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| 09:23.51 | CIA-7 | 03jomaster * r11349 10optware/trunk/make/pkgconfig.mk: pkgconfig: using configure.patch for host-build to remove UNDERQUOTING-bug |
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| 15:55.41 | eno | jomaster: why not change to "if aclocal-1.9 --version 2>/dev/null; then ..."? |
| 15:56.13 | eno | the current $(shell ..) construct still takes time at macro expansion time |
| 16:01.44 | eno | actually, "if !" |
| 16:06.09 | eno | i'm also not sure the value of conditionally using host tool |
| 16:06.22 | eno | i like predictability better |
| 16:06.41 | eno | if we're using our own host tool, then in all cases use our own |
| 16:07.20 | eno | simplicity and predictability is more important in the long run |
| 16:08.57 | eno | think about in the future you need to troubleshoot - are we using /usr/bin/aclocal-1.9 or host/staging/opt/bin/aclocal-1.9 ? |
| 16:09.31 | eno | what if the behavior is slightly different? |
| 16:12.54 | jomaster | why should the behavior be different? it is aclocal-1.9 on /usr/bin/ as on host/staging/opt/bin. |
| 16:14.47 | jomaster | so why building only a simple tool if it already exists? |
| 16:16.10 | jomaster | about your condition: your are the expert. if you say $(shell isn't good, we use your way. |
| 16:22.44 | eno | aclocal is just an example |
| 16:23.10 | eno | take erlang for example, do we check erl already exists on build machine? |
| 16:25.11 | eno | we might need to work on libtool2-host-stage soon |
| 16:25.17 | jomaster | you are the maintainer. and i also suppose that building always the host-tool and use it, we are more stable. |
| 16:25.37 | jomaster | what about gcc-3.3-host-stage |
| 16:26.03 | eno | only stage it when needed |
| 16:26.36 | eno | don't check for gcc-3.3 existence |
| 16:27.15 | eno | i'm not the maintainer, i'm just feed manager and build master |
| 16:27.27 | jomaster | :-D |
| 16:29.17 | jomaster | so how to check? checking version of HOSTCC and than checking for gcc-3.3? |
| 16:30.20 | jomaster | if you like i remove automake-checks and add host-staging-bin on top of PATH to force using host-tool |
| 16:33.50 | eno | i said "don't check for gcc-3.3 existence" |
| 16:34.29 | eno | in the cases the host gcc-3.3 is needed, just go ahead and do host staging, and never look back |
| 16:35.26 | eno | in the case of automake 1.9 or 1.4, I propse "we don't check existence" either |
| 16:36.03 | jomaster | but you said: "only stage it when needed" |
| 16:36.14 | eno | when we need to use aclocal-1.9, just host staging, and use $(STAGING_PREFIX)/bin/aclocal-1.9 |
| 16:36.52 | eno | yeah, only fsg3v4 native toolchain needs gcc-3.3 |
| 16:37.10 | eno | so don't do gcc-3.3-host-stage for other platforms |
| 16:37.46 | eno | only a handful of packages need automake-1.9, only automake19-host-stage for these few packages |
| 16:38.43 | jomaster | and than remove host-stage? |
| 16:39.38 | eno | we have not solved the unstage problem, neither for staging, nor for host/staging |
| 16:40.14 | eno | but we survived for so long for staging, hope we can survive for a little bit for host/staging without removal |
| 16:42.07 | eno | if debian/redhat can make aclocal-1.9 to co-exist with aclocal-1.4 under /usr, we probably can make it work in host/opt |
| 16:42.33 | jomaster | for me it works |
| 16:42.45 | jomaster | on debian and also in host-stage |
| 16:43.38 | jomaster | i summarized: i remove checking for automake/aclocal and we build it everywhere we need. and we don't expand PATH but using automake/aclocal-host-stage-paths |
| 16:44.29 | eno | everywhere we need means 1.9 or 1.4 |
| 16:44.54 | jomaster | ah, not both together? |
| 16:45.00 | eno | use $(HOST_STAGING_PREFIX)/bin/aclocal-1.9 |
| 16:45.37 | eno | or $(HOST_STAGING_PREFIX)/bin/aclocal-1.4 |
| 16:45.44 | jomaster | think no problem. we can making automake19-host-stage depending on automake14-host-UNstage |
| 16:46.19 | eno | can automake19-host-stage and automake14-host-stage co-exist? |
| 16:46.24 | jomaster | yes |
| 16:46.30 | jomaster | works here |
| 16:46.38 | eno | let's not unstage |
| 16:47.08 | eno | think about the case when we have automake13 |
| 16:47.27 | eno | unstage is difficult |
| 16:47.35 | jomaster | until now i change name from automake to automake-1.9 but should be better with programm-suffix, isn't it? |
| 16:48.25 | eno | most packages work with /usr/bin/aclocal fine (don't require specific version) |
| 16:48.33 | eno | we'll leave it the way it is |
| 16:48.51 | eno | just use aclocal (or autoreconf) |
| 16:49.23 | eno | only use host tool for aclocal-1.9 or 1.4 |
| 16:49.55 | eno | okay, I gotta go to work |
| 16:49.56 | jomaster | but for the 3 packages a specific version is required we call: ACLOCAL="aclocal-1.9 -I m4" AUTOMAKE=automake-1.9 autoreconf -i -v; |
| 16:50.28 | jomaster | yes, we mean both the same |
| 16:50.59 | eno | only for the 3 packages, use ACLOCAL="$(HOST_STAGING_PREFIX)/bin/aclocal-1.9" or 1.4 |
| 16:51.06 | jomaster | yes |
| 16:51.11 | jomaster | as i said |
| 16:51.28 | eno | only for the 3 packages, we need automake1x-host-stage |
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| 18:39.05 | jomaster | @eno: we should TARBALLS_DIR RESULT_TOP from crosstool-scripts and specify them in crosstool{-native}.mk |
| 18:39.58 | jomaster | and we should set TARBALLS_DIR to $(DL_DIR). i realy don't like "TARBALLS_DIR=$HOME/downloads" |
| 18:40.39 | jomaster | to my mind optware should be a system with all in optware-dir |
| 18:41.08 | jomaster | (of course not all tools, but donwloads,...) |
| 18:49.29 | jomaster | i also don't like that crosstool-native uses /opt/ of build-machine, but don't know a solution. |
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