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21:08.12xkr47hello :)
21:09.08xkr47I got a "crazy" idea that I could build an mp3 alarm clock using nslu2 or similar hardware
21:09.30NAiLnot so crazy idea that
21:09.40xkr47well, maybe to outsiders :)
21:09.48xkr47I already saw projects of how to add led displays and saw there was something about audio also
21:10.06xkr47the possibility to get more usb ports and serial out of the thing was also very nice
21:10.14NAiLyup
21:10.30xkr47:)
21:10.50xkr47I was thinking of what would be the best display to read during the night
21:11.15NAiLa VFD once
21:11.18NAiLs/once/one/
21:11.19xkr47one possibility would be some display with 5x7 dot matrix leds for example
21:11.37xkr47hmm ok :)
21:11.37NAiLah, well, yes. That's a possibility too... But an LCD-display is easier ;)
21:11.49xkr47yes, but they are usually quite small
21:12.05xkr47dunno how big would be good otoh :)
21:12.31xkr47ofc I could get a graphical lcd display that's bigger but it seems a bit overkill maybe
21:12.50NAiLa 5x7 led matrix is probably well-suited as a night-light ;)
21:12.59xkr47hehe..
21:13.21xkr47saw maxim had some chips that control 4 5x7 displays with one chip over i2c
21:13.28xkr47and I recall seeing nslu2 has i2c
21:13.32NAiLyup
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21:39.12NAiLhaven't had one wear out on me yet
21:39.25xkr47I assume you have one ?-)
21:39.30NAiLa few
21:39.42xkr47cool, any pics & text ?
21:40.08NAiLlemme see if I can find any of the pictures
21:40.39xkr47if you know any good places where to buy, I'd be glad to hear alos
21:40.47xkr47s/los/lso/
21:41.02NAiLhmm
21:41.03NAiLwell
21:41.09NAiLthere's a few possible places
21:41.44xkr47I found some for 60-70e
21:42.23xkr47this looks nice http://www.matrixorbital.com/pimg/500/VK162-12.jpg
21:43.22NAiLyeah
21:49.42xkr47you found any pics ? :)
21:50.04NAiLno, but I know where they are
21:50.12NAiLthey're in a backup on a remote machine
21:50.32NAiLbasically, they're pics of a slug with the side cut out, and a 4x20 lcd-display
21:50.43NAiLand a DS101 with a 2x16 display
21:50.50xkr47ok
21:51.30xkr47do you have any suggestions whether the nslu2 would be good or whether some other version would suit a "alarm clock-with-mp3-player" project
21:51.48NAiLthe nslu2 would be god
21:51.49NAiLgood
21:51.52xkr47is the nslu2 cpu able to play mp3s and oggs..
21:51.56NAiLmp3s, sure
21:51.56xkr47god also :)
21:52.03NAiLdunno about ogg, but probably ;)
21:52.15NAiLusing the integer player whose name escapes my mind ;)
21:52.36xkr47You live in scandinavia too ? :)
21:52.51xkr47it seems to have escaped mine too
21:53.07NAiLyes, Norway
21:53.17xkr47nice, finland here
21:53.29NAiLI saw that ;)
21:53.42xkr47I could speak swedish to you, but I would maybe have a hard time understanding you depending on your dialect
21:54.18NAiLhaha, depends
21:54.23xkr47(sorry for assuming builtin swedish babelfish, but most people from norway seems to understand well)
21:54.23NAiLanyway, english is good
21:54.34NAiLSwedish is easy
21:54.46NAiLFinnish is incomprehensible
21:54.53xkr47I know both :)
21:55.21xkr47anyway.. do you suggest that floating-point mp3 is not feasible ?
21:55.43xkr47(when you were referring to the integer vorbis player)
21:56.04NAiLno, I think mp3s play fine
21:56.08NAiLtremor, btw.
21:56.12xkr47right
21:57.03NAiLI'm pretty sure there's integer decoders for mp3 available
21:57.11NAiLbut mp3 doesn't require as much cpu as ogg
21:57.21NAiLI assume your slug runs at 266MHz?
21:57.42xkr47my slug is still in the shop, located 8 km from here ;)
21:57.50xkr47but not for long :)
21:58.19NAiLaah
21:58.25xkr47the only thing I'm afraid of is this project will affect work performance
21:58.45xkr47I was coming here to ask suggestions on hardware and so on before deciding
21:59.09xkr47as there seems to be many other hardware platforms supported too
21:59.39xkr47I guess nslu2 is one of the smaller ones
21:59.50NAiLand it's silent
22:00.01NAiLwhich is a good thing if you're going to sleep in the same room as it
22:00.08xkr47yeah.. I just got a 2G usb flash stick for my 30th birthday :)
22:00.32xkr47NAiL, and I prefer to be without the wlan raditation when I sleep too :)
22:00.42NAiLhehe
22:01.47xkr47yeah.. I recently moved into my first own apartment and haven't seen all the possibilities yet :)
22:02.02xkr4747 square metres of "unmapped" gadget space
22:02.22hillctfirst, buy a 42U rack
22:02.25xkr47the nslu2 seems to cost 690 NOK here
22:02.32xkr47lool..
22:04.06xkr47amazon suggests the list price for nslu2 is USD 190 :-D
22:04.18xkr47so I'm "saving" $103 by buying from them
22:04.23NAiLhaha
22:05.12xkr47or maybe that's a stupid idea :P
22:05.40NAiLhttp://www.buy.com/prod/linksys-nslu2-network-storage-link-for-usb-2-0-disk-drives/q/loc/101/10361254.html
22:06.09xkr47free shipping, cool
22:06.16xkr47but is that inside US only.. :P
22:06.37NAiLhehe, not surprisingly
22:07.00xkr47hmm I don't know, I was just suspicious
22:08.29xkr47hehe wonder if buy.com's 12 month replacement plan for $7.99 covers accidental bricking ;)
22:09.53NAiLunlikely ;)
22:10.03xkr47heh now buy.com wants me to get a buy.com visa card without annual fees and $30 extra rebate on the nslu2
22:10.35xkr47where's the fine print.. :P
22:17.15xkr47sorry if I offended anyone by mentioning that project.. :|
22:17.30NAiLah, not at all
22:17.55NAiLopenwrt isn't really that suitable though, being made for routers and such
22:18.53xkr47well having 3 years and thousands of users surely sounds better than "jffs2 image got a bit further, but complained /dev/null was missing"
22:19.11NAiLheh
22:19.23NAiLindeed
22:20.05NAiLfeel free to climb high ;)
22:20.16xkr47I'll make my donation in yens ;-)
22:20.36xkr47foonas ?
22:20.46NAiLyeah, foonas is my nas-centric distro
22:21.21NAiLworking together with the linkstation community, to get aa distribution with a webinterface
22:21.25xkr47smaller / more suitable app portfolio / somethign else ?
22:21.37NAiL(modular webinterface, of course)
22:21.47xkr47"working together" == "I'm working together" ?
22:21.55NAiLyes
22:22.11xkr47perl is modular!!
22:22.15NAiLthere's basically two developers. Me and timtimred from linkstationwiki ;)
22:22.22NAiLperl is too large ;)
22:23.18xkr47luckily I have a 2G memory stick!
22:23.21NAiLyeah
22:23.25xkr47or do you mean the ram is not enough ?
22:23.49NAiLno, it just takes too much space to be in flash
22:24.10xkr47my first computer had 1M
22:24.10NAiLfeels like enough in most cases ;)
22:24.37xkr47I have 3 gigs in my linux workstation-server ;-)
22:24.42NAiLnice
22:24.54xkr47so.. I have a hard time imagining 1/100 of that
22:26.16xkr47are there any other options to brick a nslu2 except the eraseall tool ?
22:26.49xkr47is there some backup rom that can receive a flash image in case the flash is bust ?
22:27.05NAiLas long as you don't touch the bootloader, you're fine
22:27.12NAiLeraseall is a *bad* idea
22:27.22xkr47yeah the front page is clear on that
22:27.33xkr47is there any need to upgrade the bootloader at all ?
22:27.36NAiLno
22:28.15xkr47great! so I don't have to worry about bricking the nslu2 then
22:28.36xkr47I'm always afraid of flashing devices
22:31.02NAiLyeah
22:31.12NAiLI've bricked a couple of devices permanently
22:31.13NAiLsucks
22:31.22xkr47nslu2? :P
22:31.30xkr47what devices..
22:33.15NAiLSynology DS-101
22:33.23NAiLand QNAP TS-101
22:33.38xkr47the ds-101 was slu(n)g-compatible, right ?
22:34.11NAiLmostly, yes
22:34.14NAiLsame cpu
22:34.48xkr47some motherboards have some failsafe rom that can't be flashed and that only supports flashing
22:35.07xkr47some dip-switch on the mobo switches between the flash and the rom
22:38.32xkr47hmm you had some vfd links ?
22:51.47xkr47I've been keeping an eye on openmoko too and a friend was suggesting to make an alarm clock from that instead
22:52.21xkr47but I thought it would be less cool and also would require me to remember to remove the phone from the backpack or risk not waking up in the morning :)
22:55.51xkr47loool.. http://www.crazypc.com/images/cases/caseaccessories/lcd/mx422full.jpg
23:05.02NAiLhaha
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23:05.50NAiLI've lost all my lcd links
23:05.57NAiLrecently had my laptop hdd die on me
23:05.58xkr47:D
23:06.01xkr47:(
23:10.32NAiLI've mostly got displays from sparkfun
23:11.09NAiLif you do small electronic hacking stuff, sparkfun is great ;)
23:16.15xkr47in gimp.. :)
23:16.37NAiLhaha
23:19.56xkr47hmm..
23:20.36xkr47http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/tmp/MOP-AV162A-BNNN-with-a-doublesize-9.jpg
23:21.38xkr47oops
23:22.05NAiLnot too pretty
23:22.13xkr47seems the 8th pixel line is a underline
23:22.21xkr47can't say for sure but..
23:23.31xkr47funnily enough, I seem to have one pdf from sparkfun open atm :)
23:25.18NAiLthey've got a *lot* of nifty stuff
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23:49.50xl0rwhitby-airport: Ping-ping. Have time for a small chat?
23:52.04rwhitby-airportsure, I have 1.5 hours to kill before the plane leaves
23:52.31xkr47NAiL, hehe http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=569#
23:53.06xkr47rwhitby-airport, thank you for mentioning the nslu2 project to me some 4 months ago :)
23:53.45rwhitby-airportxkr47: np
23:54.03NAiLxkr47: seen them. Neat. I think I have a couple of phones I can dig those out of though ;)
23:54.18xkr47:)
23:55.15xl0rwhitby-airport: I was wondering, what is the Christian's npe/ethernet driver state? Has Christian abandoned it, for it was more than three months since I've seen the last message from him on the linux-arm-kernel list, and I could not reach him with email within a week.
23:55.51rwhitbyxl0: dunno - I haven't needed to talk to him in that time - the driver itself seems to be working fine in slugos and debian.
23:55.52xl0Have you heard of him since january?

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