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| 06:37.42 | uv1 | Morning all |
| 06:37.48 | uv1 | RP, are you there ? |
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| 07:13.40 | robert__ | hi.everyone |
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| 07:45.22 | XorA | morning |
| 07:50.22 | RP | morning all |
| 07:50.36 | RP | uv1: I am now |
| 07:55.01 | hrw|work | hello |
| 07:55.14 | RP | morning hrw|work |
| 07:58.50 | XorA | RP: did I see talk of a memory light version of BB last week? |
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| 08:14.37 | uv1 | Morning RP |
| 08:15.38 | uv1 | As I said, if I have the corgi_power-r21 in the line, it works, but nor with r22 (just the second 2 is new, the rest stays). This is strange. |
| 08:17.46 | uv1 | RP: I observered one other item. If alarm comes up and the device is just in "DisplayOff" mode, the background light is not switched on automatically. The alarm is hearable though (if loud). Is this a kernel issue or a opie issue ? |
| 08:18.52 | subdue | there are some opie and apm issues |
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| 08:28.27 | RP | XorA: You did. zecke is working on it |
| 08:28.53 | RP | uv1: That is an opie issue |
| 08:29.09 | RP | I can't understand bitbake not working with the r22 :-/ |
| 08:32.16 | subdue | if desparate, comment out the apm line in /etc/device_table (warning, alarms and a few other things wont work if you do that) dont forget to reboot |
| 08:33.04 | hrw|work | subdue: its not #openzaurus channel |
| 08:33.13 | subdue | oops |
| 08:33.17 | subdue | wrong chan reply, sorry :) |
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| 08:38.25 | uv1 | RP: Also the battery seems to be very good, or the percentage calc is NOT. My CL860 is now since approx. 45 mins in 100% CPU load, but battery still stays on 94 %. |
| 08:38.42 | uv1 | RP: Did you also have the probs with r22 ? |
| 08:48.23 | RP | uv1: Someone really needs to do a lock cpu at 100%, backlight on full and turn on the logging (msglevel=2 will do that now). We then need to plot the battery voltage with time |
| 08:48.47 | RP | That will show us if the percentages are accurate. If they're not, we can adjust them. |
| 08:49.01 | RP | I didn't have any problem adding the r22 patch to bitbake |
| 08:49.13 | hrw|work | RP: how to set that msglevel? |
| 08:49.46 | RP | echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/corgi-battery/msglevel |
| 08:49.49 | hrw|work | RP: and can it be logged into file on cf card? I can run that test on my husky |
| 08:50.03 | hrw|work | first will charge it to 100% |
| 08:50.18 | RP | hrw|work: It dumps the data to the console via a printk :-/ |
| 08:50.45 | hrw|work | RP: so logread -f|tee /media/cf/dump.txt should work |
| 08:50.58 | RP | hrw|work: yes, something like that |
| 08:51.16 | hrw|work | ok. charging |
| 08:51.22 | RP | hrw|work: If you are going to do this, could you use a kernel with the corgi_power-r22 patch pelase? |
| 08:51.37 | hrw|work | RP: is it possible to look how charged battery is when AC plugged? |
| 08:51.39 | RP | This patch is a massive cleanup and the logging will be much clearer |
| 08:51.42 | hrw|work | ok - will build it |
| 08:52.10 | RP | hrw|work: With corgi_power-r22, it does try and give a percentage charged estimate |
| 08:52.22 | RP | Again, it probably needs calibrating |
| 08:53.03 | RP | hrw|work: I'll update the .bbs with the new patch name... |
| 08:55.08 | hrw|work | 2.6.12-rc? |
| 08:55.59 | RP | hrw|work: It will apply to both 2.6.11 and 2.6.12-rc |
| 08:56.17 | hrw|work | ok. which one you prefer to check? |
| 08:58.30 | RP | I'm actively using 2.6.12-rc but it makes no real difference |
| 08:58.45 | hrw|work | ok |
| 08:59.06 | hrw|work | will check on 2.6.11 |
| 08:59.28 | hrw|work | RP: it will be 2.6.11-r19 with corgi-power-r22 |
| 09:01.07 | RP | hrw|work: That's fine |
| 09:01.54 | CIA-9 | 03RP 07 * r1.3283.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (10 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Update to 2.6.12-rc3-mm3, Update corgi power patch, Updates to hx2750 code (esp tsc2101 driver). |
| 09:02.04 | mithro | so where are you all located? |
| 09:02.18 | hrw|work | mithro: geographically? |
| 09:02.31 | RP | mithro: northeast England (UK) |
| 09:02.52 | XorA | mithro: Edinburgh Scotland |
| 09:03.10 | hrw|work | mithro: Poznan in Poland |
| 09:04.10 | RP | mithro: Which bit of Europe? |
| 09:04.16 | mithro | got a month to travel from Amsterdam to Stockholm |
| 09:05.29 | mithro | so I'm planning to fly in and slowly travel up to Stockholm by train |
| 09:05.34 | robert__ | it is nice |
| 09:05.44 | uv1 | mithro: This is quit boaring, all the way is See. Will you do that in a small boat ? |
| 09:06.03 | uv1 | s/See/sea/ |
| 09:08.07 | mithro | i'm thinking of heading down through belgium and germany and then back up through denmark and into sweden |
| 09:09.26 | mithro | ljp: know that :P |
| 09:10.49 | uv1 | mithro: If you come accross Aachen (which I assume), we possibly could drink a beer or few bottles of good red wine together ;-) |
| 09:11.22 | mithro | where is Aachen |
| 09:11.26 | RP | mithro: Sounds like fun. I've never been to most of those places :) |
| 09:11.53 | hrw|work | mithro: germany |
| 09:12.10 | uv1 | mithro: So you're US I assume ;-)) |
| 09:12.15 | mithro | nope |
| 09:12.52 | RP | One of those upsidedown people with the corks on the hat ;-) |
| 09:13.10 | uv1 | mithro: Nice region. Have been there for hollidays 3 times now. Good wine, good foor, australian lifestyle. Which I could be there ... |
| 09:13.22 | uv1 | s/foor/food/ |
| 09:13.37 | uv1 | s/Which/Wish/ |
| 09:14.02 | mithro | it's pretty hot in the summer here however :P |
| 09:14.22 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:14.32 | RP | morning ade|desk |
| 09:14.40 | uv1 | RP: Still have problems to get the patch downloaded from RPSRC. Interested in investigation ? |
| 09:15.18 | mithro | so where do people recommend I go :P |
| 09:15.24 | RP | uv1: I've just updated the bitbake file with that patch. I'd suggest pulling those updates and seeing whether that works |
| 09:15.29 | XorA | RP: pxa_irda-r1.patch fails with that latest changeset you just put in |
| 09:15.49 | RP | XorA: Ah, try -r2 :) |
| 09:16.55 | uv1 | RP: Nothing to pull ? Just did it a few mins ago, but did not have linux-openzaurus_2.6.11.bb updated. So whats now ? |
| 09:17.46 | RP | uv1: set your bk parent to bk://oe-devel@oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 09:17.53 | RP | uv1: Just don' |
| 09:17.57 | RP | uv1: Just don't clone from there |
| 09:18.23 | RP | uv1: Also check your sources directory for 0 byte sized files |
| 09:19.01 | uv1 | RP: How to do that (parent)? |
| 09:19.56 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 09:19.58 | uv1 | RP: No 0 sized files in sources. |
| 09:20.56 | RP | uv1: bk parent bk:/.... |
| 09:21.36 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 09:22.03 | uv1 | RP: And what then ? "bk pull; bk -r co -q" or just "bk pull" ? |
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| 09:23.20 | uv1 | RP: oe-devels PWD ? |
| 09:23.50 | hrw|work | uv1: bk parent bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 09:23.59 | hrw|work | and it wont ask for pass |
| 09:24.44 | uv1 | hrw|work: Thanks, just "bk pull" ? |
| 09:25.04 | RP | uv1: sorry, yes, remove the oe-devel@, then do the pull and bk -r co -q as normal |
| 09:26.26 | do13 | Hi |
| 09:26.28 | do13 | RP: Do you have 2.6.12-rc4 running |
| 09:26.53 | RP | do13: I have 2.6.12-rc4 running but 2.6.12-rc4-mm1 doesn't work |
| 09:27.16 | do13 | I guess: Can't load libs? |
| 09:27.36 | RP | do13: No, it was crashing with some timer problem |
| 09:27.41 | RP | I posted to LKML about it |
| 09:28.35 | RP | do13: http://seclists.org/lists/linux-kernel/2005/May/2830.html |
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| 09:29.47 | BigAl | RP: I've got some new spitz patches, both CF slots are working now too. |
| 09:30.15 | RP | BigAl: Sounds good :). If you point me at the patches, I' |
| 09:30.23 | RP | I'll add the to the .bb file |
| 09:30.42 | hrw|work | ~lart emte for e recipes |
| 09:31.00 | RP | do13: I noitce rc4-mm2 is out now so perhaps I should try that... |
| 09:31.14 | do13 | RP: You can also add the tosa patches: http://www.do13.in-berlin.de/openzaurus/tosa2.6.patch |
| 09:31.19 | BigAl | RP: http://www.orca.cx/zaurus/patches |
| 09:31.48 | do13 | RP: I have the samer |
| 09:31.53 | BigAl | RP: The ones to add would be spitz-cf-support, spitz-base-r1 |
| 09:32.17 | do13 | RP: I the same crash. Bu before there is /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted ! |
| 09:32.17 | do13 | ries: libc.so.6: cannot create shared object descriptor |
| 09:32.17 | do13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.31 | uv1 | RP: Same result. corgi_power-r22.patch is not downloaded somehow. If I change to corgi_power-r21, it works. There must be difference between r22 and r21. Pending balnk in filename, access rights? |
| 09:32.42 | BigAl | RP: The spitz-detection patch assumes you've got the tosa detection one installed, and there's one for spitz and tosa there too. I can make one for spitz alone if that'd be better. |
| 09:33.02 | hrw|work | uv1: I got r22 |
| 09:33.16 | XorA | uv1: Ive just downloadedf -r22 here |
| 09:33.57 | RP | BigAl: Assuming Tosa is there is the best way forward |
| 09:34.26 | RP | BigAl: I'll have a look at them shortly and add them in. |
| 09:34.52 | RP | do13: You're just using one tosa patch now? |
| 09:35.17 | uv1 | hrw|work: I just did a "-b ...2.6.11.bb -f - clean", "-b ...2.6.11.bb" I assume, that has to download the patch ? |
| 09:35.19 | do13 | RP: No this patch is against the bb file |
| 09:35.28 | RP | do13: Does that just happen for you on rc4-mm1 or on rc4 as well? |
| 09:35.31 | BigAl | RP: Okies |
| 09:35.40 | RP | do13: Ah, right, that's great, thanks :) |
| 09:35.57 | RP | do13: I thought you were going to copy John for a minute there! ;-) |
| 09:36.12 | do13 | ;-) |
| 09:36.59 | hrw|work | uv1: I edited recipe to get r22 - not updated yet to latest OE |
| 09:37.57 | RP | uv1: I can't see any permissions or filename problems and can download it fine... (I use the same method you do). It must be some local problem... |
| 09:38.14 | RP | Try deleting the file from the sources directory |
| 09:38.27 | XorA | RP: and the .md5 part as well |
| 09:38.27 | uv1 | hrw|work: Did that before with no success either. Still do not understand, why r21 works, while r22 does not. BTW, if downloaded by FireFox, I get that file as well. |
| 09:38.50 | uv1 | RP: I thought the patch file is not in source, but loaded on demand !? |
| 09:39.30 | RP | uv1: If it exists in sources it will use that, if not, it will download it |
| 09:39.42 | uv1 | RP: Delete 2.6.11.tar.gz* ? ... |
| 09:40.16 | RP | uv1: corgi_power* |
| 09:41.18 | mithro | well i'm back |
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| 09:48.21 | uv1 | RP: For some strange reason only the r22 md5 file was there. If I remember right, I did the first bitbake with a buggy edited r22 line. It works now, thanks all ... |
| 09:49.04 | uv1 | RP: BTW CL860 is still on 100 CPU (since approx. 2 hours now), Battery still at 83 %. |
| 09:49.31 | mithro | uv1: how long does it normally last? |
| 09:49.41 | hrw|work | ok. got 100% charge |
| 09:50.12 | hrw|work | shit.. 96% now |
| 09:51.22 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 09:51.29 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 09:51.46 | hrw|work | RP: msglevel is WO? (write only) |
| 09:51.58 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 09:52.36 | mickeyl | hrw|work: i fixed y^hour problem |
| 09:52.44 | hrw|work | mickeyl: WE V0? |
| 09:52.50 | mickeyl | hrw|work: ya. |
| 09:52.59 | hrw|work | cool |
| 09:53.00 | RP | hrw|work: It shouldn't be! try chmod'ing it +w... |
| 09:53.02 | mickeyl | ~lart wifi drivers in general |
| 09:53.03 | hrw|work | what was it? |
| 09:53.31 | mickeyl | hostap suddenly decided to respond with invalid argument length when querying status information. |
| 09:53.31 | hrw|work | RP: its 644. I did "echo 2>msglevel" and cat msglevel show 0 |
| 09:53.41 | mickeyl | i had to adjust the buffer once again |
| 09:53.56 | mickeyl | the problem is... wlan-ng needs a short buffer, hostap needs a large buffer |
| 09:53.57 | RP | hrw|work: Is it showing debug in dmesg? |
| 09:54.04 | uv1 | mithro: I never tested that. |
| 09:54.06 | mickeyl | virtually impossible to get the length right to work with all drivers |
| 09:54.15 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 09:54.21 | mickeyl | lets see for which driver i broke it now :) |
| 09:54.32 | mickeyl | s/driver/driver or kernel version/ |
| 09:54.34 | hrw|work | RP: last one was "Charge LED Off" and battery dropped from 96 to 94 since then |
| 09:54.54 | RP | hrw|work: It should be showing something every 5 seconds or so |
| 09:55.07 | uv1 | Have to leave for lunch now. Will be back this afternoon. Bye .... |
| 09:55.09 | RP | (I plan to decrease that rate once the power code is stable) |
| 09:55.30 | mickeyl | bon appetit uv1 |
| 09:55.43 | hrw|work | heh... |
| 09:56.07 | hrw|work | RP: got it finally |
| 09:56.16 | RP | hrw|work: What was the problem? |
| 09:57.00 | hrw|work | maybe "echo 2>msglevel" or "cd /sys/..../corgi-battery/;echo 2>msglevel" - did "echo 2 >FULL_PATH" and it works |
| 09:57.06 | hrw|work | have to charge to 100% back |
| 09:57.45 | hrw|work | now have 98% |
| 10:02.40 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3309 10openembedded/packages/thc/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added packages/thc/ dir for stuff from http://thc.org/, moved hydra and thcrut into it. |
| 10:05.30 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3305.1.1 10openembedded/conf/distro/ (preferred-e-versions.inc openzaurus-3.5.4.conf): bump openzaurus-3.5.4 and lock down our e packages to my working versions through preferred-e-versions.inc |
| 10:06.11 | subdue | anyone in charge of kstars here? |
| 10:06.19 | mickeyl | not really |
| 10:06.43 | mickeyl | it was merely an exercise to get it built, since it isn't usable on embedded systems at all |
| 10:07.48 | subdue | it works. (a bit slow, but it works) |
| 10:07.56 | subdue | only problem was in creating directories |
| 10:08.24 | subdue | during installation: /opt/QtPalmtop/share/apps/kstars <= it couldn't create directories this deep |
| 10:08.29 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3311 10openembedded/conf/distro/familiar-0.9.0.conf: familiar-0.9.0.conf: include preferred-e-versions.inc, courtesy Buildmeister Lauer |
| 10:08.38 | mickeyl | koen: :) |
| 10:08.40 | subdue | so it had problems linking |
| 10:08.49 | subdue | once I created the directory, it installed fine |
| 10:08.59 | subdue | opie - 64/0 - collie |
| 10:09.00 | mickeyl | subdue: just this one ? |
| 10:09.05 | subdue | yes |
| 10:09.13 | mickeyl | ok, i'll create that in the ipk then |
| 10:09.18 | subdue | it was nested too deep for it |
| 10:09.44 | subdue | ok |
| 10:10.22 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:10.24 | mickeyl | wait |
| 10:10.37 | mickeyl | that should've worked |
| 10:10.42 | mickeyl | the directory is in the ipk |
| 10:10.48 | mickeyl | ah |
| 10:10.54 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:10.56 | mickeyl | no |
| 10:11.00 | subdue | ? |
| 10:11.17 | hrw|work | RP: ok. got 99% of battery |
| 10:11.21 | mickeyl | it bailed out on installation with opie-packagemanager or ipkg command line? |
| 10:11.23 | subdue | I think it had the problem b/c it didnt create each directory one by one |
| 10:11.30 | subdue | opie |
| 10:11.38 | subdue | package manager |
| 10:11.41 | mickeyl | can you retry with command line? |
| 10:11.45 | mickeyl | it may be a problem in the pm |
| 10:11.48 | subdue | ok |
| 10:12.41 | subdue | I'll try to remove all the directories too |
| 10:13.06 | CIA-9 | 03RP 07 * r1.3310 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Tosa updates from Dirk. Also add preliminary sptiz support under 2.6 - thanks BigAl! |
| 10:13.11 | CIA-9 | 03RP 07 * r1.3309 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.12-rc3-mm3.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Update to later irda patch |
| 10:13.22 | mickeyl | RP: heh |
| 10:13.25 | mickeyl | sptiz ? |
| 10:13.27 | mickeyl | the new Zaurus? |
| 10:13.29 | mickeyl | :D |
| 10:13.36 | hrw|work | C3500 |
| 10:13.39 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 10:13.39 | RP | bah! :) |
| 10:14.27 | RP | BigAl: They're in but it doesn't quite apply. You need to rediff the base support against Dirk's tosa base patch |
| 10:14.58 | hrw|work | heh.. logread -f|tee /media/cf/battery.log.txt is slow in terminal |
| 10:15.45 | hrw|work | mickeyl: why opie-sysinfo lack cpumeter? |
| 10:15.54 | koen | koen@c7x0:~$ uname -a ; uptime |
| 10:15.54 | koen | Linux c7x0 2.6.12-rc3-mm2 #1 PREEMPT Thu May 12 12:02:24 CEST 2005 armv5tel unknown |
| 10:15.54 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:16.07 | koen | 2.6.12 is holding up pretty good |
| 10:16.20 | mickeyl | hrw|work: because I'm revamping it a bit |
| 10:16.25 | hrw|work | ah |
| 10:16.26 | mickeyl | hrw|work: new cpumeter will be part of devices tab |
| 10:16.40 | mickeyl | btw. |
| 10:16.48 | mickeyl | all devices correctly identified on your system? |
| 10:16.58 | hrw|work | mickeyl: yes |
| 10:17.02 | mickeyl | ok, good. |
| 10:17.15 | mickeyl | ~lart CPU specific /proc/cpuinfo headers |
| 10:17.17 | hrw|work | mickeyl: useless anyway (20050510) |
| 10:17.45 | mickeyl | ya, i just started it. will take a while to finish it |
| 10:17.59 | RP | koen: That's nice to know. I don't think mine ever sees 3 days as I edit the kernel before then :) |
| 10:18.26 | hrw|work | mickeyl: info about cards should be more detailed |
| 10:18.44 | RP | Do we have any nasty gotchas under 2.6.12 apart from the keyboard rotate switches? |
| 10:19.04 | mickeyl | hrw|work: sure |
| 10:19.30 | hrw|work | hmm.. how to take 100% cpu in pure shell? |
| 10:19.49 | mickeyl | gzip something |
| 10:20.05 | RP | cat /dev/random > /dev/null? |
| 10:20.16 | hrw|work | RP: good idea |
| 10:21.33 | CoreDump|home | urandom might work better |
| 10:22.08 | subdue | hrm. it didnt like installing to my ram |
| 10:22.17 | hrw|work | better source of entropy |
| 10:22.19 | BigAl | RP: I'll check it out. |
| 10:23.04 | CoreDump|home | yep, and generates a higher CPU load IIRC |
| 10:23.08 | hrw|work | ha! 91% now |
| 10:25.33 | subdue | bleh. btw - that error about libstdc++.so.6 still comes up |
| 10:27.21 | hrw|work | subdue: "This is not a distribution support channel" - so you have to be more specific |
| 10:27.37 | subdue | oh sorry, was telling him about kstars |
| 10:27.47 | subdue | he wanted me to try to install it via command line |
| 10:28.10 | subdue | I had mentioned that using pkgmanager it was failing b/c it couldnt create /opt/QtPalmtop/share/apps/kstars |
| 10:28.11 | subdue | ArticleDiscussionEditHistoryMove |
| 10:28.24 | subdue | -ignore article... |
| 10:29.13 | subdue | I'm going to try to start over from scratch to make sure of all the errors |
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| 10:30.16 | subdue | (completely wiping out all the ram) |
| 10:31.35 | mickeyl | k, keep me posted |
| 10:31.44 | mickeyl | leaving for a board game day |
| 10:31.49 | mickeyl | no computers allowed :) |
| 10:31.51 | mickeyl | cya |
| 10:32.03 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3308.2.2 10openembedded/conf/distro/preferred-e-versions.inc: lock down embryo version |
| 10:32.06 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3308.2.1 10openembedded/packages/libpng/ (libpng_1.2.8.bb libpng-native_1.2.8.bb): repeat do_stage() in libpng-native to fix an odd packaging error on some systems |
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| 10:38.34 | lardman|busy | hrw|work: why are you trying to up processor usage? |
| 10:38.51 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: I'm testing battery |
| 10:38.55 | hrw|work | 83% |
| 10:39.16 | lardman|busy | do you want it at 100%? |
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| 10:39.26 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: brightness maxed, cpu maxed, kernel battery messages maxed and logging |
| 10:39.36 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: I have ~100% now |
| 10:40.15 | lardman|busy | ok - I was going to suggest you run something like octave with some looping scripts to make it sit at 100% |
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| 10:42.54 | hrw|work | lardman|busy: cat /dev/urandom>/dev/null did the trick |
| 10:43.12 | lardman|busy | cool |
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| 10:46.13 | hrw|work | 80% |
| 10:49.23 | hrw|work | RP: you will get much more detailed report when my husky will shutdown |
| 10:49.40 | RP | hrw|work: I know, I'm just joking :) |
| 10:49.44 | hrw|work | I know ;) |
| 10:49.53 | hrw|work | ~lart openlogging.org |
| 10:50.09 | koen | zecke|sleep: ping |
| 10:50.23 | hrw|work | takepatch: "packages/opie-calculator/SCCS/s.opie-calculator_cvs.bb" has uncommitted changes. |
| 10:50.27 | hrw|work | Please commit pending changes with `bk commit' and reapply the patch. |
| 10:50.47 | hrw|work | bk commit == unable to connect to openlogging.org == get off |
| 10:50.54 | hrw|work | RP: 76% |
| 10:51.34 | hrw|work | RP: 80% back |
| 10:51.41 | koen | bk diff packages/opie-calculator/opie-calculator_cvs.bb -Nurd > patch1 ; bk unedit packages/opie-calculator/opie-calculator_cvs.bb ; bk pull ; bk patch < patch1 |
| 10:51.42 | RP | ?! |
| 10:52.18 | hrw|work | koen: they are checked in |
| 10:53.17 | CoreDump|home | ipaq.patch breaks libsdl-qpe |
| 10:53.18 | zecke|sleep | koen: pong |
| 10:53.44 | zecke|sleep | CoreDump|home: ohhh |
| 10:53.47 | koen | zecke|sleep: I wanted to try bb_qa, but it bails out with pyton error |
| 10:53.59 | CoreDump|home | break as in: it doesn't apply :) |
| 10:53.59 | zecke|sleep | koen: Read the Fucking Manual ;) |
| 10:54.16 | koen | zecke|sleep: I did :) |
| 10:54.16 | hrw|work | RP: 11:37:25 - 76% 11:37:30 - 80% |
| 10:54.44 | zecke|sleep | CoreDump|home: will look, I've to pick up my honey from the train station later.. |
| 10:54.52 | zecke|sleep | koen: paste me the error |
| 10:54.59 | hrw|work | time for clone wars.. |
| 10:55.06 | zecke|sleep | koen: you need to set BBPATH, PYTHONPATH |
| 10:55.19 | zecke|sleep | koen: edit the sample file in conf/ |
| 10:55.26 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/oe/bbsvn/trunk/bitbake_qa$ set PYTHONPATH=/data/build/oe/bitbake/lib/ ;set BBPATH=/data/build/oe/bbsvn/trunk/bitbake_qa:/data/build/oe/openembedded |
| 10:55.30 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/oe/bbsvn/trunk/bitbake_qa$ bin/bittest |
| 10:55.32 | koen | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 10:55.35 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.37 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.40 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.42 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.45 | koen | ImportError: No module named bb |
| 10:56.17 | zecke|sleep | koen: use PYTHONPATH |
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| 10:56.37 | koen | zecke|sleep: I did that |
| 10:56.42 | koen | see the first line |
| 10:56.47 | RP | hrw|work: I'll be interested to see the log around that jump point... |
| 10:57.00 | RP | hrw|work: Just when its finished the run though |
| 10:57.36 | hrw|work | RP: sure |
| 10:57.43 | hrw|work | RP: 76% now |
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| 11:00.25 | hrw|work | 73 |
| 11:01.01 | zecke | koen: weird |
| 11:01.21 | zecke | koen: and oe/bitbake/lib does hold bb? |
| 11:01.27 | koen | yes |
| 11:01.56 | koen | aha |
| 11:01.59 | koen | s/set/export/ |
| 11:03.05 | zecke | ;) |
| 11:03.08 | koen | zecke: http://pastebin.ca/11880 |
| 11:03.12 | koen | next error |
| 11:03.55 | zecke | koen: yeah you need the patched bitbake |
| 11:04.24 | koen | zecke: that wasn't in the manual :) |
| 11:04.39 | RP | The ide driver model changeover made it into 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 which is nice :) |
| 11:05.01 | BigAl | RP: I've made a new spitz-base patch, it should apply cleanly over the tosa-base one. |
| 11:05.03 | zecke | koen: that is common sense ;) |
| 11:05.14 | koen | zecke: where can I download that? |
| 11:05.16 | koen | ;) |
| 11:05.43 | zecke | koen: look into your oe mailinglist archive |
| 11:06.55 | zecke | To whom it may concern: some version of gtk-industrial vanished |
| 11:07.07 | koen | aargh |
| 11:07.11 | koen | *again* |
| 11:07.36 | koen | zecke: any up to date place for the patches? |
| 11:08.13 | koen | preferably one big patch |
| 11:08.14 | hrw|work | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~freyther/bitbake_patches.tar.bz2 maybe? |
| 11:08.26 | hrw|work | RP: 70% |
| 11:08.44 | koen | hrw|work: that one has the fetcher patch ? |
| 11:09.32 | hrw|work | koen: dont know - just got it from history |
| 11:09.43 | zecke | koen: no that oen doesn't have the fetcher patch |
| 11:14.40 | RP | 2.6.12-rc4-mm2 still gives the same crash :-( |
| 11:17.17 | hrw|work | RP: 65% |
| 11:17.26 | hrw|work | RP: and 70% now |
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| 11:24.51 | hrw|work | RP: and again.. 70-65-70 |
| 11:25.18 | hrw|work | RP: battery voltage=187 - 65%, =188 - 70% |
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| 11:29.34 | hrw|work | 65%-70% is keeping |
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| 11:34.40 | RP | hrw|work: Its 210 |
| 11:34.48 | lardman|busy | Is it mapped linearly? |
| 11:34.55 | hrw|work | 186 = 60% and now I have 60-65-60-65 |
| 11:35.47 | koen | RP: any way to surpress those messages? |
| 11:42.40 | RP | lardman|busy: No, its not linear. Its looks like we have very little range to work with :-/ |
| 11:42.54 | RP | koen: When do you seen them? |
| 11:43.31 | koen | RP: when I kill X and use the console |
| 11:44.14 | RP | koen: Do you know which messages its supressing? |
| 11:44.39 | koen | stuff like IPv6 addrconf: prefix with wrong length 48 |
| 11:44.39 | koen | corgi_mci_setpower: off |
| 11:45.06 | koen | the first one was a rogue radvd on my network |
| 11:45.37 | koen | but it seems a bit backwards to surpress 1 message and print that it has been surpressed |
| 11:45.53 | RP | koen: I've never seen it try and supress them |
| 11:46.07 | RP | I plan to remove the corgi_mci_setpower: off anyway... |
| 11:46.23 | RP | The kernel is a bit too verbose |
| 11:47.30 | koen | oooh, it has console blanking |
| 11:47.31 | hrw|work | I updated gnu-config.patch to today config.guess |
| 11:47.31 | koen | nice |
| 11:47.44 | RP | Why did Sharp wire up this ADC withh such bad measurement range? :-( |
| 11:47.55 | koen | RP: sharp |
| 11:48.11 | RP | 0-100% is 170-210 "volts" :-/ |
| 11:48.42 | koen | 3.4 - 4.2 V? |
| 11:49.49 | hrw|work | NOTE:[13:50] package gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050516: completed |
| 11:49.51 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 11:51.51 | Frederik | is there a way not to have to compile gcc-cross-initial-3.4.3+csl-arm-20050416? |
| 11:52.02 | koen | no |
| 11:52.14 | koen | per definition you need a compiler to compile stuff |
| 11:52.23 | Frederik | makes sense |
| 11:52.32 | koen | it will only get built once |
| 11:52.40 | Frederik | is it normal the compile fails on a chroot debian? |
| 11:52.52 | Frederik | with an internal compiler error |
| 11:52.53 | koen | not that I know off |
| 11:53.02 | hrw|work | ARGH... |
| 11:53.08 | hrw|work | I cannot commit from work ;( |
| 11:53.12 | Frederik | how do I debug that? |
| 11:53.44 | koen | no idea on that |
| 11:54.25 | Frederik | bummer |
| 11:54.39 | XorA | Frederik: I get that sometimes, last occasion was inside gnome-vfs |
| 11:54.45 | RP | 3.2 - 4.0V I think... |
| 11:55.04 | hrw|work | 55% |
| 11:55.10 | Frederik | XorA: and what did you do about it? |
| 11:55.14 | XorA | fR |
| 11:55.34 | hrw|work | Frederik: ICE? try again |
| 11:55.40 | XorA | Frederik: killed the plugin that caused the ice, when some headers moved about a couple of days later, it went away |
| 11:57.42 | Frederik | okay, doesn't sound like something I'm up for... |
| 11:58.10 | Frederik | compile on the iPaq it is in that case |
| 11:58.57 | hrw|work | http://hrw.one.pl/tmp/config-guess-uclibc.patch - someone can push it? it's from packages/gnu-config/gnu-config/ - updated to 20050516 snapshot |
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| 12:08.38 | hrw|work | 37% |
| 12:09.13 | BigAl | Don't you just love the non-linear discharge profile? |
| 12:09.32 | hrw|work | 31% |
| 12:09.43 | B0Ti | maybe his battery is worn out. |
| 12:09.46 | hrw|work | BigAl: I reaaly love it |
| 12:10.03 | hrw|work | btw - screen is flashing from time to time now |
| 12:10.28 | B0Ti | I have a vaio that shows 100% and after 50sec it shuts down without any warning :> |
| 12:10.53 | hrw|work | RP: looks like backlight drop from 100% to lower and back.. 2-3times after few seconds |
| 12:11.21 | hrw|work | and I have 25-43-25-50-25-50-31-25-50-25-43-25 jumps |
| 12:14.35 | CIA-9 | 03zecke 07 * r1.3307.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:14.35 | CIA-9 | Opie Media Players: |
| 12:14.35 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.35 | CIA-9 | playing ogg+mp3) |
| 12:14.35 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.51 | zecke | CoreDump|home: is libsdl1.2.7 new? |
| 12:15.05 | CoreDump|home | zecke: dunno, didn't check |
| 12:15.53 | zecke | lol |
| 12:15.56 | zecke | gints|wrk: :) |
| 12:16.44 | CoreDump|home | libsdl-qpe_1.2.7.bb 1.35 CSets 13 weeks schurig changed section |
| 12:17.18 | CoreDump|home | ipaq.patch 1.5 CSets 64 hours zecke Patch by Gints Polis |
| 12:17.21 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 12:17.24 | zecke | CoreDump|home: pssst |
| 12:17.36 | CoreDump|home | hehe |
| 12:22.55 | zecke | gints|wrk: how did you create that crappy patch? |
| 12:26.02 | CIA-9 | 03zecke 07 * r1.3314 10openembedded/packages/libsdl/libsdl-qpe-1.2.7/ipaq.patch: |
| 12:26.02 | CIA-9 | libsdl-sqp: |
| 12:26.02 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.02 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.07 | zecke | CoreDump|home: please try again |
| 12:29.37 | koen | heh |
| 12:30.08 | koen | "It seems that the suspend works (with apm -s). But how resuming the ipaq ?" |
| 12:30.23 | koen | looks like 50% of s/r works on the h2210 |
| 12:30.56 | RP | hrw|work: There is a limiter in the code to drop the backlight power when the power is low :-/ |
| 12:31.44 | RP | Still, Given we'll always have that in there, I guess we can skew the percentages accordingly... |
| 12:31.56 | hrw|work | RP: ah.. |
| 12:32.09 | hrw|work | now have 22-37-43-22-37 |
| 12:38.13 | hrw|work | RP: logread stopped working when opie started to complain about lack of power.. |
| 12:38.31 | hrw|work | RP: now I have 4% |
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| 12:41.25 | hrw|work | RP: I will connect power and send you file |
| 12:41.51 | hrw|work | but first charge must |
| 13:01.55 | RP | hrw|work: Thanks. I'll write something to extract the voltages and timestamps, plot them and see what we get :) |
| 13:07.24 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:07.38 | hrw|work | ok. husky started |
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| 13:13.02 | hrw|work | RP: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/battery.log.txt.bz2 |
| 13:15.44 | hrw|work | RP: method needs changing... last entries has same time |
| 13:16.03 | roh | can anyone recommend a jtag-cable schematic? |
| 13:16.24 | hrw|work | roh: for casio watch? |
| 13:16.39 | roh | for a simpad |
| 13:16.57 | hrw|work | ~google simpad jtag cable |
| 13:17.41 | roh | i found a passive cable. but do not know if thats recommend or if it's better do build a active one |
| 13:17.52 | hrw|work | asked on simpad forums? |
| 13:18.01 | RP | hrw|work: thanks |
| 13:18.39 | hrw|work | RP: no problem - hope it will help |
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| 13:29.53 | hrw|work | openoffice.org die when have something real to do... |
| 13:36.01 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:37.00 | hrw|work | hi chouimat, Crofton |
| 13:37.17 | Crofton | morning |
| 13:39.28 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3315 10openembedded/packages/gnu-config/gnu-config/config-guess-uclibc.patch: |
| 13:39.28 | CIA-9 | config-guess-uclibc.patch: |
| 13:39.28 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.37 | hrw|work | thx koen |
| 13:39.40 | koen | np |
| 13:39.45 | koen | thanks for fixing it |
| 13:40.23 | hrw|work | np |
| 13:42.07 | Twiun | ljp: ping |
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| 13:43.47 | RP | hrw: The result: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/batt-per-vs-time.gif |
| 13:44.01 | RP | That's battery percentage vs. time |
| 13:44.38 | XorA | looks like the S curve I expected |
| 13:44.56 | subdue | mickey|boardgame: it seems usbserial or something was added, and it messed up things. I'll have to let you know another time regarding kstars, as I'm not experiencing a bit many things |
| 13:45.32 | RP | XorA: The code is suppsed to smooth it out :-/ |
| 13:46.00 | RP | It does resemble what we've come to expect from the device though through experience |
| 13:47.00 | XorA | RP: table lookup, or someone built a x^n function into the kernel? |
| 13:49.05 | uv1 | RP: How exactly did you measure it ? The occurence of several percentages a one time is strange, isnt it ? Also you should not think, that this is an optimized calibration curve, as batteries discharge cycles change over time and dirscharge cycles. |
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| 13:50.46 | uv1 | RP: BTW, I let my battery drain over lunch time. After switching back to life, the battery (opie) status says 98% and NOT charging. Thats strange. |
| 13:52.09 | uv1 | RP: Disconnected the power jack, 65%, reconnected it, now charging ... |
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| 14:03.39 | RP | XorA: Its done by a lookup table and linear interpolation |
| 14:04.09 | RP | uv1: At any one time there is only one percentage |
| 14:04.36 | RP | uv1: Its taken directly from the output of the corgi_power code |
| 14:06.43 | uv1 | RP: What is the time scale ? msecs ? |
| 14:06.55 | RP | uv1: jiffies |
| 14:07.28 | uv1 | RP: And you say that the value is bouncing between two discrete values now and then ? |
| 14:07.47 | uv1 | RP: Can we see a charge curve as well here ? |
| 14:08.11 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3316 10openembedded/packages/python/python-pygtk_2.6.2.bb: python-pygtk_2.6.2.bb: courtesy Hermann Lacheiner |
| 14:08.59 | uv1 | RP: And would apm not show the discharge cycle as well, lets say, if you ask it every 5 secs ? |
| 14:09.33 | RP | uv1: You could use apm if you wanted to produce the same thing |
| 14:09.52 | RP | I wanted to see any other power logging with it though... |
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| 14:11.13 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/volt-vs-time.gif |
| 14:11.28 | RP | actual battery voltage vs time this time. |
| 14:12.11 | RP | I've just realised some of the code I wiped out from the driver was to always force the percentage to the most pessimistic value and stop the bouncing :-/ |
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| 14:19.02 | RP | The code also does heavy averaging for high battery voltages but not low ones :-/ |
| 14:19.42 | RP | I can certainly use this info to make the charging curve nicer |
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| 14:36.31 | koen | ~lart libtool |
| 14:36.33 | koen | arm-linux-libtool: link: CURRENT `1000' is not a nonnegative integer |
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| 14:46.27 | uv1 | RP: When does the device stop charging ? What is the condition ? apm says 100% since 30 mins now, but still charging. I remember, that a buggy charging code once destroyed my ipaq3630 batteries ;-( |
| 14:46.59 | RP | uv1: It charges until it recieves a hardware interrupt |
| 14:47.08 | RP | It will then restart charging |
| 14:47.24 | RP | If it recieves the same interrupt within a certain time frame, it stops |
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| 14:47.37 | uv1 | RP: OK, waiting ... |
| 14:47.53 | RP | uv1: Turn on msglevel2 to see what its doing |
| 14:48.04 | uv1 | RP: how ? |
| 14:50.46 | RP | echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/corgi-battery/msglevel |
| 14:52.05 | uv1 | RP: Where does it show up then ? logread ? |
| 14:53.16 | RP | yes or dmesg etc. |
| 14:55.02 | uv1 | Does anyone know here, whether gnuplot work with opie (and how the package is named) ? |
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| 14:55.49 | Spyro | hi guys |
| 14:55.54 | koen | uv1: qtplot |
| 14:55.56 | hrw|work | hi Spyro |
| 14:56.00 | Spyro | Im having trouble building bootstrap-image |
| 14:56.07 | Spyro | | + ipkg-cl -f /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap |
| 14:56.07 | Spyro | | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 14:56.22 | hrw|work | Spyro: ignore |
| 14:56.22 | uv1 | koen: qtplot handled like gnuplot ? |
| 14:56.34 | Spyro | hrw|work: I would, but it bombs out at that opint |
| 14:56.35 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/openembedded/packages/gnome$ ls ../gnuplot/ |
| 14:56.35 | koen | SCCS files gnuplot_4.0.0.bb qtplot_0.2.bb |
| 14:56.38 | koen | no idea |
| 14:56.47 | koen | any qt* sounds like a ugly hack to me |
| 14:57.06 | chouimat | |lart koen |
| 14:57.13 | uv1 | lets try ... |
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| 14:57.57 | uv1 | BTW: evas-x11_0.9.9.004.bb:57:unparsed line ... Thats new. |
| 14:58.06 | koen | uv1: read the mailinglist |
| 14:58.10 | hrw|work | uv1: add \ in --with-x line |
| 14:58.21 | hrw|work | I have fixes for it at home |
| 14:58.31 | Spyro | | + ipkg-cl -f /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap |
| 14:58.31 | Spyro | | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 14:58.31 | Spyro | | Nothing to be done |
| 14:58.31 | Spyro | | An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 14:58.31 | Spyro | | Collected errors: |
| 14:58.32 | Spyro | | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. |
| 14:58.34 | Spyro | | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' |
| 14:58.37 | Spyro | NOTE: Task failed: |
| 14:58.38 | Spyro | NOTE: package bootstrap-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: failed |
| 14:58.40 | Spyro | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 14:58.42 | Spyro | NOTE: package bootstrap-image-1.0: failed |
| 14:58.44 | Spyro | ERROR: Build of bootstrap-image failed |
| 14:58.59 | uv1 | koen: qtplot want gnuplot, wants x11 ;-( |
| 14:59.05 | RP | Spyro: Have a look at the do_rootfs log |
| 15:00.09 | koen | uv1: only at buildtime |
| 15:00.27 | koen | uv1: read the .bb and see http://www.mneuroth.de/privat/zaurus/gnuplot.html |
| 15:00.55 | Spyro | RP: there are several - I am looking at the highest numbered variant |
| 15:01.10 | Spyro | RP: what am I looking for. |
| 15:01.26 | RP | Spyro: Each time you run bitbake you'll generate a new one. Look at the timestamp for most recent |
| 15:01.48 | Spyro | ok so what am I lokoing for anyhow ? |
| 15:01.57 | RP | You're looking for an error, probably at the of the file |
| 15:02.23 | RP | If you can't see it, post the logfile somewhere (pastebin?) |
| 15:03.15 | Spyro | wheres pastebin again ? |
| 15:03.50 | ade|desk | http://pastebin.ca |
| 15:04.49 | Spyro | http://pastebin.ca/11896 |
| 15:19.04 | hrw|work | bye all |
| 15:20.42 | Spyro | anyone got any idea as to the problem above ? |
| 15:22.45 | RP | Spyro: Its trying to install a package called "task-bootstrap" which doesn't sound right to me. You need to work out why... |
| 15:23.56 | Spyro | what makes you say its trying to install it ? it just says it cant find it? |
| 15:25.36 | RP | ipkg-cl -f /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/ian/projects/openembedded/stuff/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap |
| 15:25.53 | RP | Its trying to install it - then fails |
| 15:26.19 | Spyro | why is it using ipkg anyway ? I didnt ask it for any ipkgs... |
| 15:26.39 | RP | The whole thing is built with ipks |
| 15:26.59 | Spyro | ok I looked int he bb file for bootstrap_image and it says |
| 15:27.09 | Spyro | export IPKG_INSTALL = "task-bootstrap" |
| 15:27.23 | Spyro | is that wrong? I uncommented it and it succeeded but I still only have half a rootfs |
| 15:27.45 | RP | If its there, it needs it. but it isn't getting generated |
| 15:28.05 | RP | Have a look at the task-bootstrap logs and see if there were any errors |
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| 15:30.31 | emte | koen, i put both the cvs and the targeted e bb up for you after kergoth showed me the errors of my ways |
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| 15:30.59 | Bernardo | hi |
| 15:31.26 | RP | hi Bernardo |
| 15:36.25 | emte | not sure what hrw|gone's issue is with it going to oe-devel |
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| 15:54.12 | uv1 | RP: My CL860 is still charging. Are you sure, that you always will get an interrupt ? |
| 15:55.00 | lardman|busy | mine sometimes also charges for a long time (like all night) |
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| 15:56.53 | RP | uv1: What does the voltage drop to if you take it off charge? |
| 15:57.30 | RP | I can confirm mine does stop eventually. They do seem to take an age when finally topping the charge up... |
| 15:59.39 | uv1 | RP: While charging 100%, Voltage : 221 |
| 16:00.05 | uv1 | RP: While charging 98%, Voltage : 208 |
| 16:00.27 | uv1 | RP: So its possibly nearly over ;-) |
| 16:01.39 | uv1 | RP: Hopefully they know hao to handle a battery. Possibly they want to sell new ones ? ;-( |
| 16:02.01 | RP | uv1: 210 is supposedly 100% |
| 16:02.26 | uv1 | RP: How is the "Status" in msglevel 2, when full ? |
| 16:02.47 | RP | so close but not 100% yet. The charging monitors temperature so I'd not expect too many problems he says crossing fingers |
| 16:02.58 | RP | uv1: Its not as simple as that. |
| 16:03.22 | RP | Full is when the CO interrupt occurs within 10 minutes of each other |
| 16:03.57 | uv1 | How can I see that in apm / msglevel2 ? -1% ? |
| 16:04.47 | RP | uv1: Just by watching for the CO interrupts and timestamps |
| 16:05.13 | uv1 | RP: So I assume -1% will never be seen ? |
| 16:06.32 | RP | I don't know what the -1% is... |
| 16:06.32 | uv1|dinner | Sorry, have to leave for 30 mins ... |
| 16:07.12 | uv1|dinner | RP: We had the -1% when coming to the prob with "battery level critical". You said, that this is set, when charging ... |
| 16:08.05 | RP | I think I since altered the battery code but I'm not sure |
| 16:11.41 | RP | uv1|dinner: Its not "-1%". It says -1 ? which means it can't work out how long the system has left to run |
| 16:11.44 | RP | The percentage should always be there now... |
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| 17:54.38 | Crofton | hmm, how do I get bitbake to fetch files and apply patches, not to configure and compile? |
| 17:55.48 | CosmicPenguin | bitbake -c patch <blah> |
| 17:56.15 | Crofton | Thanks |
| 17:57.33 | Crofton | I need to updagrade my osk kernel, but I want to run the kernel config by hand to check for new configure options |
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| 18:04.58 | SirFred | good evening |
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| 18:07.18 | jjg_ | hi |
| 18:07.34 | jjg_ | just wondering how the memory management aspects of OE are being addressed |
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| 18:12.24 | CosmicPenguin | Or at least it has in the past - I haven't screwed up a busybox config in a while |
| 18:12.45 | treke | CosmicPenguin: no infinitly looping and filling up your disk anymore? |
| 18:12.51 | RP | jjg: I'd expect the memory position to be a lot better in a week or two. Things are being done... |
| 18:12.59 | CosmicPenguin | treke: yeah, thats bad news... :) |
| 18:13.16 | CosmicPenguin | Usually, if busybox goes more then about 30 seconds on my system, thats bad |
| 18:13.38 | treke | zecke needs to wake up so that I can pester him |
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| 19:05.48 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 19:06.09 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 19:06.28 | Pigi | hi koen. Welcome back ! |
| 19:07.04 | CoreDump|home | does any one know how /etc/sdcontrol is triggered on a collie? |
| 19:07.14 | kergoth | by sdmgr. |
| 19:08.16 | treke | :p |
| 19:09.19 | koen | if you want a pda running linux, try opie, if you want to run linux on a pda, try something else |
| 19:09.36 | koen | that's the shortest explanation I encountered |
| 19:09.36 | treke | ? |
| 19:10.01 | treke | that made absolutly no sense at all |
| 19:10.06 | koen | alhtough without context it is kinda strange |
| 19:10.18 | CoreDump|home | thx kergoth, sdmgr seems to be b0rked in recent build. sdcontrol isn't beeing run |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3318 10openembedded/packages/meta/meta-sectest-gpe.bb: add hydra, thcrut and driftnet to the sectest image |
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| 19:23.45 | koen | any volunteers for upgrading gnome to 2.10? |
| 19:24.30 | CosmicPenguin | There's a fun three weeks |
| 19:25.22 | koen | indeed |
| 19:26.02 | koen | I tried adding gnome-python 2.10 and got stuck on a libtool thing in libgnome-2.10 |
| 19:28.27 | CosmicPenguin | pastebin it |
| 19:30.09 | koen | CosmicPenguin: libtool chokes on LIBGNOME_AGE=1000 complaining 1000 is not a nonnegative integer |
| 19:30.24 | koen | changing 1000 to 100 makes it compile |
| 19:30.41 | koen | but I have no idea what it's doing or supposed to do |
| 19:30.47 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 19:31.41 | CosmicPenguin | koen: sounds like your typical gnome issue |
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| 19:45.32 | CoreDump|home | thought so :) |
| 19:46.00 | treke | building from kde-cvs is a pain |
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| 19:55.37 | hrw | hi |
| 19:55.39 | hrw | emte: ping |
| 19:59.44 | pb_ | treke: good to know that kde is keeping up with gnome in that respect |
| 20:01.00 | treke | at least with gnome you can figure out how to build a single app :p |
| 20:06.36 | pb_ | heh |
| 20:08.41 | zecke|pickup | re |
| 20:08.53 | zecke | re |
| 20:09.06 | treke | yay zecke shows his face :p |
| 20:09.51 | treke | zecke: you don't happen to have some magical working kitchensync hiding anywhere, do you? |
| 20:10.06 | treke | been trying to get the svn code to build for a half an hour now :p |
| 20:10.28 | hrw | ~seen ljp |
| 20:10.36 | ibot | ljp is currently on #zaurus #opie #oe #elinux #handhelds.org #openzaurus |
| 20:11.04 | hrw | someone tried to build qt/e with freetype support? |
| 20:14.53 | treke | I think it's been tried a number of times |
| 20:15.01 | zecke | treke: oh it built yesterday |
| 20:15.17 | zecke | treke: KitchenSync itself works, it is only kdepim being fscking broken |
| 20:15.19 | treke | zecke: Working out how to build it is the problem :p |
| 20:15.38 | zecke | treke: cd kdepim && unsermake |
| 20:15.51 | zecke | treke: or make instead of unsermake if you don't use unsermake |
| 20:16.01 | treke | Can you build just kitchensync somehow? |
| 20:17.49 | zecke | treke: hardly you need to change some Makefile.am |
| 20:17.56 | treke | hehe |
| 20:18.02 | treke | yeah spent a while fiddling with that |
| 20:18.07 | zecke | treke: to not use the built libkcal.la, libkdepim.la |
| 20:18.09 | treke | maybe I'll just rebuild full kdepim debs |
| 20:18.18 | zecke | treke: look what I did with my seperate packages |
| 20:18.30 | treke | yeah thats what I was using as a reference |
| 20:18.52 | treke | my first goal is to get two instances of korganizers and kaddressbook to sync with each other |
| 20:18.58 | treke | than I'm going to take on the zaurus |
| 20:20.16 | zecke | treke: if you actually start with it and run into problems, please get back to me |
| 20:20.21 | zecke | treke: we will work it out ;) |
| 20:20.36 | treke | hehe |
| 20:20.51 | treke | I figured maybe the svn code works better |
| 20:21.38 | treke | for some reason syncing with a local and a remote konnector was just behaving randomly |
| 20:22.02 | treke | sometimes it would lose the text of all entries, others it wouldn't see the entries, and other times it would just lose one |
| 20:22.08 | zecke | treke: it works better |
| 20:22.19 | zecke | treke: until someone breaks kcal and kabc classes again |
| 20:22.23 | treke | hehe |
| 20:22.27 | treke | that a common occurance? |
| 20:22.45 | zecke | treke: sadly the Resource Framework is fscking broken |
| 20:23.16 | treke | hehe, maybe it will get fixed in 4 :p |
| 20:23.50 | zecke | treke: syncing is dead simple, but you need to have some knowledge... |
| 20:30.23 | CosmicPenguin | "dead simple" might be stretching it |
| 20:31.39 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: no kidding it is |
| 20:31.57 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: there are certain levels of perfection though |
| 20:32.25 | CosmicPenguin | In my experience, its very difficult - thats why nobody does it very well |
| 20:33.48 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: I've written one simple synchronisation algorithm it works with everything |
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| 20:42.17 | CosmicPenguin | gnu-config doesn't build today |
| 20:42.24 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: bk pull |
| 20:42.35 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 20:42.52 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: patch needs CVSDATE>=20050515 |
| 20:42.58 | koen | CosmicPenguin: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2 |
| 20:45.40 | hrw | good night all |
| 20:45.44 | hrw | .nick hrw|gone |
| 20:45.45 | koen | 'night hrw |
| 20:45.59 | koen | zecke: any timeframe for you bb patches to hit svn? |
| 20:46.10 | zecke | mickeyl: ping |
| 20:46.15 | koen | s/you/your/ |
| 20:46.31 | zecke | koen: I'm currently 'crafting' a Turing-Machine |
| 20:48.37 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|gone: hmm... your patch definately doesn't apply with CVSDATE-20050515 |
| 20:49.10 | koen | s/>=/>/ |
| 20:49.13 | zecke | koen: and I will chat with mickeyl afterwards |
| 20:51.00 | zecke | koen: look at the perl - argh *shouder* - sourcecode |
| 20:51.19 | koen | I tend not to |
| 20:51.28 | zecke | koen: all you need to know there is one server holding the results |
| 20:51.31 | koen | looking at interpreted code |
| 20:51.47 | zecke | koen: and clients running tests and sending the results to the server |
| 20:52.20 | Crofton | hmmm, I aded a new bb file for a new kernel version |
| 20:52.38 | Crofton | I built the kernel, cleaned task-bootstrap, and rebuilt opie-image |
| 20:52.47 | Crofton | now depmod -a gives |
| 20:52.55 | Crofton | ARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.12-rc2-omap1: No such file or directory |
| 20:52.56 | Crofton | FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.12-rc2-omap1/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory |
| 20:53.05 | Crofton | where rc2 is the old kernel |
| 20:53.10 | Crofton | what have I missed? |
| 20:53.44 | Crofton | forget I asked the question |
| 20:53.51 | zecke | Crofton: did you get my little complains about your bb files? |
| 20:53.59 | CosmicPenguin | today is the fucking 16th |
| 20:54.00 | Crofton | via email? |
| 20:54.10 | zecke | Crofton: no via irc |
| 20:54.22 | Crofton | I don't think so |
| 20:54.36 | zecke | Crofton: besides that there is little preventing me pushing your changes |
| 20:54.39 | Crofton | I may have seen them, but I think I was wrapped up in something else |
| 20:54.40 | Crofton | ok |
| 20:54.49 | zecke | Crofton: but probably some guy actual having an OMAP board should device |
| 20:55.07 | Crofton | I have a omap5912osk |
| 20:55.21 | zecke | Crofton: it was mainly a complaint to the ORB stuff, but I don't remember it exactly |
| 20:55.26 | Crofton | what day did you make them? |
| 20:55.46 | zecke | Crofton: one or two days ago, on this channel |
| 20:55.55 | Crofton | I'll search the logs |
| 20:56.09 | Crofton | If I change them, I'll end up with a new changeset though |
| 20:56.21 | Crofton | right ? In addition to the first |
| 20:57.04 | zecke | yes |
| 20:57.10 | Crofton | ok |
| 20:57.26 | zecke | Crofton: I would prefer someone else looking at the patches as well |
| 20:57.37 | zecke | Crofton: but I'll push them little by little |
| 20:57.57 | Crofton | OK, I would like to get them in, the orb stuff won't break anything |
| 20:58.14 | Crofton | the machine stuff should be "safe" too |
| 20:58.36 | Crofton | I am a little worried about the site-config stuff, but I don't think it will lead to bustage |
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| 20:59.12 | Crofton | there are about 3 or 4 people interested in using oe to develop images for this board |
| 20:59.19 | zecke | Crofton: I won't push it for i686, or was your change intended |
| 20:59.33 | zecke | Crofton: but the arm stuff looks ok |
| 20:59.44 | Crofton | I am thinking there was a configure issue for some of the native builds |
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| 21:03.41 | koen | ~logs |
| 21:03.42 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 21:07.06 | Crofton | ok found them |
| 21:09.22 | Crofton | I'll go through the comments tomorrow, need to flash the new kernel in the OSK so the modules stop barfing :) |
| 21:20.28 | mickeyl | re |
| 21:21.03 | zecke | wb mickeyl |
| 21:23.33 | zecke | mickeyl: do we want to commit the first two patches tonight? |
| 21:23.50 | koen | zecke: yes! yes! yes! |
| 21:24.20 | mickeyl | zecke: yeah. you got access now? |
| 21:24.24 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.29 | zecke | mickeyl: yes |
| 21:24.34 | mickeyl | ok. |
| 21:24.42 | mickeyl | will you handle the bitbake one and I'll do the oe ones ? |
| 21:24.43 | zecke | Yeah Yeah Bitbake Patches, Yeah Yeah HeHe... |
| 21:25.07 | zecke | oh do we want to make oe dependant on trunk directly? |
| 21:25.17 | mickeyl | i thought so |
| 21:25.36 | mickeyl | ah or do you want to put out a release before ? |
| 21:25.40 | mickeyl | bitbake, that is |
| 21:25.45 | zecke | mickeyl: exactly |
| 21:25.50 | mickeyl | fine with me as well |
| 21:26.11 | zecke | let me finish my Turing Machine first |
| 21:26.14 | mickeyl | k |
| 21:32.26 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 21:32.38 | mickeyl | good evening pb_ |
| 21:32.50 | pb_ | zecke: heh, you are constructing a turing machine? |
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| 21:40.39 | zecke | pb_: Don't ask |
| 21:41.29 | zecke | shit happens when you're too scared to knock the Profs Office door to get a test date fixed and take the class a second time... |
| 21:42.14 | pb_ | heh |
| 21:42.33 | zecke | Introduction to the Theory of Computation... |
| 21:42.46 | zecke | my issue is I don't believe the Church Thesis about computation |
| 21:42.52 | treke | how big is an infinitly long reel of tape? |
| 21:43.13 | pb_ | not as big as you might think |
| 21:43.14 | zecke | treke: not more poweful than two infinitly long reels of tape |
| 21:43.35 | zecke | treke: start counting and get back to me tomorrow |
| 21:45.08 | treke | doh. I forgot to start my kdepim build before lunch |
| 21:46.52 | pb_ | oh dear. kdepim famously doesn't build properly in the afternoon. |
| 21:47.13 | treke | that sounds like a winner |
| 21:47.17 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:48.05 | pb_ | zecke: what's your disagreement with Church? |
| 21:48.22 | treke | usually too long and boring |
| 21:48.26 | treke | and all of that kneeling |
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| 21:55.22 | beiss | Good evening! |
| 21:55.48 | treke | ~ugt |
| 21:55.49 | ibot | [ugt] Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
| 21:55.59 | treke | please try again |
| 21:56.26 | beiss | good morning !!! |
| 21:56.50 | zecke | pb_: I've never seen a nondeterministic with infinite amount of memory in reality |
| 21:57.01 | Crofton | working with people in multiple timezones takes some getting used to |
| 21:57.17 | zecke | pb_: I've seen lambda kalkül though |
| 21:57.28 | beiss | I am just struggeling with flashing a WLAN-Card! |
| 21:57.39 | treke | very good |
| 21:57.44 | zecke | beiss: hi |
| 21:57.58 | mickeyl | someone please remind we what to do to fix a |
| 21:58.05 | mickeyl | | configure.ac:119: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_DEFINE |
| 21:58.15 | mickeyl | | configure.ac:274: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_LIBGNUTLS |
| 21:58.17 | mickeyl | ... |
| 21:58.42 | beiss | When trying to use prism2_srec I get "Are you sure you have compiled (and loaded the correct version of) hostap.o module with PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT definition in driver/module/hostap_config.h?" |
| 21:59.26 | beiss | Does anybody know if PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT and PRISM2_NON_VOLATILE_DOWNLOAD is enabled? |
| 21:59.53 | pb_ | mickeyl: for the latter, you probably need to teach gnutls to install its .m4 files into staging/aclocal. |
| 21:59.57 | beiss | I'am Using collie with DCF-660W |
| 22:00.14 | pb_ | I don't know what's going on with the former, though. My usual reaction is to run screaming from the room when that kind of thing happens. |
| 22:00.39 | mickeyl | pb_: thanks. same here, i'm really trying not to learn too much about autohell |
| 22:01.08 | pb_ | AC_DEFINE is meant to be an autoconf builtin. |
| 22:01.22 | mickeyl | beiss: what kind of card is that? prism3 with volatile 2nd and tertiary firmware RAM ? |
| 22:01.40 | mickeyl | pb_: so perhaps our autoconf version is too new/too old / or something |
| 22:01.47 | beiss | ahh |
| 22:01.51 | beiss | a moment |
| 22:02.28 | pb_ | mickeyl: yah, could be |
| 22:02.41 | mickeyl | hmm. ok i'add that package to nonworking |
| 22:02.43 | mickeyl | :) |
| 22:03.04 | beiss | hostap_diag wlan0 says: NICID: id=0x800c v1.0.0 (PRISM II (2.5) PCMCIA (SST parallel flash)) |
| 22:03.15 | mickeyl | aha |
| 22:03.26 | mickeyl | to my knowledge, prism2 cards don't use firmware flash |
| 22:03.36 | mickeyl | s/flash/in RAM/ |
| 22:03.49 | mickeyl | except the infamous socket/symbol one |
| 22:03.54 | pb_ | they can do. |
| 22:03.55 | mickeyl | and the Intel pendant |
| 22:04.09 | pb_ | I think you can soft-load firmware into ram on all prism2s, though you don't normally do that. |
| 22:04.36 | mickeyl | ah right. they come with secondary and tertiary in flash but you can override those versions |
| 22:05.01 | pb_ | One of my laptops is set up to always softload a particular version of the tertiary firmware, so I can use hostap mode without having to worry about what's in flash. |
| 22:05.08 | pb_ | yah, exactly. |
| 22:05.10 | mickeyl | makes sense |
| 22:05.40 | mickeyl | we enable volatile RAM download in our hostap build, we don't enable non-volatile download |
| 22:05.55 | mickeyl | this one is better done on a PC or a laptop imo |
| 22:05.59 | pb_ | right |
| 22:06.09 | pb_ | non-volatile download is all a bit scary. |
| 22:06.59 | beiss | but the DCF-660W ist a cf-Card, but I have no cf-card-slot in my PC |
| 22:07.25 | pb_ | that's unfortunate. |
| 22:07.36 | mickeyl | what do you want to do to your dcf-660w ? |
| 22:07.46 | mickeyl | make it work or upgrade it? |
| 22:08.00 | pb_ | in that case, you are doomed to either (a) spend five euros on a cf->pcmcia adapter, (b) get another card, (c) get another PC, (d) live with soft downloads, or (e) build your own hostap with the nonvolatile download anabled. |
| 22:08.14 | beiss | I want to Upgrae the firmware, becaus I want to use wpa |
| 22:08.26 | mickeyl | ah. then see pb_'s options |
| 22:08.57 | beiss | how can realize soft downloads? |
| 22:09.19 | pb_ | see the documentation for prism2_srec. |
| 22:09.25 | pb_ | you just need to tell it to download to RAM, not to flash |
| 22:10.08 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3317.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): upgrade python-pysqlite2 to 2.0.0 (final). add lftp 3.2.0 to nonworking, bails out with undefined AC macros |
| 22:10.10 | pb_ | assuming you have 50k spare in your rootfs, you can just add an appropriate prism2_srec command to your pcmcia scripts or /etc/network/interfaces, and it will all work transparently. |
| 22:10.34 | beiss | ls -la |
| 22:10.35 | mickeyl | we do exactly that with the sandisk cards |
| 22:10.40 | mickeyl | take a look at prism3-support package |
| 22:11.43 | beiss | when I try prism2_srec -v -r wlan0 sf010704.hex I get image is not meant to be downloaded to volatile memory. |
| 22:11.54 | pb_ | right, you need a different image. |
| 22:12.17 | pb_ | go back to whereever that file came from, and select one of the ram-based images. |
| 22:15.33 | mickeyl | zecke: i need to go to bed. if you need me to help with the upgrade, we must do it tomorrow |
| 22:15.39 | mickeyl | g'night guys |
| 22:15.46 | pb_ | mickeyl: good night |
| 22:19.04 | beiss | Great. Thanks for your help. |
| 22:19.53 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: cya |
| 22:20.42 | beiss | But it would be a great thing if everybody could be able to flash the firmware. Why not enable non-volatile download? |
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| 22:22.36 | pb_ | Because, although it would be a great thing for everybody to be able to flash their firmware, it would not be so great if everyone's card was destroyed as a result. |
| 22:23.30 | pb_ | Nobody knows whether the firmware downloader works on these platforms, and (understandably) nobody is especially keen to be the first person to try it out. |
| 22:25.43 | Spyro | guys... how does one set a blank password in /etc/passwd ? |
| 22:28.41 | CosmicPenguin | damn mickey |
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| 22:28.49 | CosmicPenguin | anyone know why the directfb do_stage() is this: |
| 22:28.51 | CosmicPenguin | oe_runmake 'DESTDIR=${STAGING_LIBDIR}/' install |
| 22:30.20 | pb_ | that does seem odd |
| 22:30.57 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: he went the easy road and dumped everything there |
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| 22:31.22 | CosmicPenguin | but that sort of freaks out everything else, doesn't it? |
| 22:31.42 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: that depends |
| 22:32.01 | pb_ | well, more to the point, you'd kind of expect that it would result in creating staging/arm-linux/lib/include, staging/arm-linux/lib/lib/ and so on. |
| 22:32.33 | pb_ | which surely isn't what you'd want. |
| 22:33.04 | pb_ | there's plenty of precedent for do_stage() just being a directed "make install"; almost all the X packages do that, for example. |
| 22:33.36 | CosmicPenguin | indeed |
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| 22:37.12 | treke | OOPS |
| 22:37.27 | pb_ | treke: ! |
| 22:38.09 | tmbinc | anyone building for mipsel here? which gcc/glibc/binutils combinations are known-good? |
| 22:38.24 | treke | I forgot to give this machine swap space |
| 22:38.32 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:38.50 | treke | building kdepim sort of killed it |
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| 22:39.48 | zecke | treke: swap? I though we've a paging system :} |
| 22:43.12 | treke | guess I'l try compiling at home |
| 22:44.02 | CosmicPenguin | bah - screw this |
| 22:44.13 | pb_ | zecke: I heard that paging was overrated. |
| 22:44.33 | pb_ | actually, people have been talking about adding classical swapping to linux for years. |
| 22:44.40 | pb_ | afaik, nothing has ever come of it, though. |
| 22:44.47 | CosmicPenguin | Easier to figure out the headers then to try to add all the random defines that make install needs |
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| 23:38.10 | treke | bleh |
| 23:38.26 | treke | I'm just about to walk out the door and my kde build finishes |
| 23:39.58 | CosmicPenguin | no going home for you |
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| 23:51.23 | treke | still broken |
