| 00:00.08 | kergoth | or, alternatively, $(/path/to/the/binary) |
| 00:00.26 | emte | no i am piping the output from the command into a variable |
| 00:00.34 | kergoth | pb_: opinion on http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/PerformanceMeasurement ? trying to throw together an overview of the available tools |
| 00:00.38 | kergoth | huh? |
| 00:00.42 | Pendalar | I don't even know what $80 CAD amounts to.. more or less needing spare parts |
| 00:00.55 | Pendalar | spare battery would be nice if I had a sep charger |
| 00:01.16 | emte | i am trying to get it to search for its dependant program locations |
| 00:01.19 | kergoth | i just told you. `` or $() will run the command and expand to whatever that command outputted |
| 00:01.27 | emte | and then input the output into a variable |
| 00:01.31 | kergoth | A="$(echo blah)" results in 'blah' in A |
| 00:01.41 | emte | aha |
| 00:01.45 | kergoth | same for `` |
| 00:02.04 | kergoth | `` is more portable, but you cant have a `` within another ``. you can nest $() |
| 00:02.10 | emte | i wonder if it was because i was missing quotes ... |
| 00:02.19 | kergoth | $(echo "A $(echo B)") |
| 00:02.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:02.55 | pb_ | kergoth: ah cool, looks like a good start. |
| 00:03.08 | pb_ | actually, I need to do some interrupt latency measurements tomorrow |
| 00:07.26 | pb_ | kergoth: probably worth making it a bit more obvious that dhrystone-type benchmarks are almost exclusively measuring the performance of your CPU and your compiler, not your operating system. and, for that stuff, something like EEMBC is probably more relevant in the embedded space. |
| 00:07.48 | pb_ | not that eembc is free, of course, but they do publish comparative results for a fair few common systems. |
| 00:09.00 | kergoth | good point |
| 00:10.19 | emte | hmm |
| 00:10.29 | emte | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/enlightenment/e17/libs/ecore/ecore.oe |
| 00:10.35 | emte | think it will let me use that? |
| 00:10.43 | emte | then i can avoid cvs |
| 00:11.05 | emte | yeah i know i need to change it |
| 00:11.08 | kergoth | in theory |
| 00:11.27 | emte | well we will see |
| 00:11.40 | emte | guess i need to change cvs fisrt |
| 00:11.57 | emte | ... wonder if raster upgraded to bitbake yet |
| 00:15.05 | treke | yo |
| 00:15.10 | emte | oi |
| 00:15.20 | emte | go sf cvs go |
| 00:15.29 | emte | you slow beast you |
| 00:15.37 | treke | car salesmen fucking suck |
| 00:15.53 | emte | buy private |
| 00:16.15 | emte | unless you jsut want a new vehicle |
| 00:16.59 | treke | not really dead set on new |
| 00:17.25 | treke | though I would prefer to buy from a semi reputable dealer |
| 00:17.45 | treke | or at least as reputable as one of these lying mother fuckers can be |
| 00:18.37 | emte | yeah ... |
| 00:18.54 | emte | well your getting closer to the end of the moneth ... |
| 00:19.02 | emte | they will start dropping prices |
| 00:19.45 | emte | a guy i know got VW to drop 10grand off the price |
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| 00:20.05 | emte | even the salesman he was dealing with was supprised |
| 00:20.20 | emte | but they needed to make quota |
| 00:23.14 | treke | hehe |
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| 00:42.21 | emte | looks like i need to buy naturallyspeaking for my grandma |
| 00:46.07 | kergoth | heh. "talking".. how inefficient |
| 00:46.08 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:46.25 | emte | she has fairly bad arthritis |
| 00:46.37 | kergoth | ahh |
| 00:46.44 | emte | so its either speak or a $300+ keyboard |
| 00:47.19 | emte | as long as she doesnt mind talking to herself i dont think she will mond |
| 00:47.24 | emte | mind* |
| 00:47.25 | emte | :) |
| 00:47.41 | emte | man i hate it when i do stupid things ... |
| 00:48.02 | emte | i was almost done renaming the oe's when i realised i forgot all the -native ones |
| 00:48.10 | emte | lol |
| 00:48.28 | emte | hmm |
| 00:49.22 | emte | do you know if there is a reason why raster has a libxcursor oe in the e17 cvs? |
| 00:49.39 | emte | or was taht me |
| 00:49.42 | emte | that ... |
| 00:49.46 | emte | hmm i better look |
| 00:50.31 | emte | nope that was me |
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| 01:13.43 | kergoth | hey mjensen |
| 01:14.26 | mjensen | hi hows things? |
| 01:17.06 | kergoth | not bad. busy busy |
| 01:17.09 | kergoth | you? |
| 01:19.11 | emte | bleh |
| 01:19.16 | emte | there thats cvs updated ... |
| 01:19.26 | emte | now for bk |
| 01:19.43 | mjensen | fine thanks - nearly finished porting 2.6 to my Hymod (MPC8260) board |
| 01:20.09 | mjensen | some nice patches at http://www.evillabs.net/~gus/patches/ |
| 01:20.19 | mjensen | made it very easy |
| 01:20.23 | kergoth | ah cool |
| 01:20.57 | mjensen | next comes our MPC8560 board (which isnt back from loading yet) |
| 01:26.44 | emte | bbiab |
| 01:26.49 | emte | gotta pickup my gf |
| 01:37.29 | kergoth | mjensen: where do you work, out of curiosity |
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| 01:48.40 | kergoth | the amount of hacks upon hacks upon hacks they do to get around limitations in the system is just mind boggling |
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| 01:51.08 | kergoth | hey raster |
| 01:51.24 | raster | kergoth: kergie! :) |
| 01:51.26 | raster | hey man |
| 01:51.28 | raster | how goes? |
| 01:51.38 | kergoth | not bad, busy as hell |
| 01:51.39 | kergoth | you? |
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| 02:41.42 | raster | kergoth: oh sorry |
| 02:41.48 | raster | damn people evereywhere talking |
| 02:41.52 | raster | kergoth: busy as hell :( |
| 02:41.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:42.08 | raster | i am sooo looking forward to new years holidays |
| 02:42.11 | raster | away form the net |
| 02:42.14 | raster | from work |
| 02:42.16 | raster | from people |
| 02:42.18 | raster | yay! |
| 02:43.02 | raster | cool |
| 02:43.07 | raster | emte: bb's :) |
| 02:43.10 | raster | thnaks |
| 02:43.17 | raster | i didnt get time to try bb at all on the weekend |
| 02:43.27 | raster | too much stuff to do |
| 02:43.28 | raster | :( |
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| 06:34.07 | bronson | Configuring build/conf/local.conf... |
| 06:34.11 | bronson | OEFILES := "${HOME}/oe/packages/*/*.oe" |
| 06:34.13 | bronson | Is this right? |
| 06:34.17 | kergoth | no. |
| 06:34.21 | bronson | er, .bb |
| 06:34.23 | kergoth | go read GettingStarted and local.conf.sample again |
| 06:34.42 | kergoth | the current local.conf.sample doesnt mention OEFILES at all. |
| 06:35.11 | bronson | eh? |
| 06:35.21 | kergoth | what part of that was unclear? |
| 06:35.25 | bronson | I checked this out a week ago... maybe I should have updated...? |
| 06:35.26 | kergoth | go read it |
| 06:35.30 | kergoth | eh |
| 06:35.36 | kergoth | if yoiur tree is more than 2 days old, its ancient. |
| 06:35.40 | bronson | heh |
| 06:35.45 | bronson | ok, updating. |
| 06:35.55 | kergoth | thats the rule of thumb here. the pace of development is fairly rapid. |
| 06:36.54 | bronson | I can just run "bk pull" and it's like "svn up" right? |
| 06:36.58 | bronson | I'm totally new to bk. |
| 06:37.03 | kergoth | no. bk pull; bk -r co -q |
| 06:37.14 | bronson | tx |
| 06:38.27 | netsplit | Oh, that might be something to add to the GettingStarted wiki. |
| 06:38.38 | kergoth | how to update? yeah, rpobably |
| 06:38.40 | kergoth | go right ahead |
| 06:39.55 | W8TVI | hello kergoth |
| 06:41.01 | bronson | How does BBFILES := "${HOME}/oe/packages/*/*.bb" look? |
| 06:41.23 | kergoth | packages? oh, you didnt rename your local dir, just reparented and pulled? |
| 06:41.35 | kergoth | or..? |
| 06:41.48 | kergoth | packages/ is inside of openembedded/ upstream. |
| 06:41.59 | bronson | ah, right. |
| 06:42.14 | bronson | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.22 | kergoth | looks fine |
| 06:42.26 | kergoth | dont need the := |
| 06:42.28 | bronson | Cool. |
| 06:42.41 | bronson | netsplit: that would be handy to have in GettingStarted too. |
| 06:42.51 | kergoth | hm? |
| 06:42.52 | netsplit | Hehe, your turn to put that in then. |
| 06:42.54 | kergoth | its in local.conf.sample |
| 06:42.58 | bronson | deal. |
| 06:43.01 | kergoth | did you not even bother reading it? |
| 06:43.09 | bronson | Of course. |
| 06:43.17 | kergoth | # Delete the line below. Then specify which .bb files to consider for |
| 06:43.18 | bronson | You might want to see how unhelpful the comment is... |
| 06:43.18 | kergoth | # your build. Typically this will be something like BBFILES = "/path/to/oe-packages/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 06:43.20 | kergoth | BBFILES := "${@bb.fatal('Edit your conf/local.conf: BBFILES')}" |
| 06:43.29 | bronson | drat. |
| 06:43.37 | kergoth | start reading at Typically |
| 06:43.45 | bronson | you're right. |
| 06:43.56 | netsplit | You know, that actually isn't very clear to me. |
| 06:43.58 | kergoth | that shoudl really be openembedded rather than oe-packages, but its still relatively clear |
| 06:44.13 | netsplit | Though I'm the channel idiot, so maybe it's not saying much ... |
| 06:44.16 | kergoth | this is one thing that belongs here, not the wiki |
| 06:44.29 | kergoth | its too easy for the wiki to get out of sync with reality if you put it there |
| 06:44.35 | bronson | It's clear to me now, but it sure didn't make sense when I first read it. |
| 06:44.41 | kergoth | thats why i removed a lot of the content on the site |
| 06:44.42 | netsplit | Yes, if you put openembedded there, it would be much clearer. |
| 06:46.29 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2671 10openembedded/conf/local.conf.sample: Clarify the example BBFILES in local.conf.sample a bit. |
| 06:46.42 | kergoth | there, it says openembedded/packages now |
| 06:46.50 | bronson | groovy |
| 06:46.51 | netsplit | Oh, chance to try that bk pull thing we just learned ... hehe. |
| 06:46.53 | kergoth | people will still complain, because people dont like to read, but oh well, thats as good as its going to get |
| 06:48.53 | bronson | Is x86-uml a good MACHINE to use to ensure that oe is working properly? |
| 06:49.14 | kergoth | what are you using oe for? |
| 06:49.38 | bronson | I'd like to use it to build a new embedded product I've been making. |
| 06:49.52 | bronson | I've got a ton of custom tools that I could throw out if I adopt OE. |
| 06:49.53 | kergoth | doesnt really matter what machine you select, your call |
| 06:49.57 | bronson | That would be nice... |
| 06:50.03 | bronson | I'm just kicking the tires right now. |
| 06:50.31 | bronson | I'd like to boot UML if it works and is not too hard. |
| 06:50.56 | bronson | Otherwise, I'll just make a full x86 boot image (which would be MACHINE=native I suppose?) |
| 06:51.26 | kergoth | i dont expect native to work |
| 06:51.47 | bronson | Then I guess this is my question... |
| 06:51.47 | kergoth | but x86-uml would be no different than a "full x86 boot image" other than what kernel gets built and the default fstab and stuff |
| 06:51.57 | kergoth | the only differences are the machine specifics. |
| 06:52.08 | bronson | ok |
| 06:53.53 | bronson | so it looks like colinux and x86-uml are my only two choices. |
| 06:54.02 | bronson | Guess I'll try for x86-uml for now. |
| 06:54.22 | kergoth | you have a windows box to run colinux on? |
| 06:54.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:54.25 | kergoth | brb |
| 06:54.34 | treke|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.56 | bronson | Ah. |
| 06:55.03 | bronson | Looks like x86-uml is my only choice. :) |
| 06:55.39 | kergoth | hey treke |
| 06:55.39 | kergoth | ~colinux |
| 06:55.40 | ibot | well, colinux is at http://www.colinux.org |
| 06:55.57 | kergoth | mmmmm, scotch. |
| 06:56.08 | emte | mmm |
| 06:56.10 | emte | share |
| 06:57.50 | emte | wheres the guy almost as offbalance as me ... |
| 06:57.58 | emte | aha there he is |
| 06:58.08 | emte | heya raster, you update to bitbake yet? |
| 06:58.25 | emte | i renamed the oe's and pushed them to cvs |
| 06:58.51 | kergoth | 20:33 < raster> cool |
| 06:58.51 | kergoth | 20:33 < raster> emte: bb's :) |
| 06:58.51 | kergoth | 20:33 < raster> thnaks |
| 06:58.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:58.56 | emte | about to modify the bk versions to pull the real meta from cvs |
| 06:59.02 | emte | oo |
| 06:59.03 | emte | :) |
| 06:59.05 | kergoth | let me know how that goes |
| 06:59.18 | emte | yeah i'll let you know in a few ... |
| 06:59.33 | emte | btw what is the safe way to remove a metafile? |
| 06:59.50 | emte | since some of eth e ones dont work and dont exist in cvs |
| 07:00.19 | emte | i might as well clean everything up |
| 07:00.27 | kergoth | bk rm blah.bb |
| 07:00.28 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:00.32 | emte | k |
| 07:00.55 | emte | then commit and push i am guessing |
| 07:01.09 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:01.43 | raster | emte: nah - i havent had time :( |
| 07:02.02 | emte | raster: its actually pretty quick and easy |
| 07:02.31 | emte | we will see how long this inherit thing takes, but i am writting an auto=installer |
| 07:03.18 | emte | to grab bitbake, the oe meta, and configure the enviroment ... under a newuser ofcourse since that is my method |
| 07:03.20 | raster | i havent even had that much time :) |
| 07:03.37 | raster | end of year here |
| 07:03.43 | raster | projecty things to finish up |
| 07:03.46 | emte | really? |
| 07:03.51 | emte | hmm |
| 07:03.56 | raster | peopole wanting to have end of year/xmas get togethers |
| 07:04.07 | raster | and other things related to all this |
| 07:04.09 | raster | eating up my time |
| 07:04.21 | emte | yearend for most companies is usually feb/march or sept/oct |
| 07:04.55 | emte | but yeah i hear ya |
| 07:05.46 | emte | well when ever you have a few min to spare and are bored i could use a few examples of basic e stuff or maybe a small tutorial |
| 07:06.06 | raster | how to write code? |
| 07:06.21 | emte | just how to put things together |
| 07:07.02 | kergoth | hehe. raster's guide to writing code. step one, pick a library for container classes like glib or qt. step two, burn it |
| 07:07.09 | emte | lol |
| 07:07.26 | emte | i guess i'd liek more on the server-client aspect |
| 07:07.26 | raster | kergoth: HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| 07:07.28 | raster | :) |
| 07:07.47 | emte | how to pass the data back and forth |
| 07:07.59 | raster | emte: i thought we hadexamples |
| 07:08.02 | raster | for exmaple |
| 07:08.04 | raster | ecore/examples |
| 07:08.09 | emte | how many are still valid? |
| 07:08.12 | raster | con_client and cone_server examples |
| 07:08.24 | raster | they should all be |
| 07:08.27 | emte | hmm |
| 07:08.32 | emte | k i'll read em |
| 07:09.42 | emte | i wish today was the 21st |
| 07:10.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:10.11 | emte | then i'd have atleast an familiar imag i could use so that cf worked and i could read docs off my ipaq |
| 07:10.13 | kergoth | fuck, i still havent bought xmas presents |
| 07:10.16 | kergoth | i'm so gonna be late |
| 07:10.26 | emte | we did a bunch of that tonoght |
| 07:10.39 | kergoth | my family is all in MN, so everything has to be mailed |
| 07:10.42 | emte | kergoth: buy em all amazon certificats :P |
| 07:10.48 | kergoth | doubt itll get there on time, unless i order shit and get it sent directly there |
| 07:10.49 | kergoth | hehe, yeah |
| 07:11.08 | emte | i think they will even wrap it and send a card |
| 07:11.38 | emte | send everyone 50 bones and your done |
| 07:11.41 | emte | :) |
| 07:11.53 | raster | i hate xmas presents |
| 07:11.59 | raster | everyone buys everyone else sueless garbage |
| 07:12.02 | kergoth | yep |
| 07:12.09 | kergoth | end up returning half of it anyway |
| 07:12.15 | kergoth | or throwing it in a closet and never touching it again |
| 07:12.19 | emte | i try for quirky and amusing :P |
| 07:12.19 | raster | yup |
| 07:12.24 | emte | or socks |
| 07:12.28 | raster | sall it does it line the pockets of companies |
| 07:12.34 | kergoth | i wish my mom would just get me a damn gift certificate |
| 07:12.39 | kergoth | but no, i have to "open" something |
| 07:12.41 | emte | i ask for sock |
| 07:12.43 | raster | emte: its still useless junk :) |
| 07:12.43 | kergoth | even though i'm not int he same fucking state |
| 07:12.54 | emte | i can always use more socks |
| 07:13.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:13.14 | raster | kergoth: continents. it works. move to another continent. you reduce xmas to the xmas phone call. it's great! :) |
| 07:13.27 | emte | lol |
| 07:13.40 | raster | and they dont send me somthiung either |
| 07:13.42 | raster | its fantastic |
| 07:13.51 | kergoth | hah, nice |
| 07:13.57 | raster | me and my parents resigned from the whoel rpesent malarki years ago |
| 07:14.01 | raster | we called a truce |
| 07:14.06 | emte | lol |
| 07:14.15 | raster | now if only everyone around me would join in the xmas truce... |
| 07:14.26 | kergoth | i should do that. my parents are too damn borke to be buying me shit anyway |
| 07:14.27 | raster | lets og out for dinenr and drinks |
| 07:14.29 | raster | and a good time |
| 07:14.37 | kergoth | broke, evne |
| 07:14.38 | emte | i thought i'd be different in jp from what i've heard |
| 07:14.39 | raster | not buy eachother useless junk that u dont want anyway |
| 07:14.40 | kergoth | even, even |
| 07:14.53 | emte | more about wrapping then present |
| 07:15.07 | kergoth | i never wrap my presents anymore at least, i gave up on that shit |
| 07:15.11 | kergoth | you get it in a fucking bag |
| 07:15.14 | kergoth | and thatd better be good enough |
| 07:15.22 | emte | you sound like my gf's father |
| 07:15.24 | raster | wrappign just screws the environment by having to cut down mroe trees |
| 07:15.31 | raster | i hate havign to clean up al lthe packaging too |
| 07:15.35 | kergoth | its a pointless waste |
| 07:15.40 | raster | its annoying enough wne its ntop wrapped already |
| 07:15.47 | emte | what do you call newspapers? |
| 07:15.48 | kergoth | for what, the experience of "unwrapping" it? |
| 07:15.50 | kergoth | sure, when you're 8 |
| 07:15.52 | kergoth | after that, fuck it |
| 07:16.05 | raster | emte: forest munchers |
| 07:16.09 | emte | lol |
| 07:16.12 | raster | :) |
| 07:16.13 | raster | yeah |
| 07:16.16 | raster | when yopur 8 |
| 07:16.17 | raster | or 10 |
| 07:16.21 | emte | that anything like a carpet muncher? |
| 07:16.21 | raster | or even stiill 12 or 14 |
| 07:16.23 | raster | its all fine |
| 07:16.25 | raster | its cool |
| 07:16.26 | kergoth | yeah |
| 07:16.26 | raster | fun |
| 07:16.30 | raster | when u get to like 15 16 |
| 07:16.36 | raster | u kind of start growing up |
| 07:16.39 | kergoth | yup, exactly |
| 07:16.42 | raster | i knwo i did |
| 07:16.48 | raster | i was thinking abotu getting my frist car |
| 07:16.58 | raster | so i was aaying "dont give me presents. give me money!" |
| 07:17.02 | kergoth | exactly |
| 07:17.05 | kergoth | they never do though |
| 07:17.06 | kergoth | bastards |
| 07:17.08 | raster | so i worked |
| 07:17.09 | raster | and saved |
| 07:17.10 | emte | i was more into sports and trying to have sex |
| 07:17.19 | raster | and squirreled away all my presents (in cash now) |
| 07:17.25 | raster | and ventualyl had enough to buy myself a car |
| 07:17.30 | raster | u cant wrap that |
| 07:17.37 | raster | and man did that make me happy |
| 07:17.39 | emte | they do ... |
| 07:17.43 | raster | and ti was such a practical useful present |
| 07:17.44 | raster | :) |
| 07:17.58 | kergoth | when you're that age, the car is like a physical manifestation of freedom man |
| 07:18.08 | emte | remind me what is the first e packge we build imlib2? |
| 07:18.09 | kergoth | dont have to rely on everyone else |
| 07:19.01 | emte | hmm |
| 07:19.20 | emte | do i put my grubby sig as author on these or raster? |
| 07:19.31 | emte | maintainer i mean |
| 07:20.00 | bronson | DEPENDS_append_machine = " libmad" |
| 07:20.25 | bronson | Doens't DEPENDS_machine += "libmad" work? |
| 07:20.40 | bronson | http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch02.html |
| 07:20.42 | emte | they mean different things and the space is required i belive |
| 07:20.51 | bronson | The += will add the space. |
| 07:21.08 | bronson | They mean different things? |
| 07:21.11 | bronson | Guess I'm confused then. |
| 07:21.31 | raster | kergoth: hell yeah. i lived int he 'burbs - there were like 4 busses a day that came nearish to my house to go somewhere... a car was just about the only sane way to get out. i refuse tolive in theburbs now.. cities for me all around. |
| 07:21.52 | kergoth | same |
| 07:22.08 | bronson | Excellent. |
| 07:22.11 | *** part/#oe offroadgeek (~offroadge@dsl027-191-243.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 07:22.16 | raster | emte: start with eet, edb, then imlib2, then embryo, evas, ecore, edje, e17 |
| 07:22.23 | bronson | Then is "_append_" just a historical anachronism? |
| 07:22.27 | raster | emte: if you want to actually MAINTAIN the files - yup - put it there |
| 07:22.30 | emte | damnit i started with imlib2 |
| 07:22.42 | kergoth | bronson: _append and _prepend existed beforer += and =+ |
| 07:22.49 | bronson | That's what I figured. |
| 07:22.54 | kergoth | bronson: they have slightly differing behaviors for one. append and prepend are delayed operations |
| 07:22.55 | emte | raster: there is no maint ... its pulling then meta out of your cvs |
| 07:23.00 | kergoth | bronson: they ddont occur immediately, but at the end of the parse |
| 07:23.01 | bronson | raster: amen about the burbs. |
| 07:23.06 | emte | well its going to |
| 07:23.08 | kergoth | bronson: at hte same time anonymous functions execute |
| 07:23.21 | kergoth | bronson: a few bits of code actually rely on that. we need to catch and eliminate them |
| 07:23.28 | bronson | scary. |
| 07:23.35 | bronson | OK, I'll try to get my head around that. |
| 07:23.49 | kergoth | so we want to move to += and =+. that said, there's no syntax for conditional append and prepend with += and =+ |
| 07:23.55 | kergoth | we need to create said syntax |
| 07:23.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:23.57 | raster | bronson: indeed. now i live in tokyo.. 30 million in greater tokyo.. city as far as u see. i like this. :) |
| 07:24.59 | bronson | I've been considering moving to either San Francisco or southwest France / north Spain somewhere... |
| 07:25.05 | bronson | I get to make that decision in March. |
| 07:25.11 | raster | why south west france |
| 07:25.16 | raster | not just the sotuh/south east |
| 07:25.22 | bronson | Surfing. :) |
| 07:25.29 | raster | near toulouse? nhear the riviera and monaco? |
| 07:25.36 | raster | on the atlantic? |
| 07:25.36 | bronson | Not many waves on the Med... |
| 07:25.39 | bronson | Yep. |
| 07:25.42 | raster | aaah gotcha |
| 07:25.47 | raster | where u live now? |
| 07:25.51 | bronson | Santa Cruz. |
| 07:25.56 | raster | aaah |
| 07:26.00 | raster | well sf IS closer |
| 07:26.03 | raster | i higly recommend it |
| 07:26.11 | raster | i lived in downtown sf for 6 months |
| 07:26.21 | raster | (grant ave - chinatown) |
| 07:26.23 | raster | beware |
| 07:26.27 | emte | ist the sky brown? |
| 07:26.27 | raster | chinatown is noisy on weekends |
| 07:26.30 | netsplit | Has anyone here a 64-bit machine with psyco? |
| 07:26.35 | raster | dotn expect peaceful sleepins |
| 07:26.36 | raster | :) |
| 07:26.53 | bronson | Very true. |
| 07:26.57 | emte | has psycho been written to use 64bit opt? |
| 07:27.11 | netsplit | Well my problem is that it doesn't compile. |
| 07:27.17 | netsplit | c/codegen.h:19:3: #error "sorry -- I guess it won't work like that on 64-bits machines" |
| 07:27.27 | emte | did you ask in #python or #paython2 |
| 07:27.39 | bronson | Mostly in the Mission though. |
| 07:28.04 | netsplit | Why should I ask in #python? |
| 07:28.12 | emte | hmm |
| 07:28.29 | emte | because psycho is a python optimiser |
| 07:28.41 | netsplit | OK, I'll try. |
| 07:28.52 | emte | kergoth: what is theis FILESDIR thing? |
| 07:29.24 | emte | or has somoen been messing with the e metafiles ... |
| 07:29.30 | emte | FILESDIR = "${@os.path.dirname(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d,1))}/eet" |
| 07:29.35 | kergoth | its the old way oe located patches and things |
| 07:29.38 | kergoth | file:// searches FILESPATH |
| 07:29.42 | kergoth | it used to look in FILESDIR |
| 07:29.46 | kergoth | FILESDIR is the old way |
| 07:29.53 | kergoth | less flexible |
| 07:29.53 | emte | okay |
| 07:30.22 | bronson | raster: A good friend of mine lived in SF for a few years then moved to Tokyo. http://www.unknowngenius.com/blog/ FWIW. |
| 07:31.31 | netsplit | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.31 | netsplit | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.31 | netsplit | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.45 | netsplit | It just sees that the size of long is eight, and quits. |
| 07:32.07 | emte | yeah |
| 07:32.18 | kergoth | hah |
| 07:33.08 | emte | 64-bit machines were never designed to handle 8-32 bit stuff its only the newer hybrids that do |
| 07:33.27 | netsplit | You think I should remove that line and try? Hehe. |
| 07:33.43 | emte | was quite a while if i remember that it took MS to get NT to 64 for the alpha |
| 07:34.06 | netsplit | Last I checked, Windows XP for AMD64 is a free download hehe. |
| 07:34.23 | netsplit | I had it for a few days, but there were some apps I couldn't run, so removed it. |
| 07:34.26 | emte | part of thier agreement no doubt |
| 07:35.08 | emte | MS and AMD had an agreement regarding AMD's 64bit chip |
| 07:35.29 | emte | i belive AMD backed out after MS kept pushing back the release date |
| 07:35.49 | netsplit | So I commented that out, and uh oh, next #error. |
| 07:35.50 | netsplit | c/Objects/pabstract.c:716:3: #error "omitted code from Python 2.3 here" |
| 07:35.56 | emte | lol |
| 07:36.14 | netsplit | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.14 | netsplit | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.17 | netsplit | Oh, not again. |
| 07:36.17 | emte | why not just redfine it ? |
| 07:37.41 | netsplit | Oh I know. |
| 07:37.52 | netsplit | Could I give gcc a different target architecture? |
| 07:37.56 | emte | hmm |
| 07:38.01 | netsplit | My machine should be able to run some 32-bit apps. |
| 07:38.03 | emte | kergoth: i guess it didnt liek that |
| 07:38.04 | emte | NOTE: package eet-native-1.0-r0: task do_fetch started |
| 07:38.04 | emte | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 07:38.04 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.35 | netsplit | It might mean I'd have to get a 32-bit Python from somewhere too ... |
| 07:38.35 | emte | inherit native http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/enlightenment/e17/libs/eet/eet-native.bb |
| 07:38.53 | emte | that look like what its supposed to be? |
| 07:39.19 | netsplit | What was the error message? |
| 07:39.22 | emte | maybe the astri mess it up |
| 07:39.47 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.47 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.47 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.47 | emte | SyntaxError: invalid syntax |
| 07:39.49 | netsplit | When Python throws exceptions, it prints out the stack trace plus the eerror message? |
| 07:39.56 | netsplit | Ah OK. |
| 07:40.19 | netsplit | Maybe function names are not allowed to have colons. |
| 07:41.30 | netsplit | identifier ::= (letter|"_") (letter | digit | "_")* |
| 07:41.36 | netsplit | Only letters, digits, and underscores. |
| 07:45.18 | netsplit | Well, I'm fairly convinced that bitbake gpe-image will never finish on my computer. |
| 07:45.48 | netsplit | My CPU usage is close to 0, while memory is full, and using lots of swap. |
| 07:46.17 | kergoth | emte: - isnt a valid character in python functions. 'def' defines the function in python's namespace. |
| 07:46.43 | netsplit | Oh, I did mean hyphen, not colon. |
| 07:47.16 | emte | ? |
| 07:47.27 | emte | ah frick |
| 07:47.33 | emte | i forgot about that ... |
| 07:48.04 | emte | cant you teach bitbake about it? |
| 07:52.55 | netsplit | Make that I'm fairly convinced I won't be able to run bitbake period. |
| 07:53.08 | netsplit | I can't seem to get past the "NOTE: Handling BitBake files:" stage :( |
| 07:53.23 | netsplit | It slows then slows then gets sort of stuck at 7x % |
| 07:53.38 | netsplit | Making my computer unusable at the same time with the furious swapping. |
| 07:53.56 | emte | netsplit: you dont NEED psycho ... |
| 07:54.05 | emte | it just helps |
| 07:54.08 | netsplit | Yes, I'm running without psyco. |
| 07:54.17 | emte | hmm |
| 07:55.32 | netsplit | OK, I'll try it in a 32-bit Debian chroot. |
| 07:55.36 | netsplit | (Tomorrow). |