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| 00:58.52 | quidam | ive been trying to build a gpe image for a zaurus 550 |
| 00:59.14 | quidam | i get the image flashed but can't login |
| 00:59.29 | quidam | is there some way to figure out why the login is failing? |
| 00:59.48 | quidam | can I login to a console instead of the gui? |
| 01:00.14 | quidam | ... that should be a zuarus 5500 |
| 01:07.04 | emte | is there anyone in the gpe or oz channels? |
| 01:07.49 | emte | i own an ipaq so i've no idea about the zaurus setup |
| 01:11.10 | quidam | the gpe channel said to go to oz and no one responds on oz |
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| 01:15.36 | quidam | does anyone know of a way to alter the init script that gets embedded in gpe so I get a shell instead of a gui login? |
| 01:18.51 | CIA-4 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3155 10openembedded/packages/opie-icon-reload/opie-icon-reload.inc: Fix .inc file for opie-icon-reload |
| 01:19.18 | emte | does the zaurus kbd work in a shell? |
| 01:19.44 | emte | i know i can just use my serial cable and loginto my ipaq from minocom |
| 01:19.50 | emte | minicom* |
| 01:20.59 | emte | i am curious now ... does a working gpe image even exist for the 5500 zaurus? |
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| 01:22.19 | quidam | i built one using oe a couple of months ago |
| 01:22.37 | CIA-4 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3156 10openembedded/packages/opie-sh-snes/opie-sh-snes.inc: Fix .inc file for opie-sh-snes |
| 01:28.46 | quidam | there is something about the "idea" of gpe that makes me want it to work ... |
| 01:29.28 | quidam | it is frustrating to be so close and yet not to be able to get the image to work |
| 01:31.49 | emte | perhaps you have the same mysterious problme familar does now |
| 01:32.01 | emte | where it installs fontdir instead of rc.S |
| 01:33.55 | CoreDump|afk | emte: ouch |
| 01:43.27 | emte | yeah i dunno how that happend ... koen is chasing it |
| 01:45.16 | quidam | how does one get at what's happening? how to see what the error is? |
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| 02:41.07 | chouimat | night |
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| 03:44.45 | emte | moo |
| 03:45.20 | tanq | hey if i'm crosscompiling something for arm and its missing libnsl .. do i just copy or link libnsl to the toolchain/lib directory> |
| 03:46.03 | emte | why not just install that ipkg instead? |
| 03:46.36 | tanq | because i'm not using ipkgs |
| 03:47.01 | emte | sounds like perhaps you should ? |
| 03:48.01 | emte | its easier if you use that package system that will put stuff in the correct locations than trying to mess around manually |
| 03:48.08 | emte | the* |
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| 04:02.52 | vol | hey anyone around? im trying to build a package and i get this error..: /usr/bin/autoreconf-2.59: unrecognized option `--exclude=autopoint' |
| 04:03.34 | jskcr|jlime | vol google the mailing list is on there |
| 04:04.03 | vol | ok thanks |
| 04:16.41 | kergoth | sounds like people trying to use bitbake -b and not properly following dependencies. |
| 04:16.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:16.51 | jskcr|jlime | hya kergoth |
| 04:16.56 | kergoth | hey |
| 04:17.11 | jskcr|jlime | I learned something new this weekend :) |
| 04:17.40 | jskcr|jlime | opie and getty on the same tty do not like each other lol |
| 04:17.55 | kergoth | hah |
| 04:17.56 | gb2 | kergoth: could make bitbake -b ensure deps are met, first level deps should be easy to recover |
| 04:18.06 | gb2 | and you'd just be checking stamps |
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| 04:18.18 | kergoth | without parsing the other files, you cant check stamps. |
| 04:18.25 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 04:18.28 | kergoth | the items in DEPENDS are providers, not packagenames |
| 04:18.31 | gb2 | yeah, i guess that is true |
| 04:18.35 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 04:18.38 | kergoth | they're most commonly the latter, but it isnt guaranteed |
| 04:18.47 | joshua_ | kergoth, I think bitbake -b merits a "I hope you know what you're doing" warning the first time it's used |
| 04:18.52 | vol | i just emerged autotoolset and that fixed my problem |
| 04:19.27 | kergoth | vol: huh? |
| 04:19.37 | kergoth | you cant build oe packages without _oe_'s autoconf and automake |
| 04:19.40 | gb2 | too bad parsing is so slow |
| 04:19.51 | kergoth | yeah |
| 04:20.06 | gb2 | profiled it at all recently? |
| 04:21.38 | kergoth | nah. spent quite a bit of time doing so when i was investigating alternative cow implementations, but nothing since. now ithat i'm unemployed i should use some of my copious spare time and get the rewrite rolling |
| 04:21.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:21.54 | gb2 | you heard of ipython? |
| 04:21.59 | kergoth | nope |
| 04:22.06 | gb2 | it's a better interactive python |
| 04:22.25 | gb2 | has some nice shortcuts to doing stuff like profiling work, better backtracing |
| 04:22.30 | gb2 | colorization |
| 04:23.18 | kergoth | neat |
| 04:23.21 | kergoth | will have to check it out |
| 04:25.17 | gb2 | tabcompletion is quite nice to have for one :) |
| 04:32.08 | gb2 | how's your free time working out? |
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| 07:44.46 | RP | morning all |
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| 07:52.14 | XorA | morning |
| 07:56.32 | RP | morning XorA |
| 07:58.50 | loial|zzzZZZ | morning |
| 08:01.14 | hrw|work | hello |
| 08:01.22 | greg72|linux | morning |
| 08:01.23 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.12 | XorA | RP: tried gpe last night, no improvement :-( |
| 08:03.45 | hrw|work | ~lart putty for lack of reconnect |
| 08:08.48 | XorA | hrw|work: putty has reconnect :-) |
| 08:08.58 | hrw|work | where? |
| 08:09.03 | XorA | hrw|work: menu restart session |
| 08:09.25 | hrw|work | maybe - I have 2004-07-15 here |
| 08:11.27 | XorA | hrw|work: release 0.56 |
| 08:11.42 | XorA | hrw|work: it only appears on disconnect BTW |
| 08:11.58 | hrw|work | at work I boot windows only where I have to - today I install antivirus software because I have to (nevermind that I do not use windows here) |
| 08:12.14 | hrw|work | updated to today version |
| 08:12.28 | hrw|work | reboot... |
| 08:12.30 | XorA | hrw|work: tell them you run Linux antivirus |
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| 08:14.23 | XorA | is there anyway of forcing a linux reboot remotely? |
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| 08:14.46 | RP | XorA: Is this just with the 2.6 kernel or does the 2.4 kernel have the same problems? |
| 08:15.20 | XorA | RP: I only tried with 2.6 kernel |
| 08:16.24 | RP | XorA: I just wish I knew where to start debugging it :-/ |
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| 08:31.20 | XorA | RP: so tempted to try running xdm :-) |
| 08:35.02 | RP | XorA: :-) |
| 08:36.55 | loial | XorA: does bluez-utils-nodbus (2.14-r4 that's in opie-image) build for you on your amd64? |
| 08:39.15 | XorA | loial|afk: I always use an i386 chroot as there are too many problems building on amd64 |
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| 08:42.14 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 08:42.47 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 08:42.47 | loial|afk | XorA: hm, too bad :) Me, i've only found 2 errors, this bluez-utils-nodbus and pcre. The rest works just fine. |
| 08:42.55 | loial|afk | morning bernardo |
| 08:43.10 | hrw|work | Bernardo: that1GB card which make you problems with collie was normal or hispeed? |
| 08:43.56 | Bernardo | higspeed - a 66x card, from integral |
| 08:44.02 | Bernardo | works fine on the akita, though |
| 08:44.17 | hrw|work | Bernardo: yesterday I had a problem with kingston 256 hispeed |
| 08:44.26 | Bernardo | :( |
| 08:44.42 | hrw|work | it wasn't mine |
| 08:44.49 | Bernardo | you need to convince kergoth to do a open-source version of the sd driver... |
| 08:45.06 | XorA | loial|afk: maybe things improved then :-) I remeber pcre, bluez-utils-nodbus used to compile fine so any breakage must be recent |
| 08:45.10 | Bernardo | what kind of errors did it give? |
| 08:45.33 | hrw|work | Bernardo: card not detected - will try once more when find time |
| 08:45.58 | Bernardo | ok. Probably will show sdmmc errors in dmesg |
| 08:47.05 | Bernardo | now why doesn't my akita build work... :( |
| 08:47.50 | Noodles | Bernardo: Did you see my question about which updater you were using? |
| 08:47.51 | loial|afk | Bernardo: the new memory regions didn't help? |
| 08:48.51 | Bernardo | Noodles: no, that is probably showing on my kvirc at home... :) I am using the one for the c860, the one for the c3000 won't work at all |
| 08:49.07 | Bernardo | loial|afk: no, it had the same behaviour |
| 08:49.20 | Noodles | Yeah, the BK updater.sh.3000 doesn't work for the C3000 either for the kernel. |
| 08:49.44 | Bernardo | I though that one worked on the c3000 |
| 08:49.53 | Noodles | Not for OE built kernels. |
| 08:50.18 | Bernardo | any idea why it fails? |
| 08:51.02 | Noodles | I think someone mentioned something about it cutting off a header. |
| 08:51.14 | Bernardo | strange |
| 08:51.16 | Noodles | That exists on sharp kernels, but not a standard build. |
| 08:51.40 | Bernardo | is it possible to only flash initrd? Or would I have to edit updater.sh for that? |
| 08:51.57 | Bernardo | Because I could leave the sharp kernel in place, and flash a new filesystem |
| 08:52.20 | Noodles | If there's no kernel it'll just do the flash. |
| 08:52.27 | Bernardo | that way I could test opie on it, do my testing in stages |
| 08:52.33 | Noodles | It checks for the existance of the files and only updates what's on the card. |
| 08:52.47 | Bernardo | so if I just remove zImage.bin it should boot...~ |
| 08:52.53 | Noodles | Aye. |
| 08:53.16 | Bernardo | mmm... ok, I'll try that as I have the files on cf here |
| 08:57.41 | loial | is it okay if I see this when I try to build an image?: ccache arm-linux-gcc <-blabla> -I/home/loial/zaurus/oesources/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -I/usr/include |
| 08:58.49 | loial | it's using include files from my host...that's okay? |
| 09:00.10 | Bernardo | shouldn't do that, but as those only come after the ones in staging, you're probably ok |
| 09:01.25 | loial | was afraid it shouldn't, thanks |
| 09:01.57 | mickeyl | morn |
| 09:05.13 | Bernardo | hi mickeyl |
| 09:11.34 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 09:12.01 | RP | mickeyl: looks like gpe-image is still broken with 2.6 on c7x0. 2.4 with gpe-image is unknown |
| 09:13.56 | mickeyl | i see. |
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| 09:15.41 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:15.56 | mickeyl | morning koen |
| 09:17.59 | RP | morning koen |
| 09:22.23 | hrw|work | re |
| 09:22.40 | hrw|work | I noticed that 1.2.0 opie is slower then my 20030421 build |
| 09:23.01 | mickeyl | 2003 is long ago |
| 09:23.15 | hrw|work | sorry - 20050321 |
| 09:23.20 | mickeyl | oh |
| 09:23.22 | mickeyl | how's that ? |
| 09:23.26 | mickeyl | what exactly is slower? |
| 09:23.41 | hrw|work | text rendering in sysinfo/bench is up to 16k not 24k |
| 09:24.37 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 09:24.40 | mickeyl | odd |
| 09:25.00 | mickeyl | something we have to look after the release |
| 09:25.07 | mickeyl | i already built the "gold" image |
| 09:25.23 | mickeyl | at least for collie |
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| 09:26.28 | hrw|work | and I found possible resolution for sorting in opie-contacts |
| 09:26.35 | bluelightning | hi all |
| 09:26.56 | RP | hi bluelightning |
| 09:27.04 | bluelightning | hi RP |
| 09:29.29 | mickeyl | g'night k |
| 09:33.49 | koen | someone has been busy |
| 09:44.49 | mickeyl | yeah, murray has been active under the hood |
| 09:59.47 | mithro | what happened to the mailing list? no [oe] anymore? |
| 10:00.18 | hrw|work | mithro: dont say that you filter basing on [oe].. |
| 10:00.28 | mithro | no i don't |
| 10:00.42 | mithro | but i filter a bunch of mailing lists into the same folder |
| 10:00.49 | schurig | greg72: murray made initial powerpc-support for OE :-) Isn't this what you need? |
| 10:01.15 | mithro | so it's nice to have some indication of which list it was originally for |
| 10:01.16 | greg72 | bk pull? |
| 10:01.30 | schurig | greg72: don't know, saw a patch in the mailing list |
| 10:01.40 | koen | it isn't in yet |
| 10:01.43 | koen | any volunteers? |
| 10:02.07 | schurig | greg72: if something is in the mailing list, then some of us with BK write access have to put it into BK. Mostly this happens, but sometimes not. |
| 10:04.47 | hrw|work | greg72: apply that patch locally and test does it work for you |
| 10:10.06 | schurig | for the patches look sane. I'll add them and see what happens :-) |
| 10:15.07 | schurig | he just forgot the revision bump, which I'll add |
| 10:29.48 | schurig | applied & bk pushed |
| 10:29.54 | koen | mickeyl: I flashed my c700 with a familiar snapshot last night and I suddenly have a 53MB / with a lot of jffs2 errors |
| 10:30.00 | schurig | the type with the gcc crosscompile makes me wonder |
| 10:30.09 | koen | any idea what could be wrong? |
| 10:30.11 | mickeyl | koen: yes, i read that. i have no idea what could cause that |
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| 10:30.29 | koen | I'm downloading oz3.5.2 right now |
| 10:30.50 | schurig | because without this patch I compiled gcc-cross-3.4.3, gcc-cross-initial-3.4.3 and gcc-cross-kernel-3.3.4 |
| 10:30.51 | mickeyl | koen: i didn't test with a 2.4 since long. maybe something got messed up when I converted the build to building all three kernels in one run |
| 10:31.08 | mickeyl | schurig: yeah, that worries me, too :) |
| 10:31.15 | schurig | koen: did you ERASE the device before re-flashing? |
| 10:31.34 | koen | I used the sharp reflash tool |
| 10:32.12 | bluelightning | careful, sharp tools can result in injury |
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| 10:33.21 | mickeyl | heh |
| 10:33.25 | mickeyl | hi lardman |
| 10:33.50 | lardman | Hi Mickeyl |
| 10:34.37 | lardman | I saw your post re. no MMC either - that's a shame, I'd thought it would still be usable |
| 10:34.50 | mickeyl | yeah, but no go for collie |
| 10:34.59 | mickeyl | unless kergoth does it |
| 10:35.03 | mickeyl | he's the only one with the docs |
| 10:35.08 | lardman | I see |
| 10:35.56 | lardman | Did you see my post about WinXP & 2.6.x c7x0 machines needing an inf file from the kernel source? |
| 10:36.12 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
| 10:36.20 | lardman | hrw|work: Hi |
| 10:36.57 | mickeyl | yes, i saw that. someone needs to act on that |
| 10:37.10 | mickeyl | i have no idea about usb and windows - i never used that |
| 10:37.24 | koen | is that the infamous rndis inf file? |
| 10:37.28 | lardman | it's not a problem, just as long as the inf file can be made available without people needing to download the kernel source tarball |
| 10:37.38 | lardman | koen: not sure, it's called linux.inf |
| 10:37.47 | koen | that's the one |
| 10:37.53 | lardman | it seems to work fine |
| 10:38.16 | lardman | once I worked out that I needed it, and where to find it :) |
| 10:38.21 | RP | Ah yes, this issue. Someone needs to put it one of the websites |
| 10:38.39 | RP | put it on one |
| 10:38.43 | koen | ah whopping 3kB/s from OZ.org |
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| 10:40.44 | lardman | As an aside, how will the new images be distributed (as and when)? As tarballs (he says hopefully as it'd stop corrupt downloads) or as they are currently? |
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| 10:42.07 | mickeyl | as they are currently |
| 10:42.14 | mickeyl | with md5sums |
| 10:42.23 | mickeyl | as for when... |
| 10:42.26 | mickeyl | well, that's a different story |
| 10:42.31 | mickeyl | collie is finished |
| 10:42.37 | mickeyl | i just hold this back until the others are done |
| 10:42.43 | mickeyl | we have some problems with GPE |
| 10:42.46 | lardman | I wasn't worried about when, just that users don't check md5sums - but that's life I suppose |
| 10:42.59 | mickeyl | well, there will always be dumb people |
| 10:43.06 | mickeyl | when you put out tarballs, they may try to flash them |
| 10:43.07 | mickeyl | heh |
| 10:43.20 | bluelightning | some people already have with Familiar :) |
| 10:43.21 | koen | mickeyl: let's hope my rootfs fusion was a fluke |
| 10:43.27 | lardman | yeah, I thought of that after I'd posted |
| 10:43.29 | mickeyl | koen: indeed |
| 10:44.14 | mithro | mickeyl: so how goes 3.5.3? |
| 10:44.34 | mickeyl | like i said a couple of lines before |
| 10:45.08 | mickeyl | if it was just for opie, we could release this week |
| 10:45.14 | mickeyl | but i'm waiting for gpe |
| 10:45.17 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3154.1.1 10openembedded/packages/directfb/directfb_0.9.22.bb: update directfb to 0.9.22 and bring it back from nonworking |
| 10:45.46 | mithro | mickeyl: chance that it will be done before April 17th? |
| 10:46.05 | hrw|work | I hope that eilers (or someone other) will resolve opie #1534 (sorting in contacts) before... |
| 10:46.18 | mithro | btw any chance of the cool OOO Newsletters? |
| 10:46.36 | lardman | has the 2.6.11 clock slowdown on suspend been fixed? |
| 10:49.10 | RP | lardman: its fixed both in oe and mainline |
| 10:49.57 | lardman | RP: Cool |
| 10:53.36 | loial | woot :) |
| 10:53.43 | loial | i fixed bluez-utils :) |
| 10:53.58 | loial | ehm, well, it compiles now :P |
| 10:58.59 | koen | mickey|lunch: the 3.5.2 image restored the rootfs |
| 10:59.26 | koen | going to try yesterdays image with a 3.5.2 kernel |
| 11:06.18 | koen | is DISTRO in overrides? |
| 11:06.58 | koen | hmm |
| 11:07.00 | koen | nm |
| 11:07.44 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3156.1.1 10openembedded/packages/gpe-bootsplash/files/ (splash-p.svg splash-l.svg): cleanup gpe-bootsplash dir |
| 11:08.53 | koen | mickey|lunch: the old (3.5.2) kernel works |
| 11:09.13 | koen | but somehow the updater says: RO filesystem |
| 11:31.20 | hrw|work | kdepimpi 2.0.23 |
| 11:32.39 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07 * r1.3167.1.1 10openembedded/packages/kdepimpi/kdepimpi_2.0.23.bb: updated kdepimpi (development) to 2.0.23 |
| 11:44.34 | mickeyl | koen: wierd. i can't see anything that would cause that behaviour |
| 11:44.55 | mickeyl | the .configs look ok |
| 11:45.04 | mickeyl | and we really didn't change anything else |
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| 11:48.05 | mickeyl | except some additional patchs |
| 11:48.07 | mickeyl | patches |
| 11:55.02 | koen | Let's see what a 2.6 image + kernel do |
| 11:55.38 | hrw|work | lets see does my oz 3.5.3+ will work |
| 11:56.06 | hrw|work | 3.5.3+ mean 3.5.3 + today libopie, contacts, kdepimpi 2.0.23 |
| 11:58.09 | hrw|work | ;)) |
| 11:58.52 | koen | ~dict pimp |
| 11:59.43 | koen | funny kde people |
| 12:00.34 | hrw|work | koen: non kde - zautrix.. |
| 12:00.50 | koen | funny zautrix |
| 12:06.45 | hrw|work | interesting change in 2.6.11-rc5-mm1 (I read kerneltraffic): A pcmcia update which obsoletes cardmgr (although cardmgr still works) and makes pcmcia work more like regular hotpluggable devices. |
| 12:07.59 | mickeyl | yes, that's very very good |
| 12:08.18 | mickeyl | we can perhaps boot from CF pretty soon |
| 12:08.30 | mickeyl | and perhaps from Network |
| 12:12.11 | RP | Once oz 3.5.3 is out the way, I'll upgrade the kernel to a recent bk and we can give it a try :) |
| 12:12.17 | mickeyl | yep |
| 12:12.25 | mickeyl | one more reason to H U R R Y up with that release |
| 12:12.32 | RP | I'm itching to get rid off all the merged patches in the kernel bb file :) |
| 12:13.32 | RP | I actually have a more recent kernel outside of oe. I haven't updated all the patches though, just some of them |
| 12:14.21 | mickeyl | i'm doing a (hopefully) gold build for opie-image tonite |
| 12:14.34 | mickeyl | then we need people to care about poodle and tosa |
| 12:14.56 | RP | For 2.6 you mean? |
| 12:15.12 | mickeyl | no, that was talking about 3.5.3 release |
| 12:15.34 | RP | Ah, right. Not much testing yet? :-/ |
| 12:15.35 | mickeyl | i can build the images, yeah, but i would feel better with someone building the images who can actually test |
| 12:15.56 | mickeyl | i can test on tosa, but I'd like to concentrate on c7x0 and collie |
| 12:16.32 | RP | I'm not much use there :) |
| 12:16.58 | mickeyl | there was something i wanted to talk to you about |
| 12:17.01 | mickeyl | now where's my memor |
| 12:17.02 | mickeyl | y |
| 12:17.05 | mickeyl | hmm... |
| 12:17.21 | mickeyl | bummer, can't remember now |
| 12:17.31 | RP | I do know of one "bug" - that backlight not being continuous |
| 12:17.53 | mickeyl | yes, that's a little buglet. we can ship an updated kernel later |
| 12:17.59 | mickeyl | or work around that in user land |
| 12:18.22 | RP | I'm happy to fix the kernel. I just need to have opie installed on my c7x0 when I remember about it :) |
| 12:18.29 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 12:19.11 | RP | if (intensity>x) intensity-=y; |
| 12:19.11 | RP | That's the fix. I need to work out x and y though |
| 12:19.21 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:19.25 | mickeyl | that can't be right |
| 12:19.36 | mickeyl | that doesn't eliminate the overlapping |
| 12:19.38 | mickeyl | or does it? |
| 12:20.04 | hrw|work | hmm.. I have to look how to get pretec wifi from hsn.com - anyone here from US? |
| 12:20.26 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.34 | RP | Something like that anyway :) |
| 12:21.10 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 12:21.20 | RP | That looks better. I was thinking backwards :-/ |
| 12:22.08 | mickeyl | we just need to exclude some values |
| 12:22.15 | mickeyl | i.e. between 30 and 40 |
| 12:22.25 | mickeyl | and just use the highest bit then |
| 12:22.33 | mickeyl | and lower the lower bits |
| 12:22.34 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:22.49 | RP | The above with the correct values of x and y will do that |
| 12:23.35 | RP | x=30 and y=10 for your example numbers above |
| 12:23.41 | mickeyl | right |
| 12:23.52 | mickeyl | and then report 63-10 as highest resolution |
| 12:23.57 | mickeyl | s/highest// |
| 12:24.06 | RP | Yes, change the max intentity accordingly |
| 12:25.23 | mickeyl | needs good eyes to get the correct values :) |
| 12:25.34 | mickeyl | you have a dark room? :D |
| 12:25.48 | RP | we'll probably need one :) |
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| 12:27.19 | chris144|work | good afternoon folks |
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| 12:30.26 | ade|desk | afternoon folks |
| 12:30.29 | hrw|work | hi ade |
| 12:30.41 | mickeyl | btw. |
| 12:30.50 | mickeyl | did anyone of you tried the qtopia 2.1.1 ROM for 5500 ? |
| 12:30.56 | ade|desk | back to work .. was getting used to the time off |
| 12:30.56 | mickeyl | if you didn't... don't |
| 12:30.59 | mickeyl | it's boooooooooooooooooring |
| 12:31.07 | mickeyl | hi chris144|work |
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| 12:54.33 | chris144|work | hi mickeyl, (just returned to ma desk) |
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| 13:00.48 | lardman | mickeyl: With the exception of the v4l app...? :) |
| 13:03.01 | koen | and vloopback |
| 13:04.27 | hrw|work | re |
| 13:04.27 | mickeyl | lardman: hehe, yes. |
| 13:04.41 | mickeyl | wb hrw |
| 13:07.23 | lardman | mickeyl: I've been busy and didn't get around to compiling that webcam kernel module, maybe in a few weeks' time... |
| 13:07.44 | lardman | mickeyl: but I might be tempted to flash it once I do to test whether it works :) |
| 13:09.17 | mickeyl | opie-camera will be soon obsoleted |
| 13:09.24 | mickeyl | because there's no way to use the sharp cam in 2.6 |
| 13:09.30 | mickeyl | thanks to their closed source driver |
| 13:09.41 | mickeyl | so I need to get another CF cam |
| 13:09.56 | koen | the pretec one? |
| 13:10.02 | koen | with a semi working driver? |
| 13:10.06 | mickeyl | anything that works would do |
| 13:10.14 | mickeyl | everything is better than the SharpCam |
| 13:10.35 | koen | http://www.omoikane.co.jp/misc/ccam/ |
| 13:11.10 | hrw|work | Bernardo|Away: 256M kingston elitepro (hispeed card mounted OK on collie and got 1.06M/s in opie-sysinfo |
| 13:11.14 | koen | Nils has one and expressed a slight interest on getting the driver to work |
| 13:14.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 13:14.14 | mickeyl | svga no worky yet |
| 13:14.25 | mickeyl | sounds like this isn't better than the SharpCAM :) |
| 13:24.48 | lardman | mickeyl: get a ratoc card & a web cam! |
| 13:25.04 | lardman | mickeyl: oh yeah, no driver for that in 2.6 yet either |
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| 13:35.21 | z0rgl | I'm doing bitbake bootstrap-image for mainstone machine |
| 13:35.46 | z0rgl | and the build failed on bootstrap-image-1.0-r0 |
| 13:36.05 | z0rgl | the log shows : ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied |
| 13:36.36 | z0rgl | why does bitbake needs to write in /usr/lib ? |
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| 13:41.32 | koen | z0rgl: because the rootfs contains /usr/lib/ipkg |
| 13:41.45 | koen | there should be something else going wrong |
| 13:42.29 | z0rgl | In my understanding the rootfs contains /path_to_rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg |
| 13:42.40 | z0rgl | but not /usr/lib/ipkg |
| 13:44.38 | z0rgl | in the log I have : mkdir -p /home/toto/OpenEmbedded/build/tmp/rootfs/dev |
| 13:44.45 | z0rgl | then akedevs -r /home/gottella/Terracotta/Distrib/OpenEmbedded/build/tmp/rootfs -D /home/gottella/T |
| 13:44.45 | z0rgl | erracotta/Distrib/OpenEmbedded//openembedded/files/device_table-minimal.txt |
| 13:44.58 | rwhitby-away | z0rgl: are you using the latest 0.99.147 ipkg-native ? |
| 13:46.04 | z0rgl | how can I know ? |
| 13:46.34 | rwhitby-away | we get the same error when building unslung firmware. ipkg-native just isn't working right as far as pathnames to /usr/lib/ipkg and the OFFLINE_ROOT goes. |
| 13:46.52 | rwhitby-away | check your tmp/work directory |
| 13:47.14 | z0rgl | I'm using 0.99.147 ipkg-native |
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| 13:47.30 | rwhitby-away | yep, it has that bug |
| 13:47.40 | z0rgl | do you have a fix ? |
| 13:48.36 | Bernardo | anyone knows how can I get to a command line during boot on a clamshell? |
| 13:49.10 | XorA | supposed to be press keys when it tells you too |
| 13:49.19 | Bernardo | Ah, no need. Opie just booted on my sl-c1000 |
| 13:49.38 | rwhitby-away | z0rgl: no fix from me. I ignore that error. |
| 13:50.30 | Bernardo | Now to test opie support for it... :) |
| 13:51.28 | Bernardo | the time setting app gets confused with the 640x400 screen, when I add the Time server and Predict toolbars |
| 13:51.53 | hrw|work | NOTE:[15:51] package zbedic-0.9.4+cvs-20050404-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 13:52.53 | Bernardo | the included font sizes are too small |
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| 13:53.25 | Bernardo | liquid and qpe decorations buttons look awfull in 640x400 |
| 13:53.50 | hrw|work | Bernardo: oz 3.5.3 or newer cvsdate? |
| 13:53.51 | koen | can I generalize that? |
| 13:54.09 | koen | liquid looks awfull on any resolution |
| 13:54.27 | Bernardo | doesn't rotate automatically, manual rotation defaults the wrong way up |
| 13:56.13 | Bernardo | cf card isn't detected |
| 13:56.15 | drw- | Bernardo: you can change rotation direction in Settings->Appearance->Advanced tab |
| 13:56.25 | koen | heh |
| 13:56.49 | Noodles | Bernardo: Patch libopie. |
| 13:57.00 | Noodles | Otherwise it thinks the kernel isn't embedix. |
| 13:57.08 | Noodles | If you patch it, rotation starts the right way IME. |
| 13:57.36 | Noodles | And it can control the backlight too. |
| 13:58.01 | koen | mickeyl: "we need to ship Holger a clamshell" pb: "or ask him to hold his simpad real far away to test" |
| 13:58.35 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:59.16 | mickeyl | Bernardo: it worked now? |
| 13:59.18 | mickeyl | congrats |
| 13:59.20 | mickeyl | what was it? |
| 13:59.23 | Bernardo | hrw|work: 3.5.3 generated last night |
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| 13:59.42 | Bernardo | drw: yes, I know. It's just the default that is wrong for the akita |
| 14:00.04 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I didn't flash the kernel, just initrd |
| 14:00.24 | Bernardo | Noodles: ok, will have to check that |
| 14:00.26 | mickeyl | Bernardo: i see. does the akita/spitz need the c7x0 header or not? |
| 14:01.09 | Bernardo | mickeyl: how can I check that |
| 14:01.19 | Bernardo | the speed is decent, thoug |
| 14:01.39 | Bernardo | 526593 dhrys, 2.62 secs int test |
| 14:01.52 | Bernardo | text is only 487 cps |
| 14:02.03 | Bernardo | and gfx 2393.17 gops |
| 14:02.32 | Bernardo | not much of a improvement from a 750 |
| 14:02.34 | z0rgl | rwhitby-away : you ignore the error ? the build failed or not ? |
| 14:03.01 | hrw|work | Bernardo: text have to tested ~20 times in a row |
| 14:03.28 | hrw|work | Bernardo: you will see ~20k then |
| 14:03.29 | koen | c1000 is a pxa270, right? |
| 14:03.51 | hrw|work | right |
| 14:04.04 | koen | with "wireless mmx" |
| 14:04.23 | hrw|work | and pxafb |
| 14:04.42 | koen | pxafb is pretty nice on a fast cpu |
| 14:04.43 | Bernardo | pxa270 rev4 |
| 14:05.12 | Noodles | mickeyl: I think it does. |
| 14:05.19 | Noodles | (kernel want a header) |
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| 14:06.44 | Bernardo | strange - any reason why pcmcia wouldn't be included on a opie-image? I don't have cardctl on my akita |
| 14:12.39 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:12.42 | Bernardo | backlight isn't supported by the power applet too |
| 14:13.53 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3167.2.1 10openembedded/packages/mplayer/ (6 files in 2 dirs): update mplayer to 1.0pre6a, still broken - needs a C expert to unbreak demux_ogg.c |
| 14:18.02 | RP | Bernardo: I suspect some of your problems would be solved by teaching opie to look for 2.4 instead of embeddix kernels |
| 14:18.22 | mickeyl | akita support hit the tree after 1.2.0 |
| 14:18.28 | mickeyl | nothing I can do about that |
| 14:20.09 | hrw|work | cant we bump libopie? |
| 14:20.40 | mickeyl | i have enough things to do, I won't catch up with all cvs patches |
| 14:20.50 | mickeyl | 3.5.3 will contain opie 1.2.0 |
| 14:20.53 | hrw|work | ok |
| 14:20.55 | mickeyl | no cvs parts |
| 14:21.09 | mickeyl | later on, everything is open |
| 14:21.30 | mickeyl | it's bad enough we have such problems with tremor, xine, and mplayer |
| 14:21.41 | Bernardo | ok, I'll keep testing, we'll leave akita for a later version of oz |
| 14:22.05 | mickeyl | Bernardo: it would be important to find out why the kernel doesn't react at all |
| 14:22.19 | mickeyl | sounds like more or less the only critical thing to OZ support |
| 14:23.32 | Bernardo | ok, I'll test anything you want... :) |
| 14:23.41 | mickeyl | well... i'm out of ideas on that |
| 14:23.55 | Bernardo | another strange thing is the missing pcmcia support |
| 14:24.10 | Bernardo | for the kernel, it might need some sort of header |
| 14:26.36 | hrw|work | there wont be newer subapplet in near time |
| 14:26.45 | hrw|work | just got info from author |
| 14:26.55 | Noodles | Bernardo: I found installing pcmcia-cs worked ok on the C3000. |
| 14:27.02 | mickeyl | hrw|work: any particular reasons? |
| 14:27.27 | mickeyl | hrw|work: I'd find it better if that functionality was included in Opie. In the taskbar itself, not via some applet hacks |
| 14:27.44 | mickeyl | same goes for the keyzapplet and stuff |
| 14:27.44 | mickeyl | imo |
| 14:28.00 | hrw|work | mickeyl: no time - he also work on splitting applet and config |
| 14:28.19 | hrw|work | mickeyl: opie launcher is terrible to hack into |
| 14:28.59 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 14:29.08 | hrw|work | hi coredump |
| 14:29.30 | mickeyl | hrw|work: yeah. opie launcher needs to go away in the present form |
| 14:29.38 | mickeyl | it's strechted to its limits |
| 14:29.53 | mickeyl | morning core |
| 14:29.59 | mickeyl | BBL, going home |
| 14:30.04 | CoreDump|home | hey mickeyl, hrw|work |
| 14:30.13 | hrw|work | bye mickeyl |
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| 14:39.43 | koen | hey CosmicPenguin |
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| 14:42.17 | koen | RP: would mplayer work on 2.6 with the aticore lib? |
| 14:42.26 | RP | koen: yes |
| 14:42.35 | koen | very cool |
| 14:42.36 | XorA | koen: I use it everyday, -vo fbdev |
| 14:42.38 | RP | It needs a small tweak to atilib |
| 14:42.59 | RP | XorA: with the w100 extensions? |
| 14:43.05 | XorA | RP: ah no without |
| 14:43.15 | XorA | RP: you should check you tweak in |
| 14:43.38 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:43.44 | RP | I keep putting it off as I have the whole thing partially rewritten :) |
| 14:44.04 | XorA | RP: well tweak for now, super duper later :-) |
| 14:45.57 | RP | The tweak is to replace the MapBar function in atilib with the one in http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/ati1/map.c |
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| 14:55.24 | XorA | RP: get an error about mixing soft and hard float, not sure which to change, assembly or .c file |
| 14:55.29 | XorA | RP: or what to change |
| 14:55.45 | RP | XorA: Your compiler options are wrong |
| 14:55.58 | RP | Is this the oss atilib you're working on? |
| 14:56.55 | XorA | RP: yes |
| 14:57.57 | hrw|work | hi raster |
| 14:59.03 | RP | XorA: I ended up adding -mfpu=softfpa to the OEMAKE commandline - that bb file overrides it which probably isn't wise |
| 14:59.20 | RP | that will break hardfloat builds of course :) |
| 15:00.17 | koen | atilib hardfloat build are broken allready |
| 15:00.27 | koen | take a peak at the srcuri |
| 15:00.46 | koen | bla.${TARGETFPU}.tar.bz2 |
| 15:01.04 | koen | TARGETFPU is either "" or "soft" |
| 15:01.25 | RP | koen: I seem to have deleted that as well :) |
| 15:02.38 | RP | My oe tree looks broken as it doesn't show that :-/ |
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| 15:07.01 | XorA | ls |
| 15:18.36 | hrw|work | XorA: . .. |
| 15:18.48 | XorA | hrw|work: cheers |
| 15:19.00 | XorA | RP: arse I just deleted the video files from my Z |
| 15:19.06 | XorA | ~lart me |
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| 15:33.05 | RP | XorA: oops :-/ |
| 15:33.59 | XorA | RP: found example, now recompiling mplayer with vidix |
| 15:35.08 | koen | hmmm |
| 15:35.22 | koen | the sharp updater still says: RO filesystem |
| 15:37.24 | koen | grrr |
| 15:37.49 | koen | does anybody have a link on how to get it to make it a RW fs on boot? |
| 15:38.01 | RP | koen: Have you looked into the updater file to see what it checks to come to that conclusion? |
| 15:38.15 | RP | I've no idea how to make the filesystem RO... |
| 15:39.19 | koen | if [ $WFLG_INITRD != 0 ] then continue fi WFLG_INITRD=1 echo 'RO file system' |
| 15:40.02 | RP | it can't be looking at the attributes of the file on the CF card card can it? |
| 15:40.22 | koen | WFLG_INITRD is set to 0 at the top of the file |
| 15:40.53 | RP | are you sure its a working updater.sh? |
| 15:41.20 | koen | it happens with the one from oz352 and the one from OE |
| 15:42.55 | RP | I think it normally must say that |
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| 15:53.18 | koen | ah |
| 15:53.21 | koen | 2.6 mounts it rw |
| 15:53.35 | koen | now to get gpe to start |
| 15:54.01 | koen | or to stop it from exiting |
| 15:57.33 | mickeyl | fwiw, it never shown me anything else than RO file system :D |
| 15:58.03 | hrw|work | choose in past is 'choose' or 'choosed'? |
| 15:58.19 | hrw|work | rather choose? |
| 15:59.01 | koen | I think it's even 'chose' |
| 16:00.23 | hrw|work | ~spell choose |
| 16:00.27 | CosmicPenguin | chosen |
| 16:00.47 | hrw|work | "kingpow" - 'the chosen One' |
| 16:00.51 | aoe | choose - chose - chosen |
| 16:00.56 | hrw|work | s/kingpow/kungpow |
| 16:01.34 | mickeyl | any mplayer experts here ? |
| 16:01.48 | mickeyl | i upgraded to 1.0pre6try3a (or something) |
| 16:01.48 | aoe | wrt usage, more or less |
| 16:02.02 | CosmicPenguin | mickeyl: i'm an expert on complaining about it |
| 16:02.03 | mickeyl | but i have no idea which tremor version it needs and why it breaks |
| 16:02.04 | CosmicPenguin | but thats about it |
| 16:02.13 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:02.18 | mickeyl | doesn't really help me |
| 16:02.18 | mickeyl | he |
| 16:02.19 | mickeyl | h |
| 16:02.42 | aoe | tremor? what's that? |
| 16:02.50 | mickeyl | tremor is our integer ogg vorbis decoder |
| 16:03.04 | mickeyl | s/our/an/ |
| 16:03.10 | aoe | ah |
| 16:03.21 | koen | aha |
| 16:03.28 | koen | gpe-confd isn't running |
| 16:03.29 | aoe | another one or the one that is already used? |
| 16:03.45 | mickeyl | well, it used to build |
| 16:03.57 | mickeyl | but we have about three tremor versions in oe |
| 16:04.04 | mickeyl | and each version is needed by a different package |
| 16:04.05 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 16:04.31 | mickeyl | i'd like to just tag those needing older versions as broken |
| 16:04.40 | mickeyl | but i can't get mplayer to build with any version |
| 16:04.40 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:05.22 | aoe | :( |
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| 16:05.47 | aoe | the DEPENDS line in the .bb mentions tremor-20021126, but I don't suppose that helps you any |
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| 16:30.25 | treke | morning |
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| 16:37.44 | mickeyl | ~lart mplayer |
| 16:40.55 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3171 10openembedded/packages/mplayer/mplayer_1.0pre3try2.bb: mplayer 1.0pre3try2: s/husky/c7x0/ |
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| 16:57.51 | koen | hngr |
| 16:58.06 | koen | this gpe-image is completely non working |
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| 17:09.10 | CosmicPenguin | cute |
| 17:10.10 | RP | koen: any ideas why? |
| 17:12.36 | koen | koen@c7x0:~$ matchbox-window-manager & |
| 17:12.36 | koen | koen@c7x0:~$ root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?) |
| 17:12.46 | koen | mb-wm can't start |
| 17:14.19 | mallum | koen: maybe another wm is running ? |
| 17:14.27 | koen | like what? |
| 17:14.55 | mallum | koen: ps wax ? |
| 17:15.20 | mallum | koen: show anything odd ? |
| 17:15.38 | koen | not really |
| 17:16.47 | mallum | koen: is your DISPLAY set to your desktop ? ( if your ssh'ing in and try to run mb ) |
| 17:16.55 | koen | yes |
| 17:17.02 | mallum | koen: well |
| 17:17.09 | mallum | koen: set DISPLAY=:0 |
| 17:17.20 | RP | I saw the same error - I was in on a serial terminal |
| 17:17.23 | mallum | koen: you already have a wm runnin gon your desktop I expect |
| 17:18.06 | koen | same stuff |
| 17:18.10 | RP | I couldn't work out what the problem was. Would that show up if something had held the root window but released it? |
| 17:18.53 | mallum | that is really odd |
| 17:19.25 | mallum | koen: what if from your desktop you do something like DISPLAY=:ipaq:0 metacity |
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| 17:19.57 | koen | heh |
| 17:20.00 | koen | osx here |
| 17:20.09 | koen | I have no x wm installed |
| 17:21.31 | mallum | koen: ah I made matchbox not work if it detected some luser using OS X nearby |
| 17:21.51 | koen | that must be it |
| 17:21.54 | mallum | koen: install linux , then retry |
| 17:22.33 | mallum | koen: seriously though |
| 17:22.43 | mallum | koen: it really sounds like another wm is running |
| 17:22.51 | koen | yeah |
| 17:22.58 | koen | but I don't have it installed on my Z |
| 17:23.10 | mallum | koen: or someone has added some crack that is grabbing the wm root event selection |
| 17:25.20 | koen | we'll see |
| 17:25.24 | koen | I'll reboot the Z |
| 17:25.31 | koen | exec rxvt |
| 17:25.31 | koen | #exec matchbox-window-manager $@ |
| 17:25.45 | koen | that's the end of my ~/.matchbox/session right now |
| 17:26.15 | RP | I did find I could get it to work on odd occasions - I suspect a race |
| 17:27.13 | koen | a lot of stuff keeps running after I killed X |
| 17:29.14 | RP | I think it was under circumstances like that I found matchbox would load |
| 17:29.44 | koen | mb-desktop obscures the panel |
| 17:30.27 | koen | how can I find out what's hogging the root window? |
| 17:31.57 | RP | bbl - food |
| 17:32.14 | koen | koen@c7x0:~$ bbl - food |
| 17:32.14 | koen | -sh: bbl: not found |
| 17:32.16 | koen | :) |
| 17:32.45 | RP | koen: rm * -R ;-) |
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| 17:33.57 | hrw|work | bye all |
| 17:34.02 | koen | bye hrw|work |
| 17:34.03 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/index.php/en/opie-and-ttf/ :) |
| 17:43.22 | vol | hey guys, i got my dev environment working and id like to do some testing for poodle support |
| 17:43.50 | vol | so if i do bitbake opie-image, does that give me 3.5.3? |
| 17:44.12 | koen | look at conf/local.conf |
| 17:44.32 | koen | it builds what you set DISTRO too |
| 17:44.52 | vol | yea i have that set to oz |
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| 17:47.12 | koen | oz won't work |
| 17:47.23 | koen | either use openzaurus or openzaurus-3.5.3 |
| 17:47.23 | vol | its set to openzaurus |
| 17:48.01 | vol | ok, so i could also do openzaurus-3.5.2? |
| 17:48.15 | koen | no |
| 17:48.26 | vol | k |
| 17:48.35 | koen | you'll need an OE tree from the OZ-3.52 release date to do that |
| 17:51.34 | koen | aha |
| 17:51.38 | koen | mallum: it's ipaq-sleep |
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| 17:57.57 | koen | mallum: mb-wm starts only when I put it before ipaq-sleep in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/69ipaq-sleep |
| 17:58.09 | koen | removing the ipaq-sleep line also breaks it |
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| 18:00.56 | koen | to summarize: starting mb-wm after ipaq-sleep break and not starting ipaq-sleep break too |
| 18:01.03 | bipolar | has anyone seen any news about akamai being ddos'ed? Seems a lot of their customers are inaccessable. |
| 18:05.04 | Cwiiis | koen: Hate to sound like a broken record, but any luck? I'm gonna build an image from scratch with a cvs date of 20050207, see if that helps... If it doesn't work then, I have a feeling it might be something that's getting broken at configure... |
| 18:08.13 | jskcr|jlime | akamai's allways being dosed |
| 18:09.00 | jskcr|jlime | so much for decentralizing things |
| 18:11.02 | koen | Cwiiis: no luck yet, I'm trying to get gpe running on c7x0 at the moment |
| 18:11.12 | Cwiiis | koen: What's the problem with it? |
| 18:12.25 | koen | mb-wm won't start |
| 18:13.14 | VoodooZ_Work | I noticed that the udev package's init (udev) prints a message when the configuration variable udev_root is not equal to /udev/ which is wrong as the udev tarball has udev_root set to /udev |
| 18:13.23 | Cwiiis | koen: mb-wm wouldn't start with collie til I removed the keylaunch config file, might wanna try that? |
| 18:13.24 | VoodooZ_Work | (note the extra slash) |
| 18:13.53 | koen | Cwiiis: that's not the problem it seems |
| 18:13.55 | VoodooZ_Work | I was wondering if it's ok if I change the package's init file to check for /udev instead of /udev/? |
| 18:13.57 | Cwiiis | ah.. |
| 18:14.05 | koen | something's hogging the rootwindow |
| 18:14.05 | VoodooZ_Work | I don't want to mess up anything. |
| 18:16.01 | CosmicPenguin | VoodooZ_Work: if in doubt, work up a patch and send it to the mailing list |
| 18:16.12 | VoodooZ_Work | Cool. |
| 18:16.48 | VoodooZ_Work | This is for the NSLU2 group anyways so I'm sure somebody will catch it before it gets upstream. |
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| 18:36.20 | Radiance | guys, any one know what i can do to correct this issue (it happens after every package i install, package works fine btw) : file_move: ERROR: failed to rename /usr/lib/ipkg/status.tmp t/usr/lib/ipkg/status: No such file or directory o |
| 18:36.41 | Radiance | to* |
| 18:41.06 | koen | Radiance: topic, 3rd item |
| 18:43.30 | CosmicPenguin | sounds like an ipkg buglet to me |
| 18:43.56 | Radiance | well, it's a brand new install, a few weeks ago i did the same install and no such error |
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| 18:45.12 | koen | nevertheless |
| 18:45.16 | koen | Radiance: topic, 3rd item |
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| 18:45.41 | Radiance | koen, i know, i'm just telling cosmicpenguin it's a brand new install |
| 18:47.09 | mallum | koen: has ipaq-sleep been recently changed ? |
| 18:47.26 | koen | mallum: I don't think so |
| 18:47.39 | koen | mallum: but *removing* it breaks it to |
| 18:48.00 | koen | I suspect it's something that loads parallel to ipaq-sleep that breaks it |
| 18:49.15 | RP | When I was experimenting, it did seem like a race |
| 18:49.24 | RP | Just a question of a race with what |
| 18:49.30 | mallum | koen: do you know where the src of ipaq-sleep is ? |
| 18:49.38 | RP | koen: Try adding sleep 5's into the script? |
| 18:50.27 | koen | mallum: I suspect on the gpe-ftp |
| 18:50.53 | mallum | koen: okey |
| 18:51.33 | koen | RP: will try after I finish this baquette |
| 18:51.49 | mallum | koen: is it in cvs ? |
| 18:52.10 | koen | mallum: I guess so |
| 18:53.33 | uv1 | Good evening |
| 18:54.27 | uv1 | Trying to get gpe-image fpr c7x0 build. Finally I get 'ipkg-cl -f /data/scdev2/build-mfte-gpe/tmp/work/gpe-image-1.0-r17/temp/ipkg.conf -o /data/scdev2/build-mfte-gpe/tmp/rootfs install glibc-localedata-i18n |
| 18:54.27 | uv1 | | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied' |
| 18:54.35 | Radiance | any one managed to get the backlight to turn off on the 6000 ? |
| 18:54.36 | uv1 | Any ideas welcome |
| 18:56.07 | uv1 | Seems I am missing a GPE required Variable, so ipkg want to install to /usr/lib instead of staging/rootfs/usr/lib. |
| 18:58.07 | mallum | koen: ipaq-sleep is doing some stuff with X ScreenSaver extension. Maybe its that ( though it shouldn't be ) |
| 19:00.34 | koen | mallum: why does it fail when I remove ipaq-sleep from the script? |
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| 19:01.01 | mallum | koen: it fails if ipaq-sleep is removed ? |
| 19:01.12 | koen | correct |
| 19:01.50 | koen | it _only_ works when it's started right before ipaq-sleep |
| 19:01.54 | koen | it = mb-wm |
| 19:02.37 | mallum | nuts |
| 19:02.53 | koen | indeed |
| 19:03.15 | mallum | koen: do you have mb src there ? |
| 19:03.30 | koen | I traversed /etc/X11/Xsession.d/* top to bottom |
| 19:03.36 | koen | mallum: yes |
| 19:04.30 | mallum | koen: do you want to try something quickly ? |
| 19:04.43 | koen | sure |
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| 19:06.24 | mallum | koen: hmm maybe not |
| 19:06.33 | mallum | koen: let me think |
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| 19:14.50 | drowe | hey folks, I'm trying to make the 'gpe-image' with bitbake, and it bombed out on 'xserver-kdrive' any ideas on how to fix it? |
| 19:14.57 | drowe | at least for my own build |
| 19:14.59 | Cwiiis | the preferred version in openzaurus-3.5.3.conf of ipkg-native 0.99.144 is unnecessary now, right? |
| 19:15.08 | Cwiiis | drowe: Be a bit more specific...? |
| 19:15.53 | drowe | I setup my box according to the OE wiki, and ran 'bitbake gpe-image' and just got the message: NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207-r9: task do_compile: failed |
| 19:16.54 | drowe | it looks like it failed in the epson1306stub |
| 19:17.28 | koen | drowe: how recent is your OE tree |
| 19:17.30 | koen | ? |
| 19:17.32 | Cwiiis | drowe: It shouldn't |
| 19:19.09 | drowe | Cwiiis: I believe I pulled the sources via BitKeeper on March 31 |
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| 19:19.18 | drowe | what's the command to update the tree? |
| 19:19.25 | koen | bk pull |
| 19:19.25 | zecke | drowe: bk pull? |
| 19:19.30 | zecke | drowe: sfioball |
| 19:23.27 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 19:23.51 | drowe | what's the best way to create a streamlined build without any extra modules? |
| 19:25.37 | koen | edit conf/machine/YOURMACHINE.conf |
| 19:25.56 | koen | and see what it includes |
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| 19:29.36 | schurig|home | drowe: do you mean you want only compile the minimum set of *.bb packages? |
| 19:30.01 | schurig|home | drowe: or do you even want to make bitbake only read in/scan/parse the minimal set of *.bb files? |
| 19:30.25 | schurig|home | if the first, then just don't do "bitbake world", but "bitmake <minimal image>". |
| 19:30.59 | schurig|home | if the second, then add lots of BBFILES += "path/to/some/bbfile.bb" into your local conf. Add all what you need until it works. :-) |
| 19:31.17 | schurig|home | bitbake will tell you about missing dependencies |
| 19:31.30 | schurig|home | this is tedious, but saves you the extremely long scan/parse times :-) |
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| 19:34.49 | drowe | I mainly want to 1. speed up the build process and 2. have a personalized image with my defaults set, is this possible? |
| 19:35.38 | koen | it is |
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| 20:37.28 | Pigi | Ciao all |
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| 20:52.22 | joshua_ | all -- looking nfor a h2210/2215 w/ dead display (or otherwise free). will pay shipping. |
| 21:05.39 | mickeyl | anyone recommending some qpe-games which are looking good on vga ? |
| 21:05.51 | mickeyl | need some additional games for the default image |
| 21:08.10 | koen | scummvm + moneky island 3 |
| 21:08.30 | mickeyl | hmm, these are a bit heavy weight as they're sucking in libsdl and more |
| 21:08.53 | koen | I know :) |
| 21:09.05 | koen | but you can't live without scummvm |
| 21:09.25 | koen | I even have it on winCE |
| 21:10.49 | mickeyl | yeah, it's cool, no question |
| 21:15.14 | RP | I'm not sure I ever played Monkey Island 3. I remember 1 and 2 :) |
| 21:15.36 | vol | is 2.6 working for poodle? |
| 21:15.42 | koen | I bought the bounty kit: 1,2 and 3 for E10 |
| 21:16.40 | RP | I played them the first time around along with all the other LA games of that age. I don't seem to find games like that anymore... |
| 21:17.22 | koen | I still need to play grim fandago |
| 21:17.43 | RP | In fact I haven't played a game in ages... I must find some and play them. The 2.6 kernel work will suffer though :) |
| 21:17.49 | koen | fandango* |
| 21:18.27 | Cwiiis | RP: Get a Gameboy, play on the go :) |
| 21:18.32 | vol | heh suffer? well im doing this to try and help so i figured thered be some problems |
| 21:18.57 | RP | vol: John lenz is working on 2.6 poodle |
| 21:19.13 | RP | See the link on http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/ |
| 21:19.21 | vol | ok thanks |
| 21:19.55 | RP | vol: poodle support is the most advanced after c7x0 |
| 21:21.32 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:22.12 | mickeyl | n8 koen |
| 21:23.13 | vol | yea i see what you mean by suffer, i was in the process of building a gpe-image with 2.6 but i tihnk ill stop that |
| 21:27.07 | RP | 'night koen|sleep |
| 21:28.04 | RP | vol: by suffer I mean that c7x0 (which I've worked on) won't improve if I spend my time doing other things like playing games |
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| 21:32.16 | loial|away | nite all |
| 22:00.08 | Pigi | nite all |
| 22:03.19 | Philippe | hello everybody. CVS snapshots seem to be broken again. Will it be fixed? |
| 22:05.11 | pb_ | yeah, but it's contingent on treke.net being fixed. You'd need to check in with Greg. |
| 22:06.08 | Philippe | Ok. Well until then I can try the other bitkeeper tool that is now mentioned on the wiki. Thanks! |
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| 22:09.01 | treke | ? |
| 22:09.07 | treke | something broken? |
| 22:09.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:09.29 | kergoth | morning |
| 22:09.31 | treke | ah |
| 22:09.33 | treke | that could be |
| 22:09.35 | kergoth | i didnt fucking wake up until 3pm today |
| 22:09.38 | kergoth | my schedule is so out of whack |
| 22:09.39 | treke | kergoth: mornin |
| 22:10.47 | mickeyl | morning kergoth |
| 22:10.57 | treke | or it could be that I had the cronjob comented out :p |
| 22:11.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:11.45 | treke | I'm allowing file lists for everything but source |
| 22:11.54 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:12.01 | treke | that one is just too big |
| 22:12.45 | treke | you know there is a problem when you are downloading a bigger directory listing than the file you are looking for |
| 22:14.28 | pb_ | no, the cvs stuff doesn't depend on a file list. If the snaps themselves are working again, that should be fine. |
| 22:14.44 | treke | mickeyl: you see zecke's letter? |
| 22:14.50 | pb_ | kergoth: crumbs, getting worse by the day. |
| 22:14.57 | kergoth | heh, indeed |
| 22:15.02 | treke | give it another week or so |
| 22:15.06 | pb_ | kergoth: still, give it another week or so and you'll have slipped a whole 24 hours |
| 22:15.09 | treke | soon you'll be right back to normal |
| 22:15.13 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:15.26 | mickeyl | yeah, wraparound |
| 22:15.40 | mickeyl | treke: yes, i read it |
| 22:15.57 | pb_ | though I guess that would mean you'd have lost a whole day of your life somewhere along the line, which can't be good. |
| 22:16.00 | mickeyl | treke|home: i'm all for him sending it. I'm sure it will be ignored, but we will feel better afterwards |
| 22:16.00 | mickeyl | heh |
| 22:16.19 | mickeyl | pb_: wouldn't be the first day ;)) |
| 22:16.27 | pb_ | mickeyl: hah |
| 22:16.29 | treke | hehe. been doing a little editing. Hoping we can get it a bit more reasonable before he sends it :p |
| 22:16.40 | mickeyl | treke: sure. he attempts end of this week |
| 22:16.42 | pb_ | heh. who is zecke writing to? |
| 22:16.59 | mickeyl | open letter to TT management and some devels |
| 22:17.04 | pb_ | aha |
| 22:17.08 | treke | I don't suspect calling everyone in .au a bunchg of lying inept developers is a positive move |
| 22:17.21 | mickeyl | no, it should be serious |
| 22:17.25 | mickeyl | it has a serious message |
| 22:17.25 | CosmicPenguin | Might as well just print out an ascii art of a middle finger and call it good |
| 22:17.32 | treke | haha |
| 22:17.34 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:18.40 | treke | bitkeeper is one thing, but it should at least be semi professional |
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| 22:25.25 | Philippe | goodnight |
| 22:25.31 | mickeyl | g'night Philippe |
| 22:25.37 | Bernardo | re |
| 22:26.17 | Bernardo | mickeyl: anything you want me to test on the akita that takes less than 5 minutes? :) |
| 22:26.29 | mickeyl | heh, not offhand, no |
| 22:27.05 | mickeyl | you could find out a sharp email to pester them about the GPL |
| 22:27.11 | mickeyl | shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes |
| 22:27.43 | Bernardo | ok... I also have a small problem building meta-opie for akita using sharprom-compatible as the distro, sqlite3 won't build complaining of missing pthreads symbols when linking |
| 22:28.00 | Bernardo | That I can do tomorrow, I really need to pester them |
| 22:28.18 | mickeyl | yeah, sqlite3 buildsystem contains a bug. it's host specific if it finds pthreads or not |
| 22:28.27 | mickeyl | should convert it from autotools to the preconfigured Makefile |
| 22:28.29 | treke | does akita have the newer screen? |
| 22:28.53 | Bernardo | it has the same as the spitz, it seems |
| 22:28.57 | Bernardo | it looks nice |
| 22:29.07 | treke | does spitz have the new screen? :p |
| 22:29.11 | mickeyl | ya |
| 22:29.19 | mickeyl | all have the reflective one |
| 22:29.21 | Bernardo | mickeyl: no simple way to hack around that bug? |
| 22:29.39 | treke | ooh? |
| 22:29.44 | pb_ | sharp discovered reflective screens? awesome. |
| 22:29.48 | treke | might have to get an akita at some point |
| 22:29.48 | mickeyl | Bernardo: try LDFLAGS_append = -lpthread |
| 22:29.54 | mickeyl | or rather += |
| 22:30.00 | mickeyl | instead of append |
| 22:30.05 | mickeyl | pb_: yeah, took them some models... |
| 22:30.18 | pb_ | mickeyl: better late than never |
| 22:33.14 | treke | akita would be 503 dollars |
| 22:33.22 | treke | nice price |
| 22:33.30 | mickeyl | ya, not too bad |
| 22:33.32 | treke | 393 euro |
| 22:33.45 | mickeyl | 599 here |
| 22:33.51 | CosmicPenguin | thats some serious coin - as much as a Dell desktop |
| 22:33.52 | treke | price japan is your friend |
| 22:33.53 | mickeyl | from trisoft.de |
| 22:34.51 | Bernardo | treke: I bought from price japan, the final price was 440 including the power adapter and 3.9% extra for paypal credit card |
| 22:35.04 | Bernardo | I also ended up paying 44 euros in taxes |
| 22:35.19 | treke | Bernardo: yeah no power adapator needed here :p |
| 22:35.28 | Bernardo | well, have to go. Good night! |
| 22:35.50 | treke | not likely to buy one any time soon, but the screen would be a major improvement |
| 22:36.33 | Bernardo | ah... sqlite failed to find libpthread.so.0 |
| 22:36.38 | treke | nice part about price japan is 1) they are cheap 2) they are fast and 3) they do warranty stuff |
| 22:36.43 | Bernardo | I'll have to check that tomorrow |
| 22:37.01 | mickeyl | next linux thingy i'll buy is a phone |
| 22:37.03 | mickeyl | nothing else |
| 22:37.06 | pb_ | conics has the sl-c1000 for $539. that's the akita, right? |
| 22:37.10 | mickeyl | pb_: yes |
| 22:37.19 | treke | I don't imagine I'll ever get a linux phone |
| 22:37.28 | mickeyl | ~akita |
| 22:37.29 | ibot | i heard akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog |
| 22:37.34 | treke | don't think one will ever be open in any way shape or form |
| 22:37.36 | CosmicPenguin | geekstuff4u has it posted for 537.80 |
| 22:37.47 | Bernardo | 'night |
| 22:37.51 | mickeyl | treke: TT is fighting to make it so |
| 22:38.04 | mickeyl | open enough to create a 3rd party market |
| 22:38.09 | mickeyl | lets see if they succeed |
| 22:38.09 | treke | are they? Not the impression I've gotten from ljp |
| 22:38.24 | pb_ | mickeyl: heh, that doesn't sound like the TT we know |
| 22:38.26 | pb_ | and, ahem, love |
| 22:38.29 | mickeyl | hogne told me they were trying to convince people |
| 22:38.35 | mickeyl | s/people/manufacturers/ |
| 22:38.58 | treke | if that happens I'd be thrilled |
| 22:39.23 | treke | but I don't want a phone with all the downsides of linux and all the downsides of windows ce in one package |
| 22:39.57 | mickeyl | the motorolas are pretty popular |
| 22:40.03 | mickeyl | all i've seen work nice |
| 22:40.07 | mickeyl | and that's already qte |
| 22:40.15 | Twiun | yeah they do |
| 22:40.22 | treke | I thought those didn't have hardware keypads |
| 22:40.31 | mickeyl | some do |
| 22:41.30 | CosmicPenguin | The US telcos will fight like bears to keep those closed |
| 22:42.07 | mickeyl | that would be bears against kangaroos |
| 22:42.14 | mickeyl | i bet on the kangaroos |
| 22:42.23 | treke | hehe I wouldn't :) |
| 22:43.27 | pb_ | mm, right. especially not since the kangaroos are upside down. |
| 22:43.32 | pb_ | that's gotta be a disadvantage. |
| 22:44.12 | CosmicPenguin | Unless they are koala bears |
| 22:44.30 | CosmicPenguin | and then they would both be upside down |
| 22:45.34 | pb_ | true |
| 22:45.38 | pb_ | or dropbears, I suppose |
| 22:46.17 | Twiun | hahaha |
| 22:47.48 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:47.58 | pb_ | night mickey |
| 22:50.45 | treke | soon twiun and pb_ will be leaving us as well |
| 22:50.54 | pb_ | true enough |
| 22:51.00 | Twiun | yeah |
| 22:51.07 | Twiun | 10mins tops :) |
| 22:51.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 22:54.54 | pb_ | well, this time next week I will be in the land of koalas, dropbears and crazy trolls. should be fun. |
| 22:56.24 | treke | this is nutty |
| 22:58.14 | treke | my expense report was approved, but one item was rejected off of it |
| 22:58.26 | treke | except there was only one item on it |
| 22:58.31 | pb_ | ha |
| 22:58.44 | pb_ | sounds like a neat trick |
| 22:58.50 | CosmicPenguin | They approve of you not having any expenses |
| 23:00.12 | pb_ | darn bosses |
| 23:01.36 | Twiun | ;) |
| 23:01.56 | Twiun | g'night guys |
| 23:02.01 | pb_ | night |
| 23:02.10 | pb_ | ah, it's after midnight |
| 23:02.32 | treke | and the account dapartment can't do simple fucking addition |
| 23:07.18 | koen|sleep | urgs |
| 23:07.50 | koen|sleep | I'm even reading opie-devel out of sheer boredom |
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