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| 00:52.47 | CP|Laptop | http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/ |
| 00:52.58 | CP|Laptop | Some of those options might be nice to implement on our side |
| 00:53.06 | CP|Laptop | I really liked the re-compressing of the .jars |
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| 03:14.06 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
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| 03:24.07 | mithro | howdy people |
| 03:24.09 | mithro | working on capturing the miniconf video from tap to the computer |
| 03:24.28 | mithro | step 1, install windows XP |
| 03:25.41 | mithro | ljp: your going to be the first talk up :P |
| 03:25.53 | mithro | btw did you end up sending me your slides? |
| 03:26.21 | mithro | anyone want to donate upload bandwidth to this cause? |
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| 03:36.04 | ljp | hmmm |
| 03:36.17 | ljp | you can just delete my talk |
| 03:36.19 | ljp | :) |
| 03:36.36 | ljp | hmm.. dont think I have sent them yet |
| 03:39.19 | mithro | i had a request for your slides :P |
| 03:40.09 | ljp | hmm, really |
| 03:45.08 | mithro | yeah |
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| 06:00.40 | koobla | hi all! |
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| 06:34.00 | emte | hmm |
| 06:34.15 | emte | hey raster you awake? |
| 06:34.42 | emte | easy question for a genious such as your self |
| 06:34.50 | emte | genius* |
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| 07:21.01 | raster | emte: emiie |
| 07:21.05 | raster | genius my arse |
| 07:21.24 | emte | lol |
| 07:21.45 | emte | its just a warning from someone elses code |
| 07:21.56 | emte | reverseXYbar2.c:414: warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value |
| 07:22.21 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.21 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.21 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.21 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.38 | emte | i am not sure what its trying to tell me |
| 07:23.04 | emte | i tried a few things ... would be nice to know tho |
| 07:34.54 | emte | night |
| 07:46.59 | XorA | morning |
| 07:47.02 | mickeyl | emte: it's warning you that about a _potential_ mistype of = instead of == |
| 07:47.33 | koen|z | hey XorA and mickeyl |
| 07:47.42 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 07:47.58 | mickeyl | emte: it's saying that if you really meant =, then you should add additional parentheses |
| 07:48.03 | XorA | hey koen|z, abiword on GPE rocks, we blow pdaXrom away totally with that |
| 07:48.16 | koen|z | :) |
| 07:48.47 | koen|z | we do need to ship the preferences glade file, though |
| 07:49.07 | XorA | koen|z: Im just about to do that, and debug the Italics crash |
| 07:50.47 | mickeyl | good work |
| 07:52.21 | koen|z | 5mb for a complete wordprocessor isn't much |
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| 07:52.34 | chris144|work | good morning folks |
| 07:53.00 | koen|z | hey chris144|work |
| 07:53.07 | chris144|work | hi koen |
| 07:53.45 | chris144|work | too bad, my linux work is on hold for the time being, some elctronics need to be fixed... |
| 07:53.50 | chris144|work | that sucks |
| 07:56.59 | chris144|work | I tried to do a build yesterday night, with oe pull from a few days ago. It failed with some genext2fs patch problems? Should I just pull a new oe or start looking into it? |
| 07:57.26 | XorA | koen|z: only a 1.8M ipk, thats awesome, and it loads my word CV as well |
| 07:58.04 | XorA | hmmm word weighs in at 800Meg, abiword at 1.8, I wonder which is better quality |
| 07:58.34 | koen|z | word also ships fonts + clipart |
| 07:59.26 | koen|z | did I mention OZ353 is nice? |
| 08:00.56 | XorA | what does ${datadir} expand to? |
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| 08:06.58 | hrw | hi |
| 08:07.02 | hrw | XorA: /usr/share |
| 08:08.46 | XorA | hrw: morning, cheers |
| 08:09.40 | hrw | which app (light one) under gpe can read html? |
| 08:10.08 | XorA | hrw: dillo? |
| 08:10.24 | hrw | XorA: dillo/gtk2 exist? |
| 08:10.44 | XorA | hrw: thats the question, I remeber some aregument on mailing list |
| 08:10.51 | XorA | hrw: dont remeber outcome |
| 08:12.45 | hrw | ok |
| 08:13.03 | hrw | I will have to go today to finally buy some speakers to computer |
| 08:15.48 | hrw | mickeyl: did you upgraded your c7x0 to 2.6.12-rc? |
| 08:16.18 | mickeyl | hrw: no time yet |
| 08:16.21 | mickeyl | hrw: did you? |
| 08:17.09 | hrw | mickeyl: I did |
| 08:17.18 | hrw | works ok but WE V0 |
| 08:18.25 | hrw | ~resolve logitech.pl |
| 08:19.02 | hrw | ~nslookup logitech.pl |
| 08:19.47 | hrw | logitech x-230 looks nice but I've read that they are hard-connected ;( |
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| 08:21.53 | raster | emte: oftne people screw up |
| 08:21.59 | raster | and put if a = b |
| 08:22.02 | raster | instead of if a == b |
| 08:22.09 | raster | and dont realise it |
| 08:22.11 | raster | as its valid to do that |
| 08:22.16 | raster | and the result is tested |
| 08:22.33 | raster | (result is the value of the variable its assigned to) |
| 08:22.46 | raster | so ti make it belive u really want to assing |
| 08:22.48 | raster | assign |
| 08:22.51 | raster | add extra ()'s |
| 08:25.09 | ljp | try a === b |
| 08:25.12 | ljp | :) |
| 08:25.54 | hrw | ljp: $a === $b |
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| 08:39.55 | hrw | mickeyl: in 2.6.12-rc3-mm2 ieee 802.11 support is another option.. there is even hostap in kernel |
| 08:40.17 | mickeyl | yes, but just old/outdated versions |
| 08:41.00 | mickeyl | external modules will always be more current than in kernel ones - and we probably want to update the modules more often than the kernel |
| 08:41.09 | hrw | sure |
| 08:41.39 | hrw | I will look into that 802.11 support - maybe that will give me WE |
| 08:45.14 | mickeyl | ya |
| 08:46.06 | XorA | koen|z: ahah, preferences now work :-) |
| 08:48.20 | hrw | arh... knode^Wkontact is so fscking slow... |
| 08:48.23 | koen|z | very cool |
| 08:48.41 | XorA | koen|z: now running in gdb to find that Italics problem |
| 08:55.47 | RP | morning all |
| 08:56.16 | mickeyl | good morning RP |
| 08:56.39 | hrw | hi RP |
| 08:57.43 | XorA | morning RP |
| 08:58.07 | koen|z | hey RP |
| 09:00.39 | hrw | question about bt uart, gps and other pcmcia serial cards... |
| 09:00.53 | hrw | should we add setserial into bootstrap or not? |
| 09:01.01 | mickeyl | sure |
| 09:01.02 | mickeyl | it's pretty small |
| 09:01.08 | mickeyl | and almost all devices have a serial port |
| 09:01.15 | hrw | what about fuser also? |
| 09:01.27 | mickeyl | unsure about that |
| 09:01.33 | mickeyl | size ? |
| 09:01.39 | hrw | 11k ipk |
| 09:02.58 | mickeyl | sounds not too bad |
| 09:09.21 | koen | doesn't busybox have an fuser and setserial thing? |
| 09:09.37 | mickeyl | if so, that'd be even better |
| 09:10.06 | koen | I would be surprised if the busybox dudes didn't include those |
| 09:11.17 | hrw | busybox has no fuser |
| 09:11.54 | CIA-9 | 03XorA 07 * r1.3235 10openembedded/packages/abiword/abiword_2.2.7.bb: Fixed packaging directory typo |
| 09:12.10 | hrw | ~lart xora |
| 09:12.20 | hrw | XorA: ADD info about what package it is |
| 09:12.53 | XorA | hrw: abiword_2.2.7.bb |
| 09:12.53 | hrw | XorA: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/ChangeSet%40-1d?nav=index.html |
| 09:12.53 | hrw | XorA: go there and look |
| 09:13.01 | hrw | XorA: run "bk changes" and look |
| 09:13.38 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 09:13.41 | hrw | 6 days XorA 1.3206 New versions and disabling samba support |
| 09:13.52 | hrw | new versions of what? umbaumba? |
| 09:13.58 | mickeyl | umbaumba 2.0 |
| 09:14.10 | XorA | hrw: blah, stupid web frontends |
| 09:15.06 | schurig | hrw: afaik "bk changes" should get fixed |
| 09:15.19 | hrw | XorA: thx |
| 09:15.28 | schurig | hrw: its redundant to specify package names if this meta-info is in BK already :-) |
| 09:15.32 | hrw | schurig: maybe in commercial version.. |
| 09:15.53 | XorA | schurig: that was my thoughts, but I see the problem with the frontends as well |
| 09:16.17 | schurig | XorA: the frontends are buggy :-) |
| 09:16.26 | hrw | schurig: sometimes I look into web frontend to see how much changes was since my last pull. and going into diffs just to see what was changed is pain when there is many of them |
| 09:17.04 | schurig | hrw: hehe, go and add this changelog thingy into git-web, then we switch over to git :-) |
| 09:17.08 | hrw | XorA: year ago kergoth was larting me for the same which I lart you ;) |
| 09:17.27 | hrw | schurig: do we go git? |
| 09:17.38 | schurig | hrw: I don't have any clue |
| 09:18.08 | XorA | hrw: this next one I do right then :-) |
| 09:18.22 | schurig | hrw: I uses cogito to track Linus' kernel, I'm far away from being a git/cogito expert and don't know enought to recommend/not recommend it |
| 09:18.26 | koen | afaik git still isn't an scm |
| 09:18.49 | schurig | koen: yes, but cogito is (cogito is the new name of git-pasky) |
| 09:18.49 | hrw | schurig: for me elinks kernel.org is enough ;) |
| 09:18.59 | schurig | hrw: elinks? |
| 09:19.08 | schurig | hrw: what's that? |
| 09:20.00 | CIA-9 | 03XorA 07 * r1.3236 10openembedded/ (7 files in 3 dirs): mplayer-atty: update the version to 1.1.4 |
| 09:20.01 | hrw | text www browser |
| 09:20.02 | schurig | koen: it's similar to CVS and RCS (when CVS hadn't RCS build in). CVS is an SCM and used a file-version-manager (RCS) for it's underlying work |
| 09:20.28 | schurig | hrw: that's not an SCM either, so you can start using "pure git" :-) |
| 09:20.46 | schurig | koen: and so cogito uses git for it's underlying work |
| 09:21.28 | XorA | hrw: better? |
| 09:21.46 | schurig | http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/cogito/ |
| 09:22.39 | hrw | XorA: much |
| 09:24.07 | XorA | koen: well Im too stupid to figure whats wrong with Italics in abiword, but I do know its only Serif font that doesnt work |
| 09:26.08 | hrw | maybe font is b0rken? |
| 09:27.45 | XorA | hrw: maybe, bugger knows how to debug fonts though |
| 09:28.31 | hrw | what font is that? |
| 09:32.11 | XorA | hrw: Bitstream Vera Serif |
| 09:32.28 | XorA | hrw: Sans and Mono work fine |
| 09:32.42 | hrw | tried Dejavu Serif? |
| 09:32.57 | XorA | hrw: nope |
| 09:33.53 | XorA | hrw: is that packaged for GPE/X? |
| 09:34.08 | hrw | no |
| 09:34.16 | hrw | mickeyl: did you tried hostap 0.4.0? |
| 09:35.53 | mickeyl | not yet |
| 09:36.11 | schurig | mickeyl: how's your Diss ? |
| 09:36.19 | mickeyl | slowly progressing |
| 09:41.31 | koen | gitweb looks nice |
| 09:41.40 | koen | (to judge a tool on it's eyecandy :)) |
| 09:44.07 | hrw | fsck.. my local feed is 3841 packages... |
| 09:44.46 | koen | koen@bitbake:/var/www/feed$ ls | wc -l |
| 09:44.47 | koen | 13103 |
| 09:45.05 | koen | I guess I should cleanup a bit |
| 09:45.57 | hrw | koen: you do world there? |
| 09:46.08 | koen | yep |
| 09:46.15 | koen | multimachine world even |
| 09:46.22 | hrw | I only meta-opie and oce did gpe-image |
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| 09:50.49 | hrw | hmm.. will go back to 2.6.11.. |
| 09:51.01 | XorA | hrw: whats wrong with 2.6.12? |
| 09:51.13 | hrw | XorA: wifi |
| 09:51.45 | hrw | I'm lamer when it goes to wifi subject... 2.6.11 works, 2.6.12-rc not |
| 09:53.43 | mickeyl | guess i should really take a look ;) |
| 09:54.59 | jskcr|lappy | its not a rc for nothing |
| 09:55.01 | jskcr|lappy | :P |
| 09:56.55 | hrw | mickeyl: probably |
| 10:00.23 | RP | If wifi is the only issue, I'm actually quite happy :) |
| 10:00.39 | RP | hrw: How did you find the CF memory handling? |
| 10:00.44 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 10:00.45 | hrw | RP: and my sd card |
| 10:01.01 | hrw | RP: didnt have time to test recently... funeral etc.. |
| 10:01.15 | RP | hrw: I still need to investigate that sd problem |
| 10:01.38 | RP | Too many things to do :) |
| 10:01.50 | RP | I have suspend/resume running on this ipaq though :) |
| 10:02.19 | RP | (under gpe) |
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| 10:03.52 | hrw | mickeyl: libopienet ignore wifi0 but settings/network still show it |
| 10:04.06 | koen|z | RP: malllum cuts your paycheck every time you boot opie? |
| 10:04.10 | hrw | mickeyl: should it be removed from /etc/network/interfaces too? |
| 10:05.23 | XorA | hrw: want a really light html viewer? |
| 10:06.36 | hrw | XorA: now I use justreader |
| 10:06.38 | RP | koen|z: I've not dared try opie on it yet ;-) |
| 10:06.50 | mickeyl | hrw: yes, it should be removed from everywhere |
| 10:06.50 | XorA | hrw: just done links-x11 |
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| 10:09.05 | mithro | howdy people |
| 10:10.11 | ljp | hi |
| 10:10.44 | hrw | hi mithro |
| 10:11.09 | hrw | mickeyl: can qt/e 2.3.10 build with gcc 2.95 work as sharp-compat-lib? |
| 10:11.34 | mickeyl | never tried that, but it should work, yeah |
| 10:12.01 | mithro | anyone here any good at capturing video? |
| 10:12.14 | RP | hi mithro |
| 10:12.49 | hrw | mickeyl: so when we have gcc-2.95 for zauruskernels then qt/e 2.3.10 (and probably libqpe1) can be build with it |
| 10:16.32 | mickeyl | yes, that may be possible |
| 10:16.45 | hrw | OT - someone can suggest 2.1 speakers for desktop machine? |
| 10:17.19 | koen | I have labtec apx4620 which are very good, but labtec is logitech now |
| 10:17.20 | ljp | bose if you can afford them |
| 10:17.38 | hrw | ljp: I dont plan to spend more then 50 eur |
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| 10:24.34 | mithro | can anyone traceroute to www.mithis.com? |
| 10:27.19 | hrw | mithro: host not found here |
| 10:28.10 | hrw | ~nslookup www.mithis.com |
| 10:29.03 | hrw | mithro: trace goes to the end w/o drops - ~130-140ms |
| 10:29.09 | hrw | 160ms |
| 10:29.20 | mithro | hrm... |
| 10:29.52 | hrw | 13 hops from here |
| 10:32.54 | hrw | ~lart ipkg for lack of -force-downgrade |
| 10:33.34 | mickeyl | ok, networksettings now ignores wifi* |
| 10:37.38 | hrw | col |
| 10:37.53 | mithro | ljp: i know your talk back to front now |
| 10:38.47 | hrw | ok. wellenreiter and opiestumbler works. 2.6.11 and hostap 0.3.7 |
| 10:39.47 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3239 10openembedded/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.100.bb: libgpewidget_0.100.bb: fix typo in libgpewidget |
| 10:39.48 | mickeyl | of course ;) |
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| 10:53.10 | hrw | ~seen cwiiis |
| 10:53.13 | ibot | cwiiis <~cwiiis@user-214-207-151-83.e7even.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 1d 10h 5m 9s ago, saying: 'scarper: Have a look on OESF forums, the problem's covered there - you need to edit a config file (I don't know the details off-hand I'm afraid, my PDA isn't affected, but look in the OpenZaurus roms support forum)'. |
| 10:54.16 | koen|lunch | ~lart the people who use the term 'ROM' for flash images |
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| 11:13.38 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Hey - the serial cable works great, thanks very much again :) |
| 11:14.02 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: great |
| 11:14.21 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: so its probably my nullmodem cable suxx |
| 11:14.45 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Did it not work for you? |
| 11:14.55 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: btw - could you upload gxine source into upgrades/source/ dir? |
| 11:15.06 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: I do very little testing |
| 11:15.09 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Wil do |
| 11:17.37 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: gxine source is in the source dir, I don't have permission to enter/write to upgrades/source it seems? |
| 11:17.51 | hrw | argh |
| 11:18.10 | hrw | now you can |
| 11:19.02 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Should I leave it in source/ as well, or move it? |
| 11:19.16 | mithro | yay, ljp's speech is down to 4gig |
| 11:20.22 | hrw | leave in source/ |
| 11:20.34 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: we have to provide source of packages |
| 11:21.07 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: so do the same for matchbox* etc things which you provided |
| 11:21.14 | Cwiiis[away] | k |
| 11:21.44 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: done |
| 11:21.46 | hrw | or treke will shout |
| 11:21.57 | hrw | great |
| 11:22.52 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: btw - someone wrote that killing apmd gave him working on/off button on collie |
| 11:23.50 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Yup, gpe does that already - I'll be working on the kernel though to see what the problem is :) |
| 11:24.15 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Seems any more than one program accessing /dev/apm_bios stops suspend from working |
| 11:24.20 | Cwiiis[away] | Nothing obvious in the code though |
| 11:24.28 | Cwiiis[away] | Will have to put in a load of debug statements |
| 11:24.56 | hrw | ok. time to go |
| 11:25.06 | Cwiiis[away] | cya, thanks again for the serial cable :) |
| 11:25.06 | XorA | Cwiiis[away]: amusingly, that is also the case on 2.6.11 |
| 11:25.17 | Cwiiis[away] | XorA: On collie? |
| 11:25.23 | XorA | Cwiiis[away]: on C7x0 |
| 11:25.56 | Cwiiis[away] | XorA: Well that's odd... So more than one app on apm_bios messes up suspend for C7x0 on 2.6.11? Not on previous 2.6's? |
| 11:26.25 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: np - will probably make few of them |
| 11:26.34 | hrw | I still have 3 connectors left |
| 11:26.38 | XorA | Cwiiis[away]: my fix for 2.6 GPE was to remove apm from X |
| 11:26.47 | hrw | ~lart sharp for tcx3106 |
| 11:26.51 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Cool :) It's very nicely made btw :) |
| 11:27.17 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: nicely? I wouldn't name it like that... |
| 11:27.22 | Cwiiis[away] | XorA: Same as my fix for collie 2.6 gpe (remove apm_bios, kill apmd) |
| 11:27.36 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw: Looks good to me :) hehe |
| 11:27.42 | hrw | Cwiiis[away]: look at tcx3106 side.. |
| 11:27.44 | hrw | cu |
| 11:28.00 | hrw|gone | Cwiiis[away]: anyway - I'm glad to know that it works |
| 11:28.25 | Cwiiis[away] | hrw|gone: tcx3106 = bit that connects to Zaurus? If so, I thought that was nice... hehe - But yeah, cheers :) |
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| 11:46.13 | mithro | ibot seen pb_ |
| 11:47.35 | ibot | pb_ <~pb@2002:5168:d330:1:a00:1fff:fe06:93c> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14h 9m 14s ago, saying: 'treke: yeah, and that'. |
| 12:26.34 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3240 10openembedded/packages/gpsd/ (gpsd_2.23.bb gpsd.inc): |
| 12:26.34 | CIA-9 | Add gpsd 2.23, make an .inc file for gpsd so we can make a gpsd(-clients)-nox later on for the X haters. NOTE: X isn't enabled yet, so relax. TODO: split of some stuff in usr/bin into gpsd-clients. |
| 12:26.34 | CIA-9 | gpsd maintainers: read http://gpsd.berlios.de/CHANGES and see if I didn't make any mistakes. |
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| 12:35.01 | lardman | Is bitkeeper down? I just tried a bk pull bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded and it returns almost straight away |
| 12:36.32 | koen | I just pushed to it |
| 12:38.49 | lardman | strange, I can't ping it, but can open the web page at that address |
| 12:39.31 | b0ti|work | anyone tried enlightenment on a Z yet? I see there are a bunch of packages in OE. |
| 12:41.38 | koen|z | raster did |
| 12:41.50 | lardman | Looks like someone's changed a router somewhere here to disallow ping packets - would this disrupt access to bitkeeper? |
| 12:41.54 | koen|z | and I want to try it on my ipaq |
| 12:42.13 | mickeyl | i added most of the packages to compile EFL |
| 12:42.25 | mickeyl | unfortunately emte more or less broke them |
| 12:42.26 | mickeyl | :D |
| 12:42.37 | mickeyl | didn't get around to repairing them |
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| 12:42.43 | koen|z | has emte dixed the srcuri yet? |
| 12:42.51 | koen|z | fixed* |
| 12:42.56 | mickeyl | no |
| 12:43.07 | koen|z | ~lart emte |
| 12:51.04 | mickeyl | lets see how far meta-e get nowadays |
| 12:54.37 | mickeyl | here we are: |
| 12:54.48 | mickeyl | NOTE: Applying patch 'no-x-test.patch' |
| 12:54.48 | mickeyl | ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed |
| 12:54.48 | mickeyl | ERROR: log data follows (/local/pkg/oe/c7x0/tmp/work/ecore-20050504-r5/temp/log.do_patchcmd.21968) |
| 12:54.48 | mickeyl | | DEBUG: no-x-test no-x-test.patch |
| 12:54.48 | mickeyl | | NOTE: import patch '/local/pkg/oe/packages/packages/ecore/files/no-x-test.patch' as 'no-x-test.patch' |
| 12:54.49 | mickeyl | | ERROR: patch did not apply, try again with force (-f -i ...) |
| 12:54.53 | mickeyl | emte: ping |
| 12:55.38 | koen|z | hmm |
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| 13:02.06 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3241 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): fix ecore compiling |
| 13:06.59 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3240.1.1 10openembedded/packages/edb/edb_1.0.5.003.bb: |
| 13:06.59 | CIA-9 | edb_1.0.5.003.bb: fix src_uri of edb |
| 13:06.59 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.50 | schurig | XorA: patcher -f -i <patch-name> |
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| 13:07.55 | Bernardo | hi |
| 13:07.57 | schurig | XorA: then you see which files have been rejected |
| 13:08.15 | schurig | XorA: then do vi file1.c.rej file1.c |
| 13:08.44 | XorA | schurig: I was more thinking like visual diff, but its patch vs files instead of file vs file |
| 13:09.27 | schurig | XorA: the .rej file contains exactly the patch that did not apply, right in your editor. This is usually better than some visual diff. You fix the reject and do a "patcher -r" and have a new, now clean patch |
| 13:10.03 | schurig | XorA: but granted, if you get rejects in 10 files, you have to "vi" 10 files manually currently |
| 13:10.13 | schurig | or "emacs" or "joe" or whatever ... |
| 13:10.25 | XorA | schurig: vi of course :-) |
| 13:11.35 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3243 10openembedded/packages/edb/ (edb_1.0.5.003.bb edb-native_1.0.5.003.bb): |
| 13:11.35 | CIA-9 | edb_1.0.5.003.bb, edb-native_1.0.5.003.bb: |
| 13:11.35 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.35 | CIA-9 | edb-native_1.0.5.003.bb: |
| 13:11.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.26 | koen | hmm |
| 13:12.36 | koen | eet suffers from the same problems as edb |
| 13:13.12 | koen | 1) falsely using cvs instead of a release 2) -native package tries to install nonexistant libs |
| 13:14.03 | koen | evas pulls in cairo, which now (of course) use a new API |
| 13:14.11 | koen | fun fun fun |
| 13:23.11 | koen | raster: almost all EFL packages pull from cvs instead of e.fd.o, could you take a look at it, and preferrably fix it? |
| 13:40.28 | emte | koen, thats what its supposed to do |
| 13:40.43 | emte | i did butd a release set but it was rejected |
| 13:40.46 | emte | build* |
| 13:40.54 | emte | cvs is supposed to be used |
| 13:41.21 | koen|z | ehm, no |
| 13:41.31 | emte | as well the -native bb are no longer valid |
| 13:41.42 | koen|z | the bb name is foo_1.1 |
| 13:42.00 | koen|z | that means it uses foo-1.1.tar.gz |
| 13:42.07 | emte | everything the -native bb were priorly used for has been fixed and no longer required |
| 13:43.14 | koen|z | so can you bk rm them? |
| 13:43.35 | koen|z | and rename all e .bbs to foo_cvs? |
| 13:44.01 | emte | well the ones in oe are actually invalid as well :P |
| 13:44.25 | emte | they are supposed to be going upstream and getting a valid bb file from cvs |
| 13:44.55 | emte | but yeah i can look into it |
| 13:45.15 | emte | will by bb client still work? |
| 13:45.18 | emte | my* |
| 13:49.44 | koen|z | it should |
| 13:50.01 | emte | k |
| 13:53.40 | emte | should have time on wed to switch em all |
| 13:56.15 | koen | cool, thanks |
| 13:57.35 | emte | np |
| 13:58.13 | lardman | No doubt a silly question - I want to build linux-openzaurus_2.6.12-rc3-mm2, bitbake linux-openzaurus_2.6.12-rc3-mm2 says nothing provides it, what have I done wrong? |
| 13:59.25 | lardman | Something about being too specific in the name? |
| 14:00.59 | emte | just a little |
| 14:01.33 | emte | you dont type anything after the underscore |
| 14:02.15 | lardman | if I do that, 2.6.11 is built - should I remove the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" flag from .12? |
| 14:03.09 | emte | no you should change your kernel version preference |
| 14:03.27 | XorA | lardman: or cheat and use bitbake -b |
| 14:03.42 | b0ti|work | I could build linux-openzaurus with the version name in it and PREFERRED removed. |
| 14:03.43 | lardman | XorA: I want to do gpe-image |
| 14:04.16 | lardman | b0ti|work: I don't have a preferred kernel set anywhere |
| 14:04.42 | b0ti|work | lardman: if you don't have it set, shouldn't .12 be the default? |
| 14:05.09 | lardman | RP did something to prevent that - I wonder if it's the DEFAULT_PREFERRENCE="-1"? |
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| 14:05.56 | b0ti|work | anyway, I built .12 without -b and PREFERRED removed two days ago. |
| 14:06.03 | XorA | lardman: PREFFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus="2.6.12-rc3-mm2" in local.conf |
| 14:07.11 | lardman | XorA: I'll try that |
| 14:07.19 | lardman | b0ti|work: I've no idea :) |
| 14:09.02 | XorA | speaking of PREFERRED_VERSION, whatever happened to the CSL version of gcc in the end? Did anyone ever discover why it was generating slower code? |
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| 14:30.11 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:30.24 | mickeyl | there is a new Sharp PDA on the horizon |
| 14:30.29 | mickeyl | any takers for the codename ? |
| 14:31.23 | koen | portugese waterdog |
| 14:31.31 | koen | mastino |
| 14:32.01 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 14:32.12 | jacques | got a link? :-) |
| 14:32.22 | mickeyl | no link, just hearsay |
| 14:32.38 | XorA | mastif |
| 14:33.09 | XorA | mickeyl: anything juicy in the rumours? |
| 14:33.09 | Bernardo|away | bbl |
| 14:33.51 | koen | I'm betting it will suck monster ass in the connectivity department |
| 14:33.57 | mickeyl | XorA: no. just the fact that there will be a new machine and that it will be higher positioned than the 3000 |
| 14:34.18 | mickeyl | that could mean connectivity or more storage |
| 14:34.55 | koen|z | more storage |
| 14:35.03 | koen|z | who needs bt or wifi? |
| 14:35.14 | mickeyl | not the japanese |
| 14:35.16 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:35.23 | XorA | 20G HD with 802.11g would suit me |
| 14:35.43 | mickeyl | i guess it's a transmitter for the japanese-only RF standard |
| 14:35.49 | mickeyl | wouldn'T surprise me |
| 14:35.50 | mickeyl | heh |
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| 14:37.06 | XorA | mickeyl: I suppose an Imode Z would make sense |
| 14:37.22 | mickeyl | CP|Laptop: hi. could you nurse xfce-image a bit? |
| 14:37.39 | CP|Laptop | sure |
| 14:37.47 | CP|Laptop | tis sick? |
| 14:38.20 | mickeyl | yeah, it doesnt't want to build :) |
| 14:38.31 | mickeyl | one or more of the dependencies are not found |
| 14:38.38 | mickeyl | don't recall which one |
| 14:41.12 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:42.32 | CP|Laptop | mickeyl: hmm - this is a recent change - a --dry-run from last week isn't showing any scaryiness |
| 14:43.04 | mickeyl | a dry run doesn't show RDEPENDS |
| 14:43.11 | CP|Laptop | ahh - its a rdepends... :) |
| 14:43.18 | mickeyl | ya |
| 14:43.20 | CP|Laptop | crap |
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| 14:47.29 | CP|Laptop | mickeyl: does it have something to do with panel-plugins? |
| 14:48.26 | mickeyl | no, i fixed that one. it misses some default theme or so |
| 14:50.27 | CP|Laptop | hmmm... icon-theme? |
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| 14:57.23 | mickeyl | xfc |
| 14:57.23 | mickeyl | e4-panel-theme-curve |
| 14:59.57 | CP|Laptop | mkay |
| 15:01.21 | CP|Laptop | mickeyl: ok - but it looks like you already pulled xfce4-panel-theme-curve from the meta file |
| 15:01.48 | mickeyl | will it work without it? |
| 15:02.00 | mickeyl | i remember that i had another problem |
| 15:02.13 | mickeyl | it didn't build anyway, so i would appreciate if you could try a build |
| 15:02.23 | mickeyl | an xfce-image for the next OZ release would be nice |
| 15:05.50 | CP|Laptop | mickeyl: ok - I'll try a quicky build with your task file |
| 15:06.10 | CP|Laptop | I haven't been having problems lately though - if you get more info on your error, let me knwo |
| 15:06.40 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3241.1.1 10openembedded/packages/qpe-inputhelper/qpe-inputhelper-applet_1.0.0.bb: add qpe-inputhelper-applet for USB keyboards and mice |
| 15:06.47 | mickeyl | k, thanks |
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| 15:13.46 | hrw | re |
| 15:13.56 | hrw | logitech x-230 have nice sound |
| 15:16.06 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/index.php/2005/05/08/year-with-openembedded/ |
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| 15:51.54 | jh_ | XorA: does mplayer-atty require a kernel module or anything special? |
| 15:52.25 | XorA | jh_: not on C7x0 |
| 16:02.06 | Crofton | I sent a patch to the oe list last week or so to update swig to ?.?.24 last week |
| 16:02.16 | Crofton | Can someone apply it please? |
| 16:02.24 | CP|Laptop | mickeyl: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-xfce-base: xfce4-panel-plugins xfce4-mcs-plugins |
| 16:02.28 | CP|Laptop | look familiar? |
| 16:03.58 | hrw | Crofton: can you send it to me? openembedded@hrw.one.pl - I can add it |
| 16:06.35 | hrw | busybox does not know about broadcast field in interfaces? |
| 16:06.59 | Crofton | ok, I sent it to the list, but I can find a copy |
| 16:07.19 | hrw | ok |
| 16:08.32 | Crofton | I bounced the copy I got from the list |
| 16:09.10 | Crofton | I have accumulated some new bb files I need to get moved into the main repo |
| 16:09.16 | hrw | ok |
| 16:09.48 | Crofton | I am working on using OE to support some sdr work done by my research group and thers |
| 16:09.51 | Crofton | er other |
| 16:09.54 | Crofton | s |
| 16:10.13 | hrw | Crofton: what about getting devel access? did you think about it? |
| 16:10.47 | Crofton | well, I should think about it, but I want to make sure I'm not an idiot first :) |
| 16:10.53 | hrw | ;) |
| 16:10.56 | Crofton | and also, bk goes away soon |
| 16:11.03 | CP|Laptop | hey, the rest of us are - you'll fit right in |
| 16:11.07 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:11.11 | hrw | so we move to other SCM |
| 16:11.19 | Crofton | yeah |
| 16:11.31 | Crofton | I'm not sure which is more upsetting |
| 16:11.38 | Crofton | 1: bk going away |
| 16:11.44 | Crofton | 2: rms being right |
| 16:11.46 | Crofton | :) |
| 16:12.32 | Crofton | How do you get devel access? |
| 16:12.57 | CP|Laptop | hmmm - good question - who other then kergoth has access to the bk admin? |
| 16:13.01 | hrw | Crofton: I was sending patches, recipes and got bootstrap-image to the stage then it boot on collie |
| 16:13.08 | hrw | CP|Laptop: schurig & mickeyl iirc |
| 16:13.13 | CP|Laptop | there you go then |
| 16:13.18 | hrw | Crofton: http://www.hrw.one.pl/index.php/2005/05/08/year-with-openembedded/ |
| 16:13.20 | CP|Laptop | send one of them your ssh key |
| 16:13.42 | Crofton | heh, I have to find my ssh key :) |
| 16:13.52 | Crofton | I'll look for it |
| 16:13.56 | hrw | Crofton: rsa1 key to be more exact |
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| 16:14.28 | Crofton | bk docs say what I need? |
| 16:14.58 | hrw | probably |
| 16:15.28 | Crofton | anyone know why the ts_* utilities didn't get installed on my latest opie image? |
| 16:15.55 | hrw | because they are in separate package |
| 16:16.03 | hrw | which is rarely needed |
| 16:16.28 | Crofton | ok, I am trying to get opie going on an OSK board |
| 16:16.36 | Crofton | there where there 2 weeks ago :) |
| 16:16.42 | hrw | Crofton: bootstrap is working? |
| 16:17.31 | Crofton | yeah |
| 16:17.46 | hrw | great |
| 16:17.49 | Crofton | Even have opie splash screen |
| 16:18.03 | Crofton | touch worked with ts_raw something at on epoint |
| 16:20.22 | hrw | hmm. I have to convert my desktop to utf8... |
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| 16:35.45 | Crofton | hrw, did you get the patch from me? |
| 16:36.20 | hrw | no |
| 16:36.28 | Crofton | bother |
| 16:36.49 | Crofton | I'll drop it in the mail again, I think the wirelss here does silly things |
| 16:37.01 | hrw | maybe |
| 16:38.44 | koen | does anyone know a small usb webcam that's supported in linux? |
| 16:39.07 | koen | I would be a nice addition for my Z + cfu1u |
| 16:43.49 | XorA-gone | c |
| 16:44.28 | mallum | koen: cfu1u ? |
| 16:44.50 | hrw | Crofton: got it |
| 16:45.12 | koen | mallum: http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html |
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| 16:50.12 | mallum | koen: is that pb thing ? |
| 16:50.31 | koen | nope |
| 16:50.41 | koen | that's the interpocket one |
| 16:50.52 | koen | same things, defferent casing |
| 16:50.53 | mallum | koen: how much did that cost ? |
| 16:51.11 | mallum | koen: be interesting to hook one of them dvb usb boxes up to |
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| 16:51.17 | koen | E150 or something |
| 16:51.20 | SirFred | Good evening. |
| 16:51.34 | koen | *way* too expensive |
| 16:52.30 | koen | mallum: I bought it when I got my 2210, and I was under the impression it was supported... |
| 16:53.01 | hrw | Crofton: does swig 1.3.24 can be created by simple "bk mv"? |
| 16:53.20 | mallum | koen: ah ok |
| 16:53.52 | koen | mallum: b0ti and lardman|busy just got it to work under 2.6 |
| 16:55.04 | hrw | Crofton: will try to build them and will push it |
| 16:56.06 | mallum | koen: ah cool |
| 16:56.30 | koen | mallum: it works with my external HD |
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| 17:01.05 | hrw | Crofton: NOTE: [18:59] package swig-1.3.24: completed |
| 17:05.23 | hrw | Smurfs time |
| 17:06.21 | mickeyl | hrw: there's a bug in your first-year-with-zaurus |
| 17:06.30 | mickeyl | "During December 2005 I worked on adding one feature to OPIE launcher" |
| 17:06.40 | mickeyl | time machine? :) |
| 17:06.44 | hrw | ;) |
| 17:07.48 | hrw | fixed |
| 17:09.04 | hrw | NOTE: [19:04] package swig-native-1.3.24: completed |
| 17:09.20 | mickeyl | good |
| 17:12.17 | lardman|busy | koen: what app were you thinking of using for the web cam? |
| 17:12.54 | lardman|busy | koen: I already have one which appears to have a driver in OE - kodak ez200 - must check to see that it's a 2.6 driver though |
| 17:13.12 | koen | lardman|busy: ffmpeg or something like that |
| 17:13.16 | koen | or minisip |
| 17:14.00 | mickeyl | that one is already discontinued |
| 17:14.07 | mickeyl | are there any current ones with 2.6 drivers ? |
| 17:14.15 | mickeyl | i consider buying one as well |
| 17:14.25 | lardman|busy | mickeyl: yes, but I happened to have it |
| 17:22.03 | zecke | hey |
| 17:22.28 | hrw | hi zecke |
| 17:24.20 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07 * r1.3243.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh39/defconfig-h3900: defconfig-h3900: enable sl811 in hh-pxa-hh39 |
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| 17:53.25 | zecke | RP: hey |
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| 18:13.20 | Crofton | hrw, I hadn't thought about bk mv, I just copied the file to the new name |
| 18:15.15 | RP | hi zecke |
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| 18:24.59 | hrw | ~lart author of downthemall firefox extension... |
| 18:27.29 | zecke | treke|home: oh it was sooo sloow because I've profiling on :) |
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| 18:43.44 | Crofton | so the tslib...bb file lists a package tslib-calibrate, but if I put it in my local.conf |
| 18:44.03 | ggilbert | zecke: idiot :p |
| 18:44.05 | Crofton | I get ERROR: Nothing provides tslib-calibrate |
| 18:44.05 | Crofton | ERROR: dependency tslib-calibrate (for task-bootstrap) not satisfied |
| 18:45.15 | hrw | Crofton: tslib-utils |
| 18:45.44 | Crofton | um how would I find that out without asking? |
| 18:46.41 | hrw | Crofton: grep Packages.filelist? |
| 18:47.01 | Crofton | where is that? |
| 18:47.56 | Crofton | I guess what I want to know is how the tslib bb file creates tslib-utils |
| 18:48.36 | hrw | Crofton: it probably place there all from ${bindir} |
| 18:49.06 | kergoth | Crofton: tslib-calibrate is a package, not a bitbake provider. |
| 18:49.16 | kergoth | Crofton: you added it to the wrong variable. you want RDEPENDS, not DEPENDS> |
| 18:49.27 | kergoth | it only exists at runtime. |
| 18:49.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:49.35 | hrw | hi kergoth |
| 18:49.39 | kergoth | hey |
| 18:50.02 | hrw | food is good idea.. I hope that I got some in fridge.. |
| 18:51.28 | ggilbert | food would be good |
| 18:51.41 | ggilbert | but everyone here is too lazy to go pick lunch up :p |
| 19:08.24 | zecke | kergoth: where do you need help on bitbake-ng? |
| 19:41.43 | hrw | cu |
| 19:43.11 | zecke | ggilbert: start the nightly builds this evening please ;) |
| 19:43.40 | zecke | ggilbert: 1400 files parsed 1.4% of 712MB ram is used |
| 19:45.07 | koen | 1400? |
| 19:45.10 | ljp | you mean, start the rewrite |
| 19:45.14 | koen | that doesn't sound right |
| 19:46.48 | zecke | parsing all files took only 1.4% of ram (top doesn't even attach a 'M' to any of the columns) |
| 19:46.49 | ggilbert | ljp: ? |
| 19:47.11 | ljp | :) |
| 19:47.38 | ljp | trying to be funny in the early morning |
| 19:48.01 | ggilbert | you failed miserably |
| 19:48.41 | ljp | was funny to me at the time |
| 19:53.43 | zecke | wow my bitbake is fucking fast now |
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| 20:02.13 | zecke | ok nobody is interested :) |
| 20:02.16 | RP | zecke: I am |
| 20:02.29 | RP | zecke: Which backend are you using? |
| 20:02.41 | RP | zecke: I suspect the others just don't believe you :) |
| 20:03.03 | zecke | RP: any backend will do |
| 20:03.17 | zecke | RP: make.pkgdata is now something else than a {} |
| 20:03.23 | RP | zecke: What did you do to it? |
| 20:03.41 | RP | And that's all it needs? |
| 20:03.53 | zecke | RP: I'm currently using data_smart with the DataSmartDict |
| 20:04.12 | zecke | RP: on __setitem__ I save which file I handled |
| 20:04.20 | zecke | RP: on __getitem__ I unpickle the data |
| 20:04.44 | zecke | RP: on initial load it might be a bit slower |
| 20:04.53 | zecke | RP: because every file gets loaded two or three times... |
| 20:04.54 | RP | Clever. I'm surprised nobody did that before :) |
| 20:05.12 | zecke | RP: yeah... so obvious isn't it? |
| 20:05.18 | RP | It is :) |
| 20:05.29 | RP | I'm so used to being told all the data is needed in memory... |
| 20:05.41 | zecke | RP: oh it is needed |
| 20:05.46 | zecke | RP: but probably not at once |
| 20:05.51 | RP | zecke: but not all at once |
| 20:05.54 | RP | exactly |
| 20:06.19 | RP | zecke: I'd be interested to see the patch :) |
| 20:06.30 | zecke | It is not O(1) |
| 20:06.38 | RP | and to hear what kergoth has to say about it |
| 20:07.02 | zecke | RP: It was 17:30 at work and we looked at bin/bitbake |
| 20:07.24 | zecke | RP: and suddenly Mr. Luckas had admitingly a second before me the idea to not use {} for pkgdata :} |
| 20:07.52 | RP | nice :) |
| 20:08.58 | zecke | RP: I'll send you my patches directory |
| 20:09.08 | RP | I'll continue to finish off my C++ work as I suspect that will also have a use |
| 20:09.16 | RP | zecke: that would be great, thanks |
| 20:09.37 | zecke | RP: I'll do some other optimisations |
| 20:10.09 | RP | zecke: I really want to get a threading bitbake running |
| 20:13.23 | zecke | RP: rpurdie@rpsys.net? |
| 20:17.34 | nhorlock | zecke: 2+2=5 |
| 20:17.35 | koen | heh |
| 20:17.38 | koen | 42 |
| 20:18.57 | zecke | nhorlock: 2+2i + 2+2i = ? would be what I need more... |
| 20:19.18 | RP | zecke: correct |
| 20:19.27 | koen | 4+4i? |
| 20:19.35 | koen | my complex math is a bit rusty |
| 20:19.46 | zecke | koen: I know solve(%); from maple but I need the solution path as well ;) |
| 20:19.49 | RP | yes, 4+4i :) |
| 20:20.01 | koen | mmm, maple |
| 20:20.14 | koen | I'm stuck with matlab for the next months |
| 20:20.54 | RP | They never let me use computers for things like that. Paper and pen were all we got :-/ |
| 20:20.57 | koen | I just love the maple telnet interface :) |
| 20:21.24 | zecke | koen: use octave? |
| 20:21.37 | koen | never tried it |
| 20:21.56 | zecke | koen: mostly the same syntax as maple |
| 20:22.02 | zecke | as matlab even |
| 20:24.58 | zecke | http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00007KMP6001002/302-5900949-5780842 <- good song, that inspired us for bitbake hacking |
| 20:25.51 | zecke | OT: did someone tried python profiling with kcachgrind yet? |
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| 20:36.59 | hrw | adding complex is easy.. divide is more fun |
| 20:38.04 | zecke | hrw: divide and multiply will not be done with the polar representation |
| 20:39.53 | hrw | zecke: I didnt had complex on math lessons but on electrotechnic ones |
| 20:40.05 | hrw | 2+j2 instead of 2+2i |
| 20:40.19 | koen | yeah |
| 20:40.27 | koen | j all the way |
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| 20:40.49 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 20:40.51 | koen | e^(j*pi) = -1 |
| 20:40.54 | koen | hey reenoo_ |
| 20:41.09 | koen | that's the easiest thing to remember |
| 20:41.10 | zecke | hrw: I'm more familiar from that perspective as well... |
| 20:41.25 | reenoo_ | yo koen |
| 20:41.33 | Crofton | even better e^(j*pi) + 1 = 0 |
| 20:41.56 | Crofton | relates the five most important numbers, e, j, pi, 1, and 0 |
| 20:41.58 | koen | that shows almost all elemantary math stuff |
| 20:42.08 | zecke | reenoo_: did you ever profile python code? |
| 20:43.10 | Crofton | How can I get push access to the OE repo? |
| 20:44.56 | reenoo_ | zecke: for a previous job, yeah. but I just used some tools a coworker had prepared. |
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| 20:47.23 | hrw | Crofton: the usual way - patches, maintaining etc work |
| 20:47.44 | zecke | I'm using hotshot and kcachegrind now |
| 20:48.12 | zecke | RP: did you try it yet? |
| 20:48.31 | RP | zecke: Not yet. Just about to though |
| 20:48.56 | hrw | zecke: does your bitbake version works like should? |
| 20:49.10 | zecke | hrw: looks like |
| 20:49.17 | hrw | great |
| 20:49.32 | zecke | hrw: wanna try it? |
| 20:49.44 | zecke | One ride 5 sloty ;) |
| 20:49.46 | hrw | zecke: I can get tester probably |
| 20:50.03 | hrw | zecke: McGregor use OE on 192M of ram |
| 20:50.11 | hrw | ~seen mcgregor |
| 20:50.14 | ibot | mcgregor <mcgregor@helios.et.put.poznan.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 21d 1h 30m 43s ago, saying: 'mikey: I've tampered with wellenreiter code and now I'm able to scan with wirelless extendsions differencess..'. |
| 20:50.31 | zecke | probably he is still busy compiling |
| 20:50.34 | hrw | ;) |
| 20:51.03 | hrw | zecke: I talk with him nearly each day via jabber so giveme url of patches and I will get tester tomorrow (can test also) |
| 20:51.21 | hrw | zecke: I can test by running new build of meta-opie tomorrow |
| 20:51.34 | zecke | hrw: the patches are pretty rough |
| 20:51.45 | zecke | hrw: as much stuff might not be needed |
| 20:52.50 | hrw | zecke: tomorrow I will probably have lots of work to do so all I can do is give patches a shot by running build |
| 20:56.18 | lardman | I have a gpe-image build error, right at the end while things are bing configured: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-task-settings: kernel-module-ipt-state |
| 20:56.33 | zecke | hrw: I will try hard to create clean patches |
| 20:56.38 | hrw | ok |
| 20:56.45 | zecke | hrw: but I see some problem I can't explain |
| 20:57.03 | lardman | Do I need to add this module in the defconfig, as I have iptables built already |
| 20:57.11 | zecke | ${OPIE-VERSION} instead of ${OPIE_VERSION} |
| 20:58.29 | RP | zecke: Its running. 400/2319 files so far :) |
| 20:58.58 | zecke | RP: how much memory is occupied? |
| 20:59.07 | RP | Memory use is static at about 50MB or so |
| 20:59.22 | zecke | 50mb |
| 20:59.24 | zecke | damn |
| 20:59.37 | lardman | Or shall I add an iptstate .bb? |
| 20:59.53 | RP | zecke: I think that's pretty good going personally :) |
| 21:00.31 | koen | lardman: does 2.6 have that module? |
| 21:00.57 | zecke | I've hotshotted parsing of the bb files |
| 21:00.59 | koen | lardman: the dep is from gpe-shield |
| 21:01.04 | lardman | koen: Not sure, this is a build of 2.6.12, I'll have another look |
| 21:01.12 | zecke | now transofrming it to kcachegrind format and it... |
| 21:02.11 | RP | zecke: Now on 1200/2319. Memory use is 44MB (it was 42 before) |
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| 21:06.46 | zecke | on parsing 24% of the time is spent in expand :} |
| 21:07.06 | zecke | RP: but only 8% in the feeder |
| 21:07.30 | RP | zecke: Its finished reading the files. Now its printing a load of "Gettings key...". Total memory usage is still about 44MB |
| 21:08.02 | RP | zecke: I suspect we could use that C++ parser to good effect |
| 21:08.07 | reenoo_ | heh. is that with sqlite? |
| 21:08.40 | zecke | reenoo_: god no |
| 21:08.47 | RP | reenoo_: No, it just uses some different ideas about cache files |
| 21:08.48 | zecke | reenoo_: just with some obvious thinking |
| 21:08.51 | hrw | lardman: you should enable whole netfilter in c7x0 kernels probably |
| 21:09.07 | reenoo_ | zecke: cool. that pretty spiffy then :) |
| 21:09.15 | reenoo_ | that's even |
| 21:09.47 | reenoo_ | note to self: don't do french homework and IRCing at the same time |
| 21:10.27 | hrw | lardman: 2.6/c7x0 has very limited amount of modules enabled when compared to 2.4.18-sharp one |
| 21:11.21 | RP | Its because when I was doing the development kernels, I didn't want to wait for modules to build all the time |
| 21:11.38 | hrw | RP: normal thing |
| 21:11.43 | RP | Someone just needs to tell me which ones we need. I'm only enabling ones we need |
| 21:11.54 | koen | RP: all of them |
| 21:12.10 | koen | (except pci and stuff) |
| 21:12.51 | RP | I'm not enabling anything we don't have a use for. That's pointless |
| 21:12.51 | hrw | RP: btw - 2.6 kernels are much bigger then 2.4 ones? |
| 21:12.52 | RP | Sadly, yes :-( |
| 21:12.52 | koen | It's a bit annoying I have to rebuilt kernels to have some modules |
| 21:13.02 | RP | So tell me which ones are missing... |
| 21:13.08 | hrw | I saw that 2.6.12-rc has many things moved to modules.. |
| 21:13.31 | RP | We ran out of space - the kernel was too big |
| 21:13.43 | RP | I only moved irda |
| 21:13.55 | koen | usb-storage, with scsistuff, bluetooth, usb clients, usb host |
| 21:14.03 | koen | (that was with 2.6.11) |
| 21:14.19 | RP | bluetooth is in now, I'll add the others |
| 21:14.29 | lardman | koen: Do you know whether ipt-state is in 2.6.11? I can't see it in 2.6.12 but presumably it should be there? |
| 21:14.40 | koen | lardman: no idea, sorry |
| 21:15.27 | koen | XorA-gone: did you push that abiword glade change? |
| 21:15.30 | hrw | lardman: device drivers->networking->netfilter |
| 21:15.39 | RP | zecke: bitbake seems quite happy - the build is running fine here |
| 21:16.02 | hrw | lardman: or device drivers->networking->networking options->netfilter |
| 21:16.13 | lardman | hrw: yep, and just enable IP tables? |
| 21:16.24 | hrw | lardman: all of netfilter |
| 21:16.26 | koen | zecke: can bitbake make a dependency graph now? |
| 21:16.35 | koen | RP: and ipv6 |
| 21:17.51 | RP | My kernel builds are going to take hours now, aren't they :-/ |
| 21:17.56 | hrw | I'm waiting for a day when mickeyl will upgrade to 2.6.12-rc and resolve WE v0 problem |
| 21:18.30 | hrw | RP: build with some modules enabled, leave all modules enabled just for tests and bk pushes.. |
| 21:19.27 | RP | hrw: That relies on my keeping the modules change out of my pushes... |
| 21:20.02 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:20.57 | lardman | hrw: Ok, I've done that, thanks |
| 21:21.19 | hrw | np |
| 21:23.07 | reenoo_ | lardman: where's that failing dependency from? |
| 21:24.01 | reenoo_ | (kernel modules should never be listed in DEPENDS) |
| 21:24.22 | reenoo_ | s/DEPENDS/RDEPENDS/ |
| 21:24.22 | lardman | reenoo_: koen said it's from gpe-shield |
| 21:26.50 | Luke-Jr | yea |
| 21:26.57 | Luke-Jr | I took gpe-shield out of my metapkg |
| 21:30.13 | zecke | RP: wtf, somehow my python runs amock again |
| 21:32.03 | zecke | lol I popped everything |
| 21:32.04 | zecke | damn |
| 21:33.22 | reenoo_ | hmm |
| 21:33.24 | reenoo_ | no cia |
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| 21:33.44 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 21:34.02 | zecke | lol |
| 21:34.10 | reenoo_ | <cia> gpe-shield: demote kernel-module-ipt-state to RRECOMMENDS |
| 21:38.23 | Crofton | anyone here know much about how the tslib_cvs.bb file works? |
| 21:38.40 | Crofton | I need to add ts.conf and tslib.sh for omap5912osk machine |
| 21:43.25 | RP | Crofton: It pulls them from the files directory depending on the machine |
| 21:43.49 | SirFred | Good night. |
| 21:44.02 | RP | Crofton: Sorry, tslib/MACHINE directory in that case |
| 21:44.03 | Crofton | OK, so the correct thing to do is create ./tslib/omap5912osk |
| 21:44.08 | RP | Goodnight SirFred |
| 21:44.19 | RP | Crofton: Yes |
| 21:44.21 | Crofton | there are some other files in ./tslib that confuse me :) |
| 21:44.56 | Crofton | I figured the machine name directory was the thing to do, mainly curious why the other files like ts.conf-woof exist |
| 21:45.11 | RP | Special cases mostly |
| 21:45.20 | Crofton | ok |
| 21:45.35 | Crofton | :wq |
| 21:45.40 | Crofton | focus! |
| 21:49.47 | zecke | *hint* *hint* *hint* |
| 21:50.46 | Crofton | I wish I could do something about that |
| 21:50.59 | Crofton | Free omaps for all :) |
| 21:51.16 | zecke | don't worry |
| 21:51.57 | zecke | do one still need Windoze to program the DSP? |
| 21:52.19 | Crofton | I think there are command line compilers for DSP on TI website |
| 21:52.27 | Crofton | I ahven't made it that far yet |
| 21:53.14 | Crofton | I really need an omap with high speed usb |
| 21:53.40 | zecke | Hook PCI-X to the OMAP |
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| 21:56.56 | Crofton | How does /etc/fstab get built? |
| 22:00.04 | Crofton | answer: base-files.....bb |
| 22:09.17 | mickey|tired | evening |
| 22:09.20 | mickey|tired | zecke: congrats |
| 22:10.27 | zecke | mickey|tired: mickeyl@vanille.de |
| 22:10.49 | mickey|tired | without the 'l' |
| 22:11.03 | mickey|tired | it's mickeyl@handhelds.org or mickey@Vanille.de :) |
| 22:11.19 | mickey|tired | RP: the socket card is underway |
| 22:11.45 | zecke | mickey|tired: damn created mickeyl@vanille.de ;) |
| 22:11.50 | mickey|tired | heh |
| 22:11.56 | mickey|tired | good idea |
| 22:12.33 | mickey|tired | d'oh |
| 22:12.36 | mickey|tired | already in |
| 22:12.51 | mickey|tired | as is your mail |
| 22:12.52 | zecke | create even... |
| 22:13.15 | zecke | mickey|tired: it is not cleaned up |
| 22:14.02 | mickey|tired | np. just curious about the attempt |
| 22:14.29 | zecke | mickey|tired: it is freaking obvious |
| 22:14.33 | mickey|tired | <cia> fix task-xfce-base </cia> |
| 22:15.00 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3244.1.2 10openembedded/packages/meta/task-xfce-base.bb: fix dependency in task-xfce-base. xfce-image builds now. lets see if it works... |
| 22:15.15 | reenoo_ | hehe |
| 22:15.21 | mickey|tired | hmm |
| 22:15.25 | RP | mickey|tired: thanks |
| 22:15.45 | mickey|tired | very good, that looks like it doesn't infer too much with my refactoring of bb |
| 22:15.51 | RP | zecke: This build it still running and looks to be doing the right things |
| 22:16.16 | RP | mickey|tired: I'm keen to try and build on zecke's work |
| 22:17.03 | RP | Given bitbake 1.1 has been out a while, I'd say we could consider some more invasive changes to bitbake |
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| 22:18.24 | zecke | mickey|tired: did you look at it yet? |
| 22:18.33 | zecke | mickey|tired: probably only data_smart.py (the last 20 lines) |
| 22:18.41 | zecke | mickey|tired: and pkgdata patch is interesting |
| 22:18.47 | RP | zecke: Good idea. You can probably split your patches into cleanup and enhancement |
| 22:18.49 | mickey|tired | looking now |
| 22:20.11 | mickey|tired | interesting |
| 22:20.16 | mickey|tired | surprisingly obvious, even |
| 22:20.42 | zecke | mickey|tired: it was a 51% to 49% shared idea |
| 22:20.53 | zecke | I only hold 49% as I was 1 sec too late to start talking |
| 22:21.08 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 22:21.14 | mickey|tired | hehe |
| 22:22.37 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3244.1.1 10openembedded/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: bump cvsdate and add preferred provider for x11 |
| 22:22.43 | mickey|tired | boah |
| 22:22.47 | mickey|tired | CIA-9, you are LAGGGING |
| 22:23.16 | RP | I've just pushed and its not said anything... |
| 22:24.00 | RP | <CIA> linux-oz-2.6: enable more modules |
| 22:24.15 | mickey|tired | FYI: I've done some tests to monotone and the latest release looks not bad. I'd say we decide on either that or cogito, depending on the state of cogito in 6 weeks |
| 22:24.26 | mickey|tired | s/to monotone/using monotone/ |
| 22:25.01 | zecke | okay |
| 22:25.01 | RP | Does monotone have a web interface? |
| 22:25.16 | zecke | mickey|tired: what is that spi/spy you use on your website? |
| 22:25.18 | mickey|tired | ya, monotree |
| 22:25.23 | zecke | or is it called spyce? |
| 22:25.24 | mickey|tired | zecke: that's Spyce |
| 22:25.31 | mickey|tired | Python Server Pages |
| 22:25.32 | mickey|tired | so to speak |
| 22:25.39 | zecke | http://spyce.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:25.42 | mickey|tired | same as php, just better |
| 22:25.45 | mickey|tired | s/better/Python/ |
| 22:25.47 | mickey|tired | heh |
| 22:26.00 | RP | :) |
| 22:26.15 | zecke | python, same and php in one sentence? |
| 22:26.22 | RP | When I get a spare minute I'll have to check them out |
| 22:26.30 | mickey|tired | it's fricking cool |
| 22:26.32 | mickey|tired | look at that: |
| 22:26.39 | RP | cognito seems to be moving on fast |
| 22:27.10 | zecke | cognito or cogito? |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | <h1>Package '[[= request.uri("path").split("/")[3] ]]'</h1> |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | <pre> |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | [[\ |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.26 | mickey|tired | ar.gz | tar -tvz" % request.uri("path").split('/')[3] ).read() |
| 22:27.29 | mickey|tired | ]] |
| 22:27.31 | mickey|tired | </pre> |
| 22:27.40 | mickey|tired | this is from my python packagebrowser |
| 22:28.14 | RP | zecke: cogito. I just can't type... |
| 22:28.17 | mickey|tired | yeah, cogito is progressing like hell |
| 22:28.42 | zecke | mickey|tired: kewl, I meant how can one compare php to python |
| 22:29.12 | mickey|tired | i can - since I just know that php is a language embedded in html pages |
| 22:29.15 | mickey|tired | dunno anything more about that |
| 22:29.16 | mickey|tired | heh |
| 22:30.08 | zecke | mickey|tired: you're really tired ;) |
| 22:30.13 | mickey|tired | ya no kidding |
| 22:30.19 | mickey|tired | good work on BB. i'll go to bed now |
| 22:30.24 | mickey|tired | g'night |
| 22:30.30 | reenoo_ | 'night mickey|tired |
| 22:30.39 | zecke | mickey|tired: cya, we will chat tomorrow |
| 22:30.42 | mickey|zzZZzz | ya |
| 22:36.26 | zecke | RP: http://handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/oe/cachegrind_output* |
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| 22:36.34 | zecke | RP: use kcachegrind to browse the data |
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| 22:38.24 | zecke | hex |
| 22:47.39 | tigrux | oct |
| 22:47.43 | tigrux | :-) |
| 22:55.44 | RP | zecke: This has just exited with an AttributeError (dict object has no attribute setVar) |
| 22:56.01 | RP | I've lost the full traceback but will reproduce tmorrow |
| 22:56.52 | zecke | RP: oh fix classes/package.bbclass |
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| 23:02.28 | zecke | RP: http://handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/oe/package.bbclass |
| 23:03.44 | reenoo_ | yay |
| 23:04.08 | reenoo_ | zecke: fyi, I can now fork processes and communicate with them via pipes from haskell :) |
| 23:04.17 | RP | zecke: Ah, right. I'll try that tomorrow |
| 23:04.21 | RP | Time for bed now |
| 23:04.30 | reenoo_ | good call |
| 23:04.37 | zecke | reenoo_: wow |
| 23:04.46 | RP | 'night all |
| 23:04.52 | reenoo_ | 'night RP |
| 23:06.10 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 23:15.58 | zecke | yeah nite |
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