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| 03:58.25 | [g2] | /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf say don't edit these files that they updated automatically by update-modules |
| 03:58.44 | [g2] | How do i specify a kernel module to be loaded |
| 03:59.35 | [g2] | Just add /etc/modules.autoload ? |
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| 08:25.07 | koen | good morning all |
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| 09:33.37 | XorA | no OE goodness for me today |
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| 10:29.29 | Cwiiis | I've got a problem with awk... I want to say var=`echo var2 | sed -e s/\//\\\//g`, but that ends up doing nothing because the backslash gets evaluated - if I add in another backslash, it just doesn't work - any ideas? |
| 10:30.00 | koen | use : as a sed seperator? |
| 10:30.14 | koen | s:/:bla: |
| 10:30.23 | Cwiiis | It's not the seperator business that's the problem though |
| 10:30.31 | Cwiiis | Think I've solved it anyway :) |
| 10:30.41 | Cwiiis | "s/\//\\\\\\\\\//g" :p |
| 10:31.22 | bluelightning | Cwiiis: yucky |
| 10:31.53 | Cwiiis | Think I might even need more, it gets parsed again when I use it elsewhere :/ |
| 10:32.28 | Cwiiis | ah no, my bad |
| 10:33.58 | Cwiiis | fixed :) |
| 10:34.25 | XorA | replacing / with \/ ? |
| 10:36.35 | J | Cwiiis: you know that you don't _have_ to use / as a delim don't you? You could use (for example), !... echo var2 | sed -e 's!/!\\!g' |
| 10:37.08 | J | Cwiiis: sorry, must finish reading before replying. :/ |
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| 10:52.00 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 10:54.06 | AxTheB | hi. |
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| 11:11.52 | bluelightning | argh this is driving me nuts |
| 11:12.20 | bluelightning | how does one re-get a single directory (openembedded/packages/netbase in this case) with bk? |
| 11:14.08 | XorA | bluelightning: let me know when you find out :-) |
| 11:14.34 | bluelightning | well bk co <dirname> does not work... |
| 11:14.45 | XorA | bk pull <dirname> |
| 11:14.48 | XorA | ?? |
| 11:15.45 | bluelightning | ERROR-cannot cd to /home/paul/build/oe/openembedded/packages/netbase (illegal, nonexistant, or not package root) |
| 11:16.02 | bluelightning | doing mkdir on that dir and then retrying doesn't make any difference |
| 11:17.32 | bluelightning | gah :( |
| 11:17.49 | bluelightning | why is OE using this thing again? |
| 11:18.35 | mickeyl | because it's the best rcs out there |
| 11:18.38 | mickeyl | morning, btw. |
| 11:18.45 | bluelightning | morning mickeyl |
| 11:18.55 | florian_kc | hi mickeyl |
| 11:19.01 | bluelightning | mickeyl: perhaps you can tell me how to re-get a single directory with bk then? |
| 11:19.13 | mickeyl | did you rm -rf the complete directory ? |
| 11:19.17 | bluelightning | yes |
| 11:19.18 | mickeyl | if so, forget it, you need to reclone. |
| 11:19.30 | mickeyl | you deleted all the versioning information |
| 11:19.34 | mickeyl | which is in the SCCS subdir |
| 11:19.39 | mickeyl | without that, bk is helpless |
| 11:19.40 | RP | bluelightning: bk repair may fix it... |
| 11:19.47 | mickeyl | hi RP |
| 11:19.54 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 11:20.46 | RP | bluelightning: recloning may be quicker though... |
| 11:21.23 | bluelightning | mickeyl: still I don't understand why it can't go "ah, that directory is missing, let's re-clone it on its own" |
| 11:21.45 | mickeyl | because the concept of partial recloning doesn't exist |
| 11:21.57 | mickeyl | a clone is always complete |
| 11:22.14 | bluelightning | well that really worries me |
| 11:22.51 | RP | bluelightning: How would it know what position to put the files in? You've wiped all the version information... |
| 11:23.26 | RP | bluelightning: If you wipe the files but leave the SCCS directories (or whatever they're called), it can recover |
| 11:24.01 | bluelightning | RP: ok well I'll remember that for next time... I still don't understand though |
| 11:25.20 | mithro | anyone know a good way to create a new keymap for X? |
| 11:25.33 | koen | bluelightning: bk doesn't know about subdirs |
| 11:25.58 | koen | that's not the whole story, but a simplification |
| 11:26.11 | bluelightning | koen: it just seems like a pretty big shortcoming, for a modern system |
| 11:26.21 | koen | bluelightning: agreed |
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| 11:27.39 | RP | bluelightning: By wiping out the SCCS directories, you're missing the point of bk can do. You should never have need to do that... |
| 11:28.19 | bluelightning | RP: I guess I'm just used to CVS and similar version systems where you can just delete stuff and get it again afresh |
| 11:28.25 | RP | bk will argue that as bk repair can fix it and the it should never be neccessary to do that, there isn't a problem. I can see their POV although I can also see yours... |
| 11:28.30 | koen | RP: but a the possibility to partially reclone would be nice |
| 11:29.05 | RP | koen: I'd agree but the need isn't there if you use bk properly... |
| 11:29.22 | bluelightning | RP: doing a repair now... I don't really mind how long it takes as I'm going to bed shortly |
| 11:29.27 | bluelightning | but if I did then it would be a pain |
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| 11:30.14 | MasterJim | hi |
| 11:30.24 | bluelightning | hi MasterJim |
| 11:30.46 | MasterJim | I got a pb to compile opie-datebook for OZ 3.5.2: Fetch failed: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/pub/qt/snapshots/qt-embedded-2.3.9-snapshot-20050114.tar.gz |
| 11:32.03 | MasterJim | there is no qt-embedded-2.3.9 on trolltech |
| 11:32.07 | XorA | on husky, which serial port is Irda? |
| 11:33.08 | kan0 | /dev/ttyS1 |
| 11:33.16 | MasterJim | and I wanted to know how can I modify my bb files to fetch a good one, maybe elsewhere |
| 11:34.02 | XorA | kan0: damn, I was right, I dont think my phone works :-( |
| 11:34.19 | kan0 | just not being detected? |
| 11:34.41 | XorA | kan0: trying to get AT interface up and running |
| 11:34.55 | kan0 | iirc, /proc/net/irda/discovery will tell you if the phone is found |
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| 11:36.15 | XorA | kan0: cheers |
| 11:36.24 | kan0 | and btw, you dont talk direct to the serial port, you talk to /dev/ircomm0 |
| 11:41.49 | mickeyl | MasterJim: you can a) try to get the source elsewhere and put it into your sourcedir, b) try to upgrade, because current OE builds qte-2.3.10-snapshot |
| 11:44.04 | bluelightning | 'night all |
| 11:44.34 | mickeyl | g'night bluelightning |
| 11:47.06 | Cwiiis | unionroot-utils working :D Will tidy it up and push later :) |
| 11:48.28 | mickeyl | great! |
| 11:48.32 | mickeyl | congrats |
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| 12:46.14 | peter__ | when running bitbake I get: ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf |
| 12:46.42 | koen | peter__: check BBPATH |
| 12:48.54 | peter__ | koen: thanks |
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| 12:52.39 | peter__ | sorry, I am probably again doing something stupid: bitbake opie-image: ERROR: Nothing provides opie-image (note I have BBFILES = "${HOME}/oe/openembedded-exported/packages/*/*.bb" in conf/local.conf) |
| 12:53.46 | koen | does ${HOME} work in there? |
| 12:54.49 | peter__ | i change it to an explicit path but doesn't help |
| 12:56.08 | mickey|lunch | BBFILES is wrong |
| 12:56.19 | mickeyl | packages/packages/*/*.bb, not packages/*/*.bb |
| 12:56.41 | mickeyl | check that using ls -l <...> you get the .bb files |
| 12:56.50 | mickeyl | if that works, then you need to check BBPATH |
| 12:57.01 | mickeyl | it should point to build:oe:bitbake |
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| 12:59.00 | peter__ | I changed it to packages/packages ... doesn't help. BBPATH=/home/peter/oe/build:/home/peter/oe/openembedded-exported:/home/peter/oe/bitbake ... doesn't help |
| 12:59.44 | peter__ | (i wouldn't expect packages/packages to work anyway as that is not where the files are (checked with ls -l) |
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| 13:04.20 | CIA-5 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.2941 10openembedded/packages/ (33 files in 3 dirs): fix bash-3.0 and move bash-2.05 into nonworking |
| 13:05.23 | peter__ | btw is the old wiki up at all? i am relying on openembedded.org google cache |
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| 13:11.01 | peter____ | (i am the same peter__) |
| 13:13.35 | mickeyl | does it parse all the 2000 .bb files when you issue bitbake opie-image ? |
| 13:14.04 | mickeyl | what happens when you bitbake -D -D -D opie-image ? |
| 13:16.19 | peter____ | it looks like it doesn't see anything still... ERROR: no files to build. NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 0 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked. |
| 13:17.15 | mickeyl | looks like it doesn't pick up your conf files |
| 13:17.19 | mickeyl | try bitbake -D -D -D |
| 13:17.29 | mickeyl | and see what conf files it tries to open |
| 13:19.25 | peter____ | it looks like it reads bitbake.conf from the build dir (i copied it there) moved it away and it works :) |
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| 13:43.55 | IRC_noobee | Hi |
| 13:44.08 | IRC_noobee | My name is Rolf Leggewie. |
| 13:44.22 | IRC_noobee | Is openembedded.org down? |
| 13:48.57 | koen | no, dns is broken |
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| 13:54.12 | Cwiiis | kergoth: You about? |
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| 14:04.19 | IRC_noobee | You know the IP number so I can temporarily fix it in the router here? |
| 14:04.32 | koen | the same as handhelds.org |
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| 14:07.29 | IRC_noobee | Thanks! |
| 14:11.01 | Cwiiis | I think the default destinations for ipkg should be subdirectories on external media rather than the root directory - This stops the user's files interfering with package files, makes them look less messy and works better with unionroot - Anyone object to me changing the files in ipkg-collateral for the destinations to default to <media>/.packages ? |
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| 14:17.22 | XorA | Cwiiis: that would stop all the 5500 users killing their devices on the first day as well |
| 14:18.33 | Cwiiis | XorA: hehe, I guess so :) |
| 14:19.03 | XorA | especially if /mnt/card is chmod 000 |
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| 14:22.14 | florian_kc | Is there a way to make bb build a single package with debugging symbols enable without editing local.conf? |
| 14:23.05 | RP | florian_kc: Add the appropriate config to the packages .bb file? |
| 14:24.11 | Cwiiis | Is there a shell command to evaulate a path so as to get the real path (and not any symbolic links) |
| 14:25.24 | koen | pwd? |
| 14:26.00 | Cwiiis | That only works with the current directory though? I guess you could cd first... |
| 14:26.31 | florian_kc | RP: you must admit that you won't win much with this - i just want to buid it one time and not edit files for this. |
| 14:26.45 | XorA | pwd give path including simlink |
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| 14:27.32 | Cwiiis | For example, I have a path /mnt/cf, but that's a symbolic link to /media/cf - I want to obtain /media/cf from that, how would I go about it other than changing directory and using pwd? |
| 14:27.54 | pb_ | hi all |
| 14:27.59 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 14:28.03 | koen | Cwiiis: no idea, sorry |
| 14:28.32 | Cwiiis | Hey pb_ - Would you have any objections to me changing the default dests in ipkg-collateral for external media to go in a subdir rather than the root dir? (for example, /media/cf/.packages/ rather than /media/cf/) |
| 14:29.24 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 14:29.42 | pb_ | Cwiiis: I think users would find that surprising. |
| 14:29.59 | RP | florian_kc: Editing a single .bb would stop the cache having to be refreshed. Other than that, no... |
| 14:30.21 | RP | hi pb_ |
| 14:30.34 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 14:30.42 | XorA | Cwiiis: first thing I always do with ipkg is change it to /mnt/card/.ipk and edit ipkg-link, do this everytime I flash |
| 14:31.09 | Cwiiis | pb_: Perhaps, although it would be a lot nicer and stop some potential issues if union-mounted root ever becomes the default |
| 14:31.12 | koen | Cwiiis: some warning with big red flashing letters might give the users a clue |
| 14:31.22 | Cwiiis | XorA: ipkg-link still doesn't read ipkg.conf? I thought that was fixed...? |
| 14:31.41 | XorA | Cwiiis: it may do, I havent looked since 3.5.2 |
| 14:31.57 | Cwiiis | XorA: I could've sworn someone fixed it a long time before then :/ |
| 14:34.06 | pb_ | Cwiiis: I'm not sure that concealing all the installed packages in a hidden directory would be all that much nicer. |
| 14:34.29 | pb_ | What are the union-related issues that it would solve? |
| 14:34.30 | Cwiiis | pb_: Well, perhaps not a hidden directory |
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| 14:34.55 | XorA | BTW just to point out that a hidden directory doesnt turn up in the docs tab and slow Opie to standstill |
| 14:34.58 | Cwiiis | pb_: All the users files on external media will be visible from the root directory if packages aren't in a subdir |
| 14:35.33 | Cwiiis | pb_: So having two docs with the same name on an SD and a CF card (for example), would conflict - or if somehow a user had a file with the same name as a file on the root dir |
| 14:42.26 | pb_ | Oh, I see; you want to overlay the place where the packages are onto /? I guess that makes some sense. |
| 14:42.40 | Cwiiis | Yes |
| 14:43.12 | pb_ | In that case, yes, I think the change is OK. I would prefer it to be a non-hidden directory, though. |
| 14:43.13 | koen | I guess I hit one of those patcher -> quilt issues with glib-2.0 |
| 14:43.16 | Cwiiis | It's working at the moment (well, it doesn't survive suspend, but it's not big deal to un-unionmount and re-unionmount directories on suspend/resume) |
| 14:43.32 | Cwiiis | pb_: Does <media>/packages sound ok? Or would 'ipk' be better? |
| 14:43.59 | pb_ | Not ipk. "packages" would be fine, or "software", or anything like that. |
| 14:44.07 | pb_ | "Program Files" :-) |
| 14:44.29 | koen | "My Program Files" to make it worse |
| 14:44.47 | koen | "My INstalled Software" |
| 14:44.54 | Cwiiis | hehe :) |
| 14:45.11 | Cwiiis | "Documents and Settings/Application Data/ipk" :) |
| 14:45.18 | Cwiiis | ooh, forgot the username in there... |
| 14:46.06 | RP | and some kind of UID... |
| 14:49.07 | Cwiiis | And must make it hidden of course |
| 14:49.28 | pb_ | enough already |
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| 14:51.24 | Cwiiis | Is there a shell command I can issue to resolve a path (to get rid of symbolic links)? |
| 14:51.56 | gints | If it is "My Program Files" then it should be hidden |
| 14:52.40 | gints | In case somebody want's to find out what is installed... |
| 15:01.41 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:02.57 | koen | gints: a simple 'ls' does the same |
| 15:06.08 | gints | Then it should be ".My Program Files" :) |
| 15:06.37 | Cwiiis | Are we not assuming a FAT fs? :) |
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| 15:07.51 | gints | sure FAT and My Documents... For XP compatibility |
| 15:13.13 | Cwiiis | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:jnhaZXBfVU4J:www.fi.muni.cz/~adelton/linux/vfat-symlink/+linux+resolve+symlink&hl=en - That might be kinda useful... |
| 15:20.07 | prpplague | anyone doing arm dev in the dfw area? |
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| 16:12.20 | Cwiiis | I'm getting permission problems trying to move a file during postinst - What permissions do you have during postinst? |
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| 16:41.10 | IRC_noobee | Hi |
| 16:41.37 | IRC_noobee | Trying to set up the bitbake toolchain according to http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 16:42.21 | IRC_noobee | I do not want bitkeeper |
| 16:42.43 | koen | then use cvs |
| 16:42.52 | IRC_noobee | Great |
| 16:43.00 | koen | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/oe/ |
| 16:43.26 | IRC_noobee | Thanks, you anticipated my next question ;-) |
| 16:43.53 | treke- | is that still maintained? |
| 16:44.13 | koen | treke-: pretty much |
| 16:44.25 | treke- | hehe |
| 16:44.32 | koen | florian_kc uses it, and he pings pb every now and then to update it |
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| 16:44.48 | treke- | hehe |
| 16:44.52 | IRC_noobee | That shall be good enough for me now |
| 16:45.14 | CosmicPenguin | I would rather use the pole |
| 16:45.15 | IRC_noobee | Just want to see if some SW I want for my Z compiles and runs |
| 16:45.39 | IRC_noobee | Why would you stay away from it? General dislike of cvs? |
| 16:45.48 | treke- | I don't trust it |
| 16:46.06 | IRC_noobee | Distrust CVS or the repository? |
| 16:46.34 | treke- | the process behind the repository |
| 16:46.43 | IRC_noobee | OK |
| 16:46.44 | pb_ | heh |
| 16:46.50 | pb_ | the process certainly is a bit fragile |
| 16:46.53 | treke- | yup |
| 16:47.00 | IRC_noobee | So I absolutely cannot use svn without bk? |
| 16:47.15 | pb_ | sure, you can use cvs or the snapshots. |
| 16:47.53 | treke- | pb_: I don't know why, but even without ever checking the export repository out for editing bitkeeper will run into conflicts it can't resolve |
| 16:48.12 | pb_ | treke-: yeah, that's very bizarre |
| 16:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | IRC_noobee: I recommend the snapshots - they're your best non-BK bet |
| 16:48.27 | IRC_noobee | I have svn installed, just do not want bk. I dl'ed the snapshot already |
| 16:48.29 | pb_ | I don't think I've ever seen that kind of spurious conflict in any of my trees. |
| 16:48.46 | treke- | it also tends to just stop working when mcvoy decides to expire the license on old copies of bitkeeper |
| 16:49.03 | pb_ | yeah |
| 16:50.33 | IRC_noobee | I got confused about the part on the wiki where it specifies what to do if you do not want bk. I'll edit the wiki at http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted. |
| 16:50.49 | IRC_noobee | Please someone check in a few minutes if I did not make a mistake. |
| 16:53.35 | treke- | nice |
| 16:53.52 | treke- | the openssl build process is creating files it can't read |
| 16:54.25 | XorA | treke-: the .pc/debian/..... files? |
| 16:54.31 | treke- | yup |
| 16:54.40 | treke- | being created with 000 permissions :p |
| 16:54.46 | XorA | treke-: hit that yesterday, byt my machine wont etherwake today :-( |
| 16:55.07 | treke- | hehe |
| 16:55.32 | IRC_noobee | Made the changes. |
| 16:55.51 | IRC_noobee | There is something else that puzzles me. What is the /stuff/build/ dir? |
| 16:56.10 | treke- | sounds like a build directory |
| 16:56.38 | IRC_noobee | ;-) |
| 16:57.00 | IRC_noobee | Do I have to create it? It is not in the archives. |
| 16:57.21 | mickeyl | mkdir /my/build/directory |
| 16:57.38 | kergoth_ | hmm.. i was late on my dns fees, wasnt i? |
| 16:57.44 | mickeyl | hey kergoth |
| 16:57.44 | mickeyl | sup |
| 16:57.45 | kergoth_ | yep, looks that way |
| 16:57.55 | kergoth_ | nada, cursing monday and drinking my mountain dew |
| 16:57.56 | kergoth_ | you? |
| 16:57.57 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 16:58.10 | mickeyl | just returned from st.moritz |
| 16:58.15 | mickeyl | great conference, great skiing :) |
| 16:58.21 | kergoth_ | had fun? |
| 16:58.25 | mickeyl | definitly. was nice |
| 16:58.38 | mickeyl | i just hate traveling 8 hours per train |
| 16:58.41 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 16:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | 8 hours? Damn |
| 16:59.21 | kergoth_ | i hope you had a pda and/or a good book or 3 |
| 16:59.24 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 16:59.25 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a lot of trees to stare at... :) |
| 16:59.40 | mickeyl | there's a private airport just around the corner of st.moritz, but you have to own a helicopter or a jet to land there :) no public transport |
| 16:59.50 | mickeyl | poor mickey no heli |
| 16:59.52 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:59.58 | pb_ | heh |
| 17:00.41 | XorA | hmm, need a few more donation before the OZ helicopter |
| 17:00.50 | mickeyl | hehe, just some more bucks :D |
| 17:01.09 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 17:02.49 | XorA | who is brave enough to fly in aircraft run by a SL5500 with oz :-) |
| 17:03.00 | treke- | gpe or qpe based? |
| 17:03.08 | XorA | gpe |
| 17:03.12 | treke- | maybe |
| 17:03.57 | RP | You'd fly in an aircraft controlled by a kernel written by Sharp? |
| 17:04.06 | mickeyl | HELL |
| 17:04.06 | mickeyl | NO! |
| 17:04.09 | mickeyl | :D |
| 17:04.13 | treke- | doesn't 2.6.11 run on collie as well? |
| 17:04.23 | RP | treke: Not that well (yet) |
| 17:04.24 | mickeyl | not really |
| 17:04.27 | mickeyl | john is getting a bit behind |
| 17:04.29 | treke- | well then, I'll walk |
| 17:04.46 | RP | :) |
| 17:05.28 | RP | I'm having trouble deciding on whether the C760 with 2.6.11 would be safe... |
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| 17:06.02 | mickeyl | as long as you stop putting brackets wherever you like ;)) |
| 17:06.27 | RP | Has anyone tried the fixed kernel image yet btw? |
| 17:06.41 | mickeyl | no, just returned home |
| 17:06.46 | mickeyl | downloading it now |
| 17:06.49 | RP | mickeyl: The thing is the code with the wrong brackets worked! |
| 17:06.51 | mickeyl | zImage6 or 7? |
| 17:07.13 | RP | zImage6 |
| 17:07.18 | mickeyl | k |
| 17:07.52 | benpp | did someone there gave a try to the recent port of OpenBSD on C860/C3000 ? |
| 17:08.09 | RP | I'm anxiously waiting to know if I've fixed it :) |
| 17:08.20 | mickeyl | in 5 minutes we'll know... |
| 17:08.31 | mickeyl | if my nand holds yet another flash :D |
| 17:08.49 | RP | Its like waiting for exam results :) |
| 17:09.03 | kergoth_ | what bug are you guys working on? |
| 17:09.23 | RP | kergoth: I broke the touchscreen driver under 2.6... |
| 17:09.56 | kergoth_ | ahh |
| 17:10.02 | RP | kergoth_: I suspect there are two types of chips. The TI one in the C750 and a cheap copy in the C760... |
| 17:10.20 | kergoth_ | thats unfortunate. the ads7846 is a pretty decent chip |
| 17:10.45 | kergoth_ | bleh. tiiiiired |
| 17:10.58 | RP | The copy seems to perform ok. Just ignores the power commands etc... |
| 17:11.32 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart jwz for not keeping screensaver archives |
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| 17:12.16 | mickeyl | k, *flashing* |
| 17:13.10 | mickeyl | testing ts... |
| 17:13.39 | mickeyl | ts works |
| 17:13.40 | mickeyl | suspending |
| 17:13.53 | mickeyl | resuming |
| 17:14.11 | mickeyl | ts still worky! |
| 17:14.13 | mickeyl | ~praise RP |
| 17:14.15 | ibot | All hail RP! |
| 17:14.19 | mickeyl | very good |
| 17:14.25 | RP | yippie :) |
| 17:15.55 | RP | mickeyl: FYI, I've turned on pressure sensing the the driver. I have no idea what effect that has on opie but it seemed to work fine for me... |
| 17:16.01 | XorA | so how close to 2.6 now? |
| 17:16.24 | mickeyl | RP: does tslib give that through? |
| 17:16.51 | RP | mickeyl: tslib certain accepts it as I looked at the code. What it does with it I don't know... |
| 17:17.43 | kergoth_ | tslib doesnt do much with it |
| 17:17.46 | RP | With using a stylus on the touchscreen the pressure sensing isn't too hot but it can tell a sharp tap from a light scrape... |
| 17:17.50 | kergoth_ | it sets a threshold for what pressure is considered a release |
| 17:17.52 | kergoth_ | and thats about it |
| 17:17.57 | kergoth_ | well, hands it to the app |
| 17:18.09 | kergoth_ | but without some sort of calibration / normalization, there's no expected pressure scale |
| 17:18.14 | kergoth_ | how would you know what the numbers _mean_? |
| 17:18.41 | RP | Presumably you could calibrate something... |
| 17:18.52 | pb_ | yah. |
| 17:18.59 | pb_ | "press as hard as you can to calibrate the touchscreen" |
| 17:19.14 | XorA | pb_: thats the world scariest instruction |
| 17:19.33 | RP | Anyhow, the driver reports which is the kernel bit done :) |
| 17:19.49 | RP | As long as it doesn't break anything, that's fine... |
| 17:19.56 | pb_ | yep. very good. |
| 17:20.16 | RP | XorA: In answer to your question, 2.6 on the c7xx is now juts minus IR and sound. |
| 17:20.35 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/ |
| 17:20.36 | XorA | RP: ooooooh, snikey! |
| 17:21.07 | kergoth_ | i'd make it something more like "please do a very slow touchscreen press, from very light, to hard, then back to light again before releasing" or something like that |
| 17:21.36 | kergoth_ | bleh |
| 17:21.49 | levi | Damn, my binutils .bb /almost/ works. Just a little bit of trouble in the staging part. |
| 17:22.03 | XorA | WTF is snikey???? I meant shiney! |
| 17:22.06 | mickeyl | "press until the display squeaks to have an optimal calibration" |
| 17:22.07 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:22.11 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:22.34 | RP | mickeyl: Thanks for testing that. I can now continue with other things knowing I haven't broken anything :) |
| 17:22.50 | mickeyl | RP: you're welcome. thanks for the effort at all |
| 17:22.53 | kergoth_ | i've noticed that for a lot of panels, the harder you press, the lower the pressure value. without calibration, it isnt very useful |
| 17:23.01 | kergoth_ | (that is, its the opposite of what you'd expect) |
| 17:23.02 | mickeyl | oh really? |
| 17:23.02 | mickeyl | odd |
| 17:23.03 | pb_ | yeah |
| 17:23.12 | RP | kergoth: This screen is the same... |
| 17:23.12 | pb_ | the "pressure" value is really just a measure of the resistance between the plates. |
| 17:23.24 | CosmicPenguin | Did rxvt 4.8 fix a security hole or something? |
| 17:23.31 | CosmicPenguin | s/rxvt/rxvt-unicode/ |
| 17:23.34 | RP | light pressure is 10000, it maxes out at 7000... |
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| 17:24.16 | kergoth_ | its also fun when the pressure range varies on the plates |
| 17:24.25 | treke- | at what point does the touchscreen crack? |
| 17:24.26 | kergoth_ | so you have to do a linear transform, just like the x/y calibration |
| 17:24.27 | mickeyl | nonlinear over 2d ? |
| 17:24.34 | treke- | besides any time kergoth uses it |
| 17:24.36 | kergoth_ | well, you'd certainly _hope_ that its linear |
| 17:24.45 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 17:24.48 | mickeyl | heh, yeah |
| 17:25.15 | prpplague | mickeyl: matrix multiplication is often used |
| 17:25.31 | prpplague | kergoth_: did you use that on several of your ts work? |
| 17:25.47 | kergoth_ | linear calibration isnt very difficult. |
| 17:26.23 | kergoth_ | prpplague: heh, i played with a few methods, but they were essentially the same other than how many points were sampled |
| 17:26.38 | prpplague | kergoth_: ahh |
| 17:26.55 | kergoth_ | the first one i played with was the 3 point method in the embedded.com article |
| 17:27.19 | kergoth_ | it isnt as tolerant as the 5 point method used in tslib |
| 17:27.37 | prpplague | kergoth_: ahh, it looks like the pixter firmware is just using 2 point linear |
| 17:27.48 | prpplague | kergoth_: i was looking at that friday |
| 17:27.55 | kergoth_ | opie and qtopia's calibrator is a 2 point like that, despite asking the user for 5 |
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| 17:28.06 | kergoth_ | those other points are only used to confirm that the panel is linear |
| 17:28.19 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:28.34 | kergoth_ | it verifies that they form a box, within a certain % tolerance |
| 17:28.37 | kergoth_ | which makes sense |
| 17:29.04 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:29.29 | prpplague | kergoth_: the pixter has a button on a gpio that initiates a calibration routine |
| 17:29.37 | jobi | what happened to openembedded.org? |
| 17:29.43 | kergoth_ | jobi: i didnt pay the dns fees on time :) |
| 17:29.53 | prpplague | doh |
| 17:29.59 | jobi | kergoth_: ok :) |
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| 17:30.10 | prpplague | s/speak/type |
| 17:30.23 | jobi | is there a SVNDATE or should I use CVSDATE? |
| 17:30.40 | kergoth_ | just use CVSDATE |
| 17:31.31 | levi | Hmm, apparently my ldscripts didn't get built. |
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| 17:34.02 | kergoth_ | okay, put in a request for transfer of openzaurus.org and openembedded.org. that dns place was charging too much |
| 17:34.42 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: wget doesnt give us much. would be nice to use libcurl for the "Wget" fetch method.. get more info |
| 17:34.45 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:34.50 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: for sure |
| 17:37.34 | benpp | kergoth: same for ipkg no ? (using libcurl rather than wget would be a plus) |
| 17:38.08 | kergoth_ | good idea |
| 17:38.23 | kergoth_ | although, we do usually have busybox wget |
| 17:38.37 | benpp | yes, but ipkg don't use it |
| 17:38.38 | kergoth_ | being able to use libcurl would be a good thing, but itd need to be optional |
| 17:38.43 | kergoth_ | huh? |
| 17:38.47 | kergoth_ | yes, it does |
| 17:39.27 | pb_ | heh, it doesn't have a lot of choice. busybox wget is the only wget in the images. |
| 17:40.15 | benpp | oops, I thought it was gnu wget (because of proxy/passive-ftp options) ;) |
| 17:41.00 | treke- | kergoth, where were you registering the domain and where did you go to? |
| 17:41.18 | kergoth_ | i was at easydns, and i went to godaddy (which is who kergoth.com is through) |
| 17:41.31 | treke- | hmmm, who is providing DNS? |
| 17:42.13 | kergoth_ | right now they are, they provide a few services for that |
| 17:42.21 | treke- | ah. |
| 17:42.46 | kergoth_ | through kergoth.com will likely start having its dns hosted at home, so i can handle the AAAA entries for ipv6 |
| 17:42.57 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:44.04 | treke- | go daddy's price looks good, but I need to find reasonable dns hosting for a few domains |
| 17:45.00 | kergoth_ | easydns had decent dns service, but was like $35 a year or something per domain, which is just silly |
| 17:45.29 | kergoth_ | hmm, the transfers didnt go through, likely because i owe easydns for the renewals that i dont want... just deleted the domains |
| 17:45.40 | kergoth_ | wonder how long till they vanish from whois so i can register them with godaddy |
| 17:45.44 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:46.39 | treke- | I wouldnt do that :) |
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| 17:48.02 | treke- | iirc verisign sits on the domains for a while |
| 17:48.05 | kergoth_ | hey neotron |
| 17:48.12 | RP | I just run my own DNS servers. Much simpler... |
| 17:48.28 | neotron | heya |
| 17:48.30 | treke- | yeah not really on option for me |
| 17:48.59 | kergoth_ | hosting your own dns really requires that you trust your isp to not fuck up |
| 17:49.00 | treke- | I'm on a dynamic ip |
| 17:49.05 | kergoth_ | and have some amount of reliability |
| 17:49.11 | treke- | and I don't trust the cable company not to fuck up |
| 17:49.16 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 17:49.33 | RP | treke-: dynamic IPs are a pain... |
| 17:49.43 | treke- | these are the people who decided to just not show up for two installation appointments and lie about it |
| 17:50.03 | RP | My DSL provider gives me a static IP and they've been reliable... |
| 17:50.16 | treke- | Finding one of those is tough :) |
| 17:50.36 | RP | I think I was lucky... |
| 17:50.56 | RP | The cable company I had before this was a nightmare... |
| 17:50.58 | treke- | I've had two reliable dsl connections and one unreliable one. Guess which one gave me the static ip :p |
| 17:51.09 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 17:51.14 | RP | typical |
| 17:51.14 | mickeyl | murphy is everywhere |
| 17:51.39 | kergoth_ | hmm, so openzaurus.org and openembedded.org are no longer mine at easydns, yet easydns still holds them, and wont let me transfer them away. guess its till to call them |
| 17:52.03 | treke- | right |
| 17:52.19 | RP | kergoth: that would appear sensible... |
| 17:52.24 | treke- | it's for verisigns backorder deal |
| 17:52.37 | treke- | they contract out to someone to take bids on buying expired domains |
| 17:52.41 | treke- | so they hold them for a while |
| 17:52.43 | kergoth_ | ahh |
| 17:53.13 | mickeyl | ~seen ral |
| 17:53.22 | ibot | ral <~raL@pD9E7AF92.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 69d 17h 29m 22s ago, saying: 'how's development for the sl-6000 going?'. |
| 17:53.22 | gints | need access openemmbedded GettingStarted page how? |
| 17:53.22 | treke- | this would possibly qualify as an "oh shit" moment |
| 17:53.36 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:53.37 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 17:54.23 | kergoth_ | gints: add openembedded.org to your /etc/hosts with an ip of 192.58.209.90. |
| 17:54.24 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:54.42 | treke- | openembedded.org is already inaccessable? |
| 17:54.46 | treke- | that wasf ast |
| 17:55.15 | kergoth_ | the expiry date was the 21st. they had emailed me before then about it |
| 17:55.22 | kergoth_ | but i was broke before then |
| 17:55.25 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:55.55 | prpplague | kergoth_: amazing how we still get a good paycheck, and still be broke |
| 17:55.57 | gints | kergoth: thks |
| 17:56.06 | treke- | kergoth, should have said something :) |
| 17:56.12 | treke- | i'd have sprunf for the renewal |
| 17:56.26 | kergoth_ | prpplague: heh, indeed. part of that is me being a complete dumbass with finances, being lazy, forgetting things, and then of course my idiot father not paying his rent on time |
| 17:56.29 | kergoth_ | ah well |
| 17:56.55 | treke- | kergoth, what are the ips for oe.org and oz.org? |
| 17:57.04 | prpplague | kergoth_: hehe, yea, well, i'm still digging out from my freakin divorce |
| 17:57.05 | kergoth_ | oe.org just points at handhelds.org |
| 17:57.07 | kergoth_ | they host it |
| 17:57.10 | kergoth_ | oz.org is sf |
| 17:57.26 | kergoth_ | prpplague: ahh right |
| 17:57.29 | treke- | do you know where oz.org was cnamed to? |
| 17:57.40 | prpplague | kergoth_: well, atleast when it comes time for a holiday, you can grab a plane and come visit me |
| 17:57.46 | kergoth_ | not offhand, i'd have to read sf's info on their vhost stuff again |
| 17:57.49 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 17:57.52 | treke- | ok |
| 17:58.01 | prpplague | kergoth_: hehe, donna will set you up with one of her cousins, hehe |
| 17:58.05 | treke- | I'm setting up a couple temporary domains until this gets straightened out |
| 17:58.13 | kergoth_ | treke-: ah, good call |
| 17:59.00 | treke- | give easydns a call and see if there is anyway to reorder it as soon as you can :) |
| 17:59.36 | kergoth_ | hmm |
| 17:59.40 | kergoth_ | i have a presentation on wednesday |
| 17:59.44 | kergoth_ | which i havent really prepared for |
| 18:00.49 | treke- | you need a pda to remind you to do this stuff |
| 18:01.24 | pb_ | smart thinking |
| 18:01.48 | levi | Hrm. My problem seems to be coming from ld/Makefile not having the EMUL and EMUL_OFILES vars filled in by automake. |
| 18:03.38 | levi | Or rather, autoconf not filling in the vars. |
| 18:03.58 | kergoth_ | i'm not even sure what this presentation is supposed to cover, for gods sake |
| 18:04.00 | kergoth_ | hmm |
| 18:06.23 | levi | Anyone have any hints where to look for why @EMUL@ and @EMUL_OFILES@ aren't being filled in when Makefile.in becomes Makefile? |
| 18:08.44 | jobi | I'm trying to make a minisip_svn package |
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| 18:09.28 | jobi | my problem is it gets extracted to work/minisip, then oe tries to build it in work/minisip-0.6.2svn20041123/ |
| 18:10.56 | koen | jobi: S = ${WORKDIR}/${PN} |
| 18:10.59 | florian_kc | jobi: set S=${WORKDIR}/minisip in your .bb |
| 18:11.02 | koen | add that and it should work |
| 18:11.09 | jobi | thanks |
| 18:11.10 | florian_kc | heh |
| 18:11.12 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 18:12.49 | florian_kc | hrm.. no scap in oe? |
| 18:13.14 | pb_ | I wrote most of a .bb for scap the other day. I'm not sure I checked it in, though. |
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| 18:13.52 | florian_kc | ah right, here it is... |
| 18:15.41 | pb_ | later all |
| 18:16.26 | levi | Arg, one of my patches got screwed up and overwrote some config stuff. That must be where my problem came from. |
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| 18:22.49 | Cwiiis | kergoth: I have unionroot-utils working (although it doesn't survive suspend/resume yet), but I'm having some problems with postinst - unionroot needs to modify /etc/fstab and unionroot-utils needs to modify /etc/ipkg.conf, but when the postinst is run, it complains about permissions... Am I attempting something that isn't possible? |
| 18:22.56 | Cwiiis | kergoth_ rather |
| 18:23.20 | kergoth_ | postinst is generally run as root, unless you're at image creation time, not runtime. |
| 18:23.31 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 18:25.12 | jobi | it seems to me that the svn: method doesn't use $CVSDATE (it keeps downloading today's version) |
| 18:26.08 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Is there a way to alter files in a postinst at image creation time? |
| 18:26.16 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ? |
| 18:26.22 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: if its image creation time, the "D" variable is set. |
| 18:26.38 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: thats how our postinsts know to exit with an error if they cannot be run at image creation time |
| 18:26.41 | kergoth_ | D is the root of the rootfs |
| 18:26.48 | kergoth_ | you should be modifying ${D}/${sysconfdir}/fstab |
| 18:26.57 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: ah, ok, thanks :) |
| 18:26.58 | kergoth_ | unless you want to fuck up your desktops /etc/fstab |
| 18:26.59 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 18:27.06 | Cwiiis | That would explain a few things :p |
| 18:27.43 | kergoth_ | we cant chroot or anything, since the script probably needs to run things, and you cant run the arm binaries, obviously |
| 18:27.49 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 18:28.29 | koen | jobi: try running bitbake -D -D -D -D -D -b packages/minisip/minisip_svn.bb to see what vars it uses |
| 18:28.33 | kergoth_ | jobi: thats probably because you cant check out of svn by date. |
| 18:28.38 | kergoth_ | its like bk |
| 18:28.47 | kergoth_ | you can specify revision or changeset |
| 18:29.01 | kergoth_ | afaik |
| 18:29.14 | koen | so CVSDATE_minisip=97 would work? |
| 18:29.52 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.52 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.02 | kergoth_ | thats all that affects the command |
| 18:30.12 | kergoth_ | the 'rev' and 'proto' url args |
| 18:30.17 | koen | aha |
| 18:30.18 | kergoth_ | no bb vars |
| 18:30.34 | kergoth_ | might be worth teaching it to obey something CVSDATE-like |
| 18:30.48 | koen | I only checked the fetch.py to check if http was supported |
| 18:31.24 | kergoth_ | ah, i was wrong |
| 18:31.24 | kergoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.38 | kergoth_ | svn can check out by date, it figures out what revision to use |
| 18:31.44 | kergoth_ | should teach the fetcher to use it |
| 18:32.38 | CIA-5 | 03koen 07 * r1.2942 10openembedded/packages/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Add latest matchbox bits |
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| 18:33.18 | koen | wow, talk about CIA delays |
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| 19:03.42 | treke- | kergoth, call easydns |
| 19:05.17 | treke- | I love tormenting the cable company |
| 19:06.58 | RP | treke-: What have they done? |
| 19:07.11 | treke- | they were coming out to install some cable outlets |
| 19:07.41 | treke- | they came by and looked at the locations for them. Then decided they couldn't get enough people out today. |
| 19:07.51 | CosmicPenguin | How many people do they need? |
| 19:07.52 | treke- | I'm wondering if they will try to raise the price they quoted |
| 19:08.04 | treke- | CosmicPenguin: I'm guessing two or three |
| 19:08.34 | RP | treke-: I'd suspect they will if they can. They must be some seriously nasty locations to need *people*... |
| 19:08.48 | treke- | hehe |
| 19:09.06 | treke- | the last time cost us 150 bucks for 9 outlets. I wonder if they learned their lesson |
| 19:09.40 | treke- | that cost them some serious money |
| 19:09.54 | RP | In the UK, installing a telecoms outlet costs serious money... |
| 19:11.02 | RP | To getuse SDSL, it'd cost |
| 19:11.25 | treke- | this is just cable tv :) |
| 19:11.51 | RP | Ah :) |
| 19:12.06 | treke- | still a hell of a deal considering the work |
| 19:12.07 | RP | I was thinking this was more serious data connections... |
| 19:12.30 | RP | Our cable companies don't do internal wiring... |
| 19:12.40 | treke- | luckilly ours do :) |
| 19:12.41 | RP | They just wire to a termination point... |
| 19:13.05 | treke- | our normal wiring vendor would have charged us at least a thousand bucks for that amount of work |
| 19:13.36 | RP | SDSL which uses the same cabling as ADSL which I already have would cost me thounsands a year. I guess its the exchanhe equipment that costs... |
| 19:13.54 | treke- | thousands a year? |
| 19:14.03 | treke- | they don't just run it over your standard phone line there? |
| 19:14.21 | RP | Both are over standard phone lines |
| 19:14.44 | treke- | BT really does bend you over |
| 19:14.53 | RP | Cheap SDSL is £3200/year |
| 19:15.06 | RP | ADSL is £20/month mind... |
| 19:15.28 | treke- | dunno what SDSL runs per year, but ADSL here is probably about 20 pounds a month |
| 19:15.34 | treke- | not sure the current exchange rates |
| 19:15.42 | RP | BT has isn't advantages and disadvanatges. The advanatage is nearly everyone in the country will get ADSL eventually at the same price... |
| 19:16.00 | RP | BT has *its* |
| 19:17.02 | treke- | the big advantage is only one person to bitch at |
| 19:17.23 | RP | That's what you think... |
| 19:17.39 | RP | BT do the wires but you pick a provider... |
| 19:17.56 | RP | So the provider just blames BT when things go wrong and vice versa ;-) |
| 19:18.10 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what happens here too |
| 19:18.19 | RP | I use a company called f2s who are pretty good though... |
| 19:18.40 | treke- | here, I blame the provider, the provider blames their provider, and they blame the owner of the lines |
| 19:18.56 | RP | The only interruption to my internet connection was when the exchange in london its routed through caught fire :) |
| 19:19.44 | treke- | then the owner of the lines tells you to piss off and you run around in circles longer |
| 19:20.34 | treke- | took nearly two years to get a problem calling regular outages fixed |
| 19:20.35 | CosmicPenguin | Well - shit |
| 19:20.35 | CosmicPenguin | my first wiggle experience is not a good one |
| 19:20.42 | RP | treke- Sadly, I can believe it... |
| 19:21.09 | kergoth_ | heh, wiggle works fairly well, but it can be a bit .. overenthusastic about applying changes even with incorrect context (i.e. adding new lines when those lines were already added, with slight modifications, upstream) |
| 19:21.50 | treke- | RP, scary that the provider just didn't give a shit |
| 19:21.58 | kergoth_ | what i really want is an app to apply the .rej into the file as a cvs-like conflict, without wiggle's additional bits to apply patches even with incorrect context |
| 19:22.08 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 19:22.09 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I'm getting just a cryptic "Aborted" |
| 19:22.14 | kergoth_ | odd |
| 19:22.16 | kergoth_ | never seen that one |
| 19:22.25 | CosmicPenguin | I thought it might be a 64 bit thing, but it happens on my 32 bit box too |
| 19:22.26 | kergoth_ | woo, pstoedit is handy |
| 19:22.44 | CosmicPenguin | return code 134 |
| 19:22.45 | treke- | RP, and that was a T1 |
| 19:23.22 | RP | treke-: Ouch. You'd have thought they'd pay attention to a T1... |
| 19:23.47 | RP | I'd like a T1 line. Not a chance of getting one though :) |
| 19:23.52 | treke- | apparently not |
| 19:24.14 | treke- | our provider cared, but getting Verizon to care is a different story |
| 19:25.02 | RP | :-/ |
| 19:25.25 | treke- | I'm sure bt does more or less the same thing |
| 19:25.49 | RP | It will do. Thankfully I haven't witnessed it first hand... |
| 19:26.02 | treke- | one of the benefits of having little competition :) |
| 19:26.54 | RP | Do you have a regulator? I know OfTel (BT's regulator) can be rather nasty and BT do what they tell them which is something... |
| 19:27.07 | koen | does anybody have a buildable cvsdate for cairo? |
| 19:28.03 | treke- | RP, Don't know what is regulated and what isn't around here |
| 19:30.31 | RP | Knowing that the regulator exists can sometimes turn a company like BT into putty :) |
| 19:30.39 | treke- | hehe |
| 19:30.56 | treke- | in california I don't think the business side of things is strongly regulated |
| 19:31.28 | RP | Only our former nationalised companies are... |
| 19:32.10 | RP | Make sure us poor customers aren't abused... |
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| 19:37.26 | gremlin[it] | hi to all ... ;) |
| 19:37.39 | gremlin[it] | issue of the day ... : cairo :) |
| 19:38.00 | gremlin[it] | ? |
| 19:38.50 | koen | just expressing my general feeling againt cairo |
| 19:39.00 | koen | against even |
| 19:39.29 | gremlin[it] | i don't know the word 'stabs' .... now looking on dictionary |
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| 19:40.04 | treke- | RP, abusing the less fortunate is the american way |
| 19:41.35 | gremlin[it] | ok ... now i know a new word ;) |
| 19:42.03 | [g2] | kergoth_, where would I swipe the latest debian update-modules ? |
| 19:42.55 | gremlin[it] | let's try to solve the problem in a more general way ... what i have to do to build a subset of meta-gpe ? |
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| 19:44.07 | kergoth_ | [g2]: umm? |
| 19:44.13 | kergoth_ | [g2]: from .. debian.. perhaps? |
| 19:45.15 | [g2] | debian sarge ? |
| 19:46.16 | kergoth_ | unstable is always the best bet. anything else will be old |
| 19:46.32 | [g2] | thx |
| 19:46.49 | [g2] | http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/modutils looks to be 2.4 based |
| 19:47.00 | CosmicPenguin | most modutils are |
| 19:47.11 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 19:47.38 | kergoth_ | [g2]: 2.6 doesnt use modutils. |
| 19:48.10 | [g2] | module-init-tools ? |
| 19:49.12 | CIA-5 | 03zecke 07 * r1.2927.1.1 10openembedded/packages/openssl/openssl_0.9.7e.bb: |
| 19:49.12 | CIA-5 | OpenSSL 0.9.7e compile fix: |
| 19:49.12 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.05 | treke- | kergoth, did you call easydns? |
| 19:50.25 | gremlin[it] | cairo >>> The quilt meta-data in .pc/ are already in the version 2 format; nothing to do <<< |
| 19:52.10 | koen | gremlin[it]: use CVSDATE_cairo=20050123 |
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| 19:53.38 | florian | re |
| 19:53.38 | gremlin[it] | adding that line ad end of config.local right ? |
| 19:53.54 | koen | conf/local.conf |
| 19:54.02 | koen | any place in that file will do |
| 19:54.12 | gremlin[it] | thanks koen |
| 19:56.30 | treke- | openzaurus.oesources.org and openembedded.oesources.org should point to the various websites tomorrow |
| 19:56.31 | gremlin[it] | wow .. so patient koen !!! |
| 19:56.47 | koen | yeah |
| 19:57.32 | gremlin[it] | koen a question ... u work full time to oe ? |
| 19:57.40 | koen | nope |
| 19:58.09 | koen | I just have boring assignments to do |
| 19:58.31 | gremlin[it] | ohh |
| 19:59.26 | gremlin[it] | i play with oe at night ... during day i'm full at work ... and also some work at night some times ... |
| 19:59.49 | CIA-5 | 03koen 07 * r1.2943.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): fix matchbox 0.9.1 URIs to use 0.9 |
| 20:01.39 | gremlin[it] | koen ... same error ... |
| 20:01.58 | koen | hmmm, it worked over here |
| 20:02.04 | koen | have you bk pulled? |
| 20:02.09 | gremlin[it] | yes |
| 20:02.16 | koen | and cleaned the packages? |
| 20:02.26 | gremlin[it] | maybe no ... |
| 20:02.38 | koen | bitbake -c clean -b packages/glib-2.0/glib-2....... |
| 20:05.43 | gremlin[it] | ok retry ... |
| 20:05.52 | gremlin[it] | retrying |
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| 20:14.35 | kergoth_ | okay openembedded.org is paid and should return |
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| 20:16.12 | kergoth_ | heh, i wonder if gremlin realizes that the message he pasted wrt .pc isnt an error |
| 20:16.40 | kergoth_ | koen: i pushed a patch to make current cairo cvs compile.. didnt i? |
| 20:17.24 | koen | kergoth_: they broke cairo again today |
| 20:17.39 | koen | 20050123 works fine |
| 20:18.02 | kergoth_ | did they fix it upstream so we dotn need the patch now? |
| 20:18.05 | kergoth_ | or is it broken differently? |
| 20:18.13 | koen | didn't look at that |
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| 20:18.29 | kergoth_ | k |
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| 20:18.47 | gremlin[it] | here again ... my PC hang ;( :( |
| 20:19.13 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: for future reference, that message about quilt metadata isnt an error. |
| 20:19.18 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: the actual error was further down |
| 20:19.38 | [g2] | ~praise pb_ |
| 20:19.41 | ibot | All hail pb_! |
| 20:20.09 | gremlin[it] | ok kergoth |
| 20:22.17 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Is it possible for a postinst of a package to modify files from another package? D is defined to the package image dir it seems |
| 20:22.25 | prpplague | why are we praising pb_ ? |
| 20:22.49 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ? |
| 20:22.57 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: a postinst is, by definition, run against the image. |
| 20:23.03 | kergoth_ | touching anything ouside ${D} is _BAD_ |
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| 20:23.44 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: I know, but I need to change /etc/fstab and /etc/ipkg.conf for unionroot - Should I add something in the postinst of base-files and ipkg-collateral that checks if unionroot exists instead? |
| 20:24.10 | kergoth_ | ? |
| 20:24.32 | kergoth_ | D isnt defined to the package image dir |
| 20:24.36 | kergoth_ | at image creation time |
| 20:24.41 | kergoth_ | its defined to the rootfs, at image creation time |
| 20:24.43 | kergoth_ | oeimage overrides it |
| 20:24.53 | kergoth_ | once again, you want to be modifying ${D}/${sysconfdir}/fstab |
| 20:24.56 | kergoth_ | i told you this already |
| 20:25.17 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: That's what I'm doing, but I end up with "mv: cannot stat `/home/cwiiis/oe/build1/tmp/work/unionroot-utils-0.1-r0/image//etc/ipkg.conf': No such file or directory" |
| 20:25.29 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: then that package doesnt depend on the package that provides ipkg.conf |
| 20:25.37 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: how can you expect to modify a file that may or may not exist? |
| 20:25.41 | Cwiiis | ah, ok |
| 20:25.48 | kergoth_ | if you depend on ipkg.conf, you should DEPENDS and RDEPENDS on what includes it |
| 20:25.54 | Cwiiis | I see |
| 20:28.12 | gremlin[it] | ok error again .... i'll report all |
| 20:28.44 | gremlin[it] | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
| 20:28.46 | gremlin[it] | The quilt meta-data in .pc/ are already in the version 2 format; nothing to do |
| 20:28.46 | gremlin[it] | chmod: cannot access `patches/*': No such file or directory |
| 20:28.46 | gremlin[it] | Importing patch /mnt/hda/oe/stuff/openembedded/packages/cairo/cairo/status.patch (stored as status) |
| 20:28.46 | gremlin[it] | Applying patch status |
| 20:28.46 | gremlin[it] | patching file src/cairo_gstate.c |
| 20:28.48 | gremlin[it] | Hunk #1 FAILED at 45. |
| 20:28.50 | gremlin[it] | Hunk #2 FAILED at 2221. |
| 20:28.54 | gremlin[it] | 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file src/cairo_gstate.c |
| 20:28.56 | gremlin[it] | Patch status does not apply (enforce with -f) |
| 20:28.58 | gremlin[it] | <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
| 20:29.02 | kergoth_ | how can you _not_ figure out what the error is there? |
| 20:29.12 | kergoth_ | myself, when i see lines that say FAILED, i figure, hey, maybe those are the error messages. |
| 20:29.16 | kergoth_ | but maybe thats just me |
| 20:29.21 | zecke | kergoth_: do you know the difference between KT_LOCK and KT_SLOCK? |
| 20:29.32 | koen | kergoth_: those FAILED things are just a decoy |
| 20:29.34 | zecke | kergoth_: hehe |
| 20:29.58 | koen | the *real* error is hidden in a secret location |
| 20:30.32 | zecke | gremlin[it]: the patch does not apply at least at two locations |
| 20:30.55 | gremlin[it] | kergoth zecke ... i know that ... |
| 20:31.05 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: so you pasted "the quilt metadata" message only why? |
| 20:31.24 | kergoth_ | i think you need to develop your skill at identifying the error message in output |
| 20:31.33 | gremlin[it] | kergoth just to have the full message ... |
| 20:31.52 | zecke | gremlin[it]: so look at src/cairo_gstate.c and see why it doesnt apply |
| 20:31.53 | gremlin[it] | rewind all ... |
| 20:33.23 | gremlin[it] | i would like to be able to be able to build a full image for my ipaq ... at now i'm trying with familiar 0.8.1 with gpe frontend ... what distro i can set to have stable pacheges ? |
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| 20:33.48 | kergoth_ | zecke: let me think |
| 20:33.50 | kergoth_ | zecke: my memory is crap |
| 20:33.55 | kergoth_ | for details anyway |
| 20:35.47 | zecke | SLOCK for ShiftLock, but then again what should ALTGr_SHIFTLOCK be |
| 20:36.18 | zecke | it should be modified anyway... is a lock different to a normal modifier? |
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| 20:36.33 | kergoth_ | zecke: think capslock. |
| 20:36.44 | zecke | kergoth_: for me it was always sticky SHIFT |
| 20:36.44 | kergoth_ | iirc shiftlock is when you can, i.e., press fn, _then_ press the key |
| 20:36.48 | kergoth_ | and have that be key + fn |
| 20:37.12 | kergoth_ | which some users might expect, and is the way fn behaves in opie on some devices right now |
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| 20:38.28 | kergoth_ | shiftlock as fn = fn down, fn up, key down, key up -> fn+key down, fn+key up |
| 20:38.30 | kergoth_ | iirc |
| 20:38.44 | prpplague | kergoth_: hey, i've lost that url you gave me for the printascii patch for the 2.6 kernel, you got that handy? |
| 20:38.46 | zecke | kergoth_: ok currently we handle FN == ALT but I'll look into it more |
| 20:39.07 | kergoth_ | zecke: thats good, i like having fn mapped to a normal modifier |
| 20:39.25 | kergoth_ | bleh |
| 20:39.28 | zecke | kergoth_: probably you added that part because of that :) |
| 20:39.37 | zecke | prpplague: quite easy, enable low level debugging |
| 20:39.52 | zecke | prpplague: and where printk is defined use printascii |
| 20:40.24 | kergoth_ | zecke: i had a tiny little patch that just added a new config option under CONFIG_DEBUG depending on CONFIG_LL.. "use ll for printk output" |
| 20:40.25 | prpplague | zecke: ahh i wasn't waware that printascii had been added to the 2.6 kernel |
| 20:40.36 | prpplague | kergoth_: yea thats the one |
| 20:40.54 | kergoth_ | its handy since you dont have to unapply the damn patch when you want to disable that verbosity |
| 20:41.00 | kergoth_ | double messages once you're going is annoying |
| 20:41.02 | kergoth_ | and i'm lazy |
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| 20:41.39 | reenoo_ | evening |
| 20:41.43 | pb_ | hi reenoo_ |
| 20:41.45 | zecke | kergoth_: lazy is good |
| 20:41.49 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 20:42.09 | kergoth_ | prpplague: http://hyperion.kergoth.com/dl/debug-ll-printk |
| 20:42.15 | koen | opencool: try florian in #gpe |
| 20:42.29 | koen | *sigh* |
| 20:42.33 | reenoo_ | hey pb_ |
| 20:42.35 | koen | wrong window again |
| 20:42.36 | prpplague | kergoth_: thanks |
| 20:42.38 | kergoth_ | np |
| 20:42.45 | pb_ | koen: heh |
| 20:46.05 | CIA-5 | 03koen 07 * r1.2945.1.1 10openembedded/packages/matchbox-desktop/matchbox-desktop_0.9.1.bb: change mb-desktop SRC_URI to fetch from o-hand.com instead of hh.org |
| 20:46.15 | zecke | kergoth_: can you tell me the name of the cmd line tool printing out key names? |
| 20:46.27 | kergoth_ | showkey? |
| 20:46.37 | pb_ | hrm, matchbox-wm_0.9.1 does not build for me |
| 20:46.39 | pb_ | who added that? |
| 20:47.14 | koen | pb_: me |
| 20:47.30 | pb_ | make[4]: Entering directory `/home/pb/oe/build-h3900/tmp/work/matchbox-wm-0.9.1-r0/matchbox-window-manager-0.9.1/data/themes/MBOpus' |
| 20:47.30 | pb_ | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `panelbg.png', needed by `all-am'. Stop. |
| 20:47.30 | pb_ | make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/pb/oe/build-h3900/tmp/work/matchbox-wm-0.9.1-r0/matchbox-window-manager-0.9.1/data/themes/MBOpus' |
| 20:47.33 | pb_ | that's the error I get |
| 20:47.40 | koen | yeah, I mailed mallum about it |
| 20:47.51 | kergoth_ | flag it BROKEN? |
| 20:47.51 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 20:47.53 | pb_ | so it fails for you as well? |
| 20:48.08 | kergoth_ | er, default_preference, that is |
| 20:48.11 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 20:48.12 | koen | pb_: yeah, I'm attempting to fix it |
| 20:48.13 | pb_ | ~lart koen for making the default version be one that doesn't build |
| 20:48.21 | koen | oh dear |
| 20:48.27 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 20:48.33 | koen | I didn't push the DEFAULT_PREDERENE thing |
| 20:48.37 | pb_ | crumbs, that was a wordy lart |
| 20:48.51 | florian | :-) |
| 20:49.16 | pb_ | koen: ok, cool. please reduce the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE until it works. |
| 20:49.18 | kergoth_ | someone should make the real 'at' and 'cron' support using the rtc alarm interrupt to wake up if necessary |
| 20:49.21 | kergoth_ | someday |
| 20:50.38 | pb_ | yeah, good idea |
| 20:51.20 | kergoth_ | course with cron, you'd probably want some sort of 'do we go back to sleep after this' flag, or so |
| 20:51.23 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 20:52.00 | koen | ok, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE lowered |
| 20:52.20 | koen | ~lart ticks in citool |
| 20:53.17 | pb_ | kergoth: yeah. though the whole area of wakeup/resume policy is a bit unsatisfactory at the moment. |
| 20:54.03 | pb_ | it isn't currently possible for a userspace program to request anything other than a full wakeup, which kind of sucks. If you just want to do maintenance every ten minutes and then go back to sleep, you don't want the screen coming on and all the resume.d scripts running. |
| 20:54.13 | kergoth_ | perhaps we need some sort of central suspend/resume policy authority library that people go through to do such things |
| 20:54.36 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, hell yeah |
| 20:55.05 | kergoth_ | ah well |
| 20:55.05 | CosmicPenguin | A policy manager that understand individual devices |
| 20:55.08 | pb_ | similarly, if you're configured to do wakeup-on-bluetooth, you'd want hcid to be able to inspect the incoming request and decide whether it's really worth waking up for, before all the heavy stuff starts happening. |
| 20:55.17 | RP | It'd have to be at kernel level :-/ |
| 20:55.26 | kergoth_ | yeah |
| 20:55.35 | kergoth_ | that stuff has been discussed before. i talked to david brownell about that at ols. |
| 20:55.47 | CosmicPenguin | Nah - the policy could be established in userland - like how DPMS works |
| 20:55.54 | RP | I'm having enough problems fitting the "normal" power code in... |
| 20:55.55 | kergoth_ | a cpufreq like policy manager in each struct device would do |
| 20:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: exactly |
| 20:56.50 | RP | CosmicPenguin: I meant a mechanism for acting on that policy would be required at kernel level... |
| 20:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | RP: right, but nothing more then what already exists |
| 20:57.13 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: I've depended/rdepended on the relevant packages, but it's still not finding the files... Any idea what I'm doing wrong? |
| 20:57.30 | CosmicPenguin | the devices would still have their callbacks |
| 20:57.31 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: did ipkg install the packages you depended on before you? |
| 20:57.37 | RP | CosmicPenguin: What already exists? I must have missed something... |
| 20:58.03 | RP | There is no way for a device to say yes or no to a wakeup call... |
| 20:58.13 | CosmicPenguin | RP: oh, from that direction sure |
| 20:58.28 | CosmicPenguin | RP: but its not like you need to hack each device horribly |
| 20:58.59 | CosmicPenguin | The horrible hacking would be in the policy framework |
| 20:59.00 | kergoth_ | the agent just arbitrates when devices change power management states and when they dont, really. when the system is attempting an overall state change, then the agents need to be consulted |
| 20:59.20 | CosmicPenguin | That, and teaching each individual callback how to manage more states then just D0 and D3 |
| 20:59.58 | kergoth_ | really need a sysfs attribute for whether or not the device is idle, or operating at a given level of functionality |
| 21:00.04 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Yes, they get installed and configured before this package |
| 21:00.15 | kergoth_ | do you let the user indicate that they are willing to operate at a degraded level of functionality? |
| 21:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | I think so |
| 21:00.43 | kergoth_ | i.e. lowered frequencies to cut battery consumption, or suspended individual devices that take a certain amount of time to power back up |
| 21:01.22 | CosmicPenguin | Right |
| 21:01.39 | RP | Really some kind of core power manager is needed... The sharp charger is probably the ultimate extreme... |
| 21:01.50 | CosmicPenguin | Also, you would use the userland policy to restrict devices, ie "don't wake on activity, ever because we're less then 10% battery" |
| 21:02.14 | RP | For that we intercept the processor restarting, work out if AC as inserted/removed etc. change GPIOs accordingly, then sleep... |
| 21:02.14 | CosmicPenguin | In other words, at all times indicate the acceptable range of D states for each device |
| 21:02.58 | kergoth_ | all this musing about what the policy manager should let the user do is well and good, but someone needs to nail down exactly what mechanisms need to be added to the kernel to facilitate it |
| 21:03.04 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
| 21:03.07 | kergoth_ | most of this is just policy manager specific stuff |
| 21:03.27 | CosmicPenguin | I've currently tasked with a similar process |
| 21:03.32 | kergoth_ | as long as the agent gets called at appropriate times, you're a good percentage of the way there |
| 21:03.57 | CosmicPenguin | I've been grocking the struct device code and trying to determine the best way to proceed |
| 21:03.58 | kergoth_ | just need a way for the driver to indicate degraded functionality, how long it's been idle, etc |
| 21:04.03 | gremlin[it] | mhh i'm still looking to find the problem with cairo ... |
| 21:04.05 | CosmicPenguin | I've got to play with ACPI too |
| 21:04.07 | kergoth_ | i'd start with juts getting the agents rolling |
| 21:04.08 | CosmicPenguin | bleh |
| 21:04.35 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: ideally acpi should really be an under the hood thing |
| 21:04.41 | gremlin[it] | what i don-t undertsand is that seem there is problem applying a patch ... but where are patch ?!??! is a cvs snapshot ! |
| 21:04.43 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: there's no reason the user needs to know or care about acpi |
| 21:04.46 | kergoth_ | or apm |
| 21:04.48 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: exactly |
| 21:04.53 | kergoth_ | just have a single mechanism and those are backends |
| 21:05.10 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: and thats what I want to get to |
| 21:05.21 | kergoth_ | thatd be very nice |
| 21:05.22 | CosmicPenguin | ACPI and APM are just ways to manage the states and (in the case of ACPI) devices |
| 21:05.48 | CosmicPenguin | where as today, its all a mish mash - you write a 0 to sysfs/bus/blah/<device>/power, it does different things then an S3 in ACPI |
| 21:06.00 | CosmicPenguin | w.r.t the device, I mean |
| 21:08.32 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: should get a group of people together, a working group, to hash this out. heh, wonder if CELF has anything on that yet |
| 21:08.48 | kergoth_ | bleh, need more caffeine |
| 21:09.22 | gremlin[it] | found .... sem that patch providen by oe is already applied in the cairo cvs ! |
| 21:09.34 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Is there another package you know of that modifies a file from another package that I can look at as an example? |
| 21:09.39 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: figured that might be it |
| 21:09.43 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ? |
| 21:09.56 | gremlin[it] | kergoth how i can proceed now ? |
| 21:10.04 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: generally mangling files from postinsts is ugly, i dont know of any other packages doing so at the moment. |
| 21:10.14 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: its generally only done when there's no alternative |
| 21:10.27 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I'm not sure if CELF has anything private, the public stuff is pretty much just dealing with voltage stepping |
| 21:10.54 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: I can't think of an alternative that isn't very long-winded... |
| 21:11.09 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: right, the poitn was, this is likely the first situation where there truly is no alternative. |
| 21:11.18 | Cwiiis | ah, ok |
| 21:11.25 | kergoth_ | since it tends to be avoided |
| 21:11.52 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: you can wait a few minutes for me to push a cset yanking the patch |
| 21:12.30 | gremlin[it] | kergoth oh ok ... just would learn how to provide u a patch :) |
| 21:12.50 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: So when a package DEPENDS/RDEPENDS on another package, during image creation, all the depends are copied into the image dir of that package? |
| 21:13.05 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ? |
| 21:13.14 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: RDEPENDS becomes the Depends: field in the ipk. |
| 21:13.18 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ipkg obeys Depends. |
| 21:13.20 | Cwiiis | Right, ok |
| 21:13.22 | kergoth_ | its that simple |
| 21:13.34 | kergoth_ | however, i'm not sure if postinsts are currently executed in dependency order |
| 21:13.36 | kergoth_ | probably not |
| 21:13.38 | kergoth_ | which would explain this :) |
| 21:13.51 | zecke | kergoth_: could KG_ be all possible modifiers? |
| 21:13.53 | kergoth_ | that should probably be fixed |
| 21:13.55 | Cwiiis | hmm :/ Looking at the log though, it does happen in the right order, even if coincidentally... |
| 21:13.59 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 21:14.56 | kergoth_ | zecke: iirc a "modifier" is just a switch to an alternate map in the map table, right? the user is allowed to add custom maps, so in theory you could create new modifiers. dunno if we really want to get into that though |
| 21:15.16 | kergoth_ | brb |
| 21:16.05 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: bk pull http://oe-devel.bkbits.net/openembedded |
| 21:16.14 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: run that in your openembedded dir |
| 21:16.56 | kergoth_ | zecke: afaik 'pushd' and 'popd' aren't very portable. I don't think busybox ash supports them, so you should probably just use 'cd' in your openssl change |
| 21:17.05 | kergoth_ | zecke: i dont like seeing bashisms or other nonportable shell in .bb's |
| 21:17.56 | gremlin[it] | kergoth ok .. first i try to compile ... |
| 21:18.38 | gremlin[it] | mhh i suppose is ok .. i'm already at do_compile step of cairo :) |
| 21:19.44 | gremlin[it] | mhhh ... >>> takepatch: packages/cairo/SCCS/s.cairo_cvs.bb is edited and modified; unsafe to overwrite. |
| 21:19.44 | gremlin[it] | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.52 | zecke | kergoth_: ok |
| 21:20.03 | zecke | kergoth_: will change it immediately |
| 21:20.11 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: you can remove your local modifications using 'bk unedit' |
| 21:20.16 | kergoth_ | gremlin[it]: bk unedit packages/cairo/cairo_cvs.bb |
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| 21:20.51 | kergoth_ | zecke: thanks |
| 21:21.08 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Is there a variable defined during image-creation postinst that points to tmp/rootfs by any chance? |
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| 21:23.44 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 21:24.05 | florian | hey Pigi |
| 21:26.52 | treke- | kergoth, what about openzaurus.org? |
| 21:28.59 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: ? |
| 21:29.08 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: what do you think ${D} points to? |
| 21:29.19 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Oh, well that's my problem then - because it isn't pointing to that |
| 21:29.25 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: hm? |
| 21:29.58 | kergoth_ | sounds like a bug then. patch the bbclass to fix it |
| 21:30.36 | kergoth_ | or make sure that a different var is exported with the rootfs path in it. it was intended to be ${D} originally. |
| 21:30.46 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: As part of my postinst, I have "mv ${D}/${sysconfdir}/fstab ${D}/${sysconfdir}/fstab.old" - That fails with "mv: cannot stat `/home/cwiiis/oe/build1/tmp/work/unionroot-0.1-r1/image//etc/fstab': No such file or directory" - Will do |
| 21:31.09 | kergoth_ | yeah, thats not right |
| 21:31.53 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: At a guess, I should be looking at the image_ipk.bbclass, right? |
| 21:32.13 | zecke | kergoth_: fixed |
| 21:35.12 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: no, this is a function of rootfs population, not image creation |
| 21:35.17 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: rootfs_ipk.bbclass |
| 21:35.28 | Cwiiis | kergoth_: Ah ok, thanks |
| 21:35.37 | Pigi | hi florian |
| 21:35.50 | Pigi | welcome back kergoth_ |
| 21:36.22 | kergoth_ | Cwiiis: do something like a 'export D="${IMAGE_ROOTFS}"' in real_do_rootfs just before the 'sh $i configure' on the postinst |
| 21:36.43 | kergoth_ | Pigi: thanks |
| 21:37.13 | Pigi | have you read my messages ? |
| 21:37.49 | kergoth | yeah, pb_ told me about 138 a few minutes after i sent you the botmail :) |
| 21:37.59 | kergoth | dunno if its in oe yet |
| 21:38.23 | koen | kergoth: it is |
| 21:38.29 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:38.34 | Pigi | ok. Well, I'm happy the problem was that one. I was afraid for another problem :) |
| 21:38.40 | Cwiiis | kergoth: That line's already there :/ (not just before the configure, but near it) |
| 21:38.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:38.44 | Pigi | s/another/other |
| 21:38.56 | kergoth | Cwiiis: stop using ${D}. |
| 21:39.01 | kergoth | Cwiiis: you should be using $D |
| 21:39.06 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Ah. |
| 21:39.06 | kergoth | Cwiiis: the bug is in your postinst |
| 21:39.21 | kergoth | ${D} is expanded by oe before its ever emitted |
| 21:39.24 | kergoth | $D is runtime |
| 21:39.26 | kergoth | s/oe/bitbake/ |
| 21:40.57 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Thanks :) Will just make sure that works and push it |
| 21:41.02 | kergoth | np |
| 21:41.45 | kergoth | i spent the entire weekend avoiding productivity, playing games with my bro and stuff. |
| 21:41.49 | kergoth | which is why i wasnt around |
| 21:41.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:42.15 | treke- | back in minnesota? |
| 21:42.16 | Pigi | you did the right things kergoth :) |
| 21:42.31 | kergoth | treke-: openembedded.org, easydns isnt the registrar, they resold, so i had to pay to renew + wait 60 days to xfer that one |
| 21:42.42 | kergoth | treke-: openzaurus.org they're the registrar, so i'm just xfering it to godaddy immediately |
| 21:42.47 | kergoth | waiting for an authorization code from them |
| 21:42.57 | treke- | kergoth: oh the openzaurus.org didn't get canceled as well? |
| 21:42.59 | treke- | cool |
| 21:42.59 | kergoth | naw, was playing NWN online |
| 21:43.04 | treke- | ah nwn |
| 21:43.05 | treke- | fun game |
| 21:43.07 | kergoth | yeah, openzaurus.org was late on my payment, but not yet expired |
| 21:43.09 | kergoth | yea |
| 21:43.17 | kergoth | just bought him a copy of hordes of the underdark |
| 21:43.24 | treke- | I bought that a while back |
| 21:43.29 | kergoth | i like it |
| 21:43.30 | treke- | never got around to installing it :) |
| 21:43.54 | kergoth | more prestige classes, pretty decent storyline, max char level of 40, epic feats and stuff for chars above 20 |
| 21:43.57 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 21:44.20 | treke- | I made it through the first chapter of NWN and ended up losing my save data |
| 21:44.25 | treke- | really didn't want to just start over |
| 21:44.31 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:44.53 | kergoth | i've played through a number of times now with different characters, trying various multiclassing combinations and the like |
| 21:45.13 | treke- | one of these days I'll try reinstalling it |
| 21:45.22 | kergoth | i went to buy hordes right |
| 21:45.23 | kergoth | it was $30 |
| 21:45.34 | kergoth | nwn platinum, which is nwn, shadows of undrentide, and hordes |
| 21:45.35 | kergoth | is $40 |
| 21:45.49 | treke- | oh maybe it's shadows of undrentide that I bought |
| 21:46.01 | kergoth | hordes is the 2nd expansion, sou is the first |
| 21:46.06 | treke- | ah |
| 21:46.07 | kergoth | both are pretty good |
| 21:46.20 | treke- | that game sat on my shelf for so long waiting for binaries :) |
| 21:46.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:46.52 | treke- | bioware handled their linux port pretty badly, even though the end result was good |
| 21:47.35 | kergoth | you'd think it wouldnt be that difficult to release both versions simultaniously |
| 21:47.38 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:48.30 | kergoth | ugh, forgot about the iso audit this week |
| 21:48.30 | treke- | that was exactly their problem |
| 21:48.40 | kergoth | here's hoping i dont do something stupid and screw up ti's iso compliance :) |
| 21:48.56 | treke- | up until they released nwn they pretended that they were porting the game simultaneously |
| 21:49.17 | treke- | right before release they mentioned that they didn't have mouse handling, sound, video, or really anything working |
| 21:49.44 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 21:49.47 | zecke | kergoth: stay at home |
| 21:49.49 | kergoth | thats not exactly simultanious |
| 21:49.54 | treke- | yeah |
| 21:50.01 | Cwiiis | Finally, can commit unionroot-utils :) |
| 21:50.04 | kergoth | zecke: hehe. my boss told us if we hadnt already gotten our vacations in, we werent going to be avoiding it :) |
| 21:50.07 | kergoth | Cwiiis: cool |
| 21:50.23 | Cwiiis | Should probably revise for that exam in a couple of days after this... |
| 21:50.23 | treke- | what is involved in ISO compliance? |
| 21:50.27 | zecke | kergoth: couldn't he have told that in advance? |
| 21:51.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:51.13 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.15 | kergoth | one of my coworkers managed to get his week long vacation setup for this week |
| 21:51.22 | kergoth | not sure how he managed that |
| 21:51.28 | kergoth | my boss must have not been paying attention |
| 21:51.50 | kergoth | treke-: 9000 is quality, basically document your processes, and follow them |
| 21:51.59 | kergoth | treke-: even if the prcoesses suck ass, that doesnt matter, as long as you follow them |
| 21:52.02 | treke- | hmm tha's easy |
| 21:52.08 | kergoth | yeah, not to bad |
| 21:52.10 | treke- | our process is "tell greg to do it" |
| 21:52.12 | treke- | and I do it |
| 21:52.14 | kergoth | know where the policies are documented and stuff |
| 21:52.16 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:52.21 | kergoth | is that documented? :) |
| 21:52.35 | treke- | I'm looking for a pen |
| 21:52.49 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.56 | koen | kergoth: do you have a working CVSDATE for libsvgcairo? |
| 21:53.14 | kergoth | not offhand |
| 21:53.17 | kergoth | i havent seen it fail yet |
| 21:53.55 | kergoth | zecke: its pretty common amongst computer hardware manufacturers. most major customers refuse to deal with anyone who isnt iso compliant |
| 21:54.16 | kergoth | so if you fuck up them getting it, kiss your job goodbye :) |
| 21:54.19 | gremlin[it] | koen ... maybe was a little problem ... |
| 21:54.39 | gremlin[it] | seem new cvs version already have a patch oe try to apply |
| 21:55.00 | gremlin[it] | oe now is updated |
| 21:55.00 | treke- | I suspect TI has a reserve stock of booze and hookers to make sure they keep their ceritifcation |
| 21:57.38 | kergoth | gremlin[it]: cairo != libsvgcairo :) |
| 21:58.17 | gremlin[it] | DHO ... i have to read better !! !and payd more attention !!! |
| 21:58.22 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:01.39 | Pigi | bbl |
| 22:01.54 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2947 10openembedded/packages/meta/task-bootstrap-unionroot.bb: Add task-bootstrap-unionroot. Allows images to be created with unionroot and unionroot-utils, with no modification. |
| 22:02.04 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2946 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add unionroot-utils - mount and umount for a unionroot-based system. |
| 22:02.10 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2945 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/ (unionroot_0.1.bb unionroot/init.unionroot): Update unionroot and make it ok for unionroot-utils |
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| 22:02.42 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2943 10openembedded/packages/ipkg/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Change dests to use subdirs on external media. |
| 22:02.42 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2942 10openembedded/packages/base-files/base-files_3.0.14.bb: Create mount-points for unionroot in base-files |
| 22:02.50 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.26.113 10openembedded/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Merge |
| 22:03.02 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.26.112 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (2 files): Merge (re-enable unionfs 1.0.6) |
| 22:03.11 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.26.111 10openembedded/BitKeeper/deleted/ (4 files): Disable unionfs 1.0.6 (it doesn't build) |
| 22:03.34 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.26.110 10openembedded/packages/ (sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb busybox/busybox_1.00.bb): Merge |
| 22:03.43 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.77.2 10openembedded/packages/busybox/ (files/umount.busybox files/mount.busybox busybox_1.00.bb): Make busybox use update-altnernatives for mount/umount |
| 22:03.49 | CIA-5 | 03cwiiis 07 * r1.2759.77.1 10openembedded/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: Fix silly typo in sysvinit (postinstall -> postinst) - sorry! |
| 22:05.05 | gremlin[it] | DHO ...i'm so close to finish and so much patch for tomorrow !!! :) :) :) :) |
| 22:05.10 | gremlin[it] | good night to alllll |
| 22:05.19 | koen | night gremlin[it] |
| 22:05.29 | kergoth | Cwiiis: you changed the dests to use subdirs on external media.. thats well and good, but then all the users will have to reinstall everything, right? since ipkg will no longer be aware of their previous package installations..? |
| 22:05.42 | kergoth | unless i'm missing something |
| 22:06.09 | koen | kergoth: only when the update ipkg |
| 22:06.26 | koen | and a mv * newdir should work afaict |
| 22:06.35 | kergoth | i'm thinking about the next oz and fam releases |
| 22:06.41 | Cwiiis | kergoth: ipkg.conf could be changed to maintain compatability with the next OZ release - pb_ thought the change was ok, can always change it back though |
| 22:06.43 | kergoth | and all the users thatll be bitching about their apps not working |
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| 22:07.01 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Without that though, unionroot becomes a bit messy |
| 22:07.15 | kergoth | as long as its noted in the release notes, thats fine. i just want to make sure it doesnt get forgotten, or our support load will increase substantially |
| 22:07.23 | kergoth | (which it will anyway, but at least we can tell them to rtfm this way) |
| 22:07.39 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Shall I make a page of to-be-included release notes for 3.5.3 on the wiki? |
| 22:07.48 | kergoth | that might be a good idea, yeah |
| 22:07.56 | kergoth | so things dont get forgotten |
| 22:08.03 | koen | add an autoreply containing: Read the releasenotes if you haven't allready |
| 22:08.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:08.28 | koen | or add some js quiz to the download page |
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| 22:11.04 | RP | Hmmm. Noone has replied to my mails to linux-fbdevel or linux-input :-/ |
| 22:11.17 | kergoth | email to linux input? what about? leds? |
| 22:11.32 | RP | keyboard drivers... |
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| 22:11.49 | kergoth | ah right, pushing upstream? |
| 22:11.58 | RP | Yes, and checking a couple of things... |
| 22:12.06 | kergoth | cool |
| 22:12.24 | RP | They talked about a couple of things as if I wasn't there and ignored my question... |
| 22:12.36 | Cwiiis | kergoth: OpenZaurusPreReleaseNotes sound an ok page-name? And should I link it from the main page? (This is the first time I've seen the new wiki) |
| 22:13.34 | kergoth | thats fine. not sure, perhaps we should have seperate pages for OE vs OZ stuff |
| 22:13.42 | kergoth | the old main page got awfully cluttered |
| 22:14.24 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Perhaps an OE-based Distributions section on the main page with links off to pages about specific distros? |
| 22:15.11 | kergoth | shrug. we want it broken out enough to not be confusing, but not so much as to be annoying :) |
| 22:15.41 | Cwiiis | hehe, I'll try my best :s |
| 22:15.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:16.00 | kergoth | wiki layout had been discussed on the mailing lists before, could always send an email out |
| 22:16.09 | kergoth | 'now that we're transitioning to the new wiki, any ideas on layout?' |
| 22:16.10 | kergoth | or so |
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| 22:20.15 | CosmicPenguin | It would be nice if each distribution had their own web area, al-la sourceforge |
| 22:20.26 | CosmicPenguin | But thats a lot of work |
| 22:20.54 | kergoth | preferably something _like_ sourceforge, but definately not sourceforge |
| 22:21.10 | CosmicPenguin | that goes without saying |
| 22:21.14 | treke- | unless it's like the real sourceforge |
| 22:21.15 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:21.20 | treke- | that's pretty fucking sweet looking |
| 22:21.38 | CosmicPenguin | But mabye just something that listed the feed URL, release notes, news, etc... |
| 22:25.51 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Have added some pages to OE, hopefully I've done it in a reasonable fashion - I'll leave it to others with more time to flesh it out :) |
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| 22:32.35 | reenoo_ | I'm off to bed. 'night all |
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| 22:50.27 | treke- | I finally have an OE image built |
| 22:50.35 | treke- | wonder what my chances of it booting with 2.6.11 are |
| 22:51.04 | CosmicPenguin | 3 |
| 22:51.36 | levi | Grr, my gcc-cross-3.3.3 libiberty won't build. Dies in the config script complaining that gcc doesn't produce executables. |
| 22:56.20 | mallum | kergoth, did you get a chance to do anything with libiw ? |
| 22:56.26 | kergoth | levi: check config.log |
| 22:56.42 | kergoth | mallum: havent today, working on a presentation |
| 22:56.53 | koen | crap |
| 22:57.49 | kergoth | koen: heh, forgot about one you have to do? |
| 22:57.54 | koen | yes |
| 22:58.12 | koen | I mixed up tuesday and tuesady next week |
| 22:58.16 | kergoth | ack |
| 22:58.19 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 22:58.57 | koen | at least I have the images they expect |
| 22:59.32 | koen | double crap |
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| 22:59.46 | koen | that also mean the report is due thursday |
| 23:01.00 | ggilbert | koen: Is a current 0.8.1 build mostly functional? |
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| 23:01.49 | mallum | kergoth, just send me what you have if you want I can finish it off |
| 23:02.08 | koen | means* |
| 23:02.30 | koen | treke: yes, only libsvg-cairo fails over here |
| 23:02.36 | treke | cool. |
| 23:02.48 | levi | kergoth: Says something about ld not finding -lnosys |
| 23:03.06 | treke | just got my hands on an ipaq again, figured I'd toss together an image for myself and rodkey :) |
| 23:03.10 | zecke | kergoth: http://handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/tmp/kernel-keymap-for-mickeyl.patch |
| 23:03.33 | zecke | kergoth: if you're lucky could you check why setting the LED doesn't work? |
| 23:03.47 | koen | treke: what model? |
| 23:03.51 | treke | 3850 |
| 23:04.10 | treke | I should probably build oe for my 2200 as well |
| 23:04.14 | koen | those are pretty decent |
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| 23:04.22 | treke | yeah |
| 23:04.58 | treke | I've never actually gotten linux booting on that |
| 23:08.29 | florian | good night all |
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| 23:15.05 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:16.01 | kergoth | ~emulate brian |
| 23:16.02 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, emulate brian is Hey, barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a dry martini around here? |
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| 23:22.28 | CosmicPenguin | stupid ibot |
| 23:23.03 | kergoth | ~emulate brian |
| 23:23.04 | ibot | Hey, Peter, it's seven o'clock and you've still got your pants on. What's the occassion? |
| 23:23.23 | treke- | ~emulate stewie |
| 23:23.24 | ibot | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 23:24.25 | chouimat | ~emulate stewie |
| 23:24.26 | ibot | Damn you, broccoli. |
| 23:24.28 | levi | Gah. I can't figure out why it's looking for libnosys. |
| 23:25.24 | levi | I don't either. |
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| 23:26.25 | CosmicPenguin | mmm... flow charting |
| 23:30.04 | levi | It's stuck in my gcc cross-compiler, though. |
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| 23:39.40 | RP | treke-: If you try 2.6.11, let me know how it goes |
| 23:39.48 | treke- | I flashed it |
| 23:39.56 | treke- | now I'm waiting for my device to turn back on |
| 23:40.52 | RP | It should just jump straight in with a bootup... |
| 23:41.12 | treke- | yeah it didn't |
| 23:41.16 | treke- | so I power cycled it |
| 23:42.11 | treke- | not coming on. maybe it was low on power |
| 23:42.32 | RP | If you share the kernel you |
| 23:42.38 | RP | 're using I'll try it here |
| 23:42.59 | RP | This is husky isn;t it? |
| 23:43.05 | treke- | jah |
| 23:43.14 | treke- | technically it's boxer |
| 23:43.24 | treke- | but as far as I can tell that is irrelevant |
| 23:43.32 | RP | yes, it should be... |
| 23:43.52 | treke- | when I looked through the code I don't remember that affecting anything besides usb |
| 23:44.27 | RP | What does it change on USB? |
| 23:44.47 | treke- | the device name |
| 23:45.15 | treke- | http://ent.brooks.edu/~ggilbert/zImage-openzaurus-pxa-2.6-20050123182556.bin |
| 23:45.15 | RP | right... :) |
| 23:45.59 | treke- | just the device name reported. As far as I could tell, the only difference between CONFIG_HUSKY and CONFIG_BOXER was whether the device called itself a 760 or 860 |
| 23:46.30 | RP | I guess that much is understandable. Users would get upset if it appeared the same :) |
| 23:46.51 | treke- | yeah looks like this is not booting |
| 23:47.00 | treke- | I can load up the flash menu just fine |
| 23:47.10 | treke- | but I just get a black screen when I hit power on the back |
| 23:47.20 | RP | The image looks very small... |
| 23:47.28 | treke- | 1.1 megs? |
| 23:48.15 | treke- | that looked about right for a kernel to me |
| 23:49.24 | RP | Thinking about it, it is about right... |
| 23:49.36 | treke- | do I need to use a different updater.sh than the 3.5.1 updater? |
| 23:49.41 | RP | My recent ones with debugging are 40kb larger which is confusing me... |
| 23:49.49 | RP | No. T |
| 23:49.57 | RP | That kernel isn't working here either |
| 23:50.03 | treke- | hrm |
| 23:50.09 | RP | I'll try it on a serial console see what its doing... |
| 23:50.16 | treke- | k. I don't have one of those :p |
| 23:50.56 | treke- | Built this last night and I'm using the latest bb's as of about noon today |
| 23:51.36 | RP | Nothing on the serial port either. That is one dead image... |
| 23:51.41 | treke- | hehe |
| 23:51.47 | treke- | lemme clean and rebuild the kernel |
| 23:51.56 | RP | hold one second |
| 23:52.47 | RP | do a bk pull now and you'll get the touchscreen fixes mickeyl confirmed today |
| 23:52.47 | treke- | holding |
| 23:53.04 | RP | That wouldn't stop it booting but as I was about to commit them... |
| 23:53.27 | treke- | and we know that bb builds to a working kernel |
| 23:53.43 | RP | I'll try it here, just to be sure |
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| 23:55.20 | RP | I should probably wipe some of my sources directory just to make sure I haven't got something cached I shouldn't have... |
| 23:56.02 | treke- | ot |
| 23:56.11 | treke- | it'll just take a minute or two for a new build |
| 23:56.17 | treke- | I love compiling the kernel :p |
| 23:56.59 | RP | *reflashing* |
| 23:57.45 | RP | and its broken :-/ |
| 23:58.14 | treke- | hehehe |
| 23:58.23 | RP | treke-: For now use http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/zImage6 which is known working |
| 23:58.27 | treke- | Sorry for testing this so late at night :p |
| 23:58.52 | treke- | cool thanks |
| 23:59.08 | RP | np. I have a working tree here and a none working one... I'll have to work out what's different between them... |