RP | 'night bluelightning |
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| 13:17.25 | mickeyl | hi drw |
| 13:17.57 | drw | hi mickeyl |
| 13:18.12 | hrw|work | hi drw |
| 13:18.27 | drw | hi hrw|work |
| 13:26.19 | hrw|work | hmm.. disconnected imap + kmail == crashes |
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| 13:28.43 | hrw|work | hi offroadgeek |
| 13:29.05 | offroadgeek | hello hrw|work |
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| 13:57.51 | schurig | chouimat: greetings to the cat |
| 13:57.59 | chouimat | hi schurig |
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| 14:05.45 | dmit | hello |
| 14:08.28 | dmit | could someone give me a hint on adding a package to OE? It is a standard "./configure ; make ; make install" software, just need to create a .bb file for it. |
| 14:09.19 | koen | inherit autotools |
| 14:10.28 | Crofton | look at swig, I am thinking it is very simple |
| 14:11.21 | Crofton | when you inherit from autotools is this necessary? |
| 14:11.28 | Crofton | do_configure() { |
| 14:11.28 | Crofton | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.28 | Crofton | } |
| 14:11.38 | koen | no |
| 14:12.03 | koen | OE will run autoconf and the regenerated ./configure by itself |
| 14:12.23 | Crofton | heh, well swig has it :) |
| 14:12.35 | koen | SRC_URI="http://bla" |
| 14:12.45 | koen | inherit autotools |
| 14:12.58 | koen | with those two lines you have a working, but ugly .bb |
| 14:13.12 | Crofton | the standard configuer method uses extra_oeconf? |
| 14:13.43 | koen | yes, and the inherit one too |
| 14:14.11 | mickeyl | sometimes we have to run oe_runconf manually, this is only a hack though - in case we are too lazy to fix their configure.in to have it properly regenerated |
| 14:14.12 | koen | the inherit autotools takes the extra step of regenerating all the autoconf stuff |
| 14:14.48 | Crofton | ah |
| 14:15.16 | Crofton | so if the autoconf is broken, you would try overriding the configure method |
| 14:15.38 | koen | if it's too much trouble to fix, yes |
| 14:16.26 | koen | building without a source archives is slow on my cable connection |
| 14:18.23 | koen | mickeyl: I have some work for you |
| 14:18.25 | koen | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12636&pid=80509&st=15&#entry80509 |
| 14:18.35 | koen | "On the other hand, OPIE is an offshoot of OpenEmbedded which is an embedded Linux system" |
| 14:18.51 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:18.53 | RP | I'm not even going to look :) |
| 14:18.53 | mickeyl | offshoot ? |
| 14:18.54 | mickeyl | what's that |
| 14:19.03 | koen | branch |
| 14:19.12 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 14:19.14 | mickeyl | nonsense |
| 14:19.28 | koen | onions get offshoots when you keep them too long |
| 14:21.00 | koen | he's confusing OPIE with or brandnew distro |
| 14:21.56 | dmit | koen, Crofton: thanx for a hint, it is all clear now |
| 14:23.22 | hrw|work | I replie |
| 14:23.23 | hrw|work | d |
| 14:24.01 | hrw|work | "wavetossed: thx for free laugh :)" |
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| 15:04.25 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:17.41 | kergoth`zzz | mickeyl: right now openembedded.org is largely static content, no CMS. the plan was to move to one, possibly zope/plone, but that never happened, and the maintainer for it hasnt been seen in some time. you can just go onto hh.o and adjust the pages if need be |
| 15:19.07 | koen | 'morning kergoth |
| 15:19.28 | koen | kergoth: mezmerize is very nice indeed |
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| 15:22.43 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:26.45 | kergoth | koen: :) |
| 15:27.13 | drw | koen: the new system of a down album? |
| 15:28.17 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:28.48 | drw | been thinking about getting it, but only have heard byob so far... |
| 15:28.52 | koen | drw: yes |
| 15:41.07 | hrw | re |
| 15:41.45 | kergoth | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (2035/2368) [85 %]NOTE: exceptions.AttributeError:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getVar' while evaluating: |
| 15:41.45 | kergoth | http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/AtiCore.${TARGET_FPU}.tar.bz2 |
| 15:41.45 | kergoth | ERROR: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getVar' while parsing /home/kergoth/code/openembedded/packages/sharp-binary-only/sharp-aticore.bb |
| 15:41.45 | kergoth | heh |
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| 15:58.00 | RP | kergoth: that's with the latest oe and bitbake? :-/ |
| 15:58.16 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:58.53 | RP | Looks like we haven't found all the assumptions bitbake makes then... :) |
| 16:01.32 | Spyro | Hi guys |
| 16:01.39 | RP | hi Spyro |
| 16:01.51 | Spyro | anyone seeing problems building xserver-xorg-6.8.1+cvs20050519 ? |
| 16:02.35 | RP | I've not tried... |
| 16:03.23 | Spyro | RP: any chance you could knock off a quick test ? |
| 16:03.29 | kergoth | i should finish up the non-busybox bootstrap-image/task-bootstrap |
| 16:15.22 | RP | Spyro: compile fails |
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| 16:18.39 | treke|laptop | mroning |
| 16:18.54 | RP | hi treke|laptop |
| 16:24.47 | hrw | I plan to push one change to task-bootstrap.. adding setserial (17K) and fuser (22K) - all those btuart, gps users |
| 16:26.13 | koen | ehm |
| 16:26.30 | koen | newer gpsd's can handle the serial port by itself |
| 16:27.32 | hrw | so leave it? |
| 16:29.55 | hrw | hrw 1.3345.1.1 set newer konqueror-embedded as non-default one - it's BROKEN |
| 16:30.48 | koen | hrw: the only problem is that those nwer gpsd's break with qpegps and gpsdrive |
| 16:31.21 | hrw | ok |
| 16:31.27 | hrw | I have to go - bbl |
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| 16:33.54 | CosmicPenguin | So we're going to have to specifically set TARGET_FPU="" in the machine/*.confs? |
| 16:34.49 | kergoth | that doesnt sound right. |
| 16:35.43 | koen | TARGET_FPU isn't a machine decision |
| 16:36.08 | b0ti|work | Ok, I got anthy to build. Now, I have libs in /image/usr/lib/gtk-2.0 but this doesn't get packaged. Any tips? |
| 16:36.43 | koen | FILES_{$PN} += "/usr/lib/gtk-2.0" |
| 16:36.53 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3345.2.1 10openembedded/packages/stunnel/stunnel_4.09.bb: stunnel_4.09.bb: adjust SRC_URI |
| 16:36.54 | b0ti|work | koen: thanx |
| 16:37.31 | kergoth | s,/usr/lib,${libdir}, |
| 16:37.39 | koen | indeed |
| 16:37.47 | koen | I tend to forget that sometimes |
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| 16:40.10 | RP | sharp-aticore works here :-/ |
| 16:40.18 | zecke | hey |
| 16:40.31 | koen | moin zecke |
| 16:40.38 | CosmicPenguin | RP: do you have TARGET_FPU defined? |
| 16:41.06 | RP | CosmicPenguin: I'm using distro=oz so it must be set to soft |
| 16:42.18 | zecke | hey |
| 16:42.27 | CoreDump|home | hey zecke |
| 16:43.00 | RP | zecke: kergoth saw this earlier: |
| 16:43.02 | RP | [16:41:46] <kergoth> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (2035/2368) [85 %]NOTE: |
| 16:43.02 | RP | exceptions.AttributeError:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getVar' while evaluating: |
| 16:43.03 | RP | [16:41:46] <kergoth> http://www.mithis.com/zaurus/AtiCore.${TARGET_FPU}.tar.bz2 |
| 16:43.03 | RP | [16:41:46] <kergoth> ERROR: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'getVar' while parsing |
| 16:43.07 | RP | /home/kergoth/code/openembedded/packages/sharp-binary-only/sharp-aticore.bb |
| 16:43.07 | RP | [16:41:47] <kergoth> heh |
| 16:43.38 | zecke | RP: he is not the only one |
| 16:43.43 | kergoth | RP: my TARGET_FPU isnt set. not targeting arm, so it isnt necessary, and doesnt even work. |
| 16:43.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:43.57 | zecke | kergoth: it isn't set for familiar-0.9.0 either |
| 16:44.11 | zecke | kergoth: this is why I raised COMPATIBLE_DISTRO yesterday |
| 16:44.28 | koen | it isn't set for eabi either |
| 16:44.52 | RP | I guess with the bitbake changes, unset variables are being handled a bit differently |
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| 16:45.07 | koen | but say I change a distro setting, should alter *all* .bbs with COMPATIBLE_DISTRO? |
| 16:45.09 | kergoth | before, unset vars were left alone |
| 16:45.11 | kergoth | not replaced |
| 16:45.22 | koen | s/should/should I/ |
| 16:45.29 | zecke | kergoth: shouldn't I return None but empty string? |
| 16:45.43 | kergoth | ? |
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| 16:45.49 | kergoth | getVar returns None when the var isnt set |
| 16:45.55 | kergoth | but _expand_ doesnt replace unset vars |
| 16:46.08 | zecke | hmm weird |
| 16:46.23 | kergoth | its an old artifact of the fact that our ${} syntax is the same as shells |
| 16:46.30 | RP | but what does expand do with variables set to None? |
| 16:46.30 | kergoth | if we didnt expand it, the shell was still free to |
| 16:46.35 | kergoth | RP: hm? |
| 16:46.42 | zecke | expand is unchanged, or is TARGET_FPU orphaned in the dict? |
| 16:47.25 | kergoth | RP: when you're emitting the shell code, you just call bb.data.expand("${BLAH}") instead of bb.data.getVar('BLAH') |
| 16:47.55 | kergoth | its an ugly old artifact. i've never liked it, and i always wanted unset vars to expand to nothing |
| 16:48.22 | RP | kergoth: Ah :-/ |
| 16:48.38 | RP | That line in the .bb is messed up anyway and has a bug filed against it |
| 16:49.15 | RP | in the hardfloat case it should expand to AtiCore.tar.bz2 and not AtiCore..tar.bz2 |
| 16:49.35 | kergoth | should be a little bit of python code or something then,rather than just blindly using TARGET_FPU |
| 16:50.37 | koen | http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/patch@1.2930.68.106 |
| 16:50.41 | koen | there you are |
| 16:51.13 | koen | that's what we use for sshd patches and DISTRO_TYPE too |
| 16:53.26 | Spyro | guys... any of you know if the xorg snapshot (not CVS) in oe is buildable ? |
| 16:53.47 | koen | pb_ might now |
| 16:54.00 | koen | he updated it last week or so for his mythbox |
| 16:55.40 | zecke | could we create a oe-bugs@handhelds.org mailinglist? |
| 16:55.56 | RP | I think that would be wise |
| 16:56.21 | RP | Although if they go to oe@, they might get more attention :) |
| 16:56.34 | kergoth | dont they go to oe@ now? |
| 16:56.37 | kergoth | they should be |
| 16:56.40 | koen | they do |
| 16:58.45 | zecke | I feel annoyed and I don't want to create a mailfilter based on subject :} |
| 16:59.02 | kergoth | dont then, create a filter based on sender :P |
| 16:59.25 | CosmicPenguin | Dammit |
| 16:59.35 | CosmicPenguin | I really fscked up my Bitkeeper tree |
| 16:59.42 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: bk repair |
| 17:00.24 | zecke | so nobody will feel annoyed when I create ~20 bug reports |
| 17:01.26 | koen | zecke: If we get annoyed by bugs, we shouldn't have such buggy code :) |
| 17:01.42 | RP | zecke: go for it :) |
| 17:02.23 | RP | I was closing kernel ones as fast as some guy could open them the other night :) |
| 17:02.25 | zecke | treke: I can not query on bugs.oe.org |
| 17:02.33 | Spyro | anyone know of a FREE windows emulation for linux with USB support ? |
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| 17:06.22 | zecke | kergoth: I've now some sugar in my blood, so bb.data.expand('{TARGET_FPU}',d) should evaluate to ''? |
| 17:06.31 | kergoth | no |
| 17:06.43 | kergoth | bb.data.expand('${TARGET_FPU}', d) should evaluate to '${TARGET_FPU}' |
| 17:06.52 | zecke | ok |
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| 17:07.12 | kergoth | personally i'd prefer it if it expanded to '', but we cant juts change that now :) |
| 17:08.48 | zecke | kergoth: weird so AtiCore should have evaluated http://foo/foo${TARGET_FPU}? sorry if I sound confused - I'm |
| 17:09.17 | kergoth | yeah, it shouldve stayed as is |
| 17:10.44 | zecke | ok there was a bug and it is broken otherwise now :} |
| 17:12.11 | RP | Bascially that bb is broken and needs fixing :) |
| 17:12.43 | zecke | RP: no we need a testcase and report that failure :) |
| 17:13.11 | koen | virtual/aticore |
| 17:13.20 | zecke | hehe |
| 17:13.25 | koen | preferred_provider=aticore-soft |
| 17:14.24 | zecke | treke: bugs.oe.org does not allow to be queried |
| 17:14.32 | zecke | Unknown column 'relevance' in 'field list' |
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| 17:23.02 | zecke | OT: does anyone know what GUI it runs? http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7558010259.html |
| 17:26.27 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: montavista - aren't they exclusively QT? |
| 17:27.42 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: no they use GTK + Matchbox as well |
| 17:27.51 | RP | with a 2.4 kernel :-/ |
| 17:28.03 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: everything they can sell for $$$ is included in the MVista portfolio |
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| 17:29.09 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: it runs gaim as well |
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| 17:57.04 | dmit | hmm, what does gnu-configize do at all?... |
| 18:00.39 | kergoth | it just updates the local confjig.guess and config.sub in a source tree to the latest |
| 18:02.41 | dmit | thanx |
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| 18:47.00 | woglinde | hi |
| 18:47.14 | woglinde | which bitbake should I use now 1.2.1 or form subversion? |
| 18:47.45 | koen | doesn't really matter |
| 18:47.50 | koen | svn is best |
| 18:47.58 | woglinde | koen because all are broken? |
| 18:48.43 | koen | what's broken? |
| 18:49.04 | woglinde | no no that was a question |
| 18:49.31 | koen | I'm using the svn version and it works |
| 18:49.40 | woglinde | pkay |
| 18:49.41 | woglinde | okay |
| 18:50.37 | koen | ~lart monkey.org |
| 19:07.11 | Cwiiis | Anyone here had much experience with static linking in gtk apps? |
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| 19:12.53 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: ERROR: see log in Tempory directory within the WORKDIR/log.do_patchcmd.8994 |
| 19:12.57 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: look familiar? |
| 19:13.21 | koen | CosmicPenguin: bk pull |
| 19:13.45 | koen | CosmicPenguin: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/cset@1.3341?nav=index.html|ChangeSet@-7d |
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| 19:14.37 | koen | that fixes the error |
| 19:14.49 | koen | the cset after that corrects the typo :) |
| 19:14.58 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, yeah - you need to actually copy the right directory name before you build |
| 19:15.05 | CosmicPenguin | otherwise, shit doesn't work so well |
| 19:15.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:15.16 | CosmicPenguin | Personally, I blame bitkeeper |
| 19:15.18 | zecke | :} |
| 19:15.30 | zecke | it should have pushed the changes to your disk? |
| 19:15.35 | kergoth | hmm.. food.. |
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| 19:23.54 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh - thar she goes |
| 19:24.05 | CosmicPenguin | Now, lets see if the xfce changes worked |
| 19:26.00 | koen | ~dict flapjack |
| 19:26.23 | koen | crap |
| 19:26.30 | koen | now i'm hungry again |
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| 19:39.19 | TimRiker | getting started has: svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake is there a version for folks behind proxies? |
| 19:40.02 | TimRiker | ie: my machine can't do DNS for hosts outside. just internal boxen. |
| 19:40.38 | koen | ~nslookup svn.berlios.de |
| 19:40.57 | Crofton | I think there is a tar file somewhere .... |
| 19:41.14 | TimRiker | ok, I could do that obviously, but still firewalled. there isn't an http svn interface for bitbake? |
| 19:41.52 | koen | http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/bbsvn.tar.bz2 |
| 19:41.53 | Crofton | I can't find an email with an address though |
| 19:41.55 | Crofton | ~logs |
| 19:41.56 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 19:42.31 | Crofton | TimRiker, complain about the lack of omap5912osk support in OE :) |
| 19:43.04 | kergoth | TimRiker: i dont think there is an http interface for berlios svn -> https://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=2701 |
| 19:43.05 | koen | thou shalt not combine cpu and dsp |
| 19:43.15 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:43.29 | Crofton | TI must be made up of sinners :) |
| 19:43.46 | Crofton | thou shalt not run general purpose OS on DSP |
| 19:43.58 | koen | actually I like the omap design |
| 19:44.17 | Crofton | I can run opie on the OSK :) |
| 19:44.23 | koen | it looks like it's designed by EEs instead of CS people |
| 19:44.30 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:44.50 | Crofton | we are working on something called the software communications architecture |
| 19:44.50 | koen | "we can do that with mmx, lets add that" |
| 19:44.54 | koen | ~lart intel |
| 19:45.06 | Crofton | which looks like it was designed by CS people |
| 19:45.33 | Crofton | all these box and arrow diagrams |
| 19:46.53 | TimRiker | Crofton: there is a port of uclinux for some dsp's. not sure if a 5912 dsp port was ever done. |
| 19:47.02 | zecke | koen: we need to reuse our trademark... (mmx) |
| 19:47.20 | zecke | TimRiker: just try http instead of svn |
| 19:47.24 | koen | "oh, let's call it 'wireless'" |
| 19:47.33 | TimRiker | zecke: tried that.. |
| 19:47.43 | zecke | TimRiker: http? |
| 19:47.45 | zecke | https even |
| 19:47.49 | koen | TimRiker: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/bbsvn.tar.bz2 |
| 19:47.57 | koen | latest svn in a neato tarball :) |
| 19:48.03 | TimRiker | svn co http://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake / svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/' / svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.berlios.de) |
| 19:48.26 | TimRiker | koen: thanx. I'm trying to get live checkouts working first. |
| 19:48.49 | zecke | kergoth: where is the difference between MIT/X and the traditional BSD license? Specially in regard to 'binary form' |
| 19:48.55 | koen | doesn't svn have a 'proto' switch? |
| 19:48.58 | TimRiker | svn: PROPFIND of '/bitbake/trunk/bitbake': Could not create SSL connection through proxy server (https://svn.berlios.de) |
| 19:52.16 | koen | by exploiting the HT/openssl bug? |
| 19:52.56 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 19:53.26 | TimRiker | well, ssh should work for a registered developer. I'm not one though. ;-/ |
| 19:54.11 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: is your .subversion/servers file set up correctly? |
| 19:54.46 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: setup for http, yes. I don't see any config to tell it to use http proxies for svn: access. |
| 19:55.22 | koen | proxychains? |
| 19:58.03 | CosmicPenguin | ahh - I see your problem |
| 19:58.09 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart berlios |
| 19:58.57 | TimRiker | koen: proxychains? |
| 19:59.46 | koen | i saw a post on the ml about people using 'proxychains svn svn://bla" to get bitbake |
| 19:59.56 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart webdav |
| 20:00.03 | CosmicPenguin | What a stupid ass protocol |
| 20:00.29 | koen | CosmicPenguin: yeah, and osx support sucks |
| 20:00.47 | koen | unless you convince your share is idisk.apple.com |
| 20:01.21 | TimRiker | koen: thanx. |
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| 20:12.02 | TimRiker | proxychains didn't work. tranconnect worked though. |
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| 20:21.35 | TimRiker | any plans to move off of bk now? that's the next hurdle I'm fighting. |
| 20:22.13 | zecke | TimRiker: Sometime we will for sure |
| 20:22.24 | RP | TimRiker: by 1st July... :) |
| 20:22.42 | TimRiker | know to what? |
| 20:22.57 | TimRiker | or waiting to see where linux goes? |
| 20:23.30 | RP | cogito is a contender. I've heard svk, monotone, baz etc all mentioned |
| 20:23.50 | RP | It won't be cvs :) |
| 20:24.09 | koen | svk is svn with lots o'perl |
| 20:25.02 | RP | I think there was a problem with svk. Can't remember what though |
| 20:25.10 | CosmicPenguin | perl? |
| 20:26.39 | koen | . It is written in Perl and is using Subversion's underlying filesystem. |
| 20:26.46 | koen | http://svk.elixus.org/?SVKAbout |
| 20:27.21 | kergoth | i use svk every day |
| 20:32.01 | koen | do you like it? |
| 20:32.35 | kergoth | it works very well. its star merge capability is handy. it can work with upstream svn or cvs repositories atm. |
| 20:32.41 | kergoth | what i like most is that upstream can just stay svn |
| 20:32.44 | kergoth | no server side changes |
| 20:32.54 | kergoth | so you can pull down local mirrors of lots of existing projects and work against them |
| 20:33.13 | kergoth | i dont like that its perl, and sometimes it isnt as fast as it could be |
| 20:33.40 | kergoth | okay i used to use it every day, when i was actually doing project work :) |
| 20:33.54 | CosmicPenguin | touche |
| 20:34.39 | zecke | good nite |
| 20:34.48 | kergoth | night |
| 20:35.28 | koen | 'night zecke |
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| 20:51.38 | reenoo_ | evening |
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| 20:52.52 | zecke | is anyone familiar with security and python? |
| 20:53.22 | zecke | kergoth: would you think it is possible to not always evaluate every function for every task? |
| 20:53.47 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 20:54.25 | zecke | kergoth: for example I've a do_install() { A="${@call_func(d)}" } |
| 20:54.44 | zecke | kergoth: when emitting the script for the do_compile task, do Install gets completely evaluated |
| 20:54.57 | zecke | kergoth: would we win anything not evaluating other functions? |
| 20:55.59 | kergoth | zecke: you cant guarantee that somewhere in the do_compile it wont call do_install. it shouldnt, bujt that isnt guaranteed, because all the functions in the datastore are emitted into every shell script. |
| 20:56.09 | kergoth | as things stand today, you couldnt make that change. things could be relying on it |
| 20:56.24 | zecke | kergoth: some easy heuristic should work |
| 20:56.42 | kergoth | have you profiled it? |
| 20:56.50 | zecke | kergoth: no :) |
| 20:57.05 | kergoth | then stop trying to optimize and go measure :P |
| 20:57.39 | zecke | kergoth: I'm just asking. I've some older java code to track such deps across methods |
| 20:57.56 | zecke | kergoth: I just want to use it somewhere after my uni project was canned |
| 20:57.57 | kergoth | so now you want to write a shell script parser? |
| 20:58.10 | zecke | kergoth: no ;) |
| 20:58.34 | kergoth | then how do you plan on getting to those deps? you cant know if one shell function calls another without parsing the function |
| 20:58.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:59.19 | zecke | kergoth: I don't know if it is a bottle-neck (- right) so just blindly assuming it is one is not right. I agree with that |
| 20:59.33 | zecke | kergoth: but currently I've so many ideas floating around... |
| 20:59.39 | kergoth | well, even if it is, i doubt the performance win would be worth the cost in development time |
| 20:59.44 | zecke | bitbake is the dope I needed |
| 20:59.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:00.20 | offroadgeek | zecke: someone told be to speak with you about your tinderbox ideas... |
| 21:00.30 | zecke | offroadgeek: right |
| 21:00.41 | koen | mmmm... tinderbox |
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| 21:00.59 | offroadgeek | zecke: well I have a quad zeon box just sitting around doing nothing... thought it could be put to good use |
| 21:01.18 | offroadgeek | I could buy extra scsi storage if it needs it |
| 21:01.30 | zecke | offroadgeek: nice. I plan to do many things and we can't have enough tinder-clients |
| 21:01.51 | zecke | offroadgeek: plans go from checking if patches apply, source is still fetchable (limited by your bandwidth) |
| 21:02.09 | offroadgeek | zecke: good... the offer is always open.. just let me know when you need me to turn it up |
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| 21:02.31 | zecke | offroadgeek: to do post-commit compiling of packages for specefic targets... |
| 21:02.32 | offroadgeek | it's on a 768/up dsl line at home |
| 21:02.33 | lardman | RP: ping |
| 21:02.35 | zecke | offroadgeek: daily builds... |
| 21:02.58 | zecke | offroadgeek: My problem is I'm not too familiar with the whole tinderbox stuff and it is perl |
| 21:03.22 | offroadgeek | zecke: gotcha... I'll start reading up on it if you'd like |
| 21:03.41 | zecke | offroadgeek: I know we need to write a bitkeeper fetcher for our tinderbox |
| 21:03.58 | zecke | offroadgeek: also we now have a bitbake_qa module that holds tests a tinderbox could run |
| 21:04.12 | lardman | RP: I have reproducable suspend issues with 2.6.12 (from today) |
| 21:04.46 | lardman | RP: basically if you suspend using the hw on/off button, you can't resume - you just come back to the kernel message screen |
| 21:04.50 | zecke | offroadgeek: I'll write some more tests and try to setup a tinderbox server + client at home |
| 21:04.59 | zecke | offroadgeek: and then I really would like to get back to you |
| 21:05.09 | offroadgeek | zecke: ok... I was just about to rebuilt it with debian sarge... will that do? |
| 21:05.29 | zecke | offroadgeek: any distro should do (even Solaris10 or FreeBSD) |
| 21:06.02 | offroadgeek | zecke: ok... well I'm most familiar with debian.. so I'll stick with that |
| 21:06.02 | zecke | from a security point of view FreeBSD or Solaris might be better suited :} |
| 21:06.19 | koen | openbsd! |
| 21:06.35 | koen | sandal |
| 21:06.38 | offroadgeek | zecke: it could even be a box that you run completely... totally up to you |
| 21:06.54 | zecke | *quad* *my* *own* |
| 21:07.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:07.40 | koen | zecke: if you could make a list of needed test configs we could figure out how many machines we need and how to tie it all together |
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| 21:09.21 | RP | lardman: Its not reproducable as it doesn't happen here :-/ |
| 21:09.51 | zecke | koen: will do |
| 21:11.42 | lardman | RP: :) fair enough |
| 21:11.55 | lardman | RP: Perhaps a C750 w/ GPE peculiarity then |
| 21:12.23 | RP | lardman: Admittedly I am using opie atm |
| 21:12.28 | lardman | RP: apm -s works, so I'll be using that for the time being |
| 21:12.45 | RP | apm -s works? That's not kernel then... |
| 21:12.59 | RP | Or maybe the key repeat is screwing something up? |
| 21:13.15 | RP | Try pressing the button very sharply to avoid any repeat |
| 21:13.23 | lardman | RP: no idea - I was going to ask where to start looking |
| 21:13.32 | lardman | RP: ok, hang on a tick |
| 21:13.54 | lardman | RP: yep, that seemed to work |
| 21:14.38 | lardman | RP: except that now the button itsn't recognised at all - I can hold it down and no effect |
| 21:14.51 | lardman | RP: at least it'll force me to use apm -s I suppose ;) |
| 21:15.07 | lardman | RP: Ah, no it's not that |
| 21:15.31 | lardman | RP: I just tried apm -s and I get "apm: Device or resource busy" |
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| 21:16.01 | RP | The hardware button won't be working for the same reason. Some driver is blocking suspend requests |
| 21:16.27 | lardman | This is a vanilla gpe-image from this afternoon - I've not had a chance to install anything |
| 21:17.01 | RP | lardman: I meant kernel driver |
| 21:17.14 | RP | lardman: Have you anything in the SD/CF slots? |
| 21:17.32 | lardman | RP: yep, a CF card |
| 21:17.50 | RP | memory? |
| 21:17.54 | RP | or wifi? |
| 21:18.02 | lardman | Memory |
| 21:18.10 | lardman | just removed it and no difference |
| 21:18.20 | zecke | nite |
| 21:18.26 | koen | 'nigh all |
| 21:18.30 | lardman | good night |
| 21:18.37 | RP | Once the power management is screwed up, you'll probably have to reboot it :-/ |
| 21:18.43 | RP | 'night zecke |
| 21:18.46 | lardman | Ok, a CF issue? |
| 21:18.52 | reenoo_ | 'night zecke |
| 21:18.53 | RP | and koen|sleep :) |
| 21:19.07 | lardman | We'll know in a minute |
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| 21:22.19 | lardman | RP: out of interest do you get ircomm_tty: Unknown sysmbol warnings on boot? |
| 21:22.38 | lardman | RP: Just wondering if an extra ir module needs to be added to the gpe-image |
| 21:23.10 | RP | lardman: I don't remember seeing them but that doesn't mean I don't |
| 21:23.30 | lardman | RP: I just see them alot these days ;) |
| 21:23.54 | lardman | Right, apm -s worked, hw suspend (short key press didn't) |
| 21:24.03 | lardman | now stuck back on the kernel messages screen |
| 21:24.03 | RP | It does sound like some module is missing which is quite likely |
| 21:24.44 | RP | What about a slightly longer keypress ? |
| 21:25.02 | RP | The sticking on the kernel messages screen sounds like a gpe problem |
| 21:25.03 | lardman | I think it's dead - sqsrq isn't doing anything |
| 21:25.12 | RP | ah :-/ |
| 21:25.25 | lardman | Home & rh jap key? |
| 21:25.39 | lardman | it's come back now |
| 21:25.54 | RP | rh jap, then Home, release jap then press a letter |
| 21:26.06 | RP | So it just locks up for a short while? |
| 21:26.24 | lardman | I have to do jap, then home, hold both and press key all at once |
| 21:26.38 | lardman | anyway, poweroff isn't interested |
| 21:26.41 | lardman | time for a reboot |
| 21:26.54 | RP | That often fails for me unless I release the jap key |
| 21:27.17 | lardman | So what to try now? A slightly longer keypress on the on/off key? |
| 21:27.22 | RP | The thing is, the hardware power key (on the back) is near enough hardcoded to trigger an apm -s equivalent |
| 21:27.43 | RP | On kernel drivers can abort that |
| 21:27.51 | RP | Only kernel... |
| 21:28.02 | lardman | I see |
| 21:28.04 | RP | (as the apm scripts are broken in that regard) |
| 21:28.28 | lardman | so if I can apm -s, but not use the hw key then it's def. kernel related, otherwise could be something else |
| 21:29.24 | RP | I can't see any way apm -s can work when the hw key doesn't. Unless the input system is completely fried... |
| 21:29.41 | lardman | no, I was just thorising |
| 21:29.48 | lardman | theorising even |
| 21:29.51 | RP | When you press the hw key, do you see any messages on the console |
| 21:29.53 | RP | ? |
| 21:30.10 | lardman | yes, the same as a normal apm -s |
| 21:30.24 | RP | do you see "power.c: requesting system suspend" ? |
| 21:30.28 | lardman | just managed a hw susp & resume |
| 21:30.36 | lardman | no, I don't think so |
| 21:30.43 | lardman | somehting to do with mci_corgi |
| 21:30.44 | lardman | ? |
| 21:31.00 | lardman | corgi_mci_setpower |
| 21:31.07 | RP | You should see a power.c message or messages whenever you use the hw button |
| 21:31.13 | RP | maybe look in dmesg |
| 21:31.15 | lardman | and I2C: Slave address |
| 21:31.31 | lardman | yes, dmesg shows power.c |
| 21:31.56 | RP | You should see that every time you press the hw button. That means apm -s is getting issued |
| 21:32.06 | lardman | however, after my successful suspend & resume using the on/off key, I have device busy again |
| 21:32.28 | lardman | yes it is |
| 21:32.42 | lardman | although I don't get a suspend, I get a message in dmesg |
| 21:33.04 | RP | If apm -s is aborting, the hw button will be as well |
| 21:33.14 | RP | The question is what is triggering the abort |
| 21:33.16 | lardman | I just got "apm: an event queue overflowed" |
| 21:33.37 | lardman | so how should I go about tracking it down? |
| 21:33.50 | RP | Too many events have been queued.... |
| 21:34.09 | RP | Did you have a lot of lines beginning "power.c" as if the key repeat was playing up? |
| 21:34.32 | lardman | Only one or two starting power.c - not as many as on/off key presses |
| 21:35.01 | lardman | to do with device-level power management |
| 21:35.14 | lardman | But one power: line per keypress I think |
| 21:35.55 | lardman | Hmm |
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| 21:36.17 | lardman | apm -s doesn't add any more power: requesting system suspend lines ... |
| 21:36.33 | RP | No, apm-s wouldn't. Thats normal |
| 21:36.46 | lardman | the hw button adds lots - about 6 for a longish press |
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| 21:37.06 | RP | I need to fix the key repeat |
| 21:37.21 | RP | Perhaps its that and a gpe bug of some sort |
| 21:37.46 | lardman | That would make sense if the repeat is messing it up somehow |
| 21:37.57 | lardman | but it ought to ignore repeats surely? |
| 21:38.21 | RP | they make it into the apm queue which can get confused. |
| 21:38.29 | RP | It needs fixing |
| 21:38.35 | lardman | even a very quick press adds two events |
| 21:38.51 | lardman | I can't press the button much faster than that and know I've done it |
| 21:39.06 | RP | If they're different lines of text, that's normal |
| 21:39.14 | lardman | yes they are |
| 21:39.27 | lardman | but more than one? |
| 21:39.37 | RP | One's system level, the other is device level which is ignored |
| 21:39.49 | Ken|JLime | I've set preferred gcc, gcc-cross and gcc-initial but it still grabs gcc-snapshot |
| 21:39.50 | TimRiker | ~nslookup openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 21:39.56 | lardman | ah, ok - the same message: power: requesting ... |
| 21:40.36 | RP | I'll look into a fix for the key repeat and we'll take it from there |
| 21:40.54 | lardman | Cool, thanks, I'll be online tomorrow if you want any testing done |
| 21:41.02 | lardman | Thanks for your help |
| 21:41.26 | lardman | Night |
| 21:42.48 | TimRiker | LD_PRELOAD=~/.tconn/tconn.so bk_client-1.1/sfioball bk://192.132.92.3/openembedded openembedded / ERROR-cannot cd to openembedded (illegal, nonexistant, or not package root) |
| 21:43.05 | TimRiker | thoughts? |
| 21:51.18 | kergoth | TimRiker: hmm thats odd, perhaps it relies on the hostname for identification, ala vhosts? could try adding its entry to /etc/hosts and checking out by name.. |
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| 22:20.55 | tmb|away | is there anything good/bad for the powerpc patches which i sent to the mailing list? i really wish to see them in OE |
| 22:24.54 | TimRiker | kergoth: heh. that's what I tried next. now it just creates and empty openembedded directory. |
| 22:25.20 | RP | mickey|away: ping |
| 22:25.24 | kergoth | odd |
| 22:25.59 | kergoth | TimRiker: i've done a checkout of oe from behind ti's proxy using sfioball before, but iirc openembedded.bkbits.net was quirky at hte time. try bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net/oepenembedded perhaps |
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| 22:31.39 | Ken|JLime | It keep using the gcc-snapshot-cross when i want a specific gcc-cross version, how do i define that? |
| 22:34.09 | kergoth | you set your preferred providers. even the local.conf.sample covers that exact one |
| 22:36.31 | Ken|JLime | I've set preferred providers but it still doesnt comply |
| 22:38.43 | kergoth | then you probably havent set them correctly |
| 22:38.49 | kergoth | put your local.conf somewhere for us to check |
| 22:39.13 | Ken|JLime | yeah, im guessing that much, gonna check the sample file first for something obvious |
| 22:41.36 | Ken|JLime | Think i found it, :) going for test round |
| 22:41.43 | Ken|JLime | i really need a faster compiling machine |
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| 23:07.00 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: you here? |
| 23:11.04 | CosmicPenguin | nm |
| 23:12.34 | CosmicPenguin | The libxfce4mcs tarball is missing some files |
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| 23:32.14 | CosmicPenguin | hmm..... |
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