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| 00:59.48 | cliff_ | i am new to zaurus development and i have trouble setting up the tool chain....i cloned the oe files with bitbake but there was no file bitbake.conf.....anybody willing to help here? |
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| 01:12.29 | reenoo_ | cliff_: you'll need to download bitbake. see http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 01:12.37 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 01:12.42 | cliff_ | wait |
| 01:12.52 | cliff_ | i downloaded bitbake already |
| 01:13.04 | cliff_ | bitbake seems to work |
| 01:13.39 | cliff_ | but there should be the bitbake.conf file in sources of oe or not? |
| 01:13.46 | reenoo_ | no |
| 01:14.21 | cliff_ | the getting started says something about local.conf...but that seems to not exitst |
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| 01:15.24 | reenoo_ | right. you need to create one. there's a sample in openembedded/conf/local.conf.sample |
| 01:15.54 | reenoo_ | again. read http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 01:16.09 | cliff_ | wait |
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| 02:20.19 | HCl | moin.cgi? |
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| 04:09.56 | kergoth | @familyguy |
| 04:09.57 | kbot | kergoth: <Peter> Make like Siamese twins and split ... and then one of you die. |
| 05:22.13 | treke|home | hey kergoth |
| 05:22.20 | kergoth | hey |
| 05:22.26 | treke|home | I miss having storage space |
| 05:22.40 | treke|home | trying to fit a chair and two fans into my car was "fun" ;p |
| 05:23.22 | treke|home | the one downside to not having a truck |
| 05:23.48 | kergoth | yeah, thats always a pain. |
| 05:26.27 | treke|home | how's wow going? |
| 05:27.39 | kergoth | not bad. havent played that much |
| 05:32.35 | treke|home | apparantly the inventory managers are under the odd misconception that we have a cold season |
| 06:00.39 | treke|home | hmm there goes my easter plans |
| 06:09.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:20.41 | treke|home | ah just found out my mother was working tonight. Was supposed to have easter lunch with her |
| 06:21.16 | treke|home | and most likely she wont be up until 2 or 3 in the afternoon |
| 06:47.00 | kergoth | ah, thats too bad |
| 06:47.23 | kergoth | i expect my easter will be boring and depressing, as most holidays spent by one's self are |
| 06:47.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:19.55 | treke|home | yeah |
| 07:20.09 | treke|home | working nights must suck |
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| 08:01.08 | uv1 | Good morning and happy Easter ;-) |
| 08:06.41 | uv1 | Just builded the newest openzaurus-2.5.3 opie-image. When I want to login from my host, I am asked for a root password ! A passwd in the opie console does not work either. What is the standard password ? |
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| 08:40.43 | uv1 | Good morning and happy Easter ;-) |
| 08:40.45 | uv1 | Just builded the newest openzaurus-2.5.3 opie-image. When I want to login from my host, I am asked for a root password ! A passwd in the opie console does not work either. What is the standard password ? |
| 08:41.06 | gremlin[it] | happy easter |
| 08:41.08 | gremlin[it] | !!! |
| 08:41.08 | cdbot | gremlin[it]: Don't know, don't care |
| 08:41.32 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:41.35 | koen | cdbot: shut up |
| 08:41.36 | cdbot | koen: ?? |
| 08:41.52 | gremlin[it] | hahah :) |
| 09:00.49 | gremlin[it] | something to do tuesday ... pppd still miss to add -lcrypt :) |
| 09:01.30 | uv1 | Good morning and happy Easter ;-) |
| 09:02.31 | uv1 | Just builded the newest openzaurus-3.5.3 opie-image. Is it correct, that my Z want a root password now ? What is the password ? |
| 09:09.18 | uv1 | A 'passwd' entered in the konsole did provide my private password. Shouldn't that be done during first startup ? |
| 09:10.22 | gremlin[it] | uv1: i don't know openzaurus but familiar ask for root password on first startup |
| 09:11.12 | gremlin[it] | and if i remember correct is empty password so is possible to logint via serial with root and null password |
| 09:11.21 | koen | gremlin[it]: only gpe |
| 09:11.33 | koen | opie has the empty password |
| 09:11.44 | koen | (yay for security!) |
| 09:11.51 | uv1 | gremlin[it]: familiar does I know ? OZ did not until now! |
| 09:12.31 | uv1 | koen: Good, but should that not be communicated ? May OZ mails will come in, when users update to 3.5.3 |
| 09:12.49 | koen | uv1: it has been that way for 3.5.2 too |
| 09:12.59 | koen | opie still has the epmty password |
| 09:13.21 | uv1 | koen: Why can I not login without password then, using ssh ? |
| 09:16.44 | koen | ah yes |
| 09:16.59 | koen | the passwdless ssh login patch isn't applied to releases anymore |
| 09:17.06 | koen | that should be noted indeed |
| 09:17.43 | uv1 | koen: can you do that ? |
| 09:17.56 | koen | for familiar, yes |
| 09:18.16 | koen | For OZ release notes you should ask mickey|bbl |
| 09:18.16 | uv1 | Who can do that for OZ ? |
| 09:18.31 | uv1 | koen: OK, I'll do that. |
| 09:48.03 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 11:12.02 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 11:13.54 | jskcr | morin |
| 11:17.16 | jskcr | There is no nethack in the oe? |
| 11:17.21 | jskcr | That is blasphamy!!! |
| 11:17.30 | mickeyl | feel free to add it |
| 11:17.40 | mickeyl | the opie version is in opie-bigapps cvs @ handhelds.org |
| 11:17.45 | jskcr | Im afraid, it may cause development issues. |
| 11:17.46 | mickeyl | hasn't been looked at for ages though |
| 11:18.00 | uv1 | mickeyl: have problems to login to the newest OZ build using ssh. OZ wants a root password. koen said, that this is due to the non existing "passwdless loging with ssh" patch. |
| 11:18.11 | mickeyl | that's by design |
| 11:18.18 | mickeyl | empty root password has been disabled in release builds |
| 11:18.20 | mickeyl | from now on |
| 11:18.35 | mickeyl | set a non-empty one |
| 11:18.38 | mickeyl | and then it'll work |
| 11:19.03 | uv1 | mickeyl: Since when ? Shouldn't that be noted. How to set a non empty one with the GUI ? I did it with embedded console. |
| 11:19.14 | mickeyl | right. |
| 11:19.20 | mickeyl | console is the app to use |
| 11:20.00 | uv1 | mickeyl: Poor OZ users. I expect the mailing list to have a lot of mail traffic then ;-( |
| 11:20.07 | CoreDump|home | IIRC someone added this functionality to opie-login |
| 11:20.15 | mickeyl | changes happen. |
| 11:20.32 | mickeyl | i'm not going to add GUI apps for every little thing |
| 11:20.40 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: maybe change motd to mention ths change? |
| 11:20.44 | uv1 | mickeyl: What does that mean ? opie-login standard ? |
| 11:21.00 | jskcr | That might not be a bad idea to change the motd |
| 11:21.11 | mickeyl | tt will be noted in the ReleaseNotes, that would be sufficient. |
| 11:21.15 | mickeyl | to me |
| 11:21.22 | mickeyl | feel free to add it to motd |
| 11:21.25 | mickeyl | no idea how that works |
| 11:21.41 | mickeyl | uv1: no. opie-login makes no sense when you can't login as non-root |
| 11:21.54 | mickeyl | i won't include opie-login until someone fixes opie as non-root user |
| 11:22.05 | uv1 | mickeyl: OK than. I can live with that! |
| 11:23.27 | CoreDump|home | can someone here pls confirm if motd is printed when connection to dropbear? |
| 11:23.47 | mickeyl | how can i try ? |
| 11:23.58 | CoreDump|home | blehh, my english rox0rs today |
| 11:24.04 | mickeyl | heh |
| 11:24.05 | CoreDump|home | just ssh to your Z, |
| 11:24.17 | CoreDump|home | motd should be printed above the Login: |
| 11:24.28 | mickeyl | i don't see anything |
| 11:24.33 | CoreDump|home | sigh |
| 11:24.35 | mickeyl | but then again, isn't our motd empty ? |
| 11:24.44 | CoreDump|home | I'll check |
| 11:24.56 | CoreDump|home | ~lart dropbear anyways |
| 11:25.36 | CoreDump|home | doh, now it's indeed empty |
| 11:25.53 | mickeyl | where is it supposed to live ? |
| 11:26.26 | mickeyl | etc |
| 11:26.30 | CoreDump|home | /etc/motd |
| 11:26.32 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
| 11:26.47 | CoreDump|home | i mixed it up w/ /etc/issue (which isn't empty) |
| 11:27.17 | mickeyl | woot |
| 11:27.19 | mickeyl | gets printed |
| 11:27.30 | mickeyl | Have a lot of fun... |
| 11:27.31 | mickeyl | root@collie:~# |
| 11:27.53 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 11:28.22 | reenoo_ | I always want to shoot someone when reading that |
| 11:28.34 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 11:28.40 | mickeyl | i think you have to shoot SuSE |
| 11:28.47 | mickeyl | iirc they were the first with that damn motd |
| 11:28.50 | reenoo_ | indeed |
| 11:29.49 | CoreDump|home | heh, IIRC I've seen this motd on Solaris 8, too. Dunno if it is the default or not :) |
| 11:30.03 | reenoo_ | I doubt it |
| 11:30.16 | CoreDump|home | maybe a SuSE fanboy added it heh |
| 11:30.46 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3196 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (3 files): remove opie-showimg from the repository. it's unsupported. |
| 11:30.46 | mickeyl | i'm not sure if "empty root passwords have been disabled" wasn't pretty annoying |
| 11:30.58 | mickeyl | consider it being shown every time |
| 11:31.34 | mickeyl | what's the state on the latest ipkg ? |
| 11:31.40 | reenoo_ | well.. there's no point in adding it to motd which is printed _after_ you've logged in |
| 11:31.46 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 11:31.48 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 11:32.11 | reenoo_ | and I wouldn't want anything like that in issue |
| 11:32.56 | mickeyl | me neither |
| 11:33.11 | mickeyl | so it needs to be sufficient with the release notes |
| 11:33.21 | mickeyl | actually i like that. people need to be educated to read the release notes. |
| 11:34.25 | CoreDump|home | they won't. They never do. |
| 11:34.36 | mickeyl | then I won't help em |
| 11:38.30 | mickeyl | koen|away: ping |
| 11:40.28 | mickeyl | urghs |
| 11:40.31 | mickeyl | where does that come from: |
| 11:40.38 | mickeyl | root@collie:/# cat 1 |
| 11:40.38 | mickeyl | mount: Mounting /dev/mmcda3 on /media/card2 failed: Invalid argument |
| 11:40.38 | mickeyl | mount: Mounting /dev/mmcda4 on /media/card3 failed: Invalid argument |
| 11:40.39 | mickeyl | ln: /home/samba/SD_Card: No such file or directory |
| 11:40.44 | mickeyl | on my root partition |
| 11:40.47 | mickeyl | brand new flash |
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| 11:48.57 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: mind if I revert the openssh sshd_config to secure defaults as well? |
| 11:49.07 | mickeyl | reenoo_: sure, go ahead |
| 11:49.16 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: bug in sdcontrol |
| 11:49.19 | mickeyl | you missed a '&' |
| 11:49.23 | mickeyl | could you fix that? |
| 11:49.25 | mickeyl | (2>1) |
| 11:49.34 | CoreDump|home | sure |
| 11:49.36 | mickeyl | thank |
| 11:49.38 | mickeyl | ss |
| 11:50.45 | bluelightning | hi mickeyl |
| 11:50.55 | bluelightning | hi CoreDump|home, reenoo_ |
| 11:50.55 | mickeyl | morning blue |
| 11:51.06 | CoreDump|home | hi bluelightning |
| 11:51.27 | reenoo_ | hey bluelightning |
| 11:53.16 | CIA-3 | 03reenoo 07 * r1.3141.2.1 10openembedded/packages/openssh/ (4 files in 3 dirs): openssh: revert to secure "PermitEmptyPasswords no" in the default sshd_config |
| 11:53.49 | CIA-3 | 03CoreDump 07 * r1.3195.1.1 10openembedded/packages/sharp-binary-only/sharp-sdmmc-support-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/sdcontrol: Fix 2>1 to 2>&1 |
| 11:55.20 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3196.1.1 10openembedded/packages/timezones/timezones_1.2.0.bb: fix timezones not packaging New York and Los Angeles |
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| 12:28.07 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: so opie is still broken when running as a non-root user? |
| 12:28.24 | mickeyl | i think so |
| 12:28.32 | mickeyl | no on did any work on that since months |
| 12:28.33 | mickeyl | or years |
| 12:28.37 | mickeyl | s/on/one/ |
| 12:28.44 | mickeyl | i must admit i never tried it though |
| 12:28.48 | mickeyl | perhaps it just works (tm) ? |
| 12:28.50 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:29.19 | mickeyl | what does the X server run as? |
| 12:29.20 | zecke | I'm sure opie can run as non-root when everything is world writable |
| 12:29.27 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:29.34 | mickeyl | defeats the purpose a bit doesn't it? :D |
| 12:31.04 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: this is why I'm asking: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.linux.familiar/20108 |
| 12:31.50 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:32.05 | mickeyl | worth a try sometimes |
| 12:32.12 | mickeyl | i'm personally not interested, but someone else could try |
| 12:32.32 | mickeyl | i can live with the root user, i think there are many more important problems |
| 12:32.35 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 12:32.54 | reenoo_ | mickeyl: and X itself runs as root. the session runs as the user you login as |
| 12:33.06 | zecke | mickeyl: do you've a clue about autorepeat? |
| 12:33.15 | zecke | mickeyl: will /dev/tty always be autorepeated? |
| 12:33.18 | mickeyl | zecke: other than having it fixed for ipaq and sl5xxx, no idea |
| 12:33.47 | mickeyl | zecke_: not sure. keyboard is a weak spot in my knowledge |
| 12:34.30 | zecke | yeah I don't use keyboards very often as well, specially since I've that implantat... |
| 12:34.52 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:34.55 | mickeyl | brain-to-tty? |
| 12:35.11 | zecke | mickeyl: directly using the XBrain extension |
| 12:35.46 | zecke | mickeyl: I've implanted it into my cats as well and now we're a clustered |
| 12:36.44 | zecke | mickeyl: the only con is I'm jelous of the holiy penguin because he has herings |
| 12:37.18 | reenoo_ | ~herring zecke |
| 12:38.43 | ibot | ACTION whacks zecke on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 12:38.43 | zecke | ok I think every implementor of a keyboard is nuts |
| 12:38.43 | zecke | of a keyboard driver... |
| 12:38.43 | reenoo_ | ~stab self |
| 12:38.46 | ibot | ACTION runs at self with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 12:38.47 | reenoo_ | nm |
| 12:38.47 | zecke | ~botsnack |
| 12:38.47 | ibot | zecke: :) |
| 12:38.48 | bluelightning | looks like it's broked |
| 12:38.49 | bluelightning | or not |
| 12:40.01 | mickeyl | lagging |
| 12:45.58 | mickeyl | btw., any one volunteering to look at the clock issue on c7x0? sltime is in OE but apparantly it doesn't fully work yet. We would need to sort that out before the 3.5.3 release. |
| 12:46.57 | mickeyl | probably just checking the order of the rc.d scripts, i.e. regarding the call to hwtime |
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| 12:54.44 | zecke | cya later |
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| 13:14.06 | pb_ | hi all |
| 13:14.20 | bluelightning | hi pb_ |
| 13:14.52 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 13:44.01 | Pendalar | mmm diet orange juice |
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| 14:24.12 | zecke | kergoth: I think the licensing header(s) of the qkeyboard_tty.cpp is longer than the actual code :} |
| 14:28.23 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:28.30 | Crofton | morning |
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| 15:02.18 | jskcr | Why is curl in oe build without ssl by default in oe? |
| 15:07.03 | koen | becuase ssl is HUGE :) |
| 15:07.12 | koen | 1.6MB or something |
| 15:07.35 | jskcr | good point |
| 15:08.01 | jskcr | I was working on getting centericq running which it is now. and it depends on curl with ssl support |
| 15:08.27 | koen | I see |
| 15:08.30 | jskcr | I from the land of linux installed on a 1 gig cf card and not the ram :P |
| 15:09.27 | koen | you could look at wpa-supplicant and bluez to see how OE handles such things |
| 15:09.41 | jskcr | cool. |
| 15:09.52 | koen | I'll be happy to add curl-with-ssl.bb |
| 15:09.57 | jskcr | Ken will send ya the openssl patch for the sh3 arch |
| 15:10.35 | koen | Let's see if I can get ssh muxes to work |
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| 15:11.03 | jskcr | koen, does dropbear ssh send the passwords in plain text? |
| 15:11.06 | gremlin[it] | hi to all ... |
| 15:11.12 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 15:11.18 | koen | jskcr: I don't know |
| 15:11.25 | koen | I use keybased auth on my systems |
| 15:11.29 | gremlin[it] | perl-native miss " -lpthread -lm " |
| 15:11.42 | gremlin[it] | hi koen ... already finish wth parents ? |
| 15:11.57 | jskcr | Well it does from what I can see, I tried and had to set sshd to plain text passwords before it would agree on a auth mode |
| 15:11.58 | gremlin[it] | ;) |
| 15:11.59 | koen | gremlin[it]: no, but I ceased the adsl modem :) |
| 15:12.08 | gremlin[it] | hahaha ;) |
| 15:12.23 | koen | (which crashed osx after removing it) |
| 15:12.33 | koen | ~lart alcatel |
| 15:13.53 | jskcr | koen btw the current centericq is broken in oe I spendt 1/2 hour before I knoticed this in the .bb file lol # FIXME: ugly compile failures |
| 15:14.06 | koen | heh |
| 15:14.34 | jskcr | I have patches for the current version 4.20.0 |
| 15:16.16 | koen | send them to oe@handhelds.org when they are ready |
| 15:16.37 | jskcr | kk |
| 15:17.06 | jskcr | Ill set BROKEN = "0" the bb file lol |
| 15:17.20 | koen | you can remove that line :) |
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| 15:18.31 | jskcr | I have a few more im working on ill just send ya a hashball of them when im done ;) |
| 15:18.50 | jskcr | er tarball |
| 15:19.29 | koen | I think unified diffs are preferred |
| 15:19.44 | koen | not sure on the official policy |
| 15:20.10 | jskcr | I was just gonna tarball up the diffs, there will be a few of them for sh3 support. |
| 15:20.14 | pb_ | unified diffs for changes, loose files for additions. |
| 15:20.17 | pb_ | please don't send tarballs. |
| 15:21.29 | jskcr | koen whats the weather like, ill be in amsterdam in about 2 months |
| 15:21.49 | koen | foggy and cold at the moment (up north) |
| 15:22.16 | koen | I think it will be sunny and warm (22 C) in two months |
| 15:22.38 | jskcr | cool :), Im heading there for a week on holiday. |
| 15:22.48 | koen | nice |
| 15:27.49 | pb_ | oh dear, my local oe repository is broken again. |
| 15:28.19 | koen | that's why I always keep a clean repo around |
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| 15:29.39 | koen | I must say the last two bk resolve did actually work |
| 15:29.58 | koen | resolves* |
| 15:30.34 | pb_ | yeah, I don't think bk resolve has ever caused me any trouble. |
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| 15:31.16 | [cc]smart | jskcr: for as long as the world is round, ssh/dropbear is expected to NEVER *SEND/TRANSMIT* a password plaintext. if you'd see that on the wire, i'd expect you to use hacked sources. |
| 15:31.26 | pb_ | I have a suspicion that the kernel on my build machine is corrupting files from time to time, actually. I guess that isn't really bitkeeper's fault. |
| 15:32.58 | jskcr | hmm I have to change PasswordAuthentication to yes on my sshd to get it to login cc |
| 15:33.27 | koen | that should still encrypt the passwords |
| 15:33.37 | jskcr | ohh okay my mistake :) |
| 15:33.48 | [cc]smart | yes. that means you can use the method of verifying your identity by the method of password verification, but that doesn't transmit your password plaintext. |
| 15:34.05 | koen | "openTelnet" |
| 15:34.38 | jskcr | okay its tunneled clear text passwords |
| 15:35.32 | koen | pb_: we have some room to spare on h3900 images, how about including gpe-nmf and/or vlc? |
| 15:35.42 | [cc]smart | that would be a possibility, but i'd even expect it to just transmit a hash encrypted :) |
| 15:36.00 | pb_ | koen: if they'll fit, go ahead |
| 15:36.11 | pb_ | iirc, gpe-nmf and its dependency chain is quite large. |
| 15:36.33 | koen | I have gpe-nmf + vlc + mplayer + gpsdrive on my h3900 and 2.6 mb left :) |
| 15:36.40 | koen | yeah, gpe-nmf is 2.6 MB |
| 15:36.51 | koen | or 2.4MB |
| 15:37.13 | koen | I'll see if I can wedge in vlc |
| 15:37.31 | koen | simpad has 32mb too, right? |
| 15:37.53 | pb_ | no, simpad has 24MB-ish. |
| 15:37.58 | koen | hmmm |
| 15:38.04 | pb_ | about the same as shepherd |
| 15:38.08 | koen | just like the clamshells |
| 15:38.12 | koen | heh |
| 15:38.41 | pb_ | simpad probably has slightly more, but only by a few kilobytes. |
| 15:40.07 | koen | GPE_EXTRA_DEPENDS_h3900 = "vlc-gpe" ? |
| 15:41.17 | pb_ | mm. be careful with that, you might clobber the GPE_EXTRA_DEPENDS_smallscreen override. |
| 15:41.30 | koen | I was affraid that would happen |
| 15:41.59 | koen | I'll experiment with it after 0.8.2 |
| 15:42.11 | pb_ | ah, no, GPE_EXTRA_DEPENDS_smallscreen isn't actually an override. |
| 15:42.14 | pb_ | so, it ought to be safe. |
| 15:43.30 | koen | when it works, I'll push the change |
| 15:43.36 | pb_ | ok, very good |
| 15:44.00 | koen | It has to grind through h3600-opie first |
| 15:44.38 | koen | Which should be finished after the dessert |
| 15:46.41 | CIA-3 | 03pb 07 * r1.3200 10openembedded/packages/gcc/gcc_csl-arm.bb: add missing "date=${CVSDATE}" to SRC_URI |
| 15:49.51 | jskcr | koen ya have any idea what would cause screen.h:128: error: field `m_ttyb' has incomplete type |
| 15:56.28 | gremlin[it] | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 15:56.40 | gremlin[it] | Can't load module XML::Parser::Expat, dynamic loading not available in this perl. |
| 15:56.41 | gremlin[it] | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.41 | gremlin[it] | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.59 | pb_ | sounds like dynamic loading is not available in your perl. |
| 15:57.06 | gremlin[it] | yep |
| 15:57.18 | gremlin[it] | but my perls should be the standard oe one ... |
| 15:57.19 | pb_ | I recommend you build a new perl executable which either supports dynamic loading, or has the XML::Parser::Expat module statically linked into it. |
| 15:57.46 | gremlin[it] | pb_ .. u seem to be replaced by an easter bot ;) |
| 15:57.47 | pb_ | It's quite likely that the standard oe perl is busted. |
| 15:57.55 | pb_ | Nobody really uses it for much. |
| 15:58.05 | gremlin[it] | gnome-themes need it ... |
| 15:58.10 | gremlin[it] | ;( |
| 15:58.27 | pb_ | ah, hm. Then I guess it must have worked in the past. |
| 15:58.29 | pb_ | odd. |
| 15:58.44 | gremlin[it] | yep yep ... |
| 16:08.54 | gremlin[it] | some packaged (as ppp perl ) don't compile just cause some -lpthread or -lm options are missing in LDFLAGS info MAkefile ... quite strange ... |
| 16:09.13 | gremlin[it] | LDFLAGS into Makefile |
| 16:09.52 | gremlin[it] | i don't understand if packeges are wrong or if configure stage fail to find libraries :( |
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| 16:16.20 | gremlin[it] | grrr seem to not work . .i change config.h and rebuild perl but all time came error :( :( |
| 16:19.53 | gremlin[it] | grrrrr gnome-themes start to make me crazy !!!! |
| 16:30.15 | gremlin[it] | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 16:36.29 | [cc]smart | where would one report issues hit bitbakin OE packages ? |
| 16:36.38 | [cc]smart | is there a bug tracker ' |
| 16:36.49 | [cc]smart | heh |
| 16:36.52 | [cc]smart | forget question |
| 16:37.18 | [cc]smart | except if topic is not accountable |
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| 17:45.37 | uv1 | What is the easiest way to build opie-image with 2.95.3 cross-compiler. I need that as a pretest for a new platform. |
| 17:46.03 | mickeyl | i don't think anyone ever did that |
| 17:46.10 | mickeyl | but you may try |
| 17:46.15 | mickeyl | set DISTRO=sharprom-compatible |
| 17:46.35 | uv1 | mickeyl: Thanks, will try that. |
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| 17:53.48 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3201 10openembedded/packages/opie-i18n/opie-i18n_1.2.0.bb: reintroduce TAG in opie-i18n |
| 17:55.38 | Bernardo | ~seen bluelightning |
| 17:55.53 | ibot | bluelightning <~bluelight@203-173-244-2.akl.ihugultra.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 3h 42m 28s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 18:00.24 | Ken|JLime | ~seen bernardo |
| 18:00.25 | ibot | bernardo is currently on #oe. Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 4m 47s |
| 18:01.40 | Bernardo | :) |
| 18:02.12 | mickeyl | very good |
| 18:02.14 | mickeyl | *crossing fingers* |
| 18:04.03 | Bernardo | brb - daughter crying |
| 18:04.54 | Bernardo | fixing qpegps is somewhat "easy" - find to what the sentence "SPAVHBDX" should be changed, and then fix the parsing... |
| 18:05.32 | Bernardo | so all I need is the sources to gpsd 2.4 (that one worked, right?) and check the diffs in the documentation |
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| 18:56.17 | gremlin[it] | good evening ;) |
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| 19:08.04 | koen | treke|home: what did you do? |
| 19:08.15 | gremlin[it] | what happen treke ? |
| 19:08.17 | treke|home | I couldnt remember the task name for wiping downloads :p |
| 19:08.43 | _law_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.53 | koen | read the topic |
| 19:09.02 | koen | 3rd item |
| 19:09.34 | koen | (and check /dev/bluetooth) |
| 19:10.00 | _law_ | koen, there is no /dev/bluetooth |
| 19:10.16 | treke|home | then refer to his first answer |
| 19:14.27 | treke|home | finally |
| 19:14.39 | treke|home | linux-oz hasn't been building for a week |
| 19:14.45 | treke|home | just needed to mrproper the kernel :p |
| 19:14.49 | koen | D'oh |
| 19:15.15 | treke|home | it would have been painfully obvious if I actually took the time to read the error message before today |
| 19:16.13 | koen | nobody reads those, so don't feel bad |
| 19:16.40 | treke|home | hehe |
| 19:17.07 | treke|home | I just kept going "bah, I'll deal with it tomorrow" |
| 19:17.12 | treke|home | and then repeated the next day |
| 19:17.32 | koen | sounds like my report which has been due for a few weeks |
| 19:23.16 | koen | bleh |
| 19:23.23 | koen | I shouldn't have eaten this much |
| 19:24.21 | koen | ~lart easter |
| 19:26.59 | gremlin[it] | hahah |
| 19:50.13 | koen | treke|home: I did more on my report in the last 10 minutes than the last weeks |
| 20:12.55 | gremlin[it] | grrr i'm really becoming crazy !!!! |
| 20:13.24 | gremlin[it] | 1) who is responsible of gnome-themes have to explain me why it need perl-native |
| 20:14.02 | gremlin[it] | 2) if really is a necessity it have to test that perl is correctly compiled !!! :( |
| 20:14.14 | koen | there is a bk commend to check that |
| 20:14.20 | koen | command* |
| 20:14.31 | koen | bk author or something like that |
| 20:15.18 | gremlin[it] | koen ... perl-native is build wiout dynamic library support ... but xML::Parser is also build ... but cannot be used :( :( grrrr |
| 20:15.25 | gremlin[it] | thank koen |
| 20:16.14 | koen | otherwise check http://oe-devel.bkbits.net that has a annotation mode for files in the repo |
| 20:20.11 | treke|home | koen: ha |
| 20:21.38 | koen | if anyone waves a stack of papers in front of you containing vector math in IDL, say no when they want it in java |
| 20:22.26 | koen | especially when the original formulas are gone |
| 20:24.05 | koen | (say no to java in general) |
| 20:26.07 | treke|home | unless it's 2am and you're still working on your paper |
| 20:26.10 | treke|home | then it's your best friend |
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| 20:34.49 | gremlin[it] | strange last change in perl-native.bb is of 4 months ago and by kergoth ... |
| 20:36.32 | gremlin[it] | mistake ... 19days and a fresh new file !!! ;( |
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| 20:41.44 | treke|home | _law_: Bug reports should go to the bug tracker and not the mailing lists. |
| 20:41.48 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:41.50 | gremlin[it] | Hi Pigi |
| 20:41.59 | gremlin[it] | buona pasqua Pigi |
| 20:42.48 | Pigi | you too gremlin[it] |
| 20:43.22 | gremlin[it] | mhh in package/perl there is also 'files' dir with config.sh file for some architecture ... arm mipsel i686 ... why not x86_64 ??? and how such files are used ? |
| 20:43.59 | treke|home | gremlin[it]: most likely no one has ever bothered trying to build for x86_64 |
| 20:44.17 | _law_ | treke, can you send me the url? |
| 20:44.20 | gremlin[it] | ok i'm the first one ;) |
| 20:44.23 | treke|home | read the topic. |
| 20:44.51 | emte | does oe even build for 64 yet? |
| 20:45.12 | _law_ | treke, thanks ;-) |
| 20:45.14 | treke|home | emte: most of it should build fine |
| 20:45.38 | emte | then the bit length problem is fixed? |
| 20:45.42 | gremlin[it] | emte is my (new) host machine .. but building perl-native probably have some influence |
| 20:45.43 | treke|home | emte: Probably just need to populate the site files |
| 20:46.00 | treke|home | emte: I have no clue what specific problems have been fixed or not fixed. |
| 20:46.55 | _law_ | treke, i dont have any username or pwd :-( |
| 20:46.58 | emte | not that its important to me ... need to figure out why my compiler cant create exicuitables again ... |
| 20:47.25 | treke|home | _law_: Read the topic. |
| 20:47.28 | pb_ | _law_: other than the ones in the topic, right? |
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| 20:57.07 | gremlin[it] | ahhhhh |
| 20:57.28 | gremlin[it] | no way to understand how perl is build !!! :( |
| 20:57.35 | kergoth | ~perl's buildsystem |
| 20:57.36 | ibot | hmm... perl's buildsystem is the devil! |
| 20:57.45 | gremlin[it] | yea! |
| 20:57.46 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 20:57.46 | ibot | thanks, kergoth |
| 20:58.00 | gremlin[it] | hi kergoth !!! |
| 20:58.10 | pb_ | heh |
| 20:58.11 | gremlin[it] | can i ask u something ? |
| 20:58.20 | gremlin[it] | <<< kergoth |
| 20:58.30 | kergoth | you can ask, but i wont guarantee an answer |
| 20:58.32 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:58.37 | gremlin[it] | ok :) |
| 20:58.53 | kergoth | damn smoke alarm needs to stop beeping. its really annoying |
| 20:59.08 | pb_ | have you considered putting out the fire? |
| 20:59.13 | gremlin[it] | first of all ... who use package/perl/files/* |
| 20:59.51 | kergoth | 'files' is one directory of many traversed by the fetch code when looking for file:// items from SRC_URI. |
| 21:00.27 | kergoth | pb_: hehe. its not -going off-, its a quieter, once a minute or so, "you fucker, replace my battery" type beep. |
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| 21:01.37 | gremlin[it] | in such dir there is some patch files and and config.sh files for various arch ... but in .bb isn't used |
| 21:01.47 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:01.52 | pb_ | kergoth: oh, heh, right. |
| 21:01.54 | kergoth | 15:59 < kergoth> 'files' is one directory of many traversed by the fetch code when looking for file:// items |
| 21:01.58 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.04 | kergoth | those file:// urls in SRC_URI will be found there. |
| 21:02.08 | kergoth | so yes, they are used. |
| 21:02.46 | gremlin[it] | in perl-native i have only >> SRC_URI = "http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/CPAN/src/perl-${PV}.tar.gz" << |
| 21:02.54 | gremlin[it] | so no patch are applied ... |
| 21:03.09 | kergoth | thats because those things in files arent for native. they're things to make it crosscompile. |
| 21:03.29 | gremlin[it] | yea .. in fact perl use them ... |
| 21:03.34 | gremlin[it] | ufffff |
| 21:03.36 | kergoth | right |
| 21:04.00 | gremlin[it] | summary : at now seem perl-native is build w/o support for dynamic library ... |
| 21:04.21 | gremlin[it] | so XML::Parser cannot be user in perl :( |
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| 21:05.40 | Pigi | kergoth, there ? |
| 21:06.39 | kergoth | gremlin[it]: so the question is, why does perl think your buildsystem isnt able to support dynamic libraries. sounds like a problem with your build environment, or perl's buildsystem, or both. |
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| 21:07.32 | gremlin[it] | kergoth at now i'm trying to build a normal (without changes) gpe-image familiar for h3600 ipaq :( |
| 21:07.32 | Pigi | kergoth, I would like to import the path patch in CVS, but I don't understand well what you did. Do you mind to talk a bit about this ? |
| 21:08.08 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:08.12 | emte | tell it to use cvs :) |
| 21:08.27 | kergoth | you already made the change in cvs to make ipkg obey our libdir |
| 21:08.34 | kergoth | i dont see why you would neeed that patch |
| 21:09.03 | Pigi | so, why the patch is yet in oe actually, for 0.99.144 ? |
| 21:09.37 | kergoth | was your fix in .144? |
| 21:09.43 | kergoth | or just cvs after the 144 release? |
| 21:09.57 | Pigi | let me see ChangeLog :) |
| 21:10.23 | kergoth | it would make sense for us to try to fix it locally if it wasnt fixed at that point. but really, we probably dont need to keep .144 around at all. |
| 21:10.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:10.41 | kergoth | that patch wasnt a correct fix anyway |
| 21:11.11 | Pigi | the fix __was__ in 0.99.144 so. if it is broken I would fix it again :) |
| 21:11.18 | kergoth | hmm, k |
| 21:11.21 | W8TVI | kergoth: I finaly got DSL |
| 21:11.22 | kergoth | i'll check it out |
| 21:11.29 | kergoth | not sure whats up with that |
| 21:12.04 | Pigi | moreover, in 0.99.145 there is the md5 check for configuration files, as per koen and pb_ ( let me say, popular ) request :) |
| 21:12.27 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 21:12.29 | kergoth | very good |
| 21:12.33 | Pigi | so if we could pack all this in oe I can close some more bug in my buglist :) |
| 21:13.12 | Pigi | hey koen ! |
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| 21:14.49 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 21:15.22 | koen | 0.99.145 should also stop opie-pm from getting OOM'ed |
| 21:15.41 | Pigi | OOM'ed ? |
| 21:16.00 | koen | Out of Memory killed |
| 21:16.34 | Pigi | eheheehe. Really ? what was the problem ? Maybe the bug #1301 ? |
| 21:17.06 | koen | according to my sources it was a memleak in libipkg |
| 21:18.11 | Pigi | that should be in 143. |
| 21:24.12 | Pigi | mickeyl, there ? |
| 21:27.52 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, what u mean with "build system" |
| 21:28.38 | koen | gremlin[it]: your distro/OS/environment |
| 21:28.50 | koen | of your host |
| 21:29.16 | gremlin[it] | Fedora Core 3/Linux ... on a athlon64 so x86_64 arch ... |
| 21:29.55 | gremlin[it] | updated with Fedora updates ... some extra libs mainly for multimedia |
| 21:30.43 | Pigi | pb_ for the bug #1304, a GPL V2 COPYING file is ok ? |
| 21:36.29 | HCl | any news on oz 3.5.3? |
| 21:38.06 | gremlin[it] | ~perl |
| 21:38.07 | ibot | [perl] at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Perl or at http://www.perl.com, or a knitting stitch, or the Pathologically Eclectic rubbish Lister, or that other "P" language |
| 21:39.50 | drw | Pigi, koen: memory leaks fixed in 0.99.145? |
| 21:41.17 | Pigi | drw, I have some memleak fixed in 0.99.143, and some spurious error in 144 |
| 21:41.34 | Pigi | ( some problems with path for lists dir ) |
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| 21:42.42 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:43.36 | drw | Pigi: ah, ok. I have noticed 143 is much better...good work! |
| 21:44.11 | Pigi | happy to help :) |
| 21:45.43 | sgm | hi guys! |
| 21:45.51 | sgm | somebody having this too: cvs [update aborted]: connect to pdx.freedesktop.org(131.252.208.82):2401 failed: Connection refused |
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| 22:40.00 | Pigi | time to sleep |
| 22:40.02 | Pigi | nite all |
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