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| 00:09.07 | aloph1 | 'lo folks... please could anyone point me where to get the snapshots instead neither from bitkeeper and from http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/, once the last one is offline since a couple of weeks ago (i think so)? |
| 00:13.04 | Luke-Jr | Where does OZ's linphone-hh package come from? |
| 00:13.16 | Luke-Jr | I can only find OE builds for 'linphone' |
| 00:13.20 | Luke-Jr | (w/o -hh) |
| 00:13.28 | Luke-Jr | There |
| 00:13.45 | Luke-Jr | There's about 17 dependencies fewer needed by the -hh one |
| 00:13.46 | TheMasterMind1 | look inside it's bb file, it should define the -hh package in there with what files ot put in it |
| 00:14.02 | Luke-Jr | TheMasterMind1: They're the same program... |
| 00:14.09 | Luke-Jr | just -hh has fewer deps |
| 00:14.30 | TheMasterMind1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.46 | Luke-Jr | wonder why I didn't notice that |
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| 00:36.51 | Luke-Jr | I wonder if it would be possible to detect the back end of a stylus and convert it to a rightclick |
| 00:37.18 | TheMasterMind1 | doubtful |
| 00:37.24 | JohnAK | How would the back end be different than the front end? |
| 00:37.31 | Luke-Jr | it's thicker |
| 00:37.56 | JohnAK | I've got 3 Styli and they are all different sizes for the tip |
| 00:38.07 | Luke-Jr | training? |
| 00:38.29 | JohnAK | No, just for different pda's |
| 00:38.41 | Luke-Jr | yea, so train X/GPE/whatever for the sizes |
| 00:39.13 | JohnAK | I think you would be more likely to get just part of the back recognised instead of the whole thing , maybe whatever edge touched first |
| 00:45.06 | TheMasterMind1 | the touchscreen driver usually doesn't report how big the area of contact was |
| 00:45.28 | Luke-Jr | o |
| 00:46.09 | Luke-Jr | too bad it didn't just report every 'pixel' touched |
| 00:47.10 | Luke-Jr | if it did, we could do vague fingerprint reading (not for security, maybe, but autologin on assumed-secure handhelds) |
| 00:49.12 | JohnAK | Are OZ 3.5.3 and Familiar 0.8.2 binary compatible? Or is it like OZ and Sharp Rom's where there's differences in how things are compiled? |
| 00:50.09 | Luke-Jr | (tho I could be wrong) |
| 00:50.14 | JohnAK | I know 3.5.x is compatible with itself, and with sharp-compat or whatever its been re-named to it's compatible with the sharp roms and maybe oz 3.3.6 |
| 00:52.18 | Luke-Jr | Are OZ and Familiar for the same archs? |
| 00:52.29 | JohnAK | Yup ARM |
| 00:53.01 | JohnAK | I'm also wondering what makes OZ so much faster than the sharp rom. |
| 00:53.21 | Luke-Jr | newer glibc/gcc? |
| 00:53.42 | JohnAK | Check this out |
| 00:53.56 | JohnAK | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25406.png That's my Jornada 720 that I've hacked up to work with Linux |
| 00:54.10 | JohnAK | I'ts using a familiar 0.8.2 image with a kernel I found elsewhere on the net (2.4) |
| 00:54.21 | JohnAK | vs this http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25570.png which is my 5500 |
| 00:54.39 | JohnAK | Now my 5500 blows the comparison 5500 out of the water speed wise |
| 00:54.43 | Luke-Jr | that's a wide screen |
| 00:54.48 | JohnAK | 640x240 |
| 00:55.00 | Luke-Jr | s/screen/aspect ratio |
| 00:58.43 | JohnAK | its nice for websurfing and book reading |
| 00:58.48 | JohnAK | and I hope its nice for GPS :) |
| 00:59.08 | JohnAK | some apps work fine with that resolution, others look like crap. |
| 01:00.11 | JohnAK | Time to go home, Later. |
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| 01:22.48 | chouimat | night |
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| 01:35.54 | Cwiiis | Luke-Jr: I think familiar is compiled without soft-float, so OZ and familiar are not compatible (at the moment) |
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| 01:54.42 | treke|home | soft-float and gcc3 are the main reasons oz is faster than the sharp os |
| 02:07.25 | emte | cmon, you knwo twh truth ... its the developers not the tools :P |
| 02:07.30 | emte | know the* |
| 02:09.52 | treke|home | emte: yeah, it's the developers who had the balls to break bc :p |
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| 02:12.29 | JohnAK | OK soft-float and gcc3, Next question, Can I use those without a special kernel on my device? |
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| 07:06.14 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:23.27 | zecke | hey |
| 07:28.50 | greg72 | hi zecke koen |
| 07:29.11 | zecke | hey |
| 07:29.22 | koen | hey zecke & greg72 |
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| 07:33.09 | XorA | morning |
| 07:33.09 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 07:33.15 | bluelightning | hi XorA |
| 07:33.18 | koen | hey bluelightning |
| 07:33.21 | koen | hey XorA |
| 07:33.23 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 07:55.45 | RP | morning all |
| 07:56.09 | greg72 | welcome bluelghtning, XorA and RP |
| 07:56.20 | greg72 | s/lg/lig/ |
| 07:57.20 | bluelightning | hi RP |
| 07:57.22 | bluelightning | hi greg72 |
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| 08:00.01 | hrw | hi |
| 08:00.26 | greg72 | hi hrw |
| 08:01.39 | mickeyl | *yawn* |
| 08:01.42 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 08:01.43 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 08:02.04 | greg72 | g'd m'ning, mickeyl |
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| 08:03.05 | mickeyl | koen: ping |
| 08:03.14 | ade|desk | morning folks |
| 08:04.32 | bluelightning | hi mickeyl, hrw, ade|desk |
| 08:07.26 | hrw | heh.. my normally used server died.. irssi cannot connect from work.. |
| 08:07.50 | hrw|work | so I installed KVirc... I dont like gui irc clients. |
| 08:07.55 | greg72 | why do I have tmp/cross/lib/gcc/powerpc-linux-uclibc/3.4.3/include/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux/linux ? Is it a problem? |
| 08:08.06 | koen | heh |
| 08:08.15 | koen | that's a lot of linux :) |
| 08:08.20 | greg72 | oh |
| 08:09.03 | XorA | greg72: looks like a circular link |
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| 08:09.57 | mickeyl | koen: do we want to change our default ipkg.conf so that lists get held in RAM ? |
| 08:10.08 | mickeyl | koen: What was the magic sequence to accomplish that again? |
| 08:10.17 | Bernardo | good morning guys |
| 08:10.21 | koen | lists_dir ext /path/to/lists |
| 08:10.25 | koen | hey Bernardo |
| 08:10.28 | hrw|work | dsdshi Bernardo |
| 08:10.31 | mickeyl | ah right |
| 08:10.33 | mickeyl | morning Bernardo |
| 08:10.50 | koen | mickeyl: that might blow up on system with little ram |
| 08:10.51 | greg72 | XorA: but, beside eating up disk space, does it crash my cross-tools? |
| 08:11.02 | hrw|work | on collie I had lists_dir set to /media/cf/feed/lists/ |
| 08:11.08 | XorA | greg72: dunno does it? |
| 08:11.22 | mickeyl | koen: 64MB systems should be ok, shouldn't theyß |
| 08:11.23 | mickeyl | ? |
| 08:11.26 | greg72 | For some simple programs it didn't |
| 08:12.06 | koen | mickeyl: yes |
| 08:12.11 | greg72 | where should I look for the root of the problem? uClibc install script? |
| 08:12.14 | bluelightning | hi Bernardo |
| 08:12.27 | koen | mickeyl: the big plus is that ipkg doesn't have to parse the lists on boot |
| 08:12.40 | mickeyl | koen: yeah, right. |
| 08:12.52 | mickeyl | all or Zaurii except the 5000 have 64MB RAM |
| 08:12.57 | mickeyl | s/or/our/ |
| 08:13.01 | hrw|work | mickeyl: and 5600 |
| 08:13.06 | mickeyl | ah darn |
| 08:13.07 | mickeyl | right |
| 08:13.08 | koen | and the c700 |
| 08:13.14 | mickeyl | what? c700 as well? |
| 08:13.16 | mickeyl | tss tss |
| 08:13.18 | koen | yes |
| 08:13.36 | mickeyl | nah it's nice anyway |
| 08:14.03 | hrw|work | koen: you should throw it in my direction |
| 08:14.18 | mickeyl | can't get enough of these toys, eh? :) |
| 08:14.25 | koen | clamshells are quite nice |
| 08:14.27 | hrw|work | mickeyl: ;) |
| 08:14.38 | koen | and about the same size as old-style ipaqs: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/ipaq+z.jpg |
| 08:15.13 | mickeyl | that's a nice picture, can |
| 08:15.19 | mickeyl | i use it for the newsletter ? |
| 08:15.30 | koen | sure |
| 08:15.48 | Bernardo | mickeyl: remind me tonight to take decent pics of my C1000 |
| 08:15.50 | mickeyl | which model is the ipaq? |
| 08:15.54 | mickeyl | Bernardo: will do |
| 08:15.55 | koen | h55550 |
| 08:16.07 | hrw|work | koen: under gpe those icons under screen are also not used? |
| 08:16.26 | Bernardo | the feed I put on my site for teh akita is go. I am using it now |
| 08:16.31 | koen | not that I know off |
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| 08:17.40 | koen | mickeyl: my favourite arrangement is running apps on the ipaq with the DISPLAY pointing to the Z |
| 08:17.42 | Bernardo | hrw|work: those are used as the special keys in sharp's rom, so maybe we can use them some day. |
| 08:17.50 | mickeyl | koen: hehe, that's cool |
| 08:17.52 | mickeyl | X rulez |
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| 08:19.50 | mickeyl | h3600 is not really progressing or is it? |
| 08:19.56 | mickeyl | in 2.6, that is |
| 08:20.05 | koen | not really |
| 08:20.20 | koen | it uses an asic hooked to an uart |
| 08:20.45 | koen | h3800 and beyond are reaching a useable state |
| 08:21.30 | mickeyl | nice |
| 08:21.36 | Bernardo | mickeyl: what do you think of that thread in oesf, claiming that the axim has similar hardware to the c1000/c3000, and we could share the same codebase for 2.6? |
| 08:21.46 | mickeyl | Bernardo: this is more or less... BS :) |
| 08:22.05 | mickeyl | CPU is irrelevant |
| 08:22.09 | mickeyl | on PDAs, that is |
| 08:22.24 | mickeyl | the differences lay in the peripherals and this is what takes time to support |
| 08:22.48 | koen | mickeyl: if they mean the complete source as codebase, sure :) |
| 08:22.58 | mickeyl | CXK support won't be too hard from what I've seen |
| 08:23.02 | mickeyl | koen: heh, indeed :) |
| 08:23.07 | Bernardo | guessed as much... but is their port of the fb usable? |
| 08:23.21 | hrw|work | Bernardo: then it can be used |
| 08:23.35 | mickeyl | Bernardo: yeah, there are quite some pxafb implementations around |
| 08:23.44 | koen | Bernardo: which thread is that? |
| 08:23.55 | Bernardo | koen: let me look it up |
| 08:24.38 | Luke-Jr | Are any OE-supported handhelds fast enough to compress speex in realtime? |
| 08:25.03 | koen | most of them are, iirc |
| 08:25.16 | koen | it all depends on the bitrate |
| 08:25.45 | Bernardo | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=12171 |
| 08:26.20 | Bernardo | hrw|work: I do hope so, as those are nice when using the clamshels in portrait mode |
| 08:26.35 | koen | all you need is wlan and a builtin microphone |
| 08:27.05 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 08:27.12 | mickeyl | that's the killer application for the SL6000 |
| 08:27.22 | mickeyl | guess I should try to use it at some point of time |
| 08:28.30 | hrw|work | Bernardo: some people use kphonepi |
| 08:28.36 | RP | Bernardo: You'd be far better taking the 2.6 c7x0 kernel as a base. Trust me on this... |
| 08:28.42 | Bernardo | mickeyl: have you put the akita beta feed up? |
| 08:28.43 | hrw|work | but it is zautrix port so who knows how it works.. |
| 08:28.48 | Bernardo | RP: I trust you... :) |
| 08:29.06 | mickeyl | Bernardo: not yet. since i only got 13KB/sec I went to sleep before it finished |
| 08:29.10 | mickeyl | let me see if it's complete |
| 08:29.52 | Bernardo | hrw|work: my mother-in-law uses skype, and since it isn't standard... |
| 08:29.52 | RP | Bernardo: The CXK patches look like a hacked version of corgi support to me |
| 08:29.52 | mickeyl | Bernardo: yah, it's complete. do you have some tested images around? |
| 08:30.15 | RP | Its so fustrating as if I had a device, I think I could get a 2.6 kernel running without too much work :-/ |
| 08:30.27 | mickeyl | bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. |
| 08:30.27 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.30 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 08:30.37 | mickeyl | so much for being complete |
| 08:30.37 | Bernardo | mickeyl: check the images dir under feed/akita |
| 08:30.40 | koen | mickeyl: we should compare the 6k and the hx4700 sometime |
| 08:30.55 | mickeyl | Bernardo: can you tar cjf spitz-packages.tar.bz2 *spitz* please ? |
| 08:31.00 | mickeyl | koen: yeah |
| 08:31.06 | koen | once sdg will lend me one |
| 08:31.15 | Bernardo | 13K/sec seems ok for my adsl upload |
| 08:31.25 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I''m not at home... :( |
| 08:31.32 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 08:31.43 | mickeyl | me neither |
| 08:31.47 | mickeyl | what was your URL again please? |
| 08:33.25 | RP | koen: I know the 4700 code quite well and I think starting from the c7x0 would make most sense |
| 08:33.26 | greg72 | patcher gurus (schurig?): it's clear how can I make a patch for the modification of a file. But what to do when I have to use mkdir? |
| 08:33.31 | Bernardo | RP: the ones by tetsu? |
| 08:33.51 | RP | Bernardo: tetsu? |
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| 08:34.05 | hrw|work | RP: tetsu is japanese zaurus kernel hacker |
| 08:34.20 | reenoo | morning |
| 08:34.33 | RP | I've never really seen any of his work... |
| 08:34.35 | greg72 | moin reenoo |
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| 08:35.04 | reenoo | hey greg72 |
| 08:35.06 | RP | morning reenoo |
| 08:36.44 | reenoo | morning RP |
| 08:37.06 | RP | hrw|work: Did tetsu originally do the modifications we use to the Sharp kernels? |
| 08:37.47 | Luke-Jr | koen: SL-C760 can't handle default bitrate... |
| 08:39.08 | hrw|work | brb |
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| 08:39.35 | bluelightning | hi reenoo |
| 08:39.43 | mickeyl | tetsu only did minor things |
| 08:39.48 | mickeyl | the real expert is piro |
| 08:39.52 | mickeyl | imo |
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| 08:40.12 | XorA | re: |
| 08:40.14 | RP | mickeyl: right. That makes sense |
| 08:40.19 | mickeyl | hi XorA |
| 08:41.48 | reenoo | hey bluelightning |
| 08:42.10 | RP | XorA: I can recommend f2s.com |
| 08:42.20 | ade|desk | how often does oe-devel get pushed across ? |
| 08:42.48 | ade|desk | this morning .. nothing to pull... i don't believe it :/ |
| 08:42.53 | XorA | RP: I probably wont change till I move house again, then Ill see about SDSL |
| 08:43.12 | RP | XorA: That sounds expensive :-/ |
| 08:43.28 | XorA | RP: well it depends on the cost of it vs hosting |
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| 08:44.45 | RP | XorA: 183.84+vat/month :-/ |
| 08:45.02 | hrw|work | re |
| 08:45.25 | XorA | RP: that the 8M line? |
| 08:45.40 | RP | XorA: 1M :-( |
| 08:45.41 | hrw|work | ade|desk: iirc 1h |
| 08:46.00 | XorA | RP: sod that :-) |
| 08:46.26 | ade|desk | hrw|work: cheers |
| 08:46.40 | RP | XorA: quite. SDSL is way too expensive :-( |
| 08:46.57 | koen | ade|desk: see oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/ChangeSet@-2d?nav=index.html |
| 08:47.15 | RP | and it looks like I can't get anything faster than 1M SDSL here anyway... |
| 08:47.51 | hrw|work | sdsl.. I will self host with sdsl |
| 08:48.27 | XorA | RP: although we have unbundled SDSL in Edin, I just cant remeber the company |
| 08:48.46 | RP | hrw|work: I already run servers over adsl ;-) |
| 08:49.07 | hrw|work | RP: I plan to run imap on my 1000/128 adsl |
| 08:49.40 | hrw|work | RP: but first want to finish all works with movement... then p2/300 with some hdd will work as server |
| 08:49.55 | mithro | what devices do people use with jtag? |
| 08:50.44 | mithro | what type of jtag connector do you use? |
| 08:52.17 | schurig | ade|desk: then just send some patches to the mailing list, then you'll get something to pull |
| 08:54.40 | hrw|work | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2005457760428.gif |
| 08:54.58 | ljp | hey mithro! whats jtag? ;) |
| 08:55.41 | Luke-Jr | Is Cairo failing to build a known issue? |
| 08:58.36 | hrw|work | ~nslookup stone.pl |
| 08:58.56 | mithro | i can get a universal programmer for $160 AUS, a PIC flash only programmer is $67 |
| 08:59.13 | mithro | however i'm not sure the PIC flash programmer supports the newest PIC chips |
| 08:59.24 | mithro | however the universal programmer doesn't seem to work under linux |
| 09:03.41 | koen | Luke-Jr: NOTE: package cairo-0.0cvs20050428: completed |
| 09:05.32 | ade|desk | openembedded 2 changesets in last 4 days, oe-devel has 49 in the last 4 days ... hmm 9 in the last day |
| 09:06.15 | mithro | so i have no idea what to do :/ |
| 09:06.39 | koen | mithro: rob a bank and buy both |
| 09:06.54 | gints|wrk | hey koen |
| 09:07.01 | koen | hey gints|wrk |
| 09:07.17 | mithro | koen: he he |
| 09:08.10 | hrw|work | ade|desk: pull from oe-devel then |
| 09:08.40 | koen | or reparent |
| 09:09.00 | koen | bk pull bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net or bk parent bk://oe-devel.bkbits.net |
| 09:09.13 | koen | (add /openembedded to both) |
| 09:13.52 | ade|desk | koen: cheers |
| 09:14.25 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 09:14.57 | hrw|work | lardman: how was cfu tests? |
| 09:17.11 | Luke-Jr | koen: | *** Error: Old headers found. You should remove the following |
| 09:18.38 | lardman | hrw|work: I still don;'t have a 2.6 kernel :( |
| 09:18.57 | hrw|work | lardman: ;( |
| 09:19.00 | lardman | hrw|work: forgot to clean task-bootstrap - just running it again, hopefully I'll have one before the day is out |
| 09:19.17 | koen | Luke-Jr: clean out tmp, you probably have some old cruft in there |
| 09:19.25 | Luke-Jr | koen: never compiled it before, IIRC |
| 09:19.38 | hrw|work | lardman: bad luck ;( |
| 09:19.40 | Luke-Jr | koen: cleaned out the files it complained about and tried w/o success |
| 09:20.19 | lardman | hrw|work: in any case, after finally working out how to make the .bb file work, I had to do some paid-for-work. 've started but still need to finish reading (& understanding) the docs kergoth & RP were recommending |
| 09:21.53 | hrw|work | lardman: yep.. all that work which must be done outside of OE.. |
| 09:24.42 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can you go to #openzaurus and update topic? |
| 09:24.56 | mickeyl | ya, i'll try. dunno if i have sufficient permissions |
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| 09:30.35 | Luke-Jr | koen: same thing cleaning everything cairo-related out of tmp |
| 09:31.30 | Luke-Jr | I'm doing a complete no-preexisting-tmp now |
| 09:32.17 | RP | Luke-Jr: I did see some cairo related errors on gpe-bootstrap yesterday |
| 09:32.53 | Luke-Jr | my gpe-session-scripts was uninstalled and I'm trying to rebuild it |
| 09:32.56 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: bitbake does not need treke.net to work |
| 09:33.06 | Luke-Jr | hrw|gone: OE metadata does to be updated |
| 09:33.20 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: and you dont need snapshots to be up-to-date - use opensource bk client |
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| 09:33.43 | Luke-Jr | hrw|gone: Gentoo lacks an ebuild for it so I was lazy? |
| 09:34.03 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: so you complain about your lazyness? |
| 09:34.08 | Luke-Jr | and I figured I can wait a few days/weeks until OE stops using BK |
| 09:34.19 | koen | who says we will? |
| 09:34.26 | Luke-Jr | koen: You paying for the commercial version? |
| 09:34.29 | gints|wrk | mickeyl: have you tryed to bake qte4 ? In what state bb file for qte4 is |
| 09:34.45 | koen | Luke-Jr: my employer might |
| 09:34.52 | mickeyl | gints|wrk: when i added it, it compiled. |
| 09:34.53 | Luke-Jr | koen: all OE devs will? |
| 09:34.59 | mickeyl | it's been a long though |
| 09:35.03 | mickeyl | it probably doesn't now |
| 09:35.26 | mickeyl | qte4 in general doesn't really look ready for prime time yet |
| 09:35.26 | gints|wrk | mickeyl: and it does not use latest source right? |
| 09:35.32 | mickeyl | gints|wrk: probably not |
| 09:35.36 | Luke-Jr | how the crap do you extract a shar anyway? |
| 09:35.50 | mickeyl | i won't look at it again until it's released |
| 09:36.03 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: use sharutils? |
| 09:36.11 | koen | execute it? |
| 09:36.12 | gints|wrk | mickeyl: I know .. but I want to start my opie programming era with knowing this stuff :) |
| 09:36.13 | Luke-Jr | hrw|gone: it only seems to make em |
| 09:36.23 | Luke-Jr | koen: yea, just read the top of it |
| 09:37.01 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: what about 'unshar' from sharutils? |
| 09:37.05 | Luke-Jr | will I be updating or getting a new copy (if I already have a snapshot)? |
| 09:37.11 | Luke-Jr | hrw|gone: didn't try it |
| 09:38.02 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 09:38.41 | Luke-Jr | hrw|gone: I never use un* =p always gzip -d or bzip2 -d... |
| 09:38.53 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: thats you |
| 09:39.08 | Luke-Jr | yep |
| 09:39.31 | Luke-Jr | any idea what provides 'sfio'? |
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| 09:40.16 | hrw|work | ha ;) got server IP :) |
| 09:40.22 | Luke-Jr | o.o |
| 09:41.03 | hrw|work | ~hail freenode and nick register |
| 09:41.05 | ibot | ACTION bows down to freenode and nick register and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:41.19 | koen | apt-get install sfio2000 |
| 09:41.26 | koen | that does the trick |
| 09:43.01 | Luke-Jr | koen: yet another prog Gentoo lacks? |
| 09:46.30 | Luke-Jr | koen: Google says sfio doesn't exist (other than a lib) either |
| 09:46.55 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: simple fetch, unpack, make does not work under gentoo? |
| 09:47.02 | hrw|work | it was all what I had to do under debian |
| 09:47.26 | Luke-Jr | hrw|work: fetch from where? |
| 09:47.41 | koen | hrw|work: no, you have to set CFLAGS and USE flags first, run 3 times around the house and sacrifice some bulls before that |
| 09:47.43 | hrw|work | ~google opensource bitkeeper client download |
| 09:48.06 | Luke-Jr | I have *that* |
| 09:48.19 | Luke-Jr | ... nevermind, sfio is part of it -.- |
| 09:50.13 | hrw|work | wget, sh bk-client.shar; cd bk_client-1.1/;make |
| 09:50.16 | hrw|work | thats all |
| 09:50.28 | Luke-Jr | hrw|work: you forget 'make install' |
| 09:50.49 | hrw|work | Luke-Jr: what for? I have bk-free installed |
| 09:51.04 | Luke-Jr | hrw|work: it doesn't work w/o it |
| 09:51.13 | hrw|work | really? |
| 09:51.28 | Luke-Jr | it expects one of the bins to be in the path |
| 09:51.41 | hrw|work | ofcourse - but I can modify PATH for it |
| 09:51.54 | Luke-Jr | still, that was the problem I had =p |
| 09:51.57 | hrw|work | anyway it is so simple that I dont know why someone want ebuild for it |
| 09:52.01 | Luke-Jr | ./binname won't work |
| 09:52.16 | Luke-Jr | because I like my /usr dir managed by a pkg mge |
| 09:52.18 | Luke-Jr | mgr* |
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| 10:01.14 | XorA | koen: have you seen situation where dialogs are somewhere not visible in GPE? |
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| 11:00.53 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07 * r1.3340 10openembedded/ (4 files in 2 dirs): updated kdepimpi to 2.1.3 |
| 11:11.11 | lardman | How should I stop bitbake from attempting to use treke.net? For a fair few packages it sits waiting for a reply, then goes on and uses cvs which works - I'd like to save some time. |
| 11:12.49 | Noodles | It's a local.conf setting. |
| 11:13.13 | Noodles | Comment out "CVS_TARBALL_STASH" I think. |
| 11:13.27 | lardman | Yep, thanks |
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| 11:28.01 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3339.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gpe-appmgr/ (files/no-render-h.patch gpe-appmgr_2.8.bb): Remove #include <render.h> from all source files in gpe-appmgr (fixes build) |
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| 11:51.52 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Did you post the serial cable btw? Just wondering if I can expect it soon :) (should have time to do some kernel hacking in a couple of weeks) |
| 11:52.58 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: send me address once more - via email.. |
| 11:54.13 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Sure thing - What's your e-mail address? |
| 11:56.29 | hrw|work | openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
| 11:57.36 | hrw|work | I have to build makeqpf from qt/e 2.3.10... dejavu fonts 1.9 was released and they drop generating qpf fonts just because I generated them once.. |
| 12:00.28 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Sent |
| 12:00.29 | hrw|work | mickeyl: does normally built libqte2 for c7x0 has all what is needed for makeqpf to generate fonts? |
| 12:00.34 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: k |
| 12:00.47 | mickeyl | hrw|work: should be, yes. iirc we enabled that ages ago |
| 12:01.40 | hrw|work | ok - will look |
| 12:02.30 | hrw|work | that makqpf static binary which is in net is 3.2.3 based and gives uglier fonts then opie-freetype |
| 12:03.57 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: got mail - I'll send you cable which I made some days ago. if it wont work then give me info and I will send parts and schematics to my friend which will make it proffesional |
| 12:04.43 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: ok, thanks :) |
| 12:08.35 | hrw|work | he work at company where soldering SMD by hand is normal thing |
| 12:08.49 | koen | brrrr |
| 12:08.53 | koen | smd |
| 12:09.11 | hrw|work | and part of company where solders works is called 'taiwan' ofcourse;) |
| 12:10.12 | bluelightning | I've read that solder paste + a toaster oven is the way to do SMD stuff if you don't have all the fancy equipment |
| 12:10.21 | bluelightning | I certainly didn't have much luck with a soldering iron :( |
| 12:10.24 | koen | indeed |
| 12:10.50 | koen | that's how a friend made his gameboy osilloscope cartridge |
| 12:11.01 | bluelightning | woah, cool... |
| 12:11.09 | koen | actually that was paste + blowdryer |
| 12:11.19 | koen | it was very cool to see it on a GBA |
| 12:11.47 | bluelightning | I guess that would work, you'd just have to be careful not to blow the chip off or get uneven heating |
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| 12:28.23 | mickey|meeting | RP: please register a machine for the C1000 when you have a minute |
| 12:28.31 | mickey|meeting | machine number, even |
| 12:29.56 | bluelightning | is it just me or have there been no updates to public bk in the last 24 hours? |
| 12:29.59 | hrw|work | mickey|meeting: c1000 and c3000? |
| 12:30.38 | mickey|meeting | C3K already registered |
| 12:31.05 | mickey|meeting | RP did that a while ago |
| 12:32.05 | hrw|work | aha |
| 12:33.01 | hrw|work | now I go for lunch.. |
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| 12:39.39 | schurig | bluelightning: no, others have the same problem |
| 12:39.45 | schurig | bluelightning: maybe kergoth's box has a problem |
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| 13:17.28 | koen | aargh |
| 13:17.35 | koen | ~stab libxine |
| 13:17.37 | ibot | ACTION runs at libxine with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 13:17.40 | koen | ~stab demug_ogg |
| 13:17.42 | ibot | ACTION runs at demug_ogg with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 13:17.44 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 13:17.51 | XorA | koen: the old tremor problem? |
| 13:18.00 | koen | ~whaleslap multimedia problems |
| 13:18.02 | ibot | ACTION slaps multimedia problems upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 13:18.06 | koen | XorA: clean rebuild |
| 13:18.52 | koen | I'm tempted to move it all to non-working |
| 13:19.17 | XorA | koen: should split out libmplayer :-) |
| 13:19.50 | zecke | koen: introduce a tremor bbclass |
| 13:19.59 | zecke | install libtremor to different dirs |
| 13:23.15 | koen | zecke: OE can do versioned depends |
| 13:23.30 | koen | someone who knows xine should set those |
| 13:24.03 | zecke | ah right but it is only one part... |
| 13:24.14 | zecke | the headers of ancient tremor and recent tremor are different |
| 13:24.30 | zecke | so if someone built mplayer and xine or vice versa the build will break anyway |
| 13:24.51 | koen | mplayer doesn't use tremor any more iirc |
| 13:25.01 | XorA | koen: it is inside mplayer |
| 13:25.13 | koen | same difference :) |
| 13:25.47 | zecke | oh when did that happen? but at that point one doesn't need versioned depends anymore? |
| 13:26.20 | koen | well, xine fails to build |
| 13:26.25 | koen | after wiping tmpdir |
| 13:26.48 | XorA | zecke: I did it couple of weeks ago |
| 13:26.51 | koen | so something needs to be changed :) |
| 13:26.53 | RP | mickey|meeting: will do |
| 13:29.42 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:32.55 | hrw|work | howto make gvim sluggish.... read opie addressbook sqldump |
| 13:52.45 | Bernardo | http://tuxmobil.org/linux_award.html |
| 13:56.25 | hrw|work | now what to choose... |
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| 14:00.31 | hrw|work | ~google opie ttf |
| 14:00.37 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 14:21.22 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07 * r1.3340.1.1 10openembedded/packages/zbedic/ (zbedic_0.9.4.bb files/qtopia17.patch): fixed zbedic build |
| 14:21.49 | hrw|work | no PR bump as it wont build without that fix |
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| 14:32.19 | hrw|work | argh... husky again stop waking |
| 14:39.35 | hrw|work | mickey|meeting: makeqpf built from qte-2.3.10-r14 does not generate fonts in qpf |
| 14:39.40 | hrw|gone | bye |
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| 15:22.17 | treke|home | I dont get it. i've never had this much trouble with postfix before |
| 15:22.32 | schurig | obi: Grüße nach Darmstadt (hab' da mal studiert) |
| 15:26.52 | obi | :-) |
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| 15:43.08 | CosmicPenguin | This sounds like fun (but suspciously like Tinderbox): http://buildbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:50.50 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3341.1.2 10openembedded/packages/libxine/libxine_1.0.bb: Add missing depdency on libvorbis to libxine, fixes build |
| 15:50.55 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3341.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gpe-watch/ (gpe-watch-0.10/no-render-h.patch gpe-watch_0.10.bb): Stop gpe-watch including render.h (fixes build). |
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| 16:02.13 | reenoo_ | re |
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| 16:13.37 | treke | rt will be back soon enough. I'm just having massive postfix problems |
| 16:13.54 | treke | well the real problem is that I don't know if I'm having problems |
| 16:16.21 | CosmicPenguin | That is a problem |
| 16:16.51 | treke | yeah. Every server I've tried sending from works...except for exchange at work |
| 16:17.00 | treke | so I don't know what else might be failing |
| 16:17.08 | CosmicPenguin | Well, thats your problem right there... :) |
| 16:17.45 | treke | yeah. I just get really nervous when I can find a specific server I can't send mail from |
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| 16:45.34 | CosmicPenguin | There aren't any nethack variants in the OE tree? Strange for a collection of geeks such as our selves |
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| 16:49.07 | treke | this is really getting on my nerves |
| 16:49.45 | koen | mb-desktop-xine-${PN}.tar.bz2 |
| 16:49.51 | koen | no wonder fetch failes |
| 16:52.04 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:52.10 | treke | ok nnow this is really fucked up |
| 16:52.12 | CosmicPenguin | I've done that before |
| 16:52.25 | treke | if I send an email to greg@treke.net from work it disppears into the ether |
| 16:52.33 | treke | if I send it to greg@antigerg.com it works |
| 16:54.57 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: heh, every once in a while andersee brings it up. he was messing with oe with the intent to add it, but got frustrated at build failures. |
| 16:55.59 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: heh - yeah. Andersee is a huge nethack fan... :) |
| 16:56.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:56.37 | CosmicPenguin | I saw this, and it got me interested: http://gtk2hack.sourceforge.net/index.html |
| 16:56.49 | Crofton_ | kergoth, how is the search for a replacement to bk going? |
| 16:57.17 | kergoth | for my part, stalled. been warpped up in moving and trying to keep my house from being forclosed and shit |
| 16:57.48 | treke | we're just going to say fuck it to the whole revision control thing |
| 16:57.58 | Crofton_ | that sounds like it is higher priority |
| 16:58.02 | Crofton_ | heh |
| 16:58.04 | kergoth | and be entertained by random CM folks shitting themselves |
| 16:58.12 | andersee | kergoth: yeah |
| 16:58.37 | molivier | hi all |
| 16:58.39 | andersee | kergoth: sadly every time I've had time to hack on it, I spent my time trying to get oe to behave |
| 16:58.58 | kergoth | andersee: it'd help if we just spent some time locking down the floating build versions. the ones from cvs and svn head are the most common problems |
| 16:59.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:59.06 | andersee | kergoth: when oe is busy behaving itself, I'm usually too busy |
| 16:59.57 | Crofton_ | I need to get some of my crap moved into main repo |
| 17:00.05 | andersee | but I installed the latest oz on my SL-C860 and was pleased to see it working quite well |
| 17:00.11 | molivier | i can't pull update anymore - how can i solve this ? |
| 17:00.13 | andersee | so I do have hope... |
| 17:00.22 | Crofton_ | spent the morning answering emails from people interested in omniORB stuff |
| 17:00.34 | treke | you can start by giving us information that's not worthless |
| 17:00.51 | treke | for now the answer to your question is "fix your bk install" |
| 17:01.35 | koen | or "kergoth, could you sync the repo's?" |
| 17:02.52 | aloph1 | 'lo folks... please could anyone point me where to get the snapshots instead neither from bitkeeper and from http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/, once the last one is offline since a couple of weeks ago (i think so)? |
| 17:03.52 | koen | bk://openembedded.bitbits.net/openembedded |
| 17:03.58 | koen | latest and greatest |
| 17:04.37 | treke | if you want the source, you have to use bitkeeper for now. |
| 17:06.12 | aloph1 | hmmm |
| 17:06.15 | aloph1 | i see. |
| 17:06.47 | aloph1 | treke: hey, nice to meet you, you are the guy i'm talking about! =8^) |
| 17:08.57 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3344 10openembedded/packages/libxine/libxine_1.0.bb: libxine_1.0.bb: inherit binconfig |
| 17:09.07 | aloph1 | i'm using netbsd here... i think the read-only bk client will not work |
| 17:10.09 | treke | try it and find out then |
| 17:11.27 | aloph1 | treke: sure. i'm already on it. |
| 17:17.15 | koen | RP: you're the best |
| 17:20.22 | RP | koen: thanks :) I was just about to post the link to find someone beat me too it :) |
| 17:20.40 | koen | RP: the big bossman beat you |
| 17:21.00 | RP | koen: He did have to see it first ;-) |
| 17:21.21 | RP | (http://www.rpsys.net/ipaq/gpe/ for anyone not in #gpe) |
| 17:21.40 | CoreDump|home | y |
| 17:22.50 | treke | this gets fucking stranger by the minute |
| 17:23.07 | treke | I can send mail to ggilbert@treke.net and root@treke.net, but not greg@treke.net |
| 17:23.20 | treke | and that is only from one machine |
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| 17:30.01 | treke | it's official |
| 17:30.06 | treke | exchange is fucking up big time |
| 17:30.39 | andersee | treke: You act as if this is somehow surprising |
| 17:31.18 | treke | mail to my personal email address sent from outlook through exchange is being delivered to another exchange account |
| 17:31.53 | CosmicPenguin | I can't decide if I want to go watch the HHGTG movie tommorrow or not |
| 17:32.33 | treke | I've heard bad things |
| 17:32.41 | Cwiiis[uni] | I notice an image build only produces one kernel for collie now... What happened to producing them for all memory configurations? |
| 17:34.58 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: check DISTRO_TYPE |
| 17:35.20 | Cwiiis[uni] | Where's that? |
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| 17:37.01 | treke | at least now I know I can trust my postfix setup |
| 17:38.53 | koen | Cwiiis[uni]: DISTRO.conf |
| 17:39.08 | treke | and can get to work on the oe stuff |
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| 17:47.17 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3345 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:47.17 | CIA-4 | mb-desktop-xine_0.4.bb: add it |
| 17:47.17 | CIA-4 | matchbox-desktop_0.9.1.bb: stage some headers |
| 18:01.21 | zecke | reenoo_: ping (I've a haskell question) |
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| 18:25.33 | Cwiiis[uni] | How does one go about setting the ram/storage split on collie with a debug distro these days? |
| 18:27.13 | CosmicPenguin | gigawhat? |
| 18:28.57 | Cwiiis[uni] | Used to have COLLIE_RAMSIZE variable or something like that? grep'd for 'COLLIE' in conf and classes and couldn't find an instance of it... (recursive grep) |
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| 18:43.45 | Cwiiis[uni] | back |
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| 19:03.38 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3346 10openembedded/packages/mb-desktop-xine/mb-desktop-xine_0.4.bb: |
| 19:03.38 | CIA-4 | mb-desktop-xine_0.4.bb: |
| 19:03.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.55 | reenoo_ | hey zecke |
| 19:12.19 | zecke | reenoo_: I'm wondering how far pattern matching goes |
| 19:12.40 | zecke | reenoo_: can I only match types/ctors or even characters? |
| 19:13.12 | zecke | reenoo_: transition q0 'a' = q1 transition q0 'b' = q0 |
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| 19:18.42 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 19:20.54 | SirFred | Hi. |
| 19:30.08 | hrw | re |
| 19:30.37 | hrw | Cwiiis[uni]: COLLIE_MEMORY_SIZE, COLLIE_RAMDISK_SIZE |
| 19:30.53 | hrw | Cwiiis[uni]: packages/linux/openzaurus-sa_*.bb |
| 19:30.59 | Cwiiis[uni] | hrw: Thanks |
| 19:33.01 | hrw | np |
| 19:33.14 | hrw | someone remember which version of mplayer works best on husky? |
| 19:33.58 | Bernardo | hrw: there's one with ati support, I think |
| 19:35.06 | reenoo_ | zecke: that should work, yeah |
| 19:38.40 | zecke | wow |
| 19:51.07 | hrw | one question about doing releases... how about removing Source: lines from Packages(.gz)? in my feed they took half size of that file.. |
| 19:58.55 | Cwiiis[uni] | sounds reasonable to me |
| 20:00.11 | koen | I think that will kill ipkgfind |
| 20:00.39 | koen | it might be an idea to strip out source locally (on the handhelds) |
| 20:03.04 | koen | woohoo! my bk foo worked |
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| 20:36.02 | Bernardo | 'night mickey|zzZZzz |
| 20:39.30 | schurig | hrw|gone: I remove Source: lines from my Packages, works fine |
| 21:11.53 | CIA-4 | 03jcrouse 07 * r1.3180.46.1 10openembedded/packages/syslinux/syslinux-native_2.11.bb: |
| 21:11.53 | CIA-4 | syslinux-native_2.11.bb: |
| 21:11.53 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.32 | CosmicPenguin | I really need to blow away my sources directory and rebuild more often |
| 21:13.40 | CosmicPenguin | Scary how much stuff just moves around |
| 21:16.28 | max_ | I'm using oe with a code generator (idl for corba) and every time I modify the IDL I need to run clean before my next attempt to update the copy in oe. Does anyone know if there's a stamp I can modify to keep this from happening? |
| 21:18.54 | zecke | max_: you can force doing a task |
| 21:19.32 | max_ | zecke, i'm sorry, but I'm new to oe. How do I force a task? |
| 21:19.51 | zecke | bitbake -b your_app.bb -ccompile -f for example |
| 21:19.59 | Crofton__ | can you force a fetch and a have it continue working from there? |
| 21:20.25 | Crofton__ | I think he needs to force fetch |
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| 21:20.58 | zecke | Crofton__: if you force the fetch |
| 21:21.15 | zecke | Crofton__: and then do bitbake -b your_app and all tasks after fetch will be executed |
| 21:21.22 | max_ | thanks - this give a direction to dig around |
| 21:21.24 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 21:22.34 | Crofton__ | You could use BBMASK to specify only one bb file and that would speed startup? |
| 21:23.29 | zecke | Crofton__: with BBMASK you filter out packages |
| 21:23.41 | Crofton__ | heh |
| 21:23.46 | Crofton__ | BBFILES then ? |
| 21:23.58 | zecke | yupp |
| 21:24.32 | Crofton__ | max_, build/conf/local.conf and edit BBFILES to point only to the one you want to muck with |
| 21:24.48 | max_ | Crofton__, ok |
| 21:24.50 | Crofton__ | that shoudl prevent bitbake from parsing everything |
| 21:25.17 | Crofton__ | Just don't get mad at me when you can't build anything else :) |
| 21:25.18 | reenoo_ | Crofton__: bitbake -b path/to/foo.bb is there for a reason... |
| 21:25.25 | Crofton__ | ok |
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| 22:11.59 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:14.23 | Pigi | nite all |
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| 23:07.22 | treke | anyone know where the script for splitting feeds is? |
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| 23:17.11 | Crofton__ | kergoth, we finally figured out tmp is created relative to where you run bb :) |
| 23:18.10 | kergoth | Crofton__: heh, TOPDIR is the cwd, TMPDI R defaults relative to that. if you hardcode it in the local.conf, then you can run it anywhere |
| 23:18.35 | Crofton__ | yeah, max was having trouble finding stuff, random package rebuilds etc |
| 23:18.47 | Crofton__ | he would run from one place, then I would run from a different |
| 23:19.01 | Crofton__ | I finally figured out the path thing |
| 23:19.30 | Crofton__ | Some things I do the same way over and over |
| 23:19.37 | Crofton__ | I always ran from the same dir |
| 23:39.15 | CosmicPenguin | Ok dammit - I can feel that its correct but I can't tell why |
| 23:39.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 23:40.12 | CosmicPenguin | why would i2c.h in linux-libc-headers include <module.h> |
| 23:40.14 | CosmicPenguin | This is crazy talk |
| 23:41.20 | CosmicPenguin | This is bad |
| 23:41.47 | CosmicPenguin | And somewhere in the back of my head, I've got a little alarm going "you shouldn't be including i2c.h anyway, you dumb bastard" |
| 23:41.58 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 23:55.25 | treke | yeah that wasnt the smarted thing in the world to do with lvm. |
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| 23:56.07 | treke | add drive to a volume group... then repartition and mkfs the physical volume |
| 23:56.15 | treke | "ooops" |
