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| 00:10.45 | _keith | kergoth? |
| 00:30.37 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
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| 08:43.20 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:29.36 | ade|desk | morning all |
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| 09:37.44 | XorA | morning |
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| 09:41.40 | pb_ | hi ade|desk |
| 09:50.41 | hrw|work | hi |
| 09:51.04 | XorA | hi hrw|work |
| 10:01.46 | hrw|work | ok. time to check kde 3.4be2 |
| 10:05.43 | hrw|work | looks nice |
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| 10:08.53 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 10:10.06 | Bernardo | anyone knows anything about the s101? http://www.road-gmbh.de/produkte/index_01.html |
| 10:11.00 | Bernardo | or (in english) http://www.road-gmbh.de/en/produkte/index_01.html |
| 10:11.22 | cedric_ | who is the busybox master in OE ??? |
| 10:13.51 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 10:14.01 | hrw|work | Bernardo: there was talks about it on ZUG and here |
| 10:14.48 | pb_ | cedric_: no one person. kergoth, mickeyl, or me. |
| 10:16.51 | Bernardo | hrw|work: ok, I was thinking it looks interesting, but can't find any mention of the price, etc. |
| 10:19.27 | cedric_ | pb_: I'm testing a poodle kernel 2.6 therefore I've build a 2.6 rootfs, all the link to ../bin/busybox are not taken in consideration so temporary I've re-linked them to /bin/busybox |
| 10:20.30 | cedric_ | and "id"/"["/"logger"/"test" were not symbolinked to busybox |
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| 11:01.01 | cozy_ | Bernardo: yeah, but as many /.-ers, seems to me like vaporware...and pricetag is about 1400 euro |
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| 11:04.44 | Bernardo | cozy_: I wonder where they got the price tag, I couldn't find it on the site |
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| 11:05.13 | Bernardo | anyway, I'm still waiting for the moto a780 to be launched in europe and to come down on price so that I can afford one |
| 11:05.25 | hedgehair | how can i build mplayer to not depend on libsdl-x11 but libsdl-qpe ? |
| 11:06.07 | XorA | hedgehair: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl = "libsdl-qpe" in local.conf |
| 11:06.32 | hedgehair | /etc/local.conf ? |
| 11:06.46 | XorA | hedgehair: conf/local.conf in your build dir |
| 11:06.50 | hedgehair | oh oh oh |
| 11:08.52 | hedgehair | there is no conf/local.conf, im using the 1.0pre6a sources |
| 11:09.02 | XorA | hedgehair: are you using oe? |
| 11:11.18 | hedgehair | yea i have bitbake installed |
| 11:13.06 | XorA | hedgehair: then in conf directory you made a local.conf file |
| 11:15.20 | hedgehair | oh, should that be mplayer_src/conf or mplayer_src/stuff/build/conf ? |
| 11:15.42 | XorA | hedgehair: no, in yor bitbake build root |
| 11:16.14 | XorA | you have <blah>/bitbake <blah>/openemebdded <blah>/build if you used GettingStarted document |
| 11:16.29 | XorA | <blah>/bluild/conf/local.cinf |
| 11:16.38 | hedgehair | yes |
| 11:16.39 | XorA | or the spelled right version of that |
| 11:17.49 | hedgehair | ok thanks, hopefully i can build a version of mplayer that works in opie |
| 11:18.40 | XorA | hedgehair: with that line it does |
| 11:19.03 | hedgehair | great, thanks |
| 11:19.23 | XorA | ooooh shiny new icons |
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| 11:37.17 | Rupert-Giles | :D |
| 11:37.24 | hrw|work | re |
| 11:37.27 | Rupert-Giles | lots of activity on #oe |
| 11:37.28 | Rupert-Giles | :) |
| 11:37.54 | XorA | hrw|work: is there any way to refresh the Documents view? |
| 11:39.53 | XorA | woo, mega snow outside |
| 11:40.29 | hrw|work | XorA: dont know |
| 11:40.46 | hrw|work | XorA: atleast I dont know any other then restart opie |
| 11:41.05 | XorA | hrw|work: hmmm, thats a pain, I quite like the view, but it needs to be dynamic |
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| 11:42.09 | gremlin[it] | morning !!! |
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| 12:13.07 | _keith | Anyone played with ssh-agent under opie? |
| 12:40.11 | XorA | ahah, new version of kismet |
| 12:48.21 | XorA | Does Bruno Randolf hang around on here? |
| 12:48.51 | hrw|work | XorA: br1? |
| 12:49.21 | XorA | ~seen br1 |
| 12:49.22 | ibot | br1 <~br1@pD956A2A3.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 61d 19h 46m 30s ago, saying: 'it's in package usbutils'. |
| 12:49.58 | XorA | I have new bb file for new version of kismet but dont want to step on current mauntainers toes if he is still active |
| 12:51.00 | hrw|work | mail him? |
| 12:51.49 | XorA | hrw|work: will do |
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| 13:09.00 | hrw|work | kdepimpi 2.0.9 compiling... |
| 13:10.12 | hrw|work | NOTE:[14:09] package kdepimpi-2.0.9-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 13:12.38 | CIA-8 | 03hrw 07 * r1.3073 10openembedded/packages/kdepimpi/kdepimpi_2.0.9.bb: kdepimpi upgraded to 2.0.9 |
| 13:16.01 | cedric_ | ~seen mickeyl |
| 13:16.03 | ibot | mickeyl <~LPA@141.2.14.1> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 23h 45m 52s ago, saying: 'then update your tree'. |
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| 13:26.25 | OSS542 | anyone notice that bitbake gpe-image wasn't working too well ? |
| 13:31.02 | hrw|work | define 'too well' |
| 13:31.06 | gremlin[it] | what's not working good ? |
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| 13:41.41 | reenoo | afternoon |
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| 13:42.42 | OSS542 | ah....it stops with an error....a file it was unable to retrieve |
| 13:44.06 | OSS542 | I'll have to go back and repeat the bitbake to find out which file it was |
| 13:44.18 | OSS542 | a patch file of some sort iirc |
| 13:45.18 | gremlin[it] | ok ; |
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| 13:45.46 | OSS542 | so bitbake gpe-image fails |
| 13:48.08 | gremlin[it] | usually not ... at least sarurday |
| 13:48.13 | gremlin[it] | saturday |
| 13:48.24 | OSS542 | it did today |
| 13:48.42 | gremlin[it] | if u give the error maybe i can help |
| 13:49.24 | OSS542 | theres a patch file or some such missing from one of the sites....I'd have to go back and repeat the bitbake |
| 13:49.55 | OSS542 | shall I give it another try ? |
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| 13:52.02 | OSS542 | rerunning it now |
| 13:53.44 | OSS542 | I also notice that the stock kernel supplied with Oz does not export wireless_send_event, which is needed for a good many drivers these days |
| 13:54.03 | OSS542 | so I am trying to build a new kernel which does this |
| 13:58.02 | XorA | OSS542: what drivers you trying to make work? |
| 13:59.55 | OSS542 | hostap |
| 14:00.19 | OSS542 | it requires wireless_send_event to be exported |
| 14:01.42 | OSS542 | the bitbake thing can't find portmap_5-4.diff.gz |
| 14:02.06 | OSS542 | It had the md5 though....I deleted that and I'm trying the bitbake again |
| 14:06.01 | OSS542 | bitbake is going to www.uk.debian.org and looking for portmap_5-4.diff.gz and it's not there anymore....bitbake ends up failing as a result |
| 14:07.11 | XorA | OSS542: hostap builds for OZ, its the standard network driver |
| 14:08.14 | OSS542 | XorA: it may build for it, but won't modprobe.....the needed symbol isn't exported, at least by the stock kernel packaged with OZ |
| 14:09.01 | XorA | OSS542: you working on tosa or spitz? |
| 14:09.25 | OSS542 | looks like when they built the distro, they built the kernel missing either CONFIG_NET_RADIO or CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA_RADIO |
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| 14:09.29 | Rupert-Giles | OZ working on c3000 yet :D |
| 14:09.30 | Rupert-Giles | heh |
| 14:09.51 | XorA | OSS542: hostap is supplied with 3.5.1 and 3.5.2 |
| 14:09.54 | OSS542 | trying to build the kernel via bitbake |
| 14:10.15 | OSS542 | XorA: yes, I know....but you can't modprobe it |
| 14:10.30 | XorA | OSS542: you can on corgi and collie |
| 14:10.35 | OSS542 | the wireless_send_event symbol isn't exported |
| 14:10.47 | OSS542 | and no, not on corgi....I just checked it |
| 14:10.52 | OSS542 | I have one |
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| 14:11.05 | XorA | OSS542: erm, I have run 3.5.1 3.5.2 and now 3.5.3-- with hostap |
| 14:11.32 | OSS542 | I just tried it...and I checked /proc/ksyms...it's not there |
| 14:11.43 | OSS542 | and modprobe won't accept the hostap driver |
| 14:12.13 | OSS542 | it's the stock 3.5.2 distro kernel.... |
| 14:12.37 | XorA | OSS542: I have used hostap on that straight out of the images |
| 14:12.39 | OSS542 | I'm not sure what happens if you bitbake it....the config file for corgi indicates that the export should work |
| 14:12.53 | XorA | OSS542: you sure your kernel flashed |
| 14:12.54 | OSS542 | and I just tried it....it won't fly |
| 14:13.03 | OSS542 | yes...it did |
| 14:13.15 | OSS542 | it works fine otherwise |
| 14:13.32 | OSS542 | and the NIC works with the orinoco driver |
| 14:14.02 | VoodooZ_log | ~RLB |
| 14:14.18 | OSS542 | modprobe says it can't find wireless_send_event, and /proc/ksyms confirms it isn't exported |
| 14:14.43 | XorA | OSS542: why are you modprobing anyway, cardmgr is supposed to load the modules |
| 14:15.11 | OSS542 | because cardmgr can't load the driver either, and for the same reason |
| 14:15.33 | XorA | OSS542: compare corgi defconfig with husky then |
| 14:15.34 | OSS542 | cardmgr I think ends up using insmod iirc, which also can't do it |
| 14:15.52 | hrw|work | re |
| 14:16.18 | OSS542 | the corgi config indicates that the necessary defines should be there, which makes me think the wrong kernel might be in the distro |
| 14:16.32 | OSS542 | it should require CONFIG_NET_RADIO or CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA_RADIO for the export |
| 14:16.44 | OSS542 | and CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS for the definition itself |
| 14:16.56 | OSS542 | and those are in the corgi config file |
| 14:17.07 | OSS542 | but the stock kernel does not export the symbol |
| 14:17.22 | OSS542 | which is the reason I tried to build a new one |
| 14:17.26 | OSS542 | a new image |
| 14:17.40 | hrw|work | OSS542: do us a favour: "uname -a" on your zaurus |
| 14:17.48 | OSS542 | just a sec |
| 14:18.36 | hrw|work | OSS542: and btw portmap problem.. we have portmap 5-7 in OE |
| 14:19.02 | hrw|work | root@collie:/media/cf/root# grep wireless_send_event /proc/ksyms |
| 14:19.02 | hrw|work | c012fba8 wireless_send_event |
| 14:19.13 | hrw|work | root@collie:/media/cf/root# uname -a |
| 14:19.13 | hrw|work | Linux collie 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix #1 Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:28:22 +0100 armv4l unknown |
| 14:22.35 | hrw|work | OSS542: |
| 14:22.46 | OSS542 | Linux shepherd 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix #1 Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13+54+24 +0900 armv5l unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
| 14:23.06 | OSS542 | hm.....interesting |
| 14:23.08 | XorA | OSS542: thats on an OZ kernel |
| 14:23.15 | XorA | thats not a |
| 14:23.19 | hrw|work | OSS542: you dont have OZ kernel |
| 14:23.34 | hrw|work | OSS542: OZ kernel was from 2004 |
| 14:23.34 | OSS542 | it's right from the Oz distro.... |
| 14:23.45 | hrw|work | OSS542: it IS NOT |
| 14:23.54 | OSS542 | unless the kernel somehow didn't flash |
| 14:24.02 | OSS542 | can't imagine how |
| 14:24.06 | hrw|work | OZ 3.5.1 was September 2004, OZ 3.5.2 was November 2004 |
| 14:24.06 | XorA | OSS542: what exact device do you have |
| 14:24.15 | OSS542 | SL-C700 |
| 14:24.25 | OSS542 | Sharp Zaurus SL-C700 |
| 14:26.19 | OSS542 | using gpe-image.rootfs.img and zimage.bin.C700 |
| 14:26.57 | OSS542 | the gpe-image.rootfs.img is 21413904 bytes |
| 14:27.10 | OSS542 | and the zimage.bin.C700 is 1109304 bytes |
| 14:27.16 | hrw|work | OSS542: ok - you have to flash oz kernel |
| 14:27.40 | OSS542 | where did I go wrong then ? |
| 14:27.57 | XorA | zimage.bin and initrd.bin ? |
| 14:28.30 | OSS542 | hm.....where did I pick up the one I got ? |
| 14:28.35 | OSS542 | the kernel I mean ? |
| 14:28.44 | XorA | OSS542: what did you run before OZ? |
| 14:28.54 | OSS542 | the stock sharp rom |
| 14:29.12 | XorA | OSS542: anyway, you can flash just a kernel and not lose your / |
| 14:29.27 | XorA | OSS542: just put updater.sh and zimage.bin on the card, leave out initrd.bin |
| 14:30.00 | OSS542 | I used gpe-iimage.rootfs.img and zimage.bin.C700 from the distro |
| 14:30.19 | OSS542 | I'll give this another shot though |
| 14:31.25 | OSS542 | is the zImage.bin.C700 ok to use ? |
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| 14:31.57 | hrw|work | OSS542: you have to rename it |
| 14:32.25 | OSS542 | yes....that's what I did before....is it possible that it just wasn't picked up for some reason ? |
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| 14:33.46 | OSS542 | in any case, I'll try this again |
| 14:34.13 | hrw|work | I dont know - I only have collie which has other flash procedure |
| 14:35.37 | OSS542 | hm....well, I very much appreciate your very kind assistance.....I'll back up everything and try just reflashing the kernel |
| 14:41.25 | OSS542 | here goes |
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| 14:48.04 | OSS542 | XorA: same date |
| 14:49.33 | OSS542 | nope...symbol not there |
| 14:50.05 | OSS542 | reflash completed,btw |
| 14:50.38 | OSS542 | used the zimage.bin.C700 renamed to zImage |
| 14:51.27 | OSS542 | odd that |
| 14:51.43 | OSS542 | checking the openzaurus distro on the site again |
| 14:52.02 | XorA | zimage.bin |
| 14:52.10 | koen | zImage.bin even |
| 14:52.42 | Rupert-Giles | wish i bought a 860 instead |
| 14:52.43 | Rupert-Giles | :| |
| 14:52.52 | koen | crappy pxa250 cpus |
| 14:53.01 | koen | ~lart intel |
| 14:53.16 | Rupert-Giles | static unsigned char laugh[] = {0x6c, 0x6f, 0x6c}; |
| 14:54.07 | OSS542 | zimage.bin ? |
| 14:54.13 | OSS542 | rename to zimage.bin ? |
| 14:54.22 | koen | zImage.bin <- note the I |
| 14:55.21 | OSS542 | I'll be hideously embarrassed if I did what I think I did |
| 14:55.29 | koen | It toke me a while to figure out the warning was "attach charger" and not "wrong files" |
| 14:55.40 | OSS542 | a typo in my notes back late last year perhaps ? |
| 14:55.46 | OSS542 | I'll try it now |
| 14:55.56 | koen | s/toke/took/ |
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| 14:58.02 | XorA | koen: nothing wrong with a good toke |
| 14:58.17 | koen | ~dict toke |
| 14:58.23 | koen | heh |
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| 14:58.41 | Rupert-Giles | lol |
| 14:58.45 | OSS542 | hm...that certainly looks different |
| 14:58.57 | OSS542 | just a sec |
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| 15:09.23 | OSS542 | well...that's different all right |
| 15:09.24 | OSS542 | XorA: you were right.....there's the symbol |
| 15:09.58 | XorA | OSS542: we all do it at least 5 times :-) |
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| 15:14.14 | reenoo | re |
| 15:17.56 | OSS542 | XorA: do you happen to remember the name of the touchscreen setup ?...my calibrations now way off |
| 15:19.03 | XorA | OSS542: sorry I dont |
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| 15:21.29 | XorA | OSS542: press home key until you get to Settings tabs, then use arrows/enter key to select Recalibrate |
| 15:22.13 | OSS542 | hm.....no home key...*-) |
| 15:23.13 | XorA | OSS542: whatever key on your device taks you back to desktop |
| 15:24.14 | OSS542 | now on desktop |
| 15:24.33 | OSS542 | no recalibrate facility....do have settings folder, but no recalibrate controls in it |
| 15:24.42 | OSS542 | there is a screen setup, but it crashes |
| 15:25.01 | XorA | OSS542: hmm, I have it between Package Manager and Shutdown |
| 15:25.20 | XorA | Security sorry, not shutdown |
| 15:26.45 | OSS542 | from the toolbar, or in a folder ? |
| 15:27.47 | OSS542 | resetting, going back to desktop |
| 15:28.08 | kergoth`zzz | this isnt the correct channel for that. -> #openzaurus |
| 15:28.33 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 15:28.37 | OSS542 | moving there |
| 15:28.50 | reenoo_ | morning kergoth`zzz |
| 15:29.06 | kergoth`zzz | ~mornings |
| 15:29.07 | ibot | mornings MUST be destroyed! |
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| 15:29.18 | reenoo_ | ~mondays |
| 15:29.19 | ibot | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
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| 15:38.45 | OSS542 | drats....can't get an answer |
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| 15:42.02 | OSS542 | just got it sorted....many thanks to XorA |
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| 16:57.29 | Crofton | The getting started section for FC2/3 has issues |
| 16:58.05 | Crofton | apparently there is no rpm in FC3 for ccache |
| 16:58.55 | Crofton | gah make that the required SW page |
| 16:59.10 | Pend-Gone | god forbid you have to download and compile source ;-) |
| 16:59.18 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:59.33 | Crofton | Should I make some notes on the wiki? |
| 16:59.50 | reenoo_ | fwiw, ccache isn't required |
| 16:59.56 | Crofton | ah ok |
| 17:00.38 | Crofton | how about patch 2.5.9 versus 2.5.4 which is what I have? |
| 17:02.32 | CosmicPenguin | I wouldn't worry too much about it - its only useful if you build the same package over and over again |
| 17:02.57 | CosmicPenguin | In my experience, so much gets compiled during a build that the cache is rarely used |
| 17:03.04 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:03.20 | Crofton | I am running through the required sw page |
| 17:03.34 | Crofton | Guess I'll just install oe and see what happnes :) |
| 17:04.23 | reenoo_ | Crofton: IIRC python and make are the only critical ones on fedora |
| 17:05.46 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:05.56 | Crofton | what about psyco? |
| 17:06.24 | Crofton | hmm, probably only if I am impatient :) |
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| 17:19.01 | reenoo_ | too bad it still segfaults running AWT apps :/ |
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| 17:57.20 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, if I screwed something up, lart me accordingly |
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| 17:58.11 | koen | that also clears up who jcrouse is :) |
| 18:00.21 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: CosmicPenguin? |
| 18:00.22 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, cosmicpenguin is Jordan Crouse or jordan.crouse@amd.com (work) or jordan@cosmicpenguin.net (home) |
| 18:00.34 | koen|flu | heh |
| 18:00.39 | koen|flu | ibot: koen? |
| 18:00.40 | ibot | koen is probably our regular image monkey |
| 18:01.34 | koen|flu | 'morning mickeyl |
| 18:02.39 | mickeyl | morning |
| 18:02.41 | mickeyl | feeling bad ? |
| 18:02.56 | koen|flu | better after sleeping most of the afternoon |
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| 18:12.39 | pb_ | morning mickeyl |
| 18:12.42 | mickeyl | hi pb_ |
| 18:13.27 | reenoo_ | moin mickeyl |
| 18:13.29 | reenoo_ | hey pb_ |
| 18:13.35 | koen|flu | hey pb_ |
| 18:14.12 | VoodooZ_lunch | CosmicPenguin: I was told you'd be the man to ask about problems building on x86-64 |
| 18:14.26 | CosmicPenguin | I'll give it a shot |
| 18:14.57 | VoodooZ_lunch | two of us are having problems building openslug distro under gentoo and fedora with AMD processors. |
| 18:15.06 | VoodooZ_lunch | The package it bails out on is ipkg-native |
| 18:15.30 | VoodooZ_lunch | Ever happened to you? |
| 18:15.44 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 18:15.48 | CosmicPenguin | 140 seems to be borked |
| 18:15.50 | VoodooZ_lunch | It sucks as I'd like to be able to use my work's Sun V40Z quad opteron |
| 18:15.57 | VoodooZ_lunch | 140? |
| 18:16.05 | CosmicPenguin | 0.99.140 |
| 18:16.10 | VoodooZ_lunch | ic. |
| 18:16.25 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't taken the time to debug it at this point - I just set the preferred version back to 0.88.138 and it works |
| 18:16.32 | VoodooZ_lunch | Yeah. the other user told me it worked before and something changes in january |
| 18:16.42 | VoodooZ_lunch | perfect. |
| 18:16.47 | VoodooZ_lunch | As long as it works. |
| 18:16.56 | VoodooZ_lunch | thanks I'll pass the word around. |
| 18:17.02 | CosmicPenguin | I have a deliverable right now, so I'm more in "make it work" mode, then "figure out why" mode |
| 18:17.05 | koen|flu | you could try 0.99.143 which backs out some changes |
| 18:17.18 | VoodooZ_lunch | I will. Thanks guys. |
| 18:18.18 | VoodooZ_lunch | Would this do it? CVSDATE_ipkg-native = "0.99.143" |
| 18:18.38 | kergoth | it isnt cvs. |
| 18:18.44 | VoodooZ_lunch | oops. |
| 18:18.46 | kergoth | CVSDATE is for head cvs checkouts only |
| 18:18.53 | VoodooZ_lunch | ok. what is it then? |
| 18:18.54 | kergoth | you want PREFERRED_VERSION_ipkg-utils-native |
| 18:18.56 | kergoth | er ipkg-native |
| 18:18.57 | kergoth | whatever |
| 18:19.02 | VoodooZ_lunch | k. thanks. |
| 18:19.32 | CosmicPenguin | PREFERRED_VERSION_ipkg-native="0.99.138" |
| 18:19.33 | koen|flu | 0.99.143 needs to be added to OE last time I check (yesterday) |
| 18:19.37 | VoodooZ_lunch | Great. |
| 18:19.42 | CosmicPenguin | ipkg might break too - I dunno |
| 18:19.45 | CosmicPenguin | I just set them both back to .138 |
| 18:19.48 | VoodooZ_lunch | we'll see. |
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| 18:29.44 | pb_ | hi reenoo_ |
| 18:29.46 | pb_ | hi koen|flu |
| 18:30.10 | pb_ | hi kergoth |
| 18:30.11 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 18:35.14 | VoodooZ_lunch | CosmicPenguin: Did you get psyco JIT working under x86-64? |
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| 18:36.01 | VoodooZ_lunch | I tried compiling it but it failed. Just wondering. |
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| 19:26.10 | Crofton | hmmm, what's quilt? |
| 19:27.41 | kergoth_ | Crofton: a tool for managing patchsets, applying patches, etc |
| 19:27.49 | kergoth_ | Crofton: by default OE uses that to do its applying of patches |
| 19:27.57 | kergoth_ | it builds a native architecture version of it for its own use |
| 19:28.05 | VoodooZ_Work | CosmicPenguin: Thanks everything works fine. Except that I can't build psyco JIT but that's ok. |
| 19:28.12 | Crofton | ok, I just started building vim to see what happens |
| 19:28.21 | kergoth_ | cool |
| 19:28.36 | kergoth_ | Crofton: checkt he build configuration before it starts. make sure it looks sane (correct architecture, etc) |
| 19:28.36 | VoodooZ_Work | On my quad opteron I can now build in 32minutes with -j 6. Will see if I can get any better -j tweaking. |
| 19:28.42 | Crofton | I assume it will build the requied libraries and crosscompiler ... |
| 19:28.46 | kergoth_ | yep |
| 19:28.54 | kergoth_ | it builds the toolchain and everything else it needs |
| 19:28.59 | kergoth_ | unless you tell it otherwise |
| 19:29.16 | Crofton | does it save the toolchain for next time? |
| 19:29.27 | kergoth_ | nothing goes away unless you make it go away |
| 19:29.34 | kergoth_ | there's a tmp/ directory in build, that holds the world |
| 19:29.38 | Crofton | ok |
| 19:29.38 | kergoth_ | including the toolchain |
| 19:29.49 | kergoth_ | it uses zero length files to keep track of what its already built |
| 19:29.51 | kergoth_ | look in tmp/stamps/ |
| 19:29.52 | Crofton | Is there a target for a simple rootfs for omap yet? |
| 19:29.56 | kergoth_ | bootstrap-image |
| 19:30.04 | kergoth_ | not target machine specific, it works on just about every platform |
| 19:30.25 | kergoth_ | in oe, machine (device) is seperate from distro (distribution policy), and that in turn is seperate from package selection (image and meta targets) |
| 19:30.42 | kergoth_ | just bitbake bootstrap-image and wait for a jffs2 filesystem to pop out |
| 19:30.56 | Crofton | hmm |
| 19:31.10 | kergoth_ | or tar, or ext2, or whatever you tell it. jffs2 is default, iirc |
| 19:31.14 | Crofton | Can I make it leave the file system on disk? I am NFS mounting root at the moment |
| 19:31.16 | kergoth_ | i generally build a tarball for nfs use |
| 19:31.19 | Crofton | yeah |
| 19:31.21 | Crofton | ok |
| 19:31.25 | kergoth_ | do an IMAGE_FSTYPES = "tar" |
| 19:31.27 | kergoth_ | in local.conf |
| 19:31.32 | kergoth_ | thats a space seperated list of filesystem types |
| 19:31.41 | Crofton | yeah I was wondering why you would do a tar file |
| 19:31.48 | kergoth_ | for permissions reasons |
| 19:31.52 | kergoth_ | the tarball has right perms inside it |
| 19:31.59 | kergoth_ | but if you're building as a user, your tmp/rootfs does not |
| 19:32.00 | Crofton | makes sense |
| 19:32.07 | kergoth_ | so you go unpack the tarball as root |
| 19:32.08 | kergoth_ | use that |
| 19:32.26 | Crofton | Once I get the hang of this, it shuld be fun |
| 19:32.46 | Crofton | especially if I can fix the seemingly random rashes :) |
| 19:33.06 | kergoth_ | the biggest advantage of oe is that you're sharing package metadata with lots of other distirbutions and platforms |
| 19:33.14 | kergoth_ | so you get the fixes and stuff they've already taken care of |
| 19:33.23 | Crofton | yeah, there is way more than we will need here |
| 19:33.40 | kergoth_ | you might want to create a small package repository of your own, with just what you need. up to you |
| 19:33.44 | kergoth_ | oe is _really_ flexible |
| 19:33.55 | Crofton | but hopefully we have the chance to re-use this on other platforms |
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| 19:34.22 | Crofton | anyone put stuff together for the linksys router that runs linux? |
| 19:34.52 | koen|flu | the wrt bits should be in |
| 19:35.04 | koen|flu | iirc mickeyl took care of that |
| 19:35.04 | Crofton | cool |
| 19:35.23 | kergoth_ | they arent totally up to par yet |
| 19:35.28 | kergoth_ | i started adding the openwrt kernel |
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| 19:35.34 | kergoth_ | but man, that linksys kernel is a pile of crap |
| 19:35.44 | kergoth_ | lots of references to external headers outside of the kernel sources, and it doestn build without them |
| 19:35.47 | kergoth_ | etc |
| 19:35.50 | Crofton | ouch |
| 19:36.05 | gremlin[it] | good evening !!! |
| 19:36.09 | kergoth_ | oh, and those files are of questionable licensing. no explicit useful license statements |
| 19:36.10 | koen|flu | hey gremlin[it] |
| 19:36.12 | kergoth_ | just a mess |
| 19:36.29 | gremlin[it] | hi koen|flu !!! ... ohhh flu ?!?!?! ... damn !! |
| 19:36.53 | gremlin[it] | mhh i forget .. what kind of whishes in this case ??? |
| 19:36.55 | koen|flu | kergoth_: my wap54g just had a hickup after you bad mouthed the kernel |
| 19:37.04 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 19:37.28 | koen|flu | gremlin[it]: get well soon or something similar |
| 19:37.31 | kergoth_ | i have a wrt kernel tree thats pretty close to being ready for oe use, but need to take some time to finish the patches |
| 19:37.39 | kergoth_ | havent touched it in weeks, forgot where i was at with it |
| 19:37.41 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 19:39.05 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:39.27 | pb_ | drat, our glibc_cvs patches don't apply to the current cvs version |
| 19:39.37 | pb_ | anybody know what the ldd patch is for? |
| 19:39.40 | gremlin[it] | koen|flu : what about the machine.conf i told u today ? |
| 19:40.34 | koen|flu | gremlin[it]: sounds like a good idea, but machine.confs aren't my area of expertise |
| 19:40.55 | gremlin[it] | who else ? |
| 19:41.08 | kergoth_ | pb_: no idea. probably stole it from debian or someone |
| 19:41.27 | pb_ | I can't figure out exactly what it's doing, but it doesn't look that important. |
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| 19:44.21 | gremlin[it] | what make me fear to make a change is that problably all machine.conf should be changed ... ;( but i know only about my ipaq ... |
| 19:44.26 | kergoth_ | pb_: it looks to me like it was intended to let you be able to 'ldd /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5' even if it isnt executable, by running the ld.so automatically |
| 19:44.51 | kergoth_ | pb_: which seems like it isnt a bad thing. i just checked, and debian's ldd does indeed have that patch applied |
| 19:45.04 | pb_ | ah |
| 19:45.07 | kergoth_ | so we mustve gotten it from there |
| 19:45.17 | pb_ | right |
| 19:45.23 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.27 | kergoth_ | cool |
| 19:45.32 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:45.47 | kergoth_ | god i hate documenting. |
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| 20:01.02 | Guybrush_ | hi ... i wanna make a swapfile ... but "swapon /home/swapfile" print out: Invalid argument |
| 20:01.18 | kergoth_ | you did a mkswap on it? |
| 20:01.29 | Guybrush_ | (OZ3.5.2) yes i did .... |
| 20:01.38 | Guybrush_ | dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/swapfile bs=1024 count=8192 |
| 20:01.45 | Guybrush_ | mkswap /home/swapfile |
| 20:02.13 | Guybrush_ | but swapon /home/swapfile print this error .... Invalid argument |
| 20:02.31 | Guybrush_ | its BusyBox 1.00 (2004.11.29) |
| 20:03.00 | Guybrush_ | it says: Usage: swapon [OPTION] [DEVICE] |
| 20:04.44 | CosmicPenguin | Holy crap, these qt filenames give me a damn headache |
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| 20:13.12 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 20:13.22 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: can I help |
| 20:13.55 | gremlin[it] | with who i can talk about machien.conf structure ? |
| 20:14.10 | zecke | gremlin[it]: not much of a structure |
| 20:14.31 | zecke | gremlin[it]: set preferred kernel, architecture, preferred set of base packages |
| 20:14.56 | zecke | gremlin[it]: list of compatible archs (for ipkg installation), some options for creating the rootfs, jffs2... |
| 20:15.20 | gremlin[it] | i mean changing thing ... i suppose would be better if application have as dependencies kernel modules they need |
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| 20:16.14 | gremlin[it] | exactly have in machine.conf the definition of modules meta package such as 'buetooth' 'wifi' 'ext-storage' and so on |
| 20:16.46 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: heh - no help needed, its just that file names like qgfxmach64_qws.cpp go out of their way to be difficult... :) |
| 20:16.49 | gremlin[it] | and for example gpe-bluetooth have as dependencie bluetooth modules |
| 20:17.08 | zecke | gremlin[it]: some of the core peripherials (like usb, serial lines, serial port, built in wlan) |
| 20:17.13 | gremlin[it] | mhh maybe some bluez-libs would be better .. but i understand |
| 20:17.38 | zecke | gremlin[it]: yes bluez-libs would be approriate, gpe-bluetooth can run without bluetooth modules be loaded (not well though) |
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| 20:18.42 | gremlin[it] | obviously some essential kernel modules can be always included ... such as usb-eth and serial lines audio ... |
| 20:21.09 | gremlin[it] | i build a minimal gpe image for h3600 (few less than 11Mb) but i had to modify h3600.conf to exclude some kernel modules ... so if a solution isn't found my images coudn't be include in oe ... :( ... |
| 20:22.28 | kergoth_ | kernel modules.. its arguable whether thats a machine or distro decision |
| 20:22.31 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 20:23.30 | gremlin[it] | in fact i'm asking if what i thing have a chance to be accepted ... |
| 20:24.00 | gremlin[it] | kergoth i think definition of kernel have to me in kernel ... inclusion in finalimage on distro :) |
| 20:25.47 | gremlin[it] | defining meta or virtual (some one can help me make this decision) thjet make groups of kernel modules could help ... |
| 20:26.25 | pb_ | I'm not exactly clear on what problem you're trying to solve, to be honest. |
| 20:26.46 | kergoth_ | he wants an image that includes less kernel modules out of the box, without having a custom MACHINE |
| 20:26.49 | kergoth_ | afaict |
| 20:27.16 | pb_ | okay. well, in that case, he probably just wants a custom something-image.bb. |
| 20:28.52 | gremlin[it] | how i can remove kernel-modules from a image.bb ??? |
| 20:29.07 | pb_ | just don't include them in the first place. |
| 20:29.25 | gremlin[it] | they are included in amchine.conf |
| 20:29.27 | pb_ | the image.bb (or, more specifically, the rootfs.bb) gets to choose what is included. |
| 20:29.41 | pb_ | no, they are not. machine.conf does not get any direct say in what goes into the image. |
| 20:29.54 | gremlin[it] | mhhh ??? can u point to a .bb that alredy do that ??? |
| 20:30.07 | pb_ | no. |
| 20:30.10 | gremlin[it] | point me ... ;( |
| 20:30.13 | gremlin[it] | ohh :( |
| 20:30.49 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: machine .conf specifies what task-bootstrap depends on. if your image doesnt pull in task-bootstrap, but its own custom set of packages, then those wont be installed. |
| 20:31.18 | pb_ | right |
| 20:32.22 | gremlin[it] | so i can define a my custon task-bootstrap-naked.bb or do all inside gpe-image-naked.bb ? right ? |
| 20:32.31 | pb_ | indeed |
| 20:32.40 | kergoth_ | that new archos is rather tempting |
| 20:32.48 | pb_ | it wouldn't make a lot of sense to define a "task-bootstrap-naked", since that would be something of a contradiction in terms. |
| 20:32.54 | kergoth_ | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8811342597.html |
| 20:34.44 | pb_ | mm, looks cute |
| 20:35.05 | koen|flu | now that's a cute mythbox |
| 20:35.12 | kergoth_ | pricey, but seems like a nice multimedia device, and with the vga display, could be a usable pda-like device |
| 20:35.16 | kergoth_ | usb host.. |
| 20:35.45 | koen|flu | usb 2.0 even |
| 20:37.01 | gremlin[it] | mhh i'm looking on task-bootstrap.bb but i'm not able to identify where kernel-modules ar included :( ... |
| 20:37.11 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: ? |
| 20:37.29 | kergoth_ | task-bootstrap.bb obeys the BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS and BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS variables. |
| 20:37.39 | kergoth_ | which is what machine.conf manipulates |
| 20:37.40 | gremlin[it] | i'm try to understand how to do what pb_ told me ... |
| 20:37.58 | kergoth_ | just create a new -image.bb. you dont need a new task, just add all the items to the image expliictly |
| 20:39.34 | pb_ | zecke: do you know what's going on with qt-x11-free-4.0.0-b1-r0? |
| 20:39.54 | pb_ | seems that the crazy trolls have deleted the source from their website or something. |
| 20:40.26 | gremlin[it] | ok i found it |
| 20:41.34 | zecke | pb_: feel free to mark it BROKEN = "1" and I will unbreak it tomorrow |
| 20:41.57 | CosmicPenguin | hmmmm..... |
| 20:42.03 | koen|flu | 'night zecke |
| 20:42.21 | pb_ | zecke: thanks |
| 20:42.48 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: has anything changed in BB recently regarding the order in which similarly versioned .bb files are used? |
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| 20:43.04 | CosmicPenguin | i.e. qte-2.6.10-r4 in openembedded/ and qte-2.6.10-r4 in foo/ |
| 20:43.10 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:43.25 | CosmicPenguin | Before, if I had foo/ in BBPATH before openembedded, the foo/ version would be used |
| 20:43.34 | CosmicPenguin | but recently, I've noticed it working the othe way aorund |
| 20:43.50 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: it never cared about BBPATH wrt handling of that. the only way to exert control over that situation is to use bb package collections |
| 20:43.52 | koen|flu | hey Pigi |
| 20:43.55 | kergoth_ | you were probably just lucky |
| 20:44.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: ok - so it working was basically a fluke.... :) |
| 20:44.07 | kergoth_ | undefined behavior |
| 20:44.09 | gremlin[it] | ciao Pigi |
| 20:44.09 | CosmicPenguin | welllll..... shit |
| 20:44.21 | kergoth_ | package collections are your friends |
| 20:44.47 | CosmicPenguin | s/code/defines/ |
| 20:45.52 | kergoth_ | wonder how long itll take archos to get the kernel sources for that new device out |
| 20:46.23 | Guybrush_ | is there any chance to USE the 30MB RAM /dev/mtdblock3 for RAM ? (i cant get a swapfile running in this path /home ) |
| 20:46.58 | koen|flu | Guybrush_: mtd != ram |
| 20:46.58 | kergoth_ | you dont want to be swapping on flash |
| 20:47.02 | Pigi | Ciao gremlin[it] |
| 20:47.06 | kergoth_ | flash has a limited lifetime |
| 20:47.19 | Pigi | koen|flu, hi, and.... what's flu ? |
| 20:47.35 | koen|flu | influenza |
| 20:47.41 | Crofton | I may try swapping to CF on our OSK board :) |
| 20:47.50 | Crofton | an old CF card though |
| 20:48.45 | Pigi | koen|flu, arghhhhh |
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| 20:51.27 | hedgehair | if i want to compile a prog for oe, i start by making a my_prog/stuff/openembedded/conf/local.conf ? copied from the /stuff/openembedded/conf/local.conf.sample from bk clone? |
| 20:53.32 | kergoth_ | hedgehair: read GettingStarted on the wiki. |
| 20:53.39 | pb_ | ah, looks like they renamed qt-x11-free to qt-x11-opensource |
| 20:53.45 | pb_ | ~lart trolltech |
| 20:54.33 | kergoth_ | heh, not a bad way to go, but wouldve been nice if they did that in the first place |
| 20:54.51 | pb_ | yeah |
| 20:56.14 | prpplague | pb_: ok, what are the top 3 reasons why the upper 4 words on an sdram bank are trash? |
| 20:57.39 | pb_ | heh, no idea |
| 20:57.45 | pb_ | does that just happen at random times? |
| 20:57.59 | Guybrush_ | kergoth_: ok ... thx |
| 20:58.28 | prpplague | pb_: no, from the get go |
| 20:58.37 | pb_ | bizarre |
| 20:58.51 | prpplague | pb_: probably an init issue |
| 20:59.04 | prpplague | pb_: writing up a ram excerise program now |
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| 21:17.27 | gremlin[it] | when i see >>> export IPKG_INSTALL = "aaa" <<< ... what is installed of package aaa.bb DEPENDS RDEPENDS RRECOMMENDS ? |
| 21:18.05 | kergoth_ | IPKG_INSTALL is what gets passed to ipkg to be installed into the image. |
| 21:18.22 | kergoth_ | by definition, thats the packagename of an ipk file. runtime. |
| 21:20.11 | gremlin[it] | i'm tring to "embed" task-boostrap/bootstrap-image into gep-image-naked ... but have some trouble ... :( .. |
| 21:20.57 | kergoth_ | ? |
| 21:21.08 | kergoth_ | put the items that are in task-bootstrap's RDEPENDS into IPKG_INSTALL. |
| 21:22.47 | gremlin[it] | also DEPENDS in DEPENDS ? |
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| 21:26.41 | Pigi | bbl |
| 21:26.45 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: yes. |
| 21:27.03 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, yep ... seem to work ... |
| 21:28.14 | gremlin[it] | anyway i think not a good choise to redefine BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS inside an image.bb ... make machine.conf about unusefull :( ... |
| 21:28.31 | kergoth_ | ? |
| 21:28.37 | kergoth_ | those variables only affect task-bootstrap |
| 21:28.44 | kergoth_ | of course they wouldnt affect your image that doesnt use it |
| 21:28.54 | aig | this is probably a dumb question, but i was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction... i've tried building openzaurus-3.5.2, 3.5.3, and just openzaurus (specifying those in local.conf), and bitbake opie-image. The build process goes fine and creates an image and kernel. When I flash my collie, just after "Please waitL booting...", I get "cat: /etc/ramdisk.conf: No such file or directory", and it doesn't go any further. Any |
| 21:28.54 | aig | thoughts? |
| 21:30.43 | gremlin[it] | kergoth, anyway i'll try to do what i have in mind ad give you the changes to see if are acceptable ;) |
| 21:30.53 | kergoth_ | k |
| 21:31.51 | treke | whee |
| 21:32.02 | treke | a mudslide apparently took out both of our data t1s |
| 21:32.10 | koen|flu | D'oh |
| 21:32.14 | kergoth_ | a mudslide? |
| 21:32.24 | kergoth_ | that sucks |
| 21:32.30 | kergoth_ | today fucking sucks all around |
| 21:32.33 | kergoth_ | bleh |
| 21:32.44 | kergoth_ | i should go up to starbucks for a second time today |
| 21:32.53 | treke | yeah. lots of rain. Apparantly plugging one of of pri's into the router worked though :) |
| 21:42.55 | CosmicPenguin | It looks like the opie/pics directory has been rearranged in the upstream CVS |
| 21:42.57 | CosmicPenguin | anyone else get that? |
| 22:00.33 | kergoth_ | chouimat: excellent idea |
| 22:00.56 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 22:01.13 | chouimat | kergoth_: I know since today it's free :) |
| 22:01.22 | CosmicPenguin | Citizens of Qubec, lock up your daughters |
| 22:01.32 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: ottawa |
| 22:01.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 22:01.55 | gremlin[it] | mhhh the function ${@linux_module_packages('${MY_MODULES}')} are defined everywhere or only in .conf files ? |
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| 22:01.55 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: look it's only happens once a year so |
| 22:02.01 | CosmicPenguin | I'm lucky I got a province in Canada |
| 22:02.21 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
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| 22:05.05 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 22:19.43 | proti | ibot: seen schurig |
| 22:19.55 | ibot | schurig <~schurig@p5080B4CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 3d 7h 15m 19s ago, saying: 'cedric_: my busybox has a /usr/bin/id and a /usr/bin/['. |
| 22:22.09 | Bernardo | mickeyl: was there any change recently to libqpe that would break simpad buttons? |
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| 22:33.14 | gremlin[it] | mhh still some errors ... i'll check tomorrow |
| 22:33.17 | gremlin[it] | byeeee |
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| 22:42.46 | Pigi | re |
| 22:42.59 | pb_ | Pigi: wb |
| 22:43.08 | Pigi | :) |
| 22:43.30 | Pigi | we don't have libgl in familiar, right ? |
| 22:43.47 | Pigi | s/libgl/libGL |
| 22:44.50 | pb_ | dunno. mesa is in oe, but I have no idea if it is in famiiar. |
| 22:44.55 | pb_ | familiar, even |
| 22:45.28 | Pigi | ok. so that's what zecked asked yesterday. "remove mesa deps from sdlperl" :) |
| 22:45.40 | Pigi | s/zacked/zacke |
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| 22:45.54 | Pigi | ohhh well. you know who I mean :) |
| 22:46.29 | pb_ | heh |
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| 22:47.18 | pb_ | I wonder why sdlperl wanted GL in the first place. |
| 22:47.29 | guillermo | I don't find libthread in oe, but I found some ipkg in inet |
| 22:47.39 | guillermo | how can I get it, or where? |
| 22:48.12 | kergoth_ | libthread? |
| 22:48.25 | guillermo | libthread_db |
| 22:48.52 | kergoth_ | ~/code/user/oe/build-colinux$ ls tmp/deploy/ipk/libthread-db1_0.9.27-r0_i686.ipk |
| 22:48.53 | kergoth_ | tmp/deploy/ipk/libthread-db1_0.9.27-r0_i686.ipk |
| 22:48.58 | kergoth_ | looks just fine to me. |
| 22:49.06 | Pigi | from www.libsdl.org: Simple DirectMedia Layer is a cross-platform multimedia library designed to provide low level access to audio, keyboard, mouse, joystick, 3D hardware via OpenGL, and 2D video framebuffer. |
| 22:49.08 | kergoth_ | it comes from the C library. |
| 22:49.10 | kergoth_ | glibc or uclibc |
| 22:49.29 | pb_ | Pigi: oh, right. maybe you just need to turn GL off. |
| 22:49.42 | pb_ | we definitely had sdlperl working back in familiar 0.7 days without Mesa. |
| 22:50.00 | guillermo | kergoth, why is that not in the oe repository? I want it to use gdb with libthread support |
| 22:50.06 | kergoth_ | guillermo: what are you talking about? |
| 22:50.21 | kergoth_ | glibc and uclibc are both in oe, and both build and emit libthread_db |
| 22:50.33 | Pigi | ehehe more easy to say than to to do :) should have all the Makefile.PL. that would be definitivelly easer in a crosscompile environment than in OE :) |
| 22:51.20 | Crofton | any ideas on how to get oe to build a kernel from a locally maintained tree? |
| 22:51.26 | guillermo | kergoth, ok, I didn't think so |
| 22:51.30 | Crofton | rather than pulling file from ftp site? |
| 22:51.37 | kergoth_ | Crofton: file:// |
| 22:51.46 | kergoth_ | Crofton: relative paths in file:// search in FILESPATH. absolute are used directly |
| 22:51.53 | kergoth_ | so just file:///usr/src/blah |
| 22:51.54 | kergoth_ | or whatever |
| 22:51.57 | Crofton | yeah, but I want it to build in my local tree |
| 22:52.03 | kergoth_ | ahh |
| 22:52.05 | Crofton | not from a tar file |
| 22:52.09 | kergoth_ | and? |
| 22:52.14 | Crofton | I pull from bitkeeper |
| 22:52.14 | kergoth_ | file:///usr/src/tree |
| 22:52.21 | kergoth_ | i dont understand your question. |
| 22:52.26 | Crofton | hmm |
| 22:52.34 | kergoth_ | local tree of what? |
| 22:52.43 | Crofton | I have the unpacked kernel source already |
| 22:52.43 | kergoth_ | i need some context. tell me what you're trying to do |
| 22:52.56 | kergoth_ | okay, you want to create a .bb for it |
| 22:53.02 | Crofton | I take kernel source from bitkeeper |
| 22:53.05 | kergoth_ | and put the directory as a file:/// entry in its SRC_URI |
| 22:53.18 | kergoth_ | a directory in SRC_URI will be "unpacked" by doing a cp -a |
| 22:53.23 | Crofton | so I can specify path to kernel source |
| 22:53.27 | Crofton | ok |
| 22:53.32 | Crofton | got it |
| 22:53.47 | kergoth_ | probably just cp the existing linux-omap .bb to something else. linux-omap-local |
| 22:53.49 | kergoth_ | or whatever |
| 22:53.52 | kergoth_ | cahnge SRC_URI as appropriate |
| 22:53.53 | Crofton | is file:/// differenet from file:// |
| 22:54.01 | Crofton | yeah |
| 22:54.02 | kergoth_ | the third / is the first in the absolute path |
| 22:54.05 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.07 | kergoth_ | file:///usr/src/linux |
| 22:54.09 | Crofton | ok |
| 22:54.34 | Crofton | never mind kernel ftp is running at about 5K/s right now |
| 22:55.23 | pb_ | Pigi: is SDL itself trying to link with Mesa, or just sdlperl? |
| 22:55.35 | Pigi | it's sdlperl. |
| 22:55.59 | kergoth_ | Crofton: if you had the exact tarball oe wants already, you could put that in its DL_DIR. if you want to use completely different kernel sources, then it really needs to be a seperate package in oe. seperate .bb. |
| 22:56.05 | Pigi | there is an option in configure to remove the need of gl, but I don't know how to say oe to use it. |
| 22:56.20 | Crofton | yeah, I will make a seperate bb |
| 22:56.29 | pb_ | Pigi: set EXTRA_OECONF |
| 22:56.33 | Crofton | then I can use my own config file |
| 22:56.39 | kergoth_ | yeah |
| 22:56.48 | Pigi | in .bb file ? |
| 22:56.55 | pb_ | yeah |
| 22:57.21 | Crofton | other people may find this useful, at least for omap |
| 22:57.22 | Pigi | that would pass the options to configure, right ? |
| 22:57.26 | Crofton | er osk |
| 22:57.50 | kergoth_ | Crofton: i'm planning on adding a .bb for the most recent release. the 2.6.11-rc4-omap |
| 22:58.04 | pb_ | Pigi: right |
| 22:58.19 | Crofton | hmm, they are fiddling with the CF stuff currently and I need that |
| 22:58.33 | Pigi | I should definitivelly buy another 512Mb of ram |
| 22:58.34 | kergoth_ | ah, you need bleeding edge |
| 22:58.37 | Crofton | so I think I will want to track bk closer than snapshots |
| 22:58.55 | pb_ | Pigi: heh. yes, you need at least 1GB for a comfortable oe experience |
| 22:58.56 | Crofton | So I want to automate the tracking |
| 22:58.59 | kergoth_ | someone has a patch to teach oe to fetch from bk:// urls, could add a linux-omap_bk with that |
| 22:59.05 | Pigi | pb_ agreed. |
| 22:59.21 | Crofton | maybe not necessarily auto fetch |
| 23:03.33 | kergoth_ | hmm, i should really get off my ass and do my taxes |
| 23:04.41 | Crofton | yep |
| 23:05.03 | kergoth_ | course that involves cleaning my closet |
| 23:05.07 | kergoth_ | so i can find my paperwork |
| 23:06.58 | kergoth_ | heh, i ran a sed script on the oe repo to catch some packages that hardcode their target paths instead of obeying our vars |
| 23:07.01 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.07 | kergoth_ | (and that doesnt catch them all) |
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| 23:11.13 | pb_ | kergoth: heh |
| 23:11.37 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3082 10openembedded/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:11.37 | CIA-8 | Merge oe-devel@oe-devel.bkbits.net:openembedded |
| 23:11.37 | CIA-8 | into odin.sc.ti.com:/home/kergoth/code/user/oe/openembedded |
| 23:11.42 | pb_ | thinking of taxes, yay, the IR finally processed my rebate. |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3072.1.2 10openembedded/packages/ (215 files in 136 dirs): |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-8 | Run a sed script against our packages to fix some hardcoded target path |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-8 | references. As always when I do things like this, if packages you maintain |
| 23:11.42 | CIA-8 | were touched by this, please do a sanity check to ensure the sed script didn't |
| 23:11.43 | CIA-8 | run wild. |
| 23:11.45 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3072.1.1 10openembedded/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Use a HOTPLUG variable to manage which hotplug you prefer, to ensure that hotplug is still included in task-bootstrap even if you dont set DISTRO. |
| 23:13.39 | Twiun | pb_: So you got all of that 0.02GBP back? |
| 23:14.23 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3083 10openembedded/packages/ipkg/ipkg-0.99.140/paths.patch: Add the paths patch to ipkg which fixes it to no longer hardcode the '/usr/lib/ipkg' path, which I forgot to check in from the previous commit. |
| 23:14.43 | pb_ | Twiun: 3183.02 GBP in this case, but yeah |
| 23:14.48 | kergoth_ | Pigi: ping |
| 23:14.53 | Twiun | pb_: Ooo, nice |
| 23:15.07 | Pigi | kergoth_, pong :) |
| 23:15.12 | Twiun | pb_: how long did they keep you waiting? |
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| 23:15.23 | pb_ | Twiun: seems that somehow I managed to overpay my taxes for the last couple of years. |
| 23:15.34 | pb_ | Twiun: about two weeks. |
| 23:15.39 | kergoth_ | Pigi: ipkg.h hardcodes /usr/lib/ipkg. the paths patch i just checked in makes configure.ac do a ipkg.h.in -> ipkg.h to subst @libdir@ on that. could you check that in, or something similar? |
| 23:16.51 | Pigi | well, I should bk pull to see it, right ? |
| 23:17.03 | kergoth_ | it just does a mv ipkg.h ipkg.h.in |
| 23:17.10 | kergoth_ | then cahnges the usr/lib/ipkg define to @libdir@/ipkg |
| 23:17.21 | kergoth_ | and adds that to configure.in, of course |
| 23:17.57 | kergoth_ | heh, "obey the autoconf path variables" sounds like a new item for that buildsystems rules of thumb page i stasrted |
| 23:18.00 | kergoth_ | started, even |
| 23:18.43 | Pigi | I will give a look at this. I have to see if that won't break the new 0.99.143 for the externals dir, but I don't think. |
| 23:18.53 | Pigi | s/dir/lists_dir |
| 23:19.26 | Pigi | can I pull out from oe repository only ipkg ? |
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| 23:19.47 | kergoth_ | nope. pull and push have to pull and push everything. |
| 23:19.54 | kergoth_ | you can look at the patch via the web interface |
| 23:20.00 | kergoth_ | or clone yourself a second repo and pull into that |
| 23:20.07 | kergoth_ | bk clone -l /path/to/openembedded /path/to/openembedded.pristine |
| 23:20.21 | Pigi | I haven't all that disk space :) |
| 23:20.23 | kergoth_ | cd /path/to/openembedded.pristine; bk pull http://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 23:20.30 | kergoth_ | Pigi: clone -l hard links everything. |
| 23:20.38 | kergoth_ | Pigi: the links only break when something differs |
| 23:20.42 | kergoth_ | works fairly well |
| 23:20.58 | Pigi | I know, but I'm workind on SDLperl, so it will |
| 23:21.11 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out why some .postinst scripts run in offline root mode, and others don't |
| 23:21.30 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: has to do with returning an exit code. all postinsts are run at image creation time |
| 23:21.37 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: but some check for $D being set, and exit if it is |
| 23:21.42 | kergoth_ | (to indicate they cant be run at that time) |
| 23:21.47 | CosmicPenguin | I see... |
| 23:22.25 | kergoth_ | ~/code/user/oe/openembedded$ ls packages/*/*.bb|cut -d/ -f3|cut -d_ -f1|grep -vE '\-(cross|native)'|sort -u|wc -l |
| 23:22.29 | kergoth_ | 1333 |
| 23:22.31 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 23:24.41 | _keith | kergoth: Chris, I did a little more sniffing into the Slow SD card problem on my SL-6000 and re-formated the card with vfat. It flies. Then reformatting with ext2 makes it slow again. So the problem may be the ext2 FS |
| 23:25.02 | kergoth_ | _keith: is sd flagged as 'sync' in /etc/fstab? |
| 23:25.02 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 23:25.20 | kergoth_ | (need to check the simple things) |
| 23:25.21 | _keith | kergoth: Yep. |
| 23:25.36 | kergoth_ | thatd do it then. all writes are synchronous. you have to wait for them all to hit the hardware |
| 23:25.48 | kergoth_ | makes operations safe, you can remove the card without doing a safe unmount of it |
| 23:25.58 | kergoth_ | so its a good default for a distro, but probably isnt good for your purposes |
| 23:27.01 | CosmicPenguin | grr... |
| 23:27.05 | _keith | Oh well, I might try async then, but for example, when testing with the opie SD benchmark, the SD test never returns it just hangs up when ext2. But returns almost immediatly when vfat. |
| 23:27.13 | kergoth_ | odd |
| 23:27.25 | kergoth_ | ext2 is always slower than vfat, thats expected |
| 23:27.28 | kergoth_ | unfortunate, but expected |
| 23:27.31 | kergoth_ | but shouldnt be _that_ bad |
| 23:27.35 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh.... |
| 23:27.38 | _keith | Yeah 8-) but not that slow 8-/ |
| 23:27.48 | CosmicPenguin | is ${CROSS_DIR}/sbin/ not in the patch? |
| 23:27.51 | CosmicPenguin | s/patch/path/ |
| 23:28.00 | kergoth_ | doubt it |
| 23:28.17 | CosmicPenguin | It tisn't |
| 23:28.19 | _keith | kergoth: Did you see my message about the sound problem? |
| 23:28.28 | pb_ | someone should fix opie's sd benchmark to not write to the card, I guess. |
| 23:28.31 | kergoth_ | on the list? yeah |
| 23:28.35 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: on my boxen, the cross module-init-tools are installing there |
| 23:28.44 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: aha, thats no good |
| 23:28.46 | pb_ | reading should be more-or-less filesystem (and -o sync) independent |
| 23:28.54 | CosmicPenguin | Actually, belay that |
| 23:28.58 | _keith | Yeah, Problem is the opie volume applet. Not the kernel. |
| 23:29.20 | CosmicPenguin | No - unbelay that |
| 23:29.24 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:29.32 | _keith | Remove the Volume applet and all is fine. Add the volume applet and all is muted until next reboot. |
| 23:29.43 | pb_ | well, if module-init-tools is installing into cross/sbin, that's a bug in that .bb |
| 23:30.04 | CosmicPenguin | do_stage () { |
| 23:30.04 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.04 | CosmicPenguin | } |
| 23:30.16 | kergoth_ | sbindir = ${base_bindir} |
| 23:30.20 | kergoth_ | in the -cross incarnation |
| 23:30.26 | kergoth_ | or whatever |
| 23:30.34 | kergoth_ | actually, cross.bbclass should be mangling sbindir |
| 23:30.56 | CosmicPenguin | looks like lsmod is being installed correctly |
| 23:30.57 | kergoth_ | yep, my recent fixes for target paths broke it |
| 23:30.57 | Pigi | kergoth_, there should be some problems with your patch |
| 23:30.58 | CosmicPenguin | but the rest aren't |
| 23:31.23 | CosmicPenguin | recommended fix? |
| 23:31.30 | Pigi | I have applied to my local copy of cvs, and : #define IPKG_STATE_DIR_PREFIX "${exec_prefix}/lib/ipkg" |
| 23:32.04 | kergoth_ | Pigi: heh, then fix that one to use @libdir@ too |
| 23:32.08 | kergoth_ | ahh right |
| 23:32.13 | kergoth_ | we'll need to do it in Makefile.am |
| 23:32.15 | kergoth_ | add a new -D |
| 23:32.28 | kergoth_ | -DLIBDIR=\"@libdir@\" |
| 23:32.29 | kergoth_ | or whatever |
| 23:33.56 | Pigi | to the cflags ? |
| 23:34.04 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: is the right fix to change sbin to bin, or to add sbin to the path? |
| 23:34.06 | kergoth_ | yeah. same way you define the build and target sys |
| 23:34.20 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3084 10openembedded/classes/ (native.bbclass cross.bbclass): Fix sbindir in native.bbclass and cross.bbclass. Thanks to Jordan Crouse for reporting. |
| 23:34.26 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: i'd say the right fix is to set it to bin. there's no real need for a seperate sbin/ in cross_dir |
| 23:34.31 | kergoth_ | heh, there |
| 23:34.32 | CosmicPenguin | Or fix it that way.... :) |
| 23:35.32 | CosmicPenguin | crap - I just merged this morning.... |
| 23:35.42 | kergoth_ | hehe, sorry. path fixes galore |
| 23:35.48 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 23:36.40 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3085 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Kill the ipkg paths patch, since its busted. |
| 23:36.45 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 23:37.16 | Pigi | kergoth, I will try it tomorrow and let you know. If that works I will release the 0.99.144 and you can import that one. |
| 23:37.29 | kergoth_ | cool, thanks |
| 23:37.39 | kergoth_ | a _lot_ of packages werent obeying our paths right |
| 23:37.43 | kergoth_ | i still have lots more to fix |
| 23:40.45 | Pigi | nite all |
| 23:40.54 | kergoth_ | night |
| 23:45.02 | ljp | finally, the 6000 landed back on my desk |
| 23:46.08 | hedgehair | when ever i try to bk clone bk://openembedded.bkbits.net/openembedded it get this error about bad hostname "localhost.(none)".BitKeeper requires a fully qualified hostname. Names such as "localhost.*" are also illegal ? i had localhost, and localhost.(none) and i get the same, did all the files transfer though? |
| 23:46.42 | kergoth_ | you need a fully qualified domain name. |
| 23:46.50 | kergoth_ | export BK_HOST=localhost.localdomain or something |
| 23:47.18 | pb_ | or just set a proper hostname on your computer |
| 23:47.19 | pb_ | heh |
| 23:47.37 | kergoth_ | heh, yeah |
| 23:48.07 | hedgehair | did the files transfer though or do i have to clone again? |
| 23:48.41 | hedgehair | Consistency check failed, repository left locked. WARNING: deleting orphan file /tmp/bk_clonechk_L6p4UD ? |
| 23:48.52 | kergoth_ | apparently not. |
| 23:49.04 | hedgehair | arg |
| 23:49.15 | kergoth_ | set BK_HOST |
| 23:49.18 | kergoth_ | cd openembedded |
| 23:49.20 | kergoth_ | try running bk resolve |
| 23:58.45 | _keith | kergoth: Chris, I just set /etc/fstab to defaults for both SD & CF running ext2 and the problems are gone, so I guess it is the sync mode that causes the problem. But it shouldn't be soooo slow. The Spurious Disk Changes still appear in the syslog though. |
| 23:59.52 | Crofton | hm, do I change linux-omap-2.6 to linnux-omap_bk in omap5912osk.conf |