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| 02:42.05 | mjc | HCl: ah. |
| 02:42.11 | mjc | kergoth: around? :) |
| 02:43.33 | mjc | opie is also pleasantly faster on today's build than on 3.3.5 |
| 02:43.42 | mjc | far less lag when starting apps |
| 02:43.44 | kergoth | for the moment |
| 02:43.46 | kergoth | glad to hear it |
| 02:43.52 | mjc | kergoth: http://325i.org/feed/poodle |
| 02:43.55 | mjc | tslib works. |
| 02:44.07 | mjc | that's opie-image and meta-opie |
| 02:44.12 | kergoth | nice |
| 02:44.13 | mjc | building gpe-image and meta-gpe now |
| 02:44.28 | kergoth | its good to see things finally coming together |
| 02:44.34 | mjc | feel free to post it to the mailing list but I won't be able to check my mail, irc is a better communication medium |
| 02:44.37 | mjc | indeed |
| 02:49.48 | mjc | kergoth: it would be nice if gpe works as wlel |
| 02:49.50 | mjc | well. |
| 02:50.31 | mjc | we could then provide OZ with both. |
| 02:51.20 | kergoth | yeah. console, opie, and gpe images |
| 02:53.51 | mjc | is there a gpe port of xine/mplayer? |
| 02:54.14 | kergoth | better off using gstreamer, i'd think |
| 02:54.33 | kergoth | but i'm sure there's a gtk2 xine frontend you could use on a pda. wonder how totem's gui would look there |
| 02:54.51 | mjc | gstreamer works? |
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| 03:11.10 | mjc | kergoth: stargate fan? |
| 03:11.27 | kergoth | sorta, watch it when i can, but often miss episodes |
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| 03:19.48 | treke|home | tivo ++ |
| 03:22.14 | ljp | wow. that image is snappy |
| 03:24.59 | mjc | ljp: the poodle one? |
| 03:25.10 | mjc | from 325i? |
| 03:35.24 | mjc | kergoth: talking it into opie-mediaplayer would be kinda cool, teaching me how to do that would be even cooler. |
| 03:35.43 | kergoth | there are enough opie packages in oe already.. read :) |
| 03:35.48 | kergoth | opie-mediaplayer2 uses libxine |
| 03:35.58 | mjc | ah. |
| 03:37.14 | kergoth | what the fuck |
| 03:37.16 | mjc | ? |
| 03:37.16 | kergoth | i just got a bunch of unrar messages |
| 03:37.20 | mjc | lol. |
| 03:37.22 | kergoth | on the terminal thats compiling gcc-cross-initial |
| 03:37.27 | kergoth | where the hell did that come from |
| 03:37.30 | mjc | lol! |
| 03:38.07 | kergoth | this is what i get for trying to accomplish something on a sunday |
| 03:39.04 | kergoth | aha |
| 03:39.10 | kergoth | that tty has xmms backgrounded |
| 03:39.18 | kergoth | another terminal was doing xmms -e on a bunch of dirs |
| 03:39.25 | kergoth | so xmms was trying to poke inside the rars floating around |
| 03:40.31 | ljp | mjc: yes |
| 03:42.40 | mjc | ljp: agreed. first time I've gotten opie to build for poodle at all. |
| 03:43.04 | ljp | heh. i cant get past autoconf-native |
| 03:43.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:43.12 | mjc | ah it just flew by for me |
| 03:43.16 | kergoth | sounds like your build machine sucks |
| 03:43.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:43.25 | ljp | hmmm |
| 03:43.28 | mjc | and mine certainly does not. |
| 03:43.32 | ljp | probably |
| 03:44.45 | kergoth | does oe currently support emitting cramfs images? |
| 03:44.47 | ljp | its running debian |
| 03:44.50 | kergoth | if not, need to do so |
| 03:44.57 | mjc | FC2 x86-64 |
| 03:45.18 | ljp | mjc: which gcc is with copiled with? 3.4? |
| 03:45.22 | mjc | 3.3.4 |
| 03:45.32 | ljp | ahh |
| 03:45.34 | ljp | ok |
| 03:45.37 | kergoth | you should be able to use 3.4.1 now |
| 03:45.42 | kergoth | the qte bugs are gone |
| 03:45.58 | kergoth | s/bugs/bug and misconfiguration/; s/are/is/; |
| 03:46.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:48.23 | mjc | kergoth: I will try that after I finish meta-gpe. building gpe-image currently |
| 03:48.29 | kergoth | cool |
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| 03:51.35 | kergoth | why am i suddenly in the mood for a donut? |
| 03:51.35 | mjc | kergoth: just put up S4p1 |
| 03:52.24 | kergoth | ah cool |
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| 04:03.14 | kergoth | yo cterry |
| 04:04.02 | cterry | yo |
| 04:04.10 | cterry | How goes it? |
| 04:04.36 | kergoth | pretty good, working on an OE build for an arm big endian device |
| 04:04.37 | kergoth | bored |
| 04:04.42 | kergoth | bout to pop in a dvd |
| 04:04.43 | kergoth | you? |
| 04:04.47 | cterry | Good... |
| 04:05.00 | cterry | Need to read docs on howOE works.... |
| 04:05.05 | cterry | Im doing something wrong |
| 04:05.16 | kergoth | gettingstarted should be sufficient to get you building things |
| 04:05.25 | cterry | Yeah I did that... |
| 04:06.00 | cterry | but then... well... I made some changes to the config for the kernel and cant get it to make another one... |
| 04:06.24 | kergoth | rm -rf tmp/work/openzaurus* tmp/stamps/openzaurus* |
| 04:06.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:07.03 | cterry | Guess that would do it, but I didn't you tell nevarrie to use oemake -c clean the other dy |
| 04:07.04 | cterry | ? |
| 04:07.11 | cterry | (day) |
| 04:07.44 | kergoth | yes, which works also |
| 04:07.53 | kergoth | all clean does is what i just told you |
| 04:07.56 | kergoth | paste your OEPATH |
| 04:08.10 | cterry | here? |
| 04:08.35 | kergoth | sure, doesnt matter. its just a oneliner |
| 04:09.04 | cterry | OEPATH=/opt/zaurus/slc700/:/opt/zaurus/packages/:/opt/zaurus/oe/ |
| 04:10.05 | kergoth | looks fine. do you see it rm -rf the openzaurus dirs when you oemake -c clean openzaurus-pxa? |
| 04:11.11 | cterry | checking |
| 04:12.18 | ljp | is it supposed to be creating directory trees such as /mnt/hdb2/usr/opt/oe/build-arm/:/mnt/hdb2/usr/opt/oe/packages/:/mnt/hdb2/usr/opt/oe//oetmp/ |
| 04:12.27 | kergoth | no |
| 04:12.31 | cterry | lol.. it's parsing files... |
| 04:12.32 | kergoth | doesnt for me |
| 04:12.54 | ljp | hmm. ok. well it does for me |
| 04:12.58 | ljp | :) |
| 04:14.23 | cterry | Yeah, it removed the dirs. |
| 04:14.57 | kergoth | and when you run oemake again, it'll build openzaurus-pxa |
| 04:15.18 | cterry | oemake gpe-image? |
| 04:16.17 | kergoth | whatever you're buliding |
| 04:16.19 | kergoth | building |
| 04:16.28 | cterry | ok |
| 04:16.38 | cterry | I'll check when it is done |
| 04:17.54 | mjc | gpe-image built. |
| 04:22.52 | mjc | gpe-image is going up on 325i. |
| 04:22.57 | mjc | feelf ree to grab it ljp |
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| 05:02.43 | cterry | Ok kergoth, that worked. Can't explain why id didn't work before. tried it several times. weird. befor I did oemake -c clearn gpe-image and tehn oemake -c clean openzaurus-pxa |
| 05:02.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:03.01 | kergoth | dunno |
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| 05:57.01 | treke|home | evening |
| 05:58.01 | koen | morning all |
| 05:58.13 | treke|home | mornin koen |
| 05:59.59 | kergoth | hey treke|home, koen |
| 06:00.15 | treke|home | hows it goin kergoth? |
| 06:00.43 | kergoth | its monday. |
| 06:00.47 | kergoth | again |
| 06:00.50 | kergoth | otherwise pretty good |
| 06:00.51 | treke|home | hehe |
| 06:00.51 | kergoth | you? |
| 06:01.01 | treke|home | not bad |
| 06:01.07 | kergoth | got my first tattoo last night |
| 06:01.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:01.10 | treke|home | was at the movies, now settling in to finish off some work |
| 06:01.14 | treke|home | kergoth: ack |
| 06:01.18 | kergoth | ah thats cool, what movie? |
| 06:01.26 | treke|home | alien vs predator. |
| 06:01.32 | kergoth | heh, is it as bad as it looks? |
| 06:01.42 | kergoth | i'll probably get one more tattoo and possibly a piercing |
| 06:01.46 | treke|home | depends. I wasnt expecting much. It was entertaining |
| 06:01.55 | kergoth | nod |
| 06:02.09 | kergoth | not something to see if you want to think while watching the movie, eh |
| 06:02.14 | treke|home | yup |
| 06:02.15 | kergoth | shut the brain off |
| 06:02.16 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:02.38 | kergoth | treke|home: http://openembedded.org/dl/kergoth/valknut_tattoo1.jpg |
| 06:02.48 | kergoth | symbol from norse/viking mythology |
| 06:02.52 | cterry | sleep well all... don |
| 06:02.53 | cterry | t |
| 06:02.55 | kergoth | figured i'd get something my ancestors would have believed in |
| 06:02.56 | kergoth | night cterry |
| 06:02.57 | cterry | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.58 | cterry | :) |
| 06:03.17 | cterry | lol.. I have less than 5 hours till I get up :( |
| 06:03.26 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 06:03.42 | cterry | yup |
| 06:03.49 | cterry | my fault though. |
| 06:03.54 | cterry | see ya later... |
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| 06:18.57 | ljp | hmm. ok. well.. it works on this machine anyway |
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| 06:20.22 | CIA-5 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.1794.2.1 10packages/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Add MACHINE config for the linksys NSLU2, and aplpy the arm bigendian patches to gcc 3.4.x. |
| 06:20.25 | kergoth | rwhitby: :) |
| 06:23.11 | CIA-5 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.1794.2.2 10packages/base-files/base-files/nslu2/fstab: Add a default fstab for the NSLU2. |
| 06:24.49 | Bernardo | 'morning |
| 06:27.41 | CIA-5 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.1818 10packages/conf/oe.conf: |
| 06:27.41 | CIA-5 | Merge openembedded@openembedded.bkbits.net:packages |
| 06:27.41 | CIA-5 | into handhelds.org:/home/kergoth/code/packages |
| 06:27.43 | CIA-5 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.1794.2.3 10packages/conf/oe.conf: Dont expand SELECTED_OPTIMIZATION immediately, so the user can manipulate optimizations properly in their configuration files. |
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| 06:39.51 | treke|laptop | "A majority of Bud Light drinkers have declared that Miller Light has more taste than Bud light." As we all know, a majority of bud light drinkers have no taste. |
| 06:40.18 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:41.05 | treke|laptop | the funny bit was that the small print said it made no claims on preference. So it would be completly valid if a majority said it tasted like rat piss. |
| 06:41.10 | treke|laptop | which they probably did say |
| 06:44.06 | treke|laptop | kergoth: gonna install freebsd at home |
| 06:44.12 | treke|laptop | we'll see if stuff builds on it |
| 06:44.32 | kergoth | cool |
| 06:54.59 | Bernardo|away | going to work... :( |
| 06:58.31 | treke|laptop | suck |
| 06:59.01 | kergoth | i should rip the first season dvd of it one of these days |
| 06:59.08 | kergoth | quantum leap rocked |
| 06:59.11 | kergoth | al was great |
| 06:59.20 | treke|laptop | tivo usually has a couple episodes on hand |
| 06:59.33 | treke|laptop | kergoth: I always liked the way they ended the series |
| 06:59.46 | kergoth | the bartender who was god? |
| 06:59.54 | treke|laptop | sam never going home. |
| 07:00.02 | kergoth | nod |
| 07:00.07 | treke|laptop | I'm not really convinced the bartender was god anyways |
| 07:00.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:00.21 | kergoth | the last episode was pretty entertaining |
| 07:00.57 | treke|laptop | It was kind of funny watching the same actor pop up in an earlier episode |
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| 07:08.04 | kergoth | treke|home: hows your internet connectivity? still flaky? |
| 07:08.30 | treke|home | Pretty good now that I switched from dhcpcd to dhclient |
| 07:08.39 | kergoth | interesting |
| 07:08.48 | treke|home | the problem with verizion is that they didnt send out a renewaltime like dhcpcd expected |
| 07:08.57 | treke|home | So it assumed a time of something like a month |
| 07:09.11 | treke|home | and constantly forgot to renew before the 4 hour lease expired |
| 07:09.13 | kergoth | dhclient.. thats debian's default one, right? |
| 07:09.18 | treke|home | yeah |
| 07:09.28 | kergoth | cool |
| 07:09.55 | treke|home | now that I switched, I'm still going on the same ip I received after installing dhclient, about a week and a half ago. |
| 07:10.07 | treke|home | it's kind of funny |
| 07:10.26 | treke|home | out of all the complaints I hear about verizion and earthink, they've been the two most reliable ISPs I've had. |
| 07:10.26 | kergoth | heh, you dont normally think of the dhcp client as being a possible source of such a problem |
| 07:10.41 | treke|home | yeah |
| 07:10.51 | treke|home | was looking through the logs for clues |
| 07:11.19 | treke|home | the 10 digit long refresh time seemed odd for a 5 digit long lease time |
| 07:11.58 | treke|home | if I ever find a house I can afford, I might try speakeasy again |
| 07:12.10 | treke|home | but with housing like it is out here, that probably is a long way off |
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| 07:13.34 | treke|home | unfortunatly it seems like *everything* starts at 400 |
| 07:13.40 | kergoth | ow |
| 07:13.49 | treke|home | this is including condos. |
| 07:14.26 | treke|home | I'm seeing 1,100 square foot condos going for 470,000 |
| 07:14.46 | kergoth | fuck man |
| 07:14.48 | kergoth | thats insane |
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| 07:15.36 | treke|home | yeah |
| 07:25.39 | ljp | hmm. ok.. |
| 07:26.32 | ljp | parsing takes too long |
| 07:26.57 | treke|home | OEMASK is your friend |
| 07:28.01 | ljp | oemask, hey |
| 07:28.22 | kergoth | heh, just dont accidentally mask out something you need :) |
| 07:29.27 | ljp | like qte |
| 07:30.55 | ljp | or rum |
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| 07:51.49 | ljp | wow. its still building |
| 07:52.10 | ljp | maybe I can add qtopia |
| 07:53.38 | kergoth | hmm.. should sleep |
| 07:53.54 | pb_ | good plan |
| 07:54.22 | treke|home | bad plan |
| 07:54.56 | pb_ | too right |
| 07:56.09 | koen | my 8.30 appointment got rescheduled to 1330 |
| 07:56.22 | Timelord | Gasp. |
| 07:58.00 | ljp | kergoth is almost living on australian time |
| 07:58.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:58.15 | ljp | :) |
| 08:00.07 | torpor | can anyone recommend the 'best' video format to rip DVD's for playback on the sl5500? I'm going to convert my DVD lib this week so I can watch them on my sl5500 while on vacation ... |
| 08:00.10 | kergoth | blue man group. good stuff. |
| 08:00.36 | koen | torpor: mpeg1 is the best bet |
| 08:00.59 | torpor | format? |
| 08:01.03 | koen | IMHO |
| 08:01.19 | torpor | i forget the screen size and all that? i really want to optimize only for the sl5500 to playback... |
| 08:01.31 | koen | mpeg1 320x240 |
| 08:02.01 | ljp | optimal 1 frame per sec, so the zaurus can keep up with it ;) |
| 08:02.04 | torpor | thanks koen. |
| 08:02.13 | torpor | heh heh ... |
| 08:02.26 | koen | 12 or 15 fps is enough for a pda |
| 08:02.30 | torpor | really though, it is possible to watch mpegs on the sl5500 if they're in the right format, right? i think there's some magic to it. |
| 08:02.41 | ljp | yes there is |
| 08:02.44 | koen | my h2200 can do 28 fps 320x240 divx :) |
| 08:03.00 | torpor | cool. give it to me then, that'd be a nice solution. |
| 08:03.05 | ljp | wow. still building |
| 08:03.10 | koen | torpor: lol |
| 08:03.19 | kergoth | ljp: heh, what are you building? |
| 08:03.42 | ljp | opie |
| 08:03.48 | ljp | anything, really |
| 08:03.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:03.59 | torpor | i gave up on trying to get OE to build in OSX over the weekend ... couldn't solve the binutils-native issue ... if anyone has done OE on OSX, please let me know how ... |
| 08:04.20 | ljp | if I can get opie built, I will most likely get qtopia build working |
| 08:04.25 | kergoth | torpor: if you can get me shell access on your box i'd be willing to give it a shot |
| 08:04.36 | kergoth | ljp: cool |
| 08:04.57 | koen | torpor: as soon as apple returns my powerbook I will try it |
| 08:05.18 | kergoth | ljp: dont forget to mangle control files so the OE package architecture & stuff is reflected in the emitted ipks. or just talk oe into doing that itself |
| 08:05.57 | koen | torpor: could you add your experiences to the wiki? |
| 08:06.31 | torpor | kergoth: i'd give you shell access if there were an easy way for me to watch you and follow along... |
| 08:06.50 | kergoth | torpor: have screen installed? |
| 08:06.57 | torpor | koen: i don't want to add negative experiences to the wiki. i'd rather work on the issue and fix it, then add my details to the wiki. |
| 08:07.01 | kergoth | multiple people can connect to a screen session |
| 08:07.10 | koen | like screen -x? :) |
| 08:07.14 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:07.29 | torpor | installing screen now ... |
| 08:07.45 | torpor | though, i'm not sure i should do this, it would be an interesting experience to see an OE hacker go at it on my box ... ;) |
| 08:07.51 | kergoth | course i cant work on it now, its 3am and i'm only partially conscious. |
| 08:07.54 | kergoth | but later, sure :) |
| 08:07.57 | torpor | okay |
| 08:08.11 | torpor | well i'll give it another shot later tonight when i get home - its 10am here, so in 8 hours or so? |
| 08:08.21 | torpor | maybe 10... |
| 08:08.43 | kergoth | something like that, yeah |
| 08:09.39 | torpor | forgot that screen ran on OSX. Sometimes the Apple'ness of OSX makes me really stupid about the Unix'ness of OSX. |
| 08:10.10 | torpor | bora bora baby! yeah! best sex i ever had ... |
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| 08:15.24 | torpor | is 'ffmpeg' the same as 'mpeg1'? i'm clueless about all these video codecs. |
| 08:21.51 | ljp | ipkgs are going to be tricky |
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| 08:27.01 | ljp | hmm |
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| 08:30.41 | zecke | moin |
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| 08:43.52 | Timelord | Trying to borrow $1750 for 3 months. |
| 08:44.05 | Timelord | Pay the guy back $2000. If he is smart, he will take it. |
| 08:44.22 | Timelord | If it happens, I will be getting a sl-6000l with all the trimmings. |
| 08:44.38 | Timelord | Plus a side order of l33t. |
| 08:44.42 | Timelord | (heh) |
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| 08:45.59 | zecke | hey |
| 08:54.26 | torpor | trying to build gpe-image, i get this: |
| 08:54.42 | torpor | | /home/jay/dev/openembedded/build/tmp/work/gpe-image-1.0-r0/temp/run.do_rootfs.18497: line 152: /home/jay/dev/openembedded/build/tmp/rootfs/etc/passwd: No such file or directory |
| 08:54.49 | torpor | ERROR: Build of gpe-image failed |
| 08:54.56 | torpor | was there something else i should do before trying to build gpe-image? |
| 08:56.07 | pb_ | looks like base-passwd didn't get installed for some reason. |
| 08:56.12 | pb_ | check log.do_rootfs for ERRORs. |
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| 09:11.46 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 09:17.38 | Bernardo | any python guys here? I've tried (and will try again tonight) to edit glibc-package.oe so that the stuff in /usr/share/zoneinfo gets packaged into the timezones ipk(s), but until now have had no luck. |
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