| 00:00.29 | mithro | two hours till my last exam :/ and :) |
| 00:01.38 | Pendalar | more like -_- before, =-[___] during, and =-s after.. much after =-} (drinking) |
| 00:02.21 | mithro | Pendalar: :) |
| 00:02.29 | Pendalar | exams should be outlawed |
| 00:02.43 | mithro | strangley enough i havn't found an acholholic drink which i like yet |
| 00:02.54 | CosmicPenguin | Thats funny - I haven't found one I dislike yet |
| 00:02.55 | Pendalar | that's not strange to me, neither have I |
| 00:03.07 | Pendalar | I detest the smell of alchohol itself |
| 00:03.16 | Pendalar | beer smells and probably tastes like piss |
| 00:03.35 | Pendalar | so unless I go to like Red Lobster and get something so fruity I can't tell it has alchohol, I don't like it |
| 00:03.54 | Pendalar | and at that I'm not all that impressed.. I can go to sonic and get nearly the same thing |
| 00:04.27 | CosmicPenguin | Oddly, you equate Red Lobster with drinking |
| 00:06.19 | treke | indeed |
| 00:06.58 | emte | girl-drink-drunk? |
| 00:07.29 | Pendalar | why not? red lobster's food isn't that great |
| 00:07.36 | Pendalar | Captain D's fish tastes much better to me |
| 00:07.41 | Pendalar | so that leaves.. drinks |
| 00:07.41 | mithro | one place my sister goes to gives girls free breezers untill 10pm |
| 00:08.04 | emte | breezers = sleazers ? |
| 00:08.11 | Pendalar | in my area it's one of the maybe 3 places to go to get alchoholic bevs that isn't taken over by hostile hispanic gangs and what not |
| 00:08.13 | emte | urg shouldnta typed that |
| 00:08.32 | Pendalar | other choices would be like logan's or applebees |
| 00:08.44 | kergoth | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-utils/2002-10/msg00176.html .. hmm |
| 00:08.46 | mithro | it sounds like a way to get alot of drunk girls into the bar to me... |
| 00:08.57 | treke | mithro: I think that's the idea |
| 00:10.36 | emte | girls dont spend money, its the guys buying drinks for girls that does |
| 00:10.58 | emte | so if you prim the bar with girls that draws guys etc |
| 00:11.01 | emte | prime* |
| 00:11.02 | CosmicPenguin | exactly |
| 00:11.10 | CosmicPenguin | this is the whole idea behind ladies night |
| 00:12.30 | mithro | bah, my exam is on electromagnetics |
| 00:12.52 | emte | doesnt sound hard ... |
| 00:13.15 | mithro | i havn't really study enough for it :/ |
| 00:13.17 | emte | lots of nice big equations tho |
| 00:25.07 | kergoth | But that only does module loading. The "full" replacement of today's |
| 00:25.08 | kergoth | /sbin/hotplug functionality needs this hotplug multiplexer, and a |
| 00:25.08 | kergoth | diethotplug replacement (which can get much smaller than the current |
| 00:25.08 | kergoth | diethotplug due to the way modprobe works in 2.6.) |
| 00:25.10 | kergoth | thatd be neat. |
| 00:25.16 | kergoth | (a new diethotplug, that is) |
| 00:26.12 | Pendalar | heh.. I read "diehotplug" |
| 00:26.23 | Pendalar | which is probably how a lot of people feel |
| 00:28.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:28.36 | kergoth | hotplug is wonderful |
| 00:28.42 | kergoth | it makes all sorts of nifty things possible |
| 00:28.55 | Pendalar | it's a good theory ;-) |
| 00:29.21 | kergoth | its good in fact. those who wish it would die do so out of ignorance. |
| 00:31.01 | pb_ | this consistency check is taking forever |
| 00:31.40 | mithro | pb_: you use mythtv? |
| 00:31.44 | pb_ | yes |
| 00:32.06 | Pendalar | kergoth: that's true of anything linux related |
| 00:32.40 | mithro | pb_: i just noticed your name when reading the mythtv-users list :) |
| 00:32.55 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:33.00 | mithro | what type of setup do you have? |
| 00:33.28 | pb_ | epia-based frontend, separate backend with two dvb cards |
| 00:34.14 | mithro | i've got a single combined frontend/backend with a single dvb card |
| 00:34.41 | mithro | pb_: what type of disk space you got? |
| 00:34.52 | pb_ | mithro: only 200GB at the moment |
| 00:35.05 | pb_ | I need to fit another drive. |
| 00:35.33 | mithro | i've got 200gb, i've found that in australia thats easily enough |
| 00:35.40 | mithro | nothing ever intresting is on |
| 00:35.53 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:36.11 | pb_ | well, 200G probably would be ok for me as well. I record way more shows than I ever watch. |
| 00:36.38 | mithro | about 50% of my recordings are the simpsons |
| 00:36.59 | joshua__ | to avoid telling you that you've run out of disk space, TiVos will silently delete old shows unless you explicitly say not to |
| 00:37.02 | Pendalar | the only simpsons episode worth keeping is that one with weird al =-p |
| 00:37.07 | kergoth | joshua__: ack |
| 00:37.31 | joshua__ | kergoth: hm? not a problem, really.... |
| 00:37.47 | pb_ | joshua__: you can set mythtv to do that as well |
| 00:37.52 | mithro | i get about a weeks worth of uncompressed stuff with 200gb |
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| 00:39.11 | mithro | i need to rebuild the mythtv database because strange things are happening with it atm |
| 00:39.18 | kergoth | hmm, my package repo is now hosed |
| 00:39.20 | Cwiiis | Is bk down at the moment? |
| 00:39.23 | kergoth | i need to improve my bk voodoo |
| 00:39.50 | Cwiiis | oh nevermind, working now... |
| 00:39.56 | joshua__ | hm, look. the new version of gettext that I just merged apaprently broke binary compat. |
| 00:39.56 | Pendalar | darker yet is the art of digital voodoo |
| 00:42.56 | CIA-4 | 03pb 07 * r1.2601 10packages-devel/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:42.56 | CIA-4 | update gpe-appmgr to 2.4 |
| 00:42.56 | CIA-4 | update libgpelaunch to 0.11 |
| 00:43.23 | pb_ | at last |
| 00:45.39 | mithro | i love this quote |
| 00:45.41 | mithro | More education is necessary. One form of education is lawsuits. |
| 00:45.42 | mithro | - Jonathan Lamy (Spokesperson, RIAA) |
| 00:45.54 | treke | buahaha |
| 00:45.57 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:47.17 | kergoth | "They say we're in an obesity EPIDEMIC! Like its Polio. LIke we're gonna be telling our grandkids about it. The great obesity epidemic of 2004. 'How did you make it grandpa?' 'Oh it was HORRIBLE! There was cheesecake and pork chops everywhere!'" |
| 00:49.38 | mithro | Anytime you skip a commercial ... you're actually stealing the programming. |
| 00:49.38 | mithro | - Jamie Kellner (then CEO, Turner Broadcasting) |
| 00:50.09 | treke | "Too fucking bad" |
| 00:50.11 | treke | - Greg Gilbert |
| 00:50.35 | mithro | I say to you that the VCR is to the ... American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone. |
| 00:50.36 | mithro | - Jack Valenti (CEO, MPAA) |
| 00:50.53 | Pendalar | my ext2 formatted SD keeps getting mounted RO.. getting annoying |
| 00:51.07 | kergoth | Pendalar: fsck it. |
| 00:51.10 | Pendalar | I get a General IO error, then next mount it's RO |
| 00:51.18 | Pendalar | fsck gets it RO as well |
| 00:51.23 | kergoth | huh? |
| 00:51.27 | Pendalar | so fsck can't fix... odd as hell |
| 00:51.30 | treke | mithro: if broadcasters want me to watch more commercials, they should make more entertaining ones. |
| 00:51.33 | Pendalar | but it can show me the problems |
| 00:51.39 | mithro | treke: i agree |
| 00:51.39 | kergoth | fsck operates on a device in /dev/, not the mount |
| 00:51.46 | Pendalar | right |
| 00:51.47 | treke | mithro: There is a reason why I usually sit through ibm commercials :) |
| 00:52.01 | kergoth | Pendalar: most sd cards have that little read only switch. perhaps there's something up with yours |
| 00:52.03 | Pendalar | but it can not attach to it with rw access |
| 00:52.17 | Pendalar | heh maybe a short inside the card.. that would be my luck |
| 00:52.32 | Pendalar | but.. I can throw it in my card reader, format it to FAT16 and generally get no problems |
| 00:52.36 | Pendalar | even the general io errors |
| 00:52.56 | Pendalar | I've heard some of lexar's cards are "Rigged" like that but can't dig up much on google |
| 00:53.02 | mithro | the recent hp ones we have gotten here have been quite entertaining |
| 00:59.11 | mithro | swappiness? |
| 00:59.35 | joshua__ | yup |
| 00:59.40 | joshua__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.42 | mithro | on the previous topic of alcohol http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996668 |
| 01:02.59 | kergoth | okay, confirmed that upstream binutils from cvs exhibits the same bug when building klibc |
| 01:03.05 | kergoth | guess i'll go poke at the bug tracking system |
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| 01:08.10 | CIA-4 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2596.1.1 10packages-devel/binutils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Unbork the binutils build from cvs. |
| 01:34.58 | kergoth | aw, toshiba cant give me info on the asic thats in the sl6k because its a custom product |
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| 01:35.19 | Pendalar | steal it |
| 01:35.40 | kergoth | not that i'm surprised, but still |
| 01:36.32 | emte | probably want you to buy the SDK |
| 01:36.40 | Cwiiis | What's the difference between the C760 and the C860, other than the battery? |
| 01:36.45 | emte | for about 10G |
| 01:38.55 | Pendalar | software I believe |
| 01:39.14 | Pendalar | and wasn't there a casing color alteration on one side? can't recall now |
| 01:40.17 | Cwiiis | ah, ok |
| 01:40.39 | Cwiiis | Considering a Zaurus upgrade... |
| 01:46.14 | mithro | the casing color is totally different |
| 01:46.24 | mithro | the c860 is colored like the c700 |
| 01:46.38 | Pendalar | I don't recall the thing about the battery though |
| 01:46.52 | mithro | it looks soooo much better then the c7[56]0 |
| 01:47.13 | Pendalar | I'd love one =-( |
| 01:47.25 | mithro | i can't find my c700 :/ |
| 01:50.05 | Cwiiis | Pendalar - Says on zaurus.spy.org that the 760 has a 1700mAh battery and the 860 has a 950 or something like that |
| 01:52.19 | mithro | not ture |
| 01:52.33 | mithro | the 860 goes with the same battery as the 760 |
| 01:53.56 | Pendalar | yep |
| 01:54.16 | Pendalar | that's what I was thinking as well but I checked dynamism just in case.. both are "8 hour" batteries |
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| 01:56.32 | mithro | i have a c860 |
| 01:56.41 | mithro | and it definatley came with a 1700mAh |
| 01:56.57 | Pendalar | I'd like the c3000 but I bet the battery life isn't great |
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| 02:03.45 | Pendalar | I don't guess anyone here has a c3k yet.. ? |
| 02:05.42 | mithro | usb host support in the c3k |
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| 02:08.03 | Cwiiis | Anyone fancy selling me a c760 or c860, or trading it for an sl5500 + cash? :p |
| 02:11.31 | Zero_Chaos | Can anyone tell me why bluez-utils is not provided by bluez-utils? |
| 02:13.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 02:15.47 | Zero_Chaos | I'm trying for the first time to build task-bootstrap twin-image opie-image and others, but they all stop and say that nothing provides bluez-utils (which I compiled with oemake bluez-utils-dbus) |
| 02:16.31 | treke|laptop | Zero_Chaos: That isn't what you asked the first time |
| 02:16.38 | treke|laptop | be specific about your questions. |
| 02:16.56 | Zero_Chaos | sorry, I'm new to this.... |
| 02:17.21 | Zero_Chaos | can you help though? |
| 02:17.32 | emte | bluez-utils-dbus wouldnt be bluz-utils |
| 02:17.48 | emte | task-bootstrap should build bluez bu itself |
| 02:17.54 | emte | by* |
| 02:17.57 | treke|laptop | exactly |
| 02:18.04 | Zero_Chaos | okay, well, oemake bluez-utils says nothing provides bluez-utils |
| 02:18.13 | treke|laptop | because nothing does |
| 02:18.44 | Zero_Chaos | okay, but my build stops there..... so, what do I do? |
| 02:18.57 | emte | fix your packages tree or your enviroment |
| 02:19.37 | Zero_Chaos | okay, I'm like 99% sure my enviroment is okay, so, how do I fix the packages tree? |
| 02:19.40 | emte | i hate to tell you but 1 person out of a few hundred using oe dont have the bluez problem ... so it means your setup is faulty |
| 02:20.47 | Zero_Chaos | now now now, I might have rm -rf'ed something that I shouldn't, but I still hold that my enviroment isn't messed up. |
| 02:21.07 | Zero_Chaos | so, can you suggest where I should start to trouble shoot this? |
| 02:21.25 | emte | recheck your enviroment setup and package tree |
| 02:21.26 | kergoth | Zero_Chaos: none of the oe meta packages depend on bluez-utils directly. |
| 02:21.27 | kergoth | not one |
| 02:21.39 | kergoth | either your packages tree is out of date, or your environment is screwy, as emte says |
| 02:22.10 | emte | well all know emte's enviorment is screwy |
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| 02:22.38 | Zero_Chaos | okay, well I do that bk pull thing quite a bit, and so I'm not out of date. Where do I look to find what is requiring bluez-utils? (and fix it) |
| 02:22.50 | kergoth | uh, with grep? |
| 02:22.54 | kergoth | learn to use your linux box |
| 02:23.03 | kergoth | grep bluez packages/meta/*.oe |
| 02:23.49 | emte | task-bootstrap depends on bluez if you want a hint |
| 02:24.01 | kergoth | actually no, it doesnt. |
| 02:24.08 | emte | not any more? |
| 02:24.09 | kergoth | the gpe and opie bits depend on the appropriate version themselves |
| 02:24.14 | kergoth | opie depends on nodbus, gpe on dbus |
| 02:24.21 | emte | aha |
| 02:24.35 | emte | if only glib would build for me ... |
| 02:24.41 | Zero_Chaos | I see, thanks. |
| 02:24.52 | emte | then again it pushes me to work on e more i suppose |
| 02:24.53 | treke|laptop | I'll go as far as to say nothing depends on bluez-util |
| 02:24.54 | treke|laptop | at all |
| 02:25.05 | mikelp | OK, is opie-image actually working for everyone else ? |
| 02:25.22 | kergoth | Zero_Chaos: your tree is clearly out of date. is there a RESYNC dir in your repository after doing a bk pull in packages? |
| 02:25.24 | mikelp | the image build part that is |
| 02:25.56 | Zero_Chaos | which one is repository? |
| 02:26.03 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:26.08 | kergoth | cd packages; bk pull |
| 02:26.19 | kergoth | if you dont know what 'repository' means, i cant help you |
| 02:26.21 | kergoth | go look it up |
| 02:28.10 | Zero_Chaos | "bk pull" says "Nothing to pull" |
| 02:32.07 | kergoth | well, once again, the packages you mentioned earlier dont depend on bluez-utils |
| 02:32.11 | kergoth | dont know what to tell you. |
| 02:32.16 | kergoth | works fine for everyone else |
| 02:32.47 | Zero_Chaos | fair enough |
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| 02:33.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:38.19 | billytwowilly | kergoth is alive! |
| 02:42.53 | kergoth | billytwowilly: heh, welcome back |
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| 02:45.06 | billytwowilly | kergoth, My ipaq 3630 died. I'm looking into acquiring another though. I'd love to see the port to the toshiba e750/805 working though. Those are sweet |
| 02:45.24 | billytwowilly | kergoth, are you still the head honcho? |
| 02:45.27 | kergoth | ian molton is the toshiba pda guy |
| 02:45.30 | kergoth | he does the kernel work for them |
| 02:45.38 | kergoth | ask 'Spyro' in #handhelds.org what the status is |
| 02:46.05 | billytwowilly | he has a website. 47 % done for 805. 60ish for the 740/750. |
| 02:46.13 | kergoth | an oe built distro will work on it fine, once a usable kernel is there. |
| 02:46.22 | kergoth | takes very very little time to add new devices |
| 02:46.51 | billytwowilly | Yah, I remember all the grand ideas you were mentioning back then;) It looks like most/all of them have come to fruition. That's awesome. |
| 02:47.32 | kergoth | for the most part. familiar 0.8 using oe was a nice thing, and more and more people are adopting it for their devices. |
| 02:47.58 | billytwowilly | 0.8 is out? I was just on their handhelds.org website and it didn't say anything.. hmm. |
| 02:48.06 | kergoth | not out, you can check out prereleases |
| 02:48.10 | kergoth | its oe built |
| 02:48.13 | kergoth | see the hh.o wiki |
| 02:48.25 | billytwowilly | It's a grand idea. Unify work so you only put work into stuff that is specific to the device you want supported. |
| 02:48.43 | kergoth | yep, thats the idea. sharing as much work as is possible |
| 02:49.02 | billytwowilly | If dell would stop being bitches and release documentation I could buy a handheld new and not feel ripped off. |
| 02:49.17 | billytwowilly | the axims look sweet and are cheap. |
| 02:49.42 | kergoth | billytwowilly: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarDistribution?action=highlight&value=0.8 |
| 02:49.52 | kergoth | er. guess you didnt need to see the highlight of my search terms, but oh well |
| 02:49.54 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:50.35 | billytwowilly | heh;) Thanks. Anyhoo, if I'm keeping you from anything important let me know. I don't want to be a nuisance. What are you developing on now? still a zaurus? |
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| 02:50.59 | kergoth | i dont use my zauruses much. i use oe built root filesystems on my omap dev boards at work, most of the time |
| 02:51.06 | Pendalar | I'll take one |
| 02:51.09 | kergoth | though i recentely got an sl6000l, so i've been playing with that some |
| 02:51.13 | billytwowilly | oh right. You work for TI don't you? |
| 02:51.14 | kergoth | recently, even |
| 02:51.16 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:51.39 | billytwowilly | are they paying you to develop oe, or are you making calculators for them or what? |
| 02:52.10 | kergoth | neither. i used to be in education, but the project was killed, so now i work over in their sc/wireless business unit, with the omap software group |
| 02:52.13 | Pendalar | heh linux calculators.. that would be fun |
| 02:52.21 | kergoth | do bringup of linux on new OMAP processors and the like |
| 02:52.27 | raster | fun fun |
| 02:52.41 | raster | oe needs someone to comperrically "sponsor it" |
| 02:52.43 | billytwowilly | omap is the proc in the tungsten t2 right? |
| 02:52.44 | raster | imho |
| 02:52.48 | kergoth | billytwowilly: yeah |
| 02:52.56 | billytwowilly | kergoth, got oe working on the t2? |
| 02:53.08 | kergoth | heh, need to get a kernel working first |
| 02:53.23 | raster | so several oe devs can work fulltime on cleaning the build sys - improvign quality of packages etc. |
| 02:53.32 | kergoth | could probably get it going if i had one. start by using the same code they use for the ipaqs to launch linux from windows |
| 02:53.36 | kergoth | go from there |
| 02:53.57 | billytwowilly | oh well. palm is still pretty sweet. I bought it because the only windows pda I would consider buying was 200 dollars more and was a brick. |
| 02:54.07 | kergoth | raster: that would help. i expect more direct support would help improve visiblity and adoption, as well |
| 02:54.26 | kergoth | billytwowilly: i'm still thinking about getting a t2 or t3 myself. nice compact little pdas |
| 02:54.30 | billytwowilly | I'm not that interested in putting linux on it. I want to get a wifi enabled handheld and put linux on it. |
| 02:55.05 | kergoth | billytwowilly: the sl6k is pretty nice. its definately a monster though, quite large. but on the other hand, you've got wifi & usb host |
| 02:55.22 | billytwowilly | kergoth, I love the t2. I don't know about the t3. If the battery life is still good go for it. It has an intel strongarm proc though right? so the battery life might not be good. |
| 02:55.35 | kergoth | t3 has an xscale |
| 02:55.49 | raster | kergoth: yeah - though the problem is the more visibility the more users and the mroe users the mroe user management overehead becomes |
| 02:55.55 | raster | (ie questions, bugs, bug reports etc.) |
| 02:55.57 | kergoth | heh, true that |
| 02:56.08 | kergoth | better docs will help alleviate some of that though |
| 02:56.10 | billytwowilly | kergoth, well, my ideal handheld would be the size of the t3 with the same screen setup, but would have integrated wifi and have a docking cradle that supported vga out and usb |
| 02:56.13 | kergoth | if we ever get around to it.. |
| 02:57.07 | raster | billytwowilly: what about wan connectivity (gsm, gprs, 3g etc.) ? |
| 02:57.27 | kergoth | i'd be happy with BT. connect to the BT cell for wan connectivity, as well as to whatever else |
| 02:57.36 | billytwowilly | raster, I'm in north america. That stuff is a pipe dream to me, although would be useful. oh yah, uber long battery life is a must;) |
| 02:57.54 | raster | kergoth: u still need 2 things in your pocketsesss then :) |
| 02:57.55 | kergoth | wonder when we'll start seeing actual devices using wireless usb |
| 02:58.13 | kergoth | raster: well yeah. i'd rather have two compact devices than one phone thats too damned large |
| 02:58.16 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:58.21 | raster | definitel6y |
| 02:58.35 | raster | but there is no reason a phone cant have a 200-400mhz arm |
| 02:58.41 | raster | a qvga screen |
| 02:58.42 | raster | etc. |
| 02:58.49 | raster | my phone has all of it |
| 02:58.56 | raster | just that it is more like a 30mhz arm |
| 02:59.02 | raster | and no linux |
| 02:59.03 | raster | :( |
| 02:59.14 | kergoth | i saw a prototype of a phone/pda combo that was a clamshell |
| 02:59.16 | kergoth | and compact |
| 02:59.18 | kergoth | that was pretty slick |
| 02:59.24 | raster | japanese phoens are small - the clamshell/flipphone lets u squeze a big screen ont he insite |
| 02:59.29 | raster | they all do 240x320@16bpp now |
| 02:59.30 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:00.02 | kergoth | too bad the US wont see those nifty phones for a while. japan's always ahead in that dept |
| 03:01.00 | raster | yeah |
| 03:01.17 | raster | hw-wisei would ditch all my pda's for a .jp phone that ran linux (oe) |
| 03:01.26 | raster | they are the sweetest hw |
| 03:01.41 | raster | billytwowilly: kjapan is the same |
| 03:02.08 | raster | billytwowilly: my home dsl is 45mbit - basicalyl because i coudlent be arsed figuring how to chase up the ftth peole ans ask them in jaapnese if they have wired my building yet |
| 03:02.14 | raster | its about $20/month too |
| 03:02.16 | billytwowilly | raster, kjapan? I thought japan had a fairly high cost of living. |
| 03:03.10 | raster | billytwowilly: yeah. it does |
| 03:03.14 | raster | :) |
| 03:04.02 | billytwowilly | I need low cost of living and huge bandwidth;) I want to live like a God on 50k/year;) |
| 03:04.35 | kergoth | prpplague was telling me about some sys admin positions on carribean islands |
| 03:04.49 | kergoth | same sort of deal. hugely low cost of living, and they pay well because the talent pool is so small |
| 03:05.31 | billytwowilly | That would be neat for a couple years. I wouldn't want to do it forever though. |
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| 03:26.51 | cinix | i'm trying to compile scummvm with oe, but one of the packages it needs (tremor) doesn't exist in the same place as it must have at one poitn so it comes up as a 404 and fails. what files do i have to modify so it downloads the right file? |
| 03:27.14 | kergoth | oe has mirroring support. |
| 03:27.33 | kergoth | you can add a new mirror |
| 03:27.45 | kergoth | or is it 404 because upstream moved it? |
| 03:27.52 | kergoth | and you just need to point it there? |
| 03:28.37 | cinix | it's looking for http://treke.net/oe/source/Tremor_xiph.org__20040602.tar.gz, but it's not there. closest thing to that is Tremor_svn.xiph.org__20041119.tar.gz |
| 03:28.48 | kergoth | um? |
| 03:28.54 | kergoth | treke.net is the cvs tarball stash |
| 03:29.00 | kergoth | were you unable to check it out of cvs normally? |
| 03:29.26 | cinix | i didn't try to do it, if it's CVS oe usually checks it out for me. |
| 03:29.38 | kergoth | it tries the stash first. |
| 03:29.44 | kergoth | if thats a 404, it checks it out of cvs. |
| 03:30.12 | cinix | well it didn't in this case, just gave up and aborted |
| 03:30.41 | kergoth | e |
| 03:30.57 | kergoth | what the fuck |
| 03:31.05 | kergoth | ~lart treke |
| 03:31.09 | treke|laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.31 | kergoth | whats with the tremor .oe's directly referencing treke.net/oe/source? |
| 03:31.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:31.46 | treke|laptop | go ask whoever did it. |
| 03:31.55 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:31.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:31.57 | kergoth | MAINTAINER = "Greg Gilbert <greg@treke.net>" |
| 03:32.19 | treke|laptop | kergoth: And exactly how accurate are MAINTAINER vars? :p |
| 03:32.20 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:32.22 | kergoth | ~lart hrw |
| 03:32.24 | kergoth | there |
| 03:32.58 | kergoth | cinix: try this. add PREFERRED_VERSION_tremor = "svn-${CVSDATE}" |
| 03:33.02 | kergoth | cinix: to your local.conf |
| 03:33.06 | kergoth | cinix: then run oemake tremor |
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| 03:44.00 | cinix | NOTE: svn co http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/Tremor , sh: line 1: svn: command not found |
| 03:44.38 | cinix | What's svn? |
| 03:44.49 | kergoth | subversion |
| 03:45.01 | kergoth | upstream tremor uses svn instead of cvs |
| 03:54.46 | cinix | yea once I got the right programs installed it worked fine, thanks a lot |
| 03:54.49 | cinix | ttyl |
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| 04:16.51 | kergoth | guess we should make tremor from svn the default preference |
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| 04:55.47 | emte | wernt 3 bad movies enough? :P |
| 04:56.41 | chouimat | emte: and a tv series |
| 04:57.32 | billytwowilly | which movie? |
| 05:00.07 | emte | really? |
| 05:00.16 | emte | tremor(s) |
| 05:01.08 | emte | some days i am glad i dont have tv when i hear things like that |
| 05:04.05 | chouimat|Zzzzzz | night |
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| 05:25.09 | kergoth | Radiance: hey |
| 05:38.41 | treke|home | fuck a duck. |
| 05:59.40 | raster | no thanks |
| 06:00.34 | emte | how about a kangaroo? |
| 06:01.13 | raster | no |
| 06:01.19 | raster | those things have a kick from hell |
| 06:01.34 | raster | u know if one of them kicks u ic can tear a mans stomach open |
| 06:01.39 | raster | it can |
| 06:01.53 | raster | that wont be a pretty sight |
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| 06:15.56 | treke|laptop | this mail stuff was easier than I expected |
| 06:16.02 | treke|laptop | I like the new lua based imapfilter |
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| 06:32.49 | cinix | samba fails to fetch from the samba mirror, or from treke |
| 06:35.32 | emte | ? |
| 06:35.43 | emte | does oe even support samba? |
| 06:36.24 | kergoth | yep |
| 06:36.34 | kergoth | dont know if anyone's tested the packages much though |
| 06:36.39 | kergoth | probably needs a bit of tlc |
| 06:36.53 | emte | lol |
| 06:37.07 | kergoth | so much stuff gets added to oe, then never actually tested on a device |
| 06:37.10 | kergoth | its kinda funny |
| 06:37.12 | emte | needs a better propritary host |
| 06:37.45 | emte | yeah, its all the mailing list evil |
| 06:37.47 | emte | :P |
| 06:52.52 | treke|home | crap |
| 06:52.57 | treke|home | I fucked up my maildir |
| 06:53.26 | kergoth | hmm, i should get back to hacking on oe-ng |
| 06:53.35 | kergoth | finish up the metadata and metadata source (parser) components |
| 06:53.40 | kergoth | so we can move on to other stuff |
| 06:53.49 | treke|home | I'm happily archiving all of my mail newer than 30 days :( |
| 06:54.09 | kergoth | doh |
| 06:54.55 | treke|home | luckilly I tarred it all up first :p |
| 06:57.06 | kergoth | christ, my todo list is so large, and my motivation so not. |
| 06:57.13 | treke|home | go to bed |
| 06:57.18 | kergoth | i mean in general |
| 06:57.20 | kergoth | not just now |
| 06:57.21 | kergoth | hehe |