| 00:05.47 | Cwiiis | is it possible to make a cramfs image in OE? |
| 00:05.57 | Cwiiis | for the collie that is |
| 00:08.22 | mickeyl | yes |
| 00:08.32 | mickeyl | it most likely won't run though |
| 00:08.54 | mickeyl | most packages are written under the assumption of a writable rootfs |
| 00:09.03 | mickeyl | you would have to adjust some things to get a cramfs working |
| 00:09.07 | mickeyl | it would be interesting though |
| 00:09.14 | mickeyl | that said... g'night :) |
| 00:11.33 | kergoth | Cwiiis: i've done the read only rootfs thing, but it involves a fair bit of modification at this point |
| 00:11.39 | kergoth | did it with an oe based distro |
| 00:13.17 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Might be nice as an option, if you want to have more software in your rootfs and don't mind about it being read-only |
| 00:14.12 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:14.21 | kergoth | it gives users a measure of comfort |
| 00:14.24 | kergoth | knowing they cant totally fuck it up |
| 00:14.55 | Cwiiis | That and the more software :) |
| 00:15.04 | kergoth | i dont know what you mean. |
| 00:15.17 | kergoth | jffs2 and cramfs are both compressed |
| 00:15.29 | Cwiiis | I thought cramfs had better compression? |
| 00:15.46 | kergoth | not enough to make it a serious reason to switch to it, iirc. |
| 00:15.51 | Cwiiis | ah, ok, fair enough |
| 00:15.55 | kergoth | now i could see switching to squashfs, which is better yet |
| 00:19.49 | Cwiiis | kergoth: How big a space saving would uclibc be over glibc, if it worked? And do you know what issues are left with it at the moment? |
| 00:20.06 | kergoth | its substantial. uclibc is like a tenth the size of glibc. |
| 00:20.10 | kergoth | few megs, probably |
| 00:20.50 | kergoth | uclibc is missing some i18n stuff, and some packages dont build with it due to dependency on glibc specific things, but those should really be fixed anyway |
| 00:24.07 | Cwiiis | sounds like it's worth working on... hehe |
| 00:25.24 | microhard | oe.o is down? |
| 00:27.24 | kergoth | Cwiiis: i use it for most of my root filesystems for my devices. |
| 00:27.28 | treke | appears that way |
| 00:28.38 | microhard | too bad... I was going to work on my QEMU virtual OE build environment... |
| 00:28.50 | treke | you don't need oe.org for that |
| 00:29.08 | treke | You can get the source from the url in the topic |
| 00:29.18 | microhard | I need the wiki documentation.... I didn't complete the install |
| 00:29.32 | treke | just ask. |
| 00:31.05 | microhard | k, is there an auto get function to pull down source as its' needed or do I download everything in the http://treke.net/oe/source/ to /stuff/sources/ |
| 00:31.08 | microhard | ? |
| 00:31.26 | kergoth | oe downloads what it needs when it needs it |
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| 00:38.37 | microhard | TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibc" -- OE is uclibc based right? |
| 00:38.52 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:38.55 | kergoth | OE is a build tool. |
| 00:39.02 | kergoth | what c library you choose to build for is your business. |
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| 00:40.36 | microhard | uclibc is a light c-lib, which is used in OZ? |
| 00:40.59 | kergoth | no OZ has ever released with uclibc |
| 00:41.23 | kergoth | a future version may. |
| 00:41.51 | microhard | I don't want to be the first so... I'll use the other one then... :) |
| 00:42.21 | kergoth | i use uclibc in all the root filesystems i build for my non-zaurus devices. |
| 00:42.23 | kergoth | works well |
| 00:45.11 | Cwiiis | hmm - will try to build a uclibc gpe-image |
| 00:53.46 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Do I need to rename all the binaries in the external gcc 2.95 tool-chain for the OZ kernel? |
| 00:53.50 | Cwiiis | (to use uclibc I mean) |
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| 00:56.46 | kergoth | Cwiiis: most likely. |
| 00:56.53 | kergoth | Cwiiis: well, just the symlinks you already had. |
| 00:56.59 | kergoth | Cwiiis: those are all that get directly called anyway |
| 00:57.08 | kergoth | the ones with the versioned postfix |
| 01:06.21 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Would I want uclibc or uclibc-snapshot to provide uclibc? (or rather, which would I be likely to want, given that I'm trying to build a gpe-image) |
| 01:06.39 | kergoth | depends on whether you want a build from cvs or a release. |
| 01:06.51 | kergoth | i do know that binutils 2.15 doesnt work with uclibc for ARM |
| 01:07.11 | kergoth | so you'll want PREFERRED_VERSION_binutils-cross = "2.14.90.0.6" |
| 01:07.17 | kergoth | i'm currently using the snapshot, so... |
| 01:07.20 | kergoth | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-initial:uclibc-snapshot-initial" |
| 01:07.23 | kergoth | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc:uclibc-snapshot" |
| 01:07.26 | kergoth | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libc:uclibc-snapshot" |
| 01:07.48 | kergoth | put those 4 lines in your local.conf, set TARGET_OS as appropriate, and you should get a usable uclibc system for arm |
| 01:11.13 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Thanks :) |
| 01:12.43 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Do you think future releases of OpenZaurus will be based on uclibc? At the moment there's just 848k spare (using soft-float, gcc 3.4.1 and glibc) in gpe-image, just thinking of whether I should be thinking of how big the image ends up with glibc or uclibc |
| 01:13.27 | joshin1 | There's something very bizarre about patching other patches... |
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| 01:15.24 | microhard | do I do a "oemake world" to build an image? |
| 01:15.25 | kergoth | Cwiiis: i'd certainly be willing to do so, if it meets our needs |
| 01:15.32 | kergoth | no. world builds every package oe can build |
| 01:15.39 | kergoth | which is almost certainly a hell of a lot more packages than you want |
| 01:15.42 | kergoth | ls packages/meta/ |
| 01:15.53 | kergoth | you probably want gpe-image, opie-image, bootstrap-image, or similar |
| 01:15.57 | microhard | o |
| 01:16.01 | microhard | got it... |
| 01:16.16 | microhard | looks like oe.o is back up... back to the wiki |
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| 01:30.26 | microhard | does it need to parse all 1200 .oe files each time you run an oemake? |
| 01:31.03 | treke | it caches the results |
| 01:31.12 | treke | but yes, it needs to parse all of the oe's |
| 01:32.27 | joshin1 | How should I best pass a new variable I added to a package via a patch? I replaced some hard paths (/usr/bin/perl) with ${HOSTPERL} but adding 'HOSTPERL="path_to_native-perl"' to the oe file doesn't seem to be working. |
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| 01:35.25 | Cwiiis | kergoth: uclibc-snapshot-initial fails trying to get kernel-headers-2.4.21 - Looking at the mirrors it tries, I'm guessing it needs kernel-headers-2.4.25 - Is that an error in the oe file or something wrong with my conf? |
| 01:39.42 | kergoth | works jsut fine here |
| 01:39.48 | kergoth | at least, it did |
| 01:39.58 | kergoth | but i havent wiped my sources in a while :) |
| 01:41.48 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Found them on google.. I think that needs updating though, or the sources list needs updating or whatever |
| 01:42.16 | Cwiiis | kergoth: Ah, gcc 3.4 doesn't build with uclibc, does it? |
| 01:42.19 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:42.25 | kergoth | 3.4.1 works jsut fine. |
| 01:42.30 | kergoth | i built it .. 3 minutes ago |
| 01:42.40 | Cwiiis | oh, ok - nevermind then, must've dreamt that :) |
| 01:42.46 | kergoth | it didnt before. |
| 01:42.51 | kergoth | mjn3 fixed it a week or two ago |
| 01:42.57 | Cwiiis | ah, good stuff |
| 01:44.31 | microhard | ack... /home/oe/sources/patcher-20040521.tar.bz2 got corrupted... |
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| 01:47.05 | kergoth | microhard: rm -rf it then. along with the .md5. |
| 01:47.40 | Cwiiis | kergoth: I've downloaded the file that it wants, but it keeps failing trying to truncate the existing file and continue... I tried cleaning the package, but no change... any ideas? |
| 01:47.50 | kergoth | remove the sources. |
| 01:48.00 | microhard | kk ... thanks |
| 01:48.01 | kergoth | or manually create the .md5 |
| 01:48.05 | kergoth | md5sum filename > filename.md5 |
| 01:48.10 | Cwiiis | ah, ok |
| 01:48.12 | Cwiiis | thanks |
| 01:48.14 | kergoth | oe uses that to indicate completion |
| 01:48.14 | kergoth | np |
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| 01:49.19 | microhard | I'm setting this up under QEMU (so I can post it later), QEMU's NIC emulation is a bit flaky and it foobars files it downloads every now and then... |
| 01:50.27 | kergoth | ah |
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| 01:55.03 | microhard | ERROR: package patcher-native-20040521-r0: task do_populate_staging failed |
| 01:55.08 | microhard | hmm... |
| 01:55.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:55.27 | kergoth | it calls 'install'. do you have that? |
| 01:57.05 | microhard | install (coreutils) 5.2.1 |
| 01:57.19 | kergoth | read the log |
| 01:57.24 | CIA-2 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2468.1.2 10packages/conf/omap1610h2.conf: Add initial MACHINE .conf for an H2 development board with an OMAP1610 processor. |
| 01:57.26 | CIA-2 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.2468.1.1 10packages/conf/tune-arm926ejs.conf: Add tune-arm926ejs.conf, to be used by a few of the omap MACHINEs I'm adding. |
| 01:57.50 | Cwiiis | kergoth: uclibc-snapshot-initial fails for me in do_populate_staging with "/bin/sh: arm-linux-uclibc-gcc: command not found" - Any ideas why it's even trying to run that and/or what I should do about it? |
| 01:57.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:58.02 | kergoth | gcc-cross-initial supplies that. |
| 01:58.16 | kergoth | but it doesnt happen until after uclibc-snapshot-initial |
| 01:58.23 | kergoth | mine has messages about that, but doesnt fail. |
| 01:59.48 | Cwiiis | "The file /home/chris/oe/tmp//work/uclibc-snapshot-initial-20040731-r0/linux/Makefile is missing!" - ah, perhaps that's the real error? :/ |
| 02:00.01 | kergoth | harmless too |
| 02:00.06 | Cwiiis | oh, ok |
| 02:00.18 | Cwiiis | that's the last message in the log.. |
| 02:00.35 | Cwiiis | Well, "make: *** [headers] Error 1" is the last message, that's the message before it |
| 02:00.40 | kergoth | ah, you're right, that is the failure |
| 02:00.43 | kergoth | mine doesnt have that one |
| 02:00.49 | kergoth | and i have a Makefile in there. |
| 02:01.00 | Cwiiis | I'm guessing that's the kernel-headers that I got... |
| 02:01.31 | kergoth | i'd say so |
| 02:01.47 | kergoth | jeeze, i have way too many local changes i havent pushed anywhere |
| 02:19.04 | Cwiiis | kergoth: I don't suppose you could possibly send me your kernel-headers please? I'm not having any joy... |
| 02:20.25 | kergoth | too late, already wiped my sources to look into the problem myself |
| 02:20.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:20.40 | Cwiiis | hehe, that's good enough for me :) Thanks |
| 02:22.16 | CIA-2 | 03pb 07 * r1.2472 10packages/busybox/ (17 files in 2 dirs): roll busybox back to 1.00-rc1 due to modprobe and other breakage in rc2 |
| 02:22.23 | CIA-2 | 03pb 07 * r1.2471 10packages/balsa/ (balsa-2.0.17/desktop-file-fix.patch balsa_2.0.17.oe): apply patch from Wookey to fix .desktop file |
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| 02:39.47 | kergoth | cache hit 263827 |
| 02:39.47 | kergoth | cache miss 469780 |
| 02:39.49 | kergoth | blech |
| 02:39.57 | kergoth | i need a bigger ccache |
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| 02:47.21 | treke | easy to fix :p |
| 02:47.31 | treke | fsck |
| 02:47.35 | treke | ccache -s not ccache -c |
| 02:47.41 | Cwiiis[away] | Time for sleep... |
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