| 00:03.34 | pb_ | sounds ominous |
| 00:04.09 | kergoth | trying to find a way to increase the efficiency of my development environment |
| 00:04.17 | kergoth | wasting too much time on environmental crap |
| 00:04.34 | pb_ | ah |
| 00:04.55 | pb_ | later |
| 00:04.56 | kergoth | night |
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| 00:07.47 | bug1 | in my local.conf i have INHERIT="package_tar package_ipkg" should that make it create ipkg's ? |
| 00:08.04 | kergoth | no, it should be package_ipk |
| 00:08.07 | kergoth | then yet |
| 00:08.34 | bug1 | DUOH ! |
| 00:08.38 | gb2 | heh |
| 00:10.33 | kergoth | anyone here good with rsync? |
| 00:11.28 | bug1 | ive used it a few times, not for a while though |
| 00:12.17 | kergoth | i want to do remote operations over ssh, but i need it to run some setup commands on the remote box before starting the rsync on that end |
| 00:12.28 | kergoth | trying to figure out how to work that |
| 00:14.45 | bug1 | you are trying tunnel the rsync data through ssh, or just starting the remote rsync server via ssh |
| 00:15.10 | kergoth | tunnel the rsync data over ssh, but i want to do it manually so i can do the setup |
| 00:15.14 | kergoth | ah, here we are |
| 00:15.20 | gb2 | kergoth: -e ssh --rsync-path=./rsync-wrapper |
| 00:15.37 | kergoth | ah, thatd work |
| 00:15.47 | kergoth | rsync --server --sender -vlogDtprz . /path |
| 00:15.58 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 00:16.00 | gb2 | you can do that, and just pass args on |
| 00:16.06 | kergoth | nod |
| 00:16.07 | kergoth | thanks |
| 00:18.10 | kergoth | gb2: i wish there was a simple rsync option to maek teh client talk out stdout, and the server talk in stdin, so i could do my own setup thing |
| 00:18.23 | kergoth | --server --sender is how to do the remote end.. |
| 00:18.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:18.37 | kergoth | ah well |
| 00:23.55 | gb2 | kergoth: well. it needs to do output and input |
| 00:25.50 | kergoth | ah, point taken. would need to talk both ends into communicating via a pipe |
| 00:25.53 | kergoth | i'm not *that* bored |
| 00:26.23 | mjc | fix up the binary driver crap for 2.6 ;) |
| 00:26.30 | gb2 | oh |
| 00:26.32 | gb2 | beautiful |
| 00:26.36 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:26.38 | gb2 | kergoth: from the manpage... |
| 00:26.41 | gb2 | CONNECTING TO AN RSYNC SERVER OVER A REMOTE SHELL PROGRAM |
| 00:26.55 | gb2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.55 | gb2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.03 | gb2 | oh |
| 00:27.03 | gb2 | wait |
| 00:27.08 | gb2 | running vs. connecting |
| 00:27.09 | gb2 | my bad |
| 00:27.19 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:34.04 | cyn | note to cat owners: NOT leaving ribbon out can save you the cost of surgery - which can pay for a brand new Zaurus! |
| 00:37.49 | gb2 | eek |
| 00:37.59 | mjc | uicmoc3 is taking forever to compile.. |
| 00:38.13 | mjc | :p |
| 00:38.28 | kergoth | mjc: yeah, it has to build itself a qt library |
| 00:38.29 | kergoth | hehj |
| 00:39.27 | mjc | oh thats lovely |
| 00:42.28 | kergoth | woo! got rsync doing what i wanted |
| 00:42.44 | bug1 | somehow my bootstrap-image tar.gz doesnt have busybox in it, even though it has an ipkg |
| 00:42.56 | kergoth | bug1: read the image log |
| 00:46.35 | bug1 | how do i update my /arm-bin/ipk/Packages it doenst mention the newer revision of busybox |
| 00:47.53 | kergoth | its generated by the image step in teh image_ipk class, iirc. |
| 00:48.01 | bug1 | if i delete my entier ipkg directory will the packages be automatically recreated without having to recompile ? |
| 00:49.13 | kergoth | read image_ipk |
| 00:49.42 | bug1 | ill soon find out :) |
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| 00:52.14 | bug1 | no, it doesnt recreate the ipk files |
| 00:53.33 | kergoth | blow away teh package_ipk stamps |
| 00:53.49 | kergoth | along with the ipk dir |
| 00:56.57 | kergoth | new cleanup? |
| 00:57.04 | gb2 | same one i've been talking about |
| 00:57.10 | kergoth | ah. cool |
| 00:57.13 | gb2 | eliminate the separate uclibc .oe's |
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| 01:03.00 | mjc | [mjc@dvdburner packages]$ cat /home/mjc/packages/tmp/base/uicmoc3-native-3.3.1-r0/temp/log.do_stage.7644 |
| 01:03.03 | mjc | oe_libinstall: cd lib |
| 01:03.06 | mjc | oe_libinstall: install -d /home/mjc/packages/tmp/staging/i686-linux/lib/ |
| 01:03.08 | mjc | oe_libinstall: install -m 0644 libqt.a /home/mjc/packages/tmp/staging/i686-linux/lib/ |
| 01:03.11 | mjc | oe_libinstall: install -m 0644 libqt.lai /home/mjc/packages/tmp/staging/i686-linux/lib/libqt.la |
| 01:03.13 | ShALLaX | anyone have a kernel for the sl-5500 that doesnt have the double reboot bug |
| 01:03.14 | mjc | install: cannot stat `libqt.lai': No such file or directory |
| 01:03.17 | ShALLaX | or has one already been released? |
| 01:04.04 | kergoth | mjc: is your OE tree up to date as well? |
| 01:04.14 | kergoth | it shouldnt be trying to install a .lai when one doesnt exist |
| 01:05.03 | mjc | should be |
| 01:05.10 | mjc | will double check |
| 01:05.10 | kergoth | make sure |
| 01:05.12 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:05.32 | mjc | yes, it is |
| 01:06.36 | kergoth | »·······dotlai=$libname.lai |
| 01:06.36 | kergoth | »·······if [ -f "$dotlai" -o -n "$libtool" ]; then |
| 01:06.36 | kergoth | »·······»·······__runcmd install -m 0644 $dotlai $destpath/$libname.la |
| 01:06.36 | kergoth | »·······fi |
| 01:06.48 | kergoth | looks fine .. odd |
| 01:07.01 | kergoth | $libtool is only not empty when we found a .la. |
| 01:07.44 | mjc | so theres a .la but no .lai |
| 01:07.56 | kergoth | check :) |
| 01:08.01 | mjc | well it installed the .la fine |
| 01:08.07 | kergoth | ls tmp/base/uicmoc3-native-3.3.1-r0/*/lib/ |
| 01:08.19 | kergoth | hm? |
| 01:08.28 | kergoth | it installs .lai to .la. |
| 01:08.32 | mjc | it installed the .la before it installed the .lai (log says so) |
| 01:08.37 | kergoth | uh? |
| 01:08.39 | kergoth | no, it doesnt. |
| 01:08.42 | kergoth | not according to what you just pasted |
| 01:08.54 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 01:08.57 | mjc | or no, I'm sorry, not seeing straight |
| 01:09.10 | kergoth | heh, np, its a monday |
| 01:09.21 | mjc | also watching gothika |
| 01:09.28 | kergoth | how is that? |
| 01:09.35 | mjc | confusing and scary |
| 01:09.38 | mjc | so far |
| 01:09.49 | kergoth | cool |
| 01:09.52 | mjc | (I'm not usually stumped by plots but this one's fairly... weird) |
| 01:11.35 | mjc | nm it just resolved ;) |
| 01:11.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:12.17 | bug1 | is there supposed to be a modutils-depmod package ? |
| 01:12.26 | kergoth | yes, modutils emits it |
| 01:12.28 | kergoth | among others |
| 01:16.55 | gb2 | hrm |
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| 01:18.32 | gb2 | wonder why the cross compiler is suddenly not using the target assembler |
| 01:19.39 | mjc | it hates you |
| 01:20.19 | gb2 | lots of stuff does |
| 01:21.56 | gb2 | odd. |
| 01:22.39 | bug1 | my depmod is getting installed into modutils rather than modutils-depmod, so the empty modutils-depmod package doesnt exist, which breaks task-bootstrap and the image commands that use it |
| 01:23.21 | gb2 | weird. |
| 01:23.51 | mithro | okay i need bitkeeper help again :) |
| 01:25.08 | mithro | i've managed to to a bk add okay |
| 01:25.22 | mithro | but bk ci -y"<comment>" <file> doesn't seem to work |
| 01:28.31 | gb2 | oh |
| 01:28.32 | gb2 | i bet i know |
| 01:28.44 | gb2 | yep |
| 01:28.45 | gb2 | foo |
| 01:28.51 | gb2 | clean after changing prefix |
| 01:29.01 | gb2 | s/prefix/${TARGET_PREFIX}/ |
| 01:30.45 | mithro | how do i create a diff after i've commited it okay? |
| 01:33.07 | bug1 | aha, removing modutils fixes it... thatll do |
| 01:33.57 | gb2 | gcc seems to invoke: ${sysroot}/${prefix}/${target}/bin/as as the assembler |
| 01:34.08 | gb2 | or more correctly... |
| 01:34.21 | gb2 | i think it adds ${sysroot}/${prefix}/${target}/bin to the path |
| 01:34.26 | gb2 | then invokes as from the path |
| 01:35.14 | bug1 | i dont know bitkeeper |
| 01:35.44 | gb2 | i don't know your answer |
| 01:35.48 | mithro | dang |
| 01:36.04 | mithro | gb2: how do you use bitkeeper? |
| 01:36.21 | bug1 | first you have to send them you bank account details |
| 01:36.37 | bug1 | and the deed to your house ;) |
| 01:37.35 | mithro | ibot: seen kergoth |
| 01:37.38 | ibot | kergoth is currently on #zaurus (7h 30m 6s) #uclibc (7h 30m 6s) #oe (7h 30m 6s) #handhelds.org (7h 30m 6s) #ol (7h 30m 6s) #openzaurus (7h 30m 6s) #tacobeam (7h 30m 6s). Has said a total of 339 messages. Is idling for 20m 58s |
| 01:38.05 | gb2 | mithro: i can check stuff in |
| 01:38.26 | gb2 | and i can diff my modified sandbox with the checked in version |
| 01:38.28 | gb2 | that's about it |
| 01:38.32 | gb2 | mjc: from the beginning? |
| 01:38.54 | mjc | SG-1 movie or somethign |
| 01:38.57 | mjc | something |
| 01:39.21 | mjc | uicmoc3 is sitll going for the 2nd time |
| 01:39.22 | mjc | :/ |
| 01:39.53 | gb2 | mjc: scifi runs marathons of it on mondays |
| 01:40.04 | mjc | gb2: this is the movie, not the tv show I think |
| 01:40.08 | mjc | yeah, looks like a movie to me |
| 01:40.10 | gb2 | there've been 7 seasons of about 22episodes each |
| 01:40.15 | gb2 | some 2 parters |
| 01:40.37 | mjc | I'm not watching the tv show :P |
| 01:40.47 | gb2 | mjc: the stargate movie? |
| 01:40.50 | mjc | yes |
| 01:40.53 | gb2 | with kurt russell |
| 01:40.57 | mjc | stargate sg-1 directors cut |
| 01:40.58 | gb2 | good film |
| 01:41.00 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 01:41.03 | gb2 | it's not sg-1 |
| 01:41.08 | gb2 | sg-1 is the tv show |
| 01:41.11 | mjc | shrug, thats what I have written on the disc |
| 01:41.15 | mjc | I guess I'm wrong then ;) |
| 01:41.40 | mjc | I have all of CSI, CSI:Miami, 24, scrubs, kngdom hospital, ER, simpsons, friends... |
| 01:41.54 | mjc | working on alias currently |
| 01:41.57 | mithro | on DVD or DivX? :) |
| 01:43.27 | mjc | xvid |
| 01:43.27 | gb2 | mjc: bittorrenting? |
| 01:43.31 | mjc | gb2: course |
| 01:44.19 | gb2 | mjc: 2 friends of mine have gotten cease and desist orders from the MPAA for bittorrenting |
| 01:44.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:44.40 | mjc | gb2: I've gotten over 100 of them, they've gone ignored. |
| 01:44.49 | mjc | gb2: none of them ever have specific software or movies lsited |
| 01:44.50 | mjc | listed |
| 01:45.07 | gb2 | mjc: on company letterhead from your ISP? |
| 01:45.35 | kergoth | i havent gotten any of those yet. the cable internet was cut off for consuming my apartment complex's upstream and making everybody lag, but thats about it |
| 01:45.44 | gb2 | one got it from speakeasy, and one from comcast |
| 01:46.16 | mjc | gb2: no, on mpaa letterhead |
| 01:46.27 | mjc | I'm on comcast though |
| 01:46.33 | gb2 | mjc: i'd be more afraid of one from my ISP |
| 01:46.39 | mithro | kergoth: i got as far as the bk ci stuff |
| 01:46.57 | kergoth | mithro: all the changes are checked in with ci? |
| 01:47.01 | mjc | gb2: I would also, but my isp at school (where Iget most letters)is AT&T... who wouldn't move a pinky toe to the mpaa |
| 01:47.02 | mithro | yeah |
| 01:47.03 | kergoth | then just run bk commit to create a changeset |
| 01:47.22 | mithro | would citool do that for me? |
| 01:47.26 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:47.29 | kergoth | citool can do ci's as well |
| 01:47.38 | kergoth | i dont use it myself, but it does do the job |
| 01:47.49 | mithro | i seem to have a changeset |
| 01:47.51 | mjc | I use citool |
| 01:48.22 | kergoth | then run bk changes, take note of the cset # |
| 01:48.29 | kergoth | run bk export -tpatch -r# > mypatch |
| 01:48.37 | kergoth | then send the patch to oe@handhelds.org (you need to be subscribed) |
| 01:49.10 | mithro | ahh! thats what i couldn't find |
| 01:49.12 | mithro | export |
| 01:49.24 | mithro | don't you need a -u or something in there? |
| 01:49.41 | mithro | o a -d u for unified diff? |
| 01:49.42 | kergoth | -du for unified |
| 01:49.44 | kergoth | yes |
| 01:49.55 | kergoth | bk help [cmd] adn bk helptool [cmd] are your frends |
| 01:49.55 | bug1 | damnit, i was using the wrong version of modutils |
| 01:49.59 | kergoth | friends even |
| 01:51.00 | mithro | yeah i couldn't figure out what the command was |
| 01:51.28 | kergoth | diffs is for looking at local changes that havent yet been checked in |
| 01:51.42 | kergoth | or for diffing two existing versions of something |
| 01:52.05 | kergoth | diffs operates on individual files and their deltas |
| 01:52.13 | kergoth | where export operates on repositories and changesets |
| 01:52.18 | mithro | dang this is bad |
| 01:52.22 | mithro | end_request: I/O error, dev 03:45 (hdb), sector 53131920 |
| 01:52.22 | mithro | hdb: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 01:52.22 | mithro | hdb: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=94226358, high=5, low=10340278, sector=53131928 |
| 01:52.22 | mithro | end_request: I/O error, dev 03:45 (hdb), sector 53131928 |
| 01:52.27 | kergoth | heh, ouch |
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| 01:52.59 | mithro | luckly i have raid and it's marked that as a failed disk |
| 01:53.11 | mithro | mdadm even mailed me about it |
| 01:58.46 | mithro | mdadm rocks |
| 02:03.23 | gb2 | i wish our cvs engine let us keep a sandbox around |
| 02:03.28 | gb2 | to run cvs update in |
| 02:06.02 | mithro | kergoth: what would cause this? |
| 02:06.14 | mithro | | install: cannot stat `libSDLmain.a': No such file or directory |
| 02:06.23 | mithro | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.24 | mithro | -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 4226 2004-05-11 04:13 /opt/arm/openembedded/tmp.boxer/staging/arm-linux/lib/libSDLmain.a |
| 02:09.55 | mithro | ahh |
| 02:10.07 | mithro | it appears that a libSDLmain.a can't be found in the src/main/.libs |
| 02:10.11 | mithro | only in src/main |
| 02:10.14 | mithro | anyway i have to run |
| 02:10.16 | mithro | bblr |
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| 02:32.08 | kergoth | gb2: zwelch was asking for something like that yesterday, to cut down on the traffic for subsequent cvs updates. unfortunately trying to do something like that has all sorts of implications |
| 02:44.43 | gb2 | cool. my tests seem to be passing |
| 02:51.21 | kergoth | nice |
| 02:59.33 | bug1 | meta/meta-gpe.oe has the line 'PACKAGES = gpe gpe-task-base gpe-task-utils gpe-task-pim' but 'oemake gpe' fails as it doesnt know what gpe is |
| 03:00.30 | bug1 | which means gpe-image doesnt have any gpe-apps in it |
| 03:01.14 | kergoth | hm? |
| 03:01.19 | kergoth | PACKAGES is what packages you *create* |
| 03:01.24 | kergoth | not depend on |
| 03:01.37 | kergoth | meta-gpe creates a gpe package, a gpe-task-base package, etc |
| 03:02.47 | bug1 | 'oemake meta-gpe' doesnt create tarball's though |
| 03:03.05 | kergoth | then its broken. |
| 03:03.30 | kergoth | according to that line, its supposed to |
| 03:04.03 | bug1 | isnt meta-gpe supposed to be like task-bootstrap ? |
| 03:04.17 | kergoth | yes, that doesnt mean it cant emit a virtual package for runtime too |
| 03:04.39 | kergoth | it should emit gpe, etc packages that have no content, but that depend on the others. |
| 03:04.52 | kergoth | for people installing from remote feeds and the like |
| 03:05.01 | bug1 | hmm,. task-bootstrap does create a tarball |
| 03:05.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:05.24 | gb2 | heh, bk gets slow if you accidently bk mv a dir |
| 03:05.59 | kergoth | yeah, mvdir takes a while. dunno whats up with that, probably runs a check pass to make sure things stay sane |
| 03:06.05 | gb2 | heh |
| 03:07.30 | kergoth | one of these days i should test our dependency chains. for every single .oe, wipe tmp and oemake it. make sure we have no build ordering failures |
| 03:08.12 | bug1 | meta-gpe has RDEPENDS_gpe, but no DEPENDS_gpe, maybe thats the problem |
| 03:08.20 | kergoth | hm? |
| 03:08.24 | kergoth | gpe is a runtime package |
| 03:08.30 | kergoth | why a runtime package care about build dependencies |
| 03:08.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:08.35 | kergoth | s/why a/why would a/ |
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| 03:09.15 | scribe | Hey guys, sorry to be a moron again. I always have to get help setting up a compile env. Any help would be appreciated. I'm getting: |
| 03:09.19 | scribe | /opt/OpieSdk/opie/x86/sdk/include/qpe/qpeapplication.h:237: error: `qwsDisplay' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 03:09.38 | kergoth | scribe: fixed. bk pull, clean that package and qmake-native and try again. |
| 03:09.55 | kergoth | err, opie sdk? |
| 03:10.01 | kergoth | thats way off topic. |
| 03:10.01 | bug1 | well, i dont know why its broken then |
| 03:10.03 | kergoth | #opie |
| 03:10.05 | scribe | kergoth: :) |
| 03:10.05 | scribe | sorry |
| 03:10.14 | scribe | yeah, they don't answer |
| 03:10.19 | kergoth | doesnt make it on topic here |
| 03:10.36 | scribe | sorry |
| 03:10.37 | kergoth | qwsDisplay not declared generally means you didnt defined QWS (-DQWS) on the copmile line. |
| 03:10.45 | kergoth | which is indicative of using the wrong tmake or qmake template |
| 03:10.52 | gb2 | cool. it's off topic if i break something ;) |
| 03:11.14 | scribe | kergoth: thanks. I'll try to fix it. Thanks for the grace. |
| 03:11.16 | kergoth | its off topic if you break something outside of oe |
| 03:11.19 | kergoth | like, say, opie |
| 03:11.20 | kergoth | np |
| 03:11.49 | kergoth | haw, i've been called many things, but having grace isnt one of them |
| 03:11.56 | gb2 | i guess his build area is outside of OE |
| 03:12.03 | kergoth | yeah, he's using the opie sdk |
| 03:13.15 | scribe | :) well, don't make it habbit then :) |
| 03:13.28 | scribe | kergoth: hey didn't you get a job in TX working on embedded kernel stuff? |
| 03:13.34 | kergoth | nod |
| 03:13.34 | scribe | or was that someone else |
| 03:13.36 | kergoth | thats me |
| 03:13.40 | scribe | very cool. |
| 03:13.51 | kergoth | 2.6 kernel development for ti's omap chips |
| 03:14.00 | kergoth | (arm core + dsp core in one processor) |
| 03:14.17 | scribe | i just applied for a contract position doing embedded app stuff here in phx and got an update that I'm high on the candidate list. |
| 03:14.27 | kergoth | nice |
| 03:14.32 | kergoth | good luck |
| 03:14.33 | scribe | yeah, I'm really excited about it. |
| 03:14.52 | scribe | it's been a fun hobbie, but I'd love to get paid to stay current |
| 03:15.53 | scribe | been doing java in the commercial world for the last 6 year (c++ for about 10 before that), and it's a bummer to switch languages when I go home each night |
| 03:19.15 | scribe | sweet, DEFINES += QWS in my _x86.pro file fixed the problem. Thanks again! Have an awesome night! |
| 03:19.31 | kergoth | not a problem. ttyl. |
| 03:19.38 | gb2 | crap, we helped someone off topic. now they'll come back ;) |
| 03:19.49 | kergoth | oops |
| 03:19.54 | kergoth | next time i do that, smack me |
| 03:20.01 | scribe | ha! :) |
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| 03:27.47 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.48 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.48 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.16 | kergoth | 13:55 < canard> mjn3: come on, don't be too harsh with sendmail. It is an excellent shell server, they just |
| 03:29.19 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.23 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:29.24 | kergoth | bored |
| 03:32.45 | gb2 | heh |
| 03:33.10 | gb2 | god i hate testing that glibc builds |
| 03:33.18 | kergoth | so time consuming |
| 03:43.04 | gb2 | NOTE: package gcc-cross-kernel-3.3.3-r0: task do_configure started |
| 03:46.17 | gb2 | score. |
| 03:47.33 | W8TVI | hmmm... if I want this to be ready by saturday, I guess I'll have to reflash it |
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| 03:55.38 | gb2 | 2 more tests |
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| 04:14.46 | W8TVI | cool... some one is porting 2.6 for the zaurus? :) |
| 04:15.16 | kergoth | heh, not on the openzaurus-devel lists? |
| 04:15.19 | kergoth | s/lists/list/ |
| 04:17.00 | W8TVI | no. I though I was :) |
| 04:18.58 | gb2 | 1795824 tmp.glibc-full |
| 04:18.59 | gb2 | 558136 tmp.glibc-kernonly |
| 04:18.59 | gb2 | 1448296 tmp.uclibc-full |
| 04:18.59 | gb2 | 463864 tmp.uclibc-kernonly |
| 04:19.01 | gb2 | toolchain builds |
| 04:19.08 | gb2 | kernonly means gcc-cross-kernel |
| 04:19.20 | gb2 | all worked |
| 04:19.30 | kergoth | nice |
| 04:19.30 | W8TVI | it worked? |
| 04:19.33 | gb2 | yeah |
| 04:19.40 | W8TVI | you sure you did it right? :) |
| 04:19.52 | gb2 | yeah. |
| 04:19.56 | gb2 | it was actually very simple |
| 04:22.36 | gb2 | one more test build |
| 04:22.58 | gb2 | then i'll check it in and push it this is a lot cleaner |
| 04:29.14 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 04:29.17 | gb2 | it's running gcc |
| 04:29.23 | gb2 | but my ccache isn't going up |
| 04:29.40 | gb2 | not even the missed count |
| 04:31.05 | gb2 | I wonder if the counter is just stuck |
| 04:33.02 | W8TVI | YES! |
| 04:33.09 | W8TVI | XMMS-E works! |
| 04:33.21 | W8TVI | (well its gui comes up) |
| 04:33.38 | gb2 | xmms-e? |
| 04:34.06 | W8TVI | our LUG is having an install fest this saturday, and one of they guys is doing an icecast stream |
| 04:34.15 | W8TVI | we are going to listen to it on my zaurus |
| 04:34.22 | gb2 | neat |
| 04:34.23 | W8TVI | xmms embedded |
| 04:34.44 | gb2 | how does it look? |
| 04:34.52 | W8TVI | ok |
| 04:35.09 | kergoth | damnit |
| 04:35.32 | kergoth | thinkgeek needs to stop making me spend money on gadgets and caffeine |
| 04:35.33 | kergoth | bastards |
| 04:35.40 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:35.43 | gb2 | what'd you click on now? |
| 04:35.47 | W8TVI | heh |
| 04:36.13 | W8TVI | kergoth: I want to get an LED scrolling badge |
| 04:36.28 | kergoth | mints, bawls, red swingline stapler, "go away or i'll replace you with a very small shell script" sticker, "complete and utter bullshit" stamp |
| 04:36.31 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 04:36.41 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:37.05 | kergoth | was gonna grab the set of the BOFH books, but they're out of stock |
| 04:37.26 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:37.40 | W8TVI | dang it... xmms-e isn't outputing to the buzzer when I unplug the headphones :( |
| 04:38.04 | treke|laptop | What was your username again? |
| 04:38.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:38.27 | treke|laptop | *clickety* *clickety* |
| 04:38.36 | kergoth | classic |
| 04:39.41 | gb2 | i wonder if i'm ever going to get a tracking number from this place |
| 04:40.07 | gb2 | they shipped furniture to me, but didn't list my apartment number on the shipment |
| 04:40.08 | gb2 | :| |
| 04:40.16 | kergoth | ugh |
| 04:40.39 | gb2 | i'm going to add a label with my name next to the buzzer downstairs |
| 04:41.10 | treke|laptop | like the delivery guy is even going to look |
| 04:41.11 | gb2 | crap |
| 04:41.13 | gb2 | filled up /home |
| 04:41.26 | gb2 | hate that |
| 04:41.27 | gb2 | heh |
| 04:43.51 | CIA-5 | 03gbritton 07 * r1.1526 10packages/ (73 files in 8 dirs): uclibc vs. glibc cleanup (eliminate distinct uclibc packages) |
| 04:43.54 | gb2 | yay |
| 04:46.30 | CIA-5 | 03gbritton 07 * r1.1527 10packages/conf/local.conf.sample: update local.conf sample to nuke unneccsary prefprov example |
| 04:48.25 | W8TVI | hmmm |
| 04:48.26 | W8TVI | ./httpd: error while loading shared libraries: libdb.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 04:49.00 | CIA-5 | 03gbritton 07 * r1.608 10oe/conf/ (familiar.conf opensimpad.conf openzaurus.conf): remore unnecessary prefprov of libc |
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| 04:49.37 | gb2 | pref providers of libc should never really be necessary again. |
| 04:51.20 | W8TVI | thats nice... I have libc6 installed but they didn't include |
| 04:51.20 | W8TVI | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.24 | W8TVI | isn't it nice when some one breaks thing for the hell of it? |
| 04:54.32 | kergoth | gb2: nice work |
| 05:05.15 | W8TVI | grrr |
| 05:05.29 | W8TVI | no one is watching the #openzaurus window |
| 05:12.48 | treke|laptop | uhm. nasty |
| 05:12.58 | treke|laptop | it looks like doxygen includes the qt source inside of it |
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| 05:14.12 | treke|laptop | probably because of the licensing problems with qt |
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| 06:07.40 | mjc | hmm |
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| 06:12.10 | mjc | treke.net didn't resolve..hmm |
| 06:12.44 | mjc | stupid nscd |
| 06:54.03 | treke|laptop | not resolving? |
| 06:54.05 | treke|laptop | odd |
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| 07:44.44 | c0ldlogic | I kind of hate to re post of what I said in #openzaurus but just in case. |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | Alright I checked the FAQ on openzaurus.org but I have just one quick question. |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | <c0ldlogic> also I think windows kind of screwed with me because it hides extensions by default. |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | <c0ldlogic> but when I name the my kernel to just "zImage" |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | <c0ldlogic> in windows it still says it is a "BIN" and when I reboot my Zaurus it just hangs at the Sharp logo. |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | * George has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection) |
| 07:44.53 | c0ldlogic | <c0ldlogic> so in windows if you rename the to "zImage" it is really still "zImage.bin", correct? |
| 07:44.55 | c0ldlogic | <c0ldlogic> which is why my kernel isn't loading. |
| 07:45.18 | c0ldlogic | please someone let me know that is the problem and I'll be greatful thanks. |
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| 08:16.51 | proti | Morning everyone. |
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| 08:37.53 | Hrw | hi |
| 08:39.22 | calud | hi |
| 08:41.43 | Hrw | there was so many changes during night that I think that building new toolchain is a must... |
| 08:45.52 | calud | i just start to work with oe yesterday and still couldn't compile a singlwe package yet :P, still downloading source packages etc :) |
| 08:46.47 | calud | so do we need do something else instead "bk pull" for new toolchain? |
| 08:46.59 | Hrw | calud: oemake gcc-cross |
| 08:47.46 | Hrw | calud: bk pull oe, bk pull packages, edit PKGDIR/conf/local.conf, oemake gcc-cross |
| 08:48.10 | Hrw | I'm usually starting with "oemake libtool-cross libtool-native" ;) |
| 08:51.08 | calud | thanks, I hope I will be compiling packages soon with oe :), I used to do it with cross-compilation environment, it was easier but oe seems to be much more tidy and reliable. |
| 08:51.51 | Hrw | calud: OE looks hard at the beginning |
| 08:52.28 | Hrw | calud: one month ago I have big problems with getting it to work. now I commit changes... |
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| 08:54.49 | calud | i think there are not enough documantation, or I am not satified :), but irc and mailing list may be more helpful |
| 08:55.11 | Hrw | calud: there is nearly zero od docs ;( |
| 08:55.15 | Hrw | s/od/of |
| 08:57.31 | calud | so we need to stick mailing list I guess :) |
| 09:00.04 | Hrw | OE wiki is a good place to start too |
| 09:00.19 | calud | well I think first I am going to try compiling some packages which I already port for zaurus, then if I succeed I may try to contribute the distro... now it's fuzzy :) |
| 09:00.21 | Hrw | calud: for which platform you will use OE? |
| 09:00.51 | calud | yes, I got a good starting point from the wiki... |
| 09:01.46 | Hrw | I work on getting it boot and work on collie (zaurus sl5x00) |
| 09:03.15 | calud | is there a working distro for sl-5600? or do I have to compile myself? |
| 09:03.44 | calud | now I'm running 3.3.6-pre1 on my sl-5600 |
| 09:04.09 | Hrw | can you send mi /usr/lib/ipkg/status to zaurus@hrw.one.pl? |
| 09:04.36 | calud | from the Z right? |
| 09:04.45 | Hrw | yep |
| 09:09.03 | Hrw | hmm.. I found that all info from it is already in conf ;) |
| 09:09.31 | Hrw | calud: set MACHINE="poodle" and DISTRO="openzaurus" in PKGDIR/conf/local.conf |
| 09:09.38 | Hrw | calud: then "oemake bootstrap-image" |
| 09:10.02 | calud | well, I just make ipkg upgrade, adding new opie packages src into /etc/ipkg.conf so there are many packages installed which I don't intend to use :), just for experiment... |
| 09:10.40 | calud | now I need to charge the Z, i think the wifi card drained the battery |
| 09:10.58 | Hrw | I was thinking about wifi to my Z |
| 09:11.19 | Hrw | but 1st I build some usb sync cables so I can use keyboard and usbnet |
| 09:12.35 | calud | since I buy Z with wifi card, I never try to use usbnet... Z is connected to the wlan in my office. |
| 09:13.01 | Hrw | I don't have wlan at work or at home |
| 09:13.29 | Hrw | but wifi CF card to Z, wifi usb stick should be <100Euro |
| 09:14.39 | calud | warwalking is fun :P |
| 09:15.22 | Hrw | maybe - but sl5500 has only 900mAh battery |
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| 09:25.23 | reenoo_ | hey Hrw |
| 09:25.50 | calud | my Z just boot... Is there an issue with cf cards or wifi cf cards? I noticed that although I leave my Z suspended, without ejecting wifi card, or disabling network, it drains battery |
| 09:26.16 | Hrw | calud: maybe wifi card is not suspended |
| 09:26.47 | Hrw | I have only memory cards |
| 09:26.57 | calud | well its led gets off when I suspend Z, but maybe it still consumes |
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| 09:28.03 | calud | btw is there a patch or new package for date issue? it keeps resetting the date on reboot |
| 09:28.25 | Hrw | resetting to 2003? |
| 09:28.43 | Hrw | or bad timezone? |
| 09:29.44 | calud | no it resets to 1970 |
| 09:29.58 | Hrw | my collie resets to 2003 or bad timezone |
| 09:44.29 | Hrw | new toolchain compiled |
| 09:47.00 | calud | what are the differences? |
| 09:47.18 | Hrw | this tiime I used glibc_cvs |
| 09:58.18 | calud | I want to try those usb host cf cards, it really seems to extend usage areas |
| 09:59.07 | Hrw | but which one will work with Z? |
| 10:01.35 | calud | http://paipai.org/~humorum/english/zaurus/cfu1-driver.html |
| 10:04.32 | calud | still not mature enough but promising :) |
| 10:09.25 | Hrw | NOTE: package bootstrap-image: build completed |
| 10:09.27 | Hrw | nice ;) |
| 10:09.51 | Hrw | but don't work |
| 10:10.02 | calud | didn't boot? |
| 10:11.08 | Hrw | pcmcia-cs needs psmisc for "fuser" |
| 10:11.27 | Hrw | I will test fuser patch for busybox to get rid of this dependency |
| 10:11.57 | calud | mine seems doing well : NOTE: import patch '/home/oe/devel/packages/glibc/glibc-cvs/arm-machine-gmon.patch' as 'arm-machine-gmon.patch' |
| 10:12.18 | Hrw | glibc compile needs time |
| 10:12.26 | Hrw | calud: you installed "ccache"? |
| 10:12.37 | calud | yes |
| 10:13.21 | Hrw | so it can take less time ;) |
| 10:13.41 | calud | rpm -qv ccache |
| 10:13.43 | calud | ccache-2.3-0.rhfc1.dag |
| 10:14.01 | proti | Wow, opie-image compiled straight. Doing meta-opie now. |
| 10:20.41 | calud | maybe because I am too new to the oe environment but I feel a little strange since it does all the things? do I have an option to change for example ./configure parameters? |
| 10:21.28 | proti | calud: Yes, look at EXTRA options in oe . |
| 10:22.56 | calud | ok thanks |
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| 10:28.12 | Hrw|afk | hej luzik |
| 10:28.30 | luzik | Hrw: czesc |
| 10:28.35 | luzik | Hrw: hey :) |
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| 10:28.52 | luzik | look at http://luzik.ds.pg.gda.pl/lord_of_the_net.mpeg |
| 10:29.03 | Hrw | luzik: how big is it? |
| 10:29.38 | luzik | Hrw: 36M /home/services/httpd/html/lord_of_the_net.mpeg |
| 10:30.15 | luzik | but i think that is the best think i saw in this year :) |
| 10:31.34 | Hrw | I'll get a look at it later |
| 10:35.22 | Hrw | I like busybox more and more ;) |
| 10:37.39 | luzik | small and nice .. in pld we use it for i while |
| 10:38.35 | Hrw | luzik: which linux distro doesn;t use it in boot-discs? :) |
| 10:41.01 | proti | Ah, at last one failure. uicmoc3-native linux-oe-g++ not supported. I think this is a known breakage. |
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| 10:46.22 | Twiun | hi guys |
| 10:46.34 | calud | hi |
| 10:52.05 | proti | hi |
| 10:54.33 | proti | does anybody know about busybox missing from opie-image ? |
| 10:55.17 | Hrw|work | proti: ??? |
| 10:56.06 | proti | Hrw|work: oemake opie-image produce an image with no /bin |
| 10:57.21 | Hrw|work | proti: I probably know why... pcmcia-cs RDEPENDS on psmisc |
| 11:01.40 | Hrw|work | proti: http://www.hrw.one.pl/oe/ - check pcmcia-cs patch if you can |
| 11:03.55 | proti | Ok. I will check. |
| 11:05.21 | proti | Hrw|work: http://www.hrw.one.pl/oe/ : The requested URL /oe was not found on this server. |
| 11:05.58 | Hrw|work | ops.. |
| 11:06.04 | Hrw|work | http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/ |
| 11:07.38 | proti | Ok. better. |
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| 11:19.50 | Hrw|work | busybox builded with fuser |
| 11:21.44 | proti | Hrw|work: why do you remove modutils from RDEPENDS ? |
| 11:22.45 | Hrw|work | proti: busybox has all modutils |
| 11:22.57 | Hrw|work | except depmod which is in modutils-depmod |
| 11:24.03 | proti | Too good to be true. Image is still missing the bootstrap image. here is the image log. |
| 11:24.10 | proti | Downloading file:/home/openembedded/oetmp/deploy/ipk/task-bootstrap_1.0-r0_arm.ipk |
| 11:24.10 | proti | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap: |
| 11:24.10 | proti | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.12 | proti | kernel-module-irnet kernel-module-net+fd kernel-module-registers kernel-module-sa1100+bi kernel-module-usbdco |
| 11:24.16 | proti | re kernel-module-usbdmonitor |
| 11:24.30 | Hrw|work | proti: what MACHINE/DISTRO? |
| 11:24.55 | proti | collie/openzaurus |
| 11:25.19 | Hrw|work | hmm.. I builded it today |
| 11:25.51 | proti | I have a libgcc_3.4.0-r0_arm.ipk in the ipk directory. |
| 11:26.33 | proti | It this libgcc not libgcc1. |
| 11:27.07 | Hrw|work | hmm.. |
| 11:27.29 | proti | The libraries names do not match. |
| 11:38.48 | proti | Hrw|work: In do_image I have : /home/openembedded/oetmp/base/gcc-cross-3.4.0-r0/image/home/openembedded/oetmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/ |
| 11:40.03 | proti | /usr/bin/install -c -m 644 libgcc_s.so.1 ${BASE}/gccc-cross-3.4.0-r0/image/home/openembedded/oetmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 11:40.25 | proti | Then rm -f ${BASE}/gccc-cross-3.4.0-r0/image/home/openembedded/oetmp/cross/arm-linux/lib/libgcc_s.so |
| 11:40.46 | proti | and then ln -s libgcc_s.so.1 to libgcc_s.so |
| 11:41.02 | proti | If I do ls in ${BASE}/gccc-cross-3.4.0-r0/image/home/openembedded/oetmp/cross/arm-linux/lib |
| 11:41.07 | proti | I have : |
| 11:41.27 | proti | total 7994 |
| 11:41.27 | proti | -rw-r--r-- 1 seb dev 2730 May 11 11:03 libfrtbegin.a |
| 11:41.27 | proti | -rw-r--r-- 1 seb dev 989018 May 11 11:03 libg2c.a |
| 11:41.27 | proti | -rwxr-xr-x 1 seb dev 762 May 11 11:03 libg2c.la |
| 11:41.27 | proti | lrwxrwxrwx 1 seb dev 15 May 11 11:03 libg2c.so -> libg2c.so.0.0.0 |
| 11:41.30 | proti | lrwxrwxrwx 1 seb dev 13 May 11 11:03 libgcc_s.so -> libgcc_s.so.1 |
| 11:41.32 | proti | -rw-r--r-- 1 seb dev 403148 May 11 11:03 libiberty.a |
| 11:41.35 | proti | -rw-r--r-- 1 seb dev 6456676 May 11 11:03 libstdc++.a |
| 11:41.36 | Hrw|work | hm.. worked for me |
| 11:41.38 | proti | -rwxr-xr-x 1 seb dev 1397 May 11 11:03 libstdc++.la |
| 11:41.40 | proti | lrwxrwxrwx 1 seb dev 18 May 11 11:03 libstdc++.so -> libstdc++.so.6.0.0 |
| 11:41.43 | proti | -rw-r--r-- 1 seb dev 308836 May 11 11:03 libsupc++.a |
| 11:41.46 | proti | -rwxr-xr-x 1 seb dev 1305 May 11 11:03 libsupc++.la |
| 11:41.48 | proti | The libraries are missing. |
| 11:42.07 | Hrw|work | proti: how old is your toolchain? |
| 11:42.24 | proti | 4 hours :) |
| 11:43.16 | Hrw|work | hmm. again |
| 11:43.26 | proti | ? |
| 11:43.33 | Hrw|work | I bk pulled ~10:30, started build and it works for me |
| 11:43.41 | proti | I check. |
| 11:44.32 | proti | No nothing changed. Only updates of opie packages. |
| 11:45.02 | Hrw|work | wow.. lots of them |
| 11:46.48 | proti | Yes. My cross-gcc is 3.4.0 |
| 11:47.06 | Hrw|work | my too |
| 11:50.00 | proti | Ok, will retry a package of cross after a do_populate. I tried to repopulate the directory by removing the package_ipk stamps. Something may have been messed up. |
| 11:50.27 | proti | Yes, better. My mistake, sorry. |
| 12:09.14 | Hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 12:09.53 | mickeyl | yo Hrw|work |
| 12:10.48 | Hrw|work | mickeyl: can you look at my patches: http://www.hrw.one.pl/oe/ - it changes depends of pcmcia-cs and adds fuser into busybox (so we probably can drop psmisc) |
| 12:11.45 | mickeyl | will do |
| 12:11.59 | Hrw|work | thx |
| 12:12.34 | mickeyl | does pcmcia-cs really needs busybox as DEPEND ? |
| 12:12.44 | Hrw|work | it has modutils before |
| 12:12.54 | mickeyl | no |
| 12:12.58 | mickeyl | it had modutils as RDEPEND |
| 12:13.25 | mickeyl | it had no DEPENDS at all |
| 12:13.32 | Hrw|work | yes - but how to isntall pcmcia-cs when there won't be any modutils? |
| 12:13.58 | mickeyl | i think module.oeclass handles this |
| 12:14.32 | Hrw|work | I can build task-bootstrap without modutils, without psmisc and cannot get it instaled because lack of psmisc, modutils for pcmcia-cs |
| 12:15.10 | Hrw|work | at least it was possible |
| 12:15.12 | mickeyl | then tell me. what does it need? |
| 12:15.22 | mickeyl | we're talking about DEPENDS here, not RDEPENDS |
| 12:15.52 | Hrw|work | pcmcia-cs needs fuser (from psmisc or patched busybox) and probably needs something from modutils |
| 12:16.05 | ShALLaX | whats this zImage i just got emailed? |
| 12:16.16 | ShALLaX | flt-ixb23.zip |
| 12:16.34 | ShALLaX | looks like it has a kernel in it.. and a .exe virus... |
| 12:16.50 | mickeyl | Hrw|work: i can't see where it uses fuser on compile time. where is this? |
| 12:17.22 | Hrw|work | mickeyl: it use fuser in /etc/pcmcia/shared script |
| 12:17.39 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 12:17.41 | mickeyl | you don't listen to me |
| 12:17.43 | mickeyl | DEPENDS |
| 12:17.44 | Hrw|work | mickeyl: OK |
| 12:17.44 | mickeyl | compile time |
| 12:17.53 | mickeyl | RDEPENDS = run time |
| 12:18.22 | mickeyl | so can we agree that DEPENDS can be empty? |
| 12:18.26 | Hrw|work | yes |
| 12:18.36 | mickeyl | cool |
| 12:18.42 | mickeyl | RDEPENDS = "busybox psmisc" is right |
| 12:18.55 | mickeyl | looking at 511.2 now |
| 12:19.16 | mickeyl | any idea if this is a stable URI? |
| 12:19.29 | mickeyl | if not we should properly download the patch into OE and apply it from FILESDIR |
| 12:19.32 | Hrw|work | not yet - I was thinking about add it |
| 12:19.40 | mickeyl | Hrw|work: would be better, just to be on the safe side |
| 12:19.43 | Hrw|work | yes |
| 12:19.58 | mickeyl | 511-3 looks well |
| 12:20.17 | mickeyl | this is cool, btw. safes us space |
| 12:20.26 | Hrw|work | I was thinking about adding few changes to busybox config |
| 12:20.44 | Hrw|work | adding fgrep is needed for on of initscripts (didn't remember which) |
| 12:20.50 | Hrw|work | s/on/one |
| 12:21.31 | mickeyl | yeah, why not |
| 12:21.39 | mickeyl | the more we can use from busybox the more space we save |
| 12:22.00 | mickeyl | unfortunately busybox/init is not capable enough |
| 12:22.10 | Hrw|work | I have to reserve some time for busybox testing |
| 12:30.22 | Hrw|work | mickeyl: can OE be configured to fallback to treke.net only when it cannot connect to cvs? now it looks like "cvs or treke.net" |
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| 12:33.43 | mickeyl | Hrw|work: no idea, should ask kergoth on that. he write the fetcher code, i never looked into that |
| 12:33.50 | Hrw|work | ok |
| 12:34.04 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:34.08 | mickeyl | morning chouimat |
| 12:36.47 | Hrw|work | hi chouimat |
| 12:48.09 | proti | hi chouimat |
| 12:50.58 | proti | mickeyl: cool. Is it possible to do like the 2.3.7 (i.e. just build the needed things and not all binaries and demos in shared and static version). |
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| 13:02.40 | Shayde | mornin folks. |
| 13:03.31 | proti | morning |
| 13:03.50 | Hrw|work | hi Shayde |
| 13:04.53 | Shayde | has anyone heard from Sven, fellow who runs the zaurus software index? i'm the guy running zsi2, and he hasn't updated in like a month. |
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| 13:07.16 | Hrw|work | Shayde: can you implement paging in views in zsi2? It's not comfortable to have add "&n=9000" to look at all progs in category |
| 13:07.24 | proti | Hum. Zaurus still not booting. What is it looking for ? /linuxrc or /bin/init ? |
| 13:07.29 | Shayde | hee :) |
| 13:07.45 | Shayde | Hrw|work: sure... i have a bunch of things i need to do on it, but i'm worried about the feeds not being updated in ages... |
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| 13:09.02 | Shayde | you know, i didn't even know the 'n=xxx' thing worked. neat. |
| 13:09.17 | Shayde | course it makes sense :) |
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| 13:10.16 | Hrw|work | Shayde: more sorting options, subcategories etc.. |
| 13:10.29 | Shayde | *nodnodndonod* |
| 13:10.42 | Shayde | the biggest set of changes that are pending are better vetting of updates... |
| 13:10.47 | pb_ | hi all |
| 13:10.48 | Shayde | database maintenance is a pain in the buttski now. |
| 13:10.59 | Hrw|work | Shayde: for me looking at ZSI(1/2) is waste of time if I have to use search to find something |
| 13:11.03 | Hrw|work | hi pb |
| 13:11.12 | Shayde | *nod* how about a simple [view all] in the toolbar, hrw? |
| 13:11.12 | calud | hi again, as I told I am too new to the oe environment and trying to move from cross-compiling to oe, I am having some problems and solving'em... which means figuring out how oe works :), now I want to ask something? now I am compiling random packages with oemake, most compiles well, but, for example 'oemake lsof' give an error of "file not found", which i traced that the corresponding file in source ftp server is moved under a directory called OLD, so I ch |
| 13:11.52 | Shayde | none of the categories are so long that they'd overflow the browser. |
| 13:12.31 | Hrw|work | Shayde: view all will be nice, but "view 25, next 25, prev 25" would be better |
| 13:12.37 | Shayde | hm. k. |
| 13:12.57 | mickeyl | proti: trying to work on that, yea |
| 13:13.04 | Hrw|work | calud: make a patch to SRC_URI and give it to us |
| 13:16.42 | Shayde | Hrw|work: i'm fiddling with the zsi code now. |
| 13:17.47 | proti | opie-image generated when oemake opie-image does not boot. Any idea why ? |
| 13:18.23 | Hrw|work | proti: looked at it's temp/log.do_images? |
| 13:18.25 | mickeyl | this can have literally thousands of reasons |
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| 13:18.36 | Hrw|work | re reenoo |
| 13:18.41 | mickeyl | first, like hrw says, sanity check opie-images/log.do_images |
| 13:18.45 | mickeyl | second, sanity check tmp/rootfs |
| 13:18.54 | mickeyl | 3rd boot with console=tty0 |
| 13:18.55 | reenoo_ | re |
| 13:19.50 | proti | Hrw|work: packages correctly installed but I can't find neither /linuxrc nor /bin/init |
| 13:20.39 | proti | mickeyl: 3rd means changing cmdline buried in the kernel ? |
| 13:22.42 | mickeyl | proti: yes |
| 13:23.00 | proti | ok, will do that. |
| 13:23.08 | mickeyl | proti: not buried though... it's defined in openzaurus-sa.oe |
| 13:23.27 | mickeyl | no need to change defconfig, since we overwrite it |
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| 13:29.25 | CIA-5 | 03szczepan 07 * r1.1529 10packages/lsof/lsof_4.70.oe: |
| 13:29.26 | CIA-5 | lsof_4.70.oe: |
| 13:29.26 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:29.28 | Hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 13:30.09 | Hrw|work | ops |
| 13:30.12 | Hrw|work | hi mithro |
| 13:30.37 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:30.39 | mickeyl | ~lart tab completion |
| 13:31.08 | mithro | so umm did i get my patch applied or where the objections? |
| 13:31.46 | Hrw|work | ;) |
| 13:33.07 | mickeyl | mithro: you should read the list more careful |
| 13:33.14 | mickeyl | mithro: if you did, you have seen my post: |
| 13:33.24 | mithro | yeah i was waiting for my email to download |
| 13:33.32 | mickeyl | Sounds good. Now... where's the patch? :) |
| 13:33.37 | mickeyl | this is what i responded |
| 13:33.44 | mickeyl | because apparantly your patch didn't make it to the list |
| 13:34.01 | mithro | yeah |
| 13:34.23 | Shayde | mmm. larting. |
| 13:34.24 | mithro | oe list doesn't do reply to munging |
| 13:34.34 | mickeyl | mithro: use another mime type |
| 13:34.43 | mickeyl | e.g. embed it into the text |
| 13:35.10 | mithro | i didn't attach it the first time |
| 13:35.13 | Hrw|work | mithro: text/plain text/x-diff are allowed |
| 13:35.16 | mithro | noticed my mistake |
| 13:35.34 | mithro | so did a "reply" to my original mail and sent the patch to myself :) |
| 13:35.44 | mickeyl | i see |
| 13:36.10 | mithro | all the lists i'm on apart from oe do reply to munging so that normally works :) |
| 13:36.40 | mithro | everything in pygame works apart from the fonts module |
| 13:37.53 | mickeyl | ... |
| 13:37.54 | mithro | patch sent |
| 13:38.08 | mickeyl | what's wrong with the fonts module? |
| 13:38.11 | mithro | the fonts module segfaults if you use it someway |
| 13:38.18 | mithro | i'm yet to track down the issue |
| 13:38.27 | mithro | s/someway/a certain way |
| 13:38.52 | mithro | i think it has to do with libsdl-ttf and opie's fonts |
| 13:39.10 | mithro | but i havn't confirmed it yet |
| 13:39.16 | mickeyl | d'oh this is helluva patch |
| 13:39.28 | mickeyl | did you test with a couple of other sdl apps? |
| 13:39.34 | mickeyl | e.g. scummvm? |
| 13:39.51 | mithro | i can't get scummvm to compile with the unmodified sdl |
| 13:40.00 | mithro | but vectoriods seems to work okay |
| 13:40.34 | mithro | and i know for a fact that it'll work for all code :) |
| 13:40.59 | mithro | because i didn't change any of it - i just moved it around - as far as a normal sdl app is concerned there is no change |
| 13:41.15 | mickeyl | fair enough |
| 13:41.43 | mithro | i think my scummvm problem was gcc 3.4 problem |
| 13:43.01 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1517 10packages/BitKeeper/deleted/.del-m4.patch: one more placeholder patch pending kergoth's real one |
| 13:43.01 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1518 10packages/BitKeeper/deleted/.del-m4.patch: |
| 13:43.01 | CIA-5 | Merge bk://openembedded@openembedded.bkbits.net/packages |
| 13:43.01 | CIA-5 | into r2d2.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de:/home/projekte/packages |
| 13:43.01 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1522 10packages/ (5 files in 5 dirs): This changes makes libsdl-qpe work with python-pygame. Patch courtesy mithro |
| 13:43.39 | mithro | what will that do to my setup? |
| 13:43.48 | mithro | do i have to roll back my changeset or something? |
| 13:43.57 | mithro | or will bk just nicley do everything? |
| 13:44.34 | mithro | it appears not |
| 13:45.25 | mithro | so umm whats the best way to do this? |
| 13:45.55 | mithro | bk unpull - remove the changeset bk pull? |
| 13:47.01 | mickeyl | did you commit the changes in your tree? |
| 13:47.09 | mickeyl | if not, then you can just bk unedit |
| 13:47.23 | mithro | thats how i created the changeset |
| 13:47.33 | mickeyl | then you may look into bk stripdel |
| 13:47.39 | mickeyl | no idea otherwise |
| 13:47.42 | mickeyl | <--- no bk expert |
| 13:47.59 | mickeyl | that worked? |
| 13:48.08 | mithro | that seemed to work |
| 13:48.11 | mickeyl | good |
| 13:48.39 | mithro | hrm i think the oe-cache is causing me problems |
| 13:49.04 | mithro | even after a clean build sdl apps are depending on libsdl-x11 instead of libsdl-qpe |
| 13:49.20 | mickeyl | although you have set the preferred provider? |
| 13:50.05 | mithro | virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe |
| 13:50.18 | mickeyl | looks good. then disable or delete the cache and rebuild |
| 13:50.41 | mickeyl | not sure if pb_ teached the cache to look for conf/local.conf changes |
| 13:50.52 | pb_ | it should do, but there might be bugs |
| 13:51.34 | mithro | you can't share caches between build tree either |
| 13:51.54 | pb_ | indeed |
| 13:51.56 | mickeyl | this is by design |
| 13:55.26 | mithro | hrm who changes libsdl apart from me? |
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| 13:56.55 | Hrw|work | apropos conf/local.conf I have one thing to test.. include local.conf.sample in local.conf and then add only needed things - rest will be really OE default |
| 13:57.07 | mithro | because it won't build now because it's trying to find libSDLmain.a in .libs instead of the actual directory? |
| 13:57.26 | mickeyl | sounds like a problem with kergoth's new shiny oe_libinstall |
| 13:57.45 | mithro | ah :) |
| 13:57.47 | mickeyl | feel free to revert to using oe_soinstall and install |
| 13:57.55 | mithro | well it works for most of libsdl |
| 13:58.09 | mithro | however as i said libSDLmain is in the base not in the .libs |
| 13:59.19 | mickeyl | might as well copy it there before using oe_libinstall :D |
| 14:00.27 | mithro | you want to make the change? |
| 14:00.40 | mithro | mickeyl: do you recon i could adopt python-pygame package? :) |
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| 14:09.24 | proti | I guessed right. The root fs is mounted right but the kernel panics : no init found. |
| 14:09.50 | mickeyl | mithro: feel free to adopt pygame (and maybe sdl?). we seriously lack maintainers. |
| 14:09.58 | mickeyl | mithro: send me your rsa1 key and i'll add you |
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| 14:10.37 | Hrw|work | proti: show me your log.do_images |
| 14:13.33 | mithro | dang i need to fix this raid array |
| 14:13.49 | Hrw | I think that we can win 8KiB of space - makedevs is in busybox too |
| 14:14.03 | proti | Hrw: How, by mail ? |
| 14:14.27 | Hrw | proti: zaurus@hrw.one.pl |
| 14:14.32 | proti | ok. |
| 14:15.53 | proti | Hrw: mail sent. |
| 14:17.29 | Hrw | proti: and readed |
| 14:18.41 | mickeyl | ... and decides drive home |
| 14:18.48 | mithro | hrm |
| 14:18.49 | Hrw | proti: I'll look and compare with mine: http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/0511_bootstrap-image.log.text |
| 14:18.51 | mithro | bash-2.05b# raidhotadd /dev/md3 /dev/hdb5 |
| 14:18.52 | mithro | /dev/md3: can not hot-add disk: disk busy! |
| 14:19.31 | Hrw | proti: btw - to boot tests I propose "bootstrap-image" rather then "opie-image" - it needs less time to build |
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| 14:19.53 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:19.56 | proti | ok |
| 14:20.00 | proti | CosmicPenguin: ok. |
| 14:20.05 | proti | CosmicPenguin: morning. |
| 14:20.09 | proti | sorry ! |
| 14:20.20 | mithro | fsck |
| 14:21.08 | Hrw | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 14:22.14 | proti | Hrw: busybox .config : # CONFIG_INIT is not set |
| 14:22.24 | proti | should be my problem. |
| 14:22.53 | Hrw | proti: we don't use init from busybox |
| 14:23.38 | proti | Which one ? initscripts ? |
| 14:25.14 | proti | ok I see, sysvinit. |
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| 14:26.48 | Hrw | yep |
| 14:27.03 | proti | Hrw: There is no init in my sysvinit package. normal ? |
| 14:27.14 | Hrw | proti: postinst was started bad |
| 14:27.44 | Hrw | proti: sysvinit creates /sbin/init in postinst by symlinking /sbin/sysvinit to /sbin/init |
| 14:28.27 | Hrw | proti: it worked on my system |
| 14:29.41 | proti | My log says : (offline root mode: not running sysvinit.postinst) |
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| 14:30.28 | proti | Hrw: Seems to be normal behaviour. |
| 14:31.56 | Hrw | proti: and finally I got: + sh /home/szczepan/zaurus/build/oe/tmp/rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/info/sysvinit.postinst (and you too) |
| 14:32.41 | proti | Yes |
| 14:33.03 | Hrw | so it should work |
| 14:33.56 | proti | Yes I have it now in rootfs. Maybe I reflashed the wrong image. |
| 14:35.23 | Hrw | maybe |
| 14:35.37 | Hrw | proti: you are flashing collie? |
| 14:35.53 | proti | Yes. |
| 14:36.24 | Hrw | so we have 3 people to collie testing |
| 14:36.34 | Hrw | You, Pendalar and I |
| 14:37.34 | chouimat | re |
| 14:38.05 | pb_ | Hrw: the makedevs in busybox is not sufficient for our needs. |
| 14:38.45 | proti | flashing now. |
| 14:38.53 | Hrw | pb_: nice to know |
| 14:39.00 | proti | pb_: What is lacking ? |
| 14:39.38 | pb_ | proti: I don't recall exactly. I don't think it was a trivial issue though. |
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| 14:40.51 | pb_ | does anybody know what's wrong with uicmoc3-native at the moment? |
| 14:40.59 | pb_ | | The specified system/compiler is not supported: |
| 14:40.59 | pb_ | 1143 | |
| 14:40.59 | pb_ | 1144 | /home/pb/oe/oe-packages/tmp/base/uicmoc3-native-3.3.1-r0/qt-x11-free-3.3.1/mkspecs/linux-oe-g++ |
| 14:41.07 | pb_ | gb2, is this your doing? |
| 14:41.23 | proti | pb_: mickey|wayHome was working at it. |
| 14:41.30 | pb_ | aha |
| 14:41.58 | kergoth`zzz | our QMAKESPEC is exported for qtopia/opie app builds, but qt/x11 3.x uses qmake itself in its build. |
| 14:42.09 | kergoth`zzz | unset/unexport it in uicmoc to prevent it hosing the build |
| 14:42.37 | pb_ | ah, I see. |
| 14:42.43 | pb_ | maybe native.oeclass should unset it, or something |
| 14:43.01 | kergoth | i suspect it should be getting set/exported in the oeclass, not oe.conf, then we'd just not pull in that class for qt/x11 3.x |
| 14:43.13 | kergoth | course that means local.conf couldnt override it.. /me shrugs |
| 14:43.35 | proti | Hrw: Same thing. Panic no init found. Is the kernel looking for /bin/init or /sbin/init ? |
| 14:43.36 | pb_ | yah, makes sense. I guess the oeclass could set it with ?=. |
| 14:43.45 | kergoth | thats true |
| 14:43.46 | pb_ | proti: the latter |
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| 14:44.36 | joyping | hi all |
| 14:44.37 | gb2 | move setting of the default QMAKESPEC to the class with ?= ? |
| 14:44.46 | pb_ | right |
| 14:44.55 | gb2 | there were a few that manually call qmake with a qmake spec |
| 14:45.11 | gb2 | rather, with ${QMAKESPEC} |
| 14:45.19 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1524 10packages/uicmoc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:45.19 | CIA-5 | - update uicmoc3-native to 3.3.2 |
| 14:45.19 | CIA-5 | - build uicmoc3 against Qt/Embedded, not against Qt/X11 |
| 14:45.19 | gb2 | doing that will break those |
| 14:45.26 | pb_ | why's that? |
| 14:45.31 | gb2 | pb: duno |
| 14:45.34 | gb2 | i didn't write them |
| 14:45.36 | gb2 | just ran into them |
| 14:45.41 | pb_ | no, I mean why will it break them |
| 14:45.51 | gb2 | pb: because now ${QMAKESPEC} will be unset |
| 14:46.00 | gb2 | if that change was made |
| 14:46.18 | gb2 | pb: our QMAKESPEC works fine for native packages |
| 14:46.28 | gb2 | it's intended to work for both native and target packages |
| 14:46.35 | pb_ | ah. |
| 14:46.46 | pb_ | so how come uicmoc3 was breaking? |
| 14:46.47 | gb2 | the problem is uicmoc3 calls against its own set of specfiles |
| 14:46.50 | gb2 | it's not using ours |
| 14:46.56 | pb_ | oh, right, I see |
| 14:46.57 | gb2 | so it can't find it |
| 14:47.05 | pb_ | oh well, maybe mickey's patch will have fixed it anyway |
| 14:47.20 | gb2 | proper soltuion is to install our spec files into it and build. or perhaps what mickey did |
| 14:47.46 | gb2 | i seem to often reappear when people talk about me. |
| 14:47.50 | gb2 | i -just- got into work |
| 14:48.05 | pb_ | heh |
| 14:48.08 | Hrw | gb2: ;) |
| 14:48.35 | gb2 | i think mickeyl's fix won't work for linux-uclibc |
| 14:49.05 | gb2 | wait |
| 14:49.06 | gb2 | no |
| 14:49.08 | gb2 | doesn't matter |
| 14:49.12 | gb2 | native, right. |
| 14:49.27 | kergoth | gb2: hm? i dont see how moving QMAKESPEC to the qmake oeclass breaks anything. anything depending on it should be pulling in that class. |
| 14:49.36 | kergoth | gb2: ?= is set only if unset. |
| 14:49.54 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 14:50.19 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: doh - I get back from my trip, and I see that none of my attachments made it through to the list |
| 14:50.27 | kergoth | you could kill ?= and just =, all you lose is the ability to override it from a local.conf. |
| 14:50.45 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: probably not amd. the list blocks certain mime types, and blocks all mails if you arent subscribed |
| 14:51.06 | kergoth | or rather, holds em for moderation |
| 14:51.09 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe sylpheed is causing shit |
| 14:51.19 | gb2 | oh |
| 14:51.24 | Hrw | CosmicPenguin: text/plain text/x-diff are allowed on OE list |
| 14:52.10 | CosmicPenguin | Hrw: yeah, sylpheed default is octet stream |
| 14:52.24 | CosmicPenguin | stupid developers, how about doing some damn magic checking before assuming? |
| 14:52.26 | pb_ | ah, the list certainly won't like that |
| 14:55.17 | Hrw | CosmicPenguin: I used sylpheed-claws and switched off to kmail |
| 14:56.35 | kergoth | ah cool, michael is adding application/pgp-signature as a valid type as well today. |
| 14:59.27 | Hrw | fuser, lsof, fgrep added |
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| 15:02.10 | Hrw | ok. three patches to test today |
| 15:02.28 | VikingRaider | has anyone tried the gesture recognition with an x86 device ? |
| 15:06.40 | Hrw | btw - if I want to add something device specific to package I have to use oe_machinstall and have device_files in $FILESDIR/$MACHINE/ - can I have empty dirs for some devices? |
| 15:13.55 | mickeyl | Hrw: yes, that works. oe_machinstall honors overrides and defaults |
| 15:15.26 | Hrw | ok |
| 15:15.39 | Hrw | mickeyl: so I probably try to get apmd working |
| 15:16.03 | mickeyl | probably using the apmwrapper solution until we got a non-broken kernel seems best |
| 15:16.06 | mickeyl | what do you think? |
| 15:16.28 | Hrw | I was thinking about apmwrapper from oz |
| 15:16.32 | mickeyl | right |
| 15:16.43 | mickeyl | gawd i hate all those workarounds we have to do |
| 15:16.48 | mickeyl | ~lart embedix |
| 15:17.00 | mickeyl | s/embedix/lineo jp/ |
| 15:17.39 | Hrw | I used 40x24 terminal once |
| 15:18.18 | proti | It was on an Apple ][ |
| 15:18.39 | Hrw | we connected c128 to amiga as a terminal. 40x24 was in C64 terminal program which we used to transfer (ZModem) desterm - c128 terminal which gives us 80x25 terminal with better readability |
| 15:19.15 | Hrw | proti: apple I/II was not popular in this part of europe |
| 15:19.52 | Hrw | proti: atari xl/xe, c64, zx spectrum (mostly clones) |
| 15:20.00 | prpplague | Hrw: we did a store installation where the owner had 15 TI 99/4a's that he wanted us to set up as serial terminals |
| 15:20.09 | proti | Hrw: Good machine, really simple. |
| 15:20.26 | Hrw | ti 99/4a is a programable calculator? |
| 15:20.54 | proti | no a computer with an awful basic. |
| 15:21.16 | Shayde | heh. i used to own a 99/4a. |
| 15:21.20 | prpplague | Hrw: http://www.99er.net/ti.shtml |
| 15:21.20 | Shayde | and a weird keyboard. |
| 15:21.51 | proti | Shayde: How do you program sprites in plain ti 99/4a basic ? |
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| 15:22.44 | Shayde | ung. i didn't. i had one for about 6 months, my friend was a total nut - had the big expansion boxes and everything. |
| 15:22.49 | mithro | well that was my excitment for the night |
| 15:22.49 | Shayde | i think i played 3 games on it, that was it :) |
| 15:22.51 | mithro | thank god for raid |
| 15:23.11 | mithro | now back to what i was doing |
| 15:23.18 | Hrw | it was 16bit...? |
| 15:23.22 | proti | Hrw: I'm going mad at this init problem. The line before is ' couldn't find valid ramdisk image starting at 0.' Normal ? |
| 15:23.25 | mithro | brb trying out new wireless card |
| 15:24.28 | Hrw | proti: ignore |
| 15:25.03 | proti | How can I check the jffs2 image I build ? how do I mount it ? |
| 15:25.27 | Hrw | proti: on http://www.zaurususergroup.com/ forums was info how to mount it |
| 15:25.48 | Hrw | proti: but in TMPDIR/rootfs/ you have whole image before mkfs.jffs2 |
| 15:26.16 | proti | Yes, but I wonders if the image is really the one from rootfs. |
| 15:26.34 | Hrw | it should be |
| 15:26.44 | Hrw | proti: rm -rf TMPDIR/rootfs and rebuild image |
| 15:27.16 | proti | That is what I did. I was thinking about something like bad jffs image generation. |
| 15:27.19 | mithro | back |
| 15:27.48 | Hrw | mithro: wireless not working? |
| 15:29.05 | joyping | i just fetched oe, the readme tells me that the oe files are in content, but i have no content-dir in oe? |
| 15:29.12 | joyping | did something changed? |
| 15:29.23 | mithro | nah i picked up some different wireless cards for free |
| 15:29.38 | Hrw | joyping: go to http://www.openembedded.org/ |
| 15:29.54 | Hrw | mithro: share it ;) |
| 15:30.34 | mithro | they are pcmcia so not worth it :) |
| 15:30.36 | mithro | brb again |
| 15:32.06 | calud | bye all, thank you for all info, I guess soon I'll be able to test and compile with poodle. |
| 15:32.21 | joyping | ah ok, oemake would do all |
| 15:32.32 | joyping | i was confused by the readme |
| 15:34.53 | Hrw | calud: bye - and be back - we need someone to test on poodle :) |
| 15:35.16 | mithro | anyone know if there is an open source driver for the RoamAbout Enterasys cards? |
| 15:36.49 | CosmicPenguin | mithro: I believe they are Orinoco based, but I might be wrong |
| 15:37.38 | mithro | yeah it appears to be Orinoco based |
| 15:38.04 | gb2 | oh |
| 15:38.06 | gb2 | i k now a fix |
| 15:38.52 | gb2 | no .. hrm. |
| 15:40.44 | mithro | mickeyl: you still about? |
| 15:40.56 | VikingRaider | mithro: yes there is a driver for the roamabout |
| 15:41.04 | VikingRaider | use the orinoco_cs driver |
| 15:41.08 | VikingRaider | works perfect |
| 15:41.23 | mickeyl | mithro: about not, around yes ;) |
| 15:42.17 | mithro | okay just send you a normal ssh rsa 1 key? |
| 15:42.22 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 15:43.27 | mithro | by email? |
| 15:43.59 | Hrw | opie-image RDEPENDS libipkg but it is libipkg0 in debian_names |
| 15:44.20 | mickeyl | mithro: yes. mickeyl@handhelds.org |
| 15:44.25 | mickeyl | Hrw: can change that |
| 15:45.31 | Hrw | mickeyl: do we need it in opie-image? opie-packagemanager is the only one which need it - so maybe it should has it? |
| 15:46.49 | pb_ | Hrw: where is that RDEPENDS coming from? |
| 15:46.56 | mithro | how many bits? |
| 15:47.19 | Hrw | pb_: OPIE_BASE_RDEPENDS = "libipkg ntpdate" in meta/opie-image (you have ntp instead ntpdate) |
| 15:47.22 | pb_ | oh, I see, it's in opie-image.oe itself. |
| 15:47.27 | pb_ | Hrw: that is bogus and should be deleted |
| 15:47.34 | Hrw | just like I thought |
| 15:47.47 | pb_ | right |
| 15:47.58 | mickeyl | why do we need to specify IPKG_INSTALL at all then? |
| 15:48.16 | mickeyl | if everything is inherited via RDEPENDS we shouldn't need that or do we? |
| 15:48.36 | pb_ | IPKG_INSTALL is what image_ipk.oeclass actually looks t. |
| 15:48.38 | pb_ | s/t/at |
| 15:49.09 | mickeyl | that means? what happens if IPKG_INSTALL doesn't contain libipkg0 while a package depend on it? |
| 15:49.22 | mickeyl | s/depend/RDEPENDS/ |
| 15:49.30 | pb_ | mickeyl: it will work fine. ipkg will respect dependencies during installation. |
| 15:49.41 | Hrw | mickeyl: libipkg0 will be get from this package depends |
| 15:50.29 | pb_ | There should never be any need to list libraries in IPKG_INSTALL, since they will always come in from package RDEPENDS. |
| 15:50.34 | proti | hrw: didn't find the thread you were talking about. |
| 15:50.54 | mithro | mickeyl: key sent |
| 15:50.56 | proti | Is there a way to mount the jffs2 image generated on the building system. |
| 15:51.01 | mickeyl | pb_: ok, so we only need to add leaves to IPKG_INSTALL. things we find necessary but nothing rdepends on it |
| 15:51.04 | pb_ | right |
| 15:51.11 | mickeyl | understood |
| 15:51.27 | Hrw | proti: hmm |
| 15:52.07 | pb_ | mickeyl: for example, if you look at gpe-image.oe, our IPKG_INSTALL is just: |
| 15:52.07 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.08 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.08 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.30 | pb_ | the "gpe" metapackage pulls in all the GPE applications and their required libraries. |
| 15:52.31 | Hrw | proti: http://zaurususergroup.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2495&highlight=mount+jffs2 |
| 15:53.12 | proti | Hrw: Ok. thank you. |
| 15:53.13 | mickeyl | pb_: handy. gpe is emitted by meta-gpe ? |
| 15:53.17 | pb_ | mickeyl: right |
| 15:53.28 | mickeyl | i see. we should follow that example in opie then |
| 15:53.48 | mickeyl | i like to have it a bit more fine granular though |
| 15:53.55 | Hrw | http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/0511.5_opie-image.diff |
| 15:54.23 | mickeyl | looks good |
| 15:54.26 | mickeyl | you already split ntp ? |
| 15:54.35 | Hrw | yes yesterday |
| 15:54.36 | mickeyl | rock. |
| 15:55.10 | Hrw | I'm not good at C/c++ things but packaging is other thing |
| 15:55.11 | Hrw | :) |
| 15:56.13 | mickeyl | you see, every contribution helps. at the moment we need packaging more than anything else |
| 15:56.22 | Hrw | I know |
| 15:56.43 | Hrw | btw - pcmcia-cs segfaults |
| 15:58.02 | mickeyl | suck. this can have thousands of reasons. maybe compare our build process to the one we used in oz. possibly we left out important patches or configurations or anything |
| 15:58.41 | treke_ | pcmcia segfaultS? |
| 15:58.51 | treke_ | I've used it, so it has to be something recent |
| 15:58.52 | Hrw | treke_: yes - cardmgr |
| 15:59.18 | mickeyl | can also depend on the module it loads |
| 15:59.24 | mickeyl | you have different cards ? |
| 15:59.39 | Hrw | two memory cards: 16MiB Lexar, 256MiB Kingston |
| 16:00.16 | Hrw | and don't think I can get other then memory |
| 16:00.53 | Hrw | ok. I have to go home |
| 16:00.57 | mickeyl | cu |
| 16:01.13 | Hrw | I be back today - time to citool some patches |
| 16:10.33 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo. Offical go ahead for migrating to OE to develop all of our internal Geode images |
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| 16:12.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: congrads |
| 16:12.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how many clue bats did you break trying to get that done? |
| 16:13.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: many |
| 16:14.14 | mithro | well i'm off to bed |
| 16:14.16 | mithro | gnight |
| 16:14.28 | mithro | Geode? |
| 16:15.28 | pb_ | hi treke |
| 16:16.21 | treke_ | if you run out, I have a bunch of email from people trying to sell me more |
| 16:22.46 | CosmicPenguin | treke_: people are trying to sell you Geodes? |
| 16:22.52 | treke_ | no. vigah |
| 16:23.00 | CosmicPenguin | ohh... heh |
| 16:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | That was a great joke that flew right over my head |
| 16:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | Its not fun being witty when your audience is dense |
| 16:23.22 | treke_ | hehe |
| 16:23.34 | treke_ | I'm used to it |
| 16:52.37 | kergoth_ | re |
| 16:53.03 | gb2 | re |
| 16:53.38 | kergoth_ | finally dropped some cash on some bedroom furniture.. then to buy a matress & boxspring.. then its no more couch for me |
| 16:53.48 | gb2 | heh |
| 16:53.55 | gb2 | i did that with my first paycheck |
| 16:54.02 | gb2 | i slept on a pad on the floor till then |
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| 16:55.39 | CosmicPenguin | Why would a configure script create a .m4 file? |
| 16:59.25 | kergoth | 11:56 < solar> http://dev.gentoo.org/~solar/uclibc/gdb-6.1-uclibc.patch (builds fine but untested runtime) It |
| 16:59.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.34 | kergoth | gb2: might want to look at that |
| 17:02.28 | CosmicPenguin | treke_: did you move the sources directory? |
| 17:12.47 | CosmicPenguin | nuts |
| 17:12.51 | mewyn | :) |
| 17:13.17 | mewyn | got my zire yesterday |
| 17:13.42 | kergoth | how is it? |
| 17:13.51 | mewyn | nice |
| 17:14.00 | mewyn | ui is the same as palm's ever been |
| 17:14.01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: The acpaths thing sort of falls down with multiple configures |
| 17:14.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: how so? |
| 17:14.30 | mewyn | but it's snappy, having a 300MHz processor, and a real speaker insted of the buzzer |
| 17:14.47 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: going into a subconfig, the relative paths are no longer the same |
| 17:15.05 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: then people should stop using relative paths when setting acpaths :P |
| 17:15.23 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: heh - this is from the default script in actools.oeclass |
| 17:15.33 | CosmicPenguin | s/actools/autotools/ |
| 17:15.49 | kergoth | ah, the find is being called with a relative path? |
| 17:15.50 | kergoth | oops |
| 17:16.02 | kergoth | patches welcome :) |
| 17:23.28 | treke_ | CosmicPenguin: Something funky is going on with that directory |
| 17:25.18 | CosmicPenguin | treke_: indeed |
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| 17:29.26 | kergoth | we really need a way to automatically clean and rebuild packages touched recently, from a pull |
| 17:33.39 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: Do you know how I could make autoreconf ignore a directory? |
| 17:37.04 | treke_ | kergoth: Was thinking of storing md5s of the oes in a stamp |
| 17:37.16 | treke_ | then check that during the oemake process |
| 17:37.27 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: i dont think that would be a good idea. it remakes any dir listed in AC_CONFIG_SUBDIRS |
| 17:37.31 | treke_ | if (!built || !same ) build () |
| 17:37.45 | kergoth | treke_: yeah, thats like how i did it at the task level for build daemon stuff in the past |
| 17:37.51 | kergoth | should give some thought to how best to implement |
| 17:39.47 | kergoth | treke_: would need to think about the fact that we've got includes happening |
| 17:39.57 | kergoth | an included .oe needs to make the includer dirty as well |
| 17:42.46 | treke_ | and imo a dirty dependency should dirty anything that depends on it, at least optionaly |
| 17:43.01 | kergoth | that one's arguable. definately optional |
| 17:43.12 | kergoth | itd be cool if it compared what ended up in staging |
| 17:43.14 | kergoth | to what was there before |
| 17:43.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:43.22 | kergoth | and dirty its dependent packages based on that |
| 17:44.23 | CosmicPenguin | holy moley, i'm in the rpm-native compile stage.. :) |
| 17:44.29 | treke_ | something like that |
| 17:44.33 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: nice |
| 17:44.51 | kergoth | treke_: since by definition staging is how packages interact.. |
| 17:45.08 | CosmicPenguin | oops - Thats not good.. :) |
| 17:45.24 | CosmicPenguin | err, I guess I'm not in the rpm-native compile stage |
| 17:45.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:46.01 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1525 10packages/qt/ (qt-x11-free-3.3.2/no-examples.patch qt-x11-free_3.3.2.oe): attempt to have a sane qt-x11 build working using _our_ qmake |
| 17:46.01 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1526 10packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): make opie-i18n native tools use our qmake+qmakespec |
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| 17:49.11 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.12 | kergoth | OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/kergoth/code/packages/tmp/base/glibc-initial-2.3.2+cvs20040507-r1/image/usr/lib/gconv' |
| 17:49.15 | kergoth | hmm |
| 17:49.20 | kergoth | blows up every time i bu ild glibc-initial |
| 17:49.22 | kergoth | odd |
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| 17:51.03 | kergoth | pb_: wb |
| 17:51.41 | pb_ | re |
| 17:53.30 | CosmicPenguin | Who "owns" the x86_64 site file? |
| 17:53.51 | kergoth | ummm.. you? |
| 17:54.16 | CosmicPenguin | somebody else checked it in, I assumed that somebody was in charnge.. :) |
| 17:54.39 | pb_ | nobody is in charge around here |
| 17:54.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:55.11 | CosmicPenguin | Anywho, I'm not sure if any other apps need db_cv_mutex=${db_cv_mutex=no}, but RPM definately does not want that line in |
| 17:55.37 | mjc | blarg |
| 17:55.46 | kergoth | well i expect you'll be working with that platform more than anyone else, you can take ownership |
| 17:55.55 | mjc | hostap doesn't pull in a kernel or tell you to |
| 17:56.05 | kergoth | that sounds broken |
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| 17:56.56 | mjc | I very much agree |
| 17:57.26 | mjc | why's openzaurus-2.6.5 depend on gcc 3.3.3? |
| 17:57.27 | kergoth | look at how the other kernel module .oe's do it, then send a patch :) |
| 17:57.28 | mjc | should be on 3.4 |
| 17:57.37 | kergoth | i highly doubt thatll build with 3.4. |
| 17:57.49 | mjc | it should, 2.6.5 vanilla builds fine |
| 17:58.01 | mjc | 2.4 only has a few minor problems, easy fix |
| 17:59.15 | mjc | cya kergoth |
| 17:59.17 | kergoth | mjc: ah, cool. patches welcome :) |
| 17:59.23 | mjc | kergoth: sure |
| 17:59.24 | pb_ | kergoth: enjoy |
| 17:59.49 | joyping | what is the recommoend (stable) kernel for collie? |
| 17:59.56 | pb_ | openzaurus-sa |
| 18:00.11 | joyping | its 2.4.28? |
| 18:00.25 | joyping | sorry 2.4.18 i mean |
| 18:00.30 | pb_ | yes |
| 18:00.30 | joyping | :) |
| 18:00.44 | mjc | same for poodle I believe |
| 18:01.01 | mjc | a lot has gone on since 2.4.18 |
| 18:01.32 | joyping | whats with the 2.6.5? |
| 18:01.50 | mjc | joyping: needs modules ported to it |
| 18:01.55 | joyping | k |
| 18:07.00 | mjc | later Twiun[away] |
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| 18:28.36 | mjc | openzaurus-pxa wants 2.95 |
| 18:28.53 | pb_ | indeed, none of the embedix kernels will build with 3.x |
| 18:29.00 | mjc | that's retarded |
| 18:29.12 | pb_ | sure, but that's the way it is. |
| 18:38.23 | CIA-5 | 03szczepan 07 * r1.1524.1.1 10packages/meta/opie-image.oe: |
| 18:38.23 | CIA-5 | opie-image.oe: |
| 18:38.23 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.32 | treke_ | eh |
| 18:41.52 | treke_ | I'd much rather be as explicit as possible about image oe's |
| 18:43.47 | pb_ | why? |
| 18:44.12 | treke_ | pb_: makes it easier to see what is included in an image |
| 18:44.36 | prpplague | treke_: isn't that what we are using the manifest lists for? |
| 18:44.58 | treke_ | prpplague: Arent they generated at build time? |
| 18:45.34 | pb_ | treke_: mm, why would you want to see what's in an image (at that level of detail) without building one? |
| 18:46.30 | prpplague | treke_: hmm, well, hmm, not sure what all kergoth has implemented yet, but my manifest lists are created when building and also can be used for generating the image |
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| 18:47.52 | kergoth | yeah, the plan is for oeinstall or whatever to merge the individual package manifests into one, so that we have a bill of materials for an image |
| 18:47.55 | kergoth | doesnt do that piece yet |
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| 19:05.15 | jochen | NOTE: package stunnel-4.05-r0: task do_package started |
| 19:05.15 | jochen | NOTE: No locale files in this package |
| 19:05.15 | jochen | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 19:05.15 | jochen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.15 | jochen | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group' |
| 19:06.07 | jochen | something fubar... |
| 19:06.19 | pb_ | yeah, it doesn't like the way your shared libraries are named. |
| 19:06.32 | pb_ | what libraries are in that package? |
| 19:07.26 | pb_ | fpk: is there any chance you can stop your client from doing that all the time? |
| 19:07.48 | fpk | yes :) |
| 19:07.49 | fpk | cu |
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| 19:07.55 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:09.26 | jochen | I just tried a oemake -k world. |
| 19:09.46 | jochen | There is libstunnel.so |
| 19:09.53 | pb_ | what's its soname? |
| 19:10.37 | jochen | SONAME libstunnel.so |
| 19:11.09 | jochen | No version included in the SONAME, at all |
| 19:11.22 | pb_ | yah, that'll be what's upsetting it. |
| 19:11.28 | pb_ | let me fix that. |
| 19:17.02 | treke_ | anyone poked at newlibc? |
| 19:17.08 | pb_ | newlib? |
| 19:17.15 | treke_ | yeah |
| 19:17.30 | pb_ | not for a while. I don't think it fits our needs very well. |
| 19:17.54 | pb_ | it's really for hardcore embedded folks. |
| 19:17.55 | treke_ | someone just emailed me a nasty bash script for building a toolchain :) |
| 19:17.56 | gb2 | newlib is not very complete iirc |
| 19:18.00 | pb_ | right |
| 19:18.02 | gb2 | not in our sense atleast |
| 19:18.03 | treke_ | and it used newlib |
| 19:18.11 | pb_ | treke_: send it back |
| 19:18.13 | treke_ | hehe |
| 19:18.19 | gb2 | oemake gcc-cross |
| 19:18.20 | gb2 | ;) |
| 19:18.23 | pb_ | heh |
| 19:18.31 | treke_ | gb2: that was the intention. |
| 19:18.50 | gb2 | if you set CROSS_DIR to /usr/local/some_prefix |
| 19:18.53 | treke_ | Dont care to much, but it would be cool to do that :p. Assuming newlib isnt too terribly tough to add in |
| 19:18.54 | gb2 | and have that writable during build |
| 19:19.00 | gb2 | that should work |
| 19:19.31 | pb_ | treke_: it comes from the same cygnus tree as binutils, gcc, gdb and so on. So the same build process should work. |
| 19:19.37 | gb2 | treke: newlib gets you a C compiler, not as far as a c++ compiler iirc |
| 19:19.50 | treke_ | gb2: I dont imagine that's a problem. |
| 19:20.03 | gb2 | you don't even need newlib to build a C compiler |
| 19:20.35 | gb2 | for stuff like a kernel compiling C compiler, it just needs headers to build |
| 19:20.44 | gb2 | not to actually be useful for kernel building |
| 19:20.53 | treke_ | This is for building applications. |
| 19:20.57 | gb2 | weird |
| 19:21.16 | pb_ | I don't think newlib has enough marbles to build any non-trivial application for linux. |
| 19:21.24 | pb_ | possibly on i386, but not on arm |
| 19:21.35 | gb2 | i guess building cat doesn't really take much |
| 19:21.40 | gb2 | ;) |
| 19:21.52 | pb_ | it needs working syscalls, and I think that might be too much |
| 19:21.52 | gb2 | or hello world |
| 19:21.54 | treke_ | pb_: right, not planning on building linux stuff. Just making use of oe's non suckiness |
| 19:22.08 | gb2 | pb: you can do syscalls as cpp macros |
| 19:22.11 | pb_ | treke_: ah, fair enough |
| 19:22.24 | pb_ | gb2: right, but then you're not actually using newlib for anything |
| 19:22.31 | gb2 | right |
| 19:24.30 | pb_ | gb2: does oe know how to build a cross-gdb? that'd be a nice thing to have. |
| 19:24.44 | pb_ | then we could ship gdbserver in task-bootstrap, and debug at leisure. |
| 19:26.48 | gb2 | pb: i've never figured out how to build a cross-gdb successfully |
| 19:26.59 | gb2 | a coworker and I tried once |
| 19:27.18 | gb2 | we half got it working with a lot of hacking |
| 19:27.25 | kergoth | iirc buildroot had both gdb and ksymoops cross |
| 19:27.37 | gb2 | we tried with gdb6.0 |
| 19:27.43 | pb_ | gb2: odd, I don't remember it being that difficult |
| 19:27.43 | gb2 | it's possible something changed |
| 19:27.48 | pb_ | yah, could be |
| 19:27.56 | gb2 | pb: we found it was doing stuff like trying to build gdbserver natively |
| 19:28.07 | pb_ | oh, yeah, you need to curtail that. |
| 19:28.09 | gb2 | it's possible we simply didn't put enough effort into it |
| 19:28.20 | pb_ | gdbserver needs building separately. |
| 19:28.26 | kergoth | yep, buildroot had cross-gdb adn cross-ksymoops |
| 19:28.32 | kergoth | dunno what version or what was involved |
| 19:28.43 | gb2 | I wonder why oemake opie-addressbook tried to build avr-libc |
| 19:28.53 | pb_ | Name = gdb |
| 19:28.53 | pb_ | Version = 6.0 |
| 19:28.53 | pb_ | Revision = 1 |
| 19:28.55 | kergoth | did glibc and uclibc fail or something? |
| 19:29.04 | gb2 | kergoth: no |
| 19:29.07 | kergoth | odd |
| 19:29.08 | gb2 | uclibc worked fine |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | avr-libc really shouldnt provide virtual/libc, or we need a different virtual |
| 19:30.12 | kergoth | since iirc its api is different |
| 19:30.25 | jochen | Hmm, what is the preferred way to populate tmp/rootfs for oeimage? |
| 19:30.28 | gb2 | it's not a true libc |
| 19:30.36 | gb2 | rather.. not a posix libc |
| 19:30.43 | pb_ | jochen: oemake gpe-image |
| 19:30.45 | kergoth | right. and to bulid an avr gcc, you dont set an OS in the target at all |
| 19:30.58 | pb_ | yah, sounds like it shouldn't provide virtual/libc then |
| 19:31.02 | gb2 | kergoth: removing avr-libc's provide? |
| 19:31.12 | gb2 | i can't see how it could break anything |
| 19:31.19 | kergoth | no, buliding without os set |
| 19:31.24 | gb2 | oh |
| 19:31.27 | kergoth | but yeah, the provide should be yanked |
| 19:31.36 | gb2 | you can't build without an OS |
| 19:31.42 | gb2 | OS is part of a target |
| 19:31.51 | gb2 | s/target/system/ |
| 19:32.01 | kergoth | you can build a binutils and gcc for an avr that has no os. |
| 19:32.08 | gb2 | oh true |
| 19:32.09 | gb2 | hrm |
| 19:32.12 | kergoth | i've used OE to bootstrap compilers for building avr code to run on the chips |
| 19:32.15 | kergoth | way back |
| 19:32.16 | gb2 | yeah. forgot that quirk |
| 19:32.31 | gb2 | i don't think it breaks. |
| 19:32.41 | kergoth | one of these days i'll try |
| 19:32.51 | kergoth | havent messed with any avr stuff in a while |
| 19:32.51 | gb2 | oh, we nolonger depend on glibc or uclibc directly to build cross tools |
| 19:33.08 | gb2 | it's virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-initial or libc-for-gcc |
| 19:33.15 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:33.16 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:33.23 | gb2 | glibc and uclibc have skippackage rules in them |
| 19:33.50 | gb2 | which need refining if you want to make avr-libc do something like that. |
| 19:33.54 | kergoth | if you're feeling bored one of these days, add the bits to inject avr-libc into a toolchain build, which is only one pass. |
| 19:33.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:33.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:34.00 | gb2 | oh |
| 19:34.06 | gb2 | just add the skip package logic to avr-libc :) |
| 19:34.14 | pb_ | kergoth: if you have no OS, you ought to set OS='none'. that's what the GNU tools tend to expect. |
| 19:34.23 | kergoth | ah, cool. |
| 19:34.38 | kergoth | when i did builds in teh past i didnt set it at all, guess it defaulted |
| 19:34.51 | gb2 | you endup with avr-gcc |
| 19:34.55 | gb2 | rather than avr-none-gcc |
| 19:35.03 | kergoth | yeah, thats right |
| 19:35.03 | gb2 | i've done that in the past too |
| 19:35.22 | gb2 | i have one of those STK500 devel boards |
| 19:35.28 | kergoth | same |
| 19:35.54 | pb_ | doh, rxvt doesn't get on with our freetype. |
| 19:36.14 | pb_ | it does the "display all characters as a black rectangle" thing. |
| 19:40.05 | joyping | ERROR: dependency virtual/arm-linux-gcc-2.95 (for openzaurus-sa) not satisfied |
| 19:40.16 | pb_ | see local.conf.sample |
| 19:40.16 | kergoth | joyping: yep. read local.conf.sample. |
| 19:40.31 | joyping | opuh |
| 19:40.39 | joyping | i will read it |
| 19:41.53 | joyping | ok i found it |
| 19:41.56 | joyping | sorry |
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| 19:42.30 | kergoth | np, it really is a pain |
| 19:42.58 | pb_ | yeah |
| 19:43.07 | pb_ | what's the status with the jl 2.6? |
| 19:43.25 | kergoth | mostly cleaning up the core machine support bits to get them upstream, afaik |
| 19:43.35 | kergoth | keyboard is in, couple other periphs, but not many |
| 19:43.40 | pb_ | right |
| 19:44.02 | pb_ | sounds pretty much like where the ipaq is at, too |
| 19:46.15 | kergoth | i love 2.6. sooo much nicer in so many ways |
| 19:46.27 | pb_ | yah |
| 19:46.55 | pb_ | not that I've actually done any kernel work for months |
| 19:50.52 | jochen | kergoth: but the new DMA mappers are *still* b0rked for non-PCI :-( |
| 19:51.48 | jochen | BUG_ON(dev->bus != &pci_bus_type); |
| 19:53.14 | Shayde | well, anyway, i updated things a bit so 'view all' and some other stuff works. |
| 19:55.48 | pb_ | sounds messy |
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| 19:56.16 | Hrw | hi |
| 19:56.25 | pb_ | hi hrw |
| 19:56.26 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 19:56.29 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 19:56.33 | pb_ | hi woglinde |
| 19:56.49 | Hrw | my image is unbootable ;( |
| 19:56.54 | pb_ | that's very sad |
| 19:57.23 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:57.37 | kergoth | NoControlEvent: } while(DBEventNext(pmTraceDB, &lEvent) == TRUE); |
| 19:57.49 | kergoth | this code has a block inside the while that 'goto NoControlEvent' |
| 19:58.06 | kergoth | clearly it only wants to continue if the while condition is satisfied, but gcc34 doesnt allow a label at the end of a block |
| 19:58.08 | Hrw | argh... goto |
| 19:58.34 | kergoth | guess i'll cheat and do if(DBEventNext(pmTraceDB, &lEvent) == TRUE) continue; where the goto was |
| 19:58.43 | kergoth | since i dont feel like rearchitecting this block of their code |
| 19:58.45 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 19:58.48 | pb_ | kergoth: just stick a semicolon after the colon |
| 19:58.48 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: Yeah, thats gotten me a few times recently too |
| 19:59.12 | kergoth | pb_: ah |
| 19:59.25 | pb_ | 'NoControlEvent: ;' should work |
| 19:59.35 | kergoth | semicolon by itself works? i never seem to have a need for a noop, generally |
| 20:01.22 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 20:01.29 | kergoth | yay for hacking around the problem |
| 20:01.52 | woglinde | pb can you please give me the email address, where I should sent the tiny modutils patch? |
| 20:06.45 | Hrw | woglinde: what was changed? |
| 20:07.59 | CIA-5 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.1524.2.1 10packages/ltt/ (ltt-0.9.5a/gcc34.patch ltt_0.9.5a.oe): Add ltt 0.9.5a (Linux Trace Toolkit). |
| 20:08.49 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone have any thoughts on the best way to do platform specific configurations for popular apps (such as busybox)? |
| 20:08.57 | CosmicPenguin | obviously defconfig_${MACHINE} isn't very elegant |
| 20:09.02 | kergoth | use oe_machinstall |
| 20:09.17 | kergoth | that installs ${MACHINE}/filename |
| 20:09.22 | kergoth | or just filename if that doesnt exist |
| 20:09.28 | kergoth | see base.oeclass, or any of the packages that use it |
| 20:09.36 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh, sweet |
| 20:09.41 | Hrw | CosmicPenguin: modutils/modutils-collateral use it |
| 20:09.50 | Hrw | CosmicPenguin: initscripts |
| 20:10.52 | CosmicPenguin | See what happens when you ignore something for so long? |
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| 20:14.46 | pb_ | woglinde: oe@handhelds.org, I guess |
| 20:15.51 | woglinde | okay |
| 20:23.46 | CIA-5 | 03szczepan 07 * r1.1529 10packages/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:23.46 | CIA-5 | pcmcia-cs_3.2.7.oe: |
| 20:23.46 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.46 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.46 | CIA-5 | busybox_1.00-pre10.oe: |
| 20:23.47 | CIA-5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.49 | CIA-5 | defconfig: |
| 20:23.52 | jochen | Hmm, /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /ide/simpad/oe-packages/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libc.so.6 when searching for libc.so.6 |
| 20:23.55 | jochen | wtf... |
| 20:24.22 | Hrw | hmm.. I use long comments... to much cvs work ;) |
| 20:25.58 | CIA-5 | 03mickey 07 * r1.1528.1.1 10packages/ltt/ltt_0.9.5a.oe: fix syntax error in untested package :D |
| 20:26.36 | jochen | Why is it using native linker for crosslinking? |
| 20:26.52 | jochen | Package xt-cvs-0.0cvs20040511-r0 |
| 20:27.00 | mickeyl | Hrw: please use bk commit -y"changeset" to group changes belonging together. that way they get one changeset comment |
| 20:27.18 | Hrw | mickeyl: ok |
| 20:31.14 | CIA-5 | 03gbritton 07 * r1.1531 10packages/avr-libc/avr-libc_1.0.3.oe: add skip logic for avr-libc |
| 20:33.29 | jochen | xt-cvs-0.0cvs20040511-r0/Xt/util/Makefile.am contains "override CC = gcc". Very bad! |
| 20:33.46 | kergoth | override? |
| 20:33.49 | kergoth | wtf were they thinking? |
| 20:33.58 | kergoth | err, unless thats a native built package they ened to run in the build process |
| 20:34.08 | kergoth | in which case they shouldve overridden not just cc, but cflags and ldflags as well |
| 20:36.04 | pb_ | oh, er. that might have been my fault. |
| 20:36.42 | pb_ | it's a shame that automake doesn't properly support building stuff for the host during a cross compile. |
| 20:37.02 | jochen | It tries to do a native built utility, but with crosscompiled libraries. |
| 20:40.46 | jochen | overriding LDFLAGS seems to do the trick. |
| 20:41.42 | mjc | mm, quiznos |
| 20:44.59 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so, when trying to populate staging for rpm-native, it installs the binaries and libraries into the x86_64 subdir like its supposed to, but it is using staging/lib/rpm to install everything else, and I think that its getting confused trying to symlink |
| 20:45.20 | CosmicPenguin | Should I tell it to use the x86_64 sandbox for everthing? |
| 20:52.08 | woglinde | hm how can I tell oe that I want gcc-3.3.3 for kernelbuilds rathern than 3.4.0? |
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| 20:54.17 | mickeyl | read at least one of our kernel classes |
| 20:54.30 | mickeyl | hint: grep SUFFIX |
| 20:54.44 | mickeyl | s/classes/oe files/ |
| 20:55.40 | jochen | NOTE: package xt-cvs-0.0cvs20040511-r0: task do_compile completed :-) |
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| 21:15.11 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 21:15.32 | gb2 | the depends on libopie*2 all went away, but don't seem to be in the oeclasses |
| 21:22.03 | pb_ | CosmicPenguin: anything that would normally go in lib probably wants to be under ${STAGING_LIBDIR}. |
| 21:23.30 | CosmicPenguin | pb_: yeah, I figured as much |
| 21:23.45 | CosmicPenguin | pb_: like all things RPM, its much more painful then it should be |
| 21:25.20 | gb2 | hrm. |
| 21:25.31 | gb2 | how do i view history of a bk rm'd file? |
| 21:26.02 | CosmicPenguin | I know that we generally like $prefix=staging/ but in this case, I think that we should override it for RPM, since it stupidly uses prefix to do all sorts of things without letting the user override |
| 21:27.08 | CIA-5 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.609 10oe/classes/opie.oeclass: opie.oeclass now DEPENDS on libopie2\ |
| 21:29.31 | gb2 | ah. i see. |
| 21:29.33 | gb2 | sorta |
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| 21:35.40 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 21:35.55 | mickeyl | i have problems compiling a "cross"compiler i386-i386 |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | creating cache ./config.cache |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | | checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | | checking target system type... i386-pc-linux-gnu |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | | checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | | checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c |
| 21:36.29 | mickeyl | | *** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories: |
| 21:36.31 | mickeyl | | target-libstdc++-v3 target-libf2c target-libffi target-boehm-gc target-zlib target-libjava zlib fastjar target-libobjc |
| 21:36.34 | mickeyl | | (Any other directories should still work fine.) |
| 21:36.36 | mickeyl | | /usr/local/projects/tmp/cross/bin/ld: warning: ld-linux.so.2, needed by /lib/libc.so.6, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) |
| 21:36.47 | mickeyl | and then a pile of undeinfed references |
| 21:36.49 | kergoth | mickeyl: you cant do that. |
| 21:36.57 | mickeyl | obviously |
| 21:36.58 | mickeyl | bummer |
| 21:36.59 | mickeyl | why not? |
| 21:37.01 | kergoth | you ahve to force autoconf to believe you're crosscompiling. |
| 21:37.04 | kergoth | set the target vendor to oe |
| 21:37.11 | kergoth | or set the target architecutre to i686 rather than i386 |
| 21:37.13 | kergoth | or similar |
| 21:37.30 | mickeyl | target architecture i686 won't work |
| 21:37.36 | mickeyl | doesn't compile with glibc then |
| 21:38.06 | mickeyl | trying to set vendor then |
| 21:38.40 | darmou | is there a oz oe build around somewhere to try out? |
| 21:39.19 | CosmicPenguin | woo-hoo! I don't want to get my hopes up, but there is actually an 'rpm' binary in x86_64/bin... :) |
| 21:44.31 | joyping | where is the path set in oe? |
| 21:45.15 | joyping | after i set it manually to the old crosscompiler it claims that it doesnt find arm-linux-gcc-2.95 |
| 21:46.23 | mickeyl | you set that manually |
| 21:46.31 | mickeyl | you are resposible for everything ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 21:46.37 | joyping | yes export PATH=bla |