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| 02:01.04 | VoodooZ | Is it possible the slugosbe 4.7beta kernel is oversized? reflash says it is... Unless there were major changes since last year? still under 1meg? |
| 02:18.57 | rwhitby | VoodooZ: slugos requires apex now |
| 02:19.54 | rwhitby | the combination of apex and an oversided kernel which extends into the otherwise unused ramdisk block still leaves exactly the same amount of jffs2 space as there was before. |
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| 04:51.28 | VoodooZ | rwhitby: nice. I've been using apex for at least 2 years now.. unless I have to flash using apex? |
| 04:51.58 | VoodooZ | Last time I flashed apex itself it was because of a change with FIS I believe.. anything else since? |
| 04:52.34 | VoodooZ | I tried to read up but the newsgroup was very quiet... I'm excited to try glibc 2.5 too.. |
| 04:54.24 | VoodooZ | wow. lots of new apex stuff too. I guess I'll start with flashing the latest apex.. Unless there's a working apex package already? |
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| 05:10.44 | rwhitby | VoodooZ: the latest 8MB flash image has redboot as primary bootloader and apex as secondary bootloader. |
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| 13:40.00 | VoodooZ | rwhitby: does that mean both booloaders are part of the image? Sorry. I'm a bit lost.. |
| 13:41.26 | VoodooZ | first question: Is it safe to use the apex package? After that is done I'll have to figure out how to flash the new load and "enable it".. |
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| 13:47.46 | rwhitby | VoodooZ: redboot is part of the image, but is never flashed (we assume you've still got it there). |
| 13:47.46 | rwhitby | apex is part of the image, and is flashed where the kernel used to be. |
| 13:47.46 | rwhitby | the kernel is then flashed in the next block after apex (apex is a single block), and apex allows the kernel to extend into the block where the ramdisk used to start (which is otherwise unused when you're using a jffs2 rootfs) |
| 13:47.46 | rwhitby | the jffs2 partition starts in the same spot whether or not you have apex in there. |
| 13:47.47 | rwhitby | (unless your kernel increases in size by 128Kb) |
| 13:47.49 | rwhitby | Apex as a second stage loader is perfectly safe, cause you've still got the RedBoot hardware reset button upgrade mode in place before apex starts. |
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| 15:04.56 | VoodooZ | rwhitby: ok. I see. I guess I'd still be considered "Special" as I replaced redboot with Apex a long time ago.. so I probably want to point apex directly to the kernel to bypass this whole secondary apex thing? |
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| 19:31.07 | PriceChild | Hey there, wondering if there's a release date/target for the new debian firmware? |
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| 20:25.34 | rwhitby | PriceChild: best place to ask would be in the Debian channels on OFTC |
| 20:25.55 | rwhitby | (nslu2-linux doesn't need to release Debian images separately any more - it's done by Debian directly as part of the normal process |
| 20:28.38 | PriceChild | Thanks very much rwhitby. |
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| 23:22.02 | VoodooZ | rwhitby: ok. apex 1.5.13 built and flashed... |
| 23:22.37 | VoodooZ | Now, to install the new image I wonder if I should just bypass reflash and do it from apex... |
| 23:23.08 | rwhitby | .13? wow - I need to update |
| 23:23.23 | rwhitby | I'm on 1.5.8 |
| 23:23.36 | VoodooZ | yeah, i noticed the one you guys use as a bb package is not even listed on his page.. |
| 23:23.51 | VoodooZ | 1.5.13 adds EABI or something like that.. |
| 23:24.15 | VoodooZ | actually, it's AEABI and "IXP42x using inline initialization" |
| 23:24.23 | VoodooZ | means anything to you? |
| 23:25.16 | rwhitby | yeah, that means he's included some patches :-) |
| 23:25.54 | VoodooZ | root@SRX2:~$ reflash -i slugosbe-4.7-beta-nslu2.bin |
| 23:25.55 | VoodooZ | reflash: slugosbe-4.7-beta-nslu2.bin: bad Kernel size (1435444, max 1048576) |
| 23:26.11 | VoodooZ | Does it mean my reflash is too old or? |
| 23:32.01 | rwhitby | reflash can't handle the big kernel |
| 23:33.29 | VoodooZ | not even the latest version? |
| 23:33.57 | VoodooZ | what's my options? fis write? apex? |
| 23:40.43 | VoodooZ | ok, so if I remember right, one can simply dd stuff directly to /dev/mtd*? but do I use /dev/mtdblockx or /dev/mtdx? |
| 23:42.28 | CIA-8 | 03slug 07slugos-3.10-beta * r420 10slugos/openembedded/packages/vsftpd/vsftpd_2.0.3.bb: vsftpd: Added missing -lcap |
| 23:42.40 | rwhitby | osas: that's the fix |
| 23:43.10 | osas | k |
| 23:46.36 | VoodooZ | it appears that 'cat zImage-nslu2be.bin > /dev/mtdblock2' doesn't work either.. (cat: Write Error: No space left on device) :( |
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| 23:51.23 | rwhitby | VoodooZ: you need to slugimage it to get the fis directory correct |
| 23:51.47 | rwhitby | or edit your fis directory manually using hexedit :-) |
| 23:53.30 | VoodooZ | I'm game... but I thought I already did something like that last time (year ago)?? |
| 23:53.54 | VoodooZ | root@SRX2:~$ cat /proc/mtd |
| 23:53.54 | VoodooZ | dev: size erasesize name |
| 23:53.54 | VoodooZ | mtd0: 00040000 00020000 "RedBoot" |
| 23:53.54 | VoodooZ | mtd1: 00020000 00020000 "SysConf" |
| 23:53.54 | VoodooZ | mtd2: 00100000 00020000 "Kernel" |
| 23:53.56 | VoodooZ | mtd3: 00020000 00020000 "Ramdisk" |
| 23:53.59 | VoodooZ | mtd4: 00660000 00020000 "Flashdisk" |
| 23:54.01 | VoodooZ | mtd5: 00020000 00020000 "FIS directory" |
| 23:54.36 | VoodooZ | In my case I wouldn't use the secondary apex and would boot directly to the kernel |
| 23:55.11 | VoodooZ | mwester: could probably do that but then I wouldn't be learning anything.. |
| 23:55.23 | mwester | Ah, ok - didn't know you already had apex installed. |
| 23:55.40 | VoodooZ | Plus, I've always been a "special" user and need as little boot overhead.. |
| 23:55.48 | VoodooZ | yep. |
| 23:56.03 | VoodooZ | it's a for a robot so need the quickest boot possible.. |
| 23:56.23 | VoodooZ | I wonder if there's been any improvement regarding that since last year... |
| 23:56.38 | mwester | It's gotten slower, if that's what you mean. |
| 23:56.44 | VoodooZ | darn. |
| 23:57.09 | VoodooZ | I'll have to clean it up in my build, again... |
| 23:57.24 | mwester | There's a lot you can probably strip out. the volatiles stuff, the delay for dhcp, etc. |
| 23:58.18 | VoodooZ | yeah.. I meant in terms of initscripts optimizations (ala initrd-ng or upstart) |