| 00:02.51 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: screw you, you've removed extra_depend='' from do_split_packages in libxine... |
| 00:03.39 | pb_ | ! |
| 00:03.47 | pb_ | ~lart cosmicpenguin |
| 00:03.56 | Pendalar | feel the love |
| 00:04.05 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:04.53 | kergoth_ | his latest email is actually relatively coherent |
| 00:05.01 | kergoth_ | i was surprised |
| 00:05.18 | treke | it's better, but his suggestion has the problem of being contrary to includes in the rest of oe :p |
| 00:05.40 | kergoth_ | right, his implementation idea was a mess |
| 00:06.01 | kergoth_ | but having a .conf be able to say "i want the previous version of myself from the search path" would be a useful thing |
| 00:06.09 | kergoth_ | remember, we've discussed that possibility for .oe files in the past |
| 00:06.15 | kergoth_ | to implement a seperate 'collie' package repo, etc |
| 00:06.16 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: heh - yeah |
| 00:06.40 | treke | yeah. I just don't know how you'd reference that since the search path isn't a fixed order or length |
| 00:06.43 | pb_ | kergoth_: kind of an "#include_next" thing. yeah, I was thinking about that this morning. |
| 00:06.59 | kergoth_ | right, exactly |
| 00:07.21 | kergoth_ | then my build/classes/base.oeclass could easily extend the common one, rather than duplicating everything |
| 00:07.28 | kergoth_ | it really isnt a bad idea, just needs careful thought about implementation |
| 00:08.08 | treke | I definitly wouldnt want to lose the ability to outright overwrite files in OEPATH |
| 00:08.18 | kergoth_ | right, itd be an additional bit of functionality |
| 00:08.29 | kergoth_ | a seperate statement in the .conf/.oe/.oeclass syntax |
| 00:08.44 | pb_ | treke: sure. as long as you didn't write "include_next bleh.oe" by mistake, you would be safe. |
| 00:09.00 | treke | yeah |
| 00:09.21 | treke | I'm guessing that would probably be hell on FILESDIR :p |
| 00:09.29 | kergoth_ | include only searches OEPATH, and generally that wont include all the bits inside a packages tree, so the .oe case needs more thought |
| 00:09.34 | jacques | argh. I don;t get it. that patch had no effect whatsoever |
| 00:09.56 | kergoth_ | "include xyz.oe from the next package collection, regardless of where it is in there" |
| 00:11.05 | kergoth_ | we need to drag rday's ass into this channel. perhaps he'd grasp additioanl things just via osmosis |
| 00:11.13 | kergoth_ | heh |
| 00:13.04 | pb_ | heh |
| 00:13.33 | kergoth_ | we really need to rework the way oe finds .oe files in its entirety for oeng |
| 00:13.38 | kergoth_ | heh |
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| 00:17.14 | bedboi | hi there |
| 00:19.33 | CIA-7 | 03zecke 07 * r1.2633.1.1 10packages-devel/ (15 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:19.34 | CIA-7 | XINE: |
| 00:19.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.34 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:20.05 | zecke | kergoth_: don't kill me libxine and libxine-opie produce a package called 'libxine1' I will hunt it tomorrow |
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| 00:20.23 | kergoth_ | zecke: of course they do. |
| 00:20.35 | zecke | kergoth_: :} |
| 00:21.01 | zecke | kergoth_: as they both contain libxine1.so |
| 00:21.04 | kergoth_ | yep |
| 00:21.38 | zecke | kergoth_: how to avoid it? bring the 'opie' into the soname? |
| 00:21.53 | kergoth_ | pb_: added virtual/libiconv and virtual/libintl. Should every package that needs them add them to their DEPENDS explicitly? |
| 00:23.08 | pb_ | kergoth_: I guess so. |
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| 00:23.56 | zecke | good nite |
| 00:24.00 | raL | how's development for the sl-6000 going? |
| 00:24.47 | kergoth_ | fine |
| 00:24.59 | kergoth_ | the wireless stuff is slightly less crappy now |
| 00:25.01 | fdv | a c++ hello world-ish program fails to compile due to missing linux/limits.h. afaics, this is part of the linux-libc-headers package, but oe doesn't make any ipk package from it. Am I doing something wrong here? |
| 00:25.39 | kergoth_ | fdv: the C library includes the headers from linux-libc-header.s |
| 00:25.47 | kergoth_ | fdv: did you forget to install libc6-dev? |
| 00:25.50 | fdv | no |
| 00:25.51 | kergoth_ | (or uclibc-dev) |
| 00:25.54 | fdv | it's there |
| 00:26.01 | fdv | (libc6.dev) |
| 00:26.05 | kergoth_ | and /usr/include/linux/limits.h isnt there? |
| 00:26.10 | fdv | no |
| 00:26.16 | kergoth_ | sounds like a bug in the c library -dev package, if thats the case. |
| 00:26.51 | fdv | I'll double check |
| 00:29.56 | kergoth_ | afaik anyway |
| 00:31.09 | pb_ | yeah |
| 00:31.17 | pb_ | it wouldn't surprise me if there was a bug here. |
| 00:32.17 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2551 10packages-devel/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Add the necessary virtual/libintl and virtual/libiconv PROVIDES to the uclibc and glibc builds. |
| 00:32.18 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2550 10packages-devel/gettext/ (gettext-native_0.14.1.oe gettext_0.14.1.oe): Stage the target gettext build, and make it PROVIDES virtual/libintl. |
| 00:32.26 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2549 10packages-devel/libiconv/ (libiconv-native_1.9.2.oe libiconv_1.9.2.oe): Unbork the libiconv builds a bit, and make the target libiconv PROVIDES virtual/libiconv. |
| 00:32.31 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2540.3.1 10packages-devel/classes/src_distribute.oeclass: Enhance source distribution oeclass to support | seperated licenses (if any is distributable, that component is), and space seperated (all must be distributable). |
| 00:32.46 | kergoth_ | heh, 1.2540.3.1 was already pushed, wonder why it got pushed again |
| 00:32.48 | fdv | 'ipkg files libc6-dev | grep -c linux' says 0 |
| 00:33.04 | kergoth_ | fdv: if thats the case, then we may simply need to package linux-libc-headers. |
| 00:33.07 | kergoth_ | not a problem |
| 00:33.21 | fdv | ok |
| 00:34.59 | fdv | kergoth_: can that be done only by removing 'PACKAGES = ""'? |
| 00:35.58 | kergoth_ | sort of, yes. that'll package it, but likely in linux-libc-headers-dev instead of linux-libc-headers |
| 00:36.17 | fdv | wouldn't that be right? |
| 00:36.18 | kergoth_ | need to add FILES_${PN} = "${includedir}" to take care of that, most likely |
| 00:36.33 | kergoth_ | not really. linux-libc-headers only consists of development files. -dev is redundant |
| 00:36.56 | fdv | ok |
| 00:37.22 | kergoth_ | ouch |
| 00:37.45 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2553 10packages-devel/glib-2.0/ (5 files): Add gettext-native, virtual/libiconv, and virtual/libintl to the glib-2.0 DEPENDS. |
| 00:38.02 | chouimat | kergoth i was unable to stop laughing ... and the guy meet her mother because he wanted to marry the chick |
| 00:38.48 | fdv | btw, I was a bit curious about that, if foo is part of FILES_${PN} and you say FILES_${PN}-dev += "foo", is it removed from the previous, then? |
| 00:39.04 | kergoth_ | no, but the packaging code *moves* files into the subpackage area |
| 00:39.15 | kergoth_ | so if ${PN} is before ${PN}-dev in PACKAGES, and it takes a file, -dev wont be able to |
| 00:39.27 | fdv | oh, I see. thanks |
| 00:39.28 | kergoth_ | in this case, we probably just want to set PACKAGES = "${PN}" |
| 00:39.36 | kergoth_ | so it only bothers with teh one package |
| 00:42.12 | fdv | oebuild says won't create empty package |
| 00:42.24 | kergoth_ | probably no do_install function |
| 00:42.35 | kergoth_ | the packaging splits based on the contents of ${D} |
| 00:42.40 | kergoth_ | if there's no do_install, it's empty. |
| 00:52.41 | fdv | is D DESTDIR? |
| 00:53.21 | kergoth_ | no |
| 00:53.30 | kergoth_ | D is D. |
| 00:53.43 | kergoth_ | DESTDIR is the variable auto* based buildsystems use to let you install into alternate locations |
| 00:53.45 | fdv | I just can't find any definition |
| 00:53.56 | kergoth_ | so the autotools default do_install puts everything in ${D} |
| 00:54.01 | kergoth_ | definition of what? |
| 00:54.03 | fdv | D |
| 00:54.38 | kergoth_ | ~/code/packages$ grep -nr '^D =' conf |
| 00:54.39 | kergoth_ | conf/oe.conf:119:D = "${WORKDIR}/image" |
| 00:54.42 | fdv | every reference I can find remains to be filled in :p |
| 00:54.52 | mjc | http://70.85.8.234/~exbyte/media/images/f776b62b0cfabb5fdae1919a7e911dc3.jpg |
| 00:56.40 | fdv | mjc: have you read fuckthesouth.com? |
| 00:56.59 | fdv | kergoth_: thanks again :) |
| 00:57.10 | kergoth_ | fdv: you want to create a do_install that does the same thing that do_stage does, but into ${D}/${includedir} instead of ${STAGING_INCDIR}. |
| 00:57.19 | kergoth_ | essentially. |
| 00:57.26 | fdv | ok |
| 00:57.37 | mjc | fdv: nope |
| 00:58.23 | fdv | that image could be used as illustration :) |
| 01:02.03 | kergoth_ | "And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, its a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice." |
| 01:02.07 | kergoth_ | haha |
| 01:02.19 | treke | haha |
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| 01:06.21 | chouimat | kergoth huh |
| 01:07.10 | kergoth_ | damnit Dell |
| 01:07.31 | kergoth_ | hurry up and send me the email about the exchange for my monitor already |
| 01:12.21 | joshua__ | kergoth_: hmm, problems? |
| 01:12.46 | kergoth_ | joshua__: my new lcd monitor has a scratch. |
| 01:12.49 | kergoth_ | on the display |
| 01:12.54 | kergoth_ | about 3/4 of a centimeter long |
| 01:12.58 | joshua__ | ah. |
| 01:13.14 | kergoth_ | such a hassle. |
| 01:13.18 | kergoth_ | i hate sending shit back |
| 01:13.42 | joshua__ | yeh |
| 01:14.04 | joshua__ | I was originally gonna ship this one back since it had a dead pixel, but I decided it was not worth my while. |
| 01:14.17 | kergoth_ | hopefully i can talk them into sending me the new one at the same time i send the old one, so i dont have to wait so long |
| 01:14.21 | kergoth_ | ah |
| 01:14.38 | joshua__ | usually they will let you do that as long as they can get a cc# out of you |
| 01:15.20 | joshua__ | at least, western digital did |
| 01:16.27 | treke | stupid phone |
| 01:16.40 | treke | the B and 6 in the mac address look identical |
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| 01:22.56 | raster | pants |
| 01:24.34 | ljp | shirts |
| 01:26.10 | raster | earmuffs |
| 01:26.31 | kergoth_ | hats |
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| 01:33.28 | ljp | flip-flops |
| 01:33.31 | raster | mittens |
| 01:33.39 | kergoth_ | heh, anyone have the xproto tarball handy? |
| 01:33.45 | kergoth_ | fd.o is down, and that isnt on the treke.net mirror yet |
| 01:33.53 | treke | I do |
| 01:34.11 | treke | kergoth, you know what you have to do though :p |
| 01:34.19 | kergoth_ | yeah yeah |
| 01:34.33 | treke | fuck. |
| 01:34.35 | joshua__ | carrots, handbags, cheese |
| 01:34.44 | treke | note to self. don't use tab completion in /stuff/source |
| 01:34.48 | kergoth_ | hehe |
| 01:34.53 | joshua__ | hhe |
| 01:35.02 | joshua__ | sometimes I do that in my home directory.. I get killed momentarily |
| 01:35.17 | joshua__ | wiseguy586@bluefire ~ $ ls |
| 01:35.17 | joshua__ | Display all 3535 possibilities? (y or n) |
| 01:35.45 | treke | Display all 41654 possibilities? (y or n) |
| 01:39.56 | treke | http://treke.net/~ggilbert/xproto-6.6.2.tar.gz |
| 01:40.22 | treke | I'll try and hit up the ds and es tonight |
| 01:40.31 | prpplague | kergoth_: hehe, you getting bit by the fd.o problem too eh? |
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| 01:44.52 | treke | kergoth, for the time being I've put all the source at http://treke.net/~ggilbert/source/, but I'd rather that not go into oe upstream |
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| 01:54.56 | kergoth | treke: nod |
| 01:54.59 | kergoth | treke: thanks |
| 02:01.52 | fdv | *gha* |
| 02:02.16 | fdv | now ld can't fond /usr/lib/crt1.o |
| 02:02.23 | fdv | s,fond,find, |
| 02:02.49 | kergoth | thats odd. |
| 02:02.53 | kergoth | i fixed the two major outstanding bugs |
| 02:02.59 | kergoth | i had it building on my device |
| 02:03.12 | kergoth | i'll fire up a build and try to repro |
| 02:03.35 | fdv | which binutils did you use, then? |
| 02:03.46 | kergoth | 2.15.91.0.2. |
| 02:03.51 | fdv | same here |
| 02:03.53 | fdv | hm |
| 02:03.58 | kergoth | gcc 3.4.2 and 2.15.91.0.2 were the ones i fixed |
| 02:04.02 | kergoth | the rest are almost certainly still busted |
| 02:04.25 | fdv | those, I use |
| 02:04.37 | fdv | theatrically spoken |
| 02:05.01 | kergoth | k, i'll see if i can reproduce the failure here |
| 02:05.27 | fdv | strace says ld is looking under /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.2/ and /usr/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.2/../../../../arm-linux/lib/arm-linux/3.4.2/ |
| 02:06.09 | fdv | when did you fix binutils? |
| 02:06.26 | kergoth | that isnt the symptom of the binutils problem. |
| 02:06.34 | fdv | ok |
| 02:06.36 | kergoth | the binutils problem prevented it from handling /usr/lib/libc.so properly |
| 02:06.41 | kergoth | it wasnt able to find libc.so.6 |
| 02:06.59 | kergoth | fdv: run gcc -dumpspecs|grep -A2 cross.*compil |
| 02:08.20 | fdv | *cross_compile: |
| 02:08.20 | fdv | 0 |
| 02:08.46 | fdv | but this is arm-linux-gcc |
| 02:08.53 | fdv | that's correct, right? |
| 02:09.04 | kergoth | gcc-symlinks is what includes the 'gcc' -> arm-linux-gcc symlink. |
| 02:09.08 | kergoth | either should behave the same. |
| 02:09.10 | fdv | ok |
| 02:09.21 | kergoth | and yes, thats the correct. previously, before the fix, cross compiling was set to 1. |
| 02:09.25 | kergoth | which broke all sorts of things. |
| 02:09.33 | fdv | I see |
| 02:09.44 | kergoth | so it sounds like this failure is new |
| 02:09.46 | kergoth | will see |
| 02:09.57 | fdv | Well, my system probably isn't all that clean |
| 02:10.12 | fdv | maybe I should try to install from scratch |
| 02:10.33 | fdv | if you have it working it could sound like that |
| 02:10.56 | kergoth | all i tested was a basic hello world, but that shouldve failed if crt1.o isnt available |
| 02:11.10 | kergoth | but my env wasnt that clean either, hacked it to hell to find those issues |
| 02:11.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:11.20 | fdv | all I'm trying to compile (atm) is a hello world example :) |
| 02:11.30 | kergoth | ah, good :) |
| 02:11.55 | fdv | that is, after I tried to compile something using wxwidgets :) |
| 02:12.26 | fdv | that output was, well, discouraging... |
| 02:13.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:13.16 | kergoth | one step at a time |
| 02:13.35 | fdv | yes, that's an important lesson |
| 02:14.39 | fdv | nevertheless, I even tried -L/usr/lib and that didn't help either |
| 02:15.06 | kergoth | it wouldnt, the startfiles arent searched in the -L paths |
| 02:15.25 | fdv | aha |
| 02:19.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.28 | kergoth | | i686-linux-errors.o(.text+0x6d): In function `warning': |
| 02:19.28 | kergoth | | : undefined reference to `__fputc_unlocked' |
| 02:19.28 | kergoth | | i686-linux-errors.o(.text+0xfc): In function `error': |
| 02:19.29 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:19.43 | kergoth | apparently i cant even build gcc |
| 02:19.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:19.50 | kergoth | this is uclibc, i dont think i've tried this |
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| 02:27.33 | fdv | well, I have to give up for today |
| 02:28.01 | fdv | thanks, really, for all the help |
| 02:28.26 | mithro | ibot: seen mickeyl |
| 02:28.27 | ibot | mickeyl <~mickey@141.2.14.10> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 9h 31m 28s ago, saying: 'didnt try for along time. try fiddling around with the magic SDL_ env variables and look if it detects the model right'. |
| 02:30.17 | kergoth | | gcc -c -DIN_GCC -DUSE_UCLIBC -I/home/kergoth/code/build-tosa/tmp/staging/arm-linux-uclibc/include -fexpensive |
| 02:30.21 | kergoth | bingo |
| 02:30.29 | kergoth | native with target headers again |
| 02:32.35 | jacques | what's libg2c ? is it related to c++ ? |
| 02:32.56 | kergoth | dunno actually |
| 02:34.53 | jacques | looks like it's not built when g++ isn't |
| 02:36.12 | gb2 | it's libf2c |
| 02:36.17 | gb2 | fortran related |
| 02:37.52 | jacques | gb2, are you saying libg2c is fortran related? |
| 02:38.00 | jacques | I didn't typo the name |
| 02:38.12 | jacques | libg2c == libf2c ? |
| 02:40.52 | mithro | if you where a Zaurus C700 where would you be hiding from me? |
| 02:44.16 | jacques | fina-frickin-ly, after hacking every file in packages/gcc and packages/uclibc: 118220 Nov 15 18:42 busybox* |
| 02:45.12 | kergoth | jacques: nice |
| 02:45.24 | kergoth | i'm amazed at that size difference |
| 02:45.31 | kergoth | perhaps we should disable it by default for now |
| 02:46.32 | jacques | kergoth you mean disable locales in uclibc for all archs ? |
| 02:46.44 | kergoth | yep |
| 02:47.04 | kergoth | at least until the uclibc locale support is finished |
| 02:47.10 | jacques | I would tend to agree - they only really work for like x86 according to comments in the buildroot makefile anyway |
| 02:47.17 | gb2 | jacques: gcc's fortran compiler is g95 (was g77) |
| 02:47.21 | kergoth | jacques: they work for arm. |
| 02:47.27 | kergoth | jacques: as long as you ahve the arm pregenerated locale data. |
| 02:47.28 | gb2 | i think fortran current version is 95, i forget though |
| 02:47.33 | kergoth | jacques: which we do, we got it from davidm |
| 02:47.33 | gb2 | the library used to be named libf2c |
| 02:47.38 | gb2 | it got renamed to libg2c though |
| 02:49.03 | jacques | gb2, thanks for the info - that explains it - I disabled f77 building too |
| 02:49.29 | jacques | kergoth maybe some ppl actually want to use uclibc locales then? I wouldn't want to screw them |
| 02:49.45 | kergoth | jacques: dont know |
| 02:49.56 | jacques | however, currently the only way to disable them is to not build g++ at all - which will really screw with some ppl |
| 02:50.15 | kergoth | well, i'm sure we can find a better fix than that. |
| 02:50.30 | kergoth | libsdtc++ shouldnt be attempting to use it if it isnt enabled. |
| 02:50.40 | jacques | we probably can, *I* have so far failed :-( |
| 02:50.48 | kergoth | if i have to, i'll pester mjn3 about it. he authored the patch that made it work at all |
| 02:51.05 | jacques | yeah I was hoping to see him on #uclibc but he seems gone |
| 02:51.26 | jacques | he hasn't been on there in a while |
| 02:51.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:53.08 | jacques | kergoth I had to touch gcc_3.4.2.oe and gcc-cross_3.4.2.oe (in addition to uclibc config) - what's the clean way to make it so we can build things with "small" uclibc without messing up everything else that uses gcc ? |
| 02:54.01 | jacques | gcc-uclibc-nolocales_* and gcc-cross-uclibc-nolocales_* ? |
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| 02:57.24 | kergoth | jacques: something like that could work. then you'd just tweak your preferred providers to make use of it. |
| 02:59.20 | kergoth | whew! |
| 02:59.28 | kergoth | i fixed the target gcc build for uclibc |
| 02:59.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:00.25 | jacques | kergoth you serious?? excellent! |
| 03:00.35 | kergoth | not without locales :) |
| 03:00.40 | kergoth | fixed the native toolchain |
| 03:00.44 | kergoth | locales is next on the list |
| 03:00.44 | jacques | now make the glibc target gcc build actually install a working compiler :-) |
| 03:00.54 | kergoth | i've had it working. |
| 03:01.06 | jacques | in the past or now ? |
| 03:01.07 | kergoth | i thought everything was fixed, but fdv reported that new bug |
| 03:01.09 | kergoth | i'll take care of it |
| 03:01.17 | kergoth | last week, before i checked in the fixes for it |
| 03:01.24 | jacques | please do locales first - I was kinda kidding about the glibc thing! |
| 03:01.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:01.38 | kergoth | god i love this monitor |
| 03:01.48 | kergoth | i wish dell would hurry up with teh exchange process already |
| 03:01.57 | jacques | lcd ? |
| 03:02.34 | kergoth | jacques: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4111 |
| 03:03.32 | jacques | oooooh pretty! |
| 03:03.49 | jacques | very pretty |
| 03:03.55 | kergoth | indeed. http://hyperion.kergoth.com/images/monitor0.jpg |
| 03:04.21 | kergoth | now just need to upgrade the machine thats driving it so it can actually not suck |
| 03:04.27 | kergoth | box is decrepit |
| 03:04.56 | jacques | im still using 17" crts from 1999 |
| 03:07.02 | treke|home | how much was it? |
| 03:07.11 | treke|home | kergoth |
| 03:07.13 | treke|home | not jacques |
| 03:07.29 | jacques | heh |
| 03:07.48 | treke|home | fuck that isn't bad |
| 03:08.00 | treke|home | they bought a couple of the new apples at work |
| 03:08.53 | kergoth | treke|home: i paid $675. it's been as low as $645, depends on the current running coupons & shit at dell home. |
| 03:09.08 | treke|home | kergoth, I might have to get one for home :p |
| 03:09.11 | treke|home | this 19 inch sucks ass |
| 03:09.33 | treke|home | (crt, old, round, big) |
| 03:10.00 | kergoth | eh, yep, upgrade time |
| 03:10.19 | kergoth | i was using a 19" sony trinitron, which was nice for its time, but was flaking out on me |
| 03:11.05 | treke|home | I'm torn between an lcd or a laptop |
| 03:16.54 | mithro | i'm using 3 15" monitors from 1998 |
| 03:17.08 | mithro | and i've lost my second zaurus :/ |
| 03:45.19 | kergoth | emte: dood. |
| 03:45.26 | kergoth | libiconv was one seriously fucked up .oe |
| 03:45.42 | kergoth | your install of its local libtool.m4 into staging fucked up the build of every last package that builds after it. |
| 03:46.25 | emte | there were a few warnings with libiconv about that |
| 03:46.34 | kergoth | its all happy now |
| 03:46.40 | kergoth | i needed it working to build glib-2.0 with uclibc |
| 03:47.16 | emte | supposedly you need to build libiconv then rebuild glibc, gettext and a couple other system tools |
| 03:47.32 | kergoth | you dont need libiconv if you're using glibc. |
| 03:47.38 | emte | glad you got it working |
| 03:47.39 | kergoth | and in fact, building it will cause problems |
| 03:47.44 | kergoth | glibc provides iconv itself |
| 03:47.54 | emte | yeah we descovered taht |
| 03:47.56 | kergoth | libiconv will overwrite the gglibc iconv.h and cause no end of problems |
| 03:48.01 | emte | discovered * |
| 03:48.42 | emte | i think thats the reason for the rebuild of glibc and gettext after building libiconv |
| 03:48.48 | kergoth | yep |
| 03:48.52 | kergoth | that would do it |
| 03:48.59 | kergoth | i had to do just that |
| 03:49.07 | emte | tho your right about not needing it for glibc unless you NEED the extra locale support |
| 03:49.11 | kergoth | ah well, no worries, its all good now |
| 03:49.42 | kergoth | should split libintl out of the target 'gettext' package into its own ipk, so you can install gettext without it for glibc root filesystems |
| 03:49.47 | kergoth | but thats a minor thing |
| 03:49.48 | emte | i had actually read about it a bit more after raster was fighting with it |
| 03:50.42 | emte | well libiconv is supposed to solve taht problem if you jump through the hoops |
| 03:51.55 | emte | but i am glad you got it to work for uclibc |
| 03:52.13 | emte | must mean uclibc is almost usable now for an image:) |
| 03:52.26 | kergoth | not for opie, opie still crashes & burns |
| 03:52.31 | kergoth | gonna try a gpe/uclibc image on my Z |
| 03:52.47 | emte | hmm i should try a spin for the h36 |
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| 03:53.42 | emte | tho i am not sure glib will build for me |
| 03:54.19 | emte | i still have no idea why it barfs |
| 03:54.32 | kergoth | wipe and try it. let me know if it fails |
| 03:55.21 | emte | will do |
| 03:55.41 | emte | give my comp something to do while i work on my formal report |
| 03:56.30 | emte | have the changes made it to anon?> |
| 03:56.41 | emte | or are they in devel still? |
| 03:56.53 | kergoth | dunno if anyone has synced lately |
| 03:56.56 | kergoth | i'll sync now |
| 03:57.02 | emte | k |
| 03:57.40 | kergoth | done |
| 03:59.24 | emte | yeah i had to demangel rxvt-unicode first :) |
| 03:59.31 | emte | demangle* |
| 04:01.10 | emte | danmit forgot about RENAME |
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| 04:04.29 | emte | damn i am tired ... and i did some stupid mistakes on my physics test ... |
| 04:04.36 | emte | oh well |
| 04:05.23 | emte | next time i write m*m=2M i am gonna pay someoen to give me a beating |
| 04:05.30 | emte | someone* |
| 04:07.31 | emte | HP Oscilloscope 54645A 229-3 US37090867 |
| 04:07.34 | emte | bah |
| 04:07.39 | emte | get into report |
| 04:09.46 | emte | damnit ... forgot to write down the func gen model ... |
| 04:19.31 | mithro | google should be able to fine my c700 for me :/ |
| 04:19.40 | emte | lol |
| 04:19.54 | emte | thats a task for the new MS search no :P |
| 04:20.25 | mithro | anyone got a 3.5.2 image for 860? |
| 04:20.32 | emte | should be a selection in one of their "advanced find feilds" |
| 04:21.01 | mithro | i'm trying to fix a bug but i can't find my testing device :/ |
| 04:25.22 | mithro | kergoth: can you do a nand backup with dd in linux? ie dd if=/dev/mtdblock1 etc? |
| 04:25.59 | kergoth | you'd have to back up each partition individually |
| 04:28.52 | emte | texmacs needs to learn to draw schematics ... |
| 04:28.58 | emte | then it would be perfect |
| 04:38.36 | mithro | kergoth: whats the magic combination to get into the nand backup menu? |
| 04:39.06 | kergoth | mithro: diagnostics? depends on the model. |
| 04:39.41 | mithro | c860? |
| 04:40.34 | kergoth | try holding d+m during the bootloader execution |
| 04:40.51 | kergoth | (either through a reboot, or while you're forcing a reset by yanking power & battery |
| 04:40.51 | kergoth | ) |
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| 04:45.55 | mithro | thanks that works |
| 04:45.59 | kergoth | np |
| 04:46.24 | mithro | so do you know if anyone has built 3.5.2 images for 860 which i can test with? |
| 04:46.37 | kergoth | i'd recommend doing a build yourself |
| 04:46.42 | kergoth | dunno if anyone has |
| 04:47.09 | mithro | i would but i'm out of disk space atm :/ |
| 04:47.29 | kergoth | ah |
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| 04:49.43 | mithro | i guess i'll flash 3.5.1 and see if my suspcisions are true |
| 04:51.02 | mithro | have you done a nand backup recently? |
| 04:53.48 | mithro | for some reason i can't do a nand backup with my 2.2gb microdrive :/ |
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| 04:57.16 | mithro | wb kergoth |
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| 05:01.24 | kergoth | thanks |
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| 05:09.03 | mithro | kergoth: do you know mickeyl's email address? |
| 05:09.37 | mithro | btw anyone know why portmap is installed on 3.5.1? |
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| 05:10.00 | treke|home | dunno. probably gets sucked in as a depend of something |
| 05:10.49 | mithro | treke: resolvconf needs to be NOT installed in 3.5.2 if you want a working /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:11.04 | treke|home | ./meta/task-bootstrap.oe:RRECOMMENDS = 'dropbear lrzsz portmap \ |
| 05:11.28 | treke|home | maybe ipkg treats RECOMMENDS as DEPENDS |
| 05:11.36 | emte | need portmap for NFS support |
| 05:11.47 | kergoth | mithro: i'd much rather juts fix resolvconf. |
| 05:11.52 | kergoth | it really is quite useful |
| 05:12.05 | treke|home | emte: I don't think we need nfs support out of the box :) |
| 05:12.24 | mithro | kergoth: it requires bash |
| 05:12.33 | treke|home | mithro: that's fixable |
| 05:12.35 | chouimat|zzzz | night |
| 05:12.57 | mithro | yeah but untill it's fixed it shouldn't be included by default |
| 05:13.01 | treke|home | emte: I didn't say it shouldnt be available. |
| 05:13.09 | treke|home | emte: Just that i don't think it should be on the base image |
| 05:14.09 | emte | i think there is lots of stuff like that :) |
| 05:14.36 | mithro | dunno how resolvconf is getting into the image anyway? it doesn't appear in any depends i could find |
| 05:14.49 | mithro | treke: i agree |
| 05:16.52 | treke|home | it shouldnt be on the image. I dont see any depends on it |
| 05:17.32 | treke|home | for that matter it isn't on images as built by me. |
| 05:17.38 | mithro | treke: thats what i mean |
| 05:17.43 | mithro | how did it get into 3.5.1? |
| 05:18.08 | treke|home | ~lart mithro |
| 05:18.29 | treke|home | here's a hint |
| 05:18.33 | mithro | treke: it is in 3.5.1 and as far as i new nobody had changed that |
| 05:18.46 | treke|home | don't look at the source for 3.5.2 and go "why does this happen in 3.5.1" |
| 05:19.33 | mithro | i guess somebody else fixed it then... |
| 05:20.19 | mithro | well resolvconf doesn't even build now anyway :) |
| 05:20.38 | mithro | treke: how did you find that changeset? |
| 05:20.43 | treke|home | ~lart mithro again for good measure |
| 05:20.55 | treke|home | mithro: I looked on http://openembedded.bkbits.net |
| 05:21.42 | mithro | treke: ahh i was trying to use grep on output from bk |
| 05:21.50 | mithro | which wasn't working very well.. |
| 05:21.53 | treke|home | I'm sure it could have told you the same thing |
| 05:22.35 | mithro | yeah i'm sure it could but i'm not skilled enough to make it do that yet |
| 05:22.46 | mithro | hence why i was asking for how you got it :) |
| 05:22.51 | treke|home | I just don't particularly know that part well and the gui tool is too slow |
| 05:23.36 | mithro | so.. you wouldn't happen to have a recent 3.5.2 build for husky/boxer that i could test for bugs found in 3.5.2? |
| 05:23.41 | treke|home | no |
| 05:23.52 | mithro | resolvconf doesn't even build now anyway :/ |
| 05:24.10 | treke|home | bk changes | grep resolvconf will tell you :p |
| 05:25.04 | treke|home | ChangeSet@1.2306.32.2, 2004-10-02 00:13:11+02:00, reenoo@sugarcube.dyndns.org |
| 05:28.00 | emte | evil kernel loop |
| 05:30.32 | CIA-7 | 03mithro 07 * r1.2556 10packages-devel/resolvconf/resolvconf_1.22.oe: New resolvconf - old no longer avalible from debian mirror. |
| 05:35.42 | emte | hmm |
| 05:36.08 | emte | uclibc-initial has a target issue ... |
| 05:36.53 | kergoth | ? |
| 05:36.57 | kergoth | target issue? |
| 05:37.09 | emte | yeah it was looping on the config |
| 05:37.18 | emte | to select the target |
| 05:37.20 | kergoth | that just means upstream changed the config |
| 05:37.25 | kergoth | and our defconfig is out of date |
| 05:37.37 | emte | .config:69: trying to assign nonexistent symbol UCLIBC_PROFILING |
| 05:37.37 | emte | Your display is too small to run Menuconfig! |
| 05:37.37 | emte | It must be at least 19 lines by 80 columns. |
| 05:37.41 | emte | stupid thing |
| 05:41.25 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2559 10packages-devel/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Kill off uclibc 0.9.21, unless someone else wants to pick up maintainance, and made the uclibc builds obey USE_NLS. |
| 05:41.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:41.32 | kergoth | oops |
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| 05:44.15 | emte | ? |
| 05:44.31 | kergoth | pushed too many changesets at once |
| 05:44.34 | kergoth | flooded the bot off |
| 05:44.42 | emte | we didnt need him anyway :P |
| 05:44.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:45.01 | kergoth | working on making it possible to globally disable nls support in oe, for devices that dont need it |
| 05:45.04 | kergoth | just about done |
| 05:45.33 | emte | hmm |
| 05:46.13 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.13 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.13 | emte | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.13 | emte | which one for SA-1110 |
| 05:46.13 | kergoth | doesnt matter, we end up overriding the optimizations anyway |
| 05:46.13 | kergoth | just hit enter through all the options |
| 05:46.21 | emte | Generic arm? |
| 05:46.30 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2560.1.1 10packages-devel/ (19 files in 8 dirs): Make some packages that were setting --(dis|en)able-nls use the gettext oeclass instead. |
| 05:46.34 | kergoth | thats fine, once again, which you choose doesnt matter in this case |
| 05:48.50 | emte | lets see if she goes ... |
| 05:49.14 | emte | hope it was the uclibc-cvs/arm/uClibc.config |
| 05:49.22 | emte | i was replacing |
| 05:49.40 | emte | find out in a second |
| 05:57.30 | CIA-10 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2563 10packages-devel/ (33 files in 17 dirs): Kill manual dependency on gettext-native in favor of inheriting the oeclass, in some packages. |
| 06:03.20 | kergoth | you're going to bed before midnight? |
| 06:03.22 | kergoth | thats just.. odd |
| 06:03.31 | treke|home | I know |
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| 06:48.01 | emte | kergoth its a nogo ... pukes alot about a missing i686-uclibc-gcc then goes into the config loop |
| 06:48.22 | kergoth | i686-uclibc? that doesnt make any sense |
| 06:49.41 | emte | sec i'll grab the log |
| 06:49.54 | kergoth | k |
| 06:50.19 | emte | + make OPTIMIZATION= 'CPU_CFLAGS=-fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers |
| 06:50.19 | emte | -O2' STRIPTOOL=true LD=i686-linux-uclibc-ld LOCALE_DATA_FILENAME=uClibc-locale-030818.tgz oldconfig |
| 06:50.19 | emte | /bin/sh: line 1: i686-linux-uclibc-gcc: command not found |
| 06:50.19 | emte | make: execvp: i686-linux-uclibc-gcc: Permission denied |
| 06:50.43 | kergoth | LD=i686-linux-uclibc-ld? |
| 06:50.49 | kergoth | sounds like your TARGET_ARCH is wrong. |
| 06:51.04 | emte | shouldnt be |
| 06:51.12 | kergoth | oebuild showdata ../packages/uclibc/uclibc_cvs.oe|grep ^TARGET_ARCH |
| 06:51.45 | emte | [openembedded@t build]$ oebuild showdata ../packages/uclibc/uclibc_cvs.oe|grep ^TARGET_ARCH |
| 06:51.45 | emte | TARGET_ARCH="i686" |
| 06:51.45 | emte | TARGET_ARCH=i686 |
| 06:51.45 | emte | [openembedded@t build]$ |
| 06:51.51 | emte | hmm |
| 06:51.53 | kergoth | well then. |
| 06:51.56 | emte | i never edited that one |
| 06:52.00 | kergoth | your OEPATH is wrong, or your local.conf is wrong |
| 06:52.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:53.04 | emte | set h3600 |
| 06:53.26 | emte | i'll disable it for TARGET_ARCH and see what happens |
| 06:53.35 | kergoth | ? |
| 06:53.51 | emte | using MACHINE = "h3600" |
| 06:53.57 | kergoth | if MACHINE is h3600, and your TARGET_ARCH is still wrong, then your OEPATH is incorrect, or your packages tree is messed up. |
| 06:54.39 | emte | [openembedded@t build]$ echo $OEPATH |
| 06:54.39 | emte | /home/OE/speedracer/build/:/home/OE/speedracer/packages/:/home/OE/speedracer/oe/ |
| 06:54.43 | kergoth | confirm that packages/conf/machine/h3600.conf exists. |
| 06:54.44 | emte | oepath is fine |
| 06:55.30 | emte | [openembedded@t build]$ ls -l ../packages/conf/machine/h3600.conf |
| 06:55.30 | emte | -r--r--r-- 1 openembedded openembedded 934 Nov 15 20:15 ../packages/conf/machine/h3600.conf |
| 06:55.30 | emte | [openembedded@t build]$ |
| 06:55.42 | kergoth | well, dunno what to tell you |
| 06:55.45 | kergoth | the problem is in your environment |
| 06:56.23 | emte | i'll see if target helps |
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| 06:56.34 | kergoth | h3600.conf sets TARGET_ARCH man. |
| 06:56.45 | kergoth | if your TARGET_ARCH isnt set by setting MACHINE correctly, then h3600.conf isnt being parsed at all |
| 06:56.51 | kergoth | and you're going to have a lot more problems than just htat |
| 06:56.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:57.02 | emte | yeah but i was mangling h3600 before to remove the dep on bluez |
| 06:57.08 | kergoth | ah |
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| 07:27.46 | emte | | -Dinhibit_libc -c /home/OE/speedracer/build/tmp/work/gcc-cross-initial-3.4.2-r1/gcc-3.4.2/gcc/crtstuff.c -DCRT_BEGIN \ |
| 07:27.46 | emte | | -o crtbegin.o |
| 07:27.46 | emte | | /tmp/cc0iqODj.s: Assembler messages: |
| 07:27.46 | emte | | /tmp/cc0iqODj.s:37: Warning: rest of line ignored; first ignored character is `@' |
| 07:27.46 | emte | | /tmp/cc0iqODj.s:38: Warning: rest of line ignored; first ignored character is `@' |
| 07:27.48 | emte | | /tmp/cc0iqODj.s:39: Error: no such instruction: `stmfd sp!,{r4,r5,lr}' |
| 07:27.50 | emte | ugly |
| 07:28.22 | emte | toasting tmp trying again |
| 07:28.33 | emte | we will see if it ate my drive while i sleep |
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| 09:03.03 | Bernardo | 'morning |
| 09:08.43 | freyther | Bernardo: hi |
| 09:08.53 | freyther | Bernardo: how far is lirc? |
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| 09:14.04 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 09:18.41 | XorA | morning |
| 09:20.30 | Bernardo | freyther: haven't had the time yesterday and sunday to do much, but I am begining to suspect my simpad might be broken - I got it to learn codes from my remote, but then it doesn't seem to be sending anything, even though lircd says it sent without any problems |
| 09:21.01 | Bernardo | or it might be lirc_sir that was already broken in lirc 0.6.6 |
| 09:21.54 | Bernardo | I'll have to look at it in depth when I have some time (anyone knows how to get a nine months old to understand her dady's simpad is her dady's toy, not hers?) |
| 09:25.19 | hrw|work | hi |
| 09:25.25 | XorA | hi |
| 09:26.50 | hrw|work | I have to set DPI=100 in XFree config...bleh |
| 09:29.18 | XorA | on a PDA? or desktop? |
| 09:29.36 | hrw|work | desktop |
| 09:29.49 | XorA | ah, you got an ancient monitor? |
| 09:30.04 | hrw|work | basically X11 gets monitor info via DDC but sometimes it set 75dpi instead of 101dpi |
| 09:30.29 | hrw|work | not so ancient - samsung syncmaster 757dfx which I bought 2years ago |
| 09:30.50 | XorA | wierd, normally works for me on TFT |
| 09:31.44 | hrw|work | DisplaySize setting should help |
| 09:32.34 | XorA | in fact hasnt been since 3.9 when I was writing drivers for Kyro chipset since it didnt work |
| 09:37.42 | freyther | lol if I write a Diploma Thesis at MicroSoft on will get a package of M$ Office 2003, a Book of the MS press and you may visit them once... |
| 09:38.53 | hrw|work | zecke: write something about that M$ is bad and why you dont like them |
| 09:40.55 | XorA | I thought if you wrote it in office you'd never finish, I had to rescue my Fiance's dissertation a couple of times |
| 09:41.14 | hrw|work | I used LateX2e |
| 09:42.08 | XorA | same here, I finished a week early and laughed at the guys sweating int he PC lab |
| 09:42.38 | XorA | funny how latex produced a nice layout on a 7Mhz machine and they all needed the new 90Mhz Pentiums |
| 09:43.58 | freyther | XorA: hehe |
| 09:44.47 | freyther | hrw|work: We get M$ advertisements by email (spam), this all due the great dean, but sadly his working groups works with M$ :} |
| 09:52.29 | hrw|work | re |
| 09:53.22 | hrw|work | XorA: I used latex on my 600MHz pc so cannot say how it works on slow.. but as it is ascii then I could edit it on 5MHz 386sx which I also used |
| 09:54.32 | hrw|work | we got problems with power here - sometimes my pc restarts... |
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| 10:03.01 | hrw|work | hi RP |
| 10:03.06 | XorA | hrw|work: LaTeX works well on an amiga :-) |
| 10:03.21 | hrw|work | XorA: I sold amiga before started using latex |
| 10:03.38 | hrw|work | s/latex/LaTeX |
| 10:06.24 | hrw|work | takepatch: 630 new revisions, 0 conflicts in 190 files |
| 10:06.38 | hrw|work | it's hard to follow OE last days |
| 10:07.11 | freyther | hrw|work: yeah quite fast |
| 10:08.03 | hrw|work | freyther: OZ release + License makes new changesets |
| 10:08.22 | XorA | someone should stick those figures on the website, makes the project seem very alive rather than the dead it looked from web presence for a while |
| 10:09.15 | hrw|work | XorA: somekind of statistics? |
| 10:09.32 | freyther | ~botmail for mickeyl Alwin mentioned the depends on libsqlite3 seems to be wrong, meta-opie doesn't build due iqnotes and tickypip and opie-mediaplayer2 needs to be checked too |
| 10:09.45 | XorA | yeah, anything that says the amount of work the dudes have put in would be cool |
| 10:10.00 | hrw|work | freyther: meta-opie is my task |
| 10:10.03 | RP | hi hrw|work (and others) |
| 10:11.29 | hrw|work | freyther: iqnotes source is missing & tickypip levels are gone too - that's the errors? |
| 10:11.45 | freyther | hrw|work: Oh ok, I don't know mickeys release schedule and wanted to make him aware of that |
| 10:11.54 | hrw|work | sure |
| 10:11.56 | freyther | hrw|work: And I maybe broke opie-mediaplayer2 |
| 10:12.58 | hrw|work | freyther: by removing tremor_200*? |
| 10:15.25 | freyther | hrw|work: no you've added the svn fecther once?! |
| 10:16.38 | hrw|work | added |
| 10:17.00 | freyther | hrw|work: so tremor gets fetched and latest libxine uses tremor again |
| 10:17.11 | hrw|work | freyther: I think that treke still has archives but he wants license in oefiles |
| 10:18.41 | Twiun | hi guys |
| 10:18.45 | Twiun | Anyone have suggestions for a good (not necessarily OSS) document management system; possibly also for use with sources? |
| 10:19.24 | freyther | Twiun: sorry nope |
| 10:19.53 | hrw|work | ~seen treke |
| 10:19.54 | ibot | treke is currently on #opie #oe #handhelds.org. Has said a total of 75 messages. Is idling for 8h 35m 2s |
| 10:20.25 | freyther | hrw|work: doesn't fetching tremor_svn.oe work for you? |
| 10:21.14 | hrw|work | freyther: mplayer 1.0.3 needs tremor 2003 not current one ;( |
| 10:21.44 | freyther | hrw|work: oh sorry :} |
| 10:21.54 | freyther | freyther: I'll readd it when I'm home |
| 10:22.01 | freyther | and add a license |
| 10:22.04 | mithro | hey hrw|work |
| 10:22.19 | freyther | ~lart the fucking keyboard |
| 10:22.37 | hrw|work | freyther: cd packages/tremor/; bk unrm tremor_20040602.oe tremor_20030325.oe |
| 10:22.51 | freyther | hrw|work: yeah once I'm $HOME |
| 10:22.56 | hrw|work | freyther: okiej |
| 10:23.04 | freyther | hrw|work: or feel free to add LICENSE="BSD" yourself |
| 10:23.13 | freyther | hrw|work: and sorry I didn't know it is still used |
| 10:23.17 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:23.19 | freyther | s/uses/used |
| 10:25.37 | hrw|work | freyther: basically treke has all sources - available are only those for packages with correct LICENSE |
| 10:25.37 | CIA-10 | 03hrw 07 * r1.2565 10packages-devel/tremor/ (tremor_20030325.oe tremor_20040602.oe): tremor snapshots: added LICENSE so they can reappear on treke source mirror |
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| 10:56.42 | cmartin | anybody know an alternate mirror for pdx.freedesktop.org? the site hasn't been reachable for hours and i can't continue my build unless there's mirror i could use |
| 10:57.18 | XorA | cmartin: Im stuck in same place :-( |
| 10:57.31 | cmartin | xext? |
| 10:58.01 | hrw|work | cmartin: freedesktop has power outage or sth like that |
| 10:59.04 | XorA | cmartin: xprop |
| 11:00.46 | cmartin | hmm, no alternative PREFERRED_PROVIDERS? |
| 11:04.18 | mickeyl | nothin on treke.net? |
| 11:05.19 | cmartin | k, i found one - cvs -d:pserver:anonymous freedom.codefactory.se:/freedesktop |
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| 11:05.59 | proti | morning |
| 11:06.52 | cmartin | hi mickeyl |
| 11:07.15 | cmartin | mickeyl, how would i set that as a PREFERRED_PROVIDER in my local.conf? |
| 11:11.30 | mickeyl | preferred provider has nothing to do with source mirror |
| 11:11.54 | mickeyl | preferred provider just choses between multiple .oe files providing the same |
| 11:12.15 | hrw|work | cmartin: you want CVS_TARBALL_STASH |
| 11:12.29 | mickeyl | you woud have to edit the SRC_URI in the said file or use what hrw said |
| 11:12.51 | hrw|work | mickeyl: read botmail? |
| 11:12.59 | mickeyl | no |
| 11:13.03 | mickeyl | doing |
| 11:13.32 | mithro | hey mickeyl |
| 11:13.34 | mickeyl | iqnotes is away |
| 11:13.39 | mickeyl | unfortunate |
| 11:13.56 | mickeyl | anyone of you having it mirrored? |
| 11:14.03 | hrw|work | mickeyl: treke has |
| 11:14.14 | hrw|work | not in oe/sources/ but has |
| 11:14.19 | mithro | mickeyl: the resolvconf problem was a non-issue |
| 11:14.19 | cmartin | hrw|work, i see nothing usefull for xext at treke.net, so the CVS_TARBALL_STASH will find nothing |
| 11:14.20 | hrw|work | I have too |
| 11:15.12 | mithro | it was fixed a long time ago for a different reason |
| 11:15.28 | mickeyl | oh cool, mithro |
| 11:15.54 | freyther | bis päter |
| 11:16.20 | mithro | mickeyl: so you are building 3.5.2 soon? |
| 11:16.25 | mithro | i can do testing on husky |
| 11:16.33 | mickeyl | cmartin: i can give you a temporary url into my source mirror |
| 11:16.46 | mickeyl | mithro: likely on weekend |
| 11:17.02 | cmartin | mickeyl, would be very grateful :) |
| 11:17.55 | CIA-10 | 03hrw 07 * r1.2566 10packages-devel/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:17.55 | CIA-10 | tickypip: |
| 11:17.55 | CIA-10 | levels are not available for download |
| 11:17.55 | CIA-10 | removed older version |
| 11:18.04 | mickeyl | cmartin: try http://www.vanille.de/mirror/sources |
| 11:18.09 | mickeyl | temp. |
| 11:19.04 | hrw|work | mickeyl: vanille.de is your build machine? |
| 11:19.38 | mickeyl | no, it's my wb server, but via nfs access to the build machine |
| 11:19.45 | mickeyl | s/wb/web/ |
| 11:20.06 | hrw|work | aha |
| 11:22.13 | cmartin | ahh, i see there are already tar.gz in my sources, but they're all stamped with the date - would it also do the trick to move the newest file to a name without the timestamp in the name? |
| 11:23.40 | mickeyl | try moving it to the name it expects |
| 11:24.00 | cmartin | mickeyl, all your sources from freedesktop.org are not timestamped - can i deactivate this feature all together? - i notice i have many versions in my sources |
| 11:24.41 | Bernardo|meeting | mickeyl: I have iqnotes ipk online, and can get you the tarball later today, when I get home |
| 11:24.49 | mickeyl | cool, thanks |
| 11:25.22 | mickeyl | cmartin: ah right, i remember now |
| 11:25.30 | mickeyl | timestamping was killed in favour of cvs update iirc |
| 11:25.55 | Bernardo|meeting | if you want the ipk (built saturday) I can give you the link |
| 11:26.21 | mickeyl | no, thanks, we just need a source mirror which i will provide then |
| 11:26.36 | hrw|work | mickeyl: for iqnotes source speak with treke - he has it outside of official OE source mirror |
| 11:26.51 | mickeyl | tickypip builds fine here |
| 11:27.23 | hrw|work | mickeyl: without additional levels |
| 11:28.44 | mithro | i finish my exams on friday |
| 11:30.08 | mickeyl | cool. good result? |
| 11:31.35 | hrw|work | XorA: what is it? |
| 11:32.23 | XorA | where you send a product to a lab and they asses you have done due diligence on making the code immune to various attacks (I work on smartcards) |
| 11:32.31 | XorA | similar to common criteria |
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| 11:51.03 | mithro | mickeyl: i guess so :) will need to get my c860 running spic and span for a conference which starts on 1st December |
| 11:51.44 | cmartin | mickeyl, when was timestamping killed for cvs? - i pulled oe and packages yesterday and when i run "oebuild ../../packages/xext/xext_cvs.oe" i get this: |
| 11:51.48 | cmartin | NOTE: package xext-0.0cvs20041116-r0: task do_fetch started |
| 11:51.57 | cmartin | so it's still timestamping |
| 11:53.32 | mithro | the Zaurus is a great ice breaker :) |
| 11:53.41 | mithro | specially at nerd conferences |
| 11:53.58 | mickeyl | cmartin: this is not source timestamping, it is build timestamping. did you check what it actually tries to download? |
| 11:55.57 | hrw|work | mickeyl: in DL_DIR I have timestamped cvs archives |
| 11:56.18 | hrw|work | zaurus/oe/arch/downloads/xc.programs.xrdb_pdx.freedesktop.org__20041101.tar.gz |
| 11:56.25 | hrw|work | for example |
| 11:57.36 | hrw|work | zaurus/oe/arch/downloads/kdepim_cvs.sourceforge.net__20041116.tar.gz |
| 11:59.34 | mickeyl | ah right |
| 11:59.36 | mickeyl | me too |
| 11:59.44 | mickeyl | just a couple of files without stamps |
| 12:00.24 | mickeyl | the freedesktop ones |
| 12:00.46 | mickeyl | aah ups |
| 12:00.54 | mickeyl | heh there's a bug in my webserver |
| 12:00.58 | mickeyl | it truncates after __ |
| 12:01.05 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 12:01.18 | mickeyl | and it doesn't show all files in the directory |
| 12:01.19 | mickeyl | odd |
| 12:06.34 | hrw|work | apache 2.0.50 |
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| 12:23.29 | cmartin | ah that explains it |
| 12:25.41 | cmartin | just i can finally continue mx build i just copied the last tar.gz of the file to file name with todays date :) |
| 12:25.57 | cmartin | i know it's not good practice |
