| 00:27.21 | kergoth | ugh |
| 00:27.27 | kergoth | damn kernel_key_t failure |
| 00:27.37 | kergoth | same one that bit the opie wireless stuff, just bit samba |
| 00:27.45 | kergoth | andersee: you built samba for uclibc before? |
| 00:27.46 | kergoth | heh |
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| 00:41.33 | kergoth | yeah, samba pulls in all the smb fs headers out of linux/, which blows up badly |
| 00:41.47 | kergoth | wonder if we can tweak the linux-libc-headers we're using to sanitize them for use here |
| 00:44.40 | CosmicPenguin | I hate that |
| 00:45.01 | kergoth | it at least builds under glibc, but thats more a lucky accident than anything else. |
| 00:45.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:52.29 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... |
| 00:52.45 | CosmicPenguin | Java sucks |
| 00:54.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:54.41 | kergoth | yay, finally have tslib cvs access |
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| 01:01.17 | andersee | kergoth: a long time ago... |
| 01:03.32 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, so jikes can't read the jars |
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| 01:09.30 | kergoth | hey Speedy2 |
| 01:10.02 | Speedy2 | Hi kergoth |
| 01:10.15 | kergoth | hows life? |
| 01:12.13 | Speedy2 | Meh. OK. You? |
| 01:14.46 | kergoth | Speedy2: heh, same. bored off my ass at ti, boss is tired of my low productivity.. job hunting. |
| 01:14.49 | kergoth | heh |
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| 01:16.13 | keturn | I build samba under uclibc, although I'm rather liberal with the --disable-foo options. |
| 01:16.30 | kergoth | i'm getting failures in smbmount/smbmnt/smbumount |
| 01:17.48 | keturn | probably why I added --without-smbmount, I imagine. |
| 01:18.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:19.06 | keturn | "doesn't build? Oh, did I really need that part? No? Okay. Bye." |
| 01:19.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:19.39 | emte | fkn ell |
| 01:19.50 | emte | anyone actually use ubuntu for compiling? |
| 01:20.10 | kergoth | i dont, but its essentially debian. no reason it shouldnt work |
| 01:20.25 | emte | cant get the tools to link |
| 01:20.43 | emte | they are all installed but configure cant find em |
| 01:21.01 | kergoth | sounds like you didnt install the -dev packages for things |
| 01:21.28 | emte | sec i'll check but i am pretty sure i did |
| 01:22.13 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 01:22.30 | emte | night |
| 01:24.30 | emte | hard to say |
| 01:24.38 | emte | none of the devel packages are listed |
| 01:25.25 | emte | there i added the universe to it :P |
| 01:25.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:27.57 | emte | hmm |
| 01:28.07 | emte | donest list any -devel specific |
| 01:28.41 | emte | damnit |
| 01:28.55 | emte | i just need a working distro ... |
| 01:29.08 | emte | maybe i'll just try and find my slack 9 disc |
| 01:29.10 | Speedy2 | Welcome to the world of Linux |
| 01:29.26 | emte | welcome? |
| 01:29.31 | Speedy2 | heh |
| 01:29.34 | kergoth | sudo apt-get install auto-apt |
| 01:29.36 | kergoth | sudo auto-apt update |
| 01:29.41 | emte | the incomeptence is a recent trend |
| 01:29.42 | kergoth | sudo auto-apt search whatever.h |
| 01:29.51 | kergoth | sudo apt-get install [packagename that provided it] |
| 01:30.46 | emte | its not headers its missing |
| 01:30.54 | emte | more or less the links into the system |
| 01:30.56 | kergoth | so? the same principle applies. |
| 01:31.02 | kergoth | auto-apt search /usr/lib/libblah.so |
| 01:31.03 | emte | cant even detect that it has gcc |
| 01:31.08 | kergoth | read config.log |
| 01:31.12 | kergoth | look at the _exact_ error message |
| 01:32.03 | emte | ./configure: line 1: g++: command not found |
| 01:32.13 | emte | but it does exist |
| 01:32.13 | kergoth | g++ is not gcc. |
| 01:32.24 | kergoth | sudo apt-get install g++ |
| 01:32.31 | emte | has one for gcc as well, i only found g++ faster |
| 01:33.27 | kergoth | and you can run them from teh commandline? |
| 01:33.30 | kergoth | type 'gcc' |
| 01:34.21 | emte | yup |
| 01:35.07 | kergoth | your system is fucked. |
| 01:35.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:35.27 | kergoth | is configure mangling PATH? |
| 01:36.10 | emte | shouldnt be |
| 01:36.21 | emte | sylpheed hasnt ever caused a problem before |
| 01:37.02 | emte | well maybe i'll try deb |
| 01:37.15 | emte | being a major distro perhaps it will cooperate |
| 01:38.37 | emte | i guess this release wsa named "warty" for a reason |
| 01:40.18 | kergoth | i can install a dev env on my linode (linode.com) which is running hoary and test there if you want |
| 01:41.09 | emte | nah, i just need a fully working system to get igor's first build done and then its golden |
| 01:41.42 | emte | thmks anyway |
| 01:42.23 | kergoth | k |
| 01:42.24 | kergoth | np |
| 01:43.29 | emte | hmm |
| 01:43.42 | emte | at 7iso i dont think i'll get debian |
| 01:44.23 | emte | oo |
| 01:44.31 | emte | fount the netinstall instructions |
| 01:44.36 | emte | thats better |
| 01:44.59 | Ken|JLimeX | kergoth, any ideas about the sh3 problem? Im all out |
| 01:46.20 | kergoth | Ken|JLimeX: not really. only other thing i can think of is to start painstakingly comparing the crosstool setup to ours. |
| 01:48.03 | Ken|JLimeX | ouchi |
| 01:48.54 | _drak0_ | emte: you know about debian's beta installer right? it's much better then the normal way =) |
| 01:49.21 | emte | beta installer? nope just getting the xfs netinstall iso |
| 01:49.23 | Ken|JLimeX | kergoth, anyway of using the crosscompiler i already got (which i know works) |
| 01:49.55 | _drak0_ | emte: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ you should really consider trying this out... i've used it 1000 times and it's much nicer |
| 01:50.26 | _drak0_ | emte: this is going to the the installer if sarge ever gets released :D |
| 01:51.40 | emte | support xfs? |
| 01:52.21 | emte | doesnt really say anywhere |
| 01:52.34 | kergoth | Ken|JLimeX: yes, you can make oe use an external toolchain. |
| 01:52.50 | kergoth | Ken|JLimeX: you need to add a few things to ASSUME_PROVIDED (which is how you tell oe about things it doesnt need to try to build) |
| 01:53.43 | _drak0_ | emte: i don't see why it wouldn't... if you type 'linux26' at the boot prompt you get a 2.6 kernel which has xfs built in (if memory serves) |
| 01:54.20 | emte | will try |
| 01:54.23 | emte | thnks |
| 01:54.43 | _drak0_ | np - it makes life much easier =) |
| 01:54.56 | Ken|JLimeX | kergoth, you got the syntax for the assume_provided? |
| 01:55.05 | kergoth | Ken|JLimeX: its just a space seperated list of providers |
| 01:55.16 | emte | tho i bout the old one is dysfunctional in any way |
| 01:55.32 | kergoth | my site.conf for example add 'bison-native', 'flex-native', and 'coreutils-native' to it, because i know those packages have sane versions in my build machine |
| 01:55.37 | emte | maybe not as pretty i suppose |
| 01:56.24 | kergoth | to build with an external toolchain, you probably want to add virtual/libc, virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}/libc-initial virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc virutal/${TARGET_PREFIX}binutils virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-initial |
| 01:56.34 | kergoth | then make sure your external toolchain is in your PATH |
| 01:58.02 | kergoth | all the oe tslib patches are upstream now. |
| 01:58.05 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:59.17 | Ken|JLimeX | oki, thx gonna try it tommrow...take care :) |
| 01:59.23 | kergoth | k, ttyl |
| 02:03.16 | [g2] | kergoth how do you use the INITSCRIPT_NAME and INITSCRIPT_PARAMS to create more than one init script ? |
| 02:04.07 | kergoth | [g2]: i dont think the bbclass supports that yet. |
| 02:04.08 | kergoth | patches welcome |
| 02:05.07 | [g2] | ok THX |
| 02:06.15 | [g2] | I need to get one Beta out the door before I start taking on other projects :) |
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| 03:44.50 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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| 05:18.21 | [g2] | mickeyl, so what would you like for the newsletter about OpenSlug ? |
| 05:30.39 | treke|home | mickeyl hasn't been around recently |
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| 06:10.17 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3126 10openembedded/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/devices initscripts_1.0.bb): Unbork udev detection in the devices startup script. |
| 06:13.21 | kergoth | treke|home: heh, got a piercing tonight |
| 06:13.32 | treke|home | do I want to ask? |
| 06:13.43 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/self/chris5.jpg |
| 06:13.56 | treke|home | ok. could be worse |
| 06:14.19 | kergoth | i like it. now if i could only stop spilling my water on myself, thatd be good |
| 06:14.40 | treke|home | yeah. I had an interesting experience with that |
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| 06:14.51 | treke|home | a friend said he got a new piercing |
| 06:15.00 | treke|home | next thing you know he was about to drop his pants. |
| 06:15.05 | emte | lol |
| 06:15.06 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:15.35 | emte | maybe he figures he's got bigger equiptment |
| 06:17.14 | emte | well after selecting a shtld of packages debian is finally installed |
| 06:17.24 | emte | haskell was a bouns tho |
| 06:17.29 | emte | bonus* |
| 06:17.49 | emte | now i can install the waveform simulator i wanted to try |
| 06:18.44 | emte | i even installed lemon in anticipaton of kergoth's new revelation |
| 06:21.58 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3127 10openembedded/packages/udev/ (udev_054.bb udev-054/flags.patch): Add udev 054. |
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| 06:26.29 | emte | but i do have a slight problem with my mouse and one of my NICs ... |
| 06:29.26 | emte | suppose its a good thing my fibercard is a dual |
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| 08:16.00 | pb_ | hi all |
| 08:18.54 | kergoth | hey |
| 08:19.05 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
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| 09:55.23 | pb_ | re |
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| 11:07.52 | reenoo_ | morning |
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| 11:52.43 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.26 | reenoo_ | morning RP |
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| 12:19.10 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 12:19.23 | pb_ | re |
| 12:19.25 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 12:19.49 | RP | hi pb_ |
| 12:19.52 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 12:20.05 | woglinde | how is fosdem going? |
| 12:20.08 | reenoo_ | hey pb_ |
| 12:20.19 | pb_ | hi reenoo_ |
| 12:20.30 | pb_ | woglinde: pretty good, though not much has happened so far |
| 12:20.40 | pb_ | I'm in the embedded room at the moment. |
| 12:20.48 | RP | ah, that's why its quiet in here :) |
| 12:20.59 | pb_ | heh |
| 12:21.49 | pb_ | ibot, seen mickeyl? |
| 12:21.50 | ibot | mickeyl is currently on #zaurus #opie #oe #handhelds.org |
| 12:22.08 | pb_ | I guess mickey is here somewhere, but I have no idea what he looks like. |
| 12:23.04 | RP | I have no idea what any of you look like :) |
| 12:25.27 | Speedy2 | Hey pb_ |
| 12:25.51 | pb_ | Speedy2: g'day! |
| 12:26.02 | Speedy2 | How goes it? |
| 12:26.30 | pb_ | Good, good. I'm at FOSDEM in Brussels right now. |
| 12:26.43 | Speedy2 | Sacre bleu! |
| 12:27.04 | zecke | pb_: check www.vanille.de for a picture |
| 12:29.23 | RP | I was looking before. I couldn't find one though |
| 12:29.39 | reenoo_ | http://vanille.de/extras/pythonbuch/Mickey.png |
| 12:29.58 | reenoo_ | pretty low res though |
| 12:30.24 | zecke | pb_: use your RFID scanner, I'm sure he got a tag implemented |
| 12:30.45 | RP | I think that's the one he uses on the forums... |
| 12:30.56 | reenoo_ | RP: correc |
| 12:31.00 | reenoo_ | correct even |
| 12:31.45 | SirFred | RP: Hi |
| 12:31.54 | SirFred | RP: How is it going? |
| 12:31.57 | RP | Hi SirFred |
| 12:32.01 | pb_ | zecke: heh |
| 12:33.12 | RP | SirFred: ok, thanks. I've made a lot of progress with atilib |
| 12:33.12 | SirFred | RP: Great |
| 12:33.12 | RP | SirFred: How's things with you? |
| 12:33.12 | pb_ | I guess I should just say something bad about python and see who takes offence. |
| 12:33.12 | zecke | hehe |
| 12:33.12 | SirFred | RP: I'm stucked with draw lines. |
| 12:33.12 | SirFred | RP: Has very little time lately |
| 12:33.14 | SirFred | RP: I'm trying to draw lines of more than a pixel thick. |
| 12:33.44 | RP | SirFred: Does the w100 support that? |
| 12:33.45 | SirFred | RP: I supposed that perhaps playing with AtiCore_BrushType... But I only get 1 pixel thick lines and segmentation faults. |
| 12:33.53 | SirFred | RP: I don't know. :) |
| 12:34.07 | RP | It shouldn't segfault... |
| 12:34.23 | SirFred | RP: atilib likes to segfault. |
| 12:34.33 | SirFred | RP: Also with StretchBitBlt |
| 12:34.39 | SirFred | RP: A bad parameter and sigsegv. |
| 12:34.52 | RP | I've only had it do that when I've really messed things up... |
| 12:35.08 | RP | SirFred: Hopefully once I get somemore functions decoded, we can fix that |
| 12:35.23 | SirFred | RP: Sure. |
| 12:35.39 | SirFred | RP: So, you think w100 is not able to draw lines of more than 1 bit thick? |
| 12:36.00 | SirFred | RP: Perhaps I need to draw some lines. |
| 12:36.03 | RP | I have most of the init functions now and can see how it queues instructions in a ring buffer. Next are looking at what the graphics functions themselves do |
| 12:36.18 | RP | SirFred: I really don't know what its capable of |
| 12:36.19 | SirFred | RP: You're progressing really fast. |
| 12:36.30 | SirFred | RP: That's the worse, that nobody knows. |
| 12:36.44 | SirFred | RP: Perhaps looking at some driver for another ati card... |
| 12:36.59 | RP | I'm told some of the other ati cards are similar |
| 12:37.07 | SirFred | RP: Once you have some info about how the w100 is filling the queues, I would like to know. |
| 12:37.17 | SirFred | RP: Because I have a lot of information for the mach64, for example. |
| 12:37.37 | SirFred | RP: It would be great if we could find similarities on both cards. |
| 12:38.14 | SirFred | RP: Lately I'm really busy at work, very little time to work on this. |
| 12:38.20 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/map.c is my current work |
| 12:38.40 | SirFred | RP: I'm thinking that perhaps I should put somewhere my work. |
| 12:39.01 | RP | SirFred: I understand. I'll just continue to do what I'm doing and hopefully it will all make sense eventually :) |
| 12:39.06 | SirFred | RP: Before my hard disk starts thinking about resting forever. |
| 12:39.29 | RP | Having some backups out there wouldn't hurt. I'd hate for your work to get lost! |
| 12:39.34 | SirFred | RP: I have a sourceforge project, perhaps I should put my work on CVS. |
| 12:39.43 | SirFred | I'm very lazy for backups. |
| 12:40.11 | RP | If you have some webspace, throw a traball into it now and again? |
| 12:40.22 | SirFred | RP: Perhaps CVS is a better way. |
| 12:40.33 | RP | I am going to have to find somewhere for my work eventually... |
| 12:40.48 | RP | I'm nervous about the frimware in it though :-/ |
| 12:40.54 | SirFred | RP: Well, you could use my project if you wish. |
| 12:41.06 | SirFred | RP: But ATI could get angry, do you think so? |
| 12:41.21 | SirFred | RP: It's the zports.sf.net project. |
| 12:41.22 | RP | With my work, potentially, yes |
| 12:41.31 | SirFred | RP: And what about mine. |
| 12:41.47 | SirFred | RP: That library is supposed to be attached to the qte version in sharp rom. |
| 12:42.00 | RP | SirFred: No, I think you're safe. Its the microcode that is the dubious bit |
| 12:42.27 | SirFred | RP: Could the microcode be isolated from the main code? |
| 12:42.35 | RP | SirFred: yes |
| 12:42.42 | SirFred | RP: That could be an idea. |
| 12:42.46 | RP | but none of the acceleration will run without it |
| 12:43.43 | RP | I need to give it some thought. I'm not ready to release the code properly yet so I can put that off for a while yet :) |
| 12:44.22 | SirFred | RP: Split the microcode from your driver. Tell people how to extract the microcode. |
| 12:44.38 | SirFred | RP: Is that possible? |
| 12:44.51 | SirFred | RP: Extract the microcode from the sharp qte ? |
| 12:44.52 | RP | SirFred: Potentially, yes |
| 12:45.02 | SirFred | RP: Perhaps that's the way to go. |
| 12:45.13 | SirFred | RP: That's what people writing emulators do. |
| 12:45.20 | RP | SirFred: We'll see :) |
| 12:45.33 | SirFred | RP: Well, time to lunch here. |
| 12:45.36 | SirFred | RP: See you. |
| 12:45.55 | RP | SirFred: ok, bfn |
| 12:55.33 | CIA-8 | 03reenoo 07 * r1.3124.1.1 10openembedded/packages/dbus/dbus/tmpdir.patch: dbus: move tmpdir.patch to make it available to all dbus versions. |
| 12:59.04 | pb_ | reenoo_: thanks |
| 13:00.21 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.01 | reenoo_ | pb_: np. I added the patch a while ago. I also have a build of dbus_0.23-r1. like I said in #gpe... no clue why that's ever worked... |
| 13:02.13 | pb_ | very strange |
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| 13:05.20 | reenoo_ | pb_: I think we should mark the familiar bootstrap images as "unsupported. only use if you know what you're doing." btw |
| 13:06.22 | pb_ | reenoo_: why's that? |
| 13:06.41 | pb_ | I'm not sure they're significantly less supported than the gpe or opie images. |
| 13:07.08 | reenoo_ | all sorts of strange requests on the familiar list |
| 13:07.36 | RP | zecke: I was aware of it although I think I should perhaps be more careful... :-/ |
| 13:07.56 | reenoo_ | pb_: and there's no way to tell what people have installed on top of a bootstrap image |
| 13:08.49 | reenoo_ | pb_: could make that "not recommended for newbies" too |
| 13:09.26 | pb_ | reenoo_: I think the description does say "a screenless system for developers" or some such. |
| 13:11.16 | reenoo_ | pb_: hmm, right. the usual problem then. people don't read :/ |
| 13:12.22 | woglinde | reenoo so what? |
| 13:13.24 | reenoo_ | woglinde: ? |
| 13:13.50 | kiatoa | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.51 | woglinde | reenoo when they didnt read its there problem |
| 13:14.45 | woglinde | kiatoa??? is the ipg manager not enough? |
| 13:14.53 | woglinde | ipkg |
| 13:14.55 | reenoo_ | woglinde: I haven't questioned that |
| 13:16.32 | kiatoa | No, not what I mean. I mean to configure a base image. I.e. I'd like to make a base image for gpe with a select subset of initial packages. In truth I am happy to write my own -image.bb files. |
| 13:16.32 | reenoo_ | kiatoa: the comparison to the kernel's make menuconfig sounds kind of wrong though. you can still shoot yourself in the foot using it. i.e., build a kernel that won't work on your system. the same is true if you install ipks manually |
| 13:18.36 | reenoo_ | woglinde: ipkg doesn't solve the problem since not everything can be recorded as a dependency. for X apps you can chose whatever X server you like etc. |
| 13:18.48 | reenoo_ | s/chose/choose/ |
| 13:18.53 | kiatoa | reenoo_: I agree. My comment is a sad reflection of how unsucessful I have been in building gpe-image and rolling my own image (I want ruby+gtk and almost nothing else). |
| 13:18.56 | woglinde | renoo sorry I meant the graphical ipkg manger from opie |
| 13:19.21 | reenoo_ | woglinde: same problem there |
| 13:21.33 | reenoo_ | woglinde: there are functional depencies (i.e. "feature xyz doesn't work") that can't be expressed as an RDEPENDS. i.e. it's not a dependency but users might want it which makes it a distro/image decision |
| 13:28.08 | reenoo_ | kiatoa: you'll probably want an X server, possibly gpe-login, and matchbox then |
| 13:28.25 | reenoo_ | kiatoa: and rxvt |
| 13:28.32 | reenoo_ | rxvt-unicode even |
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| 13:28.55 | reenoo_ | pb_: wb |
| 13:29.30 | reenoo_ | pb_: the network appears to be as flaky as last year ;) |
| 13:29.45 | reenoo_ | (at fosdem) |
| 13:30.04 | kiatoa | reenoo_: I was attempting to start with gpe-image and then trim back. |
| 13:30.42 | pb_ | reenoo_: heh |
| 13:30.50 | pb_ | it's not quite that bad, but certainly not the best |
| 13:31.02 | reenoo_ | pb_: hehe |
| 13:32.38 | reenoo_ | speaking of RDEPENDS... |
| 13:32.58 | reenoo_ | pb_: what should be in for gpe-nmf? enough for mp3 playback? |
| 13:33.18 | reenoo_ | s/what/which gst plugins/ |
| 13:33.48 | pb_ | yeah |
| 13:33.52 | pb_ | mp3 and ogg, I guess |
| 13:34.08 | reenoo_ | well.. I havn't got ogg to work, I'm afraid |
| 13:34.10 | pb_ | ah |
| 13:34.19 | pb_ | well, put in the plugins you know about anyway |
| 13:34.26 | reenoo_ | ok, will do |
| 13:34.57 | reenoo_ | brb |
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| 13:59.50 | CIA-8 | 03koen 07 * r1.3131 10openembedded/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions.inc: |
| 13:59.50 | CIA-8 | preferred-gpe-versions.inc: |
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| 15:32.10 | RP | morning kergoth |
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| 15:34.39 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 15:37.01 | gremlin[it] | question : how long since last 'change' in oe ? i try 'bk pull' (after 2 days) and "Nothing to pull." ... strange ... |
| 15:37.54 | kergoth | gremlin[it]: heh, my desktop is out of commission |
| 15:38.13 | kergoth | my desktop is the box that did the sync from oe-devel to openembedded |
| 15:38.21 | kergoth | try doing 'bk pull http://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded' |
| 15:38.25 | kergoth | instead of just bk pull |
| 15:38.56 | gremlin[it] | thanks kergoth :) |
| 15:39.00 | kergoth | np |
| 15:39.12 | kergoth | i'll get a cron job setup on a different machine |
| 15:42.57 | gremlin[it] | yep .. got 47 Deltas ;) ... |
| 15:43.11 | kergoth | :) |
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| 16:27.28 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3112.2.1 10openembedded/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update the tslib build now that our patches are upstream. |
| 16:36.17 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:36.46 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 16:37.32 | woglinde | he kergoth |
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| 17:14.34 | emte | whee |
| 17:14.44 | emte | got ghdl to cooperate :) |
| 17:14.59 | emte | now i just need to make a texmacs and anjuta plugin |
| 17:15.10 | emte | vhdl ho! |
| 17:15.26 | emte | hmm |
| 17:15.34 | emte | and i need to compile the envy tools |
| 17:15.42 | emte | seems debian doesnt have em |
| 17:19.55 | woglinde | what are the envy tools? |
| 17:23.22 | emte | my audiophile card has an envy chipset |
| 17:23.32 | emte | 8 channle digital output |
| 17:23.36 | emte | channel* |
| 17:23.52 | emte | the tools are to control the chipset |
| 17:24.07 | woglinde | ah I see |
| 17:24.45 | woglinde | I guess no one usess this card and debian |
| 17:24.53 | emte | i think it goes back to full digital if i reboot my system and most apps prefer pcm |
| 17:25.09 | emte | they arnt that old of a card |
| 17:25.46 | emte | most users dont have a need for rca outs and the extra channels, etc |
| 17:26.02 | woglinde | yes this count too |
| 17:26.20 | emte | extremly nice card tho |
| 17:26.34 | woglinde | do oyu have a link? |
| 17:26.34 | emte | made by m-audio |
| 17:26.46 | emte | picked mine up at a huge savings |
| 17:26.50 | emte | sec |
| 17:27.37 | woglinde | re reenoo |
| 17:28.29 | emte | http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_ca/Audiophile2496-main.html |
| 17:28.33 | reenoo_ | re all |
| 17:28.38 | emte | hmm they have a new one out now .. |
| 17:28.53 | emte | anyway i payed 125 cnd for mine |
| 17:29.07 | emte | almost a year ago |
| 17:29.27 | woglinde | emte you make music? |
| 17:30.43 | emte | not currently |
| 17:30.54 | emte | havent had time generally |
| 17:31.27 | emte | bought the card mostly for the digital outs and the rca |
| 17:31.44 | woglinde | :) |
| 17:31.56 | emte | was still cheaper than the overpriced audigy2 |
| 17:32.54 | emte | kinda hoping to see a pci-x audiophile for when i buy some new hw |
| 17:34.54 | emte | have an audio power amp project that cant hurt to add to my system :P |
| 17:35.04 | emte | for school |
| 17:35.20 | woglinde | okay we need too shop for food |
| 17:35.38 | woglinde | otherwise my girlfriend get angry |
| 17:36.04 | emte | take her out for lunh first |
| 17:36.08 | emte | lunch |
| 17:36.21 | emte | :) |
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| 18:45.47 | zecke|study | ~lart kdepimpi |
| 18:46.24 | XorA | evening |
| 18:48.31 | treke|home | hey zecke |
| 18:48.53 | treke|home | zecke|study: gonna give libvncclient a shot with keypebble :) |
| 18:49.08 | treke|home | looks really cool |
| 18:51.33 | zecke|study | yes it does |
| 18:51.48 | zecke|study | actually I've looked at libvncserver |
| 18:54.07 | treke|home | vnc's just a mess these days |
| 18:54.18 | treke|home | between realvnc and tightvnc |
| 18:55.28 | zecke|study | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.45 | zecke|study | with rdp, vnc, tarantella, nx... |
| 18:55.55 | treke|home | yeah |
| 18:56.23 | zecke|study | I might have the chanche to work on it ;) |
| 18:56.24 | treke|home | I need to check with mickey. I know he did some work on that for opie-rdesktop. |
| 18:56.35 | treke|home | if that's the case, it might be smarter for me to try and do it there and let keypebble die |
| 18:58.36 | treke|home | I've been playing with NX lately, and it's really really cool |
| 18:59.19 | zecke|study | yupp |
| 18:59.28 | treke|home | have the server running on my desktop and use the client when at our other campuses |
| 18:59.30 | zecke|study | parking the session jut rocks |
| 18:59.39 | treke|home | very close to local speed over a t1 |
| 19:01.13 | XorA | zecke|study: am i right in thinkwhen you disconect from nx session all apps are frozen until re-connect? |
| 19:06.14 | treke|home | XorA: I think it keeps running |
| 19:06.29 | zecke|study | XorA: they keep running on the server |
| 19:06.44 | zecke|study | but they can easily be swapped out |
| 19:07.06 | XorA | zecke|study: ooh, so i can run my p2p on nx, sweet,ill give itanothertry |
| 19:07.13 | XorA | bloody space bar |
| 19:15.58 | zecke|study | XorA: and the greatest thing on NX Technology, everything is GPL or GPL compatible |
| 19:18.26 | kergoth | treke|home: fyi |
| 19:18.46 | kergoth | treke|home: your license add to zlib inadvertantly removed my changes from delta 1.7 |
| 19:18.46 | XorA | eep surprise visitor |
| 19:18.58 | kergoth | -SRC_URI = "http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/src/zlib-${PV}.tar.gz \ |
| 19:18.59 | kergoth | - file://visibility.patch;patch=1" |
| 19:18.59 | kergoth | +SRC_URI = "http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/src/zlib-${PV}.tar.gz " |
| 19:19.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:19.58 | kergoth | couldve been a bk automerge screwup |
| 19:20.48 | zecke|study | damn kde pimp source... |
| 19:20.58 | kergoth | zecke|study: externally visible symbols show up as what in 'nm'? T? |
| 19:21.15 | zecke|study | I would say T as well |
| 19:21.47 | kergoth | ah, yeah, T is global, t is local |
| 19:21.52 | zecke|study | T" The symbol is in the text (code) section. |
| 19:21.54 | kergoth | (thats the meaning of case in nm in general) |
| 19:24.44 | treke|home | kergoth: oops |
| 19:25.05 | treke|home | I think that was actually something that snuck in because visibility was breaking zlib in some way. |
| 19:25.20 | treke|home | and then I accidentally commited it |
| 19:26.09 | kergoth | ahh |
| 19:26.12 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 19:26.21 | kergoth | np |
| 19:26.28 | kergoth | doing image builds for the Z with visibility on |
| 19:26.38 | treke|home | cool |
| 19:26.47 | woglinde | hm |
| 19:27.03 | woglinde | I think I should read something about this |
| 19:28.41 | zecke|study | ~google visibility gcc |
| 19:28.55 | zecke|study | ~google visibility gcc backport |
| 19:29.04 | zecke|study | hmm |
| 19:29.13 | woglinde | hihihihi |
| 19:29.21 | kergoth | zecke|study: the nedprod visibility site is gone |
| 19:29.28 | kergoth | zecke|study: i think he forgot to pay his domain name fees :) |
| 19:29.41 | zecke|study | hehe |
| 19:29.48 | woglinde | no mirror? |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | dunno, shoudl try to find one |
| 19:30.00 | woglinde | hm webarchive |
| 19:30.03 | kergoth | google didnt have it cached |
| 19:30.11 | kergoth | yeah, that might be a good route if its in the archive |
| 19:30.26 | zecke|study | sadly it is not in googles cache |
| 19:30.29 | zecke|study | http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:IDh3_UcT0gQJ:www.nedprod.com/programs/gccvisibility.html+nedprod++gccvisibility&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 19:30.31 | woglinde | if someone had the url |
| 19:32.23 | zecke|study | woglinde: read dreppers paper on how to write dso's |
| 19:32.45 | zecke|study | dsos even, I need to visit the US soon... |
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| 19:33.29 | kergoth | i should pull my gcc visibility m4 macros into some oe packages. i already checked them into tslib cvs |
| 19:33.31 | woglinde | zecke why? |
| 19:34.46 | kergoth | bored |
| 19:35.11 | treke|home | kergoth: hide from a computer |
| 19:35.27 | Pend-Gone | you can't hide from computers, they are everywhere |
| 19:37.03 | CIA-8 | 03zecke 07 * r1.3133 10openembedded/packages/bluez-utils/ (files/hcid.conf bluez-utils-dbus/hcid.conf): |
| 19:37.03 | CIA-8 | BlueZ Builds: |
| 19:37.03 | CIA-8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.47 | zecke|study | woglinde: because he tells what happens when you change the visibility |
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| 19:49.56 | zecke|study | treke|home: what specially rocks is you can tunnel vnc and rdesktop through the nx protocol |
| 19:56.16 | zecke|study | back to the 'trees' |
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| 20:29.30 | zecke|study | Twiun: ping |
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| 21:30.50 | RP | kergoth: I thought that about the live cd. That would be cool :) |
| 21:32.34 | zecke|study | good nite |
| 21:32.57 | RP | 'night zecke|study |
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| 22:31.42 | keturn | Wow. That was a failure. |
| 22:32.29 | keturn | I tried to unapply packages.bb.cow9a.patch, but it didn't so much. |
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| 23:09.14 | [g2] | I'm getting ready for the OpenSlug Distro Release |
| 23:09.28 | [g2] | I'm getting ready for the OpenSlug Beta Distro Release |
| 23:10.02 | [g2] | I'd like to get a manifest of all the packages used during the full build in OE. |
| 23:10.40 | [g2] | I'd also like to get all verify all the source URIs and md5sums for the source data |
| 23:11.04 | [g2] | I'd like to check all the License types for the packages and finally |
| 23:11.51 | [g2] | roll it all up in a tarbarll (the metadata and possibly provided a backup for the source packages) |
| 23:12.25 | [g2] | and tags the release in OE if possbile. |
| 23:12.29 | CIA-8 | 03RP 07 * r1.3132 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (7 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus-2.6: Update to 2.6.11-rc5. Add multi scoop support to corgi, add common sharpsl_param driver, start to add support for non corgi pcmcia. |
| 23:13.09 | [g2] | Suggestions, comments on any/all of those items and the best practices for doing that stuff ? |
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| 23:18.58 | RP | [g2]: You want to talk to mickeyl. He's away at fosdem at the moment though. koen may also be able to help (he looks after familar if I remember rightly which I probably dont) |
| 23:27.58 | koen | [g2]: I usually tar up my DL_DIR and upload that after a world build |
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| 23:35.38 | CIA-8 | 03RP 07 * r1.3134 10openembedded/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.11-rc5.bb: openzaurus-2.6: fix tosa |
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| 23:51.21 | [g2] | thx guys. I'll talk to mickeyl |
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