| 00:19.59 | treke | arg |
| 00:20.10 | treke | ~lart gints again |
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| 00:39.45 | treke | ooh a tuxsceen on ebay |
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| 00:41.22 | kergoth | whee |
| 00:41.29 | kergoth | i have like one slide done for my presentation tomorrow |
| 00:41.42 | treke | congratulations |
| 00:41.42 | kergoth | gotta love procrastination |
| 00:41.48 | treke | now install power point and use it |
| 00:41.56 | kergoth | my boss already told me i had to use that |
| 00:41.59 | kergoth | no svg for me |
| 00:42.00 | kergoth | fuckers |
| 00:42.05 | treke | it seems to be easy to generate page after page of crap in powerpoint |
| 00:42.08 | treke | and managers love it |
| 00:42.14 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 00:42.25 | treke | kergoth: add more animation |
| 00:42.49 | treke | maybe a little omap cpu zipping across the screen |
| 00:42.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:43.00 | reenoo_ | I have like... no slides at all done for my presentation on thursday |
| 00:43.16 | kergoth | there's no specific thing i've been told to present, so i'm not too worried |
| 00:43.22 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:43.36 | kergoth | its like.. "hey, teach them some of what you know about linux and the gpl and stuff" |
| 00:43.38 | kergoth | "eh, okay" |
| 00:44.36 | reenoo_ | well |
| 00:44.48 | reenoo_ | this is something like an assignment |
| 00:45.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:45.04 | kergoth | for work? or..? |
| 00:45.09 | reenoo_ | university |
| 00:45.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:45.26 | treke | so it's completely worthless? :p |
| 00:45.34 | reenoo_ | completely |
| 00:45.59 | treke | kergoth: the answer seems simple "I'm a coder and not a lawyer" |
| 00:46.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:46.23 | kergoth | well, our developers havent been doing a good job of having copyright headers, license information, etc |
| 00:46.31 | kergoth | and someone _removed_ someone elses copyright at one point |
| 00:46.40 | kergoth | so clearly people dont know jack about this stuff |
| 00:46.45 | treke | this is why you get HR and someone from legal down there :p |
| 00:46.55 | kergoth | heh, well, they want a gpl perspective. |
| 00:47.03 | reenoo_ | it's supposed to be economics and business administration for CS people. in fact it's more like "how to impress management people by faking data and presentations" |
| 00:47.04 | kergoth | so i'll go over some community interaction things |
| 00:47.12 | treke | oh god |
| 00:47.14 | kergoth | how _not_ to fuckup your relationship with the linux community |
| 00:47.18 | treke | they picked the wrong person for that |
| 00:47.21 | kergoth | A Case Study: Sharp |
| 00:47.22 | kergoth | :D |
| 00:47.24 | kergoth | should be amjusing |
| 00:47.29 | treke | charm school, kergoth style |
| 00:47.34 | kergoth | haha |
| 00:47.41 | reenoo_ | heh |
| 00:47.48 | kergoth | "step one, RTFM" |
| 00:48.03 | treke | "In what case is it appropriate to call the user an idiot? Anyone?" |
| 00:48.09 | kergoth | haha |
| 00:48.58 | treke | "Before our next chapter: Things that piss RMK off. I recommend that you all go use the restroom. This will take a while" |
| 00:49.27 | reenoo_ | ~lart Java |
| 00:50.50 | reenoo_ | this stupid semaphore implementation is still not working |
| 00:52.34 | kergoth | the key is for me to get at least the basic slides together in each area |
| 00:52.45 | kergoth | i can bullshit my way through to fill inthe gaps if need be |
| 00:52.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:20.35 | treke | kergoth: make sure you cover not dragging your feet on source |
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| 03:27.37 | keturn | lets pretend I was going to submit a patch to bitbake. What python versions are you maintaining compatibility with? |
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| 04:06.39 | dave-osk | I noticed that uicmoc-native_2.3.10-snapshot-20050131.bb can't find its patches |
| 04:06.56 | kergoth | forget to bk -r co -q after doing a bk pull perhaps? |
| 04:07.13 | dave-osk | No, verified that (bk -r get -qS after every pull) |
| 04:07.18 | dave-osk | my workaround was ... |
| 04:07.36 | dave-osk | ln -s *20/*.patch . |
| 04:07.53 | kergoth | ah, someone bk mv'd the .bb without moving the files directory? |
| 04:07.54 | kergoth | oops |
| 04:07.58 | dave-osk | putting symlinks in the parent directory. Build is progressing. Will I be in trouble? |
| 04:08.04 | kergoth | naw |
| 04:08.31 | dave-osk | OK, good. Thanks. I have my OSK environment progressing now.... :) |
| 04:08.35 | kergoth | cool |
| 04:09.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:09.34 | kergoth | i was gonna do the slides as svgs using inkscape, and "slideshow" with an image viewer |
| 04:09.38 | kergoth | boss wanted powerpoint |
| 04:09.59 | chouimat|busy | kergoth: poor you |
| 04:10.08 | kergoth | bastards |
| 04:10.16 | kergoth | <boss> if its svg, how do people edit it? |
| 04:10.25 | chouimat|busy | kergoth: I got the new Apocalyptica album tonight |
| 04:10.25 | kergoth | <me> with a vector graphics app that doesnt suck? |
| 04:10.29 | kergoth | <boss> ... |
| 04:15.54 | kergoth | chouimat|busy: how is it? |
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| 04:25.05 | chouimat|busy | kergoth: here a small sample |
| 04:25.41 | chouimat|busy | kergoth: Dave Lombardo of slayer play on that song |
| 04:25.49 | kergoth | ah cool |
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| 05:24.55 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 05:37.08 | emte | night |
| 05:37.28 | emte | hmm, time for a new bitbake install just in case |
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| 08:24.40 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:37.35 | hrw|work | hi |
| 08:37.45 | bluelightning | hi hrw|work |
| 08:38.21 | bluelightning | hrw|work: btw I suspect opie-eye is not crashing for me because I have 2 in /proc/cpu/alignment |
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| 08:44.45 | hrw|work | bluelightning: I dont even know what value my collie has there |
| 08:45.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3077 10openembedded/packages/libpng/libpng_1.2.8.bb: add libpng 1.2.8 (copied from 1.2.7) as suggested by Cedirc Bompart |
| 08:47.52 | bluelightning | 5 I think is the default |
| 08:48.41 | XorA | morning |
| 08:49.00 | bluelightning | which means "when you hit an alignment error, crash and burn with SIGBUS and write to syslog" |
| 08:49.48 | koen | 3 should be the default now |
| 08:49.57 | koen | "continue, but print a warning" |
| 08:51.40 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3078 10openembedded/packages/libpng/libpng-native_1.2.8.bb: add libpng-native 1.2.8 too |
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| 09:00.09 | cedric | I would like to create a simple sdl (x11) program, which .bb file should I base myself on? |
| 09:00.46 | koen | I'd say scummvm |
| 09:01.02 | koen | use DEPENDS=virtual/libsdl |
| 09:01.25 | cedric | koen: thx |
| 09:02.42 | cedric | koen: and how can OE decide which sdl lib to use? qpe or x11 |
| 09:03.20 | koen | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl=libsdl-x11 in your local.conf |
| 09:03.36 | cedric | ok |
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| 09:11.23 | chris144|work | good morning |
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| 09:37.32 | zullinux | ~bbcow |
| 09:37.33 | ibot | from memory, bbcow is a couple patches for bitbake and openembedded to use copy-on-write for the metadata handling. It greatly reduces memory consumption. Get them at http://www.frankengul.org/~seb/cowbb/. |
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| 09:40.00 | hrw|work | Hi Berneardo |
| 09:40.10 | Bernardo | hi hrw|work |
| 09:41.19 | Bernardo | how does one get to the maintenance menu on a collie - d m reset? |
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| 09:42.20 | hrw|work | D+P or D+M |
| 09:42.42 | Bernardo | ok, let me see if it is D P |
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| 09:43.01 | ade|desk | morning folks |
| 09:43.52 | Bernardo | D P works, thanks hrw|work |
| 09:43.55 | Bernardo | hi ade|desk |
| 09:46.01 | hrw|work | hi ade |
| 09:52.57 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3079 10openembedded/packages/gpsdrive/gpsdrive_2.10pre2.bb: |
| 09:52.57 | CIA-4 | gpsdrive_2.10pre2.bb: |
| 09:52.57 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:11.47 | reenoo | morning |
| 10:13.36 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.48 | reenoo | hey hrw|work |
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| 10:24.03 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 10:24.18 | gremlin[it] | handhelds.org have problem ? |
| 10:36.13 | koen | gremlin[it]: yes |
| 10:36.50 | mallum | RP, hi |
| 10:37.09 | mallum | RP, it would seem the 2.6 fb is approx 20% slower than the 2.4 one :/ |
| 10:37.30 | gremlin[it] | thank koen |
| 10:39.44 | gremlin[it] | there is a wev interface (ala webcvs) to acesss bitkeeper structure ? i would download only a couple of files |
| 10:40.21 | koen | yes |
| 10:40.27 | koen | openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 10:40.43 | gremlin[it] | thanks :) |
| 10:41.23 | koen | opie build fails, too lazy to investigate |
| 10:41.37 | gremlin[it] | i notice iestarday night i can lean how to customize images comparing gpe-image with gpe-sectest-image :) |
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| 10:50.54 | gremlin[it] | mhhh no way to download raw file ... :( |
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| 10:52.23 | koen | 'morning mickeyl |
| 10:54.43 | reenoo | heh |
| 10:55.46 | RP | mallum: :-( |
| 10:55.54 | RP | mallum: how were you testing that? |
| 10:56.20 | RP | Morning all btw :) |
| 10:56.40 | mallum | RP, I have some little hacks that meassure bandwidth to fb, X etc |
| 10:57.43 | RP | mallum: For most of the framebuffer functions, we defer to the standard fb software functions so I doubt the w100fb is at fault :-/ |
| 10:58.08 | RP | The only thing it could be is the changed resolution |
| 10:58.18 | RP | Did you try setting fastclk to 100? |
| 10:59.55 | mallum | RP, how do I do that ? |
| 10:59.55 | RP | mallum: try echo 100 > /sys/devices/platform/sharp-scoop/corig-ssp/w100fb/fastsysclk |
| 10:59.59 | mallum | RP, okey |
| 11:01.24 | mallum | RP, yep much better |
| 11:01.40 | RP | improved over 2.4? |
| 11:01.51 | mallum | RP, 14081 KB/Sec vs 12000 KB/sec |
| 11:02.11 | RP | That looks like a decent improvement :) |
| 11:02.14 | mallum | RP, about the same as 2.4 now |
| 11:02.24 | RP | I wish we had the docs for the w100... |
| 11:02.33 | RP | Then we could try its acceleration functions... |
| 11:02.55 | mallum | yeah indeed |
| 11:03.31 | XorA | someone needs to kick the PocketDivX people to accidently let a copy slip |
| 11:03.33 | RP | There is a driver in hh.org that accesses some of the acceleration. We use external memory though so I don't know how things compare |
| 11:03.51 | RP | XorA: Know anyone on good terms with them? :) |
| 11:04.10 | XorA | RP: I just saw a post on a forum somewhere where one of them said they had it under NDA |
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| 11:04.49 | RP | XorA: If anyone could let me see a copy, I'd probably sort out the linux driver... |
| 11:05.03 | RP | I've tried to get one with no joy... |
| 11:05.05 | XorA | RP: That would be very cool, but I have no contacts |
| 11:05.28 | RP | For that, neither have I :-( |
| 11:06.51 | mallum | RP, there is binary only ati lib in mplayer in oe |
| 11:07.32 | mallum | RP, cacko people have a X server that uses that for some accel |
| 11:07.35 | mallum | RP, what does fastsysclk do btw ? |
| 11:08.19 | RP | mallum: binary only is no use. We need docs :-( |
| 11:08.36 | RP | fastsysclk changes the system clock on the w100 from 75Mhz to 100Mhz |
| 11:09.04 | RP | You usually need it when running 640x480. The 2.4 series only uses 480x640 |
| 11:09.14 | RP | (but fudges rotation) |
| 11:09.22 | mickeyl | morning |
| 11:09.25 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 11:09.27 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 11:09.46 | mallum | RP, okey |
| 11:09.49 | hrw|work | mickeyl: I will repeat myself... opie bugs 1538-1540.... |
| 11:09.58 | mallum | RP, are you in UK btw ? |
| 11:10.06 | XorA | RP: so your fb actually physically does rotation? |
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| 11:11.00 | pb_ | hi mickey |
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| 11:11.42 | pb_ | RP: I imagine it would be easy enough to reverse engineer the w100's 2d acceleration functions by looking at what the ati library does. |
| 11:12.24 | mallum | the cacko people dissasembled it I think |
| 11:12.59 | mickeyl | hrw|work: yeah. i looked |
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| 11:13.13 | hrw|work | mithro tweaked it to produce soft-float version |
| 11:13.13 | mickeyl | hrw|work: i'm not into PIM though |
| 11:13.15 | mickeyl | no idea how to fix |
| 11:13.20 | mickeyl | pester zecke and harlekin |
| 11:13.33 | hrw|work | mickeyl: can you atleast confirm them? |
| 11:13.37 | RP | mallum: Where would I find the disassembly? |
| 11:13.42 | mickeyl | yes, i can do that |
| 11:14.02 | hrw|work | mickeyl: great |
| 11:14.33 | mallum | RP, I have it somewhere |
| 11:14.45 | RP | mallum: Yes, I'm in the UK |
| 11:15.10 | RP | XorA: Yes, the w100 now does physical rotation. No console hacks |
| 11:15.27 | XorA | RP: awesome, that will make mplayer a dream on 2.6 kernel |
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| 11:21.48 | Bernardo | am I going crazy? I have a 32Mb CF card, formatted VFAT, with initrd.bin and zImage files. When I try to flash my collie, only the kernel gets flashed... :( Any idea what am doing wrong? I thought it might be I had the name for initrd.bin wrong, but I've checked a few times. |
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| 11:22.09 | mickeyl | can't see what you're doing wrong |
| 11:22.14 | mickeyl | maybe the card is borken |
| 11:22.50 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3077 10openembedded/ (19 files in 3 dirs): Added a kernel for the Sharp SL-C3000 just because I could... |
| 11:23.11 | Bernardo | I'll try copying the files to my w2k machine, reformatting the card and I'll try again... |
| 11:23.32 | Bernardo | I'm out of luck with memory cards... yesterday my sd card, now my cf card... |
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| 11:27.29 | Bernardo | whre should I buy a new sd card? I'm wary of buying from a singapore shop in ebay... I'd rather find a european shop that ships all over europe |
| 11:28.50 | hrw|work | locally I can get kingston ones only |
| 11:30.45 | Bernardo | bigpockets has a ultra x60 1Gb card, don't know if it is any good |
| 11:32.15 | XorA | Bernardo: Ive got reliable ones from ebay from a new york store |
| 11:36.20 | Bernardo | XorA: my problem is that if customs intercepts a delivery, I'd pay almost as much as the value of the card |
| 11:37.00 | XorA | Bernardo: do you not have a customs limit in your country? |
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| 11:38.12 | Bernardo | yes, but it is low, and the customs officers are somewhat above the law |
| 11:38.41 | Bernardo | there are cases where they kept dvd packages so that more would arrive for the same person and the total would be above the limit |
| 11:39.19 | hrw|work | ~change 32 gpb to pln |
| 11:39.32 | hrw|work | ~change 32 gbp to pln |
| 11:39.36 | XorA | hmm, the new opie with keymap patch makes the arrow keys the wrong way round |
| 11:39.50 | hrw|work | too expensive for me |
| 11:41.07 | mickeyl | XorA: which device, which version of patch? |
| 11:41.39 | XorA | mickeyl: husky, patch as of lunchtime yesterday |
| 11:41.58 | mickeyl | oh |
| 11:42.01 | mickeyl | odd |
| 11:42.17 | XorA | mickeyl: do I just need to rebuild libqte2 to make sure? |
| 11:42.25 | mickeyl | yes |
| 11:42.40 | mickeyl | i can't imagine why it should be vice versa |
| 11:42.55 | XorA | left right, is up down |
| 11:43.11 | XorA | as though it doesnt know the correct rotation |
| 11:44.18 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 11:44.22 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 11:44.38 | mickeyl | it worked on my last image |
| 11:44.45 | mickeyl | so i suspect something in the kernel keymap |
| 11:44.56 | mickeyl | because that's the only differences since friday |
| 11:45.14 | mickeyl | i'm taking a look when i'm home |
| 11:52.42 | Bernardo | hrw|work: what was that one? |
| 11:52.52 | Bernardo | 512Mb? |
| 11:53.31 | hrw|work | yep |
| 11:54.01 | Bernardo | I was looking at 1Gb, as they aren't that much over 512Mb in price |
| 11:54.16 | hrw|work | 512 kingston can get for 158pln |
| 11:54.38 | Bernardo | time to go, english exam.. |
| 11:54.43 | hrw|work | Secure Digital 512MB Kingston High-Speed SD/512-S is 181 pln |
| 11:54.48 | hrw|work | Bernardo: good luck |
| 11:54.52 | Bernardo | ~change 56 gbp to pln |
| 11:55.10 | Bernardo | that one on bickpockets is 56 for the 1Gb card |
| 11:55.33 | Bernardo | bigpockets |
| 11:55.36 | Bernardo | ~change 56 gbp to eur |
| 11:57.03 | XorA | someone needs to do a bk mvdir uicmoc-native-2.3.10-snapshot-20050120 uicmoc-native-2.3.10-snapshot-20050131 |
| 12:02.15 | hrw|work | XorA: it was done afaik |
| 12:02.34 | hrw|work | a.. dir.. |
| 12:02.59 | hrw|work | will do |
| 12:03.05 | hrw|work | XorA: btw - you can do it also |
| 12:04.03 | XorA | hrw|work: I dont want to mess with qt stuff :-) |
| 12:05.26 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07 * r1.3076.2.1 10openembedded/packages/uicmoc/uicmoc-native-2.3.10-snapshot-20050131/ (gcc3_4.patch fix-makefile.patch): renamed uicmoc 2.3.10 patches dir |
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| 12:27.02 | XorA | am I right in thinking on clamshells you can update only the kernel by missing the initrd.bin off the card? |
| 12:29.06 | hrw|work | XorA: I thinkt that it is possible on every zaurus |
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| 12:32.45 | Bernardo|exam | XorA: That is what is happening on my collie as it isn't recognizing the initrd.bin on the cf card for some reason |
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| 12:49.07 | suix | hi again |
| 12:49.58 | suix | why bit bake takes a lot of ram when it's handling bitbake files¿¿¿ |
| 12:50.10 | hrw|work | because it takes a lot of ram |
| 12:50.16 | suix | it can use near 500+ mb's |
| 12:50.30 | hrw|work | over 500MiB on x86 and more on x86-464 |
| 12:50.35 | koen | ~bbcow |
| 12:50.48 | ibot | it has been said that bbcow is a couple patches for bitbake and openembedded to use copy-on-write for the metadata handling. It greatly reduces memory consumption. Get them at http://www.frankengul.org/~seb/cowbb/. |
| 12:50.48 | hrw|work | suix: how much mem you have? |
| 12:50.48 | suix | 512 |
| 12:50.53 | koen | suix: you could try those patches |
| 12:51.01 | hrw|work | suix: disable psyco |
| 12:51.06 | suix | psyco¿ |
| 12:51.35 | suix | but when I rerun bitbake after doing this handling it stops near 93% |
| 12:51.45 | suix | when ram has run out |
| 12:52.05 | suix | and it begins taking swap memory... |
| 12:52.27 | hrw|work | suix: we know it - bitbake-ng will take less mem |
| 12:52.33 | suix | then I have to erase tmp dir in order to have bitbake running |
| 12:53.02 | suix | ok |
| 12:53.05 | hrw|work | suix: now you can disable psyco (~200MiB) |
| 12:53.28 | suix | but how? |
| 12:53.45 | suix | with -d |
| 12:53.46 | suix | ok |
| 12:53.47 | suix | xD |
| 12:54.28 | suix | another thing is that it can't find qt-embedded-2.3.10-snapshot-20050120.tar.gz |
| 12:55.05 | XorA | suix: update, oe has upgraded since then |
| 12:55.37 | suix | but I've downloaded the last snapshot |
| 12:55.57 | koen | shapshot can lag a day or two |
| 12:56.24 | suix | ok |
| 12:56.30 | suix | I'll use the gpe |
| 12:56.32 | suix | :) |
| 12:57.11 | koen | pb_: how often is the bk->cvs synced nowadays? |
| 13:11.10 | pb_ | koen: irregularly |
| 13:13.07 | koen | that's what I thought |
| 13:13.17 | koen | any chance of making a cronjob of it? |
| 13:13.54 | pb_ | not on handhelds.org, since cronjobs are disabled. |
| 13:14.20 | pb_ | you'd be welcome to set up a cron job on your own machine, though |
| 13:14.50 | koen | ah |
| 13:23.14 | XorA | how big is a snapshot? |
| 13:23.26 | koen | 130MB uncompressed |
| 13:23.54 | koen | if it's a tarball of a oe tree |
| 13:24.04 | XorA | ws more wondering compressed size |
| 13:24.09 | koen | 11MB |
| 13:24.25 | XorA | Id be willing to cron that, my machine is on all nigth anyway |
| 13:24.28 | koen | see http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/ |
| 13:34.01 | suix | but I wonder why bitbake takes that amount of ram |
| 13:34.33 | suix | is it because it's written in python? |
| 13:34.41 | hrw|work | suix: it keep base.bbclass for each package, autotools for each autotools etc.. |
| 13:35.38 | XorA | suix: from what people have said it uses a data structure that didn't scale well when applied to larger and larger repositories, bbcow makes a huge improvement on memory footprint though |
| 13:35.46 | koen | suix: use bbcow and it will consume less RAM |
| 13:36.09 | suix | ok |
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| 13:40.10 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:45.56 | siddy | hi guys, can anybody help me with a problem with libc6-dev? |
| 13:46.21 | siddy | my /usr/lib/libc6.so just contains the text: |
| 13:46.44 | siddy | *** BUG in libc/scripts/output-format.sed *** elf32-bigarm,elf32-littlearm |
| 13:46.49 | siddy | GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a ) |
| 13:47.19 | siddy | (meat /usr/lib/libc.so of course) |
| 13:47.28 | siddy | s/meat/meant/ |
| 13:47.31 | siddy | any hints? |
| 13:47.52 | msw | siddy: just remove everything but the GROUP line |
| 13:48.16 | msw | siddy: you also need an OUTPUT_FORMAT line though |
| 13:48.34 | msw | OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-littlearm) |
| 13:48.56 | siddy | k, thx, I'll give it a try |
| 13:49.10 | msw | siddy: how did you build it? |
| 13:50.26 | siddy | it was created during the build of an openslug-image via openembedded. |
| 13:52.09 | siddy | damn... linking against libc still doesn't work. :-( |
| 13:52.54 | msw | siddy: are you running on the target? |
| 13:53.30 | siddy | yes |
| 13:54.44 | msw | siddy: hmm, the NSLU2 runs big endian |
| 13:54.52 | msw | siddy: so you want bigarm |
| 13:55.33 | siddy | yeah, I know, I added "OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-bigarm)" to libc.so, but it didn't help. |
| 13:55.45 | msw | siddy: what error do you get> |
| 13:57.23 | siddy | msw: when the compilation comes to the linking process, I get an "init.c: undefined reference to `__libc_csu_fini'" |
| 13:57.34 | siddy | looks to me as if libc wasn't found at all. |
| 13:58.17 | siddy | ah, I re-added the GROUP-line, works now! |
| 13:58.30 | msw | siddy: right, the group line is critical |
| 13:58.50 | msw | "remove everything but the GROUP line" |
| 13:58.55 | msw | _but_ ;-) |
| 13:58.56 | siddy | oh, I missed the "everything but" part of your posting... ;-) |
| 13:59.05 | siddy | lol, tzhanks for your help! |
| 13:59.19 | msw | siddy: but something definately borked in the glibc build |
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| 13:59.33 | msw | siddy: like it wasn't configured properly for the target |
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| 14:00.08 | siddy | yeah, looks like there's some problem for bigarm-targets, I read a redhat-bugreport on the same problem somewhere |
| 14:14.07 | hrw|work | re mickeyl |
| 14:19.11 | Bernardo | been out checking SD prices... 55 eur for 512Mb on local shops |
| 14:24.15 | hrw|work | berlios.de doesnt have mirrors? |
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| 14:33.02 | cedric | ERROR: log data follows (/home/cedric/oe/build/tmp/work/faad2-2.0-r0/temp/log.do |
| 14:33.02 | cedric | _patchcmd.22749) |
| 14:33.02 | cedric | | The quilt meta-data in .pc/ are already in the version 2 format; nothing to do |
| 14:33.02 | cedric | | chmod: cannot access `patches/*': No such file or directory |
| 14:33.02 | cedric | | Importing patch /home/cedric/oe/openembedded/packages/faad2/faad2-2.0/Makefile |
| 14:33.03 | cedric | .patch (stored as Makefile) |
| 14:33.05 | cedric | | Applying patch Makefile |
| 14:33.07 | cedric | | patching file Makefile.am |
| 14:33.09 | cedric | | Hunk #1 FAILED at 1. |
| 14:33.11 | cedric | | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file Makefile.am |
| 14:33.13 | cedric | | Patch Makefile does not apply (enforce with -f) |
| 14:33.30 | koen | hmmm |
| 14:33.41 | koen | I just built faad2 15 minutes ago |
| 14:34.01 | hrw|work | cedric: update sources |
| 14:34.58 | koen | also note that the patch has to be in DOS format |
| 14:35.59 | Bernardo | What is the biggest size for a initrd.bin for a collie? |
| 14:36.12 | hrw|work | ~14.4MiB |
| 14:36.51 | Bernardo | The one I built last night is 15039260 bytes, I was thinking it might not be flashing because of excessive size |
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| 14:37.10 | hrw|work | exactly |
| 14:37.25 | hrw|work | 14680064 is correct size |
| 14:37.53 | Bernardo | thanks, I found the root of the problem now... |
| 14:39.06 | cedric | koen: done a "bk pull" and nothing related to faad2 |
| 14:39.13 | Bernardo | I need to check, but I think I built a standard opie-image |
| 14:42.34 | RP | People mentioned a disassembly of the ati library earlier. Does anyone have any tips on where I might find the results of anyone who's tried this before? |
| 14:42.57 | hrw|work | http://cacko.biz/ maybe? |
| 14:43.02 | koen | RP: ask mallum |
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| 14:45.20 | XorA | http://mirror1.pdaxrom.org/source/src/AtiCore-1.0.1.tar.bz2 possibly |
| 14:46.47 | pb_ | RP: it might be easier to just write a bit of code to monitor the register writes that the library does in response to different requests. |
| 14:46.47 | XorA | yes, that seems to be assembly source |
| 14:48.16 | [g2] | I've pivot_root'd and chrooted onto my hd from my jffs2 partition, but I see this when I run lsof /oldroot |
| 14:48.54 | [g2] | root@nslu2:/# lsof /oldroot |
| 14:48.54 | [g2] | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 14:48.54 | [g2] | init 1 root txt REG 31,4 29236 422 /oldroot/sbin/init.sysvinit |
| 14:48.54 | [g2] | init 1 root mem REG 31,4 89044 333 /oldroot/lib/ld-2.3.3.so ... |
| 14:49.14 | [g2] | there are two other shared lib |
| 14:49.29 | [g2] | Is there some way to free that ? |
| 14:49.53 | [g2] | or do I need to be in a /linuxrc ? |
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| 14:57.39 | CosmicPenguin | [g2]: yeah, to avoid that, a linuxrc your best bet - one the shell is execed into the init after the pivot root, you should lose all links back to the oldroot |
| 14:58.09 | [g2] | CP thx |
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| 15:13.58 | cedric | koen: same problem with faad2 |
| 15:19.59 | koen | cedric: I don't know what could be wrong |
| 15:20.09 | koen | it builds for me |
| 15:23.29 | cedric | koen: it's just the Makefile patch which is failing... |
| 15:26.21 | hrw|work | fails for me too |
| 15:28.26 | hrw|work | koen: that patch is really needed? |
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| 15:28.53 | koen | hrw|work: yes |
| 15:29.01 | cedric | hrw|work: faad2? |
| 15:29.07 | koen | but the patch *needs* to be in DOS format |
| 15:29.21 | koen | I guess your bk is converting that to unix line endings |
| 15:29.35 | hrw|work | cedric: faad2 |
| 15:30.35 | koen | I know it works since I pushed from my commit repo, and bk pulled from bkbits in my build repo |
| 15:34.14 | Bernardo|meeting | brb |
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| 15:47.04 | treke|home | I wonder how much longer gints posts will keep arriving |
| 15:47.40 | pb_ | heh |
| 15:48.20 | hrw|work | they have misc msgid? |
| 15:48.22 | pb_ | some people are never happy. first he complains that he can't post, and then he complains that he can't stop posting |
| 15:51.06 | [g2] | Has anyone else seen the uclibc-0.9.27-r0: task do_configure: started munching up disk space ? |
| 15:53.20 | hrw|work | [g2]: your defconfig is too old - regenerate it by hand |
| 15:55.52 | [g2] | hrw|work, the defconfig in the repo is old right :) |
| 15:56.16 | hrw|work | [g2]: regenerate it and push |
| 15:56.51 | [g2] | I can push to nslu2-linux but not oe-devel |
| 15:57.22 | hrw|work | send it to OE ML or uclibc maintainer |
| 15:58.33 | RP | pb_: You may well be right. That might be the better way to work out what the registers do... |
| 16:01.58 | hrw|work | mickeyl: ping |
| 16:02.37 | emte | plonk |
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| 16:05.04 | suix | hi guys |
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| 16:06.16 | suix | Do I have to do any special thing if I'm going to use a 2.6 kernel? |
| 16:06.34 | koen | suix: on what device? |
| 16:06.49 | suix | ipaq h1900 |
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| 16:06.59 | suix | I mean when I'm compiling familiar |
| 16:07.03 | koen | use ipaq-pxa-2.6 |
| 16:07.12 | koen | as MACHINE |
| 16:07.13 | suix | for exemple now I was compiling mod-utils |
| 16:07.18 | koen | that should do it |
| 16:07.51 | suix | ok |
| 16:07.51 | koen | suix: what is your MACHINE in local.conf? |
| 16:07.58 | suix | 1 sec |
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| 16:11.39 | suix | # MACHINE = "collie" |
| 16:11.42 | suix | xD |
| 16:11.43 | suix | lol |
| 16:13.05 | suix | I'm coming now |
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| 16:19.46 | pb_ | RP: I see the aticore code from the pdaxrom site already comes with a demo program. It looks like it'd be easy enough to trick that up with mprotect() to watch what the driver is doing. |
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| 16:21.50 | RP | pb_: Is this the same code as in openembedded? |
| 16:22.11 | pb_ | dunno. let me have a look. |
| 16:22.15 | TyggerBob | The ${foo} variables aren't in play during the patching phase, are they? |
| 16:22.36 | pb_ | RP: what's the package name in oe? |
| 16:22.44 | pb_ | TyggerBob: in what context? |
| 16:22.46 | TyggerBob | to, say, patch a configure.in or makefile.in file |
| 16:23.03 | RP | pb_: sharp-binary-only/sharp-aticore.bb |
| 16:23.25 | XorA | RP: sharp-aticore-oss_1.0.1.bb surely? |
| 16:24.26 | TyggerBob | the configure script keeps putting /usr/include and /usr/local/include in front of CFLAGS, and it's finding the wrong header file. |
| 16:26.13 | RP | XorA: That looks even more interesting :) |
| 16:26.25 | TyggerBob | I tried this: |
| 16:26.25 | TyggerBob | CFLAGS_prepend = " -I${WORKDIR}/thcrut-${PV}/Libnet-1.0.2a/include " |
| 16:26.30 | TyggerBob | and that didn't work |
| 16:26.34 | TyggerBob | in my bb file |
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| 16:31.30 | suix | hi again |
| 16:34.11 | suix | how much time spends gpe-image in get compiled? |
| 16:34.28 | TyggerBob | how fast is your machine? |
| 16:34.47 | suix | it can run near 40 km/h |
| 16:34.54 | TyggerBob | lol |
| 16:34.56 | suix | xD |
| 16:34.56 | suix | :D |
| 16:35.04 | suix | is a amd 2400+ |
| 16:35.09 | TyggerBob | the building depends on your machine. |
| 16:35.15 | suix | with 512 ddr 400mhz |
| 16:35.24 | TyggerBob | it took me over a day with my p3 450 |
| 16:35.34 | suix | so in some hours I'll finish |
| 16:35.36 | suix | :D |
| 16:36.16 | TyggerBob | yeah.. if you're building from scratch. |
| 16:36.21 | TyggerBob | the first build is the most painful. |
| 16:36.53 | suix | why? |
| 16:37.12 | koen|food | because it needs to build the cross toolchain and glib |
| 16:37.17 | koen|food | glibc* |
| 16:38.19 | TyggerBob | hrm.. is there a CPPFLAGS_prepend? |
| 16:38.45 | TyggerBob | like the CFLAGS_PREPEND? |
| 16:39.01 | suix | I remember when i made my first lfs on my coputer |
| 16:39.02 | suix | :D |
| 16:39.14 | suix | I spent a week compiling |
| 16:39.45 | suix | then a friend come ans said: - What a waste of time, do you know what is gentoo¿ |
| 16:40.11 | suix | lol |
| 16:40.38 | koen|food | except that with lfs you actually learn something |
| 16:40.48 | suix | yup |
| 16:40.52 | suix | I thanks lfs |
| 16:41.00 | suix | thank* |
| 16:41.40 | koen|food | any idiot can to 'emerge bla' and claim he's doing 'low-level' and 'optimized' system maintenance |
| 16:41.51 | koen|food | s/can/can claim/ |
| 16:42.39 | suix | it's so easy |
| 16:43.11 | suix | after I had installed lfs I installed gentoo |
| 16:43.13 | koen|food | (the only gentoo people I met in real life were the clueless ones, over the more cluefull seem to come over here) |
| 16:43.45 | suix | but having to compile every thing by hand it's a waste of time |
| 16:43.58 | suix | you learn a lot of things |
| 16:44.10 | suix | so it's a good tihing to do 1 or two times |
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| 16:50.51 | prpplague | ~seen beewoolie |
| 16:50.54 | ibot | beewoolie <~beewoolie@florence.buici.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 4d 12h 35m 3s ago, saying: 'It would be handy to have something a little easier to work with, something with look-ahead.'. |
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| 16:55.18 | koen|food | aargh |
| 16:56.02 | koen | I have a *strong* suspicion the build-stamp thing breaks multimachine builds |
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| 16:56.36 | koen | especially with things like sysvinit-inittab |
| 16:57.58 | koen | what's the fastest way to disable build stamps? |
| 17:03.05 | pb_ | do_build[nostamp] = 1 |
| 17:03.50 | koen | in local.conf? |
| 17:03.51 | pb_ | yeah, it probably does break multi-machine builds. I guess you should factor ${PACKAGE_ARCH} into the stamp filenames. |
| 17:03.55 | pb_ | yes, in local.conf |
| 17:03.59 | koen | cool |
| 17:05.01 | koen | pb_: like STAMP = "${TMPDIR}/stamps/${PACKAGE_ARCH}-${HOST_OS}/${PF}" |
| 17:05.02 | koen | ? |
| 17:05.46 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:06.26 | koen | I guess that doesn't take care of machine-independant packages (like sysvinit) that generate machine-dependant packages (like sysvinit-inittab) |
| 17:06.34 | pb_ | ah, right, yeah |
| 17:06.42 | pb_ | tslib does that too. |
| 17:06.48 | koen | I know! |
| 17:06.50 | pb_ | I can't think of any way to work around that particular problem |
| 17:07.07 | koen | bitbake -c clean tslib sysvinit before each build |
| 17:07.39 | pb_ | well, yeah, I meant an automated workaround |
| 17:08.03 | pb_ | even making do_build nostamp wouldn't help there, since do_package{_ipk} would still be stamped. |
| 17:08.05 | koen | ah yes |
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| 17:20.55 | dave-osk | So do we have a working 'bitbake qte' yet? yesterday it tried to download two different snapshots: |
| 17:21.06 | dave-osk | one with a datestamp, one without. the first worked. |
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| 17:31.16 | kergoth | koen, pb_: the problem is the dichotomy of PACKAGE_ARCH behavior. setting those vars for a multimachine build assumes that PACKAGE_ARCH is about the _source_ package (.bb), whereas the PACKAGE_ARCH var is interpreted elsewhere as the _binary_ package. |
| 17:31.49 | kergoth | itd be pretty easy to fix by adding a new variable for the build arch, which checks all its subpackages for package_arch != machine_arch |
| 17:32.07 | koen | ah, I see |
| 17:32.12 | kergoth | s/for the build arch/for the .bb that specifies whether it is machien specific or not/ |
| 17:35.00 | treke | mornin kergoth |
| 17:35.06 | kergoth | hey |
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| 17:37.59 | treke | how did your meeting go? |
| 17:38.09 | kergoth | the presentation isnt till 2 |
| 17:38.12 | treke | ah |
| 17:38.24 | kergoth | i decided to just focus on an intro to copyright, copyleft, licensing, the gpl, and community interaction |
| 17:38.25 | treke | wisely scheduled by your boss at a time you can't possibly miss |
| 17:38.31 | kergoth | indeed |
| 17:43.14 | kergoth | here's hoping i dont run out of shit to say |
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| 17:46.20 | TyggerBob | is there any easy way to be able to put a SRI like this in a .bb file: |
| 17:46.25 | TyggerBob | http://www.thc.org/download.php?t=r&f=hydra-4.5-src.tar.gz |
| 17:46.39 | TyggerBob | It just downloads the php and not the tarball |
| 17:47.54 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07 * r1.3080 10openembedded/packages/thcrut/ (thcrut_1.2.5.bb thcrut-1.2.5/configure_in.patch): Add thcrut-1.2.5 as provided by Bob Davies |
| 17:48.55 | TyggerBob | actually, for that one, it doesn't seem to matter, hydra-4.5 is already in there.. |
| 17:49.02 | TyggerBob | someone snuck it in when I wasn't looking :) |
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| 17:57.14 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:58.25 | TyggerBob | kergoth: other than the stuff above, what's the gist of the meeting? |
| 17:58.57 | kergoth | there is no gist. i was never given exact guidelines for what i should be presenting |
| 17:59.04 | kergoth | only that it should gover the gpl |
| 17:59.26 | kergoth | i have the impression that this presentation is more a "lets prove taht chris actually does have some value to the company" than anything else. |
| 17:59.37 | kergoth | (since my performance at work has been down for some time) |
| 17:59.58 | TyggerBob | Ahhhh |
| 18:00.13 | TyggerBob | well. good luck.. hope it goes well. |
| 18:00.32 | kergoth | heh. no worries, its not like my job is on the line or anything |
| 18:02.57 | treke | cool. the new debian installer can configure LVM |
| 18:03.40 | TyggerBob | if someone has a spare minute, could you do me a favour and do a bk pull and bitbake thcrut? |
| 18:03.50 | TyggerBob | it's working for me, but not for koen. |
| 18:04.01 | TyggerBob | I'd like to try to narrow down the problem. |
| 18:04.13 | koen | it worked, otherwise it wouldn't be in |
| 18:04.26 | treke | it worked for whoever put it in |
| 18:04.48 | treke | that doesn't mean it wont fail for others |
| 18:05.07 | TyggerBob | ok |
| 18:05.31 | koen | treke: it put it in after testing it, but I can't rebuild after pull |
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| 18:12.01 | dave-osk | I just confirmed that with current oe BK metadata, "bitbake qte" still fails (when trying for a non-timestamped version of qte libs) |
| 18:14.46 | kergoth | hrm |
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| 18:20.32 | koen | mickeyl: wb |
| 18:20.48 | mickeyl | hi |
| 18:21.31 | treke | mornin m dawg |
| 18:21.54 | kergoth | hey mickeyl |
| 18:22.03 | treke | I suppose that loses something when it crosses the atlantic |
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| 18:45.48 | Cwiiis | openzaurus-spitz...? |
| 18:47.12 | treke | spitz is the sl3000 iirc |
| 18:47.37 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 18:47.39 | mickeyl | i was bored |
| 18:47.46 | mickeyl | so i added its kernel and a machine conf |
| 18:47.49 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 18:47.56 | kergoth | heh, cool |
| 18:48.01 | mickeyl | maybe now someone likes to pick that up |
| 18:48.17 | kergoth | people really dont realize how little work it is to get a new machine rolling |
| 18:49.34 | koen | they will after mickeyl's talk :) |
| 18:49.41 | mickeyl | right |
| 18:49.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:49.46 | mickeyl | on fosdem i will show the |
| 18:49.46 | mickeyl | m |
| 18:49.53 | Cwiiis | I dunno, going from a no-experience position to a position where you know enough to be able to do that doesn't seem like so little work to me... |
| 18:49.58 | Cwiiis | mickeyl: Cool :) |
| 18:50.03 | kergoth | put your presentation stuff up somehwere, i think we need to do a better job of getting together our "marketing materials", training info, etc |
| 18:50.22 | mickeyl | yeah will do |
| 18:50.25 | mickeyl | i need to start on it soon |
| 18:50.30 | mickeyl | trying not to do everything last minute |
| 18:50.32 | mickeyl | (as always) |
| 18:51.16 | koen | is there a bitbake logo yet? |
| 18:51.25 | kergoth | Cwiiis: the work is little. wrapping your head around oe and bitbake conceptually can be more difficult, depending on the person |
| 18:51.26 | mickeyl | no, not yet |
| 18:54.54 | kergoth | need a minimal bitbake website. |
| 18:57.14 | koen|afk | bbl |
| 19:06.39 | treke | the topic should also have a link to download bitbake |
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| 19:17.48 | Cwiiis | kergoth: mm - But you can't really compare resultant work with the effort required... heh, reminds me of my Scheme coursework - 6 hours for 12 lines of code :p |
| 19:19.25 | kergoth | well, the benefits are huge once you've got that understanding, over time |
| 19:22.28 | kergoth | i think we'll get a nice boost in userbase once bitbake-ng releases, due primarily to performance |
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| 19:26.30 | Cwiiis | ditto :) |
| 19:32.45 | Cwiiis | kergoth: What's your job? (if you don't mind me asking) |
| 19:35.01 | RP | kergoth: I wish I could help :-/ |
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| 19:35.44 | kergoth | Cwiiis: 2.6 linux driver development on OMAP boards |
| 19:37.10 | zecke | hey |
| 19:37.26 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Sounds kinda interesting... hehe |
| 19:37.30 | Cwiiis | hey zecke |
| 19:37.40 | kergoth | it isnt bad, but it tends to be just churning drivers out day afuter day, and most are just like the rest |
| 19:37.48 | kergoth | no real interesting design, just a code monkey |
| 19:37.53 | kergoth | doesnt fit me well |
| 19:38.26 | Cwiiis | ah, no, that doesn't sound as interesting as it did initially |
| 19:38.43 | kergoth | occasionally there'll be something new, but they're few and far between |
| 19:38.47 | kergoth | not much core kernel work, mostly drivers |
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| 19:38.51 | kergoth | ah well |
| 19:39.15 | Cwiiis | I hope the situation improves :/ |
| 19:39.24 | kergoth | thanks |
| 19:39.34 | kergoth | now, to figure out if i have a digital projector in the conference room i'm presenting in |
| 19:39.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:43.18 | koen | ~spell transperencies |
| 19:43.19 | ibot | possible spellings for transperencies: transparencies transparency's transference's |
| 19:46.09 | RP | My handwriting used to make for interesting overheads :) |
| 19:47.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:47.18 | kergoth | yeah, i think i'd rather they actually understand it |
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| 20:12.54 | gremlin[it] | good evening to alll |
| 20:13.06 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 20:14.05 | gremlin[it] | what's up ? |
| 20:14.51 | gremlin[it] | what kind of machine is 'spitz' ? |
| 20:15.02 | koen | an new zaurus |
| 20:15.07 | koen | sl a300 iirc |
| 20:15.12 | gremlin[it] | slc-3000 ? |
| 20:15.16 | gremlin[it] | ah no ... |
| 20:15.27 | koen | something with a 3 |
| 20:20.48 | zecke | http://www.freehackers.org/kvim/screenshots.html |
| 20:20.49 | zecke | oh |
| 20:20.53 | gremlin[it] | yes SL-A300 ... i'm looking ar ezaurus.com |
| 20:22.15 | gremlin[it] | bleaaaaa :) :) :) :) :) |
| 20:27.23 | koen | bbl |
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| 20:42.58 | gremlin[it] | bbl ??? what mean |
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| 20:49.07 | RP | gremlin[it]: bbl = be back later |
| 20:49.27 | gremlin[it] | thanks ! |
| 20:49.30 | RP | Hmmm. The aticore lib doesn't work under 2.6... |
| 20:50.44 | gints | france: I removed myself from list already.. |
| 20:50.44 | gremlin[it] | would like to have an ati to test :) |
| 20:50.52 | gints | may be it is not enoght ..... |
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| 21:07.36 | zecke | gints: hey |
| 21:07.54 | gints | hey zecke |
| 21:18.55 | treke | hey zecke |
| 21:19.02 | treke | zecke: doesn't opie-mail do news? |
| 21:29.01 | TyggerBob | is there a trick to specifying library locations when you're not using autotools? |
| 21:31.00 | zecke | ah news as in usenet? |
| 21:31.14 | TyggerBob | I'm trying this: |
| 21:31.15 | TyggerBob | CFLAGS = " -I${WORKDIR}/bluesnarfer/include -I${STAGING_INCDIR} " |
| 21:31.15 | TyggerBob | LDFLAGS = " -L${STAGING_LIBDIR} " |
| 21:31.59 | treke | zecke: is there another news? :p |
| 21:32.09 | kergoth | TyggerBob: we already set a sane CFLAGS and LDFLAGS, bts |
| 21:32.20 | kergoth | CFLAGS =+ "-I${WORKDIR}/bluesnarfer/include" would probably be sufficient |
| 21:32.25 | kergoth | but how you pass those variables into its buildsystem varies. |
| 21:32.34 | kergoth | so the presentation went alright |
| 21:32.44 | kergoth | met a guy here that hacks on gnome some |
| 21:33.01 | TyggerBob | Good to hear |
| 21:33.59 | mickey|tv | zecke: can you run your opie upgrade script please? |
| 21:34.00 | TyggerBob | kergoth: the problem I'm having is that it doesn't seem to be finding the bluetooth libraries in .../armlinux/lib |
| 21:34.08 | mickey|tv | zecke: I'll tag in 1.5 h |
| 21:34.12 | kergoth | TyggerBob: is that -L actually used on its link line? |
| 21:34.19 | kergoth | TyggerBob: you need to confirm that its actually being used by the buildsystem. |
| 21:34.23 | kergoth | TyggerBob: read its makefiles |
| 21:35.26 | zecke | mickey|tv: I still miss the _cvs renaming in the script |
| 21:35.35 | zecke | mickey|tv: would that be ok? (once again) |
| 21:35.53 | RP | How do stop oe from striping files? |
| 21:35.53 | mickey|tv | zecke: sure, i can do that manually |
| 21:36.10 | zecke | mickey|tv: I can do that tomorrow then |
| 21:36.16 | zecke | mickey|tv: ok I'll run the script now |
| 21:36.23 | kergoth | RP: read local.conf.sample. |
| 21:36.29 | TyggerBob | kergoth: it's just using -lbluetooth |
| 21:36.32 | TyggerBob | http://pastebin.ca/5177 |
| 21:36.35 | mickey|tv | RP: INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" |
| 21:36.43 | kergoth | TyggerBob: that isnt what i asked. |
| 21:36.54 | mickey|tv | zecke: thanks |
| 21:37.31 | RP | kergoth: Thanks. I'd not remembered that was there (and thanks mickey|tv :) |
| 21:37.51 | TyggerBob | you mean when I do the bitbake? |
| 21:38.17 | kergoth | 16:20 < kergoth> TyggerBob: is that -L actually used on its link line? |
| 21:38.28 | koen | TyggerBob: use -D -D -D -D |
| 21:38.42 | kergoth | TyggerBob: are you overriding EXTRA_OEMAKE? |
| 21:38.45 | kergoth | TyggerBob: you should not be |
| 21:38.55 | kergoth | TyggerBob: and make sure you add -lbluetooth to oe's LDFLAGS |
| 21:39.05 | TyggerBob | not that I'm aware of |
| 21:39.06 | TyggerBob | ok |
| 21:39.11 | kergoth | you dont need to mangle CFLAGS |
| 21:39.27 | kergoth | it handles that in INC, notCFLAGS |
| 21:39.31 | kergoth | so it doesnt get overridden by us |
| 21:41.42 | TyggerBob | got it... |
| 21:41.51 | TyggerBob | ibot: emulate Tyggerbob |
| 21:41.52 | ibot | how do you set the emulate thingy? |
| 21:42.01 | TyggerBob | hrm. I thought I'd reset that |
| 21:42.04 | joshua_ | 'emulate me' also works |
| 21:42.29 | TyggerBob | ibot: ~emulate Tyggerbob |
| 21:42.31 | ibot | "hrm.. I seem to have a problem compiling this.. err.. wait.. I fixed it.. Thanks Chris" |
| 21:42.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:42.42 | kergoth | you put ~ into the factoid |
| 21:42.50 | kergoth | when you do ibot: you dont need ~ |
| 21:42.56 | TyggerBob | ahh |
| 21:43.05 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.27 | kergoth | ~forget ~emulate TyggerBob |
| 21:44.27 | ibot | i didn't have anything called '~emulate tyggerbob ' to forget, kergoth |
| 21:44.31 | kergoth | ~forget ~emulate TyggerBob |
| 21:44.31 | ibot | kergoth: i forgot ~emulate tyggerbob |
| 21:44.38 | gremlin[it] | good night to all |
| 21:44.42 | kergoth | night |
| 21:44.44 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 21:44.45 | ibot | ACTION hacks on bitbake, openembedded, openzaurus, and other projects and wields a mean cluebat. |
| 21:44.45 | koen | 'night |
| 21:44.52 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 21:44.52 | ibot | kergoth: thanks |
| 21:45.14 | zecke | mickey|tv: let us see how well that ran worked |
| 21:45.34 | TyggerBob | hehehe |
| 21:45.42 | TyggerBob | well. I thought I had it: |
| 21:45.43 | TyggerBob | NOTE: Not creating empty archive for bluesnarfer-1.0-r1 |
| 21:45.55 | kergoth | write a do_install. |
| 21:46.03 | kergoth | non-autotools, theres no standard installation |
| 21:46.06 | kergoth | so it doesnt provide one for you |
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| 21:50.16 | TyggerBob | had one, but it seems to be brokenn |
| 21:50.30 | kergoth | install -D ${D}/${bindir} |
| 21:50.41 | kergoth | install -m 0755 bluesnarfer ${D}/${bindir}/ |
| 21:50.43 | kergoth | there, done |
| 21:51.55 | TyggerBob | I was missing a } |
| 21:53.02 | TyggerBob | thanks |
| 21:53.32 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3083 10openembedded/packages/tslib/ (tslib_cvs.bb tslib/simpad/ts.conf): ts.conf/SIMpad: ship values that work a bit better |
| 21:53.34 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3082 10openembedded/packages/qte/ (5 files in 2 dirs): qte-2.3.10: rediff patches |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3081 10openembedded/packages/qte/ (qte_2.3.10-snapshot.bb qte-2.3.10-snapshot/simpad.patch): qte-2.3.10: apply the SIMpad patch all the time |
| 21:56.05 | kergoth | anyone looked at http://www.akcaagac.com/index_atlantis.html on a pda? we have gtk-webcore in.. |
| 21:56.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:00.20 | zecke | kergoth: atlantis with all its released files are fully copyrighted by me, Ali Akcaagac. |
| 22:00.24 | zecke | It's not allowed to re-use any components or files inside other projects |
| 22:00.26 | zecke | without written permission. |
| 22:00.27 | zecke | nice license |
| 22:00.29 | zecke | " |
| 22:00.29 | kergoth | bah |
| 22:00.54 | zecke | sorry for pasting |
| 22:01.08 | kergoth | bastards |
| 22:01.19 | kergoth | a small gtk-webcore based browser that works well would be a Good Thing |
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| 22:02.20 | zecke | that license is stupid, he builds on Free Software and works of others (KHTML... where I contributed as well (lim mycontribution = 0)) |
| 22:02.26 | zecke | but doesn't want to be part... |
| 22:02.52 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 22:02.57 | kergoth | yeah, that sucks |
| 22:03.02 | zecke | reenoo_: hi |
| 22:03.04 | kergoth | i mean, if you're a company wanting to sell it thats one thing |
| 22:03.31 | zecke | kergoth: can you even patch it, to fix a compile problem, or fix a crash? |
| 22:04.08 | koen | zecke: that's the same person who started the goneme project |
| 22:04.51 | zecke | koen: sorry I don't know the project, can you give me a link? |
| 22:05.01 | koen | http://www.goneme.org/ |
| 22:05.14 | zecke | ah first hit by google |
| 22:05.24 | koen | a gnome fork |
| 22:05.39 | zecke | gomean.org |
| 22:06.21 | kergoth | idiocy |
| 22:06.42 | kergoth | | mprintf.c:1137: error: parse error before "__extension__" |
| 22:06.43 | kergoth | eh |
| 22:06.45 | kergoth | when did curl break? |
| 22:07.00 | reenoo_ | are you guys talking about atlantis? |
| 22:07.12 | zecke | reenoo_: hehe yes |
| 22:07.26 | kergoth | yep |
| 22:08.09 | kergoth | ah, curl was failing for uclibc only |
| 22:08.38 | reenoo_ | yeah, ali's position on that one is a bit unfortunate indeed |
| 22:09.38 | kergoth | does osb-browser work on arm out of oe atm? |
| 22:09.57 | gints | latest OE built opie does not respond to stylus... |
| 22:10.08 | koen | as long as you don't load a url it should work fine |
| 22:10.13 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:10.26 | reenoo_ | kergoth: according to florian it does. it segfaults for me |
| 22:10.32 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:10.42 | reenoo_ | koen: same here |
| 22:10.43 | kergoth | http://www.rasterman.com/files/efl.png .. cool diagram of the enlightenment foundation libs, how they fit together |
| 22:10.44 | zecke | gints: yeah, my calibration 'work' on Qt2.3.10 broke it |
| 22:11.07 | gints | workaround? |
| 22:11.24 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3086 10openembedded/packages/ (20 files in 17 dirs): opie files: remove tag line (now in opie.bbclass) and reset PR |
| 22:11.27 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3085 10openembedded/ (177 files in 167 dirs): compute TAG line in opie.bbclass instead of in (all) opie files |
| 22:11.43 | gints | let's move discusion to opie |
| 22:11.52 | reenoo_ | kergoth: it's probably just a question of attacking it with gdb, but I haven't got to that yet (and will not be able to do so in the near future) |
| 22:12.19 | reenoo_ | not before the end of this semester that is |
| 22:12.19 | kergoth | nod |
| 22:15.27 | kergoth | takepatch: 480 new revisions, 1 conflicts in 217 files |
| 22:15.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:15.46 | mickey|tv | yeah, opie moving forward one version is always fun |
| 22:16.48 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3073.1.1 10openembedded/packages/curl/ (curl_7.12.2.bb files/uclibc.patch): Fix curl build with uclibc. |
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| 22:19.39 | reenoo_ | kergoth: I'm not sure about the project status either... http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10528978 <- doesn't sound that promising (given that there's still nothing in the SF.net CVS) :/ |
| 22:19.45 | kergoth | kjs in osb-jscore doesnt build with uclibc either. math function, isnan() |
| 22:20.05 | zecke|assignment | kergoth: is not a number isn't in uclibc? |
| 22:20.28 | kergoth | zecke|assignment: not sure, i know uclibc's math functions are really limited |
| 22:22.22 | kergoth | /tmp/ccsDtTpq.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main': |
| 22:22.22 | kergoth | conftest.c: undefined reference to `isnan' |
| 22:22.22 | kergoth | /tmp/ccsDtTpq.o(.data+0x0): undefined reference to `isnan' |
| 22:22.22 | kergoth | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 22:22.31 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:22.35 | zecke|assignment | conftest? |
| 22:22.52 | zecke|assignment | look if KJavaScript even needs isnan |
| 22:23.05 | kergoth | the con figure script |
| 22:23.14 | kergoth | it determined that isnan wasnt usable |
| 22:23.25 | kergoth | eh |
| 22:23.28 | kergoth | isnt isnan in libm? |
| 22:23.33 | kergoth | they arent linking to libm in that test |
| 22:24.53 | tux_mike | gah |
| 22:24.58 | tux_mike | i hate working here |
| 22:25.22 | zecke|assignment | kergoth: yes it is in -lm |
| 22:25.45 | zecke|assignment | kergoth: but KJS (inside konqE (older)) will use isnan if it can |
| 22:26.17 | koen | tux_mike: working where? |
| 22:27.27 | kergoth | zecke|assignment: nod, looks like osb-jscore isnt checking for -lm in its configure script.. bug |
| 22:27.29 | tux_mike | a large medical center |
| 22:28.10 | kergoth | heh, that fixed it |
| 22:29.29 | koen | ewhen bitbake-ng can make graphs like the elf one, I'll show it to all my friends :) |
| 22:34.21 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3088 10openembedded/packages/gtk-webcore/ (osb-jscore_0.5.0.bb osb-jscore-0.5.0/libm.patch): Add patch to make the osb-jscore build check for libm and add -lm to LIBS when we find it, since that's generally what provides isnan() & friends. |
| 22:34.43 | kergoth | koen: hehe, its on my todo :) |
| 22:37.25 | *** join/#oe mithro (~tim@202.191.111.52) |
| 22:38.28 | reenoo_ | kergoth: graphviz? |
| 22:39.28 | *** join/#oe molivier (~mac@f09v-5-188.d1.club-internet.fr) |
| 22:39.40 | kergoth | yeah, shouldnt be hard once we've got the graph to emit it in whatever form |
| 22:40.19 | kergoth | blehh |
| 22:40.29 | kergoth | too much blood in my caffeine stream |
| 22:41.37 | zecke|assignment | kergoth: what kind of devices you write drivers for? Only for the omap itself or other TI devices you can use with ARM Cores? |
| 22:41.59 | kergoth | OMAP, and whatever peripherals are on the omap boards |
| 22:42.03 | kergoth | thats about it |
| 22:42.23 | kergoth | (i.e. tsc2101 audio & touchscreen, etc) |
| 22:42.41 | zecke|assignment | tsc2101 uses the i2c bus? |
| 22:42.57 | kergoth | SPI/uWire, iirc |
| 22:43.03 | kergoth | for control anyway |
| 22:43.11 | kergoth | the actual audio data would be i2s or whatever |
| 22:43.13 | zecke|assignment | ah yes |
| 22:48.22 | koen | 'night all |
| 22:49.44 | kergoth | ~fishslap reenoo_ |
| 22:49.47 | ibot | ACTION slaps reenoo_ up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 22:50.03 | reenoo_ | for the libtool hack? |
| 22:50.17 | kergoth | naw, missing dep |
| 22:50.30 | kergoth | osb-browser didnt depend on libglade, neither did the nrcore that it depended on |
| 22:50.45 | kergoth | its a good rule of thumb that if the package uses pkgconfig, read the PKG_CHECK_MODULES line in its configure.ac for DEPENDS |
| 22:51.05 | kergoth | s/neither.*/and its deps didnt pull it in/ |
| 22:52.08 | reenoo_ | right. simply forgot to add it. (it's kind of obvious that osb-browser needs glade...) |
| 22:52.33 | kergoth | not obvious to me, but thats just cause i'm ignorant of gtk and gnome things :) |
| 22:53.20 | kergoth | there we are, osb-browser built for the uclibc rootfs |
| 22:53.29 | reenoo_ | excellent |
| 22:53.29 | kergoth | not that itll be very useful, since matchbox likes to shit itself in that rootfs |
| 22:53.32 | kergoth | but still |
| 22:53.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:54.05 | reenoo_ | hehe, yeah |
| 22:54.58 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3089 10openembedded/packages/gtk-webcore/osb-browser_0.5.0.bb: Add missing dep to osb-browser. |
| 22:55.55 | kergoth | sucks that the code is stagnant |
| 22:56.04 | kergoth | almost worth someone forking it off and putting it in svn somewhere |
| 22:56.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:56.21 | kergoth | ah well |
| 23:08.42 | reenoo_ | I'm off to bed. 'night all |
| 23:08.43 | kergoth | night |
| 23:16.42 | RP | This aticore driver is positively insane. It just knows the framebuffer lives at 0xf1000000 :-/ |
| 23:17.45 | RP | and memory protection in 2.6 means it can't access it, even if I map it there... |
| 23:17.51 | levi | I need to put a flag in the CFLAGS of all the builds for the target. Where should I put it? |
| 23:19.24 | kergoth | RP: heh, too bad there's no standard 2d accel kernel<->userspace interface |
| 23:19.37 | kergoth | levi: CFLAGS += .. |
| 23:19.41 | kergoth | or whatever |
| 23:20.11 | levi | kergoth: In my local.conf? |
| 23:20.31 | kergoth | levi: if you want it to affect all packages, yep |
| 23:20.37 | levi | kergoth: OK, thanks. |
| 23:20.41 | kergoth | levi: what do you need to add? |
| 23:21.06 | levi | kergoth: -G0, to work around some stupid brokenness in my arch-specific gcc code. |
| 23:21.13 | kergoth | ahh |
| 23:21.31 | kergoth | .conf is global, .bb and .bbclass is local to the specific package |
| 23:21.40 | kergoth | general rule of thumb |
| 23:22.04 | levi | It uses .global instead of .comm for global undefined variables if you have the small data/bss sections enabled. |
| 23:22.33 | levi | Which means that any global variables that aren't externed become multiple definitions when you link. |
| 23:22.57 | kergoth | ah |
| 23:23.35 | levi | Which has been PISSING ME OFF all day. :/ I just barely figured out what the problem was. |
| 23:25.05 | levi | kergoth: Oh... will CFLAGS in the local.conf affect compiles for the host, too? Like the toolchain? I have another that I need only for things compiled for the target machine. |
| 23:25.12 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:25.17 | kergoth | TARGET_CFLAGS is target only |
| 23:25.29 | kergoth | CFLAGs is either TARGET or HOST, depending on whther or not it inherits native/cross |
| 23:25.34 | kergoth | er, TARGET or BUILD |
| 23:26.06 | levi | OK, so I'll stick these in TARGET_CFLAGS. |
| 23:27.08 | levi | I hate working with this code that is broken in really obscure ways. |
| 23:28.12 | kergoth | nod |
| 23:30.07 | levi | kergoth: One more thing... I noticed that a lot of .bb files will pull a config.sub from somewhere when they do_configure(). Where is this config.sub stored, and which package puts it there? I need to change it to support my arch. |
| 23:31.32 | kergoth | gnu-config package |
| 23:31.42 | kergoth | pulls down config.sub & config.guess from gnu.org cvs |
| 23:32.00 | kergoth | also provides a gnu-configize perl app that functions similarly to autoconf/aclocal/etc |
| 23:46.22 | zecke | good nite |
| 23:47.05 | RP | 'night zecke |
| 23:49.22 | zecke | RP: just a second, could you tell me what the Keymap patch needs to do, to fully support the C-xxx devices? |
| 23:49.43 | RP | zecke: I think it works now doesn't it? |
| 23:49.58 | zecke | ah sorry I don't have a C-xxx but if it works I'm happy |
| 23:50.16 | RP | zecke: As far as I know and from what I've seen on mine, it works fine |
| 23:50.47 | RP | Other than the Alt key locking the keyboard up! ;-) |
| 23:51.22 | RP | Well, multiple modifiers |
| 23:56.38 | zecke | ok well then good nite |
