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| 10:00.24 | MacGyverNL | When running make myhello-check, what does "myhello_svn-rHEAD-1_mipsel/opt/bin/myhello: is not stripped |
| 10:00.24 | MacGyverNL | " indicate? |
| 10:10.56 | MacGyverNL | Or rather, can I just use unstripped binaries at the moment? |
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| 15:52.33 | scant | what does this mean: NOTE: Task failed: Missing field for ipk generation: 'DISTRO_PR' |
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| 15:58.19 | mwester | It means someone broke the recipe or a bbclass file. |
| 15:58.40 | mwester | There has been some instability lately... :( |
| 15:58.41 | scant | I re-did my cross-env from scratch again, but now I'm getting this error during 'make slugosbe-image': NOTE: Task failed: Missing field for ipk generation: 'DISTRO_PR' when 'make slugosbe-image' gets to the step when building openssl-0.9.8g-r9, the full error message is here: http://pastebin.ca/1234766 |
| 15:59.05 | mwester | Sync up and keep trying until someone fixes it. :( |
| 15:59.36 | scant | mwester: sync up, do you mean keep on trying 'make update' && 'make slugosbe-image' |
| 15:59.49 | mwester | Yep |
| 15:59.59 | scant | mwester: thanks for the prompt reply |
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| 16:01.30 | scant | mwester: on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile#debian, where it says, make setup-host-debian NB: Root access required, does that mean give a regular user root access through /etc/sudoers? OR does it mean, give a regular user access to run apt-get? |
| 16:02.39 | mwester | It means that it may need to do certain operations as super user. |
| 16:02.48 | scant | not only apt-get? |
| 16:03.09 | mwester | AFAIK just apt-get. But I don't use debian, so I don't know for sure. |
| 16:03.27 | mwester | Just never run the makefile as super-user. |
| 16:03.33 | scant | the thing I guess I don't understand, because I'm not a pro, is that, why not just run as root rather than give a regular user root abilities through /etc/sudoers |
| 16:03.40 | mwester | Bad bad bad |
| 16:04.11 | scant | i'm not saying run make slugosbe-image as root, just make setup-host-debian |
| 16:04.17 | mwester | Example: I write a new .bb file, and I miss something in the configure rule -- so a reference to /usr/lib/libc.so slips through... |
| 16:05.02 | mwester | ...because you are compiing as root, when that recipe gets staged, root happily overwrites your /usr/lib/libc.so on your host with an ARM binary -- your system crashes, and it's unlikely you'll figure out what went wrong. |
| 16:05.14 | mwester | As for the setup-host-debian, just bad practice. |
| 16:05.25 | mwester | The sudo commands are already in there, IIRC. |
| 16:05.43 | scant | mwester: I'm missing an important part of this |
| 16:05.48 | mwester | What? |
| 16:06.24 | scant | mwester: do I give a regular root access through /etc/sudoers? if yes, I can figure it out, the way I got it to run yesterday as a regular user was just to give a regular user access to run apt-get through /etc/sudoers |
| 16:07.03 | mwester | Yes, sudoers. |
| 16:07.04 | scant | mwester: if I put nothing in /etc/sudoers regarding my regular user, make setup-host-debian fails |
| 16:07.16 | mwester | Perhaps the wiki page needs to be updated to make that clarification. |
| 16:08.32 | mwester | Hmm... it certainly wins an award for brevity on that point, now that I look closely at the wiki page. |
| 16:09.55 | mwester | feel free to update that paragraph any way you feel necessary to correct it -- "NB: Root access required" is probably not sufficient! |
| 16:10.02 | scant | mwester: i dunno, sorry if my questions are basic, i figured out how to give a regular user access to run apt-get to get by that step, but i kind of thought that was unnecessary because rwhitby said, as you said, sudo commands are already in there, and that i could just create any user, and just run 'make setup-host-debian' and it would ask me for my root password, but I think the way it is, is that it won't do that unless i specify |
| 16:10.02 | scant | /etc/sudoers that they can be 'sudoized' |
| 16:10.33 | scant | they being a regular user |
| 16:10.49 | scant | am i making sense? |
| 16:10.54 | mwester | I'm not following... |
| 16:11.03 | mwester | It has the sudo command embedded in the make file |
| 16:11.23 | mwester | So it requires an entry for the user int he /etc/sudoers file, right? |
| 16:11.32 | scant | that's what i'm asking, yes |
| 16:12.06 | mwester | But I can't find anywhere on the page where it points out that you need sudo installed, and that the current user needs to be in the sudoers file for either all root access, or for apt-get access. |
| 16:12.13 | mwester | That seems to be the vital missing part. |
| 16:13.17 | scant | mwester: remember, i'm a beginner, so I don't know... this is just how I got it to work, and how I understand it to work, a regular user can't just do sudo 'my application' it has to be specificed in /etc/sudoers |
| 16:13.24 | mwester | Yep. |
| 16:13.39 | mwester | So that needs to be added to the wiki as a prerequisite. |
| 16:14.15 | scant | mwester: if http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile is for a beginner, like me, yes some vital parts are missing, even if these parts are to suggest to the reader to google what to do |
| 16:15.45 | scant | mwester: i gave a regular user access to apt-get on my distro that's derived from debian, but, since everything was up to date, apt-get didn't do much, and so, it's possible, that's not enough |
| 16:15.48 | mwester | Well, since I needed to open the Makefile to see what it did, I suspect the wiki is inadequate for any user. |
| 16:16.20 | mwester | If everything is already installed, then you're fine -- that's all that's required. |
| 16:16.58 | scant | mwester: yes, however, I'm wondering, if everything wasn't up to date, if make setup-host-debian would have failed, because it would have run other things that I haven't sudoized |
| 16:17.02 | mwester | You'll note for the other distros (like Fedora) there is no pre-defined makefile target, those users have to find their distro's packages and install them manually. |
| 16:17.13 | scant | eeek |
| 16:17.35 | mwester | No, I reviewed the makefile, it only does apt-get on debian. Presumably it runs the equivalent for other distro's setup commands. |
| 16:19.17 | scant | mwester: if you remember, i set up my cross env w/o sudoizing any user and w/o running as root from scratch by running these commands, this was before I realized 'make-setup-host-debian' sort of did some of this already: wget --cache=off http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile; apt-get install build-essential bison flex help2man diffstat texinfo cvs git-core; make setup; make slugosbe-image |
| 16:20.04 | scant | and it worked fine, but not everything was up-to-date which could of caused problems later on, but make slugosbe-image completeted sucessfully |
| 16:21.05 | scant | mwester: thanks for your advice |
| 16:22.20 | scant | this is what I put in my /etc/sudoers, I'm unsure if this is as secure as it could be, meaning, if there is a better way to do it, that will lock things down more, but still allow apt-get to run and do what it's supposed to do |
| 16:22.22 | scant | #NSLU2 |
| 16:22.22 | scant | user mythtv = /usr/bin/apt-get |
| 16:22.53 | scant | my cross-env is on my mythtv box |
| 16:22.56 | scant | as you can see |
| 16:23.00 | mwester | :( Sorry, I'm on one of the distros that has to be handled manually; I don't have the sudoers stuff set up. |
| 16:23.19 | scant | mwester: oh no, i'm sorry, i wasking asking for advice, i was showing you what I did... =) |
| 16:23.56 | scant | you're on Fedora? or another unnamed distro? |
| 16:24.44 | mwester | Ah, ok. If you ran it as root in the first place, then it installed what it needed. If your system is still running, then the build of slugosbe-image didn't overwrite any of your system files, which is a good thing -- so you are probably ok on that front as well. However, I would do a "find" on the system to look for any files or direcotories |
| 16:25.12 | mwester | with "*ipk*" in their name, anywhere outside of the slugos build tree. |
| 16:25.29 | mwester | You might find that ipkg created a directory in /lib or /usr/lib ... |
| 16:25.36 | mwester | (I'm on Fedora 9) |
| 16:26.28 | scant | oh |
| 16:26.30 | scant | hmmm |
| 16:30.42 | scant | thanks for the advice, i'm finding now... |
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| 16:31.57 | scant | mwester: but i still won't be able to get anywhere with that broken openssl bb file |
| 16:32.29 | mwester | Right. Neither can anyone else. |
| 16:33.38 | scant | yeah, i hope it doesn't take a long time to fix... =) |
| 16:34.07 | mwester | Feel free to open a ticket for OE with the log file -- that might get the attention of whomever broke it ;) |
| 16:34.44 | scant | oh me? little ol me? i dunno.... |
| 16:34.45 | scant | =) |
| 16:35.24 | Reedy | scant, its always fun bugging developers :P |
| 16:35.43 | scant | mwester: I no longer have the log files...d'oh... just the console output that i put on pastebin.ca and referenced when i first entered the channel |
| 16:42.34 | scant | i can open a ticket, but i need some help with the options: is the Component org.openembedded.dev; Severity: blocker; Platform: Arm; OS: Other; Priority: P5; Initial State: New? |
| 16:43.20 | mwester | dunno I'm afraid :( |
| 16:43.32 | mwester | Take your best guess is all I can suggest. |
| 16:44.11 | scant | mwester: I thought you would know... |
| 16:46.44 | scant | I'm choosing some best guesses using information from the help and the previous tickets I opened |
| 16:50.40 | scant | http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4766 hope it's informative... eek |
| 16:51.41 | scant | mwester: I'm safe, no ipk files in the wrong places... cheers and thanks =) |
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