| 00:27.13 | treke | another one? |
| 00:27.15 | treke | idiots |
| 00:28.58 | treke | which list? |
| 00:29.08 | keturn | well, yesterday's. I think you've already weighed in on that one. |
| 00:29.19 | treke | ok |
| 00:29.40 | treke | I've been suspecting my procmail setup is dropping mail, so I was worried you had just confirmed it |
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| 00:46.18 | jskcr|JLime | let the software version control search begin |
| 00:46.37 | jskcr|JLime | There has to be one to rule them all :P |
| 00:57.45 | treke|home | we're just going to use cvs |
| 00:57.49 | treke|home | it may be many things |
| 00:57.53 | treke|home | but it isn't controversial |
| 00:59.34 | jskcr|JLime | it both sucks and works lol |
| 00:59.52 | jskcr|JLime | overall it works okay and is fast |
| 01:00.47 | treke|home | it's not like it's sourcesafe |
| 01:00.52 | treke|home | no one actually fears cvs's name |
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| 01:05.24 | jskcr|JLime | with lots of developers it can be a pain in the ass when the repositories are locked |
| 01:25.45 | treke|home | it's one of those things where it works as it's meant to, but not the way we need it to |
| 01:26.08 | treke|home | and subversion is generally a better choice if cvs is the basic idea you want |
| 01:40.51 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: I'm having a go at fixing libxine 1.0 up a bit - ends up 1.0.0-rc5 wasn't building with tremor as I thought it was, so no point spending any more effort on it |
| 01:52.02 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: Would you prefer I split my changes into a libxine-gpe, or that they stay with libxine? (Making it use libtremor, etc.) |
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| 02:15.07 | jskcr|JLime | BRB |
| 02:16.04 | bluelightning | Cwiiis: personally I'd prefer if we had a shared lib... I know we already have a libxine-opie, not sure why |
| 02:16.34 | Cwiiis | bluelightning: I'd prefer that too, but it means sacrificing some things that you might want on a desktop build (but then I guess this is Open*Embedded* :p) |
| 02:17.05 | bluelightning | except that some people do use OE to build images for epia boxes |
| 02:17.11 | bluelightning | hmm |
| 02:21.53 | treke|home | they are mostly crazy |
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| 02:54.47 | tanq | kergoth: are you around |
| 03:23.02 | Cwiiis | ah, tremor 2004... breaks libxine :p |
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| 04:24.33 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3202.1.2 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove now unnecessary patch in gxine, add two more required vo/ao plugins ('none' plugins). |
| 04:24.38 | CIA-4 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.3202.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:24.38 | CIA-4 | Fix up libxine 1.0, make it the default. |
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| 04:28.34 | Cwiiis | CosmicPenguin: happy? :) |
| 04:30.07 | mithro | anyone here know much about chip ping types? |
| 04:45.14 | Cwiiis | night all |
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| 05:34.31 | uv1 | Morning |
| 05:36.29 | uv1 | Preferred orinoco-modules 'orinoco-modules_0.13e-26.bb' do not install (because they do not compile, but this does not lead into error). The bb file looks kind o strange. Any ideas ? |
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| 05:50.59 | luzik | can someone do `mv openembedded/packages/netbase/netbase_4.20.bb openembedded/packages/netbase/netbase_4.21.bb` and commit it because 4.20 is no longer on debian ftp ?????? |
| 05:51.37 | luzik | or can someone send mail to mail list or something |
| 05:52.08 | luzik | 4.21 build ok |
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| 06:24.13 | luzik | where can i change SF mirror list? |
| 06:24.36 | luzik | because aleron.dl.sourceforge.net suck today |
| 06:30.21 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:30.25 | kergoth | rtfm. that info is on the wiki |
| 06:31.09 | emte | i hate to inform you all the sf servers suck, even when they do happen to work |
| 06:32.42 | luzik | from that aleron i have ~20kb/s ..from others ~300kb/s |
| 06:33.02 | emte | impressed you get that much |
| 06:34.53 | emte | wonder if i can figure out ragel enough to make it useful .. |
| 06:34.54 | luzik | :) |
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| 06:41.14 | emte | heya supi |
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| 06:42.46 | luzik | can't find how to say bitbike to redownload sources |
| 06:44.20 | luzik | after bitbake -c clean package and deleting source from source dir .. it just say No such file or directory. and starting to "do_unpack: completed" |
| 06:44.27 | luzik | not logical for me |
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| 06:46.26 | emte | luzik, rm the md5 |
| 06:49.15 | luzik | emte: thx works now but it in my humble opinion should be in bitbake command to do such job |
| 06:49.56 | emte | not really |
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| 06:50.17 | emte | it reduces bw costs to the hosts to cache the src |
| 06:50.58 | emte | bw is like opensrc, its free like beer |
| 06:51.52 | luzik | emte: i just need something like 'bitbake -c get_sources' |
| 06:52.39 | emte | what good would that do? |
| 06:52.49 | emte | it still parses the meta |
| 06:55.05 | luzik | emte: yes, but for example i can first download all sources and then build packages |
| 06:55.24 | emte | thats rather pointless ... |
| 06:55.30 | emte | why dld the wrong srcs |
| 06:56.12 | emte | after one succesful build you have all the propewr srcs cached |
| 06:56.23 | emte | proper* |
| 06:57.11 | luzik | sources are cached ? |
| 06:57.25 | emte | that is what the sources dir is for |
| 06:57.41 | emte | it does not redld a source atht is in the sources dir |
| 06:57.44 | luzik | oh chached on hd |
| 06:57.48 | emte | yes |
| 06:58.00 | luzik | but imagin notebook |
| 06:58.19 | luzik | you can connect to net download all and then without connection build everything you need |
| 06:58.23 | emte | what about it besides being a poor compiler |
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| 06:58.56 | emte | i wouldnt want to build anything near the size of OE on a laptop |
| 06:59.29 | emte | i cringe thinking about recompiling a kernel.... almost need to stick the thing in the freezer |
| 06:59.36 | luzik | :) |
| 06:59.44 | luzik | but it was stupid example |
| 07:00.07 | luzik | i just download corupted sources and must remove it manualy |
| 07:00.21 | emte | yes, sometimes that does happen |
| 07:00.28 | emte | not often |
| 07:01.10 | emte | i suppose you could always ask treke to mail you a CD set of the sources |
| 07:01.41 | luzik | it was because of http resume from diffrent locations |
| 07:03.56 | luzik | ok another problem .. can't download //www.ijg.org/files/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz because of some server problems |
| 07:04.08 | luzik | i have that source from my linux distro |
| 07:04.23 | luzik | can i just copy it to sources dir? |
| 07:04.31 | luzik | and what next? |
| 07:05.31 | emte | drop it in sources and you should be fine |
| 07:05.45 | emte | as long as permissions are correct |
| 07:05.48 | luzik | cool ..trying |
| 07:06.14 | emte | anyway sleep time |
| 07:06.20 | luzik | no it isn't |
| 07:06.30 | luzik | still try to auto download |
| 07:06.35 | luzik | ok bye |
| 07:06.56 | emte | you didnt remove the stamp then |
| 07:07.12 | emte | or your permissions are wrong and it cant see it |
| 07:09.08 | luzik | i just added an md5 sum file and it works now ok |
| 07:12.33 | luzik | hmm :( http://www.treke.net/oe/source/tslib_pubcvs.arm.linux.org.uk__20050409.tar.gz 404: Not Found. |
| 07:12.50 | luzik | must mail to treke right ? |
| 07:13.15 | luzik | ok cvs started work |
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| 07:37.16 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:37.44 | uv1 | morning koen |
| 07:37.55 | koen | hey uv1 |
| 07:38.38 | uv1 | koen: Do you know how to insert e.g. a Settings/xxx.conf file into an ipk ? |
| 07:40.41 | koen | from a .bb? |
| 07:41.03 | koen | you can use FILES and CONFFILE for that |
| 07:41.53 | kergoth | ehh |
| 07:42.04 | kergoth | it sounds like he wants to put files into a user's home directory from an ipk |
| 07:42.09 | kergoth | which is _not_ what should be done |
| 07:42.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:43.37 | uv1 | kergoth: Why not ? My applications needs an *.conf file for configuration. |
| 07:44.33 | uv1 | koen: CONFFILE += "xxx.conf" ? Whould that be sufficient ? |
| 07:45.16 | koen | a package should *never* *ever* touch $HOME |
| 07:45.43 | uv1 | koen: Why not ? And where else to store a template btw? |
| 07:45.47 | kergoth | uv1: an ipk is global. the user's home directory is by definition NOT. |
| 07:45.49 | kergoth | its per user |
| 07:46.15 | kergoth | the package in question should be smart enough to obey a global config file if hte user's isnt present, or should have internal defaults. |
| 07:46.23 | kergoth | if the app doesnt do that, it's broken. |
| 07:46.42 | uv1 | kergoth: My program read $HOME/Settins/xxx.conf ;-) |
| 07:46.55 | kergoth | what part of "it's broken" did you not understand? |
| 07:47.11 | kergoth | night |
| 07:47.22 | uv1 | kergoth: gd night. |
| 07:47.49 | koen | uv1 imagine the situation I use opie as a nonroot user |
| 07:47.58 | koen | I hae to run ipkg as root |
| 07:48.23 | koen | where does it put the config file? |
| 07:49.36 | uv1 | koen: What is you suggestion ? My app needs lots of things first read from a config file and some templates and than stored into $HOME/Settings and $HOME/Applications/app. |
| 07:50.34 | koen | does it only reads from ~/Settings? |
| 07:50.52 | koen | or can it use /opt/Opie/skel or something? |
| 07:51.38 | uv1 | koen: /opt/Opie/skel would be OK, if I change the startup behaviour. Check $HOME and read from skel, if not found ? Would that be OK ? |
| 07:52.19 | koen | anything that keeps the ipkg from poking at $HOME would be ok |
| 07:52.29 | uv1 | koen: Do we have /opt/Opie/skel or something like this ? |
| 07:52.46 | koen | you'll have to ask #opie for the default place to put config files |
| 07:53.08 | koen | it was skel or skeleton in an example mickeyl used a while back |
| 07:54.01 | uv1 | koen: For the first test would an 'install xxx.conf /opt/opie/skel' be OK in do_install ? |
| 07:54.27 | uv1 | koen: opie's still asleep :-) |
| 07:55.07 | koen | I would so no problems with that |
| 07:55.50 | koen | you'll need to to FILES +=/opt/opie/skel" and CONFFILES +="/opt/opie/skel/*" or something like that |
| 07:55.59 | koen | check other .bbs for the syntax |
| 07:56.14 | koen | ~lart murphy |
| 07:56.23 | uv1 | koen: will do, thanks so far. |
| 07:56.31 | koen | my buildbox crashed last night |
| 07:56.40 | koen | my *remote* buildbox that is |
| 07:57.33 | uv1 | Another item. orinoco_modules for kernel 2.6 do not finish build any more. There is something wrong with the compile / install process ;-) |
| 07:57.43 | uv1 | s/;-)/;-(/ |
| 08:00.20 | uv1 | kergoth`bbl: This was a power nap ? |
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| 08:39.03 | pb_ | morning |
| 08:39.40 | koen | 'morning pb_ |
| 08:40.20 | pb_ | hi koen |
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| 09:14.30 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for RP: I can't seem to access that ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl URL you gave me; it just times out. |
| 09:15.38 | koen | pb_: yeah, it crashed |
| 09:16.51 | koen | pb_: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/OZ/ |
| 09:16.53 | pb_ | koen: ah |
| 09:16.55 | pb_ | thanks |
| 09:16.57 | koen | same files, different name |
| 09:17.40 | pb_ | great |
| 09:19.01 | pb_ | now, what did I do with my CF reader today? |
| 09:26.49 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for RP: please disregard my previous note. koen gave me a new URL which works fine. |
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| 09:27.31 | koen | If I had a weekend pass for the CS building I could reset the box myself |
| 09:38.46 | luzik | can someone try build opie-restartapplet2-1.2.0+cvs-20050409-r0 |
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| 11:14.50 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 11:30.56 | sajar | Hmm, my bitbake meta-sdk fails to: mv: cannot stat `/home/sajar/build/tmp/work/meta-sdk-1.0-r2/sdk/image/usr/local/arm/oe/lib/ipkg/status' |
| 11:31.22 | sajar | For error being no such file or directory |
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| 12:05.03 | uv1 | Anyone here, who can help with gpe ? |
| 12:21.14 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:39.37 | pocek_ | Help... |
| 12:39.51 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 12:39.59 | bluelightning | pocek_: what's up? |
| 12:40.03 | pocek_ | ERROR: log data follows (/repo/oe/build/tmp/work/gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050331-r3/temp/log.do_patchcmd.3849) |
| 12:40.06 | pocek_ | | Importing patch /stuff/openembedded/packages/gnu-config/gnu-config/config-guess-uclibc.patch (stored as config-guess-uclibc.patch) |
| 12:40.09 | pocek_ | | cp: cannot create regular file `patches/config-guess-uclibc.patch': Permission denied |
| 12:40.12 | pocek_ | | Failed to import patch config-guess-uclibc.patch |
| 12:40.13 | pocek_ | bk bull does nothing |
| 12:40.15 | pocek_ | | /repo/oe/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/share/quilt/scripts/patchfns: line 220: patches/series: Permission denied |
| 12:40.18 | pocek_ | pull |
| 12:41.01 | bluelightning | hmm, doesn't mean anything to me I'm afraid |
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| 13:27.09 | jskcr | pocek_ ya that looks like a perms problem |
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| 13:27.44 | jskcr | try chown -R yourunixusername.users /repo |
| 13:27.59 | jskcr | Hya mickeyl |
| 13:28.10 | mickeyl | cheer guys |
| 13:28.13 | mickeyl | cheers, eve |
| 13:28.14 | mickeyl | n |
| 13:29.59 | pocek_ | jskcr: That's not it |
| 13:35.36 | zecke | mickeyl: hey |
| 13:36.45 | CoreDump|home | hi mickeyl |
| 13:38.47 | bluelightning | hi zecke |
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| 13:40.11 | reenoo_ | afternoon |
| 13:41.58 | pocek_ | hi |
| 13:42.11 | pocek_ | Please take a look: http://polbrokers.dyndns.org/~pocek/oe_error.txt |
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| 13:45.13 | guylhem1 | hi all - still working on the TOSA partitions stuff. What is the standard way to write jffs2 to MTD devices on zauruses ? |
| 13:45.38 | zecke | guylhem1: via the normal flash procedure? |
| 13:46.02 | guylhem1 | I've read nandcp was having problems sometimes, so I'd be interested in a better method (had to boot into diagnostic menu and do nand restore already) |
| 13:46.04 | pocek_ | :( |
| 13:46.32 | guylhem1 | zecke - when I've got a bash prompt after booting on zimage2/initrd.gz rescue kernel |
| 13:46.46 | guylhem1 | (the one at 0x00220000) |
| 13:47.05 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 13:47.33 | mickeyl | pocek_: i don't trust quilt. try "inherit patcher" into your *.conf |
| 13:48.40 | pocek_ | mickeyl: Thanks! |
| 13:50.21 | bluelightning | hi reenoo_ |
| 13:50.27 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 13:50.51 | reenoo_ | hey bluelightning |
| 13:55.00 | pb_ | hi bluelightning |
| 13:55.23 | zecke | guylhem1: ah sorry, I don't know |
| 13:55.52 | pb_ | bluelightning: will you attend linux.conf.au? |
| 13:56.03 | guylhem1 | I see nandlogical being used in oe updater.sh - but I had problem with this one too :-/ |
| 13:56.14 | guylhem1 | I guess that means I'll have to give it a try \ |
| 13:56.47 | pb_ | zecke: hell! |
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| 14:01.58 | mickeyl | morning RP |
| 14:02.30 | RP | hello mickeyl |
| 14:03.15 | RP | irc client crashed :-/ |
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| 14:09.20 | gremlin[it] | hi to all :) |
| 14:10.59 | bluelightning | pb_: not this year, definitely next year though |
| 14:11.34 | pb_ | bluelightning: ah, that's too bad |
| 14:17.38 | mickeyl | bbl, switching back to uni account |
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| 14:37.14 | uv1 | Hi mickeyl |
| 14:38.10 | uv1 | orinoco-modules do not build any mor with kernel 2.6 for c7x0. I checked the bb file, which is pretty empty. Any ideas about that ? |
| 14:53.19 | mickeyl | choose orinoco 0.13-26 or orinoco-0.15 |
| 14:53.24 | mickeyl | 0.15 won't work on arm though |
| 14:53.29 | mickeyl | and 0.13-26 is unconfirmed yet |
| 14:53.32 | mickeyl | no time to test my patch yet |
| 14:53.59 | koen | mickeyl: oz353/2.6/gpe is running very nice on my Z |
| 14:54.31 | mickeyl | koen: d'oh - hows that? who fixed the gpe problems ? |
| 14:54.42 | mickeyl | so i should build the gpe-image also with 2.6 ? |
| 14:54.57 | koen | suspending is still nonworking, but the rest works |
| 14:55.08 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:55.12 | mickeyl | autosuspend you mean ? |
| 14:55.17 | mickeyl | not every suspend? |
| 14:55.24 | koen | no, generic suspending |
| 14:55.28 | mickeyl | uhm |
| 14:55.34 | mickeyl | i wouldn't call that "running very nice" then |
| 14:55.40 | mickeyl | we can't ship an image that doesn't suspend |
| 14:56.26 | koen | it went from "completely nonfunctinal and messing with jffs2 partitions" to "works except for suspending" |
| 14:56.37 | koen | so my expectations were pretty low |
| 14:56.41 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:56.51 | mickeyl | btw., has the kernel 2.4 issue been sorted out? |
| 14:57.28 | koen | the clean rebuild I tested blew up too |
| 14:57.36 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 14:57.37 | mickeyl | not good |
| 14:57.42 | mickeyl | can't really release it then |
| 14:58.51 | koen | ~lart sharp for putting 32MB of ram in the corgi |
| 14:59.07 | XorA|gone | RP: PING |
| 14:59.49 | mickeyl | well, I could omit gpe for c7x0 and wait for suspend being fixed on 2.6 and forget about 2.4 on c7x0 completely |
| 15:00.32 | mickeyl | why does suspend using the back button not work? that's pretty surprising given it's handled in the kernel |
| 15:00.51 | koen | apm -s fails too |
| 15:00.57 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:01.00 | koen | where fails is "X freezes" |
| 15:01.05 | mickeyl | probably because of your kill /dev/apm hack ? |
| 15:01.22 | koen | I wouldn't know |
| 15:01.36 | koen | I foolishly left my Z at home |
| 15:01.46 | koen | so I can't test till monday |
| 15:02.01 | uv1 | koen: When did you do the last pull ? On my host gpe-image does not install correctly. |
| 15:02.57 | koen | the last pull was yesterday evening |
| 15:03.03 | mickeyl | i'm slowly building the final images (again, because of some directory confusion) and I will test each and every one for collie and c7x0 |
| 15:03.29 | uv1 | mickeyl: 0.13-26 does not create *.ko files and therefore does not install. I only had the chance to remove orinoco-modules from zaurus.conf ;-(. So now I have to work non wireless ;-( |
| 15:03.37 | uv1 | koen: When yesterday ? |
| 15:03.44 | mickeyl | uv1: that's sad. |
| 15:03.47 | zecke | mickeyl: Drop me a note, I can flash images as well |
| 15:03.53 | koen | 1am this morning |
| 15:03.57 | uv1 | mickeyl: Yes |
| 15:04.05 | zecke | bluelightning: ping |
| 15:04.18 | mickeyl | zecke:will do - thanks. the whole image releasing process needs to be streamlined, one guy can't handle that anymore |
| 15:04.28 | mickeyl | especially for zaurus because there are so many special cases |
| 15:04.35 | mickeyl | that kernel with this image, these modules here and there |
| 15:04.36 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 15:04.41 | zecke | :} |
| 15:04.47 | zecke | mickeyl: we need one kernel |
| 15:05.00 | zecke | mickeyl: HH.org 2.6.12 that works on any device :) |
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| 15:05.02 | gremlin[it] | hi zecke :) |
| 15:05.08 | koen | we need more testers + machines |
| 15:05.14 | koen | and more time + money |
| 15:05.19 | mickeyl | i just realized that poodle.conf was broken for ages |
| 15:05.23 | mickeyl | no one looked at it |
| 15:05.25 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 15:05.31 | koen | told you so |
| 15:05.40 | mickeyl | and then people will complain again when we release poodle stuff that doesn't work |
| 15:05.45 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 15:05.45 | zecke | bluelightning: we need to compile kernel, drivers, libopienet with the same wireless.h |
| 15:06.09 | uv1 | koen, mickeyl : I have a collie and boxer (CL860). And I use the boxer for testing purposes only until now, as OZ is not yet stable there. |
| 15:06.22 | bluelightning | zecke: so libopienet is not using the kernel's one? |
| 15:06.23 | koen | mickeyl: a few weeks ago I said that the poodle machine.conf was broken, but someone dismissed it |
| 15:06.45 | mickeyl | bluelightning: nothing except the kernel is using the kernel one since my approach to fixing it has been reverted |
| 15:06.47 | mickeyl | months ago |
| 15:06.55 | mickeyl | we had a discussion then |
| 15:07.06 | bluelightning | mickeyl: reverted for a good reason? or not? |
| 15:07.15 | mickeyl | to my opinion not |
| 15:07.20 | bluelightning | hmm |
| 15:07.23 | mickeyl | but i was the minority in that discussion |
| 15:07.39 | bluelightning | well it seems we have a breakage due to that... :/ |
| 15:09.53 | mickeyl | the wireless utilities have incorporated crucial hacks to deal with multiple WE versions at runtime. I am not willing to do the same to libopienet |
| 15:10.50 | bluelightning | so did the dissenters have a better plan? |
| 15:11.03 | mickeyl | no. they told me to just use libiw.so |
| 15:11.28 | zecke | mickeyl: is that lib binary compatible? stable API and ABI? |
| 15:12.18 | mickeyl | zecke: libiw changes with every revision. John is a very good programmer, but he just doesn't care about APIs and ABIs. That's why we have the WE hell. |
| 15:12.35 | mickeyl | ioctls, data structures, everything is constantly mutating |
| 15:13.00 | zecke | mickeyl: didn't he write something about deisgning kernel api |
| 15:13.16 | bluelightning | no wonder we don't have a proper wireless infrastructure in mainline yet |
| 15:13.29 | mickeyl | s/John/Jean/ |
| 15:14.17 | mickeyl | the good news is that the worst breach was 15 to 16 |
| 15:14.23 | mickeyl | and things have settled down a bit |
| 15:14.54 | mickeyl | i will have a look if it is safe to assume that if both versions are >= 16 then I can ignore the diff |
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| 15:15.12 | zecke | mickeyl: and we're at a major problem of OE. Inter Package dependcy |
| 15:15.42 | mickeyl | ? |
| 15:16.10 | zecke | mickeyl: userspace needs to use the same wireless.h as the kernel |
| 15:16.28 | zecke | mickeyl: but we need to know which virtual/kernel provides which version |
| 15:18.34 | gremlin[it] | mhh what's the irc chan of ipaq kernel guys ??? |
| 15:18.52 | bluelightning | gremlin[it]: here, or #handhelds.org |
| 15:19.02 | koen | #handhelds.org? |
| 15:19.13 | pb_ | yes |
| 15:19.35 | gremlin[it] | yes it exist :) |
| 15:19.49 | pb_ | or #hhkernel |
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| 15:26.50 | pb_ | oh, wow. I just realized that my laptop has a pcmcia slot, so I don't need to use an external cf reader anymore. |
| 15:26.51 | mickeyl | very good |
| 15:26.57 | mickeyl | you have an PCMCIA-CF converter? |
| 15:26.59 | pb_ | yeah |
| 15:27.15 | pb_ | it just never occurred to me to use it before, since my old laptop didn't have any pc card slots |
| 15:27.25 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:29.34 | zecke | hehe |
| 15:30.36 | XorA | RP: Just done a full obex via Irda test on c7x0 both ways, received and sent pictures and video so I can defineately say its working |
| 15:31.17 | mickeyl | very nice |
| 15:31.18 | mickeyl | 2.6 ? |
| 15:31.18 | zecke | XorA: which irda driver is used in the kernel? |
| 15:31.29 | XorA | mickeyl: yeah 2.6 |
| 15:31.41 | XorA | mickeyl: GF got a new phone |
| 15:31.49 | mickeyl | zecke: we apply the patch from nico that's been sitting in rmk's patch tracker since months |
| 15:32.03 | zecke | mickeyl: hmm |
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| 15:34.08 | uv1 | Can anyone here point me to remote debugging. I have a segfault in my prog and prints do not really point me to where it happens. Any experience (collie). |
| 15:34.59 | pb_ | RP: hrm. gpe-login does not start for me with koen's rootfs. |
| 15:35.13 | pb_ | (and kernel) |
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| 15:39.55 | mickeyl | ~hugs Tyan |
| 15:40.02 | mickeyl | TYAN THUNDER i7505 (S2665) BIOS V1.16 |
| 15:40.02 | mickeyl | New features and Fixes : |
| 15:40.02 | mickeyl | * Added boot from USB function* |
| 15:40.10 | mickeyl | and that for a 3 year old board |
| 15:40.15 | mickeyl | excellent |
| 15:40.53 | mickeyl | now where did I put my floppy drive *cough* |
| 15:45.21 | XorA | HOLY COW, my wireless card went through washing machine and works |
| 15:45.53 | zecke | lol |
| 15:49.51 | mickeyl | tyan rocks |
| 15:49.59 | mickeyl | never will buy anything other for dual |
| 15:50.40 | bluelightning | night all |
| 15:51.01 | mickeyl | g'night bluelightning! |
| 15:54.50 | koen | mickeyl: I got the very last 2800+ cpu from holland |
| 15:54.57 | koen | the other had to come from germany :) |
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| 16:31.20 | uv1 | Just upgraded my debian and now have a problem.NameError: 'global name 'bb' is not defined'. Checked, that python 2.3 is there and resetuped bitbake. Any ideas ? |
| 16:33.44 | pocek_ | uv1: Setting BBPATH, reinstalling bitbake |
| 16:34.18 | uv1 | BBPATH is correct, reinstalling means ./setup.py, right ? Did that already ;-( |
| 16:34.36 | pocek_ | No idea |
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| 17:15.02 | gilligan_ | hi |
| 17:15.47 | gilligan_ | is Holger Schurig in here? :) |
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| 17:26.05 | CoreDump|home | I've written a custom /sbin/init for my collie which contains only "/bin/sh (shebang aside)". Any hints or ideas why calling /bin/sh doesn't work? |
| 17:26.48 | CoreDump|home | doesn't work as in "no output to the console" |
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| 19:56.58 | Ken[JLime] | anyone having issues with ipkg? |
| 19:57.47 | Ken[JLime] | I'm getting "xsystem: ERROR: fork failed before execution: 'wget --passive-ftp -q -P /tmp/ipkg-vq42VU http://www.jlime.com/downloads/releases/shrek/feed/Packages |
| 19:58.04 | Ken[JLime] | the Packages file is there and i got a good connection to internet |
| 19:58.53 | Ken[JLime] | I did a new image 2 days ago, and this is first time i've tried installing any ipkg stuff |
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| 20:04.06 | w3rwolf | is it normal that the installation of sabervm-classpath takes over an hour? |
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| 20:41.06 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:44.19 | Pigi | ~botmail |
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| 21:08.19 | w3rwolf_ | grr |
| 21:12.20 | Pigi | botmail for koen: I have found a problem in the error_list function that don't shows some errors, and I'm fixing it. Maybe this will solve your problem |
| 21:12.40 | Pigi | ~botmail help |
| 21:13.00 | kergoth | i just woke up |
| 21:13.01 | kergoth | at 4pm |
| 21:13.03 | kergoth | wtf |
| 21:13.07 | emte | lol |
| 21:13.09 | Pigi | so soon ? |
| 21:13.13 | emte | you were up pretty late |
| 21:13.22 | kergoth | still, thats just messed up |
| 21:13.36 | kergoth | i think thep roblem with unemployment, for me, is the same as the problem i had with flex time at work |
| 21:13.38 | kergoth | not enough structure |
| 21:13.39 | emte | thats what happens when you toss your schedule out the window |
| 21:13.45 | kergoth | need to impose a structure on my meals and sleep, myself |
| 21:13.49 | emte | yup |
| 21:16.01 | ljp | ya, your living on .au time |
| 21:16.36 | Pigi | nite all |
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| 21:31.55 | RP | hello all |
| 21:33.07 | RP | Today has not been a good near. Two people trying to kill me on a 2 mile journey on the bike. Then the wheel fell off. Literally, from the car... |
| 21:33.40 | RP | a good *day*... |
| 21:33.53 | kergoth | ack :\ |
| 21:34.19 | zecke | kergoth: I hope you do well? |
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| 21:47.53 | gb2 | kergoth: i get so much more done if i have fixed time structuring |
| 21:48.25 | gb2 | if i go lax with my hours at work, all the hours become less productive i've found |
| 21:49.08 | gb2 | the trick is going to bed at a fixed time i think |
| 21:49.14 | gb2 | which is also probably the hardest part |
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| 21:49.35 | kergoth | agreed |
| 21:52.31 | tanq | yeah i'm not working right now either.. |
| 21:52.45 | tanq | i'm waiting on 2 job interviews... but i dont mind... |
| 21:56.00 | zecke | kergoth: did yoi ever play with scons? |
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| 22:30.34 | XorA|gone | RP: ping |
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| 22:57.23 | RP | XorA: hello |
| 22:57.42 | XorA | RP: see my success with Irda? |
| 22:57.57 | RP | XorA: I did. Very nice to know it really works :) |
| 22:58.10 | XorA | RP: was what I thought |
| 22:58.15 | RP | I'll continue putting pressure on to get that into mainline |
| 22:58.27 | RP | Although I've having difficulties :-/ |
| 22:59.08 | XorA | whats the problem? |
| 22:59.36 | RP | rmk has some issues with the patch. nico doesn't seem to want to resolve them :-/ |
| 23:00.04 | RP | I don't know enough to be able to help but I'll probably just have to learn and wade in... |
| 23:00.19 | XorA | RP: thats a pity :-( |
| 23:00.56 | RP | There was a problem that stopped it working on the Zaurus without errors - Dirk spotted the problem and fixed it but nico has made no comment on the simple fix |
| 23:01.29 | RP | Its like a lot of things - they can seem to get bogged down in rmk's systems... |
| 23:02.10 | RP | SD being another patch that's not in mainline for no good reason |
| 23:02.37 | RP | Now bk is no more, I suspect we have no change of pushing any patches for the next month... |
| 23:02.52 | XorA | RP: erk thats not good |
| 23:03.39 | RP | No. Not a lot I can do about it unless I go around rmk and go direct to akpm... |
| 23:04.13 | RP | and even then, Linus in on another planet for now... |
| 23:04.46 | XorA | RP: its sad that linux seems to just about start to unify again then it all flies to peices |
| 23:05.50 | RP | It will bounce back, I'm certain of that. It will just take a month (at least( |
| 23:08.00 | XorA | RP: well thanks to you I am loving my Z |
| 23:08.12 | RP | :) |
| 23:08.23 | RP | I have to admit I'm a lot happier with mine now as well :) |
| 23:08.44 | XorA | and opie 1.2 hasnt crashed on me yet :-) |
| 23:08.54 | RP | It feels like a job done properly... |
| 23:08.59 | XorA | I just need to kick mplayer into behaving |
| 23:08.59 | RP | bonus :) |
| 23:09.10 | RP | I really must get into the habit of using it again :) |
| 23:09.55 | XorA | and I think my Wifi card survived the wash |
| 23:10.17 | RP | With all the events of today, Z work hasn't happened. Maybe I'll find time tomorrow to look at mplayer. I'm keep to get it working so I can test my atilib against it |
| 23:10.39 | RP | Just make sure its throughly dried out! :) |
| 23:10.40 | XorA | yeah I saw something about car wheels? |
| 23:11.05 | RP | Water exposed pcbs can rot in short order :-/ |
| 23:11.27 | XorA | RP: Im hoping its sealed enough water didnt get in |
| 23:11.49 | RP | I had a car pull out in front of me on the (motor)bike, another who tried to drive into me as I was stopping |
| 23:12.03 | RP | then to top it all off, the MG's rear wheel fell off :-/ |
| 23:12.15 | XorA | quite a sucky day |
| 23:12.28 | RP | all in all, yes |
| 23:12.51 | XorA | ah well hopefully thats your quota of bad karma for this year |
| 23:13.01 | RP | My thoughts exactly :) |
| 23:13.16 | RP | I'm a nervous wreak now... |
| 23:13.43 | RP | I've had wheels fall off the kart - you expect that. The car however... |
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| 23:14.21 | XorA | RP: happened to a mate of mine, stupid garage replaced the wheels forgot to do the nuts up, luckilly it rattled enough we emergency stopped |
| 23:15.00 | RP | I knew there was something wrong and was planning to stop. No place to do so safely soon enough though :-/ |
| 23:21.28 | XorA | RP: anyway I think its time to hit the sack,cya |
| 23:22.20 | RP | 'night XorA|gone |
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| 23:30.30 | reenoo_ | ~today |
| 23:30.31 | ibot | I don't know what today is, but it probably sucks. |
| 23:32.04 | gb2 | ~saturday |
| 23:32.05 | ibot | Saturday is the day that sucks the least! |
| 23:32.24 | reenoo_ | it's sunday here :P |
| 23:32.34 | reenoo_ | ~sunday |
| 23:32.35 | ibot | Sunday sucks, because tomorrow is monday (See monday). Also, sunday is the day we do all the stuff we should've done Saturday, but didn't. |
| 23:33.03 | gb2 | heh, sucks to be there ;) |
| 23:33.10 | reenoo_ | yup |
| 23:37.15 | reenoo_ | it's fscking 1:30am on a fscking sunday before a fscking monday that will require me to get up at 6:30am to attend some organizational nonsense get-together at university and on top of that finish a semi important document before midnight |
| 23:37.28 | kergoth | :( |
| 23:38.10 | reenoo_ | 'night all |